Mon May 20 23:51:07 SAST 2013

More court action for Sanral

Apr 30, 2012 | Alfred Moselakgomo and Sapa | 36 comments

AFTER an initial failed bid by the Congress of South African Trade Unions (Cosatu) to have the SA National Roads Agency Limited (Sanral) release all information about controversial e-tolls, members of the public could soon finally know who will benefit from the R20-billion project.

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Mon May 20 23:51:07 SAST 2013 ::
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Apr 30, 2012

maneater

ASANAMALI!!!!!!!!!!
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Apr 30, 2012

tpaz

THANK YOU THANK YOU
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Apr 30, 2012

RobinH

Live with it, Jimmy!
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Apr 30, 2012

Phunyukabemphethe

Viva Judge Prinsloo viva, power to the judges power and thank you to all the parties who took part
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Apr 30, 2012

Mrazane

Cosatu, OUTA, residents of Gauteng - a big THANK YOU to you all for standing your ground there is strength in unity!
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Apr 30, 2012

Mahungu

Thank you OUTA. sanral should just ask governmant to pay the debt.
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Apr 30, 2012

tumzangwana

In March this year Sanral chief executive Nazir Alli handed censored documents to Cosatu general secretary Zwelinzima Vavi during a discussion on e.tv.
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wena Nazir dont even think of pulling that stunt again baba, because Big Brother is watching....

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Apr 30, 2012

Tsope'

OUTA needs more money to delay the inevitable! Victory my foot!
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Apr 30, 2012

Tsope'

Do not mix the ANC government with SANRAL; The middle figure was shown to SANRAL (Private Public entity) and not the ANC. ANC-COSATU committee is/was looking at alternative way of paying SANRAL's bill.
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Apr 30, 2012

hulas

Tsope:....aag tsope we know anc is sanral.eskom is anc,telkom is anc,transnet is anc ,anc is metro rail,anc is saa,nyda is anc,the hawks is anc ,intelligence service is anc.
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We also know that Public protector is not the anc anc our courts is not the anc
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Apr 30, 2012

MorenaWaPolelo

I also want to be privy of what is in those document and also apart from tokyo I want to know who else is benefiting?
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Apr 30, 2012

MommaC

This is NOT a matter of state security so why the secrecy? It can only be because it is a repeat of the arms deal.
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Apr 30, 2012

Printa

Phantsi ngama Capitalists Phantsi!!!
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Apr 30, 2012

RobinH

MommaC: Exactly. And a very good morning to yoju and all the others.
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Apr 30, 2012

Tabza325is

Jimmy this is not a dream you need to wake up to it's a reality live with it....
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Apr 30, 2012

MommaC

Hey there Robin.

Was reading yesterday about the court case. Sanral couldn't (or wouldn't) give details of who was involved, what the actual costs were, what the logistics of collection were, how non-payment issues would be dealt with, why a public company had no published P+L sheets or anything. The whole thing smells like a Something Fishy dumpster during strike season
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Apr 30, 2012

RobinH

MommaC: And are we in the least surprised. The whole conduct of the Sanral officials in this has stank to high heaven from Day One of the disputes. "Dodgy" doesn't even come close to the way they tried to bulldoze and rush the thing through under the radar.
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Apr 30, 2012

KeRataBasadi

I'm not paying for this sh1t, I pity the e-toll cop that tries to force my hand on this, ha ke tatane nna, ke wa le mpja ha ke wa. F2ck ANC, SANRAL, ALLI, NDEBELE, MANYI AND SAFCEC, greedy madafakas!
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Apr 30, 2012

MorenaWaPolelo

@KeRataBasadi
Are you ever not Angry? You need to take it easy Sir
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Apr 30, 2012

MommaC

I am told that OUTA will be putting details on their web.site soon if anyone would like to contribute to their legal costs in this. They have said that any excess money will be donated to charity and we are all saving about R550 a month so a couple of Rands to them sounds like a good idea
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Apr 30, 2012

KeRataBasadi

@ MorenaWaPolelo

I'm Hulk.
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Apr 30, 2012

KeRataBasadi

@ MorenaWaPolelo

I'll stop being angry next elections, I helped put this Guptament in power.
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Apr 30, 2012

masepa

Thanks outa, but I hope Radebe will not want to replace the judge because the judgement is in the interest on the poor. I am poor.
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Apr 30, 2012

KeRataBasadi

@ MommaC

Cant get their banking details, keep us posted when they post them.
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Apr 30, 2012

MommaC

KeRataBasadi

I'll keep checking their siite and let you know when they are set up (I think they are doing one of those cell phone ones)
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Apr 30, 2012

MorenaWaPolelo

KeRataBasadi
@ MorenaWaPolelo

I'm Hulk.
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Tl tl tl tl tl Green is one the ANC's colour's Sir do not self distruct please!!
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Apr 30, 2012

HORATIO7

Bosso ke mang?

Bosso ke motho o jwetsang Government to stop e-tolling with immediate effect. Daai man ke Starring.

Give that judge a Bells

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Apr 30, 2012

KeRataBasadi

@ MorenaWaPolelo
KeRataBasadi
@ MorenaWaPolelo

I'm Hulk.
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Tl tl tl tl tl Green is one the ANC's colour's Sir do not self distruct please!!
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Did you know ? Knights of the medieval era were asked to "Protect the weak, defenseless, helpless, and fight for the general welfare of all." I guess this is why you call me SIR, neh ?

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Apr 30, 2012

Mosayana

"Mr. Big Head and Big Mouth Manyi!.......This is not a bad dream!
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Apr 30, 2012

Nzwere

hulas
Tsope:....aag tsope we know anc is sanral.eskom is anc,telkom is anc,transnet is anc ,anc is metro rail,anc is saa,nyda is anc,the hawks is anc ,intelligence service is anc.
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We also know that Public protector is not the anc anc our courts is not the anc
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Your point???
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Apr 30, 2012

shrink7

can sanral switch off those weird blue lights on the gantries, electricity usage is high, anyway it still us who is paying mos
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Apr 30, 2012

shrink7

can sanral switch off those weird blue lights on the gantries, electricity usage is high, anyway it still us who is paying mos, as for the cameras we need more picture clarity on SABC soccer laduma, they can use them there.
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Apr 30, 2012

HORATIO7

The GOVERNMENT has spent as much as the cost of 14 RDP houses on one day in court defending the e-tolling system.

According to The Star's calculations, between the SA National Roads Agency Ltd (Sanral), the Treasury and the Department of Transport, at least R750 000 was spent in one day in the Pretoria High Court.

It costs around R55 000 to build an RDP house.

Adding to the billions of rand taxpayers will land up paying, one way or another, for the upgrade of Gauteng’s freeways, will also come this multimillion-rand legal bill.

E-tolling is costing taxpayers multiple billions of rand. On top of the R20 billion road upgrade bill, there is the R2bn to build the toll system and – according to answers before parliament – Transport Minister S’bu Ndebele said that over the next two years, operating the tolls would cost R2.5bn, with a further R1bn for road maintenance.

Yesterday, Wayne Duvenage, chairman of the Opposition to Urban Tolling Alliance, revealed that the use of two senior counsel, four days in court and countless hours preparing for the court case to interdict e-tolling had cost the alliance R2m. While this was all the money the alliance had poured into the kitty for the legal case, it is probably small change compared to the massive legal response the government threw at them to try to keep e-tolling on track.


I guess its okay for the government to have money when they need it hey & its also okay for the guavament to over tax the citizens


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Apr 30, 2012

Riaann

Now how the hell are we suppose to smell that SCAMRAL wanted to pull a fast one on us as motorist. 4 years ago we never knew what it would cost us to be travelling on these o so expensive roads. Now SCAMRAL can come out and ask the question why it is that Outa is opposing the implimentation of the Scamtoll. Another question would be who is benefiting from this expensive projection? I can assure you that this project is clearly costing the poor more. Take into account companies have kept their annual increases at a minimal, if i say minimal i am talking about increases that match up to inflation. Our salaries can but only last us to get through the month as it is excluding Scamral fees. NO, NO, NO this aint working, get your acts together and go and feest of those who were the master minds behind this project.......
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Apr 30, 2012

DIPOPONASII

Ugly blind S'bu Ndebele said its a done deal,wena sbu ke tla o tshwara ka pele o sa boneng hantle.
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May 1, 2012

CB045

I hope the Big Brass who all agreed to go along with the eToll project receive 0% bonus for this waste of state monies. Why are our tax money used less for infrstructure and more for salaries? These guys have limited skills to be in government. They were in the resistance movement, so they should be deployed to the military... but no, we have a woman as the big cheese in the military, yet another waste of money for a person without fighting skills experience. Affirmative action? More like a buddy system!
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