The South African government today apologised to Nigeria for deporting Nigerian nationals accused of trying to enter the country with fake yellow fever certificates.
i give up. s.a gov. ke machwega fela a dibari. nxa! Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
RobinH
Say no more. Bunch of indecisive spineless wimps. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Candyboy
“We were the first to not allow Nigerians and it is proper that we apologise and we are not expecting the Nigerian government to apologise to us,” said Ebrahim.
what a po3s this GOVT is..............Our own GOVT has just humiliated us, the nation, in front of the whole world.....i'm sick at the thought we are run by spineless sheep....this should be a clear message to all SA People.....our GOVT is being raped by the 9ja's and they dont give a furk about you on the street.....Politics, Business and Greed is the order of the day.
There we have it...SA is the furken laughing stock of Africa....now it is official and for all to see
They are still a high risk country which is probably because your government thinks that hong fong vaccination certificates will protect you from the disease. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Shredder
@Mtho'eng'nanqondo - You are right about that one, pussies. They don't take out and apologize to us for the eToll. Agg sorry, eThievery. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
sh!tFaceSamsung
I don't feel sorry for those bastard nigerians : actually we hv to longe attack on them insteed they apologised: pathethic: pela our govrnment is useless when it comes to intanational matters Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
witklaps
exactly, the sa-gove are a bunch pu'ssy's
and a bunch bullies punching way above their IQ weight. nigeria -1 s/africa 0 Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
Not enough,disburse all their spent money and give them emotional abuse compensation on top. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
MORNACHIESS
Let's remove Zomeeer now gud people ! Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
RobinH
Samsung: Inane talk of attacking people is just so useless. Helps no-one. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Crown
What the F@%K! Sorry for what? For protecting our health? I thought that was the best thing to do in the first place. Report Abuse
mxm...this is bull - our government is so stupid, no wonder this foreigners think that they own our country Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
dimpho_4U
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
Not enough,disburse all their spent money and give them emotional abuse compensation on top.
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Kata Sir,u are being impossible...after being caught with "fake" yellow fever documents..we still have to apologise to them...now this license to do as you wish!!! Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Khulza
Shame on our spineless government. What price must we pay for the AU chairmanship. Do we have to go this lenght to appease these good-for-nothing ppl ?
Next time they will demand that all their drug peddling nationals must never be arrested in this country. Already they stand in street corners of our cities brazenly and openly selling drugs. Report Abuse
WTF, SA Gov buyyyyyyy skelem sis, nxa. Are they, those muder-fcuker going to apologise for what they also did to SAs, bliksems, idiot anc led gov... Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
witklaps
@sh!tFaceSamsung
i would feel sorry for you, all you want to do is fight them nigerians, but your government let them in, just like they let in the zimbabweans, dont blame nigerian brothers and sisters, blame the an'c Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@dimpho_4U
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
Not enough,disburse all their spent money and give them emotional abuse compensation on top.
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Kata Sir,u are being impossible...after being caught with "fake" yellow fever documents..we still have to apologise to them...now this license to do as you wish!!!
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Apology means acceptance that u wronged.
does this mean now Nigerians they can continue coming into the country without yellow slips???? Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Danger1985
@ MommaC looks like they removed the article it was degenerating into what we can call a fist fight. The SA gvt should make the playing ground equal and apologize to all African states that have heard their nationals denied entry into South Africa. They all so need to clarify to the South Africa nation whether these certificates were fake or not...At the end of the day as well let us not forget that SA is benefitting from "some" oil in Nigeria (some is manufactured by SASOL) and that is key to the relationship maybe that is why they have apologized...I feel that it was unnecessary and is evidence that the foreign affairs ministry needs to be revamped!!! Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Candyboy
@WordofGod
yeepii! let them come back....
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What interest do you have in them....fake pastors and fake god......futsek man.
@Khulza am with u, More are still coming to SA, imagine how many of this ppl are in their country, Nigerian gov. is unleashing the to come SA, Their gov. ministers, pastors operating in the name of god sell drugs as well. Shame SA gov, U all have no eggs. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
sh!tFaceSamsung
but out off all of these i blame tata Rolihlahla Mandela: is the main cos of these kwerekwere: come in & out as they please nxa! Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
100%Boer
Nci nci nci coward bastard SA government.
What were those Naijas coming to do here? Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Missynj
Indeed AU Chairmanship. We suffer because of AU chair. West Africans hates people of the South. Why do we have to beg or apologise for? Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@WordofGod
yeepii! let them come back....
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SAn need Jesus in their lives kapa jwang?
Our own Government betrayed us....so pissed...tlaa Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
DJWinner
Apologising for them to come here and feed us their drugs? Apologising for them to come here and make our sisters sex slaves? Apologising for them to come here and rob us with their scams? Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Danger1985
@ Fizas it means they can continue coming to SA with fake certificates Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
dimpho_4U
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@dimpho_4U
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
Not enough,disburse all their spent money and give them emotional abuse compensation on top.
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Kata Sir,u are being impossible...after being caught with "fake" yellow fever documents..we still have to apologise to them...now this license to do as you wish!!!
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Apology means acceptance that u wronged.
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who wronged who??? ...you travel with fake papers and my country has to apologise for your little"419 fong kong scams" ....that went wrong,,how slow Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
MommaC
Danger1985
It is just crazy that we could become a country with yellow fever because some snitsy little farrt in Lagos got his knickers in a twist because we didn't accept fake certificates, If the Nigerian government paid more attention to it's own health rules then they wouldn't even be on the list. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
NDA
They dont respect us but they are scared of makwerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
untinigerian
So this Nigerian official insults our President and our own government apologises? Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
candilious
@Jaja'sQueen- dO YOU HAV ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT YOUR BELOVED ANC NOW.
apologising for what Ebrahim o barry o mshishi aai we are being led by cowards here where is juju mara to tell the bastard to get out of our coutry with their illness nxaa Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
tumzangwana
this stupid f*cken gov. puts foreigners above its own citizens again? f*ck ...... Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@dimpho_4U
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@dimpho_4U
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
Not enough,disburse all their spent money and give them emotional abuse compensation on top.
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Kata Sir,u are being impossible...after being caught with "fake" yellow fever documents..we still have to apologise to them...now this license to do as you wish!!!
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Apology means acceptance that u wronged.
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who wronged who??? ...you travel with fake papers and my country has to apologise for your little"419 fong kong scams" ....that went wrong,,how slow
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Those who apologise,SAn wena Dimpho.
@candilious
@Jaja'sQueen- dO YOU HAV ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT YOUR BELOVED ANC NOW
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Nigeria and SA dear not A N C. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Uncompromising
China, Nigeria, Zim ?????? Who will be next to squeeze our scrotums? We gave Mswati money, for what? Lesotho's horse-riding-blanket-wearing army whipped us with our big machines years back. Whats going on with SA maar? F*ck E-tolling and Labour brokers, i say we carry arms and defend ourselves properly. This sh*t is not going to fly on my watch, really now. This is embarrassing! Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@tumzangwana
this stupid f*cken gov. puts foreigners above its own citizens again? f*ck ......
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Tumi tlohela ho rohaka bana bao beso wena maan. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
RobinH
It's okay. Don't worry folks. Tomorrow they'll backflip again and deny it all. We've seen the way things work. It wasn't us. Not what we meant. Irresponsible journalists misquoted us. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Candyboy
Let us not rest and leave this matter unresolved.....the anc led govt will pay for this sh!t......e-tolls will be blown apart and the deportation of 9ja's will be taken off on the street......futsek to anc-led GOVT......! Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
FANK
Yerr our government is Fucked.... change is needed why apology Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
patyaba1
The South African government today apologised to Nigeria for deporting Nigerian nationals accused of trying to enter the country with fake yellow fever certificates. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
somaartakeit
who is paying for this? ordinary SAns have no access to basic health care and now we are providing healht care to the world, BS at its best!!!! SAn gov must protect our interests against ppl who come here as health tourists, everyone must know by now what such practice did to the UK national health, Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
witklaps
@tumzangwana
you did'nt really think you were important did you? because you not, the only time any south african becomes important is when its time for the nation to vote, vote like stuupids for the beloved anc Report Abuse
@patyaba1
The South African government today apologised to Nigeria for deporting Nigerian nationals accused of trying to enter the country with fake yellow fever certificates.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------And there's blerry well big chance that said certificates are fake we should be grateful to our border police cause they didn't something right for once in their lives, unfortunately the p#ssies in the gov are shyte scared to protect our rights and our tax, nxa Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
dimpho_4U
@KatakataEmaotoAditshepe,next time avoid making sentimental decisions and judgements when travelling to a foreigner country ...follow protocol and procedure.I dare you to travel with fake documents to Australia or China and say we are :" brothers and sisters" Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
witklaps
eveyone bitches and moans about the apology from the south african government, bitch and moan about etolls but you stuupid fickin idiotss keep voting anc, you deserve to suffer Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
DJWinner
Biggest mistake this government has ever made. We must organize a strike for this.... Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
BEULAH
Gosh whats wrong with this country!!!!! is the government really blind to the malady that these foreigners are causing???? must SA always be beggin? who's apologising for the whole nation of nagerians that is here ruinin our country? just west street kempton park alone its lagos!!!....really whats wrong with this government??!!??!! its quite clear we must be africa's playground ende makwerekwere a a bona are so blloody rude and ungrateful!! we are truly a laughing stock...........i've always voted ANC and bcoz i'll never vote another party i will never vote again to have such a weak government that cant take a stand nxah!!! #so tired of foreignerd and particularly nigerians!!! when i walk down the street, i even forget im christian and cant help swearing when they start sayin hello sisi...hello sisi my foot...why cant they go back to nigeria!!....oh by the way its because we have a stupid government!! Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
sh!tFaceSamsung
witklaps
@sh!tFaceSamsung
i would feel sorry for you, all you want to do is fight them nigerians, but your government let them in, just like they let in the zimbabweans, dont blame nigerian brothers and sisters, blame the an'c
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zimbabweens are far better than nigerians: they don't sell drugs, do child traffiking, money making scum : so zim's are much better Report Abuse
Even the Zimbos must go back and let Mr know it all lead the way ! Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Live1030
Stupid S.A government how do you apologise to someone who is trying to access your facility without proper documents??? mxm I give up Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
SKYBLACK
FOR EACH AND EVERY SOUTH AFRICAN SEND BACK THE COUNTRY SHOULD SEND 100 FOR EACH SA RESIDENTS. THIS NIGERIANS ARE MORE THAN US IN OUR OWN COUNTRY Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@dimpho_4U
@KatakataEmaotoAditshepe,next time avoid making sentimental decisions and judgements when travelling to a foreigner country ...follow protocol and procedure.I dare you to travel with fake documents to Australia or China and say we are :" brothers and sisters"
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Protocol and procedure have been followed by our fellow brothers and sisters o bua eng wena that's why SA passed the apology to Nigerian Gov.
and then wena mr know it all who told you that i vote for the anc huh? Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
RobinH
Mornachies: Please get it into your thick skull that I am a South African born and bred with a Zimbabwean partner. Hell, you're a slow learner. Even a sleeping sheep could do better. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
MommaC
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
Jirrie but you are a stirrer of note. Do you ever actually put your own beliefs down or do you just always try to find a way to be arbitrary? Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Malady
Now they'll come as if their parents are here,i'm nt surprised e.g.they take minister of transport to be minister of education they dnt care whthr tht person knows the job or wht,look at ths nigerians on the streets they pretend as if their selling but they drugs even police knws abt bcs they'r friends,whn they'r broke they collect money frm them,shame on SA banana republic & cowards sis Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
WordofGod
@nigerians
we are sorry. tumza, kea and myself are sorry. sorry neh! sorry! Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
sh!tFaceSamsung
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
am afraid why don't u relocate in nigeria once and for all : cos can c ur wifee is nigerian Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@MommaC
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
Jirrie but you are a stirrer of note. Do you ever actually put your own beliefs down or do you just always try to find a way to be arbitrary?
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E nngwe ya tsona!
The South African government has committed the biggest post-apartheid democratic blunder. LAst week we heard that some five Malawian soccer players were turned back because they didn't have same documentation and this hardly made news. The MAlawian govt never complained.
Now come the Nigerians who add absolutely no value to our economy and our government is made to apologize to a government that is struggling to bring any semblance of sanity in their own country. When will our govt realize that the mere reason that there are so many Nigerians here is simply because there is no effective government in that part of the world ? The people masquerading as leaders there are nothing but big time thieves no different to the drug-selling scum they export to our country.
Sani Abacha ruled for a mere 2 years but when he died he had stolen $USD 750 million. And still our govt think this is a country that deserve any respect. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
MommaC
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
??? sorry but I'll need a translator for that one Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
KeRataBasadi
Theres just no hole big enough for me to hide my embarrassment, its official, our government is privatised and hell of a p#ssy. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Wozanami
@nigerians
Frm: SA Govt
ofc we are very sorry, please don't stop selling us oil. -.- Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
KeRataBasadi
Theres just no hole big enough for me to hide my embarrassment, its official, our government is privatised and he11 of a p#ssy. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
witklaps
@MommaC
@tumzangwana
my opinion mommaC is some carry hiv, some carry yellow fever others carry drugs - so what, rather have a nigerian carrying yellow fever than a south african carrying a AK during his robbery,
and tumzangwana, it makes all the sense you vote anc, stop pretending you dont Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
tumzangwana
dimpho_4U
@katakata wena, o tlo tswele pele o bue o tla bona ho tla etsahalang
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mo jwetse wena dimpho. o bajtla iketsa beter koffie a ntse a bua potsa mo. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@tumzangwana
@kataka
wena nare ba go jisitse korobela na? le gale ke your brothers and sisters in the lord they sell drugs in neh?
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SAn is full of rapists,robbers,killers ,lot of arbotions and women k*ll infants may be that make it better than other Africans countries.
and wena tikiline how do you know that i vote for anc since you think you know everything? Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
mthosam
This is a very stup!d thing, Anyway, lets establish what brought them here. were those certificate real fakes,then if yes, we have all right to deport them. you stup!t SA stop going to this chaotic countries. if South Africa is soory, thye must tell us on what grounds, deporting is not a problem as long as we do a rigth thing. oh my Africa. SA is a B!TCH, COME ALL aFRICANS AND HAVE f*CK. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@MommaC
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
??? sorry but I'll need a translator for that one.
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May be one of the two.
exactly the point why we dont these pips to come and make the crime stats to shoot through the roof. we got enough ish to deal with ntate when it comes to crime, we dont need machwega to come and make things worse. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Uncompromising
I wish Malema can take this one up but he just wants mines and sh*t. We can`t all be as fat as Khulubuse Zuma, wena Malema setlatla ! Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@sh!tFaceSamsung
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
am afraid why don't u relocate in nigeria once and for all : cos can c ur wifee is nigerian.
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I'm a pure SAn who dont withstand sh!t and my wiife too.
Do you realise that this stupid minister is putting Nigeria at risk too?
They are currently an 'at risk' country but if they start allowing people to wonder in and out without a yellow fever certificate, they could easily become an 'active risk' country. A fake certificate doesn't protect you from a disease Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
SKIZOBANTWANA
There's no logic in this.. why apologise_when these people had used fake documents..? hhhh jeeer Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
WordofGod
@tumza
tlogela go stressa mann! bona o tswa metlhagare mo di lipsing....lol!! Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
MORNACHIESS
@RobinH,
Now u are singing a different tune ,the other day u said u are from that country .....
Entlik who are u trying to fool ? Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
Africans must unite not treating each others like sh!t we all brothers and sisters,there are no oceans dividing african countries. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
DJWinner
This government yas'jwayela yazi? Seis! what are they doing now? Can't they see the demage these people are causing to us? What are we begging from Nigerians? Drugs? Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
witklaps
@MommaC
yes but as you said earlier south africa is not in the yellow fever belt / or list of countries, therefore according to you south africans are safe and need not worry or be checked, so why all the fuss, its only nigerians dying in nigeria neh? Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
nondy
Dear Juju Baby
Where are you when we need you the most? please avail yoself and tell nigerian government wht you think of them. When you done with them, This Ibrahim Something guy and his crew to go hang themselves and force all Nigerian to go back home. pls pls pls pls plssssssssssssssssssssssssssss Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
dimpho_4U
he banna! kataka,re utlwile hee,we shall unite in rightfulness but fake I.d's,drugs,stealing, scamming and illegal immigrants we are divided.done Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
sh!tFaceSamsung
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
if you & your wifee r pure SA as u claim fine: r u awere that nigerian r muddle our beatiful country left,ryt,center : or unless off cos if do have some king of dirty business with them Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
tasty
Sorry for what, what were they coming for in the first place, there's more to be deported, come to Orange Grove Please there's a lot of them, just that we'll be left with our SA men with their small d**cks, eish, PROBLEM Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
rasefatee
is this guy wearing nappies who is his advisor nxaa what is he aoplogising for tell them to put their house in order finish Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Jaja'sQueen
Been busy with the schools drama, didn't see this one! Shi.t! Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
GoodiesPheladi
Aowa bathong. Something needs to be done. This is totally unacceptable. Mogwete wa Zuma maan!! Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
MommaC
witklaps
What kind of fuckedup logic is that?
Do you take some kind of perverse delight in the idea of people dying a painful death via liver failure? Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
witklaps
@KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
who are you kidding foool, yesterday it was them poor zimbabweans, today the poor nigerians and tomorrow when theirs is no one else out there, it could be you and gogo, ifp, wites or colouredss. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
candilious
@KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@candilious
@Jaja'sQueen- dO YOU HAV ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT YOUR BELOVED ANC NOW
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Nigeria and SA dear not A N C.
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KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
if you & your wifee r pure SA as u claim fine: r u awere that nigerian r muddle our beatiful country left,ryt,center : or unless off cos if do have some king of dirty business with them.
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Let us just accept that we have a USELESS govt in power. For too long we have been living in denial. Our ministers are just too happy to occupy the positions they occupy. As long as they can go to all these corrupt African countries and be treated like VIPs it is all good for them. As long as they are heaped with all hypocritical and self serving praise by other African countries for being "good leaders" of the African continent it is fine with them and to hell with us.They don't give a damn about us - the people who put them in power. They don't experience the daily real life challenges we go through, they live in leafy surbubs and are driven around with three bodyguards and insulated from all the daily despairs and hardships that ordinary SAns go through. They have come to take their own people for granted. All they do is aspire for lofty ideals of "leading" Africa at whatever expense of their "own"people.
No wonder these foreigners, especially the Zimbabweans and Nigerians, never stop to call us stupid even though we never run away into their countries in our millions. Our people are today unemployed because of them. They do crime in front of us and say to our face there is nothing our government can do about it. Some of them even have the cheek to demonstrate naked in our country about things that have nothing to do with us hurling abuse to the very same weak people we call our "leaders".
This very yesterday hundreds of thousands of South Africans marched across the country demanding the govt to listen to their grievances. So far no official response has been issued by the govt yet they are so quick to issue an unnecessary apology to a useless foreign govt.
Our govt must remember one thing. One day is one day. The sad thing is that this government is unwittingly stoking the fires of xenophobic attacks that happened a few years ago. And should this happen I doubt if they will be able to quell it. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
BEULAH
becoz we cant resort to xenophobic violence but we have the english vocab and electronic mail....cant we send an email to DIRCO and DHA to voice our dissatisfaction at the sky rocketing number of foreigners in our country especially becoz the foreigners we have are not looking at serving both our and their interest, its about them. forinstance instead of feeding a huge population with social grants, why not get rid of the pakistan, subsidise south africans in starting spaza shops and have them feed themselves! nigerians bona ga ke sa buwa let those things go back home and let their minister who dared calls us unfriendly n unafrican do something with them!!! SA should learn something from nigeria....they didnt hesitate to turn back our ppl bcoz of the incident but how many times has nigerians wronged this country and they are still flocking to it without even that apology SA was quick to send!!! let them their oil with Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@witklaps
@KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
who are you kidding foool, yesterday it was them poor zimbabweans, today the poor nigerians and tomorrow when theirs is no one else out there, it could be you and gogo, ifp, wites or colouredss.
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Se ke wa nnyela wena maan,who're u Mr Sir?
@ tasty....i will paint you with the same brush i painted serobapi!pi with earlier......FYI....
serobap!pi and 95% of the b!tches on this blog....add tasty to that list....are one of those woman who cant debate sh!t...all they think about is d!ck and BJ....no common sense or any form of comprehension.....trust me...this whole debate will now turn into whose d!ck is bigger and who wants to prove to serobap!pi (add tasty), they can fcuk her brain cells back to life.......*YAWN*
What your Minister did is what we call respecting elders!
You guys ranting here are like year-olds asking their weak dad to go and beat that big bully on the street for them. Nigeria is way too tough for SA and your minister and President know that.
Your overzealous immigration officers were about to drag your country into a huge mess that they may never recover from but I must commend the chabane guy. He must be wise or maybe our Presido sent some wise-up message to Zuma last night.
If a Nigerian does something bad in your country, make him pay for it but dont go victimizing law abiding Nigerians entering your country cos there are consequences for that. We are good at the tit for tat game. We did it to the britons and they changed, Ghana did some shi*t to us in the '50s and we hit them back so hard in the '80s.
Dont let Nigeria come at you cos we are the true giant of this continent!
SAn are bloody rubbish sometimes,mehofe ena. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
9jaboy
You guys should step your games up and stop the XENOPHOBIA on Nigeria....the country that supported you financially non stop during apartheid....the country that refused the European boycott and continuosly supplied oil to you during apartheid, the country that have doctors and other professionals saving your HIV stricken nation from more deaths....Mko Abiola and other Nigerian billionaires and Nigerian Government on a constant basis supported SA financially during apartheid, except for Ghadaffi of Libya...all other African nations deserted you during apartheid....DSTV, MTN are one of the many South African countries that are making more profits than Nigerian companies in Nigeria and more they can ever imagine of making in South Africa ....Nigeria is South Africa's number one market for private jet servicing companies..Forget the hooligans on your streets who call themselves Nigerians and who are still better than South African gangsters who rob their own.....take it or leave it....Nigeria is on the verge of becoming Africas largest economy....Africa's largest producer and exporter of oil...Africas largest exporter of intellects , professionals, entertainers, sports men, World's richest black (Aliko Dangote) and if you are still ignorant then ask your Gov to educate you bcos they know they tend to loose more afterall if Nigeria decides to start a HIV clearance at its airport, I wonder how many of the so called South African expatriates that troop into Nigeria on a daily basis that can actually come in without a fake clearance...your Government have apologized on your behalf ...so why don't you guys quit crying , get off the computer and face reality...Nigeria owns SA.. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Jaja'sQueen
@Candyboy
I am taking you home tonight whether you want to or not. I need to de-stress! You know what this means? Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
BHOMI
YAH neh our gov............... uyigwala. If this happened in Botswana , nigerian were not going react like this!!!!!!!!!! Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
witklaps
MommaC
well isnt that what you saying - fick nigerians as long as south africans are okay, you dont havea heart, and careless. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Msola321
so does this mean that they must come back with their fake cerfiticates....? Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
tumzangwana
@kataka
@witklaps
@KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
who are you kidding foool, yesterday it was them poor zimbabweans, today the poor nigerians and tomorrow when theirs is no one else out there, it could be you and gogo, ifp, wites or colouredss.
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Se ke wa nnyela wena maan,who're u Mr Sir?
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wa bona o, ke ene o ntse o ba lwanela gore they are nywe nywe our brothers nywe nywe and sisters, haaaaaaaaa, jaanong o go bitsa setlatla. wa bona, i told you so ke gore le wena ntate ga o mamele, bona fela........di tla go roga diphoofolo tse o di lwanelang tse. haaaaaaaaaaaa.
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
SAn are bloody rubbish sometimes,mehofe ena.
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wena tsamo batlana le mmolai wa Dike le yane ya rutileng mosotho ho ja transport ya hae, Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
MORNACHIESS
Let's just get rid of Zoomer finish and klaar ! Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
witklaps
@MommaC
tired of communicating with jackkasses today. now go find someone else foool. Report Abuse
who are you kidding foool, yesterday it was them poor zimbabweans, today the poor nigerians and tomorrow when theirs is no one else out there, it could be you and gogo, ifp, wites or colouredss.
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Se ke wa nnyela wena maan,who're u Mr Sir?
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mogalammakapan!!!! Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Ramatlhale
A bunch of incompetent, moronic, spineless, hypocritical, unfu.cken educated, unpatriotic, nigerian ass kissing, we're the bigger man/idiots/pussies, ashamed to call you my fellow countrymen cowards........Sies man!!!!
You make a move/statement, you stand by it regardless of who may say what.........not honourable but unfortunately in foreign relation issues respect is taken not earned & SA you just lost yours, why don't you just rename our capital city to the name of their choosing because they are definately running things....!!!! Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
little
@Ebrahim Ebrahim and your f*ken Gov
Le lahla Mello serious, le ya phapha en le lahla side bafana baka.
Where was I saying that?
Just because your people don't see the danger and are willing to put their entire country at risk doesn't mean that you have a right to put my country at risk. You need to stop looking at how much you would love to see us suffer and instead see that it will be your people who suffer the most. Geez, don't you have enough problems with maleria there? Now you want to add yellow fever too? Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
pierre2000
The price of having leaders who are wit-less, shame!!! Nijas are now laughing - why apologise to pipo with fake documents. If one can fake a vaccination certificate, how about a visa!!!!! Report Abuse
who are you kidding foool, yesterday it was them poor zimbabweans, today the poor nigerians and tomorrow when theirs is no one else out there, it could be you and gogo, ifp, wites or colouredss.
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Se ke wa nnyela wena maan,who're u Mr Sir?
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mogalammakapan!!!!
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Askies I'm sorry. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
pierre2000
Who knows, they were members of Boko Haram, they will start blowing up pipo like they do blow their own brothers and sisters Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Jaja'sQueen
Okay, I am fine now, have just consulted with my peeps. The reason for the apology was to appease the Nigerian government as the senators had asked the Federal Government to shut down all South African companies and for an immediate closure of the embassy. We have invested a lot in Nigeria. Lets all relax.
9jaboy
take it or leave it....Nigeria is on the verge of becoming Africas largest economy.
Nigeria owns SA..
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In your dreams..with so much corruption? your last line pains me Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@Nevdad
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
SAn are bloody rubbish sometimes,mehofe ena.
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wena tsamo batlana le mmolai wa Dike le yane ya rutileng mosotho ho ja transport ya hae,
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4tsek!
9jaboy
SA is better starve to death than to keep nigerian for that sake: we DON"T need nigerians that's all Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
witklaps
@MommaC
lol, just teasing love........ but its great to get a rise out of you, and for sure you nearly got me earlier when i started picking at you, i was'nt entirely what the fick yellow fever was, until i wikipedia'd it. Report Abuse
Truth be told Nigeria Africa's most populous nation ..so 1 in every African is Nigerian...there are a lot of criminals who are Nigerians...so are there a lot of genuine hard working people recognized all over the world who are Nigerians...if your SA Immigration is not properly trained then in the future they might cause a big problem for SA...you cannot turn back genuine and properly documented ppl back bcos of your xenophobia towards a nation of over 150million ppl...this is the second time SA Government is apologizing to Nigeria after the SA immigration almost turned back Nigeria's Nobel prize winner Wole Soyinka....The SA fear is based on inferiority complex and the accomplishing power of a Nigerian...If a Nigerian takes your girlfriend away from you well step your game up rather than take out your frustration behind the computer or place of work(airport) Nigeria's swagger is in built and God given...we run things and if u dint know before...now you know ...meanwhile i was in London last week and had 3 South African girls naked and playing with themselves for me...dancing to house and zuma zuma...they are so cheap and all they needed was alcohol lol... Nigerian women want a car , louis vutton bags and large tips(cash) cos Nigerian men spend and take care of their women ...but ive just realized SA women are a bargain....on a night i couldve spent 3000 British pounds..I ended up spending 300 pounds ...God Bless South Africa lmaoo Report Abuse
@sowetan even if you remove my comment i dont care, thats the truth, ftsek. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Jaja'sQueen
@Bizzabo
Diplomacy at its best, love this country! Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Msola321
@Jaja'sQueen
It doesn't matter Nigerians are depending on our companies otherwise their Economy will be crippled within few minutes. If they close down MTN there will no communication for large number of people and If they shut down STD Bank people's money will be frozen, give them enought rope they will hang themselves Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
pierre2000
@ Msola321
so does this mean that they must come back with their fake cerfiticates....?
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That is a gud question. I wish my sister WordofGod can answer. They are the ones who want them Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Bizzabo
MORNACHIESS
o sendile mapona? then ke tlo robala sharp mokgotse Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
MORNACHIESS
@tumza,
hahahahaha ke eng ka wena today mara ?
@Bizzabo,
Tlogela go bolela diphiri moo bloggong man ! Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
BEULAH
9JABOY...........there u go SA a classic example of how ungrateful these things are but not to worry 9jaboy wordofgod loves u.....y not go rob her of her tithe 9jaboy you bloody thieves!! cow!! Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Bizzabo
MORNACHIESS
o sendile map*ona? then ke tlo robala sharp mokgotse Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Msola321
@pierre2000
@ Msola321
so does this mean that they must come back with their fake cerfiticates....?
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That is a gud question. I wish my sister WordofGod can answer. They are the ones who want them
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@WordofGod
Answer me... Report Abuse
to hell with apologies. they bring drugs and sicknesses into our country, what is it they want from us, our young girls to smuggle drugs for them. our goverment appologises for protecting us. this Zuma's goverment is going down and i am supporting juju he must go(zuma) Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Jaja'sQueen
@Msola321
That's not how things work in Nigeria. Ssshhh! Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
MAARKENG-JANONG
@Katakata &Co.
Ke kgutlile ntjamme. Ba mpitsitse from vacation to come and fix things up
The reason why this toothless govt of our apologized is very simple. It's politics of "balance of power"i.e SA is vying for the chairmanship of some (I stand to be corrected) stupid post within the so-called Peace and Security within the AU. And for sure you know who our candidate is; Minister of Horror Affairs, showerhead's ex.
to me....if you apologise....then you admit to being in the wrong.....and its a sign of weakness....i am an individual who never apologise when i do something, especially if it’s for my benefit and for those who care.....I honestly dont give a sh!t of the investments ect. that we made to 9ja....what happened to integrity and protecting the citizens of this country.....that should be the first thing our GOVT had to consider....yellow fever is not child’s play......we followed protocol and GOVT should've stood by that....they are spineless and have no b@lls.....!
PS:......your pussie is in allot of sh!t tonight.......*finish & klaar*
I mean why the he.ll do we even toyi-toyi in this country? just start a 100% nigerian trade union and I promise you the govt will listen and while you are at it build them their own airport with their very special airline.
One day you have the Jimmy Manyi's telling us where each race should take up residence......and what no apologies. And then the same blo.ody nincompoop comes back to tell us that we should just get used to the e-tolling money making scam......what we say, how it affects us or our pockets it's none of their concern because we will actually be paying their share of the e-toll gates as well as ours but we have no say in the matter whatsoever..........I am sorry but I am just about about ready to start a mess...............!!!! Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
pierre2000
Is 'apoligising' to wrong-doers the basic principle of the current foreign policy? If they had been deported, whereas they had genuine cerificates i would understand. But fake certifcates? Ok as a gesture of gud will, all convicted nija drug dealers and thieves should be released. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Msola321
@WordofGod
only in one condition, with valid documents..... Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Yorubaman
I must say many comments strike me as coming from people who have never left their neighbourhoods.I don't mean this to be an insult at all but a matter or fact. Those who have know how dangerous this kind of hating can be."Go back to where you came from" rhetoric is hackneyed and often impotent.The particular ethnic group of Nigerians whom I understand are in SA are a very driven competitive bunch.In short,survivors.They do not need me to come to their defence.Perhaps they have one or two insights from their travels SA will do well to study
Nigerians are just a target for h.ate which I rather suspect to be a redirected self-loathing that is unclear to those who harbour it. I hope there are others who can see beyond this inside and look toward a vision where Black people as a race have something to be proud of. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Jaja'sQueen
@Msola321
All you need to know now is that South Africa and Nigeria enjoy strong diplomatic and trade links. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Missynj
Europe and South Africa deported 427 Nigerians more or less the same time in February 2012 only? We need to be asking ourselves questions? South African government then decided to apologize. what apology? Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Jaja'sQueen
@Yorubaman
Relax my brother a high-level ministerial task team had been set up to investigate the matter. Our cabinet minister has expressed “shock and regret” at the incident. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
pierre2000
@ Yorubaman
I must say many comments strike me as coming from people who have never left their neighbourhoods.I don't mean this to be an insult at all but a matter or fact. Those who have know how dangerous this kind of hating can be."Go back to where you came from" rhetoric is hackneyed and often impotent.The particular ethnic group of Nigerians whom I understand are in SA are a very driven competitive bunch.In short,survivors.They do not need me to come to their defence.Perhaps they have one or two insights from their travels SA will do well to study
Nigerians are just a target for h.ate which I rather suspect to be a redirected self-loathing that is unclear to those who harbour it. I hope there are others who can see beyond this inside and look toward a vision where Black people as a race have something to be proud of.
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You are a good one, falling in the 1 % categrory of gud Nigas. 99% are crooks!!!!!!!!!! Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Msola321
@Jaja'sQueen
So South African’s health must be jeopardized because of their valueless trade, they don’t even sell their oil to us they sell it oversea
@Candyboy
Whatever it takes...do you have any idea how much money is in that country? Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Msola321
@Missynj
Europe and South Africa deported 427 Nigerians more or less the same time in February 2012 only? We need to be asking ourselves questions? South African government then decided to apologize. what apology?
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Exactly my point.......... Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
one_naija
You guys need to relax, that apology is for your own good!
A lot of bad things woulda happened to SA if we hadnt gotten that apology soon enough.
@one_naija
You guys need to relax, that apology is for your own good!
A lot of bad things woulda happened to SA if we hadnt gotten that apology soon enough.
You should thank your government!
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What bad things.....? Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Jaja'sQueen
@Msola321
The last time Nigeria had a case of yellow fever was before 1995. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Tzozzo
@ 9jaBoy
Still dreaming of becoming Africa's largest economy ? South Africa has always been one and remain one until Badluck Jonathan agrees to Boko Haram's call to make your shi*t country a muslim state..hahahahahahhahahah.
As for your comical statement that Nigeria owns SA I can only conclude that you are not only a seller of cocaine but a user as well. That is cocaine induced delusions of grandeur.
Or did you mean to say Nigerian pimps own SA dope addicts maybe....... Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
9jaboy
@msola321.....Yellow fever and HIV aids choose one??????????????????? Cos your health has been in jeopardy even before the influx of Nigerian immigrants... Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Jaja'sQueen
@one_naija
We love this government and your government too and thank you for accepting our apology, it takes a big man to do that, my african brother. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
brock
south africans we 2weak look at how dis monkeys are feeding us wth k@k,de likes of mr kwerekwere 9jaboy....no,no,no,no,dis is unacceptable fellows...alexadra,seshego,plz guys declare dat famous war im prepared 2 take it 2 de streeets..SA stp complaing about de govt,we all knw dat dey r useless...WAR WAR WAR!!!!!!!!!! Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
brock
WAR WAR WAR against this monkeys.....war against 9jak@k Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Msola321
@Jaja'sQueen
So why do they need fake certificates.....?
@9jaboy
Because you and your brothers are the one who bringing these diseases in here Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Danger1985
The truth of the matter is that the apology is for the good of the political leaders who are making a great deal of money from their direct investment with Nigeria. It is no secret that there are "secret treaties" btwn SA and Nigeria which will never come out just like the Arms Deal.
The Nigerians are part of the problem but the real problem is the ANC Gvt...FACT!!! Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
sgubhusenkwishi
Mr Ebrahim ibrahim, you are fired. You dont qualify to nullify the work well done within the protocols and policiies of the country to please the whinging countries. That is totally unacceptable and unproffessional , it equates to the national betrayal sentencing.
If the employees who carried out such good jobs, they fail to do so in future acting to the best of our national interest, you will blame them as incompetent and unproffessional , who guided you to arrive to such unsolicited decesion. Ofcourse if the immigration allowes such scale of immigrant to go through into the country against all such odd, how much health damage will our national have to keep up with, despite so much burden they already have to keep up with without enough capacity to handle. You have really made a big blunder, this is just a political based judgement undermining the impact and effect that this neglegence might have to our citizens. An immediate post reshufling would be appropriate. We need patriots ,not soft sponge international pleasers. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Dzel
Jaja,
what exactly are we apologising for. this is our country, our rules and if you don't like our rules then stay at home. Why are we bending backwards for Nigerians the bulk of whom are not having a positive contribution in our country.
This one_naija dude has the audacity to tell us to apologise or else. Hell no, I will not go to Nigeria and start disrespecting the country so why are we allowing Nigeria to do this to us?
Ewena 9jashit why don't you go back to your country and apply your skills there and take care of your whores there... If there is any thing that we benefit from you surely it is very insignificant compared to the damage that you guys are causing us.... When the name nigerians come to my mind I think of drug dealers, pimps and nothing else.. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
9jaboy
TZOZZO.....I'm not the one predicting or claiming Nigeria to become Africas largest economy n next 5 to 10 years.....CNN , BBC and Morgan Stanley and top world Financial analysts have have said so...Do your research, travel the globe, get information beyond your TV and overlook fallacies.
As for Boko haram...its a western tool created for the sole purpose of securing Nigeria's oil reserves...Too bad Nigerians are too smart for them...Iraq, Libya, Iran then Nigeria??? Does that make sense to you??Maybe not cos your level of assimilating information, critical thinking, understanding of world events and the politics of the people that call shots is still in the neophyte stage. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Jaja'sQueen
@Msola321
This was a terrible misunderstanding the documents were from the federal ministry of health. Let's leave it at that. The apology is already out there and it is with our sincerest regrets this has happened. I going home now. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
MommaC
Jaja'sQueen
You say this has to do with financial losses that could occur. What would the financial ramifications be if SA became infected with yellow fever? Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
AmweA
Guys, We pride ourselves as big league players in the world, BICS et.al. ut what we did is not in accordance with the best international practices. Those that are interested should look at the international health act of 2005 articles 23, 32 and 45. The malawian players were innoculated in kenya and allowed to proceed as required by law, the other players who were not vaccinated were sent back to Blantyre. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
9jaboy
@DANGER 1985.........Thank you very much for your comment....help educate your ppl..... Report Abuse
These bloody Nigerians think we are ignorant people who know little about them and what is happening in their country. I for one have been in that humongous slum called Lagos three times and I can tell you I have never seen such disorganisedn mess in my entire life. A collegue of mine went there in January this year and although I had warned him beforehand he was still unprepared for the culture shock that met him when he arrived at what passes for their international airport.
I don't understand why Nigerians can't understand why everybody outside their country h ate them. Right now Boko Haram, an Islamist organization with its roots in the north of the country can't stand their "fellow" Southerners whom they accuse of being morally degenerate and the epitome of everything evil. And lest we forget it is mostly the southerners (igbos) who come here and cause all sort of shi*t. Nigerians are constantly debating whether their country should continue as one thing because they h ate each other more than I h ate their drug dealers.
This was a terrible misunderstanding the documents were from the federal ministry of health. Let's leave it at that. The apology is already out there and it is with our sincerest regrets this has happened.
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We usually see eye to eye but on this one we have to disagree; please speak for yourself as I see no need to apologise. If anything this incident has reveal it is the entitlement attitude Nigerians come to SA with that is why they do not think twice about force-feeding young children drugs and forcing them into prostitu.tion. Has the Nigerian government apologised for crimes committed by Nigerians in SA?
Nigerians are the last people to talk given what their nationals do once in our country.
Jerrrrrrrrrrrrrr Government ee eya depresa man! Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
sgubhusenkwishi
What were they coming here for in the first place? Did they have jobs, any working permit at hand if they were already employed by companies of state employed ? If not they were still not qualifying to come through the borders of our country. You are driving our country down, infiltrating it with drug lords, pimps, human traffickers, diseases and fakers and you dont care.
What you care about about is lininng your pockets at all costs. You are a shame to our nationals.
Xenophobia will never stop inthis country, people have to take law into their own hands if the state officials fail them. You have got nothing to be proud about. These people are not even our neighbours, but they black mail you as they call themselves africans which has got no benefit to our nationals. They have to breach all our law, rules and policies, simple because they are africans. How do you manage this country? you are so disgusting.
If a person doesnt meet the rules and requirements to live in my house, brotherhood and relationship is immaterial. No one would force me to breach my rules full stop. We just have to unvote anc , to clean our country of foreigners. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Dzel
@Yorubaman,
Nigerians are just a target for h.ate which I rather suspect to be a redirected self-loathing that is unclear to those who harbour it. I hope there are others who can see beyond this inside and look toward a vision where Black people as a race have something to be proud of.
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Have you been to SA, have you been to Hillbrow (Johannesburg), Point (Durban), Sea Point (Cape Town) and seen the contribution from your countrymen in SA and crime in general?
Until you have you will never understand the level of resentment and are in no position to tell us about self-loathing. that you think it is self-loathing makes it obvious you have no idea what you are talking about.
I thot you only sell narcs. The Nigerian govt too smart for Boko Haram ??? C'mon 9jaFool. Hardly a day passes by without BH blowing up people in churches and mosques. Even before BH came into the picture Nigerians were always at each other's throats. We know you h ate each other with a passion. It won't even surprise me if that country disintegrate even before you attain your dream of becoming Africa's largest economy. In 2010 I attended a short course in CT with a few Nigerian guys and I couldn't believe it when I saw how guys from the South never even bothered to greet those from the North while they were always so keen to befriend us SAns. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
MommaC
Jaja'sQueen
If the vaccination tags were from the federal ministry of health then why didn't the batch numbers exist?
I think you are being a polar bear after penguins again here. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
one_naija
@Dzel,
If nigerians SUCCESSFULLY force-feed your children drugs and force them into prostitution and yet it is not as bad here in Nigeria, it then says a lot about your society.
You should be able to ask yourselves why is it easy to do in South Africa but not in Nigeria. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Honeybadger
Tzozzo
Very interesting analogy. If i understand you correctly, it sounds like the Nigerians who are in SA are actually displaced caused by the persecution by Boko Haram. Lets just accept them as part of us and learn to live together. We honestly cannot say all Nigerians are drug dealers, 419 scammers etc
Perhaps the approach is to try and tackle the problem as it is without the profiling. maybe instead of focusing on the drug peddler we also focus on the consumer. remember without a buyer there wont be a seller. just a thought... Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
MommaC
one_naija
Now you are talking bull. I've been to Nigeria. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Dzel
one_naija,
If nigerians SUCCESSFULLY force-feed your children drugs and force them into prostitution and yet it is not as bad here in Nigeria, it then says a lot about your society.
You should be able to ask yourselves why is it easy to do in South Africa but not in Nigeria.
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Now you are being obtuse, your countrymen come here and commit crime en-mass and you try to push blame to SA. How old are you dude, are you completely devoid of logical thinking?
Ek is nou rerig ga.tvol.
S.A. citizens continue suffering ridicule from foreigners in their own land,streets,bars,jobs e.t.c. and now even out governmemnt goes and l.icks fvken foreign government ga.tte. That apology does not represent me until I know exactly why we had to apologise. Also until we receive an apology from the Nigerian government for all the destruction that their drug dealing citizens cause our country. Dont flatter yourselves ogas.That apology represents a minority of fatcats and not S.A. people. Take a sample survey of the comments and see the truth.
And we are supposed to be proudly South African,I suppose? We are tired of people nursing their own individual political careers at the expense of the majority of our people. Those airport officials did nothing wrong but act in a pro-active and preventative manner to protect the poor people of S.A. who cant afford specialist treatment from desease. The fatcats with state sponsored specialist medical care do not see the good job that those people were doing because they never experience these things. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Mafakudukudu
Dumelang Ka moka. Namogeleng hle. am a bloggr & ke le rata all.:-) Report Abuse
man i just do not know what to say to you your arrogance is just................................. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
MommaC
aaah just did a google search for 'chancellor house' + nigeria. Now I understand Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Honeybadger
MommaC
I agree with you one_naija is trying too hard now. Besides let this not become a pi$sing contest but rather a fruitful discussion where statements are backed by facts or at the least opinion with slight common sense.
I wish we could have face to face debate with these nigerians Government will have to protect them because we will bur?n one nigerian to make an example of what it is coming for them. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
one_naija
@Dzel;
My age wont matter to you anymore when you ask yourself those basic questions.
Our enemy number one is our government. We have got a gvt that is a who re, who betrays our country at all costs. Agovt that will share bed will all the pimps, drug dealers and corruptees. Mazulu thathani izagile zenu nizivikele aninahulumeni. Vikelani izwe loyihlomkhulu nikhohlwe yilemfeketho. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Warren
Sgubhu
Mr Ebrahim ibrahim, you are fired. You dont qualify to nullify the work well done within the protocols and policiies of the country to please the whinging countries. That is totally unacceptable and unproffessional , it equates to the national betrayal sentencing.
If the employees who carried out such good jobs, they fail to do so in future acting to the best of our national interest, you will blame them as incompetent and unproffessional , who guided you to arrive to such unsolicited decesion.
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Spot on Sgubhu. Who exactly took that decision to apologise on our behalf? As usual they saw no need to inform us on the reasons for taking that decision.Just like with many other things like the Tolls and so on. Thats how much we are taken for granted by our own people once they think they have arrived. Ek is so foken die moer in ek is somaar lus om iemand se g.at te skop man. nxa.
How does it not become a pizzing contest with these kind of comments being thrown around? You gotta admit, it is hard to keep the decent Nigerians we have met in mind when this fool is spouting this kind of nonsense. He gives the entire country a bad name Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Honeybadger
MommaC
He could have just bunked school today. me thinks not worth the effort. we had some mind opening comments from Nigerians above; one_naija wasnt one of them. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
MommaC
Honeybadger
I think we (as South Africans) are always too quick to become aggressive and push everyone into a stereotyped, neatly labelled box. The Nigerians don't help their cause though. A lot of them seem to actively try to live down to those stereotypes.
As I said in the previous string. There is good and bad in every part of the world. We just seem to have more than our fair share of the 'bad' Nigerians in this part Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
African2dcore
Well done SA govt for apologising to Nigeria. I bet some of the vile comments on this site about the apology wouldn't have been posted if it was rendered to the US or UK govt for deporting their citizens (rightly or wrongly). SA govt has displayed real strength here and has shown the way on how Africans can resolve their problems without external interference. SA citizens should stop seeing themselves as 'Afro-Europeans' and start treating other Africans with dignity. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Yorubaman
It is lazy to say one person from one country does so and so and on that basis I will I relate to others.This is why I say most commentators have never left there homelands. I live in the UK and also have visited several European cities with a cosmopolitan population.
It is part of human nature to resent outsiders especially when times are hard but also for a range of other reasons.To a large extent forces of globalization dominate the world and have done for a while now. I suppose apartheid era isolation means that ,mentally ,many SAcans live in a bubble. Reality is foreigners will come to your country to compete with you in all areas and not being able to compete will drive resentment.
It seems SAcans resent foreigners in general NOT just Nigerians but for some reason this resentment is particularly virulent for Black Africans and Nigerians particularly and this is why I came up with the redirected self loathing hypothesis.
I am not aware of any evidence that Nigerians are more criminal than Indians,Russians,Chinese,Mexicans or Brazilians Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
MommaC
African2dcore
What is it with the bloody chip on the shoulder?
I have personally seen German nationals (yes, very very white ones) being turned back because they had been in a yellow fever area and did NOT have a yellow fever inoculation certificate. So stuff you and your inferiority complex !!! Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Yorubaman
The apology was the correct thing to do rather than conflate two unrelated issues.
If Nigerian immigration volume in general is a problem this can be addressed in a strategic and focused way.
This is equally true for criminal activity.
Nigeria has not reported Yellow Fever for 20 years and should not require vaccination and so that requirement must be dropped .
Relationships between sovreign nations do not leave room for ambivalence ,either we have one or we don't
In the former case it must be managed with tact and respect.
Is Nigeria an 'at risk' country for yellow fever?
Does the Nigerian government do enough to ensure that they do not get yellow fever?
Do most countries follow the WHO suggestions as to who requires yellow fever certificates?
Is a yellow fever certificate needed by SA in order for someone from a risk country to travel here?
If the answer to all of the above is yes (which it is)
Then why get a fake yellow fever certificate which probably costs more than the bloody injection does? Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Warren
Jajas Queen
Okay, I am fine now, have just consulted with my peeps. The reason for the apology was to appease the Nigerian government as the senators had asked the Federal Government to shut down all South African companies and for an immediate closure of the embassy. We have invested a lot in Nigeria. Lets all relax.
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So a few capitalists interests rule over National Pride? For your info. after this show of weakness has happened,these nigerian fraudsters will hold us at ransom looking for yet another excuse to do exactly that.Confisticate all S.A. business interests in Nigeria. Any S.A. business with interests in Nigeria must just read the irrational and reactionary response of that government and know that it may be averted now,but its coming for one reason or another.
I say start planning ahead guys. It fvcken Nigerians you dealing with.Dont get too cosy.
On the other hand,in the not so long run,it would serve our country better if we do the tit for tat thing because our country would be rid of all drug smuggling and scamming Nigerians.Imagine if we also closed their embassy here and sent all their citizens home? I for one,would be clad to contribute towards compesating the companies that lose businesses in Nigeria. As long as our land would be rid of all Nigerians. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
9jaboy
@TZOZZO....U still show your lack of immaturity in terms of actuality and reality...What are you and your colleagues travelling to Nigeria for??? You went for a good cause?? So every Nigerian coming to SA is coming to feed your ppl drugs and lead your women into prostitution whereras SAFricans only travel to help humanity as they have contributed more than any nation in the well being of the entire African continent ??? When I said Nigerians are too smart for the Boko Haram propaganda I mean ppl like me not the Nigerian Government who is also as useless as your own country's government..You are still western biased and this is why Africa as a continent is still behind the rest....You dont understand the west's hunger for oil and you equally do not understand the new world order agenda hence you couldve understood the creation and motive behind boko haram...Is there genuine love among ur own ppl?Don't you have tribal differences too? Light skin, brown skin, dark skin and marungus?Is there any South African problem you can prove that is directly caused by Nigeria/Nigerians? Nigeria or no Nigeria...a prosti@#te, drug addict, alcoholic and greedy business person who will fall for scam will always exist...Do not talk like you dont have slums in your country or that if everything Nigeria is completely removed from your country your lives will be better...This is what you dont understand and this is exactly why you don't understand Boko Haram....And if u think the Northern and Southern Nigerians you met do not like themselves and love you South African more then start a fight against their nation and see how quick they will become brothers to crush you...and this is what we need (unity)as Africans to fight our problems and realize our God given potentials not discrimination...You can bluff all you want but as long as your Government have apologized and continue to do so just like they have done in the past...you as the South African is still the looser..so have a very good sad day Uncle Zu#u Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
9jaboy
@man eater.....I'm glad u notice me.....but the truth of the matter is that Nigerians are very succesfull ppl and this is the main reason for all this h#te.....We have our problems, and ofcourse as Africa's most populous nation, it is very easy to understand why Nigerian crimes are highly visible... But this is not enough reason to forget history..go and read Nigeria/Nigerians role during apartheid...Go and google famous Nigerians and credible Nigerians all over the world making strong impact towards improving humanity...Nigeria have added one African billionaire every year to forbes list in the last 3 years...and the fact that South Africa is no heaven and has been reported to being the most dangerous country in the world which is not at war as far back as 2002, from rhino poaching to every thing one can think of, makes it very funny to read a lot of the SAfrican mindset here....You guys are no angels...If you can't beat them...join them #TeamNigeria#..even here in New York i walk into your restaurants (madiba) and in few seconds i whisk your women and all night all they do is talk abt how much they h#te their men bcos they are lazy and not success driven.....Stop the h#te...increase your husle...and yes I have a PHD.... Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Honeybadger
9jaboy
still a pis$ing contest really. this discussion has been about whose is bigger from the start. very few tried to get to the crux of the matter. instead its about which country is richer, or which is poorer, etc i say just a pissing contest at the end of the day Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Mkwerekwere
so is this apology sincere or just a way to seek support for nkosazana zuma for the AU post ? and well done Nigeria for standing up to this bullying xenophobic government thats forgets that it was fellow africans who helped liberate your from apartheid, and keep mouring until you relaise that the wolrd has gone cosmopolitan you are so backward you south africans deal with it , it is what it is people go where they want in todays wold visa or no visa yellow fever certificate or not , DHA or not Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
one_naija
I will ask GEJ to make sure we start requesting HIV certificate from all South Africans. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
9jaboy
Honeybadger.....No its abt condeming a nation of over 150 million ppl just because of some low lifes....Every country has good and bad ppl...why the ha$e towards every Nigerian and the Nigerian nation? Deal and tackle your own issues first before pointing fingers..Yellow fever according to Nigeria's ministry of health and World Health Organization was last seen in Nigeria in 2005 or are you not aware that South African border officials/ immigration use it as a means of bribery? Where is yellow fever card or pay some $$$...Nigeria is responsible for that too?? You have aids more than any other African nation which is incurrable and your worrying abt yellow fever? What a joke...Lets just face the fact, the South African immigration and Government just made a big fool of themselves and the whole entire South African nation...I'm not debating who is better or richer...South Africa is ahead of Nigeria in terms of everything especially infrastructure...but I will affirm to you again that the whole xenophobia is that Nigeria and Nigerians are coming up real fast...h@ing , discriminating and prejudice on a few Nigerians who are less than 1% of the country cannot stop the Nigerian surge to become Africa's # 1 nation...the people, intellect, hard work and resources are there..its all a matter of time and those drug dealers will be rushing back to Nigeria...lets just pray a bunch of South Africans will not be following them.... Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
afam4eva
I'm really lol at the comments on here. South Africans are funny bunch of people. Your country apologized for the your own good. You don't go about messing with countries that you benefit a great deal from. You guys are just buncha uneducated fellows. WTF. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
moralett
To the minister of Home Affairs and The Ambassador in Nigeria,the is no apology,this people must must be deported , all of them out of the country now not tomorrow. I beleive we had enough about this people,what are they doing here,to destroy our beautifull land with their drugs. Big no they must all deport out and they must apply for the new passport to come this country. I would like to highligth our minister of Home affairs stop being so nice to the wrong thing because we are going to lose the culture.
I believe if the can send the mellow yellow to escort them out they will never come back again,Mrs Minister do you know mellow yellow(Oom Piete) setting on top of mellow yellow,am telling you this people they will never ever come back again. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
9jaboy
@afam4eva....do not mind them....ignorance is the biggest and the most dangerous disease facing humanity espeically the African continent....Maybe the average South African is either suffering from dementia, or their elders have failed to educate them on history or they are just people with short memory...South Africa cannot pay Nigeria back what it gave them during the apartheid struggle....not only financially but emotionally , truthfully in dignity and in the true spirit of being African...#Word#.... Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
afam4eva
Mybe we should start requesting for HIV card from every south african that's coming into Nigeria. isn't that inorder since a large number of bafanas are HIV infested. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
ProudlyNigerian
I not really suprised with some of the comments here because most saffers on sowetan are brain dead but i must say i am suprised at MommaC's comments.I could almost say they are bordering on racism.I have one question for you Mommc,you claim to have been to Nigeria before? Did you get infected with Yellow fever in Nigeria? Can you point to any recent case where an outbreak of yellow fever has been reported in Nigeria?
If your answer is a solid NO why are you insinuating that Nigerians will bring yellow fever to SA?No Nigerian is currently infected with the disease so how can they bring it to SA? Nigerians have been coming here since 1990s,how many outbreaks of yellow fever has occured in SA in then?You even had the audacity to refer to us as mozzies in the other artcle but you always claim not to be a racist.You might see yourself as an African but i will never see you as an African,i have been following your comments on several articles and i have noticed that you and your kin RobinH always make questionable statements that will make one wonder on which side of the fence you are.
I will say this clearly for you to understand,i have lost all respect for you and i will always considered your comments to be racially motivat3d and illinformed.Please refrain from commenting about Nigeria because you are clearly ignorant about what is really going in Nigeria.
You did not address the issue of the Nigerian women and children who were held illegally (without any solid proof that they are in possession of fake documents) without food and water for 24hrs and bundled on a flight like animals back home.I don't even know why i am suprised after all you a wh!te South African and based on my experience in this country ,you guys are visibly heartless and racist to your souls.
If you could use your number six ,you will realize that no Mother will bu.y fake yellow fever cards for her children knowing that she and her kids could be detained ,arrested or deported back home.Your logic shows that all wh!te and some black South Africans think alike and lack common sense but have in abundance a discriminatory mentality. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
AmazulunaOrlandoPirate
It is never unprecedented but most unfortunate that brothers and sisters from South Africa posting comment have never asked the important question. If Nigerians were you, Our concern would be why did our government deploy citizens who are not educated at the International Airport?
Your government has been mature to step up and apologise with the necessary speed of light. Otherwise, the adverse impact of further delays is that the Billions of Rand that Shoprite, Multichoice, MTN, and many other of your companies drive into your country on monthly basis to pay some social grant will dry up and many will literarily die of hunger.
Nigerian population is the Main Stay of South African Economy. Clearly majority of you who have posted comment, never understand the hand that feeds you. for record purpose, please note that South Africa repartriated 125 Nigerians and Nigeria has within three days deported 121 South Africans, does this tell you that South Africans also go to Nigeria?
So the govenment can and will deport BLACK! african Nigerian nationals back to nigeria but will not deport WHITE! so called Afrikanerbond netherland european immigrants with there original origins being from russian and there sick history in south africa of the treatment of BLACK! Azanian's and the govenment will not deport them???.....
Yes! that realy makes sense doesn't it! Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Sukamania
I notice that a lot people have reacted/are reacting to this issue from a position of ignorance and lots of emotions. There are certain important questions that need to be raised.
1. One of the valid requirements to obtain an SA visa is a yellow card showing evidence of Yellow Fever immunization. How could the SA High Commission in Nigeria issue visas to people with "fake" yellow cards?
2. What were the convincing evidence that the Yellow Cards were all fake? How can 125 people all have fake yellow cards?
3. International protocol in diplomacy requires that when u have such an issue involving large number of people from a certain country, you are expected to, at least, inform the Govt of that country through their Ambassador. SA completely ignored a basic rule of diplomacy.
4. A Nigerian Senator, which is an equivalent of a US Senator, was involved in this shameful deportation. A Senator typically travels with a Diplomatic passport and deserves all the due protocols accorded a foreign dignitary. How can SA embarrass a Nigerian Senator? Can that same treatment be given to a US Senator?
5. Why didn't the SA Govt./Immigration quarantine the people for a few hours, give them Yellow Fever immunization and charge them for it?
6. Is Yellow Fever worst than HIV? SA has one of the worst HIV records in the world and yet lots of SA people still travel to Nigeria daily.
7. Couldn't this have been handled more decently than resorting to provocative deportation?
I am a Nigerian, I live in Nigeria and I have a very decent job in Nigeria. I have travelled round the world and can't imagine travelling to SA. I have heard horrible things that happen to ordinary Nigerians that come there - armed robbery incidents and how Immigration officials collude with thieves to rob Nigerians in their hotel rooms and all that. Every country has it's own challenges, Nigeria may not be at its best now, doesn't mean u should maltreat Nigerians in your country. There are thousands of SA people living and working here.
Nigerian media this morning reports that Nigerian Govt. has given some conditions for this face-off to be resolved:
1. An official Apology from SA govt.
2. The Immigration officials who were responsible for this incident must be punished.
3. The costs (expenses) incured by the Nigerian travellers must be paid by SA govt.
4. A commitment that such incident must never happen again.
The real truth is that SA is what it is today bcos Nigeria paid the big price to liberate SA. Nigeria commanded huge influenced in global fora and galvanised African voices against apartheid to liberate SA. Most of the people making these comments never really experienced Apartheid - ask your fathers/mothers. Every generation of SA people should be greatful to Nigeria and Africa for the sacrifices paid in human and financial resources - Habouring ur people, training them, giving scholarships, etc. The least Nigeria expect from you is gratitude and respect rather than provocation.
A lot of my Nigerian brothers have said it all. SA do not have choice but continue to accommodate Nigerians no matter how much you are intimidated by our smartness and ingenuity for the following reasons;
1 95 percent of the SAs commenting on this page will die of hunger if they do because 40 percent of total SA money comes from Nigeria (MTN, MULTICHOICE, SHOPRITE)
2 We invested our scarce resources TO SAVE YOU ALL FROM THE CRUELTY OF THE WHITE COLONIAL MASTERS
3 SA is a complete disgrace to the African populace because of their embarrassing record of HIV infection, even at that we do not ask you to provide HIV test result or request that we test SAs before they gain entry into Nigeria because WHO is against that and so is WHO against request for yellow fever vaccination from countries that are not endemic to it.
In summary, SA needs Nigeria more than we need SA and so does the whole world...
I rest my case
Engr Mmemme Atuegwu
Atlanta Georgia, USA
In summary, SA needs Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Warren
Whatever the reason is that some individuals in our government thought it important to apologize, I still maintain that it has more to do with nursing personal political careers than it is in the interest of National Pride. A country without national pride can never be fully patriotic or united in anything.
Spineless,unprincipled governments are nothing to be proud of,whatever the excuse.
There is a line between calculated deplomacy and plain arrogance and indecisiveness.
We need to take a leaf from the Americans when it comes to national pride and decisiveness,whether their decisions are popuplar or not,they make decisions and stick to them throughout. Thats what governments do,show strength and character for once dammit. Thats why Americans are so patriotic.
To the southern nigerian ars.holes who carry on insulting and provoking S.A. people here, the joke will be on you one day.
To S.A. businesses with interests in nigeria, the reaction of that government to this matter should tell you of things to come,you have been warned because they may hold some influential people at ransom but they cant forever hold the whole nation at ransom. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Warren
To all loudmouth nigerians claiming to have liberated S.A..you can tell that to the ignorant m orons who also fall for your scams. Or try the younger ignorant generation of S.A.can do not know their history. The bulk of the funds you claim to have contributed towards our liberation never left the pockets of your own leaders just like the bulk of your oil revenues never reached where they were destined for. In short,you were scammed in our name. It is exactly this false sense of entitlement that leads to your disrespect of our land and you already pushing it too far as it is. If it was true that you single handedly deliverd us from aparheid,does it entitle you to destroy our country and children with drugs and fraud? That will never happen cos we wont allow it.apology or not.
Countries like Tanzania,Botswana.Moz,Lesotho.Swaziland,Zambia,Cuba,USSR,Scandanavia and many more,did hundred fold more than you but they still respect us so vtsek man. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
NigeriaGiantofAfricaSAtakenote
After all the rantings, why the apology.
It tells clearly that SA needs Nigeria more than Nigeria needs anyone.
Our crude oil gains isn't well spread to get to the common man, but that does not stop us from being the best that anyone can be for people who look up to him.
I can decipher from all that ignorant SA that their basic problem in this whole deportation thing is just INFERIORITY COMPLEX.
An average Nigerian is naturally smarter than anyone else from at least within the periphery of Africa.
Yes! Our leaders caused us to route for the smartest way to keep our heads above our shoulders...
nothing dey happen!!!
Mmemme Atuegwu
Atlanta Georgia, USA
We have to vote another gvt in power like Ifp / DA that will lead this country without being held into ransom by all these doomsayers from african countries who claim that they helped ANC during the struggle against apartheid, we are now sick and tired of such retarded tabulations. Some of this countries are so poor themselves and very corrupted. One wanders how would they have managed to help any one with such dry mouths that can caught fire if exposed to it , they cant even feed their people. Apart from that this claims are interfering with the way we suppose to independently manage our sovereignity without fear or favour. Instead we have to payback all the drug dealers and flood our streets with ungovernable people simple because there these unfounded claims.
Enough is enough and to hell with the way we relate to this african countries. If they cant respect our laws to hell with them. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
sgubhusenkwishi
South africa can do very well especially without nigeria. Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
TheTruthShallSetsUFree
It does not matter whether or not the certificates were fake!!! A fake Health Book is a very very minor offence (as compared to a fake Visa endorsement, which can also carry a stint in prison before deportation, but the appropriate Consul should be informed). The most offensive thing that the RSA Dept of Immigration did was to act of their own accord instead of consulting with their superiors (read Home Affairs or even the Home Ministry). Correction is carried out by means of providing the injection-dose at the airport, and levying a fee. I have personally been without a Health Book in various parts of Africa in the past, yet they have been lenient. There is too much arbitrary "dictatorship" being enacted by various Govt departments in South Africa these days, taking queue from top levels of Government who have begun behaving like complete arrogant idiots without knowledge or foresight! Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
TheTruthShallSetsUFree
Let South Africa close all Nigeria businesses in their country and we will do the same in Nigeria and see who will blink first. Let all the SA companies begin to pack their loads and return to SA. It is high time Nigerians started our own xenophobia and start dealing mercilessly with all the South Africans in our land. Enough is enough!!! Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
TheTruthShallSetsUFree
The problem is that many South Africans don't know the roles Nigeria played in contributing to the freedom they are enjoying today. Go and ask Mandela and Ibeki. They will tell you more. They had acknowledged many times that without Nigeria supports during the apartheid, your country would have been in slavery forever. Report Abuse
@meme...dalu nwannem ka Chineke gozie gi..... Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Alues
@ Sukamania. you are a Nigerian in Nigeria. Am a Nigerian / South African citizen in SA. try to immagine how am feeling right now with these BS issues. I must tell you, you are 95% correct with your comments and am with you all the way on this particular issue.
1. One of the valid requirements to obtain an SA visa is a yellow card showing evidence of Yellow Fever immunization. How could the SA High Commission in Nigeria issue visas to people with "fake" yellow cards?
2. What were the convincing evidence that the Yellow Cards were all fake? How can 125 people all have fake yellow cards?
3. International protocol in diplomacy requires that when u have such an issue involving large number of people from a certain country, you are expected to, at least, inform the Govt of that country through their Ambassador. SA completely ignored a basic rule of diplomacy.
4. A Nigerian Senator, which is an equivalent of a US Senator, was involved in this shameful deportation. A Senator typically travels with a Diplomatic passport and deserves all the due protocols accorded a foreign dignitary. How can SA embarrass a Nigerian Senator? Can that same treatment be given to a US Senator?
5. Why didn't the SA Govt./Immigration quarantine the people for a few hours, give them Yellow Fever immunization and charge them for it?
6. Is Yellow Fever worst than HIV? SA has one of the worst HIV records in the world and yet lots of SA people still travel to Nigeria daily.
7. Couldn't this have been handled more decently than resorting to provocative deportation? Report Abuse
Mar 8, 2012
Alues
For all is worth, Politicans are less human in nature. Let our governments tell us what the problem is . As a Nigerian / South African citizen. Am trying to say both nations, how we think and act is like daily food for me. This issue of yellow card vaccination is a cover up. 9ja & Southy government? what is the matter? An owal cried in the night and a baby died in the morning. AU election just concluded and things did not go well as expected by some people. Is that the real issue? Yellow fever card? No, not now and not ever will 9ja government nor SA react so immature to yellow fever. 1. that is discrimination aganist yellow fever.. Where is certificate for HIV, CANCER, ASTHMA, DIABETIES, DEPRESSION. To deport 125 Nigerians in the name of yellow card is a total madness. I understand immigration matters very well. In 2008, I was very, very and over questioned in Nigeria by a Nigerian immigration as they claim or beleive that I am not a Nigerian and that my Nigerian passport is or was fake. I bi Bendel boy. In 2011 August when my pretty baby girl was born, during baby registration with home affairs rep in Joburg Gen, the lady was asking for my resident permit at the hospital even when my ID says South African Citizen. Some times, some people over do their job(s) for some stupid and personal selfish reasons, ok. but to deport 125 people for stupid yellow card is unthinkable. I love both my government and for the sake of that love, please what it is, that warm that is eating you both out, find a cure as that warm can be worst than HIV and CANCER. Report Abuse
Mar 9, 2012
liveanddieinsa
Most of u guys here are illitrates,u don't know history,u don't know economics,u don't know international relations,u don't know geography,u don't know politics and u write rubbish on this page out of ignorance.u use sensitive words because u are unemployed and hungry,come on,read,travel,get out of ur locations,travel to other countries and get educationed.all of u don't even know south Africa history,funny. Report Abuse
Mar 9, 2012
liveanddieinsa
9jaboy...u are trying to educate gross illitrates,angry people from birth,people who dislike themselves what good do u expect from them towards others,from them u hear things like xenophobia,apartheid,leave them alone,only ur comments are logical to me,others are reacting out of frustration and poverty...just sign out let them accuse themselves and government,they need more education.
liveanddieinsa: So seeing as we are all so thick, why not impart some of your wonderful wisdom. Enlighten the poor dim people of South Africa. We eagerly await the blessing of your sage thoughts.
Good Gods !!!
Are there really so many completely ignorant and blind stupid Nigerians around as we see on this page?
It seems that not one of the cretins actually knows what yellow fever is and they all think that cancer and HIV are transmitted by mosquitoes. And I thought our education was defective. With that kind of ignorance, I'm impressed that they manage to get the right sh*es on the right feet every morning. No wonder their country has a high risk rating for yellow fever. Half of the ignorant sods are actively trying to murder their fellow Nigerians with liver infesting parasites. Report Abuse
Mar 9, 2012
RobinH
liveanddieinsa: With a name like that your attitude is most curious. Listen, you arrogant SOB, I for one am quite happy with my form of enlightenment. Arrogance such as yours can shove its opinions in a nice warm and tight spot. Report Abuse
Mar 9, 2012
JahNeh
@KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
Apology means acceptance that u wronged.
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No Sir. It simply means we've got mature leadership, who do not behave like Primadonnas and divas like a certainForeign Minister Olugbenga Ashiru. What a clown, no wonder Boko Haram doesn't recognise that kak government. Report Abuse
Mar 9, 2012
JahNeh
@liveanddieinsa
RobinH,impact wisdom on people who think SA is everything on earth?
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It's impart wisdom NOT impact wisdom, you "educated" and "enlightened" twat! Report Abuse
Mar 9, 2012
Prade101
259 comments of h*tred, xen#phobia, discr@mininatio, criticism and rac%sm's spewing, what is really the issue here? The fact that every country has it's own social-economic issues, which doesn't necessarily means one is better than the other, we need to face the facts here, South African constitution is deeply flawed and it's to blamed for most of it's problems, how many South African's drug traffickers have been executed in other countries? and how many foreign drug traffickers are back on South African's street after serving two years in jail? How many of South Africa's Politicians really serve the people they are supposed to serve genuine passion other than themselves? Does this make South Africans better than other Nationals? I do not wish to partake in these baseless bickering of xenophobia and I'm deeply disappointed in many of the previous commentators. No one is perfect good day everyone and have a splendid weekend. Report Abuse
Mar 9, 2012
Dzel
To all Nigerians who have commented,
1. Fight against apartheid.
I keep on hearing you guys talking about Nigeria playing a key role in liberating SA from apartheid, this cannot go unchallenged. Countries who can claim credit for aiding black south Africans are Zambia from where uMkhonto Wesizwe (MK) operated, Tanzania which was home to many South African exiles and where children of liberation heroes were sent to study at Solomon
Mahlangu camp, Namibia (SWAPO) and Angola who fought alongside MK and Cuban soldiers to liberate the then South West Africa (Namibia). Other countries who played cameo roles are Lesotho, Swaziland and Botswana who acted as gateways to Africa and exile, these countries we regularly bombed for assisting fleeing fre.edom fighter who were on their way to join APLA, MK and other liberation forces.
What exactly did Nigeria do for us?
2. Nigerian investment in SA,
Again a point I need clarity on, Nigerians if not involved in drug dealing tend to own cellphone repair shops and small businesses. The sum total of these small operations is negligible in the bigger s.cheme not even accounting for 0.00001% of our GDP, if Nigeria feels they want to disinvest they can go ahead but I suppose the net effect would be a few hundred people losing their jobs but the rest of us won’t feel the difference.
3. SA Investments in Nigeria,
Nigeria is a big market for South African accounting for a large portion of your GDP; these companies in turn pay taxes which keeps Nigeria running. It would be sad to see drastic action but it has to be pointed out that that would be biting the hand that feeds you. Investment creates jobs, it generates tax revenue and these companies are involved is social development programmes meant to benefit the people of Nigeria. If you feel you want to play hard ball then go ahead but that would lead to massive disinvestment in your country and would send a negative message to other investors and potential investors so be very careful of this double edged sword.
Whilst I am not sure of actually contribution to our Gross National Product (GNP) it is absurd to think revenue from Nigerian markets are significant in the bigger s.cheme of things, I don’t think this market accounts for anything above 2% of total GNP and I am being liberal with the figure. Of course the companies will feel the impact but in the bigger s.cheme of things we will be just OK.
4. Immigration stand-off,
This is South Africa; we have our own immigration laws which you have to follow however silly you may think the laws are. If one is not compliant with stipulation we have every right to act in accordance with our laws. If you are not happy with immigration laws then please feel fre.e to stay in your country, no one is forcing you to come to our shores. Similarly you have you laws which you can implement as you see fit.
You have to understand we as South Africans are offended by a Nigerian government that feels they can dictate what SA should and should not do in our country. If your government is childish enough to turn what is essentially an immigration issue into a political stand-off then so be it. We can play this tit for tat game but I assure you only a few planes would leave Nigeria but the traffic going the other way will be very significant, a few hundred planes if not thousands would be required to fly all Nigerians in SA legally and illegally. At least then the drug problem will be reduced significantly and we can finally have the space to breath in peace.
5. Conclusion
Whilst it is true that not every Nigerian is involved in criminal activity it has to be said a significant portion of Nigerians are. True, corruption by South Africans aids these criminals but that does not change the fact nor justify what Nigerians are doing in our country. I would have been happier had there been an collective voice from Nigerians living in South Africa condemning their fellow countrymen but there silence is defining. Your government is not doing anything to try reign in on criminal activity instead we are flooded one would think Nigeria has a policy to ship its worst citizens to South Africa.
What scares me is this situation is likely to escalate as more and more people fall victim. The concept of street justice is not lost on the ordinary South African and soon there might be an incident where someone gets hurt and this will be blamed on xenophobia yet we forget no one wants to be disrespected in their backyard. I disagree with mob justice but you also have to look at contributors to this undesirable phenomenon.
Just respect South Africa as your hosts where permanently residing here and just passing by, respect our laws and respect our communities especially our children. I will not come to Nigeria and start pissing on your table, you wouldn’t like that. I you live in South Africa and complain of being victimised for being Nigerian my question to you is what have you done to reign in your fellow countrymen?
Do you expect South Africans to suffer at the hands of Nigerians and not have a negative reaction to all Nigerians? I know it is unfair on you but what are we to do when Nigerians are busy destroying our beautiful country and murdering our children?
My dear, Nigerian men make very good bed mates and surely they can fcuk your brain out with their Sizey Lethal weapons!! - but the good ends right in the bedroom - they are not available emotionally, they will use you to achieve their selfish ends.They will go home and mary their own and life goes on....who loose? You do! In the end, you will be battered emotionally and finished physically and drained mentally. My advice: if it is good sex you after - enjoy it but never ever think you can fall in love with them - you are not a match for their mentality. Stick with our SA Brothers, they are atleast considerate and emotionally available!! If it is size you after --- go further to Limpopo -- men from that part of SA do not disappoint Report Abuse
Mar 9, 2012
Dzel
A question was asked about other nationals involved in crime in SA; fair enough we have imported criminals from all over the world and of all races. But I know of only one nation that has turned entire city blocks, entire suburbs into drug and prostitution infested slums that nation unfortunately is Nigeria. Not even our nearest neighbours Zimbabwe who have millions of Zimbabwe living in SA legally and illegally have managed this feat so why you feel sorry for yourselves just think about what it is that fuels h.ate for Nigerians.
This beyond feeling threatened competing for jobs, it is about the negative impact the Nigerian community has in South Africa. Yes not all Nigerians are criminals but so many are that the lines are now blurred and every Nigerians feels this h.ate directly. This incident will serve to deepen that hatred, all it did was reveal the arrogance and contempt with which Nigerians threats our government with.
@RobinH @jahneh...its not about insults,I can't compete with u guys cos its what u leave in.my message is simple.get facts before u show ur ignorance to d public. Report Abuse
Mar 9, 2012
Prade101
I'm a Nigerian living and working in South Africa, I do not support crime and I do agree that we have a lot of rotten potatoes amongst us, drug traffikcing, prostitution and human traffikcing are a few of the crimes fellow countrymen perpetrated especially here in SA, unfortunately, we are generalised as all criminals, I dare the SA government to tighen their laws on crime in general so as to create a safer enviroment for it's citizens. Report Abuse
Mar 9, 2012
Prade101
If countries like China, Saudi Arabia even Nigeria can serves maximum of between life and execution to serious offenders why can't SA do the same, do it not because you want to portray SA as a civilised nation to the international communities but because you want to make a better and safer place for it's inhabitant. Report Abuse
Mar 9, 2012
JahNeh
@liveanddieinsa
You can't compete with us period.
My education qualifications are not fakes bought off the street like you Yellow Fever certificates.
That's why I get the big buck$. Report Abuse
Mar 9, 2012
Sukamania
This is the latest development from this face-off:
1. SA Govt. has tendered an "Unreserved Apology" to the Nigerian Govt and it's people over this issue.
2. SA Govt. has acknowledged that not all the people who were deported had invalid yellow cards and deserved to be deported.
3. SA Govt. is planning to follow this up by sending an envoy to tender a formal letter of apology to the Nigerian President/Govt.
4. SA Govt. plans to carry out yellow fever immunization at the airports for people without yellow fever cards.
Looking at the above points, it is easy to see where the SA went wrong and why the apology is well deserved.
For those who are still wondering what role Nigeria played in liberating SA from Apartheid, plse note this fact:
Your ex-President Thabo Mbeki lived extensively in Nigeria, in a Lagos surburb called Surulere, during the apartheid era. So also were tens of thousands of other black SAfricans. Nigerian harboured your peopled, provided for them financially, nurtured them, gave them scholarships to study in various Nigerian Unversities. Nigeria went into a diplomatic fight with Britain because of apartheid. Nigeria led African voices and opinions as far apartheid was concerned, Nigeria led African commenwealth nations to boycot commonwealth meetings and sports events. It was Nigerian effort that led to apartheid ending "so soon" so that you people could live a normal life. If you choose to be ungrateful and disrespectful, then posterity may not forgive your country and your future generations. Your leaders have realised this much, hence the apology being tendered on your behalf. Report Abuse
Mar 9, 2012
Warren
Liveandieinnigeria-not sa
travel to other countries and get educationed.all of u don't even know south Africa history,funny
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What is to get EDUCATIONED oh wise one? U are just another illiterate nigerian ar.sehole trying to get smart with us here as usual. U say people must get facts bfore they show their ignorance in public? How about you getting adult literacy classes bfore showing your illiteracy in public? vtsek man.
@Dzel
Thanks for the comprehensive download disproving this scammers claim to our liberation. It shows how this scammers think they can scam themselves into our liberation history and then hold our country at ransom for their claims.
They can hold at ransom only those that invested in their country,not the whole of S.A.
Why must we allow nigerians to ransack and plunder our country,destroy our children with drugs and vice and disrespect us and our country just because a handful individuals and their families are benefitting from investments in nigeria? k.ak man.
Looking at the above points, it is easy to see where the SA went wrong and why the apology is well deserved.
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No, the South African is mature enough to roll-over and play dead in the interests of resolving this impasse even if it means they have to accept responsibility for the actions of your childish government. The danger is their actions will be misunderstood by people like you. Your government deported people without just cause in a childish display of reciprocal punitive action, they could have sorted this out using diplomatic channels and not made a scene where one was necessary and you are short-sighted enough to consider this a victory. You have no idea how small-minded this makes you look like.
With regards to apartheid it is true that Mbeki was the ANC’s representative in Nigeria but let us overstate your role in the fight against apartheid. Apartheid started falling apart in the late 70s starting with the 1976 uprising followed closely by Steve Biko’s death in 1977, both events served to raise international awareness of what apartheid was really about. It wasn’t until early 80s that SA started burning; the state of emergency in 86 and eventually the government started getting seriously broke and could not sustain apartheid any longer due to international sanctions. These are events that broke apartheid’s back cemented by a resounding NO vote in 1990 which paved the way for the unbanning of political parties and an advent of democracy.
To state we owe our freedom to Nigeria is indicative of one who does not understand history, whilst not under stating the role played by other African states it suffices to say SA got more support from Cuba and Russia; financially, logistically and men fighting on the ground (Cuba in Angola) than anything from Nigeria. It makes no sense that you want us to be held hostage by history when Nigeria’s role was marginal. We appreciate all the support we got but let us not blow it out of proportion for self-serving purposes.
JahNeh
who do not behave like Primadonnas and divas like a certainForeign Minister Olugbenga Ashiru. What a clown, no wonder Boko Haram doesn't recognise that kak government.
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Interesting observation. Imagine investing in a country where the slightes diplomatic spat can lead to overreaction and calls for retaliation, impounding and seizure of your businesses by the state. Typical primitive style of governance.
S.A. businesses with investments in nigeria must not expect that we as a nation,will always bend over and be kicked in the ar.se by direspectful nigerians, just bcos they invested heavily in that lawless place called nigeria. We cant be expected to watch our laws being spat on,kiss drug dealers and thieves ar.ses while they destroy our children and in the meantime those few that benefit are provided with protection from all this. Report Abuse
Mar 9, 2012
Warren
@Sukamania
Your leaders have realised this much, hence the apology being tendered on your behalf.
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Get this one clear pls,That apology is not on our behalf,but on behalf of themselves,their fatcat families,their political careers and business interests in nigeria. Period.
We are a proud nation that will not apoligize to people that seek to destroy our country with vice. Report Abuse
Mar 9, 2012
9jaBigBoy
@ 9JABOY, Please let me know where you saw the pretty SA babes in London. Do not mind some of these clueless and uncivilised haters who do not understand International Diplomacy as simple as it is. Report Abuse
Mar 9, 2012
Dzel
Warren,
S.A. businesses with investments in nigeria must not expect that we as a nation,will always bend over and be kicked in the ar.se by direspectful nigerians, just bcos they invested heavily in that lawless place called nigeria. We cant be expected to watch our laws being spat on,kiss drug dealers and thieves ar.ses while they destroy our children and in the meantime those few that benefit are provided with protection from all this.
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My concern is if the Nigeria government is not mature enough and does not have the required foresight to handle a simple situation like this as one would expect from a responsible government would then we can expect to see Nigeria throw a tantrum every time some Senator needs to make news headlines. It is not good for your country, the country you are hosting and investment in general.
When we were about to host the World Cup it was Nigeria who were telling us we will fail but after a successful tournament every African country wanted to share in the success of the tournament which is good but it does not change the fact that fellow Africans wanted to see us fail. This acrimony is not new, someone Nigeria seems to have beef with South Africa one that seems to be mo.tivated by jealously more than anything else.
If Africa is to advance we need to move past these petty politics, I would have expected better leadership from Africa one that is not reliant on blackmail or throwing your light-weight around. Nigerians just need to grow up, get over themselves and accept that we have laws that need to be respected by every visitor to our country and complied with. It is this pointless politicking that prevents Africa from moving forward. Instead of progressive engagement all we've achieved is revert back to hostilities and ordinary Nigerians seem to enjoy watching their government pick a pointless fight in the school's playground which makes one wonder.
Please let me know where you saw the pretty SA babes in London. Do not mind some of these clueless and uncivilised haters who do not understand International Diplomacy as simple as it is.
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Oh, and your government understands international diplomacy?
Do you consider throwing out people who have not done anything wrong out in a revenge attack amounts to international diplomacy?
By the way you keep on talking about our HIV rates yet you love SA women, I am honestly to hear of a South African man dating a Nigerian woman.
SA is a young nation, less than 20 yrs post-apartheid. I guess the country still has a lot of learning/ growing up to do as far as international diplomacy and basic respect for people are concerned.
Nigerian voice has a lot of weight in global affairs and represents the African continent and this will remain so for decades to come. SA will always play second fiddle to Nigeria. The earlier people realise this the better, so stop disrespecting Nigerians.
SA has acknowledged the flaw in the immigration procedure and accepted the fact that some people were deprted wrongly. Why don't you guys accept that?
Nigerians going to Europe are not expected to present Yellow fever immunization card, because there's no known case of yellow fever in Nigeria since 1995 and the Europeans know this fact. How come SA is operating with an outdated immigration procedure and has refused to be pragmatic.
There is a history of excessive abuses by South African authorities of Nigerian citizens visiting or residing in South Africa. In 2005, Nobel Laureate Wole Soyinka was denied entry into South Africa by immigration officials despite having been invited officially to speak as a guest at a lecture organised to mark former President Nelson Mandela’s birthday. Anyone with Soyinka’s pedigree would be rightly outraged to be denied entry into a country in which he was officially invited after being delayed for over eight hours at the airport.
In 2001, Nigerian Aviation Minister Kema Chikwe was detained by South Africa’s Port Health and denied entry into the country on the ground that she did not possess a valid vaccination card. When the authorities persisted that the minister must be inoculated or denied entry into South Africa, the minister told them to go and jump into the river. She maintained her stand and let the authorities know the choice before them was to let her enter the country or she would go back to Nigeria. The matter was eventually resolved.
One reason for the maltreatment of Nigerians in SA is that it is an extension of the high level of xenophobia in SA. It is no secret that Nigerians and other Africans are hated and targeted by official and unofficial groups in SA. Intolerance of foreigners is widespread in South Africa. Unfortunately, such intense dislike of foreigners is driven by the misleading impression that foreigners are taking over the jobs that South Africans ought to perform. SA people need to be hard working and compete for opportunities. There are thousands of ill-qualified SA people that are taking jobs in Nigeria through MTN and other SA companies. Rather than making lots of fuss over an error committed by your Govt, SA people need to recognise the error and move on. Report Abuse
Mar 9, 2012
9jaBigBoy
@Dzel, Listen, get over this. First, Do you think Your Foreign Affairs Ministry was wrong in apologising? Examine the facts of the case objectively and do not allow sentiments to blind your sense of reasoning. YOUR EMBASSY IN NIGERIA DO NOT ISSUE VISAS WITHOUT HEALTH CLEARANCE. In other words, for them to give visa approval, it indicates that they are satisfied that all requirements have been met.
Secondly, Under IATA rules, if a health officer at the airport is not satisfied, he can quarantine a traveller, get him to take a shot and charge him for it. That s a more rational way of doing things. You cannot deport 125 persons on a trumped up excuse and expect a handshake. Maybe Nigeria should start asking SA travellers for HIV test certificate.
Nigeria was one of the countries that championed South African's cause to end Apartheid. It s an undeniable fact. What we have is a mutual relationship. If SA companies leave Nigeria, there are more than one thousand companies that are ready to take over. With or Without SA, Nigeria will be great and without Nigeria, SA will be fine too. If Nigerians engage in illegal activities in SA, what is your police doing about it? Given, if they are caught, prosecute them according to the law and deport them.
Let s not kid ourselves, the Nigerian community in SA has made and is making great contributions to SA's economy. Economic activities have a multiplier effects and most of the time, it s a positive one. Finally, on a lighter note, SA women love Nigerian men because we know how to take care of a woman both in bed and out of bed. Also, Nigerians are hardworking. Maybe that s the real grouse some of you have against us or is it because we denied Mrs. Zuma the AU chairmanship. Report Abuse
Mar 9, 2012
Warren
Sukamania
Nigerian voice has a lot of weight in global affairs and represents the African continent and this will remain so for decades to come. SA will always play second fiddle to Nigeria. The earlier people realise this the better, so stop disrespecting Nigerians.
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I should be laughing at the above claims but my humanity forbids me to. Are you sure you are okay oga?
In exactly which stakes is S.A playing second fiddle to nigeria? In the fornication stakes which we dont want to compete for,yes, but further than that, in your dreams oga.
Sukamania again:
One reason for the maltreatment of Nigerians in SA is that it is an extension of the high level of xenophobia in SA. It is no secret that Nigerians and other Africans are hated and targeted by official and unofficial groups in SA. Intolerance of foreigners is widespread in South Africa. Unfortunately, such intense dislike of foreigners is driven by the misleading impression that foreigners are taking over the jobs that South Africans ought to perform. SA people need to be hard working and compete for opportunities.
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One reason for the alleged maltreatment of nigerians in SA is their high level of dilluisioned attitude that they have to be treated differently from other nations just because they offer huge markets for S.A. businesses. S.A. business has been thriving for years bfore the first nigerian set up tent in S.A. as recent as the 90's. In fact,the reason why nigerians flock to S.A. ,is bcos of the thriving businesses in S.A ,so lose that we have the market attitude bcos you are not even a tenth of our market.
It is no secret that nigerian southerners are the most disliked in S.A bcos they export vice and moral degeneration to other African countries and hide behind other Africans whem they are confronted. It is not unusual to hear a nigerian drug dealer or thief claim to be a victim of xenophobia and h.ate for all
Africans,when you confront him for his crime as an individual. Thats an outdated trick to gain sympathy that. Stop hiding behind other Africans bcos they are not involved in the disrespectful activities that you do in other countries.
Nigerian southerners need to recognise that they are disliked for their world renowned criminal culture and not bcos they are Africans.
S.A businesses have made great contributions to the nigerian economy,even inspiring business from other countries to venture there. Keep allowing your stupid politicians to use investors assets as political pawns and your dream to prosper will remain just a dream forever. Report Abuse
Mar 9, 2012
Warren
They claim to be progressing towards the rating of an economic powerhouse in the next few years,but their politicians uses outside investors assests as political tools for revenge at the slightest perceived provocation and they all cheer and claim victory.
LOL, what a backward bunch of commercially illiterate goons. I rest my case. Report Abuse
Mar 9, 2012
Sukamania
Warren,
What do you make of your govt. acknowledging that there was an error in the way the deportation was carried out? That some people were deported even when it was clear that their yellow cards were valid? Why don't u turn the searchlight on the process and stop attacking people.
With this sense of arrogance and pride that you guys display, Nigeria will continue to display a big brother role to you and your govt. This thing has been going on for a while but this will be the last time.
Does it surprise you when your govt had to tender an "unreserved apology" to the Nigerian people and govt and accept the errors of the of the immigration officials? Your govt said they r not expecting any similar apology from Nigeria for deporting SAfricans. Infact, they are following that up with sending a diplomat to Abuja to go and deliver a hard copy of the apology letter, with a promise to effect drastic changes and behave better next time. That's what you get when you provoke a bigger nation - global embarrassment. That's what America or UK would do to you if you treat their citizens inordinately.
I like it when Nigeria demanded that the immigration officials be punished and all the expenses of the 125 Nigerians be refunded. This is not about using investors assets as apolitical tool, it's about the fact that certian things were not done right or handled rightly and u guys have refused to see things from that point of view.
I am happy your govt officials are wiser than ur comments and saved the situation. Report Abuse
Mar 9, 2012
Yorubaman
No doubt there will be some Nigerians who will give in to sentiments of capricious triumphalism.Particularly when really there aren't that many triumphs to cheer. Not all Nigerians are like that. Sadly on this forum there are too many who give in to to the mental shorthand of generalization.Coming to this site over the last 24 hours one might think SA and Nigeria are at war! There is so much going on in the world and people on both sides of the divide really need to wake up to that.
@Warren I do not endorse it but it is naive to believe countries do not pull these levers.Freezing of assets,imposing sanctions on those who trade with those who trade with our enemies etc.Sound familiar?
South African government and no one else needs to deal with criminal Nigerians or those who are there illegally.In that effort they have my full support.If they commit crimes deserving of the death penalty by all means execute them.
There can be no excuse for generalizing from those miscreants to ALL Nigerians or justification for some of the other rabble rousing remarks on display hear e.g I h.ate Nigerians.etc
Sadly South Africans are teaching this to their kids now.
In real time it is easy to join a mob but mobs never build anything they only destroy.
To my Nigerian brethren harping on about apartheid era help; THERE IS NO DEBT so give it a rest!
Whatever might have been done was done for our own dignity and peace of mind and the payment was in the doing.South Africans would have done the same.
Peace to my SA but remember h.ate only harms the h.ater ,that has always been the case
@Sukamania.Take it easy.I find it hard to agree with you.It was an unpleasant situation for both countries.SA apologised because it was the correct thing to do.Leave the bigger nation and provocative rhetoric.It is not foolishness to be silent.
In my opinion it takes a big man or nation to say sorry.Pursuing a nihilist path was to no one's benefit and triumphalism right now is just ugly. Report Abuse
Mar 9, 2012
Yorubaman
@Dzel I agree with you that SA owes their freedom to no one but themselves ultimately that is the truth.Nigeria and many others offered solidarity in your struggles and it is my hope that Africans will continue to offer solidarity to each other till that day when we,too will stand proud among other continents.
Still I believe that if there is a failure to deal with criminal Nigerians in SA that is SA's responsibilty.
The deportation of 125 Nigerians was the WRONG solution.Those who took that action failed to consider the consequences.
If the feeling in SA is so strong now that there should be no relationship between the two countries then by all means elect a government that will effect that.Otherwise you have to manage the troublesome Nigerians without "throwing the baby away with the bath water".
As a Nigerian I admit that there are many Nigerian criminals you must take into account the fact that Nigeria has 16% of the population of Africa which may cause Nigerians to be more visible. In that regard when compared with other large population nations like India or China I don't believe that Nigerians are more criminal than these two countries e.g. We deserve to be treated as "Innocent until proven guilty " always. I believe there are more Nigerians in places like the UK or USA than SA though the numbers have grown over a much longer period and perhaps after the apartheid era immigration was allowed too rapidly.That is an issue for your government to manage by reducing the number of visas issued and ejecting illegal migrants NOT deporting those with valid visaa Report Abuse
Mar 9, 2012
Dzel
9jaBigBoy,
First, Do you think Your Foreign Affairs Ministry was wrong in apologising? Examine the facts of the case objectively and do not allow sentiments to blind your sense of reasoning.
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I am happy the government has taken a matured stance and acted in a manner that defuses tension. I am unhappy at the reaction of the Nigerian government though; I think it was childish, immature, and irresponsible not only because it seeks to bully and blackmail but because it sends a wrong message and highly inflammatory. Your government needs to grow up and act responsibly, South Africa deserves better than to be treated like a beggar who does not have access to recourse. We could have easily responded in kind and perhaps we should have but like I said it would have been rather pointless beyond stroking our egos.
I am unhappy that South Africa has been projected in negative light in Nigeria when blame should lay squarely on your citizens and your government who have created these hostilities. Right now thi has filtered down to our level, again I am not happy with attitudes displayed by your countrymen thinking Nigerians can go around bullying people as if we are incapable of hitting back and hitting back hard. You guys need to show us and our country a bit more respect. Nigeria is not the be all and end all of all matters African; you’d be best advised to remember that.
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Secondly, Under IATA rules, if a health officer at the airport is not satisfied, he can quarantine a traveller, get him to take a shot and charge him for it.
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Yellow fever shots are meant to be administered 10 days prior to your visit. The facts around this case were unpacked nicely on Soccer Africa (DSTv) last night, the issue is not whether the certificates were forged or not but rather the timing of the injections being administered and travelling before the number of days that should have lapsed before travelling to SA.
It boils down to poor planning by the delegation and all blame has been shifted towards SA which makes no sense at all. Quarantining the passengers would have caused a bigger diplomatic scandal and who foots the bill for costs incurred. Judging by the Nigerian government’s reaction they would have expected SA to carry the costs, why should we when clearly it is Nigerians who created this crisis by not following procedure and acting out when this comes back to bite them.
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If SA companies leave Nigeria, there are more than one thousand companies that are ready to take over. With or Without SA, Nigeria will be great and without Nigeria
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This is precisely what disturbs me about Nigeria. You guys need to decide whether you want investment in your country or not, if the decision is yes you need to understand investors will into operate with a gun pointed to their head at all times or whenever your politicians want to play hardball. It leaves a bitter taste in one’s mouth every time you are threatened with expulsion and this is where political maturity comes in. Deal with political problem through the right channels and stop threatening us every time you want to throw a tantrum. Trueth is we need each other; SA needs access to Nigerian markets which admittedly are huge, in return the government benefits through taxes which one assumes are used for social development. Why then do you want to make South African companies feel like beggars when all stakeholders benefit and there is as much in it for your country as there is for SA companies. You guys just need to grow up.
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If Nigerians engage in illegal activities in SA, what is your police doing about it? Given, if they are caught, prosecute them according to the law and deport them.
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Again one would expect your country to export quality citizens who represent Brand Nigeria wherever they are, it is in your interests as it is brand Nigeria that suffers. I would expect some accountability from you guys but because you pass the buck to us is it unreasonable for all Nigerians to be treated with scepticism. If you want to disown the problem that’s fine by me but don’t complain about being grouped and judged as Nigerians when you are not willing to be part of the solution.
You nationals bring problems to South Africa, it is important to approach this from that angle I cannot understand how your nation can wash its hands of actions by Nigerians.
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Let s not kid ourselves, the Nigerian community in SA has made and is making great contributions to SA's economy.
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You are talking like someone who has not been to South Africa. Stop using grand terms like “great contribution” that exposes ignorance. I ask you here and now to name the top 5 Nigerian investors in SA and quantify their investments and let’s see if they are indeed “great”. I bet you you can’t even name three yet you use these loosely and without the right information.
On South African women; some SA woman just love money and Nigerians are seen as cash cows. It has little to do with your potency in and out of the bedroom; trust me on this one.
Take it easy.I find it hard to agree with you.It was an unpleasant situation for both countries.SA apologised because it was the correct thing to do.Leave the bigger nation and provocative rhetoric.It is not foolishness to be silent.
In my opinion it takes a big man or nation to say sorry.Pursuing a nihilist path was to no one's benefit and triumphalism right now is just ugly.
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*standing ovation*
I appreciate the fact that you are objective and you try to put yourself in our sh.oes and understand our frustrations not only over the issue of deportations but also trying to understand why the negative general feelings towards Nigerians.
As a South African I do business with people of Nigerian origins. Just last week I bought an entire set of new tyres from a Nigerian dealer because I am careful of how I spend my money. I would rather spend on a black person regardless of country of origins than spend money on faceless white shareholders who take endless vacations. I have a preferred Nigerian whom I have used to fix old phones, buying vegetables etc so while I might come across as xenophobic I am actually pi-ed off by attitude in fact yesterday I was so pi-ed off I resolved not to support Nigerian businessmen.
See it cuts both ways; if you take punitive action and so can we and it will hurt so people need to be very careful of what they say because it informs opinion and even behaviour. What your government is saying can have undesirable consequences for Nigerians living in South Africa because WE are your market, not government.
As a Nigerian I admit that there are many Nigerian criminals you must take into account the fact that Nigeria has 16% of the population of Africa which may cause Nigerians to be more visible.
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Disagreed, there are far more Zimbabweans and Mozambique’s in SA perhaps more Pakistanis and Bangladeshi in SA yet they don’t give us as big a headache. See Nigerians tend to be involved in more hardcore crimes and they tend to be far more heartless and violent that all the other nations put together. Nigerians are also more destructive or atleast that is the South African experience.
To come into our country and force our young into drugs and prostitution is just unacceptable. To place false job adverts and take advantage of the fact that many of our people are unemployed and then force these young woman into being drug mules in unacceptable. The sooner Nigeria takes responsibility for their actions and starts being part of the solution little is going to change. If anything I see South Africans starting to react in kind and when Nigerians start being necklaced we will be accused of xenophobia. Own the problem now before this turns violent, we are patient people but we also know how to fight back and when we do it is not pretty.
@Dzel
Clearly you are a bigot.
How can you say Nigerians are more criminal than Indians.You are a complete ignoramus.You expect Nigerians to keep quiet while you have a field day insulting them.Have you got any survey data before you come and say Nigerians are forcing girls into prostitution?
That is your dirty urban folklore Report Abuse
Mar 9, 2012
Naijaislord
@Yorubaman I know you are never naija so stop deceiving yasef.
These idiot Saffers that say everyone smells?
Have we not seen the yansh of your dirty girls with smelly toto
Go around saying Zimbabwe smell and that one smell Report Abuse
Mar 9, 2012
Dzel
Naijaslord,
I m not sure which Indians you are talking about but South Africans of Indian origin are infamous for being businessmen than criminals. Pakistanis and Bangladeshi who have recently immigrated to South Africa are also business minded and live with blacks in townships, same thing with Ethiopians.
Perhaps you think you know more about what happens in my country than I do, in that case please enlighten me.
Regarding smells, not everyone smells but some tend to have lax hygienic standards than others. this applies to South Africans, Zimbabweans, Nigerians, whit.es, blacks, Indians, etc.
Is it too much to ask that if you are going to be using public transport for example or work in an office environment please make sure you take care of all matters hygienic and ensure you don't impose yourself on others? Surely an investment in roll-on is not too much to ask or is it?
Those comments are informed by real life observations rather than an uncontrollable urge to be xenophobic at all times.
In the whole of Africa you have greatest appetite for drugs and drink why? you are weak
Weak men with small weak penises and weak minds
Those Naija that you say are bullying you in SA those are weak Nigerians who got beaten out and can't stand the heat in Naija . I wonder how many of you Zulus can survive on the streets of any African country
check this out:
Even Italian mafia know not not to mess with us. If I told my homeboys what is going on here we'll take over 10 comments to one so watch out!! Report Abuse
Mar 9, 2012
Naijaislord
Does Nigeria manufacture cocaine or heroin or tik or the chemicals used to make drugs in SA?
Ask the Chinese about that?
For your info those criminals in SA are what we call dropouts.Could not make the grade back home even as crooks.You deserve each other and are welcome to them.Maybe they will enhance your genetic pool! Report Abuse
Mar 9, 2012
Dzel
See Naijaslord you are impressed by stupid things, what is there to be proud of when your countrymen export crime to foreign countries?
On your first point SA is in a fortunate position that we have a vibrant economy and therefore have disposable income we spend on luxuries and vices; for some its prost.itution, others drugs but to conclude SA is a nation of mass users of pr.ostitute.s or drugs is a bit short-sighted. To then expand that and compare us to the rest of Africa is not only terminally short-sighted but it amounts to a basic misunderstanding of earning power and how this influences behavior.
To answer your question though we are no better nor worse than 1st world countries comparable to SA in terms of disposal incomes, etc. do you know the amount of alcohol consumed by the British for example?
Stop being one-tracked minded, if you want to make comparison it is important to understand exactly what it is you are comparing.
Does Nigeria manufacture cocaine or heroin or tik or the chemicals used to make drugs in SA?
Ask the Chinese about that?
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You are not very bright are you Naija, I see little point in engaging you any longer as I see nothing of substance coming from you. Gotta run, enjoy your evening kind sir.
Not very bright ! Coming from a Zu1u that makes me suicidal. Yea run away before I destroy your mental infrastucture.Who unleashed you that you come charging and me with frothy drooling mouth muttering and grimacing,Are you lost? Perhaps you need a dopamine rush or something?Go see your dealer!
Quit with the lame smelly foreigner routine. You lot are quite filthy when it comes to personal hygiene.Bottom line how many litres of water do you have access to daily NOT ROLL ON Report Abuse
Mar 9, 2012
Naija4Life
Good boy saffers for apologizing...now my lie down and let me put foot over you as my footstool...then be a good boy and go and get me some beer and don't forget to bring me one of your sisters when you come back...good boy... Report Abuse
Mar 9, 2012
Naijaislord
No your economy is NOT vibrant?
By what metrics do you make such an asinine proclamation
Growth? don't be daft
Employment?You are having a laugh
I think you better give up the TIKPIPE?
And let the truth be told you my B4NTU friend whatever is good about your economy credit to the B0ER so don't gloat.
I reckon Nigerians contribute more than all ya B4ntus put together Report Abuse
Mar 9, 2012
Naijaislord
Regarding the delusion that you are a high disposable income economy. No .
The black South African is economical as unproductive and as destitute as black people every.That should concern you rather than cultivating a smug "House N1gga" mentality. The B0ER owns the SA economy
You unlike you I don't just open the hole in the skul and vomit smug fantasies.
The UN claims a qurater of your population live on less than $1.25 daily.
My dear brother black people have a problem so don't start thinking somehow you are better than the rest of us. Report Abuse
Mar 10, 2012
Police
Don't worry SA, we'll let you win the next BIG Brother Africa. Hehehehe Report Abuse
Mar 10, 2012
Omonaijanimio
Interesting thread. I am Nigerian. Live in Nigeria. Love it! Visited 11 countries in almost all continents. Worked in 3 countries (including SA) deploying technology on behalf of my global energy company (180 countries bro). Citizens of the world commit crime and also do good things wherever they find themselves. Most South Africans dont know this cos they're very simple and local. Please travel some. Why do South African women marry Nigerian men? Ask them why... hope your ego survives the answer. There are 400 SA companies here in naija. We also have several small and medium scale Nigerian companies in SA. We support the SA medical system with skilled and experienced doctors. Is SA a beautiful country? Yes. Would I live there? NO. Nigeria is also very beautiful and has limitless opportunities with the biggest market in Africa. Can Nigeria survive MTN and co leaving? They only got here yesterday. Will nationalize them in a minute. We did well without them and would continue to do so. We also have home grown Telcos (Glo, etc.) giving MTN a run for their money and also operating in other West African countries. Do we care if all Naijas in SA are deported? We are 160 million people. 4 in 10 black men is Nigerian. Who cares about illegal immigrants? Will Nigerians retaliate if even the illegals in SA are mistreated rather than being repatriated properly, if needed? Ask your government. They know. Can Nigeria go toe to toe with SA diplomatically? Ask Britain. We recently halted BA flights for messing with Arik airlines, and we kicked out the British and Nationalized BP in the 70s because of your sorry Black asses being enslaved by the Europeans. We need no favors from SA. We are no beggars - ask your women. We will survive and thrive anywhere - ask your women again. We are very loyal and proud... and SA is too inexperienced globally to mess with us. Our President is a PhD, while yours takes a bath and eats beetroot to prevent AIDS. BTW, after reading this comment, scoot to the front page of The Sowetan and see the abuses, murder, corruption, paedophilic and gerontophilic abuses being reported...were those also committed by Nigerians? Always looking for someone to blame are you? We are not Zimbabweans or any other panhandling SADAC folk. We will hit back where we can. A Nigerian did not become the richest African through BBE or apartheid era stolen lucre. Watch and learn fuckas. Report Abuse
Mar 10, 2012
Omonaijanimio
By the way, I love all South Africans...regardless of their hatred for naija folk. And all you naijas plying your trade (good or bad) in SA...they dont want you there. Please come home. Report Abuse
Mar 10, 2012
tetrasowetan
blawdy south africans always blaming others for their misfortune. I would take it yall ingrates are still teenagers and wouldn't have any clue the sacrifices naija made while y'all sorry arses were slaves in your own country. Now you have freedom of speech and you come here spewing menstrual blood outta your sorry gutter mouths. Go take lessons in history and learn kids. idiots! Report Abuse
Mar 10, 2012
lagos_boy11
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WOOHOOOOO MY RIB CRACKS I CANT STOP LAFFING AT YA ALL
WE RE THE BIGGEST BROTHER OF AFRICA AND YOU SAns DONT DARE WE WILL BEAT YOU GUYS UP EVEN IN SOUTIE AND IN NAIJA AND EVERY WHERE IN THE WORLD HIV AIDS INFECTED FOOLS WITH FATTEST BUTTS IN THE WORLD,YOU DEPORT 125NAIJAS AND WE DEPORT 168 SAns HAHAHAHAHAHAHA WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO
EVEN HERE IN CHINA SOUTHS CANT OPEN MOUTH AT NIGERIANZ HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Am a Nigerian and I've read all the comments on this blog and this really shows the deep hatred South Africans has for Nigerians, and i feel so sad. So far so good they are so many South African companies operating in Nigeria, profiting bigger than the ones in your country, e.g Mtn, Dstv, Banks etc. Moreover we also have some huge investment in your country as well. Some of my friends are from Pretoria and they are living and working in Nigeria as well and others too. Deporting 125 Nigerians, held them for 24hrs without food and water, some are little kids, infant and women and not consulting our embassy before sending them away is wrong, I have a feeling, this is not done because of yellow card but just to maltreat Nigerians. South Africans push drugs too, have HIV and commit crimes just like Nigerians, so no one is perfect and pls stop pointing fingers at us.. thank you.. Report Abuse
Mar 10, 2012
lagos_boy11
"Interesting thread. I am Nigerian. Live in Nigeria. Love it! Visited 11 countries in almost all continents. Worked in 3 countries (including SA) deploying technology on behalf of my global energy company (180 countries bro). Citizens of the world commit crime and also do good things wherever they find themselves. Most South Africans dont know this cos they're very simple and local. Please travel some. Why do South African women marry Nigerian men? Ask them why, hope your ego survives the answer. There are 400 SA companies here in naija. We also have several small and medium scale Nigerian companies in SA. We support the SA medical system with skilled and experienced doctors. Is SA a beautiful country? Yes. Would I live there? NO. Nigeria is also very beautiful and has limitless opportunities with the biggest market in Africa. Can Nigeria survive MTN and co leaving? They only got here yesterday. Will nationalize them in a minute. We did well without them and would continue to do so. We also have home grown Telcos (Glo, etc.) giving MTN a run for their money and also operating in other West African countries. Do we care if all Naijas in SA are deported? We are 160 million people. 4 in 10 black men is Nigerian. Who cares about illegal immigrants? Will Nigerians retaliate if even the illegals in SA are mistreated rather than being repatriated properly, if needed? Ask your government. They know. Can Nigeria go toe to toe with SA diplomatically? Ask Britain. We recently halted BA flights for messing with Arik airlines, and we kicked out the British and Nationalized BP in the 70s because of your sorry Black asses being enslaved by the Europeans. We need no favors from SA. We are no beggars - ask your women. We will survive and thrive anywhere - ask your women again. We are very loyal and proud, and SA is too inexperienced globally to mess with us. Our President is a PhD, while yours takes a bath and eats beetroot to prevent AIDS. BTW, after reading this comment, scoot to the front page of The Sowetan and see the abuses, murder, corruption, paedophilic and gerontophilic abuses being reported, were those also committed by Nigerians? Always looking for someone to blame are you? We are not Zimbabweans or any other panhandling SADAC folk. We will hit back where we can. A Nigerian did not become the richest African through BBE or apartheid era stolen lucre. Watch and learn fuckas".
See news tem from Sowetan. Did Nigerians also fake those licenses? Look inwards for your problems and stop stereotyping. Lazy bitches. You're just as corrupt as anyone else.
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I'll monitor Monday's news and try to find a Nigerian crime in SA. Xenophobic muthafuckas. The Hendrik and Frik's are watching to see all y'all self destruct and he takes over...And they're all over Nigeria doing business and forming alliances. Better solve your own problems and stop blaming naijas. Which reminds me...never even heard an SA citizen's voice anywhere else but SA. They're so scared when abroad. Only got big mouths on the pages of The Sowetan and on some Jozi streets. Local Champions. Come to Lagos for lessons in self confidence. Report Abuse
Mar 10, 2012
sgubhusenkwishi
@Lagos- boy11, first and foremost you have to learn the spelling sothat people can take you serious and listern to what you have to say. We dont say thread, but the right word is threat.This is one of the things that make people to think most of nigerians are fake in all forms and shape ,hence people dislike you.
Back to the point you have to stop being big headed , but listern very carefully and stop over accerting youself, we all know about Nigeria and you have got nothing new to tell the world about.If Nigeria was anywhere closer to rich countries, people would be knowing that , without you telling them, but your people being scattered by poverty all over the continent and in europe is just a proof that you have got nothing to offer.But that is not a reason why people in the world they dislike Nigeria, the whole thing is about the manner in which your national conduct themselves, which might be acceptable as a way of life to you responding to your condition but the outside world cannot accept corruption and people living with decepting tactics.
Your nationals that were deported from south africa ,that was done based on our rules re - infection controll, nothing else , not your investments , politics or any other issues. You have chosen to politicise the very simple and straight forward issue , to prove the ungovernability of your kind. We know in africa Nigeria might have been liberated for decades than most of the african countries , the governance issue is still your biggest challenge more than any other countries. Your country is at war with its own citizens based on that fact, so we dont need to be a part of that. However we wont let you meddle with the way we govern our own country. So keep on dreaming as much as you want as a biggest country in africa , if that is what make you happy but on the ground you appear as a clawling nation. You have to get your fact straight to earn our respect. At the moment you have got nothing to show off about and nobody can in his full and sober senses can take any lesson from nigeria , cause there is unfortunately none. Report Abuse
Mar 10, 2012
sgubhusenkwishi
Some of you are bussy worrying themselves about our national papers and our citizens, instead of paying attention to their own corrupted nationals back home. Nobody said we are perfect ,hence we subject ourselves to corrections and discipline if need be , hence we are getting better everyday. We are not denialist , without directions who turn to be the world undesirable nosense. Report Abuse
I don't blame anyone of you South African slowpoke. What the Nigerian government should do from now on is to test all South African passenger coming to Nigeria for HIV and AIDS and then detain them until the result comes out. And if you tested positive, you are going to be prosecuted and sent to prison on Nigeria soil for malicious intent to infect Nigerian population with deadly disease. Yellow fever Vs HIV and Aids, Wondered which is more deadly and humiliating. Report Abuse
Mar 10, 2012
Occultist
A country where 1 out of every 2 persons is HIV +ve is complaining about Yellow fever?
this is precious, Report Abuse
Mar 10, 2012
Occultist
IF NOT FOR NELSON MANDELA ALONE,MAYBE NIGERIA GOVERNMENT SHOULD ASK S.A GOVERNMENT TO PAY BACK ALL MONEY,AND RESOURCES WASTED ON GETTING THEM OUT OF APATHY ERA,FOR 27 SOLID YEARS. UNGRATEFUL ANIMALS Report Abuse
Mar 10, 2012
kenzohh
You guys here with all your racist and stupid comments. You are ungrateful animals, ileterate and stupid. You should pay back for all the support you did get during apartheid. I get the feeling you deserved apartheid.
And what kind of newspaper allows that kind of racist comments on their site? This country is in such a mess thanks to folks like you. You don't deserve better... Report Abuse
Mar 10, 2012
sgubhusenkwishi
If you can just do south africans a favour , just mind your stinking business and forget about south africans, we really dont care about you and we dont wanna know about you, but you are like a sh- it sticking to our sho es and causing a lot of nuisance. We really dont interfere with your domestic affairs because they are not good news to us.
You just have to carry on being big headed and dreaming as big brothers in africa , but your people are dying of poverty back home on those stinking dirty sanitary slums, your kids are being murdered by your deluded people who call them witches within your dirty religious beliefs , there are really many things you should be worried about if you were in sober senses, than halucinating as african big brothers under influence of whonga. Your president might be having what you assume as phd, but his leadership is non productive and even our president cannot be compared to yours with his leadership , so all those things translate to the degree of fakeness and forgery state of your affairs. There is again no evidence based on your faked false assumption that you have helped south africa at any point.
Anyway I have to stop waisting my time debating with none starters, but at least if Gana from the western countries was claiming something, I would lend them my ear because of the legacy of their big leaders like Nkwame nkruma , but should I really give any credity to your leaders , who had a reputation of corruptions of such scales within the african continent, who stole money and invest it to Switzerland when their people are starving and dying of the worst poverty , what are you really on about? No amount of delutions would give you credit, cherity begins at home. Start by looking after your poor before you tell us your ferry tales. You are just waisting your time with us here the B.H. is taking over your country back home, that is what you should be worried about. Report Abuse
Mar 10, 2012
Omonaijanimio
Sgubhusenkwishi: Bloody illiterate. Cant even spell to save your life. No wonder your health minister was advocating beetroot as a cure for AIDS.
You all think you're smarter than your government right? You think they should have continued their puerile grandstanding, etc? Well, sorry to inform you...they're smarter than you.
White South Africans are all over Nigeria forming alliances to be harnessed when you all blacks self destruct from your ignorance and laziness. A country where some people think National ID is a Passport. lol.
Sgubhusenkwishi reminds me of all those blue coveralls riding in small bakkies driven by 19 yr old white boys being ferried to do some menial job. Face your problems and leave Nigerians alone. We're on a whole different level. Not like your Ghaddafi loving president. Report Abuse
Mar 11, 2012
Naijaislord
sigu is that really a name or were your parents just fascinated with the alphabet?
Why have a go at Nigerians? Are you so filled with self-loathing?Suicidal?
You should know you are out of your depth. You lack the cerebral resource K@ffir boy.
I h,ate to burst your bubble but you guys are developmentally at the bottom of the food chain as far as b1ack Africans are concerned. Don't gloat about the economy you inherited from your B0ER lords.You are on course to be the next Zimbabwe.
Our position is a very simple one you can have a bilateral relationship with us or not.No petulance,no foaming at the mouth nor any other juvenile tantrums. You throw any stones we throw rocks.
It is not really Nigerians you h,ate nor Zimbabweans,Zambians etc its yourselves and it makes you feel better to want to be Baas to other B1acks. Nigerians won't play or indulge your delusions.
First you need to get your heads into a place where the B0er ain't BAAS that ain't gonna happen any time soon is it?He got you well trained.. Report Abuse
Mar 11, 2012
Naija4lyfe
I am shocked and appalled by some of the comments made by our supposed African "brothers" and "sisters." Indigenous South Africans remain a people who have colonized minds. To think they would insult Nigerians whose various groups created empires and kingdoms, compared to South Africans who did not even establish the kind empires and kingdoms that were found in West Africa is laughable. At least in Nigeria we had the mighty Benin Empire, Sokoto Caliphate, Oyo Empire, and Nri Kingdom. What did your people ever create? Report Abuse
Mar 11, 2012
coolzeal
Am a Nigerian and i will never h#te SA or anyone who is black, after all scientist has said humanity started in Africa, probably South or East Africa. We black people as a whole has suffered tremendously both in ancient time or this day, we're consider slaves, primitive, mocked, ridicule, judged, colonize, i can go on but our uniqueness is our sweet blackness, our melanin. We as people of the cradle of civilization must rise up, wake up from mental slavery that is causing the disunity of black people.. Pls i advice all of you to watch and learn, http://youtu.be/RC_cyL4VF6o or rather research Dr cheik Anta Diop, Dr Ivan Van Sertima, Dr. John Henrik Clarke.. Thank you.. Report Abuse
Mar 11, 2012
coolzeal
Am a Nigerian and i will never dislike SA or anyone who is black, after all scientist has said humanity started in Africa, probably South or East Africa. We black people as a whole has suffered tremendously both in ancient time or this day, pls watch on youtube or rather research Dr cheik Anta Diop, Dr Ivan Van Sertima, Dr. John Henrik Clarke. thank you... Report Abuse
Mar 11, 2012
coolzeal
Am a Nigerian and i will never dislike SA or anyone who is black, after all scientist has said humanity started in Africa, probably South or East Africa. We black people as a whole has suffered tremendously both in ancient time or this day, pls watch on youtube or rather research Dr cheik Anta Diop, Dr Ivan Van Sertima, Dr. John Henrik Clarke. thank you... Report Abuse
Mar 11, 2012
Naijapikin
HIV infested ingrates trying to play tough with Naija, dem born una well? Report Abuse
Mar 12, 2012
YarePeepsUnreasonablehere!
Yaresomepeepssounreasonable when it comes to dealing with other citizens here in SA! People do u realize that we South Africans have the accumulation of Deadly Diseases in Africa? If other countries were to b demanding or testing travelers on-the-spot I bet you perhaps 70% of SA travelers will definitely b deported everyday! Don't you think most of these officials we have at keep places are not even abreast enough to scrutinize themselves let more others? I tell you our environment is too hostile to our fellow African brothers! Imagine if HIV/AIDS n TB were used to judge people into traveling, SA citizens will b the most deported travelers the world-over! So lets think b4 we crucify others! Report Abuse
Mar 12, 2012
Genusa
WHY SOUTH AFRICA APOLOGISED:
I am Nigerian and I beleive SA is the wiser one in this diplomatic row. They only apologized to protect the SA businesses in Nigeria. South Africa has exploited the Nigeria economy and set up fast growing blue chip companies. The few I know of includes: MTN, DSTV MULTICHOICE, SHOPRITE, AND KFC.
I do not think Nigeria has similar blue chip business set up in South Africa, except for drugs and scams. Right or Wrong. It is negative.
If the row continues, SA will have more to loose.
As it stands now SA has successfully allowed Nigeria to ride in pride, while SA businesses booms. If you ask me, I will take the later anytime.
Sometimes in life, you have to stoop to conquer. It doesn't make you the weak one. But the wise one. Report Abuse
Mar 12, 2012
sgubhusenkwishi
Naijas , big brothers nation ,self obesessed with egos, but ignorant as you are of your brain damaged cells that fail you to make right judgements, I pity you. You have got no reason to know my name because of simple facts that you dont know my langauage, and I cant pretend to share the same brain damage cells with you and blame you for your low reasoning , but sticking to your egos, I dont know either the meaning of your fu ckin odd names, but , is not newsworthy to me because I have got reason not to, as I dont speak your language, so stop your childish tempertantrums.
You are very very naive thinkers and foreign to the truths and you think the sun is revolving around your heads. Proper countries make rules and policies and officials are employed to execute them without political bravados that you are playing, that is why your people are deported everywhere in the world, UK, USA,Australia, France, German, Italy,canada and here in Africa, but you are in denial and you dont want to learn or worst unteachable characters.This applies to every foreign nationals but others accept it because they are not deluded, they live in reality.So they know that ,that is done based on solid reasons.
Diseases that you gamble with and try to politicise are not used to prosecute people,but countries are following protocols set up by WHO to ensure that diseases are controlled and not unnecessarilly spread.Hence no country use hiv/aids, TB, and other transimitable diseases to prosecute people, as long as those people have followed the protocols, like proper immunisation evidence, people being on treatment,therefore no risk to spread diseases. But there is ofcourse problems with denialists, who flaut and fake such procedures for short cuts and politicise them to be exempted and get preferential treatment to other people whilst imposing the risk to other nations. So we have to know these things and stop being stupids , claiming to know it all.You better ask for medical advise if you are medical ignorent as you sound.Which is a big embarrassment to the world we live in.
Most of you are just making noice without rationals, your countries are not giving the real disease stats, hence they want to make us believe that you dont have Tb, hiv/aids, malaria etc, that is not right, and dangerous, posing a bigger risk than those countries that give the accurate statistics. Most of your people live in South africa where there is a higher risk of aids and they share their lives with every one without limits, and you are claiming that you are clean, how stupid and ignorant that tabulations sound, dont take us for granted , get your facts rights. Most of your nationals are drug traffickers and drug users, drug users are the most risk imposers when it comes to hiv/aids, that is research based facts, but you still want to scare the world to bend to your denials and naivity.
You jump the wagon many times claiming africanism without substance, as if when you are an african you deserve to share ignorency with everyone.
Zimbabwe has its policies, like nationalisation and indeginisation of properties and businesses without compensation, most of our businesses have lost there, but no one went to this extent to make unsolicited noice because its their country and their policies, we cant change them, we accept that we are foreigners in that part of a region , we have to accept and abide by their rules, or leave them if we feel uncomfortable with their take. We cant claim to be plastic big brothers to every countries , that one is rubbish.
The current research based facts is there is no cure for HIV/AIDS, statistics says the rate of peolpe living with hiv/aids is on increase in Uk, USA, german, China and other countries who are well equiped economical, but you being Nigeria and failling even to treat diabetes mellitus, you claim to be Hiv/aids clean country, being such a big immigratting nation, how rediculous is that? Are you living in fantacy? Report Abuse
Mar 12, 2012
Naijaislord
verbigeration!
honestly you do not expect any sane person to read your twaddle.
Just sum it up
You H4te Nigerians.
I will tell something gratis. It makes no difference to anything. We love ourselves,believe in ourselves and people reckon with us. Something you can never say for yourself.Did the BAAS unleash you so early in the day?You come out "schnauzkrampf" chompimg at the bit.Find another target for your vitriol.We are not coevals.
What is "Ignorency" by the way? B4NTU word?
Find a brick wall and knock your head against it as hard as you can Report Abuse
Mar 13, 2012
sgubhusenkwishi
What is ignorency by the way? not easy to teach an unteachable people like, Naijaislord. But as an experienced person I would try my best. Naija , get a mirror of your size, and height , walk straight facing it you will see the best example of an ignorant ugly bastard man and you will know the answer.
Maar dit is so moelike om n bobejaan se hard klipkop te verander of te leer ken nie. Report Abuse
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Mtho'eng'nanqondo
Pu#sies!!!Report Abuse
tumzangwana
i give up. s.a gov. ke machwega fela a dibari. nxa!Report Abuse
RobinH
Say no more. Bunch of indecisive spineless wimps.Report Abuse
Candyboy
“We were the first to not allow Nigerians and it is proper that we apologise and we are not expecting the Nigerian government to apologise to us,” said Ebrahim.what a po3s this GOVT is..............Our own GOVT has just humiliated us, the nation, in front of the whole world.....i'm sick at the thought we are run by spineless sheep....this should be a clear message to all SA People.....our GOVT is being raped by the 9ja's and they dont give a furk about you on the street.....Politics, Business and Greed is the order of the day.
There we have it...SA is the furken laughing stock of Africa....now it is official and for all to see
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MommaC
Where did the other article go?For the poop who said that Nigeria has been cleared by WHO
They DEFINITELY haven't
http://www.who.int/ith/chapters/ith2011annexs.pdf
http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/yellowbook/2012/chapter-3-infectious-diseases-related-to-travel/yellow-fever.htm
They are still a high risk country which is probably because your government thinks that hong fong vaccination certificates will protect you from the disease.
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Shredder
@Mtho'eng'nanqondo - You are right about that one, pussies. They don't take out and apologize to us for the eToll. Agg sorry, eThievery.Report Abuse
sh!tFaceSamsung
I don't feel sorry for those bastard nigerians : actually we hv to longe attack on them insteed they apologised: pathethic: pela our govrnment is useless when it comes to intanational mattersReport Abuse
witklaps
exactly, the sa-gove are a bunch pu'ssy'sand a bunch bullies punching way above their IQ weight. nigeria -1 s/africa 0
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KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
Not enough,disburse all their spent money and give them emotional abuse compensation on top.Report Abuse
MORNACHIESS
Let's remove Zomeeer now gud people !Report Abuse
RobinH
Samsung: Inane talk of attacking people is just so useless. Helps no-one.Report Abuse
Crown
What the F@%K! Sorry for what? For protecting our health? I thought that was the best thing to do in the first place.Report Abuse
WordofGod
yeepii! let them come back....Report Abuse
Candyboy
Where did the other articles go......those threads were interesting....!Nigeria 1 - SA & Sowetan 0
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TKay
mxm...this is bull - our government is so stupid, no wonder this foreigners think that they own our countryReport Abuse
dimpho_4U
KatakataEmaotoAditshepeNot enough,disburse all their spent money and give them emotional abuse compensation on top.
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Kata Sir,u are being impossible...after being caught with "fake" yellow fever documents..we still have to apologise to them...now this license to do as you wish!!!
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Khulza
Shame on our spineless government. What price must we pay for the AU chairmanship. Do we have to go this lenght to appease these good-for-nothing ppl ?Next time they will demand that all their drug peddling nationals must never be arrested in this country. Already they stand in street corners of our cities brazenly and openly selling drugs.
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iPhone4
Lamagwala lawa n.xReport Abuse
Ayobas
WTF, SA Gov buyyyyyyy skelem sis, nxa. Are they, those muder-fcuker going to apologise for what they also did to SAs, bliksems, idiot anc led gov...Report Abuse
witklaps
@sh!tFaceSamsungi would feel sorry for you, all you want to do is fight them nigerians, but your government let them in, just like they let in the zimbabweans, dont blame nigerian brothers and sisters, blame the an'c
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KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@dimpho_4UKatakataEmaotoAditshepe
Not enough,disburse all their spent money and give them emotional abuse compensation on top.
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Kata Sir,u are being impossible...after being caught with "fake" yellow fever documents..we still have to apologise to them...now this license to do as you wish!!!
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Apology means acceptance that u wronged.
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Fizas
does this mean now Nigerians they can continue coming into the country without yellow slips????Report Abuse
Danger1985
@ MommaC looks like they removed the article it was degenerating into what we can call a fist fight. The SA gvt should make the playing ground equal and apologize to all African states that have heard their nationals denied entry into South Africa. They all so need to clarify to the South Africa nation whether these certificates were fake or not...At the end of the day as well let us not forget that SA is benefitting from "some" oil in Nigeria (some is manufactured by SASOL) and that is key to the relationship maybe that is why they have apologized...I feel that it was unnecessary and is evidence that the foreign affairs ministry needs to be revamped!!!Report Abuse
Candyboy
@WordofGodyeepii! let them come back....
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What interest do you have in them....fake pastors and fake god......futsek man.
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Khulza
Now what will I say when a Nigerian bastard says to me "You South Africans are stupid and your government is afraid of us " .Report Abuse
sakhomba
bunch of Nigerian booty scratchersReport Abuse
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
SA will learn to attend matters professionally not Gautengnally and Kznnally.Report Abuse
sakhomba
abo ma kgway'indunu.Report Abuse
eKasi
@Khulza am with u, More are still coming to SA, imagine how many of this ppl are in their country, Nigerian gov. is unleashing the to come SA, Their gov. ministers, pastors operating in the name of god sell drugs as well. Shame SA gov, U all have no eggs.Report Abuse
sh!tFaceSamsung
but out off all of these i blame tata Rolihlahla Mandela: is the main cos of these kwerekwere: come in & out as they please nxa!Report Abuse
100%Boer
Nci nci nci coward bastard SA government.What were those Naijas coming to do here?
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Missynj
Indeed AU Chairmanship. We suffer because of AU chair. West Africans hates people of the South. Why do we have to beg or apologise for?Report Abuse
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@WordofGodyeepii! let them come back....
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SAn need Jesus in their lives kapa jwang?
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Msola321
Our own Government betrayed us....so pissed...tlaaReport Abuse
DJWinner
Apologising for them to come here and feed us their drugs? Apologising for them to come here and make our sisters sex slaves? Apologising for them to come here and rob us with their scams?Report Abuse
Danger1985
@ Fizas it means they can continue coming to SA with fake certificatesReport Abuse
dimpho_4U
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe@dimpho_4U
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
Not enough,disburse all their spent money and give them emotional abuse compensation on top.
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Kata Sir,u are being impossible...after being caught with "fake" yellow fever documents..we still have to apologise to them...now this license to do as you wish!!!
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Apology means acceptance that u wronged.
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who wronged who??? ...you travel with fake papers and my country has to apologise for your little"419 fong kong scams" ....that went wrong,,how slow
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MommaC
Danger1985It is just crazy that we could become a country with yellow fever because some snitsy little farrt in Lagos got his knickers in a twist because we didn't accept fake certificates, If the Nigerian government paid more attention to it's own health rules then they wouldn't even be on the list.
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NDA
They dont respect us but they are scared of makwerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.Report Abuse
untinigerian
So this Nigerian official insults our President and our own government apologises?Report Abuse
candilious
@Jaja'sQueen- dO YOU HAV ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT YOUR BELOVED ANC NOW.Report Abuse
rasefatee
apologising for what Ebrahim o barry o mshishi aai we are being led by cowards here where is juju mara to tell the bastard to get out of our coutry with their illness nxaaReport Abuse
tumzangwana
this stupid f*cken gov. puts foreigners above its own citizens again? f*ck ......Report Abuse
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@dimpho_4UKatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@dimpho_4U
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
Not enough,disburse all their spent money and give them emotional abuse compensation on top.
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Kata Sir,u are being impossible...after being caught with "fake" yellow fever documents..we still have to apologise to them...now this license to do as you wish!!!
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Apology means acceptance that u wronged.
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who wronged who??? ...you travel with fake papers and my country has to apologise for your little"419 fong kong scams" ....that went wrong,,how slow
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Those who apologise,SAn wena Dimpho.
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KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@candilious@Jaja'sQueen- dO YOU HAV ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT YOUR BELOVED ANC NOW
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Nigeria and SA dear not A N C.
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Uncompromising
China, Nigeria, Zim ?????? Who will be next to squeeze our scrotums? We gave Mswati money, for what? Lesotho's horse-riding-blanket-wearing army whipped us with our big machines years back. Whats going on with SA maar? F*ck E-tolling and Labour brokers, i say we carry arms and defend ourselves properly. This sh*t is not going to fly on my watch, really now. This is embarrassing!Report Abuse
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@tumzangwanathis stupid f*cken gov. puts foreigners above its own citizens again? f*ck ......
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Tumi tlohela ho rohaka bana bao beso wena maan.
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RobinH
It's okay. Don't worry folks. Tomorrow they'll backflip again and deny it all. We've seen the way things work. It wasn't us. Not what we meant. Irresponsible journalists misquoted us.Report Abuse
Candyboy
Let us not rest and leave this matter unresolved.....the anc led govt will pay for this sh!t......e-tolls will be blown apart and the deportation of 9ja's will be taken off on the street......futsek to anc-led GOVT......!Report Abuse
FANK
Yerr our government is Fucked.... change is needed why apologyReport Abuse
patyaba1
The South African government today apologised to Nigeria for deporting Nigerian nationals accused of trying to enter the country with fake yellow fever certificates.Report Abuse
somaartakeit
who is paying for this? ordinary SAns have no access to basic health care and now we are providing healht care to the world, BS at its best!!!! SAn gov must protect our interests against ppl who come here as health tourists, everyone must know by now what such practice did to the UK national health,Report Abuse
witklaps
@tumzangwanayou did'nt really think you were important did you? because you not, the only time any south african becomes important is when its time for the nation to vote, vote like stuupids for the beloved anc
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WordofGod
@keanna ke ya ba rata. ke batho ba Modimo
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somaartakeit
@patyaba1The South African government today apologised to Nigeria for deporting Nigerian nationals accused of trying to enter the country with fake yellow fever certificates.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------And there's blerry well big chance that said certificates are fake we should be grateful to our border police cause they didn't something right for once in their lives, unfortunately the p#ssies in the gov are shyte scared to protect our rights and our tax, nxa
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dimpho_4U
@KatakataEmaotoAditshepe,next time avoid making sentimental decisions and judgements when travelling to a foreigner country ...follow protocol and procedure.I dare you to travel with fake documents to Australia or China and say we are :" brothers and sisters"Report Abuse
witklaps
eveyone bitches and moans about the apology from the south african government, bitch and moan about etolls but you stuupid fickin idiotss keep voting anc, you deserve to sufferReport Abuse
DJWinner
Biggest mistake this government has ever made. We must organize a strike for this....Report Abuse
BEULAH
Gosh whats wrong with this country!!!!! is the government really blind to the malady that these foreigners are causing???? must SA always be beggin? who's apologising for the whole nation of nagerians that is here ruinin our country? just west street kempton park alone its lagos!!!....really whats wrong with this government??!!??!! its quite clear we must be africa's playground ende makwerekwere a a bona are so blloody rude and ungrateful!! we are truly a laughing stock...........i've always voted ANC and bcoz i'll never vote another party i will never vote again to have such a weak government that cant take a stand nxah!!! #so tired of foreignerd and particularly nigerians!!! when i walk down the street, i even forget im christian and cant help swearing when they start sayin hello sisi...hello sisi my foot...why cant they go back to nigeria!!....oh by the way its because we have a stupid government!!Report Abuse
sh!tFaceSamsung
witklaps@sh!tFaceSamsung
i would feel sorry for you, all you want to do is fight them nigerians, but your government let them in, just like they let in the zimbabweans, dont blame nigerian brothers and sisters, blame the an'c
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zimbabweens are far better than nigerians: they don't sell drugs, do child traffiking, money making scum : so zim's are much better
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dimpho_4U
typo..i meant "foreign country"Report Abuse
MORNACHIESS
Even the Zimbos must go back and let Mr know it all lead the way !Report Abuse
Live1030
Stupid S.A government how do you apologise to someone who is trying to access your facility without proper documents??? mxm I give upReport Abuse
SKYBLACK
FOR EACH AND EVERY SOUTH AFRICAN SEND BACK THE COUNTRY SHOULD SEND 100 FOR EACH SA RESIDENTS. THIS NIGERIANS ARE MORE THAN US IN OUR OWN COUNTRYReport Abuse
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@dimpho_4U@KatakataEmaotoAditshepe,next time avoid making sentimental decisions and judgements when travelling to a foreigner country ...follow protocol and procedure.I dare you to travel with fake documents to Australia or China and say we are :" brothers and sisters"
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Protocol and procedure have been followed by our fellow brothers and sisters o bua eng wena that's why SA passed the apology to Nigerian Gov.
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MommaC
witklapsSo what is your opinion about allowing people (from anywhere) into the country with fake yellow fever certificates?
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KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@MORNACHIESSEven the Zimbos must go back and let Mr know it all lead the way !
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Hei wena thola man maan.
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tumzangwana
@witklapsand then wena mr know it all who told you that i vote for the anc huh?
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RobinH
Mornachies: Please get it into your thick skull that I am a South African born and bred with a Zimbabwean partner. Hell, you're a slow learner. Even a sleeping sheep could do better.Report Abuse
MommaC
KatakataEmaotoAditshepeJirrie but you are a stirrer of note. Do you ever actually put your own beliefs down or do you just always try to find a way to be arbitrary?
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Malady
Now they'll come as if their parents are here,i'm nt surprised e.g.they take minister of transport to be minister of education they dnt care whthr tht person knows the job or wht,look at ths nigerians on the streets they pretend as if their selling but they drugs even police knws abt bcs they'r friends,whn they'r broke they collect money frm them,shame on SA banana republic & cowards sisReport Abuse
WordofGod
@nigerianswe are sorry. tumza, kea and myself are sorry. sorry neh! sorry!
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sh!tFaceSamsung
KatakataEmaotoAditshepeam afraid why don't u relocate in nigeria once and for all : cos can c ur wifee is nigerian
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KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@MommaCKatakataEmaotoAditshepe
Jirrie but you are a stirrer of note. Do you ever actually put your own beliefs down or do you just always try to find a way to be arbitrary?
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E nngwe ya tsona!
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YNOTY
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Khulza
The South African government has committed the biggest post-apartheid democratic blunder. LAst week we heard that some five Malawian soccer players were turned back because they didn't have same documentation and this hardly made news. The MAlawian govt never complained.Now come the Nigerians who add absolutely no value to our economy and our government is made to apologize to a government that is struggling to bring any semblance of sanity in their own country. When will our govt realize that the mere reason that there are so many Nigerians here is simply because there is no effective government in that part of the world ? The people masquerading as leaders there are nothing but big time thieves no different to the drug-selling scum they export to our country.
Sani Abacha ruled for a mere 2 years but when he died he had stolen $USD 750 million. And still our govt think this is a country that deserve any respect.
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MommaC
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe??? sorry but I'll need a translator for that one
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KeRataBasadi
Theres just no hole big enough for me to hide my embarrassment, its official, our government is privatised and hell of a p#ssy.Report Abuse
Wozanami
@nigeriansFrm: SA Govt
ofc we are very sorry, please don't stop selling us oil. -.-
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KeRataBasadi
Theres just no hole big enough for me to hide my embarrassment, its official, our government is privatised and he11 of a p#ssy.Report Abuse
witklaps
@MommaC@tumzangwana
my opinion mommaC is some carry hiv, some carry yellow fever others carry drugs - so what, rather have a nigerian carrying yellow fever than a south african carrying a AK during his robbery,
and tumzangwana, it makes all the sense you vote anc, stop pretending you dont
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tumzangwana
dimpho_4U@katakata wena, o tlo tswele pele o bue o tla bona ho tla etsahalang
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mo jwetse wena dimpho. o bajtla iketsa beter koffie a ntse a bua potsa mo.
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KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@tumzangwana@kataka
wena nare ba go jisitse korobela na? le gale ke your brothers and sisters in the lord they sell drugs in neh?
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SAn is full of rapists,robbers,killers ,lot of arbotions and women k*ll infants may be that make it better than other Africans countries.
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tumzangwana
@witklipsand wena tikiline how do you know that i vote for anc since you think you know everything?
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mthosam
This is a very stup!d thing, Anyway, lets establish what brought them here. were those certificate real fakes,then if yes, we have all right to deport them. you stup!t SA stop going to this chaotic countries. if South Africa is soory, thye must tell us on what grounds, deporting is not a problem as long as we do a rigth thing. oh my Africa. SA is a B!TCH, COME ALL aFRICANS AND HAVE f*CK.Report Abuse
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@MommaCKatakataEmaotoAditshepe
??? sorry but I'll need a translator for that one.
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May be one of the two.
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tumzangwana
@katakaexactly the point why we dont these pips to come and make the crime stats to shoot through the roof. we got enough ish to deal with ntate when it comes to crime, we dont need machwega to come and make things worse.
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Uncompromising
I wish Malema can take this one up but he just wants mines and sh*t. We can`t all be as fat as Khulubuse Zuma, wena Malema setlatla !Report Abuse
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@sh!tFaceSamsungKatakataEmaotoAditshepe
am afraid why don't u relocate in nigeria once and for all : cos can c ur wifee is nigerian.
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I'm a pure SAn who dont withstand sh!t and my wiife too.
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MommaC
witklapsDo you realise that this stupid minister is putting Nigeria at risk too?
They are currently an 'at risk' country but if they start allowing people to wonder in and out without a yellow fever certificate, they could easily become an 'active risk' country. A fake certificate doesn't protect you from a disease
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SKIZOBANTWANA
There's no logic in this.. why apologise_when these people had used fake documents..? hhhh jeeerReport Abuse
WordofGod
@tumzatlogela go stressa mann! bona o tswa metlhagare mo di lipsing....lol!!
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MORNACHIESS
@RobinH,Now u are singing a different tune ,the other day u said u are from that country .....
Entlik who are u trying to fool ?
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KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
Africans must unite not treating each others like sh!t we all brothers and sisters,there are no oceans dividing african countries.Report Abuse
DJWinner
This government yas'jwayela yazi? Seis! what are they doing now? Can't they see the demage these people are causing to us? What are we begging from Nigerians? Drugs?Report Abuse
witklaps
@MommaCyes but as you said earlier south africa is not in the yellow fever belt / or list of countries, therefore according to you south africans are safe and need not worry or be checked, so why all the fuss, its only nigerians dying in nigeria neh?
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nondy
Dear Juju BabyWhere are you when we need you the most? please avail yoself and tell nigerian government wht you think of them. When you done with them, This Ibrahim Something guy and his crew to go hang themselves and force all Nigerian to go back home. pls pls pls pls plssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
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dimpho_4U
he banna! kataka,re utlwile hee,we shall unite in rightfulness but fake I.d's,drugs,stealing, scamming and illegal immigrants we are divided.doneReport Abuse
sh!tFaceSamsung
KatakataEmaotoAditshepeif you & your wifee r pure SA as u claim fine: r u awere that nigerian r muddle our beatiful country left,ryt,center : or unless off cos if do have some king of dirty business with them
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tasty
Sorry for what, what were they coming for in the first place, there's more to be deported, come to Orange Grove Please there's a lot of them, just that we'll be left with our SA men with their small d**cks, eish, PROBLEMReport Abuse
rasefatee
is this guy wearing nappies who is his advisor nxaa what is he aoplogising for tell them to put their house in order finishReport Abuse
Jaja'sQueen
Been busy with the schools drama, didn't see this one! Shi.t!Report Abuse
GoodiesPheladi
Aowa bathong. Something needs to be done. This is totally unacceptable. Mogwete wa Zuma maan!!Report Abuse
MommaC
witklapsWhat kind of fuckedup logic is that?
Do you take some kind of perverse delight in the idea of people dying a painful death via liver failure?
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witklaps
@KatakataEmaotoAditshepewho are you kidding foool, yesterday it was them poor zimbabweans, today the poor nigerians and tomorrow when theirs is no one else out there, it could be you and gogo, ifp, wites or colouredss.
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candilious
@KatakataEmaotoAditshepe@candilious
@Jaja'sQueen- dO YOU HAV ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT YOUR BELOVED ANC NOW
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Nigeria and SA dear not A N C.
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Stil boils down to one rotten tamato
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KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@sh!tFaceSamsungKatakataEmaotoAditshepe
if you & your wifee r pure SA as u claim fine: r u awere that nigerian r muddle our beatiful country left,ryt,center : or unless off cos if do have some king of dirty business with them.
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U'r a drunkard I can see.
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Khulza
Dear fellow South Africans.Let us just accept that we have a USELESS govt in power. For too long we have been living in denial. Our ministers are just too happy to occupy the positions they occupy. As long as they can go to all these corrupt African countries and be treated like VIPs it is all good for them. As long as they are heaped with all hypocritical and self serving praise by other African countries for being "good leaders" of the African continent it is fine with them and to hell with us.They don't give a damn about us - the people who put them in power. They don't experience the daily real life challenges we go through, they live in leafy surbubs and are driven around with three bodyguards and insulated from all the daily despairs and hardships that ordinary SAns go through. They have come to take their own people for granted. All they do is aspire for lofty ideals of "leading" Africa at whatever expense of their "own"people.
No wonder these foreigners, especially the Zimbabweans and Nigerians, never stop to call us stupid even though we never run away into their countries in our millions. Our people are today unemployed because of them. They do crime in front of us and say to our face there is nothing our government can do about it. Some of them even have the cheek to demonstrate naked in our country about things that have nothing to do with us hurling abuse to the very same weak people we call our "leaders".
This very yesterday hundreds of thousands of South Africans marched across the country demanding the govt to listen to their grievances. So far no official response has been issued by the govt yet they are so quick to issue an unnecessary apology to a useless foreign govt.
Our govt must remember one thing. One day is one day. The sad thing is that this government is unwittingly stoking the fires of xenophobic attacks that happened a few years ago. And should this happen I doubt if they will be able to quell it.
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BEULAH
becoz we cant resort to xenophobic violence but we have the english vocab and electronic mail....cant we send an email to DIRCO and DHA to voice our dissatisfaction at the sky rocketing number of foreigners in our country especially becoz the foreigners we have are not looking at serving both our and their interest, its about them. forinstance instead of feeding a huge population with social grants, why not get rid of the pakistan, subsidise south africans in starting spaza shops and have them feed themselves! nigerians bona ga ke sa buwa let those things go back home and let their minister who dared calls us unfriendly n unafrican do something with them!!! SA should learn something from nigeria....they didnt hesitate to turn back our ppl bcoz of the incident but how many times has nigerians wronged this country and they are still flocking to it without even that apology SA was quick to send!!! let them their oil withReport Abuse
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@witklaps@KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
who are you kidding foool, yesterday it was them poor zimbabweans, today the poor nigerians and tomorrow when theirs is no one else out there, it could be you and gogo, ifp, wites or colouredss.
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Se ke wa nnyela wena maan,who're u Mr Sir?
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Candyboy
@ tasty....i will paint you with the same brush i painted serobapi!pi with earlier......FYI....serobap!pi and 95% of the b!tches on this blog....add tasty to that list....are one of those woman who cant debate sh!t...all they think about is d!ck and BJ....no common sense or any form of comprehension.....trust me...this whole debate will now turn into whose d!ck is bigger and who wants to prove to serobap!pi (add tasty), they can fcuk her brain cells back to life.......*YAWN*
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one_naija
@Dzel and other ignorant South africans here,What your Minister did is what we call respecting elders!
You guys ranting here are like year-olds asking their weak dad to go and beat that big bully on the street for them. Nigeria is way too tough for SA and your minister and President know that.
Your overzealous immigration officers were about to drag your country into a huge mess that they may never recover from but I must commend the chabane guy. He must be wise or maybe our Presido sent some wise-up message to Zuma last night.
If a Nigerian does something bad in your country, make him pay for it but dont go victimizing law abiding Nigerians entering your country cos there are consequences for that. We are good at the tit for tat game. We did it to the britons and they changed, Ghana did some shi*t to us in the '50s and we hit them back so hard in the '80s.
Dont let Nigeria come at you cos we are the true giant of this continent!
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tumzangwana
Jaja'sQueenBeen busy with the schools drama, didn't see this one! Shi.t!
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Sh!t indeed.
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KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
SAn are bloody rubbish sometimes,mehofe ena.Report Abuse
9jaboy
You guys should step your games up and stop the XENOPHOBIA on Nigeria....the country that supported you financially non stop during apartheid....the country that refused the European boycott and continuosly supplied oil to you during apartheid, the country that have doctors and other professionals saving your HIV stricken nation from more deaths....Mko Abiola and other Nigerian billionaires and Nigerian Government on a constant basis supported SA financially during apartheid, except for Ghadaffi of Libya...all other African nations deserted you during apartheid....DSTV, MTN are one of the many South African countries that are making more profits than Nigerian companies in Nigeria and more they can ever imagine of making in South Africa ....Nigeria is South Africa's number one market for private jet servicing companies..Forget the hooligans on your streets who call themselves Nigerians and who are still better than South African gangsters who rob their own.....take it or leave it....Nigeria is on the verge of becoming Africas largest economy....Africa's largest producer and exporter of oil...Africas largest exporter of intellects , professionals, entertainers, sports men, World's richest black (Aliko Dangote) and if you are still ignorant then ask your Gov to educate you bcos they know they tend to loose more afterall if Nigeria decides to start a HIV clearance at its airport, I wonder how many of the so called South African expatriates that troop into Nigeria on a daily basis that can actually come in without a fake clearance...your Government have apologized on your behalf ...so why don't you guys quit crying , get off the computer and face reality...Nigeria owns SA..Report Abuse
Jaja'sQueen
@CandyboyI am taking you home tonight whether you want to or not. I need to de-stress! You know what this means?
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BHOMI
YAH neh our gov............... uyigwala. If this happened in Botswana , nigerian were not going react like this!!!!!!!!!!Report Abuse
witklaps
MommaCwell isnt that what you saying - fick nigerians as long as south africans are okay, you dont havea heart, and careless.
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Msola321
so does this mean that they must come back with their fake cerfiticates....?Report Abuse
tumzangwana
@kataka@witklaps
@KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
who are you kidding foool, yesterday it was them poor zimbabweans, today the poor nigerians and tomorrow when theirs is no one else out there, it could be you and gogo, ifp, wites or colouredss.
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wa bona o, ke ene o ntse o ba lwanela gore they are nywe nywe our brothers nywe nywe and sisters, haaaaaaaaa, jaanong o go bitsa setlatla. wa bona, i told you so ke gore le wena ntate ga o mamele, bona fela........di tla go roga diphoofolo tse o di lwanelang tse. haaaaaaaaaaaa.
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Nevdad
KatakataEmaotoAditshepeSAn are bloody rubbish sometimes,mehofe ena.
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wena tsamo batlana le mmolai wa Dike le yane ya rutileng mosotho ho ja transport ya hae,
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MORNACHIESS
Let's just get rid of Zoomer finish and klaar !Report Abuse
witklaps
@MommaCtired of communicating with jackkasses today. now go find someone else foool.
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WordofGod
@KatakataEmaotoAditshepe@witklaps
@KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
who are you kidding foool, yesterday it was them poor zimbabweans, today the poor nigerians and tomorrow when theirs is no one else out there, it could be you and gogo, ifp, wites or colouredss.
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Se ke wa nnyela wena maan,who're u Mr Sir?
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mogalammakapan!!!!
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Ramatlhale
A bunch of incompetent, moronic, spineless, hypocritical, unfu.cken educated, unpatriotic, nigerian ass kissing, we're the bigger man/idiots/pussies, ashamed to call you my fellow countrymen cowards........Sies man!!!!You make a move/statement, you stand by it regardless of who may say what.........not honourable but unfortunately in foreign relation issues respect is taken not earned & SA you just lost yours, why don't you just rename our capital city to the name of their choosing because they are definately running things....!!!!
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little
@Ebrahim Ebrahim and your f*ken GovLe lahla Mello serious, le ya phapha en le lahla side bafana baka.
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MommaC
witklapsWhere was I saying that?
Just because your people don't see the danger and are willing to put their entire country at risk doesn't mean that you have a right to put my country at risk. You need to stop looking at how much you would love to see us suffer and instead see that it will be your people who suffer the most. Geez, don't you have enough problems with maleria there? Now you want to add yellow fever too?
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pierre2000
The price of having leaders who are wit-less, shame!!! Nijas are now laughing - why apologise to pipo with fake documents. If one can fake a vaccination certificate, how about a visa!!!!!Report Abuse
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@WordofGod@KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@witklaps
@KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
who are you kidding foool, yesterday it was them poor zimbabweans, today the poor nigerians and tomorrow when theirs is no one else out there, it could be you and gogo, ifp, wites or colouredss.
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Se ke wa nnyela wena maan,who're u Mr Sir?
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Askies I'm sorry.
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pierre2000
Who knows, they were members of Boko Haram, they will start blowing up pipo like they do blow their own brothers and sistersReport Abuse
Jaja'sQueen
Okay, I am fine now, have just consulted with my peeps. The reason for the apology was to appease the Nigerian government as the senators had asked the Federal Government to shut down all South African companies and for an immediate closure of the embassy. We have invested a lot in Nigeria. Lets all relax.Report Abuse
Bizzabo
9jaboy
take it or leave it....Nigeria is on the verge of becoming Africas largest economy.
Nigeria owns SA..
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In your dreams..with so much corruption? your last line pains me
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KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@NevdadKatakataEmaotoAditshepe
SAn are bloody rubbish sometimes,mehofe ena.
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wena tsamo batlana le mmolai wa Dike le yane ya rutileng mosotho ho ja transport ya hae,
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sh!tFaceSamsung
9jaboySA is better starve to death than to keep nigerian for that sake: we DON"T need nigerians that's all
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witklaps
@MommaClol, just teasing love........ but its great to get a rise out of you, and for sure you nearly got me earlier when i started picking at you, i was'nt entirely what the fick yellow fever was, until i wikipedia'd it.
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MommaC
Jaja'sQueentranslation : They wimped out.
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Jaja'sQueen
@9jaboyThey don't really own us, but we've invested billions there.
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MORNACHIESS
@Bizzabo,Kgale ke nyak.ana le wena mokgotse ..ke o sendetse something this morning man !
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MommaC
witklapsYou and Katakata will give everyone high blood pressure if you don't stop :)
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Bizzabo
Jaja'sQueenSo we do not mean the apology?
Relieved! * drinking coffee*
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9jaboy
Truth be told Nigeria Africa's most populous nation ..so 1 in every African is Nigerian...there are a lot of criminals who are Nigerians...so are there a lot of genuine hard working people recognized all over the world who are Nigerians...if your SA Immigration is not properly trained then in the future they might cause a big problem for SA...you cannot turn back genuine and properly documented ppl back bcos of your xenophobia towards a nation of over 150million ppl...this is the second time SA Government is apologizing to Nigeria after the SA immigration almost turned back Nigeria's Nobel prize winner Wole Soyinka....The SA fear is based on inferiority complex and the accomplishing power of a Nigerian...If a Nigerian takes your girlfriend away from you well step your game up rather than take out your frustration behind the computer or place of work(airport) Nigeria's swagger is in built and God given...we run things and if u dint know before...now you know ...meanwhile i was in London last week and had 3 South African girls naked and playing with themselves for me...dancing to house and zuma zuma...they are so cheap and all they needed was alcohol lol... Nigerian women want a car , louis vutton bags and large tips(cash) cos Nigerian men spend and take care of their women ...but ive just realized SA women are a bargain....on a night i couldve spent 3000 British pounds..I ended up spending 300 pounds ...God Bless South Africa lmaooReport Abuse
Jaja'sQueen
@MommaCI love this government!
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Candyboy
@Jaja'sQueenDont expect me to go easy on you tonight..... I have a volcano brewing deep down inside of me waiting to erupt.....your de-stress is on the way.....!
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Jaja'sQueen
@CandyboyMusic to my ears!
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tumzangwana
@sowetan even if you remove my comment i dont care, thats the truth, ftsek.Report Abuse
Jaja'sQueen
@BizzaboDiplomacy at its best, love this country!
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Msola321
@Jaja'sQueenIt doesn't matter Nigerians are depending on our companies otherwise their Economy will be crippled within few minutes. If they close down MTN there will no communication for large number of people and If they shut down STD Bank people's money will be frozen, give them enought rope they will hang themselves
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pierre2000
@ Msola321so does this mean that they must come back with their fake cerfiticates....?
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That is a gud question. I wish my sister WordofGod can answer. They are the ones who want them
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Bizzabo
MORNACHIESSo sendile mapona? then ke tlo robala sharp mokgotse
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MORNACHIESS
@tumza,hahahahaha ke eng ka wena today mara ?
@Bizzabo,
Tlogela go bolela diphiri moo bloggong man !
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BEULAH
9JABOY...........there u go SA a classic example of how ungrateful these things are but not to worry 9jaboy wordofgod loves u.....y not go rob her of her tithe 9jaboy you bloody thieves!! cow!!Report Abuse
Bizzabo
MORNACHIESSo sendile map*ona? then ke tlo robala sharp mokgotse
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Msola321
@pierre2000@ Msola321
so does this mean that they must come back with their fake cerfiticates....?
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That is a gud question. I wish my sister WordofGod can answer. They are the ones who want them
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@WordofGod
Answer me...
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Bizzabo
MORNACHIESSmarumo fatshe nkgonne!
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hindsight
some ol'bullshit!Report Abuse
MommaC
Jaja'sQueenI love this government!
I know! They are just cute like jellybabies. All spineless and nutrition freee
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tumzangwana
@MORNACHIESka eng love?
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maphakisa.com
to hell with apologies. they bring drugs and sicknesses into our country, what is it they want from us, our young girls to smuggle drugs for them. our goverment appologises for protecting us. this Zuma's goverment is going down and i am supporting juju he must go(zuma)Report Abuse
Jaja'sQueen
@Msola321That's not how things work in Nigeria. Ssshhh!
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MAARKENG-JANONG
@Katakata &Co.Ke kgutlile ntjamme. Ba mpitsitse from vacation to come and fix things up
The reason why this toothless govt of our apologized is very simple. It's politics of "balance of power"i.e SA is vying for the chairmanship of some (I stand to be corrected) stupid post within the so-called Peace and Security within the AU. And for sure you know who our candidate is; Minister of Horror Affairs, showerhead's ex.
Get it now?
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Msola321
@Jaja'sQueen@Msola321
That's not how things work in Nigeria. Ssshhh!
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How does it works then...?
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WordofGod
@Msola321ha ba kgutle...
@Bizzabo
@MORNACHIESS
o sendile mapona? then ke tlo robala sharp mokgotse
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Candyboy
@Jaja'sQueento me....if you apologise....then you admit to being in the wrong.....and its a sign of weakness....i am an individual who never apologise when i do something, especially if it’s for my benefit and for those who care.....I honestly dont give a sh!t of the investments ect. that we made to 9ja....what happened to integrity and protecting the citizens of this country.....that should be the first thing our GOVT had to consider....yellow fever is not child’s play......we followed protocol and GOVT should've stood by that....they are spineless and have no b@lls.....!
PS:......your pussie is in allot of sh!t tonight.......*finish & klaar*
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Msola321
@MAARKENG-JANONGLOL............
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Ramatlhale
I mean why the he.ll do we even toyi-toyi in this country? just start a 100% nigerian trade union and I promise you the govt will listen and while you are at it build them their own airport with their very special airline.One day you have the Jimmy Manyi's telling us where each race should take up residence......and what no apologies. And then the same blo.ody nincompoop comes back to tell us that we should just get used to the e-tolling money making scam......what we say, how it affects us or our pockets it's none of their concern because we will actually be paying their share of the e-toll gates as well as ours but we have no say in the matter whatsoever..........I am sorry but I am just about about ready to start a mess...............!!!!
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pierre2000
Is 'apoligising' to wrong-doers the basic principle of the current foreign policy? If they had been deported, whereas they had genuine cerificates i would understand. But fake certifcates? Ok as a gesture of gud will, all convicted nija drug dealers and thieves should be released.Report Abuse
Msola321
@WordofGodonly in one condition, with valid documents.....
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Yorubaman
I must say many comments strike me as coming from people who have never left their neighbourhoods.I don't mean this to be an insult at all but a matter or fact. Those who have know how dangerous this kind of hating can be."Go back to where you came from" rhetoric is hackneyed and often impotent.The particular ethnic group of Nigerians whom I understand are in SA are a very driven competitive bunch.In short,survivors.They do not need me to come to their defence.Perhaps they have one or two insights from their travels SA will do well to studyNigerians are just a target for h.ate which I rather suspect to be a redirected self-loathing that is unclear to those who harbour it. I hope there are others who can see beyond this inside and look toward a vision where Black people as a race have something to be proud of.
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Jaja'sQueen
@Msola321All you need to know now is that South Africa and Nigeria enjoy strong diplomatic and trade links.
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Missynj
Europe and South Africa deported 427 Nigerians more or less the same time in February 2012 only? We need to be asking ourselves questions? South African government then decided to apologize. what apology?Report Abuse
Jaja'sQueen
@YorubamanRelax my brother a high-level ministerial task team had been set up to investigate the matter. Our cabinet minister has expressed “shock and regret” at the incident.
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pierre2000
@ YorubamanI must say many comments strike me as coming from people who have never left their neighbourhoods.I don't mean this to be an insult at all but a matter or fact. Those who have know how dangerous this kind of hating can be."Go back to where you came from" rhetoric is hackneyed and often impotent.The particular ethnic group of Nigerians whom I understand are in SA are a very driven competitive bunch.In short,survivors.They do not need me to come to their defence.Perhaps they have one or two insights from their travels SA will do well to study
Nigerians are just a target for h.ate which I rather suspect to be a redirected self-loathing that is unclear to those who harbour it. I hope there are others who can see beyond this inside and look toward a vision where Black people as a race have something to be proud of.
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You are a good one, falling in the 1 % categrory of gud Nigas. 99% are crooks!!!!!!!!!!
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Msola321
@Jaja'sQueenSo South African’s health must be jeopardized because of their valueless trade, they don’t even sell their oil to us they sell it oversea
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Jaja'sQueen
@CandyboyWhatever it takes...do you have any idea how much money is in that country?
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Msola321
@MissynjEurope and South Africa deported 427 Nigerians more or less the same time in February 2012 only? We need to be asking ourselves questions? South African government then decided to apologize. what apology?
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Exactly my point..........
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one_naija
You guys need to relax, that apology is for your own good!A lot of bad things woulda happened to SA if we hadnt gotten that apology soon enough.
You should thank your government!
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Msola321
@one_naijaYou guys need to relax, that apology is for your own good!
A lot of bad things woulda happened to SA if we hadnt gotten that apology soon enough.
You should thank your government!
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What bad things.....?
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Jaja'sQueen
@Msola321The last time Nigeria had a case of yellow fever was before 1995.
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Tzozzo
@ 9jaBoyStill dreaming of becoming Africa's largest economy ? South Africa has always been one and remain one until Badluck Jonathan agrees to Boko Haram's call to make your shi*t country a muslim state..hahahahahahhahahah.
As for your comical statement that Nigeria owns SA I can only conclude that you are not only a seller of cocaine but a user as well. That is cocaine induced delusions of grandeur.
Or did you mean to say Nigerian pimps own SA dope addicts maybe.......
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9jaboy
@msola321.....Yellow fever and HIV aids choose one??????????????????? Cos your health has been in jeopardy even before the influx of Nigerian immigrants...Report Abuse
Jaja'sQueen
@one_naijaWe love this government and your government too and thank you for accepting our apology, it takes a big man to do that, my african brother.
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brock
south africans we 2weak look at how dis monkeys are feeding us wth k@k,de likes of mr kwerekwere 9jaboy....no,no,no,no,dis is unacceptable fellows...alexadra,seshego,plz guys declare dat famous war im prepared 2 take it 2 de streeets..SA stp complaing about de govt,we all knw dat dey r useless...WAR WAR WAR!!!!!!!!!!Report Abuse
brock
WAR WAR WAR against this monkeys.....war against 9jak@kReport Abuse
Msola321
@Jaja'sQueenSo why do they need fake certificates.....?
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Because you and your brothers are the one who bringing these diseases in here
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Danger1985
The truth of the matter is that the apology is for the good of the political leaders who are making a great deal of money from their direct investment with Nigeria. It is no secret that there are "secret treaties" btwn SA and Nigeria which will never come out just like the Arms Deal.The Nigerians are part of the problem but the real problem is the ANC Gvt...FACT!!!
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sgubhusenkwishi
Mr Ebrahim ibrahim, you are fired. You dont qualify to nullify the work well done within the protocols and policiies of the country to please the whinging countries. That is totally unacceptable and unproffessional , it equates to the national betrayal sentencing.If the employees who carried out such good jobs, they fail to do so in future acting to the best of our national interest, you will blame them as incompetent and unproffessional , who guided you to arrive to such unsolicited decesion. Ofcourse if the immigration allowes such scale of immigrant to go through into the country against all such odd, how much health damage will our national have to keep up with, despite so much burden they already have to keep up with without enough capacity to handle. You have really made a big blunder, this is just a political based judgement undermining the impact and effect that this neglegence might have to our citizens. An immediate post reshufling would be appropriate. We need patriots ,not soft sponge international pleasers.
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Dzel
Jaja,what exactly are we apologising for. this is our country, our rules and if you don't like our rules then stay at home. Why are we bending backwards for Nigerians the bulk of whom are not having a positive contribution in our country.
This one_naija dude has the audacity to tell us to apologise or else. Hell no, I will not go to Nigeria and start disrespecting the country so why are we allowing Nigeria to do this to us?
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one_naija
@brok;Your war song will only die in your computer.
And if you should take it serious, remeber that the nigerian thugs in SA use AK-47 and FN riffles whereas your people use bows and arrows.
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Manj
Ewena 9jashit why don't you go back to your country and apply your skills there and take care of your whores there... If there is any thing that we benefit from you surely it is very insignificant compared to the damage that you guys are causing us.... When the name nigerians come to my mind I think of drug dealers, pimps and nothing else..Report Abuse
9jaboy
TZOZZO.....I'm not the one predicting or claiming Nigeria to become Africas largest economy n next 5 to 10 years.....CNN , BBC and Morgan Stanley and top world Financial analysts have have said so...Do your research, travel the globe, get information beyond your TV and overlook fallacies.As for Boko haram...its a western tool created for the sole purpose of securing Nigeria's oil reserves...Too bad Nigerians are too smart for them...Iraq, Libya, Iran then Nigeria??? Does that make sense to you??Maybe not cos your level of assimilating information, critical thinking, understanding of world events and the politics of the people that call shots is still in the neophyte stage.
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Jaja'sQueen
@Msola321This was a terrible misunderstanding the documents were from the federal ministry of health. Let's leave it at that. The apology is already out there and it is with our sincerest regrets this has happened. I going home now.
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MommaC
Jaja'sQueenYou say this has to do with financial losses that could occur. What would the financial ramifications be if SA became infected with yellow fever?
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AmweA
Guys, We pride ourselves as big league players in the world, BICS et.al. ut what we did is not in accordance with the best international practices. Those that are interested should look at the international health act of 2005 articles 23, 32 and 45. The malawian players were innoculated in kenya and allowed to proceed as required by law, the other players who were not vaccinated were sent back to Blantyre.Report Abuse
9jaboy
@DANGER 1985.........Thank you very much for your comment....help educate your ppl.....Report Abuse
Manj
@one_naija ......ya mao and .... a ntatao...Report Abuse
Tzozzo
These bloody Nigerians think we are ignorant people who know little about them and what is happening in their country. I for one have been in that humongous slum called Lagos three times and I can tell you I have never seen such disorganisedn mess in my entire life. A collegue of mine went there in January this year and although I had warned him beforehand he was still unprepared for the culture shock that met him when he arrived at what passes for their international airport.I don't understand why Nigerians can't understand why everybody outside their country h ate them. Right now Boko Haram, an Islamist organization with its roots in the north of the country can't stand their "fellow" Southerners whom they accuse of being morally degenerate and the epitome of everything evil. And lest we forget it is mostly the southerners (igbos) who come here and cause all sort of shi*t. Nigerians are constantly debating whether their country should continue as one thing because they h ate each other more than I h ate their drug dealers.
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Dzel
Jaja,This was a terrible misunderstanding the documents were from the federal ministry of health. Let's leave it at that. The apology is already out there and it is with our sincerest regrets this has happened.
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We usually see eye to eye but on this one we have to disagree; please speak for yourself as I see no need to apologise. If anything this incident has reveal it is the entitlement attitude Nigerians come to SA with that is why they do not think twice about force-feeding young children drugs and forcing them into prostitu.tion. Has the Nigerian government apologised for crimes committed by Nigerians in SA?
Nigerians are the last people to talk given what their nationals do once in our country.
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Serenade
Jerrrrrrrrrrrrrr Government ee eya depresa man!Report Abuse
sgubhusenkwishi
What were they coming here for in the first place? Did they have jobs, any working permit at hand if they were already employed by companies of state employed ? If not they were still not qualifying to come through the borders of our country. You are driving our country down, infiltrating it with drug lords, pimps, human traffickers, diseases and fakers and you dont care.What you care about about is lininng your pockets at all costs. You are a shame to our nationals.
Xenophobia will never stop inthis country, people have to take law into their own hands if the state officials fail them. You have got nothing to be proud about. These people are not even our neighbours, but they black mail you as they call themselves africans which has got no benefit to our nationals. They have to breach all our law, rules and policies, simple because they are africans. How do you manage this country? you are so disgusting.
If a person doesnt meet the rules and requirements to live in my house, brotherhood and relationship is immaterial. No one would force me to breach my rules full stop. We just have to unvote anc , to clean our country of foreigners.
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Dzel
@Yorubaman,Nigerians are just a target for h.ate which I rather suspect to be a redirected self-loathing that is unclear to those who harbour it. I hope there are others who can see beyond this inside and look toward a vision where Black people as a race have something to be proud of.
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Have you been to SA, have you been to Hillbrow (Johannesburg), Point (Durban), Sea Point (Cape Town) and seen the contribution from your countrymen in SA and crime in general?
Until you have you will never understand the level of resentment and are in no position to tell us about self-loathing. that you think it is self-loathing makes it obvious you have no idea what you are talking about.
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Tzozzo
@ 9jaBoyI thot you only sell narcs. The Nigerian govt too smart for Boko Haram ??? C'mon 9jaFool. Hardly a day passes by without BH blowing up people in churches and mosques. Even before BH came into the picture Nigerians were always at each other's throats. We know you h ate each other with a passion. It won't even surprise me if that country disintegrate even before you attain your dream of becoming Africa's largest economy. In 2010 I attended a short course in CT with a few Nigerian guys and I couldn't believe it when I saw how guys from the South never even bothered to greet those from the North while they were always so keen to befriend us SAns.
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MommaC
Jaja'sQueenIf the vaccination tags were from the federal ministry of health then why didn't the batch numbers exist?
I think you are being a polar bear after penguins again here.
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one_naija
@Dzel,If nigerians SUCCESSFULLY force-feed your children drugs and force them into prostitution and yet it is not as bad here in Nigeria, it then says a lot about your society.
You should be able to ask yourselves why is it easy to do in South Africa but not in Nigeria.
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Honeybadger
TzozzoVery interesting analogy. If i understand you correctly, it sounds like the Nigerians who are in SA are actually displaced caused by the persecution by Boko Haram. Lets just accept them as part of us and learn to live together. We honestly cannot say all Nigerians are drug dealers, 419 scammers etc
Perhaps the approach is to try and tackle the problem as it is without the profiling. maybe instead of focusing on the drug peddler we also focus on the consumer. remember without a buyer there wont be a seller. just a thought...
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MommaC
one_naijaNow you are talking bull. I've been to Nigeria.
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Dzel
one_naija,If nigerians SUCCESSFULLY force-feed your children drugs and force them into prostitution and yet it is not as bad here in Nigeria, it then says a lot about your society.
You should be able to ask yourselves why is it easy to do in South Africa but not in Nigeria.
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Now you are being obtuse, your countrymen come here and commit crime en-mass and you try to push blame to SA. How old are you dude, are you completely devoid of logical thinking?
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Warren
Ek is nou rerig ga.tvol.S.A. citizens continue suffering ridicule from foreigners in their own land,streets,bars,jobs e.t.c. and now even out governmemnt goes and l.icks fvken foreign government ga.tte. That apology does not represent me until I know exactly why we had to apologise. Also until we receive an apology from the Nigerian government for all the destruction that their drug dealing citizens cause our country. Dont flatter yourselves ogas.That apology represents a minority of fatcats and not S.A. people. Take a sample survey of the comments and see the truth.
And we are supposed to be proudly South African,I suppose? We are tired of people nursing their own individual political careers at the expense of the majority of our people. Those airport officials did nothing wrong but act in a pro-active and preventative manner to protect the poor people of S.A. who cant afford specialist treatment from desease. The fatcats with state sponsored specialist medical care do not see the good job that those people were doing because they never experience these things.
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Mafakudukudu
Dumelang Ka moka. Namogeleng hle. am a bloggr & ke le rata all.:-)Report Abuse
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MommaC
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Honeybadger
MommaCI agree with you one_naija is trying too hard now. Besides let this not become a pi$sing contest but rather a fruitful discussion where statements are backed by facts or at the least opinion with slight common sense.
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Serenade
I wish we could have face to face debate with these nigerians Government will have to protect them because we will bur?n one nigerian to make an example of what it is coming for them.Report Abuse
one_naija
@Dzel;My age wont matter to you anymore when you ask yourself those basic questions.
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sgubhusenkwishi
Our enemy number one is our government. We have got a gvt that is a who re, who betrays our country at all costs. Agovt that will share bed will all the pimps, drug dealers and corruptees. Mazulu thathani izagile zenu nizivikele aninahulumeni. Vikelani izwe loyihlomkhulu nikhohlwe yilemfeketho.Report Abuse
Warren
SgubhuMr Ebrahim ibrahim, you are fired. You dont qualify to nullify the work well done within the protocols and policiies of the country to please the whinging countries. That is totally unacceptable and unproffessional , it equates to the national betrayal sentencing.
If the employees who carried out such good jobs, they fail to do so in future acting to the best of our national interest, you will blame them as incompetent and unproffessional , who guided you to arrive to such unsolicited decesion.
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Spot on Sgubhu. Who exactly took that decision to apologise on our behalf? As usual they saw no need to inform us on the reasons for taking that decision.Just like with many other things like the Tolls and so on. Thats how much we are taken for granted by our own people once they think they have arrived. Ek is so foken die moer in ek is somaar lus om iemand se g.at te skop man. nxa.
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MommaC
HoneybadgerHow does it not become a pizzing contest with these kind of comments being thrown around? You gotta admit, it is hard to keep the decent Nigerians we have met in mind when this fool is spouting this kind of nonsense. He gives the entire country a bad name
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Honeybadger
MommaCHe could have just bunked school today. me thinks not worth the effort. we had some mind opening comments from Nigerians above; one_naija wasnt one of them.
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MommaC
HoneybadgerI think we (as South Africans) are always too quick to become aggressive and push everyone into a stereotyped, neatly labelled box. The Nigerians don't help their cause though. A lot of them seem to actively try to live down to those stereotypes.
As I said in the previous string. There is good and bad in every part of the world. We just seem to have more than our fair share of the 'bad' Nigerians in this part
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African2dcore
Well done SA govt for apologising to Nigeria. I bet some of the vile comments on this site about the apology wouldn't have been posted if it was rendered to the US or UK govt for deporting their citizens (rightly or wrongly). SA govt has displayed real strength here and has shown the way on how Africans can resolve their problems without external interference. SA citizens should stop seeing themselves as 'Afro-Europeans' and start treating other Africans with dignity.Report Abuse
Yorubaman
It is lazy to say one person from one country does so and so and on that basis I will I relate to others.This is why I say most commentators have never left there homelands. I live in the UK and also have visited several European cities with a cosmopolitan population.It is part of human nature to resent outsiders especially when times are hard but also for a range of other reasons.To a large extent forces of globalization dominate the world and have done for a while now. I suppose apartheid era isolation means that ,mentally ,many SAcans live in a bubble. Reality is foreigners will come to your country to compete with you in all areas and not being able to compete will drive resentment.
It seems SAcans resent foreigners in general NOT just Nigerians but for some reason this resentment is particularly virulent for Black Africans and Nigerians particularly and this is why I came up with the redirected self loathing hypothesis.
I am not aware of any evidence that Nigerians are more criminal than Indians,Russians,Chinese,Mexicans or Brazilians
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MommaC
African2dcoreWhat is it with the bloody chip on the shoulder?
I have personally seen German nationals (yes, very very white ones) being turned back because they had been in a yellow fever area and did NOT have a yellow fever inoculation certificate. So stuff you and your inferiority complex !!!
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Yorubaman
The apology was the correct thing to do rather than conflate two unrelated issues.If Nigerian immigration volume in general is a problem this can be addressed in a strategic and focused way.
This is equally true for criminal activity.
Nigeria has not reported Yellow Fever for 20 years and should not require vaccination and so that requirement must be dropped .
Relationships between sovreign nations do not leave room for ambivalence ,either we have one or we don't
In the former case it must be managed with tact and respect.
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MommaC
YorubamanIs Nigeria an 'at risk' country for yellow fever?
Does the Nigerian government do enough to ensure that they do not get yellow fever?
Do most countries follow the WHO suggestions as to who requires yellow fever certificates?
Is a yellow fever certificate needed by SA in order for someone from a risk country to travel here?
If the answer to all of the above is yes (which it is)
Then why get a fake yellow fever certificate which probably costs more than the bloody injection does?
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Warren
Jajas QueenOkay, I am fine now, have just consulted with my peeps. The reason for the apology was to appease the Nigerian government as the senators had asked the Federal Government to shut down all South African companies and for an immediate closure of the embassy. We have invested a lot in Nigeria. Lets all relax.
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So a few capitalists interests rule over National Pride? For your info. after this show of weakness has happened,these nigerian fraudsters will hold us at ransom looking for yet another excuse to do exactly that.Confisticate all S.A. business interests in Nigeria. Any S.A. business with interests in Nigeria must just read the irrational and reactionary response of that government and know that it may be averted now,but its coming for one reason or another.
I say start planning ahead guys. It fvcken Nigerians you dealing with.Dont get too cosy.
On the other hand,in the not so long run,it would serve our country better if we do the tit for tat thing because our country would be rid of all drug smuggling and scamming Nigerians.Imagine if we also closed their embassy here and sent all their citizens home? I for one,would be clad to contribute towards compesating the companies that lose businesses in Nigeria. As long as our land would be rid of all Nigerians.
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9jaboy
@TZOZZO....U still show your lack of immaturity in terms of actuality and reality...What are you and your colleagues travelling to Nigeria for??? You went for a good cause?? So every Nigerian coming to SA is coming to feed your ppl drugs and lead your women into prostitution whereras SAFricans only travel to help humanity as they have contributed more than any nation in the well being of the entire African continent ??? When I said Nigerians are too smart for the Boko Haram propaganda I mean ppl like me not the Nigerian Government who is also as useless as your own country's government..You are still western biased and this is why Africa as a continent is still behind the rest....You dont understand the west's hunger for oil and you equally do not understand the new world order agenda hence you couldve understood the creation and motive behind boko haram...Is there genuine love among ur own ppl?Don't you have tribal differences too? Light skin, brown skin, dark skin and marungus?Is there any South African problem you can prove that is directly caused by Nigeria/Nigerians? Nigeria or no Nigeria...a prosti@#te, drug addict, alcoholic and greedy business person who will fall for scam will always exist...Do not talk like you dont have slums in your country or that if everything Nigeria is completely removed from your country your lives will be better...This is what you dont understand and this is exactly why you don't understand Boko Haram....And if u think the Northern and Southern Nigerians you met do not like themselves and love you South African more then start a fight against their nation and see how quick they will become brothers to crush you...and this is what we need (unity)as Africans to fight our problems and realize our God given potentials not discrimination...You can bluff all you want but as long as your Government have apologized and continue to do so just like they have done in the past...you as the South African is still the looser..so have a very good sad day Uncle Zu#uReport Abuse
9jaboy
@man eater.....I'm glad u notice me.....but the truth of the matter is that Nigerians are very succesfull ppl and this is the main reason for all this h#te.....We have our problems, and ofcourse as Africa's most populous nation, it is very easy to understand why Nigerian crimes are highly visible... But this is not enough reason to forget history..go and read Nigeria/Nigerians role during apartheid...Go and google famous Nigerians and credible Nigerians all over the world making strong impact towards improving humanity...Nigeria have added one African billionaire every year to forbes list in the last 3 years...and the fact that South Africa is no heaven and has been reported to being the most dangerous country in the world which is not at war as far back as 2002, from rhino poaching to every thing one can think of, makes it very funny to read a lot of the SAfrican mindset here....You guys are no angels...If you can't beat them...join them #TeamNigeria#..even here in New York i walk into your restaurants (madiba) and in few seconds i whisk your women and all night all they do is talk abt how much they h#te their men bcos they are lazy and not success driven.....Stop the h#te...increase your husle...and yes I have a PHD....Report Abuse
Honeybadger
9jaboystill a pis$ing contest really. this discussion has been about whose is bigger from the start. very few tried to get to the crux of the matter. instead its about which country is richer, or which is poorer, etc i say just a pissing contest at the end of the day
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Mkwerekwere
so is this apology sincere or just a way to seek support for nkosazana zuma for the AU post ? and well done Nigeria for standing up to this bullying xenophobic government thats forgets that it was fellow africans who helped liberate your from apartheid, and keep mouring until you relaise that the wolrd has gone cosmopolitan you are so backward you south africans deal with it , it is what it is people go where they want in todays wold visa or no visa yellow fever certificate or not , DHA or notReport Abuse
one_naija
I will ask GEJ to make sure we start requesting HIV certificate from all South Africans.Report Abuse
9jaboy
Honeybadger.....No its abt condeming a nation of over 150 million ppl just because of some low lifes....Every country has good and bad ppl...why the ha$e towards every Nigerian and the Nigerian nation? Deal and tackle your own issues first before pointing fingers..Yellow fever according to Nigeria's ministry of health and World Health Organization was last seen in Nigeria in 2005 or are you not aware that South African border officials/ immigration use it as a means of bribery? Where is yellow fever card or pay some $$$...Nigeria is responsible for that too?? You have aids more than any other African nation which is incurrable and your worrying abt yellow fever? What a joke...Lets just face the fact, the South African immigration and Government just made a big fool of themselves and the whole entire South African nation...I'm not debating who is better or richer...South Africa is ahead of Nigeria in terms of everything especially infrastructure...but I will affirm to you again that the whole xenophobia is that Nigeria and Nigerians are coming up real fast...h@ing , discriminating and prejudice on a few Nigerians who are less than 1% of the country cannot stop the Nigerian surge to become Africa's # 1 nation...the people, intellect, hard work and resources are there..its all a matter of time and those drug dealers will be rushing back to Nigeria...lets just pray a bunch of South Africans will not be following them....Report Abuse
afam4eva
I'm really lol at the comments on here. South Africans are funny bunch of people. Your country apologized for the your own good. You don't go about messing with countries that you benefit a great deal from. You guys are just buncha uneducated fellows. WTF.Report Abuse
moralett
To the minister of Home Affairs and The Ambassador in Nigeria,the is no apology,this people must must be deported , all of them out of the country now not tomorrow. I beleive we had enough about this people,what are they doing here,to destroy our beautifull land with their drugs. Big no they must all deport out and they must apply for the new passport to come this country. I would like to highligth our minister of Home affairs stop being so nice to the wrong thing because we are going to lose the culture.I believe if the can send the mellow yellow to escort them out they will never come back again,Mrs Minister do you know mellow yellow(Oom Piete) setting on top of mellow yellow,am telling you this people they will never ever come back again.
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9jaboy
@afam4eva....do not mind them....ignorance is the biggest and the most dangerous disease facing humanity espeically the African continent....Maybe the average South African is either suffering from dementia, or their elders have failed to educate them on history or they are just people with short memory...South Africa cannot pay Nigeria back what it gave them during the apartheid struggle....not only financially but emotionally , truthfully in dignity and in the true spirit of being African...#Word#....Report Abuse
afam4eva
Mybe we should start requesting for HIV card from every south african that's coming into Nigeria. isn't that inorder since a large number of bafanas are HIV infested.Report Abuse
ProudlyNigerian
I not really suprised with some of the comments here because most saffers on sowetan are brain dead but i must say i am suprised at MommaC's comments.I could almost say they are bordering on racism.I have one question for you Mommc,you claim to have been to Nigeria before? Did you get infected with Yellow fever in Nigeria? Can you point to any recent case where an outbreak of yellow fever has been reported in Nigeria?If your answer is a solid NO why are you insinuating that Nigerians will bring yellow fever to SA?No Nigerian is currently infected with the disease so how can they bring it to SA? Nigerians have been coming here since 1990s,how many outbreaks of yellow fever has occured in SA in then?You even had the audacity to refer to us as mozzies in the other artcle but you always claim not to be a racist.You might see yourself as an African but i will never see you as an African,i have been following your comments on several articles and i have noticed that you and your kin RobinH always make questionable statements that will make one wonder on which side of the fence you are.
I will say this clearly for you to understand,i have lost all respect for you and i will always considered your comments to be racially motivat3d and illinformed.Please refrain from commenting about Nigeria because you are clearly ignorant about what is really going in Nigeria.
You did not address the issue of the Nigerian women and children who were held illegally (without any solid proof that they are in possession of fake documents) without food and water for 24hrs and bundled on a flight like animals back home.I don't even know why i am suprised after all you a wh!te South African and based on my experience in this country ,you guys are visibly heartless and racist to your souls.
If you could use your number six ,you will realize that no Mother will bu.y fake yellow fever cards for her children knowing that she and her kids could be detained ,arrested or deported back home.Your logic shows that all wh!te and some black South Africans think alike and lack common sense but have in abundance a discriminatory mentality.
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AmazulunaOrlandoPirate
It is never unprecedented but most unfortunate that brothers and sisters from South Africa posting comment have never asked the important question. If Nigerians were you, Our concern would be why did our government deploy citizens who are not educated at the International Airport?Your government has been mature to step up and apologise with the necessary speed of light. Otherwise, the adverse impact of further delays is that the Billions of Rand that Shoprite, Multichoice, MTN, and many other of your companies drive into your country on monthly basis to pay some social grant will dry up and many will literarily die of hunger.
Nigerian population is the Main Stay of South African Economy. Clearly majority of you who have posted comment, never understand the hand that feeds you. for record purpose, please note that South Africa repartriated 125 Nigerians and Nigeria has within three days deported 121 South Africans, does this tell you that South Africans also go to Nigeria?
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Osirus
So the govenment can and will deport BLACK! african Nigerian nationals back to nigeria but will not deport WHITE! so called Afrikanerbond netherland european immigrants with there original origins being from russian and there sick history in south africa of the treatment of BLACK! Azanian's and the govenment will not deport them???.....Yes! that realy makes sense doesn't it!
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Sukamania
I notice that a lot people have reacted/are reacting to this issue from a position of ignorance and lots of emotions. There are certain important questions that need to be raised.1. One of the valid requirements to obtain an SA visa is a yellow card showing evidence of Yellow Fever immunization. How could the SA High Commission in Nigeria issue visas to people with "fake" yellow cards?
2. What were the convincing evidence that the Yellow Cards were all fake? How can 125 people all have fake yellow cards?
3. International protocol in diplomacy requires that when u have such an issue involving large number of people from a certain country, you are expected to, at least, inform the Govt of that country through their Ambassador. SA completely ignored a basic rule of diplomacy.
4. A Nigerian Senator, which is an equivalent of a US Senator, was involved in this shameful deportation. A Senator typically travels with a Diplomatic passport and deserves all the due protocols accorded a foreign dignitary. How can SA embarrass a Nigerian Senator? Can that same treatment be given to a US Senator?
5. Why didn't the SA Govt./Immigration quarantine the people for a few hours, give them Yellow Fever immunization and charge them for it?
6. Is Yellow Fever worst than HIV? SA has one of the worst HIV records in the world and yet lots of SA people still travel to Nigeria daily.
7. Couldn't this have been handled more decently than resorting to provocative deportation?
I am a Nigerian, I live in Nigeria and I have a very decent job in Nigeria. I have travelled round the world and can't imagine travelling to SA. I have heard horrible things that happen to ordinary Nigerians that come there - armed robbery incidents and how Immigration officials collude with thieves to rob Nigerians in their hotel rooms and all that. Every country has it's own challenges, Nigeria may not be at its best now, doesn't mean u should maltreat Nigerians in your country. There are thousands of SA people living and working here.
Nigerian media this morning reports that Nigerian Govt. has given some conditions for this face-off to be resolved:
1. An official Apology from SA govt.
2. The Immigration officials who were responsible for this incident must be punished.
3. The costs (expenses) incured by the Nigerian travellers must be paid by SA govt.
4. A commitment that such incident must never happen again.
The real truth is that SA is what it is today bcos Nigeria paid the big price to liberate SA. Nigeria commanded huge influenced in global fora and galvanised African voices against apartheid to liberate SA. Most of the people making these comments never really experienced Apartheid - ask your fathers/mothers. Every generation of SA people should be greatful to Nigeria and Africa for the sacrifices paid in human and financial resources - Habouring ur people, training them, giving scholarships, etc. The least Nigeria expect from you is gratitude and respect rather than provocation.
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NigeriaGiantofAfricaSAtakenote
A lot of my Nigerian brothers have said it all. SA do not have choice but continue to accommodate Nigerians no matter how much you are intimidated by our smartness and ingenuity for the following reasons;1 95 percent of the SAs commenting on this page will die of hunger if they do because 40 percent of total SA money comes from Nigeria (MTN, MULTICHOICE, SHOPRITE)
2 We invested our scarce resources TO SAVE YOU ALL FROM THE CRUELTY OF THE WHITE COLONIAL MASTERS
3 SA is a complete disgrace to the African populace because of their embarrassing record of HIV infection, even at that we do not ask you to provide HIV test result or request that we test SAs before they gain entry into Nigeria because WHO is against that and so is WHO against request for yellow fever vaccination from countries that are not endemic to it.
In summary, SA needs Nigeria more than we need SA and so does the whole world...
I rest my case
Engr Mmemme Atuegwu
Atlanta Georgia, USA
In summary, SA needs
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Warren
Whatever the reason is that some individuals in our government thought it important to apologize, I still maintain that it has more to do with nursing personal political careers than it is in the interest of National Pride. A country without national pride can never be fully patriotic or united in anything.Spineless,unprincipled governments are nothing to be proud of,whatever the excuse.
There is a line between calculated deplomacy and plain arrogance and indecisiveness.
We need to take a leaf from the Americans when it comes to national pride and decisiveness,whether their decisions are popuplar or not,they make decisions and stick to them throughout. Thats what governments do,show strength and character for once dammit. Thats why Americans are so patriotic.
To the southern nigerian ars.holes who carry on insulting and provoking S.A. people here, the joke will be on you one day.
To S.A. businesses with interests in nigeria, the reaction of that government to this matter should tell you of things to come,you have been warned because they may hold some influential people at ransom but they cant forever hold the whole nation at ransom.
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Warren
To all loudmouth nigerians claiming to have liberated S.A..you can tell that to the ignorant m orons who also fall for your scams. Or try the younger ignorant generation of S.A.can do not know their history. The bulk of the funds you claim to have contributed towards our liberation never left the pockets of your own leaders just like the bulk of your oil revenues never reached where they were destined for. In short,you were scammed in our name. It is exactly this false sense of entitlement that leads to your disrespect of our land and you already pushing it too far as it is. If it was true that you single handedly deliverd us from aparheid,does it entitle you to destroy our country and children with drugs and fraud? That will never happen cos we wont allow it.apology or not.Countries like Tanzania,Botswana.Moz,Lesotho.Swaziland,Zambia,Cuba,USSR,Scandanavia and many more,did hundred fold more than you but they still respect us so vtsek man.
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NigeriaGiantofAfricaSAtakenote
After all the rantings, why the apology.It tells clearly that SA needs Nigeria more than Nigeria needs anyone.
Our crude oil gains isn't well spread to get to the common man, but that does not stop us from being the best that anyone can be for people who look up to him.
I can decipher from all that ignorant SA that their basic problem in this whole deportation thing is just INFERIORITY COMPLEX.
An average Nigerian is naturally smarter than anyone else from at least within the periphery of Africa.
Yes! Our leaders caused us to route for the smartest way to keep our heads above our shoulders...
nothing dey happen!!!
Mmemme Atuegwu
Atlanta Georgia, USA
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sgubhusenkwishi
We have to vote another gvt in power like Ifp / DA that will lead this country without being held into ransom by all these doomsayers from african countries who claim that they helped ANC during the struggle against apartheid, we are now sick and tired of such retarded tabulations. Some of this countries are so poor themselves and very corrupted. One wanders how would they have managed to help any one with such dry mouths that can caught fire if exposed to it , they cant even feed their people. Apart from that this claims are interfering with the way we suppose to independently manage our sovereignity without fear or favour. Instead we have to payback all the drug dealers and flood our streets with ungovernable people simple because there these unfounded claims.Enough is enough and to hell with the way we relate to this african countries. If they cant respect our laws to hell with them.
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sgubhusenkwishi
South africa can do very well especially without nigeria.Report Abuse
TheTruthShallSetsUFree
It does not matter whether or not the certificates were fake!!! A fake Health Book is a very very minor offence (as compared to a fake Visa endorsement, which can also carry a stint in prison before deportation, but the appropriate Consul should be informed). The most offensive thing that the RSA Dept of Immigration did was to act of their own accord instead of consulting with their superiors (read Home Affairs or even the Home Ministry). Correction is carried out by means of providing the injection-dose at the airport, and levying a fee. I have personally been without a Health Book in various parts of Africa in the past, yet they have been lenient. There is too much arbitrary "dictatorship" being enacted by various Govt departments in South Africa these days, taking queue from top levels of Government who have begun behaving like complete arrogant idiots without knowledge or foresight!Report Abuse
TheTruthShallSetsUFree
Let South Africa close all Nigeria businesses in their country and we will do the same in Nigeria and see who will blink first. Let all the SA companies begin to pack their loads and return to SA. It is high time Nigerians started our own xenophobia and start dealing mercilessly with all the South Africans in our land. Enough is enough!!!Report Abuse
TheTruthShallSetsUFree
The problem is that many South Africans don't know the roles Nigeria played in contributing to the freedom they are enjoying today. Go and ask Mandela and Ibeki. They will tell you more. They had acknowledged many times that without Nigeria supports during the apartheid, your country would have been in slavery forever.Report Abuse
TheTruthShallSetsUFree
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9jaboy
@meme...dalu nwannem ka Chineke gozie gi.....Report Abuse
Alues
@ Sukamania. you are a Nigerian in Nigeria. Am a Nigerian / South African citizen in SA. try to immagine how am feeling right now with these BS issues. I must tell you, you are 95% correct with your comments and am with you all the way on this particular issue.1. One of the valid requirements to obtain an SA visa is a yellow card showing evidence of Yellow Fever immunization. How could the SA High Commission in Nigeria issue visas to people with "fake" yellow cards?
2. What were the convincing evidence that the Yellow Cards were all fake? How can 125 people all have fake yellow cards?
3. International protocol in diplomacy requires that when u have such an issue involving large number of people from a certain country, you are expected to, at least, inform the Govt of that country through their Ambassador. SA completely ignored a basic rule of diplomacy.
4. A Nigerian Senator, which is an equivalent of a US Senator, was involved in this shameful deportation. A Senator typically travels with a Diplomatic passport and deserves all the due protocols accorded a foreign dignitary. How can SA embarrass a Nigerian Senator? Can that same treatment be given to a US Senator?
5. Why didn't the SA Govt./Immigration quarantine the people for a few hours, give them Yellow Fever immunization and charge them for it?
6. Is Yellow Fever worst than HIV? SA has one of the worst HIV records in the world and yet lots of SA people still travel to Nigeria daily.
7. Couldn't this have been handled more decently than resorting to provocative deportation?
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Alues
For all is worth, Politicans are less human in nature. Let our governments tell us what the problem is . As a Nigerian / South African citizen. Am trying to say both nations, how we think and act is like daily food for me. This issue of yellow card vaccination is a cover up. 9ja & Southy government? what is the matter? An owal cried in the night and a baby died in the morning. AU election just concluded and things did not go well as expected by some people. Is that the real issue? Yellow fever card? No, not now and not ever will 9ja government nor SA react so immature to yellow fever. 1. that is discrimination aganist yellow fever.. Where is certificate for HIV, CANCER, ASTHMA, DIABETIES, DEPRESSION. To deport 125 Nigerians in the name of yellow card is a total madness. I understand immigration matters very well. In 2008, I was very, very and over questioned in Nigeria by a Nigerian immigration as they claim or beleive that I am not a Nigerian and that my Nigerian passport is or was fake. I bi Bendel boy. In 2011 August when my pretty baby girl was born, during baby registration with home affairs rep in Joburg Gen, the lady was asking for my resident permit at the hospital even when my ID says South African Citizen. Some times, some people over do their job(s) for some stupid and personal selfish reasons, ok. but to deport 125 people for stupid yellow card is unthinkable. I love both my government and for the sake of that love, please what it is, that warm that is eating you both out, find a cure as that warm can be worst than HIV and CANCER.Report Abuse
liveanddieinsa
Most of u guys here are illitrates,u don't know history,u don't know economics,u don't know international relations,u don't know geography,u don't know politics and u write rubbish on this page out of ignorance.u use sensitive words because u are unemployed and hungry,come on,read,travel,get out of ur locations,travel to other countries and get educationed.all of u don't even know south Africa history,funny.Report Abuse
liveanddieinsa
9jaboy...u are trying to educate gross illitrates,angry people from birth,people who dislike themselves what good do u expect from them towards others,from them u hear things like xenophobia,apartheid,leave them alone,only ur comments are logical to me,others are reacting out of frustration and poverty...just sign out let them accuse themselves and government,they need more education.Report Abuse
RobinH
liveanddieinsa: So seeing as we are all so thick, why not impart some of your wonderful wisdom. Enlighten the poor dim people of South Africa. We eagerly await the blessing of your sage thoughts.Report Abuse
liveanddieinsa
RobinH,impact wisdom on people who think SA is everything on earth?people who are hostile to everything around them?u guys must enlighting urselfs.Report Abuse
MommaC
Good Gods !!!Are there really so many completely ignorant and blind stupid Nigerians around as we see on this page?
It seems that not one of the cretins actually knows what yellow fever is and they all think that cancer and HIV are transmitted by mosquitoes. And I thought our education was defective. With that kind of ignorance, I'm impressed that they manage to get the right sh*es on the right feet every morning. No wonder their country has a high risk rating for yellow fever. Half of the ignorant sods are actively trying to murder their fellow Nigerians with liver infesting parasites.
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RobinH
liveanddieinsa: With a name like that your attitude is most curious. Listen, you arrogant SOB, I for one am quite happy with my form of enlightenment. Arrogance such as yours can shove its opinions in a nice warm and tight spot.Report Abuse
JahNeh
@KatakataEmaotoAditshepeApology means acceptance that u wronged.
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No Sir. It simply means we've got mature leadership, who do not behave like Primadonnas and divas like a certainForeign Minister Olugbenga Ashiru. What a clown, no wonder Boko Haram doesn't recognise that kak government.
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JahNeh
@liveanddieinsaRobinH,impact wisdom on people who think SA is everything on earth?
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It's impart wisdom NOT impact wisdom, you "educated" and "enlightened" twat!
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Prade101
259 comments of h*tred, xen#phobia, discr@mininatio, criticism and rac%sm's spewing, what is really the issue here? The fact that every country has it's own social-economic issues, which doesn't necessarily means one is better than the other, we need to face the facts here, South African constitution is deeply flawed and it's to blamed for most of it's problems, how many South African's drug traffickers have been executed in other countries? and how many foreign drug traffickers are back on South African's street after serving two years in jail? How many of South Africa's Politicians really serve the people they are supposed to serve genuine passion other than themselves? Does this make South Africans better than other Nationals? I do not wish to partake in these baseless bickering of xenophobia and I'm deeply disappointed in many of the previous commentators. No one is perfect good day everyone and have a splendid weekend.Report Abuse
Dzel
To all Nigerians who have commented,1. Fight against apartheid.
I keep on hearing you guys talking about Nigeria playing a key role in liberating SA from apartheid, this cannot go unchallenged. Countries who can claim credit for aiding black south Africans are Zambia from where uMkhonto Wesizwe (MK) operated, Tanzania which was home to many South African exiles and where children of liberation heroes were sent to study at Solomon
Mahlangu camp, Namibia (SWAPO) and Angola who fought alongside MK and Cuban soldiers to liberate the then South West Africa (Namibia). Other countries who played cameo roles are Lesotho, Swaziland and Botswana who acted as gateways to Africa and exile, these countries we regularly bombed for assisting fleeing fre.edom fighter who were on their way to join APLA, MK and other liberation forces.
What exactly did Nigeria do for us?
2. Nigerian investment in SA,
Again a point I need clarity on, Nigerians if not involved in drug dealing tend to own cellphone repair shops and small businesses. The sum total of these small operations is negligible in the bigger s.cheme not even accounting for 0.00001% of our GDP, if Nigeria feels they want to disinvest they can go ahead but I suppose the net effect would be a few hundred people losing their jobs but the rest of us won’t feel the difference.
3. SA Investments in Nigeria,
Nigeria is a big market for South African accounting for a large portion of your GDP; these companies in turn pay taxes which keeps Nigeria running. It would be sad to see drastic action but it has to be pointed out that that would be biting the hand that feeds you. Investment creates jobs, it generates tax revenue and these companies are involved is social development programmes meant to benefit the people of Nigeria. If you feel you want to play hard ball then go ahead but that would lead to massive disinvestment in your country and would send a negative message to other investors and potential investors so be very careful of this double edged sword.
Whilst I am not sure of actually contribution to our Gross National Product (GNP) it is absurd to think revenue from Nigerian markets are significant in the bigger s.cheme of things, I don’t think this market accounts for anything above 2% of total GNP and I am being liberal with the figure. Of course the companies will feel the impact but in the bigger s.cheme of things we will be just OK.
4. Immigration stand-off,
This is South Africa; we have our own immigration laws which you have to follow however silly you may think the laws are. If one is not compliant with stipulation we have every right to act in accordance with our laws. If you are not happy with immigration laws then please feel fre.e to stay in your country, no one is forcing you to come to our shores. Similarly you have you laws which you can implement as you see fit.
You have to understand we as South Africans are offended by a Nigerian government that feels they can dictate what SA should and should not do in our country. If your government is childish enough to turn what is essentially an immigration issue into a political stand-off then so be it. We can play this tit for tat game but I assure you only a few planes would leave Nigeria but the traffic going the other way will be very significant, a few hundred planes if not thousands would be required to fly all Nigerians in SA legally and illegally. At least then the drug problem will be reduced significantly and we can finally have the space to breath in peace.
5. Conclusion
Whilst it is true that not every Nigerian is involved in criminal activity it has to be said a significant portion of Nigerians are. True, corruption by South Africans aids these criminals but that does not change the fact nor justify what Nigerians are doing in our country. I would have been happier had there been an collective voice from Nigerians living in South Africa condemning their fellow countrymen but there silence is defining. Your government is not doing anything to try reign in on criminal activity instead we are flooded one would think Nigeria has a policy to ship its worst citizens to South Africa.
What scares me is this situation is likely to escalate as more and more people fall victim. The concept of street justice is not lost on the ordinary South African and soon there might be an incident where someone gets hurt and this will be blamed on xenophobia yet we forget no one wants to be disrespected in their backyard. I disagree with mob justice but you also have to look at contributors to this undesirable phenomenon.
Just respect South Africa as your hosts where permanently residing here and just passing by, respect our laws and respect our communities especially our children. I will not come to Nigeria and start pissing on your table, you wouldn’t like that. I you live in South Africa and complain of being victimised for being Nigerian my question to you is what have you done to reign in your fellow countrymen?
Do you expect South Africans to suffer at the hands of Nigerians and not have a negative reaction to all Nigerians? I know it is unfair on you but what are we to do when Nigerians are busy destroying our beautiful country and murdering our children?
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mangos
My dear, Nigerian men make very good bed mates and surely they can fcuk your brain out with their Sizey Lethal weapons!! - but the good ends right in the bedroom - they are not available emotionally, they will use you to achieve their selfish ends.They will go home and mary their own and life goes on....who loose? You do! In the end, you will be battered emotionally and finished physically and drained mentally. My advice: if it is good sex you after - enjoy it but never ever think you can fall in love with them - you are not a match for their mentality. Stick with our SA Brothers, they are atleast considerate and emotionally available!! If it is size you after --- go further to Limpopo -- men from that part of SA do not disappointReport Abuse
Dzel
A question was asked about other nationals involved in crime in SA; fair enough we have imported criminals from all over the world and of all races. But I know of only one nation that has turned entire city blocks, entire suburbs into drug and prostitution infested slums that nation unfortunately is Nigeria. Not even our nearest neighbours Zimbabwe who have millions of Zimbabwe living in SA legally and illegally have managed this feat so why you feel sorry for yourselves just think about what it is that fuels h.ate for Nigerians.This beyond feeling threatened competing for jobs, it is about the negative impact the Nigerian community has in South Africa. Yes not all Nigerians are criminals but so many are that the lines are now blurred and every Nigerians feels this h.ate directly. This incident will serve to deepen that hatred, all it did was reveal the arrogance and contempt with which Nigerians threats our government with.
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liveanddieinsa
@RobinH @jahneh...its not about insults,I can't compete with u guys cos its what u leave in.my message is simple.get facts before u show ur ignorance to d public.Report Abuse
Prade101
I'm a Nigerian living and working in South Africa, I do not support crime and I do agree that we have a lot of rotten potatoes amongst us, drug traffikcing, prostitution and human traffikcing are a few of the crimes fellow countrymen perpetrated especially here in SA, unfortunately, we are generalised as all criminals, I dare the SA government to tighen their laws on crime in general so as to create a safer enviroment for it's citizens.Report Abuse
Prade101
If countries like China, Saudi Arabia even Nigeria can serves maximum of between life and execution to serious offenders why can't SA do the same, do it not because you want to portray SA as a civilised nation to the international communities but because you want to make a better and safer place for it's inhabitant.Report Abuse
JahNeh
@liveanddieinsaYou can't compete with us period.
My education qualifications are not fakes bought off the street like you Yellow Fever certificates.
That's why I get the big buck$.
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Sukamania
This is the latest development from this face-off:1. SA Govt. has tendered an "Unreserved Apology" to the Nigerian Govt and it's people over this issue.
2. SA Govt. has acknowledged that not all the people who were deported had invalid yellow cards and deserved to be deported.
3. SA Govt. is planning to follow this up by sending an envoy to tender a formal letter of apology to the Nigerian President/Govt.
4. SA Govt. plans to carry out yellow fever immunization at the airports for people without yellow fever cards.
Looking at the above points, it is easy to see where the SA went wrong and why the apology is well deserved.
For those who are still wondering what role Nigeria played in liberating SA from Apartheid, plse note this fact:
Your ex-President Thabo Mbeki lived extensively in Nigeria, in a Lagos surburb called Surulere, during the apartheid era. So also were tens of thousands of other black SAfricans. Nigerian harboured your peopled, provided for them financially, nurtured them, gave them scholarships to study in various Nigerian Unversities. Nigeria went into a diplomatic fight with Britain because of apartheid. Nigeria led African voices and opinions as far apartheid was concerned, Nigeria led African commenwealth nations to boycot commonwealth meetings and sports events. It was Nigerian effort that led to apartheid ending "so soon" so that you people could live a normal life. If you choose to be ungrateful and disrespectful, then posterity may not forgive your country and your future generations. Your leaders have realised this much, hence the apology being tendered on your behalf.
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Warren
Liveandieinnigeria-not satravel to other countries and get educationed.all of u don't even know south Africa history,funny
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What is to get EDUCATIONED oh wise one? U are just another illiterate nigerian ar.sehole trying to get smart with us here as usual. U say people must get facts bfore they show their ignorance in public? How about you getting adult literacy classes bfore showing your illiteracy in public? vtsek man.
@Dzel
Thanks for the comprehensive download disproving this scammers claim to our liberation. It shows how this scammers think they can scam themselves into our liberation history and then hold our country at ransom for their claims.
They can hold at ransom only those that invested in their country,not the whole of S.A.
Why must we allow nigerians to ransack and plunder our country,destroy our children with drugs and vice and disrespect us and our country just because a handful individuals and their families are benefitting from investments in nigeria? k.ak man.
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Dzel
Sukamania,Looking at the above points, it is easy to see where the SA went wrong and why the apology is well deserved.
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No, the South African is mature enough to roll-over and play dead in the interests of resolving this impasse even if it means they have to accept responsibility for the actions of your childish government. The danger is their actions will be misunderstood by people like you. Your government deported people without just cause in a childish display of reciprocal punitive action, they could have sorted this out using diplomatic channels and not made a scene where one was necessary and you are short-sighted enough to consider this a victory. You have no idea how small-minded this makes you look like.
With regards to apartheid it is true that Mbeki was the ANC’s representative in Nigeria but let us overstate your role in the fight against apartheid. Apartheid started falling apart in the late 70s starting with the 1976 uprising followed closely by Steve Biko’s death in 1977, both events served to raise international awareness of what apartheid was really about. It wasn’t until early 80s that SA started burning; the state of emergency in 86 and eventually the government started getting seriously broke and could not sustain apartheid any longer due to international sanctions. These are events that broke apartheid’s back cemented by a resounding NO vote in 1990 which paved the way for the unbanning of political parties and an advent of democracy.
To state we owe our freedom to Nigeria is indicative of one who does not understand history, whilst not under stating the role played by other African states it suffices to say SA got more support from Cuba and Russia; financially, logistically and men fighting on the ground (Cuba in Angola) than anything from Nigeria. It makes no sense that you want us to be held hostage by history when Nigeria’s role was marginal. We appreciate all the support we got but let us not blow it out of proportion for self-serving purposes.
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Warren
JahNehwho do not behave like Primadonnas and divas like a certainForeign Minister Olugbenga Ashiru. What a clown, no wonder Boko Haram doesn't recognise that kak government.
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Interesting observation. Imagine investing in a country where the slightes diplomatic spat can lead to overreaction and calls for retaliation, impounding and seizure of your businesses by the state. Typical primitive style of governance.
S.A. businesses with investments in nigeria must not expect that we as a nation,will always bend over and be kicked in the ar.se by direspectful nigerians, just bcos they invested heavily in that lawless place called nigeria. We cant be expected to watch our laws being spat on,kiss drug dealers and thieves ar.ses while they destroy our children and in the meantime those few that benefit are provided with protection from all this.
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Warren
@SukamaniaYour leaders have realised this much, hence the apology being tendered on your behalf.
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Get this one clear pls,That apology is not on our behalf,but on behalf of themselves,their fatcat families,their political careers and business interests in nigeria. Period.
We are a proud nation that will not apoligize to people that seek to destroy our country with vice.
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9jaBigBoy
@ 9JABOY, Please let me know where you saw the pretty SA babes in London. Do not mind some of these clueless and uncivilised haters who do not understand International Diplomacy as simple as it is.Report Abuse
Dzel
Warren,S.A. businesses with investments in nigeria must not expect that we as a nation,will always bend over and be kicked in the ar.se by direspectful nigerians, just bcos they invested heavily in that lawless place called nigeria. We cant be expected to watch our laws being spat on,kiss drug dealers and thieves ar.ses while they destroy our children and in the meantime those few that benefit are provided with protection from all this.
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My concern is if the Nigeria government is not mature enough and does not have the required foresight to handle a simple situation like this as one would expect from a responsible government would then we can expect to see Nigeria throw a tantrum every time some Senator needs to make news headlines. It is not good for your country, the country you are hosting and investment in general.
When we were about to host the World Cup it was Nigeria who were telling us we will fail but after a successful tournament every African country wanted to share in the success of the tournament which is good but it does not change the fact that fellow Africans wanted to see us fail. This acrimony is not new, someone Nigeria seems to have beef with South Africa one that seems to be mo.tivated by jealously more than anything else.
If Africa is to advance we need to move past these petty politics, I would have expected better leadership from Africa one that is not reliant on blackmail or throwing your light-weight around. Nigerians just need to grow up, get over themselves and accept that we have laws that need to be respected by every visitor to our country and complied with. It is this pointless politicking that prevents Africa from moving forward. Instead of progressive engagement all we've achieved is revert back to hostilities and ordinary Nigerians seem to enjoy watching their government pick a pointless fight in the school's playground which makes one wonder.
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Dzel
9jaBigBoy,Please let me know where you saw the pretty SA babes in London. Do not mind some of these clueless and uncivilised haters who do not understand International Diplomacy as simple as it is.
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Oh, and your government understands international diplomacy?
Do you consider throwing out people who have not done anything wrong out in a revenge attack amounts to international diplomacy?
By the way you keep on talking about our HIV rates yet you love SA women, I am honestly to hear of a South African man dating a Nigerian woman.
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Sukamania
The fundamental truth is this:SA is a young nation, less than 20 yrs post-apartheid. I guess the country still has a lot of learning/ growing up to do as far as international diplomacy and basic respect for people are concerned.
Nigerian voice has a lot of weight in global affairs and represents the African continent and this will remain so for decades to come. SA will always play second fiddle to Nigeria. The earlier people realise this the better, so stop disrespecting Nigerians.
SA has acknowledged the flaw in the immigration procedure and accepted the fact that some people were deprted wrongly. Why don't you guys accept that?
Nigerians going to Europe are not expected to present Yellow fever immunization card, because there's no known case of yellow fever in Nigeria since 1995 and the Europeans know this fact. How come SA is operating with an outdated immigration procedure and has refused to be pragmatic.
There is a history of excessive abuses by South African authorities of Nigerian citizens visiting or residing in South Africa. In 2005, Nobel Laureate Wole Soyinka was denied entry into South Africa by immigration officials despite having been invited officially to speak as a guest at a lecture organised to mark former President Nelson Mandela’s birthday. Anyone with Soyinka’s pedigree would be rightly outraged to be denied entry into a country in which he was officially invited after being delayed for over eight hours at the airport.
In 2001, Nigerian Aviation Minister Kema Chikwe was detained by South Africa’s Port Health and denied entry into the country on the ground that she did not possess a valid vaccination card. When the authorities persisted that the minister must be inoculated or denied entry into South Africa, the minister told them to go and jump into the river. She maintained her stand and let the authorities know the choice before them was to let her enter the country or she would go back to Nigeria. The matter was eventually resolved.
One reason for the maltreatment of Nigerians in SA is that it is an extension of the high level of xenophobia in SA. It is no secret that Nigerians and other Africans are hated and targeted by official and unofficial groups in SA. Intolerance of foreigners is widespread in South Africa. Unfortunately, such intense dislike of foreigners is driven by the misleading impression that foreigners are taking over the jobs that South Africans ought to perform. SA people need to be hard working and compete for opportunities. There are thousands of ill-qualified SA people that are taking jobs in Nigeria through MTN and other SA companies. Rather than making lots of fuss over an error committed by your Govt, SA people need to recognise the error and move on.
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9jaBigBoy
@Dzel, Listen, get over this. First, Do you think Your Foreign Affairs Ministry was wrong in apologising? Examine the facts of the case objectively and do not allow sentiments to blind your sense of reasoning. YOUR EMBASSY IN NIGERIA DO NOT ISSUE VISAS WITHOUT HEALTH CLEARANCE. In other words, for them to give visa approval, it indicates that they are satisfied that all requirements have been met.Secondly, Under IATA rules, if a health officer at the airport is not satisfied, he can quarantine a traveller, get him to take a shot and charge him for it. That s a more rational way of doing things. You cannot deport 125 persons on a trumped up excuse and expect a handshake. Maybe Nigeria should start asking SA travellers for HIV test certificate.
Nigeria was one of the countries that championed South African's cause to end Apartheid. It s an undeniable fact. What we have is a mutual relationship. If SA companies leave Nigeria, there are more than one thousand companies that are ready to take over. With or Without SA, Nigeria will be great and without Nigeria, SA will be fine too. If Nigerians engage in illegal activities in SA, what is your police doing about it? Given, if they are caught, prosecute them according to the law and deport them.
Let s not kid ourselves, the Nigerian community in SA has made and is making great contributions to SA's economy. Economic activities have a multiplier effects and most of the time, it s a positive one. Finally, on a lighter note, SA women love Nigerian men because we know how to take care of a woman both in bed and out of bed. Also, Nigerians are hardworking. Maybe that s the real grouse some of you have against us or is it because we denied Mrs. Zuma the AU chairmanship.
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Warren
SukamaniaNigerian voice has a lot of weight in global affairs and represents the African continent and this will remain so for decades to come. SA will always play second fiddle to Nigeria. The earlier people realise this the better, so stop disrespecting Nigerians.
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I should be laughing at the above claims but my humanity forbids me to. Are you sure you are okay oga?
In exactly which stakes is S.A playing second fiddle to nigeria? In the fornication stakes which we dont want to compete for,yes, but further than that, in your dreams oga.
Sukamania again:
One reason for the maltreatment of Nigerians in SA is that it is an extension of the high level of xenophobia in SA. It is no secret that Nigerians and other Africans are hated and targeted by official and unofficial groups in SA. Intolerance of foreigners is widespread in South Africa. Unfortunately, such intense dislike of foreigners is driven by the misleading impression that foreigners are taking over the jobs that South Africans ought to perform. SA people need to be hard working and compete for opportunities.
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One reason for the alleged maltreatment of nigerians in SA is their high level of dilluisioned attitude that they have to be treated differently from other nations just because they offer huge markets for S.A. businesses. S.A. business has been thriving for years bfore the first nigerian set up tent in S.A. as recent as the 90's. In fact,the reason why nigerians flock to S.A. ,is bcos of the thriving businesses in S.A ,so lose that we have the market attitude bcos you are not even a tenth of our market.
It is no secret that nigerian southerners are the most disliked in S.A bcos they export vice and moral degeneration to other African countries and hide behind other Africans whem they are confronted. It is not unusual to hear a nigerian drug dealer or thief claim to be a victim of xenophobia and h.ate for all
Africans,when you confront him for his crime as an individual. Thats an outdated trick to gain sympathy that. Stop hiding behind other Africans bcos they are not involved in the disrespectful activities that you do in other countries.
Nigerian southerners need to recognise that they are disliked for their world renowned criminal culture and not bcos they are Africans.
S.A businesses have made great contributions to the nigerian economy,even inspiring business from other countries to venture there. Keep allowing your stupid politicians to use investors assets as political pawns and your dream to prosper will remain just a dream forever.
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Warren
They claim to be progressing towards the rating of an economic powerhouse in the next few years,but their politicians uses outside investors assests as political tools for revenge at the slightest perceived provocation and they all cheer and claim victory.LOL, what a backward bunch of commercially illiterate goons. I rest my case.
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Sukamania
Warren,What do you make of your govt. acknowledging that there was an error in the way the deportation was carried out? That some people were deported even when it was clear that their yellow cards were valid? Why don't u turn the searchlight on the process and stop attacking people.
With this sense of arrogance and pride that you guys display, Nigeria will continue to display a big brother role to you and your govt. This thing has been going on for a while but this will be the last time.
Does it surprise you when your govt had to tender an "unreserved apology" to the Nigerian people and govt and accept the errors of the of the immigration officials? Your govt said they r not expecting any similar apology from Nigeria for deporting SAfricans. Infact, they are following that up with sending a diplomat to Abuja to go and deliver a hard copy of the apology letter, with a promise to effect drastic changes and behave better next time. That's what you get when you provoke a bigger nation - global embarrassment. That's what America or UK would do to you if you treat their citizens inordinately.
I like it when Nigeria demanded that the immigration officials be punished and all the expenses of the 125 Nigerians be refunded. This is not about using investors assets as apolitical tool, it's about the fact that certian things were not done right or handled rightly and u guys have refused to see things from that point of view.
I am happy your govt officials are wiser than ur comments and saved the situation.
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Yorubaman
No doubt there will be some Nigerians who will give in to sentiments of capricious triumphalism.Particularly when really there aren't that many triumphs to cheer. Not all Nigerians are like that. Sadly on this forum there are too many who give in to to the mental shorthand of generalization.Coming to this site over the last 24 hours one might think SA and Nigeria are at war! There is so much going on in the world and people on both sides of the divide really need to wake up to that.@Warren I do not endorse it but it is naive to believe countries do not pull these levers.Freezing of assets,imposing sanctions on those who trade with those who trade with our enemies etc.Sound familiar?
South African government and no one else needs to deal with criminal Nigerians or those who are there illegally.In that effort they have my full support.If they commit crimes deserving of the death penalty by all means execute them.
There can be no excuse for generalizing from those miscreants to ALL Nigerians or justification for some of the other rabble rousing remarks on display hear e.g I h.ate Nigerians.etc
Sadly South Africans are teaching this to their kids now.
In real time it is easy to join a mob but mobs never build anything they only destroy.
To my Nigerian brethren harping on about apartheid era help; THERE IS NO DEBT so give it a rest!
Whatever might have been done was done for our own dignity and peace of mind and the payment was in the doing.South Africans would have done the same.
Peace to my SA but remember h.ate only harms the h.ater ,that has always been the case
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Yorubaman
@Sukamania.Take it easy.I find it hard to agree with you.It was an unpleasant situation for both countries.SA apologised because it was the correct thing to do.Leave the bigger nation and provocative rhetoric.It is not foolishness to be silent.In my opinion it takes a big man or nation to say sorry.Pursuing a nihilist path was to no one's benefit and triumphalism right now is just ugly.
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Yorubaman
@Dzel I agree with you that SA owes their freedom to no one but themselves ultimately that is the truth.Nigeria and many others offered solidarity in your struggles and it is my hope that Africans will continue to offer solidarity to each other till that day when we,too will stand proud among other continents.Still I believe that if there is a failure to deal with criminal Nigerians in SA that is SA's responsibilty.
The deportation of 125 Nigerians was the WRONG solution.Those who took that action failed to consider the consequences.
If the feeling in SA is so strong now that there should be no relationship between the two countries then by all means elect a government that will effect that.Otherwise you have to manage the troublesome Nigerians without "throwing the baby away with the bath water".
As a Nigerian I admit that there are many Nigerian criminals you must take into account the fact that Nigeria has 16% of the population of Africa which may cause Nigerians to be more visible. In that regard when compared with other large population nations like India or China I don't believe that Nigerians are more criminal than these two countries e.g. We deserve to be treated as "Innocent until proven guilty " always. I believe there are more Nigerians in places like the UK or USA than SA though the numbers have grown over a much longer period and perhaps after the apartheid era immigration was allowed too rapidly.That is an issue for your government to manage by reducing the number of visas issued and ejecting illegal migrants NOT deporting those with valid visaa
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Dzel
9jaBigBoy,First, Do you think Your Foreign Affairs Ministry was wrong in apologising? Examine the facts of the case objectively and do not allow sentiments to blind your sense of reasoning.
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I am happy the government has taken a matured stance and acted in a manner that defuses tension. I am unhappy at the reaction of the Nigerian government though; I think it was childish, immature, and irresponsible not only because it seeks to bully and blackmail but because it sends a wrong message and highly inflammatory. Your government needs to grow up and act responsibly, South Africa deserves better than to be treated like a beggar who does not have access to recourse. We could have easily responded in kind and perhaps we should have but like I said it would have been rather pointless beyond stroking our egos.
I am unhappy that South Africa has been projected in negative light in Nigeria when blame should lay squarely on your citizens and your government who have created these hostilities. Right now thi has filtered down to our level, again I am not happy with attitudes displayed by your countrymen thinking Nigerians can go around bullying people as if we are incapable of hitting back and hitting back hard. You guys need to show us and our country a bit more respect. Nigeria is not the be all and end all of all matters African; you’d be best advised to remember that.
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Secondly, Under IATA rules, if a health officer at the airport is not satisfied, he can quarantine a traveller, get him to take a shot and charge him for it.
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Yellow fever shots are meant to be administered 10 days prior to your visit. The facts around this case were unpacked nicely on Soccer Africa (DSTv) last night, the issue is not whether the certificates were forged or not but rather the timing of the injections being administered and travelling before the number of days that should have lapsed before travelling to SA.
It boils down to poor planning by the delegation and all blame has been shifted towards SA which makes no sense at all. Quarantining the passengers would have caused a bigger diplomatic scandal and who foots the bill for costs incurred. Judging by the Nigerian government’s reaction they would have expected SA to carry the costs, why should we when clearly it is Nigerians who created this crisis by not following procedure and acting out when this comes back to bite them.
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If SA companies leave Nigeria, there are more than one thousand companies that are ready to take over. With or Without SA, Nigeria will be great and without Nigeria
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This is precisely what disturbs me about Nigeria. You guys need to decide whether you want investment in your country or not, if the decision is yes you need to understand investors will into operate with a gun pointed to their head at all times or whenever your politicians want to play hardball. It leaves a bitter taste in one’s mouth every time you are threatened with expulsion and this is where political maturity comes in. Deal with political problem through the right channels and stop threatening us every time you want to throw a tantrum. Trueth is we need each other; SA needs access to Nigerian markets which admittedly are huge, in return the government benefits through taxes which one assumes are used for social development. Why then do you want to make South African companies feel like beggars when all stakeholders benefit and there is as much in it for your country as there is for SA companies. You guys just need to grow up.
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If Nigerians engage in illegal activities in SA, what is your police doing about it? Given, if they are caught, prosecute them according to the law and deport them.
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Again one would expect your country to export quality citizens who represent Brand Nigeria wherever they are, it is in your interests as it is brand Nigeria that suffers. I would expect some accountability from you guys but because you pass the buck to us is it unreasonable for all Nigerians to be treated with scepticism. If you want to disown the problem that’s fine by me but don’t complain about being grouped and judged as Nigerians when you are not willing to be part of the solution.
You nationals bring problems to South Africa, it is important to approach this from that angle I cannot understand how your nation can wash its hands of actions by Nigerians.
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Let s not kid ourselves, the Nigerian community in SA has made and is making great contributions to SA's economy.
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You are talking like someone who has not been to South Africa. Stop using grand terms like “great contribution” that exposes ignorance. I ask you here and now to name the top 5 Nigerian investors in SA and quantify their investments and let’s see if they are indeed “great”. I bet you you can’t even name three yet you use these loosely and without the right information.
On South African women; some SA woman just love money and Nigerians are seen as cash cows. It has little to do with your potency in and out of the bedroom; trust me on this one.
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Dzel
Yorubaman,Take it easy.I find it hard to agree with you.It was an unpleasant situation for both countries.SA apologised because it was the correct thing to do.Leave the bigger nation and provocative rhetoric.It is not foolishness to be silent.
In my opinion it takes a big man or nation to say sorry.Pursuing a nihilist path was to no one's benefit and triumphalism right now is just ugly.
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I appreciate the fact that you are objective and you try to put yourself in our sh.oes and understand our frustrations not only over the issue of deportations but also trying to understand why the negative general feelings towards Nigerians.
As a South African I do business with people of Nigerian origins. Just last week I bought an entire set of new tyres from a Nigerian dealer because I am careful of how I spend my money. I would rather spend on a black person regardless of country of origins than spend money on faceless white shareholders who take endless vacations. I have a preferred Nigerian whom I have used to fix old phones, buying vegetables etc so while I might come across as xenophobic I am actually pi-ed off by attitude in fact yesterday I was so pi-ed off I resolved not to support Nigerian businessmen.
See it cuts both ways; if you take punitive action and so can we and it will hurt so people need to be very careful of what they say because it informs opinion and even behaviour. What your government is saying can have undesirable consequences for Nigerians living in South Africa because WE are your market, not government.
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Yorubaman,As a Nigerian I admit that there are many Nigerian criminals you must take into account the fact that Nigeria has 16% of the population of Africa which may cause Nigerians to be more visible.
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Disagreed, there are far more Zimbabweans and Mozambique’s in SA perhaps more Pakistanis and Bangladeshi in SA yet they don’t give us as big a headache. See Nigerians tend to be involved in more hardcore crimes and they tend to be far more heartless and violent that all the other nations put together. Nigerians are also more destructive or atleast that is the South African experience.
To come into our country and force our young into drugs and prostitution is just unacceptable. To place false job adverts and take advantage of the fact that many of our people are unemployed and then force these young woman into being drug mules in unacceptable. The sooner Nigeria takes responsibility for their actions and starts being part of the solution little is going to change. If anything I see South Africans starting to react in kind and when Nigerians start being necklaced we will be accused of xenophobia. Own the problem now before this turns violent, we are patient people but we also know how to fight back and when we do it is not pretty.
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Naijaislord
@DzelClearly you are a bigot.
How can you say Nigerians are more criminal than Indians.You are a complete ignoramus.You expect Nigerians to keep quiet while you have a field day insulting them.Have you got any survey data before you come and say Nigerians are forcing girls into prostitution?
That is your dirty urban folklore
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Naijaislord
@Yorubaman I know you are never naija so stop deceiving yasef.These idiot Saffers that say everyone smells?
Have we not seen the yansh of your dirty girls with smelly toto
Go around saying Zimbabwe smell and that one smell
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Dzel
Naijaslord,I m not sure which Indians you are talking about but South Africans of Indian origin are infamous for being businessmen than criminals. Pakistanis and Bangladeshi who have recently immigrated to South Africa are also business minded and live with blacks in townships, same thing with Ethiopians.
Perhaps you think you know more about what happens in my country than I do, in that case please enlighten me.
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Dzel
Naija,Regarding smells, not everyone smells but some tend to have lax hygienic standards than others. this applies to South Africans, Zimbabweans, Nigerians, whit.es, blacks, Indians, etc.
Is it too much to ask that if you are going to be using public transport for example or work in an office environment please make sure you take care of all matters hygienic and ensure you don't impose yourself on others? Surely an investment in roll-on is not too much to ask or is it?
Those comments are informed by real life observations rather than an uncontrollable urge to be xenophobic at all times.
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Naijaislord
In the whole of Africa you have greatest appetite for drugs and drink why? you are weakWeak men with small weak penises and weak minds
Those Naija that you say are bullying you in SA those are weak Nigerians who got beaten out and can't stand the heat in Naija . I wonder how many of you Zulus can survive on the streets of any African country
check this out:
http://www.newser.com/story/47229/nigerian-gangsters-wage-turf-war-on-mob-in-southern-italy.html
Even Italian mafia know not not to mess with us. If I told my homeboys what is going on here we'll take over 10 comments to one so watch out!!
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Naijaislord
Does Nigeria manufacture cocaine or heroin or tik or the chemicals used to make drugs in SA?Ask the Chinese about that?
For your info those criminals in SA are what we call dropouts.Could not make the grade back home even as crooks.You deserve each other and are welcome to them.Maybe they will enhance your genetic pool!
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Dzel
See Naijaslord you are impressed by stupid things, what is there to be proud of when your countrymen export crime to foreign countries?On your first point SA is in a fortunate position that we have a vibrant economy and therefore have disposable income we spend on luxuries and vices; for some its prost.itution, others drugs but to conclude SA is a nation of mass users of pr.ostitute.s or drugs is a bit short-sighted. To then expand that and compare us to the rest of Africa is not only terminally short-sighted but it amounts to a basic misunderstanding of earning power and how this influences behavior.
To answer your question though we are no better nor worse than 1st world countries comparable to SA in terms of disposal incomes, etc. do you know the amount of alcohol consumed by the British for example?
Stop being one-tracked minded, if you want to make comparison it is important to understand exactly what it is you are comparing.
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Dzel
Naija,Does Nigeria manufacture cocaine or heroin or tik or the chemicals used to make drugs in SA?
Ask the Chinese about that?
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You are not very bright are you Naija, I see little point in engaging you any longer as I see nothing of substance coming from you. Gotta run, enjoy your evening kind sir.
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Naijaislord
Not very bright ! Coming from a Zu1u that makes me suicidal. Yea run away before I destroy your mental infrastucture.Who unleashed you that you come charging and me with frothy drooling mouth muttering and grimacing,Are you lost? Perhaps you need a dopamine rush or something?Go see your dealer!Quit with the lame smelly foreigner routine. You lot are quite filthy when it comes to personal hygiene.Bottom line how many litres of water do you have access to daily NOT ROLL ON
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Naija4Life
Good boy saffers for apologizing...now my lie down and let me put foot over you as my footstool...then be a good boy and go and get me some beer and don't forget to bring me one of your sisters when you come back...good boy...Report Abuse
Naijaislord
No your economy is NOT vibrant?By what metrics do you make such an asinine proclamation
Growth? don't be daft
Employment?You are having a laugh
I think you better give up the TIKPIPE?
And let the truth be told you my B4NTU friend whatever is good about your economy credit to the B0ER so don't gloat.
I reckon Nigerians contribute more than all ya B4ntus put together
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Naijaislord
Regarding the delusion that you are a high disposable income economy. No .The black South African is economical as unproductive and as destitute as black people every.That should concern you rather than cultivating a smug "House N1gga" mentality. The B0ER owns the SA economy
You unlike you I don't just open the hole in the skul and vomit smug fantasies.
The UN claims a qurater of your population live on less than $1.25 daily.
http://hdr.undp.org/en/media/HDI_2008_EN_Tables.pdf
I reckon they aint B0ER..
My dear brother black people have a problem so don't start thinking somehow you are better than the rest of us.
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Police
Don't worry SA, we'll let you win the next BIG Brother Africa. HeheheheReport Abuse
Omonaijanimio
Interesting thread. I am Nigerian. Live in Nigeria. Love it! Visited 11 countries in almost all continents. Worked in 3 countries (including SA) deploying technology on behalf of my global energy company (180 countries bro). Citizens of the world commit crime and also do good things wherever they find themselves. Most South Africans dont know this cos they're very simple and local. Please travel some. Why do South African women marry Nigerian men? Ask them why... hope your ego survives the answer. There are 400 SA companies here in naija. We also have several small and medium scale Nigerian companies in SA. We support the SA medical system with skilled and experienced doctors. Is SA a beautiful country? Yes. Would I live there? NO. Nigeria is also very beautiful and has limitless opportunities with the biggest market in Africa. Can Nigeria survive MTN and co leaving? They only got here yesterday. Will nationalize them in a minute. We did well without them and would continue to do so. We also have home grown Telcos (Glo, etc.) giving MTN a run for their money and also operating in other West African countries. Do we care if all Naijas in SA are deported? We are 160 million people. 4 in 10 black men is Nigerian. Who cares about illegal immigrants? Will Nigerians retaliate if even the illegals in SA are mistreated rather than being repatriated properly, if needed? Ask your government. They know. Can Nigeria go toe to toe with SA diplomatically? Ask Britain. We recently halted BA flights for messing with Arik airlines, and we kicked out the British and Nationalized BP in the 70s because of your sorry Black asses being enslaved by the Europeans. We need no favors from SA. We are no beggars - ask your women. We will survive and thrive anywhere - ask your women again. We are very loyal and proud... and SA is too inexperienced globally to mess with us. Our President is a PhD, while yours takes a bath and eats beetroot to prevent AIDS. BTW, after reading this comment, scoot to the front page of The Sowetan and see the abuses, murder, corruption, paedophilic and gerontophilic abuses being reported...were those also committed by Nigerians? Always looking for someone to blame are you? We are not Zimbabweans or any other panhandling SADAC folk. We will hit back where we can. A Nigerian did not become the richest African through BBE or apartheid era stolen lucre. Watch and learn fuckas.Report Abuse
Omonaijanimio
By the way, I love all South Africans...regardless of their hatred for naija folk. And all you naijas plying your trade (good or bad) in SA...they dont want you there. Please come home.Report Abuse
tetrasowetan
blawdy south africans always blaming others for their misfortune. I would take it yall ingrates are still teenagers and wouldn't have any clue the sacrifices naija made while y'all sorry arses were slaves in your own country. Now you have freedom of speech and you come here spewing menstrual blood outta your sorry gutter mouths. Go take lessons in history and learn kids. idiots!Report Abuse
lagos_boy11
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WOOHOOOOO MY RIB CRACKS I CANT STOP LAFFING AT YA ALLWE RE THE BIGGEST BROTHER OF AFRICA AND YOU SAns DONT DARE WE WILL BEAT YOU GUYS UP EVEN IN SOUTIE AND IN NAIJA AND EVERY WHERE IN THE WORLD HIV AIDS INFECTED FOOLS WITH FATTEST BUTTS IN THE WORLD,YOU DEPORT 125NAIJAS AND WE DEPORT 168 SAns HAHAHAHAHAHAHA WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO
EVEN HERE IN CHINA SOUTHS CANT OPEN MOUTH AT NIGERIANZ HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
MUDDA FUCKERS
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coolzeal
Am a Nigerian and I've read all the comments on this blog and this really shows the deep hatred South Africans has for Nigerians, and i feel so sad. So far so good they are so many South African companies operating in Nigeria, profiting bigger than the ones in your country, e.g Mtn, Dstv, Banks etc. Moreover we also have some huge investment in your country as well. Some of my friends are from Pretoria and they are living and working in Nigeria as well and others too. Deporting 125 Nigerians, held them for 24hrs without food and water, some are little kids, infant and women and not consulting our embassy before sending them away is wrong, I have a feeling, this is not done because of yellow card but just to maltreat Nigerians. South Africans push drugs too, have HIV and commit crimes just like Nigerians, so no one is perfect and pls stop pointing fingers at us.. thank you..Report Abuse
lagos_boy11
"Interesting thread. I am Nigerian. Live in Nigeria. Love it! Visited 11 countries in almost all continents. Worked in 3 countries (including SA) deploying technology on behalf of my global energy company (180 countries bro). Citizens of the world commit crime and also do good things wherever they find themselves. Most South Africans dont know this cos they're very simple and local. Please travel some. Why do South African women marry Nigerian men? Ask them why, hope your ego survives the answer. There are 400 SA companies here in naija. We also have several small and medium scale Nigerian companies in SA. We support the SA medical system with skilled and experienced doctors. Is SA a beautiful country? Yes. Would I live there? NO. Nigeria is also very beautiful and has limitless opportunities with the biggest market in Africa. Can Nigeria survive MTN and co leaving? They only got here yesterday. Will nationalize them in a minute. We did well without them and would continue to do so. We also have home grown Telcos (Glo, etc.) giving MTN a run for their money and also operating in other West African countries. Do we care if all Naijas in SA are deported? We are 160 million people. 4 in 10 black men is Nigerian. Who cares about illegal immigrants? Will Nigerians retaliate if even the illegals in SA are mistreated rather than being repatriated properly, if needed? Ask your government. They know. Can Nigeria go toe to toe with SA diplomatically? Ask Britain. We recently halted BA flights for messing with Arik airlines, and we kicked out the British and Nationalized BP in the 70s because of your sorry Black asses being enslaved by the Europeans. We need no favors from SA. We are no beggars - ask your women. We will survive and thrive anywhere - ask your women again. We are very loyal and proud, and SA is too inexperienced globally to mess with us. Our President is a PhD, while yours takes a bath and eats beetroot to prevent AIDS. BTW, after reading this comment, scoot to the front page of The Sowetan and see the abuses, murder, corruption, paedophilic and gerontophilic abuses being reported, were those also committed by Nigerians? Always looking for someone to blame are you? We are not Zimbabweans or any other panhandling SADAC folk. We will hit back where we can. A Nigerian did not become the richest African through BBE or apartheid era stolen lucre. Watch and learn fuckas".Report Abuse
Omonaijanimio
See news tem from Sowetan. Did Nigerians also fake those licenses? Look inwards for your problems and stop stereotyping. Lazy bitches. You're just as corrupt as anyone else.Fake licenses - Staff investigated, learners' documents nullified
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Omonaijanimio
I'll monitor Monday's news and try to find a Nigerian crime in SA. Xenophobic muthafuckas. The Hendrik and Frik's are watching to see all y'all self destruct and he takes over...And they're all over Nigeria doing business and forming alliances. Better solve your own problems and stop blaming naijas. Which reminds me...never even heard an SA citizen's voice anywhere else but SA. They're so scared when abroad. Only got big mouths on the pages of The Sowetan and on some Jozi streets. Local Champions. Come to Lagos for lessons in self confidence.Report Abuse
sgubhusenkwishi
@Lagos- boy11, first and foremost you have to learn the spelling sothat people can take you serious and listern to what you have to say. We dont say thread, but the right word is threat.This is one of the things that make people to think most of nigerians are fake in all forms and shape ,hence people dislike you.Back to the point you have to stop being big headed , but listern very carefully and stop over accerting youself, we all know about Nigeria and you have got nothing new to tell the world about.If Nigeria was anywhere closer to rich countries, people would be knowing that , without you telling them, but your people being scattered by poverty all over the continent and in europe is just a proof that you have got nothing to offer.But that is not a reason why people in the world they dislike Nigeria, the whole thing is about the manner in which your national conduct themselves, which might be acceptable as a way of life to you responding to your condition but the outside world cannot accept corruption and people living with decepting tactics.
Your nationals that were deported from south africa ,that was done based on our rules re - infection controll, nothing else , not your investments , politics or any other issues. You have chosen to politicise the very simple and straight forward issue , to prove the ungovernability of your kind. We know in africa Nigeria might have been liberated for decades than most of the african countries , the governance issue is still your biggest challenge more than any other countries. Your country is at war with its own citizens based on that fact, so we dont need to be a part of that. However we wont let you meddle with the way we govern our own country. So keep on dreaming as much as you want as a biggest country in africa , if that is what make you happy but on the ground you appear as a clawling nation. You have to get your fact straight to earn our respect. At the moment you have got nothing to show off about and nobody can in his full and sober senses can take any lesson from nigeria , cause there is unfortunately none.
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sgubhusenkwishi
Some of you are bussy worrying themselves about our national papers and our citizens, instead of paying attention to their own corrupted nationals back home. Nobody said we are perfect ,hence we subject ourselves to corrections and discipline if need be , hence we are getting better everyday. We are not denialist , without directions who turn to be the world undesirable nosense.Report Abuse
sgubhusenkwishi
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Occultist
I don't blame anyone of you South African slowpoke. What the Nigerian government should do from now on is to test all South African passenger coming to Nigeria for HIV and AIDS and then detain them until the result comes out. And if you tested positive, you are going to be prosecuted and sent to prison on Nigeria soil for malicious intent to infect Nigerian population with deadly disease. Yellow fever Vs HIV and Aids, Wondered which is more deadly and humiliating.Report Abuse
Occultist
A country where 1 out of every 2 persons is HIV +ve is complaining about Yellow fever?this is precious,
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Occultist
IF NOT FOR NELSON MANDELA ALONE,MAYBE NIGERIA GOVERNMENT SHOULD ASK S.A GOVERNMENT TO PAY BACK ALL MONEY,AND RESOURCES WASTED ON GETTING THEM OUT OF APATHY ERA,FOR 27 SOLID YEARS. UNGRATEFUL ANIMALSReport Abuse
kenzohh
You guys here with all your racist and stupid comments. You are ungrateful animals, ileterate and stupid. You should pay back for all the support you did get during apartheid. I get the feeling you deserved apartheid.And what kind of newspaper allows that kind of racist comments on their site? This country is in such a mess thanks to folks like you. You don't deserve better...
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sgubhusenkwishi
If you can just do south africans a favour , just mind your stinking business and forget about south africans, we really dont care about you and we dont wanna know about you, but you are like a sh- it sticking to our sho es and causing a lot of nuisance. We really dont interfere with your domestic affairs because they are not good news to us.You just have to carry on being big headed and dreaming as big brothers in africa , but your people are dying of poverty back home on those stinking dirty sanitary slums, your kids are being murdered by your deluded people who call them witches within your dirty religious beliefs , there are really many things you should be worried about if you were in sober senses, than halucinating as african big brothers under influence of whonga. Your president might be having what you assume as phd, but his leadership is non productive and even our president cannot be compared to yours with his leadership , so all those things translate to the degree of fakeness and forgery state of your affairs. There is again no evidence based on your faked false assumption that you have helped south africa at any point.
Anyway I have to stop waisting my time debating with none starters, but at least if Gana from the western countries was claiming something, I would lend them my ear because of the legacy of their big leaders like Nkwame nkruma , but should I really give any credity to your leaders , who had a reputation of corruptions of such scales within the african continent, who stole money and invest it to Switzerland when their people are starving and dying of the worst poverty , what are you really on about? No amount of delutions would give you credit, cherity begins at home. Start by looking after your poor before you tell us your ferry tales. You are just waisting your time with us here the B.H. is taking over your country back home, that is what you should be worried about.
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Omonaijanimio
Sgubhusenkwishi: Bloody illiterate. Cant even spell to save your life. No wonder your health minister was advocating beetroot as a cure for AIDS.You all think you're smarter than your government right? You think they should have continued their puerile grandstanding, etc? Well, sorry to inform you...they're smarter than you.
White South Africans are all over Nigeria forming alliances to be harnessed when you all blacks self destruct from your ignorance and laziness. A country where some people think National ID is a Passport. lol.
Sgubhusenkwishi reminds me of all those blue coveralls riding in small bakkies driven by 19 yr old white boys being ferried to do some menial job. Face your problems and leave Nigerians alone. We're on a whole different level. Not like your Ghaddafi loving president.
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Naijaislord
sigu is that really a name or were your parents just fascinated with the alphabet?Why have a go at Nigerians? Are you so filled with self-loathing?Suicidal?
You should know you are out of your depth. You lack the cerebral resource K@ffir boy.
I h,ate to burst your bubble but you guys are developmentally at the bottom of the food chain as far as b1ack Africans are concerned. Don't gloat about the economy you inherited from your B0ER lords.You are on course to be the next Zimbabwe.
Our position is a very simple one you can have a bilateral relationship with us or not.No petulance,no foaming at the mouth nor any other juvenile tantrums. You throw any stones we throw rocks.
It is not really Nigerians you h,ate nor Zimbabweans,Zambians etc its yourselves and it makes you feel better to want to be Baas to other B1acks. Nigerians won't play or indulge your delusions.
First you need to get your heads into a place where the B0er ain't BAAS that ain't gonna happen any time soon is it?He got you well trained..
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Naija4lyfe
I am shocked and appalled by some of the comments made by our supposed African "brothers" and "sisters." Indigenous South Africans remain a people who have colonized minds. To think they would insult Nigerians whose various groups created empires and kingdoms, compared to South Africans who did not even establish the kind empires and kingdoms that were found in West Africa is laughable. At least in Nigeria we had the mighty Benin Empire, Sokoto Caliphate, Oyo Empire, and Nri Kingdom. What did your people ever create?Report Abuse
coolzeal
Am a Nigerian and i will never h#te SA or anyone who is black, after all scientist has said humanity started in Africa, probably South or East Africa. We black people as a whole has suffered tremendously both in ancient time or this day, we're consider slaves, primitive, mocked, ridicule, judged, colonize, i can go on but our uniqueness is our sweet blackness, our melanin. We as people of the cradle of civilization must rise up, wake up from mental slavery that is causing the disunity of black people.. Pls i advice all of you to watch and learn, http://youtu.be/RC_cyL4VF6o or rather research Dr cheik Anta Diop, Dr Ivan Van Sertima, Dr. John Henrik Clarke.. Thank you..Report Abuse
coolzeal
Am a Nigerian and i will never dislike SA or anyone who is black, after all scientist has said humanity started in Africa, probably South or East Africa. We black people as a whole has suffered tremendously both in ancient time or this day, pls watch on youtube or rather research Dr cheik Anta Diop, Dr Ivan Van Sertima, Dr. John Henrik Clarke. thank you...Report Abuse
coolzeal
Am a Nigerian and i will never dislike SA or anyone who is black, after all scientist has said humanity started in Africa, probably South or East Africa. We black people as a whole has suffered tremendously both in ancient time or this day, pls watch on youtube or rather research Dr cheik Anta Diop, Dr Ivan Van Sertima, Dr. John Henrik Clarke. thank you...Report Abuse
Naijapikin
HIV infested ingrates trying to play tough with Naija, dem born una well?Report Abuse
YarePeepsUnreasonablehere!
Yaresomepeepssounreasonable when it comes to dealing with other citizens here in SA! People do u realize that we South Africans have the accumulation of Deadly Diseases in Africa? If other countries were to b demanding or testing travelers on-the-spot I bet you perhaps 70% of SA travelers will definitely b deported everyday! Don't you think most of these officials we have at keep places are not even abreast enough to scrutinize themselves let more others? I tell you our environment is too hostile to our fellow African brothers! Imagine if HIV/AIDS n TB were used to judge people into traveling, SA citizens will b the most deported travelers the world-over! So lets think b4 we crucify others!Report Abuse
Genusa
WHY SOUTH AFRICA APOLOGISED:I am Nigerian and I beleive SA is the wiser one in this diplomatic row. They only apologized to protect the SA businesses in Nigeria. South Africa has exploited the Nigeria economy and set up fast growing blue chip companies. The few I know of includes: MTN, DSTV MULTICHOICE, SHOPRITE, AND KFC.
I do not think Nigeria has similar blue chip business set up in South Africa, except for drugs and scams. Right or Wrong. It is negative.
If the row continues, SA will have more to loose.
As it stands now SA has successfully allowed Nigeria to ride in pride, while SA businesses booms. If you ask me, I will take the later anytime.
Sometimes in life, you have to stoop to conquer. It doesn't make you the weak one. But the wise one.
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sgubhusenkwishi
Naijas , big brothers nation ,self obesessed with egos, but ignorant as you are of your brain damaged cells that fail you to make right judgements, I pity you. You have got no reason to know my name because of simple facts that you dont know my langauage, and I cant pretend to share the same brain damage cells with you and blame you for your low reasoning , but sticking to your egos, I dont know either the meaning of your fu ckin odd names, but , is not newsworthy to me because I have got reason not to, as I dont speak your language, so stop your childish tempertantrums.You are very very naive thinkers and foreign to the truths and you think the sun is revolving around your heads. Proper countries make rules and policies and officials are employed to execute them without political bravados that you are playing, that is why your people are deported everywhere in the world, UK, USA,Australia, France, German, Italy,canada and here in Africa, but you are in denial and you dont want to learn or worst unteachable characters.This applies to every foreign nationals but others accept it because they are not deluded, they live in reality.So they know that ,that is done based on solid reasons.
Diseases that you gamble with and try to politicise are not used to prosecute people,but countries are following protocols set up by WHO to ensure that diseases are controlled and not unnecessarilly spread.Hence no country use hiv/aids, TB, and other transimitable diseases to prosecute people, as long as those people have followed the protocols, like proper immunisation evidence, people being on treatment,therefore no risk to spread diseases. But there is ofcourse problems with denialists, who flaut and fake such procedures for short cuts and politicise them to be exempted and get preferential treatment to other people whilst imposing the risk to other nations. So we have to know these things and stop being stupids , claiming to know it all.You better ask for medical advise if you are medical ignorent as you sound.Which is a big embarrassment to the world we live in.
Most of you are just making noice without rationals, your countries are not giving the real disease stats, hence they want to make us believe that you dont have Tb, hiv/aids, malaria etc, that is not right, and dangerous, posing a bigger risk than those countries that give the accurate statistics. Most of your people live in South africa where there is a higher risk of aids and they share their lives with every one without limits, and you are claiming that you are clean, how stupid and ignorant that tabulations sound, dont take us for granted , get your facts rights. Most of your nationals are drug traffickers and drug users, drug users are the most risk imposers when it comes to hiv/aids, that is research based facts, but you still want to scare the world to bend to your denials and naivity.
You jump the wagon many times claiming africanism without substance, as if when you are an african you deserve to share ignorency with everyone.
Zimbabwe has its policies, like nationalisation and indeginisation of properties and businesses without compensation, most of our businesses have lost there, but no one went to this extent to make unsolicited noice because its their country and their policies, we cant change them, we accept that we are foreigners in that part of a region , we have to accept and abide by their rules, or leave them if we feel uncomfortable with their take. We cant claim to be plastic big brothers to every countries , that one is rubbish.
The current research based facts is there is no cure for HIV/AIDS, statistics says the rate of peolpe living with hiv/aids is on increase in Uk, USA, german, China and other countries who are well equiped economical, but you being Nigeria and failling even to treat diabetes mellitus, you claim to be Hiv/aids clean country, being such a big immigratting nation, how rediculous is that? Are you living in fantacy?
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Naijaislord
verbigeration!honestly you do not expect any sane person to read your twaddle.
Just sum it up
You H4te Nigerians.
I will tell something gratis. It makes no difference to anything. We love ourselves,believe in ourselves and people reckon with us. Something you can never say for yourself.Did the BAAS unleash you so early in the day?You come out "schnauzkrampf" chompimg at the bit.Find another target for your vitriol.We are not coevals.
What is "Ignorency" by the way? B4NTU word?
Find a brick wall and knock your head against it as hard as you can
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sgubhusenkwishi
What is ignorency by the way? not easy to teach an unteachable people like, Naijaislord. But as an experienced person I would try my best. Naija , get a mirror of your size, and height , walk straight facing it you will see the best example of an ignorant ugly bastard man and you will know the answer.Maar dit is so moelike om n bobejaan se hard klipkop te verander of te leer ken nie.
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Naijaislord
@SgusOuch! You are losing your cool K@ffir!
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