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Afrikaner group to hold talks for own state

By Sapa | Jul 23, 2014 | COMMENTS [ 230 ]

Members of an Afrikaner group who call themselves the Boer-Afrikaner Volksraad view forthcoming talks with the government as a step closer to their "right for self-determination for our own people in a peaceful way".

"The Boer Afrikaner people are distinctive people and we have been fighting for the past two centuries to gain our independence," Andries Breytenbach, chairman of the Boer-Afrikaner Volksraad, told reporters in Pretoria on Wednesday.

"We see the willingness of government to hold talks with us in a positive light."

The discussions that according to Breytenbach will include President Jacob Zuma, or his deputy Cyril Ramaphosa, or both, will be held before the end of August and will consist of the concept of territorial self-determination for what the organisation calls "Boer Afrikaner people".

This follows a recent court application by the Boere-Afrikanervolksraad to have their own state.

"In a letter received on 17 July from the State Attorney, the Volksraad was told that government chose to settle this issue through negotiations rather than litigation," he said.

Breytenbach, who could not give the exact number of members belonging to their organisation, said that a possible poll among Afrikaners who want their own state would form part of the talks with government.

"We want a country of our own where we are allowed to run our own affairs.

We were a self-governing nation before 1994 and then we lost our independence. We are a minority and have no influence in the political course South Africa is taking," he said.

"If we can attain our own territory we can be a stabilising factor for the whole southern Africa region."

COMMENTS [ 230 ]

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Mulani

Are they for real, they want another Orania, we cannot afford to have more than one Orania, if they are in Pretoria, where do they want their state to be, & which city will fall within their state?

Jul 23, 2014 1:10 | 2 replies

SOLUTIONS2

Orania is not a state on its own, it is a few private farms that merged and it is private property, that is all.

Jul 23, 2014 1:20 | 2 replies

Shredder

By the way, you are also from Orania ne?

Jul 23, 2014 1:41 | 2 replies

VENDALIOUS

Lol.Mr. Fancy pants why ni tshi levha sooh mara?......smh

Jul 23, 2014 1:42 | 0 replies

SOLUTIONS2

Nope Shredder, in beautiful Mpumalanga for me thanks.

Jul 23, 2014 2:14 | 0 replies

jen

Why is everyone against the Afrikaaners having their own state? Then at least you won't have to put up with them anymore, (remember you keep on telling them to go back to their European roots) and maybe one day, when we're all starving because the land 'reform' hasn't worked and there are no productive farmers in South Africa, maybe this new state run by the Afrikaaners will feed us all. Sounds like a good idea to me.

Jul 23, 2014 8:1 | 0 replies

Nhlekzin

The city of cape town they can take.

Jul 23, 2014 1:55 | 2 replies

ytieduniS

Nhlekzin - Where would the 1 million ECape refugees go?

Jul 23, 2014 2:8 | 0 replies

ytieduniS

Nhlekzin - Ciskei or Transkei maybe? :P

Jul 23, 2014 2:37 | 0 replies

MommaC

Please give it to them! Put a heavy fence around it and a big lock on the gate and let them go away!

Jul 23, 2014 1:10 | 2 replies
Jul 23, 2014 1:19 | 0 replies

hashTagSunday

MommaC you wouldn't have to put a lock around it, I can assure you they would have no interest in coming into South Africa. On the contrary in a few years South Africans would be asking them for food since it will be the only functioning agricultural region in Southern Africa

Jul 23, 2014 2:56 | 0 replies

Pitso.MCCMA.SAFA

Zuma and Ramaphosa accepted the meeting to negotiate the bringing back of aparheid.

Jul 23, 2014 1:10 | 2 replies

SOLUTIONS2

lol, if they get their own state, just don't go there. easy as that.

Jul 23, 2014 1:21 | 0 replies

ytieduniS

Pitso.MCCMA.SAFA - Meanwhile, 1/3 of KZN is a Zulu volkstaat.

Jul 23, 2014 1:59 | 0 replies

Babigall

Nawa amanye amahlamya

Jul 23, 2014 1:18 | 1 replies

Dandan

LMAO , you killed me kwaaa tliltiltilt hhihihihih

Jul 23, 2014 1:51 | 0 replies

Bhizarojairo

Take them to one of the mountainous rural area and they must have border gates and treat them the same way they treated us. Land Act of 1913 They were sane at the time, they are sane now.

Jul 23, 2014 1:20 | 0 replies

Shredder

The tail is wagging the dog. Orania, Kommandokorps, Suidlanders, B0er-Afrikaner Volksraad, EFF. I blame Zuma for all these. What does he mean "We were a self-governing nation before 1994"? Does he mean apartheid? SMH

Anyway, let me quote Malcolm X with my own modifications, "You’re going to have a racial explosion, and a racial explosion is more dangerous than an atomic explosion. It’s going to explode because black people [and white people] are dissatisfied; they’re dissatisfied not only with the [government], but they’re dissatisfied with these Negroes who have been sitting around here posing as leaders and spokesmen for black people and actually making the problem worse instead of making the problem better."

Jul 23, 2014 1:22 | 2 replies

ytieduniS

Shredder - 1/3 of KZN is a Zulu volkstaat.

Jul 23, 2014 2:0 | 0 replies

ytieduniS

Shredder - You didnt want to be under the apartheid government, and these dudes dont want to be under the ANC government. Not sure what is so difficult to understand.

Jul 23, 2014 2:4 | 1 replies

Shredder

We didn't want to be racially segregated.

Jul 23, 2014 2:13 | 1 replies

ytieduniS

Shredder - Of course not, but you still have your own volkstate and homelands.

Jul 23, 2014 2:16 | 1 replies

Shredder

This is my last response to you. We didn't want racial segregation. I don't have time for racism and apartheid defenders.

Jul 23, 2014 2:24 | 1 replies

ytieduniS

Shredder - Racism and apartheid defenders? Meanwhile, every single black tribe has its own volkstaat or homeland. If you also want to run away from a debate, then fine, pull a d-zel.

Jul 23, 2014 2:28 | 0 replies

maneater

let the govt give them 12 hectares of land and let they all go there they can take steve hofmeyer with them!

Jul 23, 2014 1:23 | 2 replies

Nhlekzin

They must take Piet Dlamini too weManeater.

Jul 23, 2014 2:10 | 1 replies

maneater

Nhlekzin i really feel for that Piet fellow! he is a fool but let us not throw him out into the wolves. we will force him to school, maybe Tony Yengeni school he will come right!!

Jul 23, 2014 3:33 | 0 replies

Sugarfree

Hahahahhahaaa!!!

Jul 23, 2014 3:32 | 0 replies

Jengele

Hahahahahahaha! the joke of the year, I so wish to be invited on those negotiations.

Jul 23, 2014 1:26 | 0 replies

VENDALIOUS

This Boere Afrkaner people never loved us

Jul 23, 2014 1:26 | 2 replies

ytieduniS

VENDALIOUS - Shame, if I had only known all you wanted was to be loved by the white man...

Jul 23, 2014 2:1 | 0 replies
Jul 23, 2014 2:13 | 0 replies

VENDALIOUS

How about relocating back to holland?

Jul 23, 2014 1:27 | 2 replies

Shredder

Simple as that. We can't afford to have more of mini countries like Lesotho and Swaziland in South Africa.

Jul 23, 2014 1:34 | 2 replies

VENDALIOUS

True we don't need this mini zimbabwe's.......Just wait for sinudirty to comment, but right know he is busy goggling for more racist insults

Jul 23, 2014 1:44 | 0 replies

MommaC

Ironically, during the Codessa talks, the ANC was all in favour of a 'volkstad' but the Nats wouldn't allow the idea to even be put on the table. I honestly think a lot of the racial problems we have had would have been avoided if they had just secluded the worst crazies away from the general population

Jul 23, 2014 2:8 | 0 replies

ytieduniS

VENDALIOUS - How about relocating back to Mozambique?

Jul 23, 2014 2:2 | 1 replies

VENDALIOUS

@tleast I am not confused with the race called Caucasians......Stupid colored!

Jul 23, 2014 2:40 | 1 replies

ytieduniS

VENDALIOUS - Stuuupid d@rkie.

Jul 23, 2014 3:7 | 0 replies

UMKHOKHA

Never, No Own State for this Boers!!! Let them stay here and feel how its like to be ruled by a Black man. Let them suffer until they are dry and then they can go back to Dutschland with the very same boat Jan Van Riebeeck came with!!!

Jul 23, 2014 1:27 | 3 replies

ytieduniS

UMKHOKHA - 1/3 of KZN is a Zulu homeland.

Jul 23, 2014 2:1 | 0 replies

ytieduniS

UMKHOKHA - Jan van Riebeeck was Dutch. Deutschland is Germany ret@rd :P

Jul 23, 2014 2:2 | 0 replies

hashTagSunday

@UMKHOKA don't be such a d1ck

Jul 23, 2014 2:57 | 0 replies