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The South African Football Association's appeals board is to sit in Johannesburg to hear Pirates question whether they are directly responsible for the actions of their fans, particularly at matches at which they are not in control.

Currently PSL rules state clubs are liable to be punished if their fans misbehave - both in and outside the stadium.

Pirates face heavy fines in several cases, including the Telkom Knockout final and after winning the league in Durban in May when celebrating fans invaded the pitch. Pirates have already been fined in one of three cases, but feel they should not be held directly responsible and because of their appeal, two other cases against them are still to be determined.

The PSL has suspended all cases involving charges of spectator misbehaviour pending the outcome of Pirates' appeal.

"Until the appeal board (of Safa) decides on whether we have been giving a proper interpretation to this rule or not," all pending disciplinary matters will be suspended, said PSL legal head Ntsietso Mofokeng.

The PSL said today's determination by the appeal board might affect the cornerstone of its policy to charge clubs for their supporters' misbehaviour. If Pirates win, it reduces a heavy financial penalty on the club and, potentially, other teams with similarly large support. But it then brings into question who takes responsibility for security and who is liable should things go wrong.

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Oct 5, 2012

Papage

This is bull, why are they given prefferential or is because the club belong to the PSL Chairman? Pirates must be treaded like any other team in the PSL, why suspent all their cases, it is not fair, we can see it ninenine that there is favouritism here, even a blind man can see. Pirates and Sundowns must play infront of empty stadium, like you did to Chiefs some years back. Chiefs once raised that concern that the rioting of fans was not direct to Chiefs, but PSL ignored that and fined them, why now with Pirates things are changed, it ia not fair preiod.
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Oct 5, 2012

Skomoro99

@ Papage

You must learn to read and understand baba,Chiefs are also due to appear before DC but due to the Pirates appeal,the PSL has decided to pospone all spectator charges for all teams concerned.I feel that the PSL is the one responsibe for the fans in all PSL endorsed games.
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Oct 5, 2012

Dieheart

@Skomoro99

You must learn to read and understand baba,Chiefs are also due to appear before DC but due to the Pirates appeal,the PSL has decided to pospone all spectator charges for all teams concerned.I feel that the PSL is the one responsibe for the fans in all PSL endorsed games.
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Good point my man. I have always held this view that if you punish the club, you are not solving the problem as the misbehaving supporters are not 'employees' of the club. Deal with hooligans and the problem will hopefully stop. Hooligans are taking full adv of this gap knowing that if they misbehave nothing will be done to them. So PSL must capacitate its security to deal with the such incidents at the stadium. Club can do their part by educating their supporters.
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Oct 5, 2012

Papage

Skomoro99
@ Papage

You must learn to read and understand baba,Chiefs are also due to appear before DC but due to the Pirates appeal,the PSL has decided to pospone all spectator charges for all teams concerned.I feel that the PSL is the one responsibe for the fans in all PSL endorsed games.

You are talking rubbish, why Sundowns case is handed to the Police while Pirates cases are suspended, dont come with your foolish tactics here, Pirates is not PSL, Khosa must just decide whether to be the club owner or the Chairpeson of the PSL, this is a conflick of interest, no Governance, right now the Director at Pirates in the PSL adviser, how do you do that, there is so much corruption in this Football of ours, some people are usin Sir Blatter bulling tactics, we need fairness, that is all.
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Oct 5, 2012

Nzwakele

I remember when Chiefs voiced their concern about being charged for spectator behaviour @ the stadium. They were villified for it. Olifant Molefe came out with gun blazing. Critizing Chiefs for daring to try & test the same law that Pie-rats is challenging. At the time Olifant seemed to have the backing of his deputy & the rest of the board members. Mr Motaung was isolated.

Well, it's high time that the law be severely tested. I am against it (law) as well. If Pie-rats is successful it will absolve all teams charged. Sometimes you have to send the favourite (intandokazi) child to ask the parents (mummy/daddy) for a particular favour. If you don't send that favourite child the request is bound to be denied.

So let everyone support Pie-Rats so that my team KC can as well benefit. I raised this to show that Pie-Rats is not the first club to test the unfair law according to me. I want Pie-Rats to win the case.
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Oct 5, 2012

Dieheart

@ Papage

You must learn to read and understand baba,Chiefs are also due to appear before DC but due to the Pirates appeal,the PSL has decided to pospone all spectator charges for all teams concerned.I feel that the PSL is the one responsibe for the fans in all PSL endorsed games.

You are talking rubbish, why Sundowns case is handed to the Police while Pirates cases are suspended, dont come with your foolish tactics here, Pirates is not PSL, Khosa must just decide whether to be the club owner or the Chairpeson of the PSL, this is a conflick of interest, no Governance, right now the Director at Pirates in the PSL adviser, how do you do that, there is so much corruption in this Football of ours, some people are usin Sir Blatter bulling tactics, we need fairness, that is all.
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My understanding is that Sundowns are ones who lodged a criminal case against those hooligans at Dobsonville Police Station while Bucs cases have been suspended due to their pending appeal they have lodged at SAFA.
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Oct 5, 2012

Mokgaditse

"Until the appeal board (of Safa) decides on whether we have been giving a proper interpretation to this rule or not," all pending disciplinary matters will be suspended, said PSL legal head Ntsietso Mofokeng.
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////This stayement does not say Pirates,Chiefs or Sundowns, and we all know this clubs has pending cases against them. I think if Pirates loose this case, Sundowns will be charges as well,but for now the PSL and the club has opened a case against the fans. Any one who does not understand this must go to PSL and ask them, otherwisw you guys are going to spend your precious time explaining. It is just the hate of the Champs that is running in people blood and the hatred is blinding their minds.

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Oct 5, 2012

sustain1002

Its not something new when such incidents happen in our footballing fraternity, its a fact Khoza is dictating the PSL and its high tie reigns be given to somebody else. If you all know football answer me these questions 1. Why did Zola Majavu not last for the duration of his spell as a CEO, and why was Andile Ncobo sacked and lastly the recently appointed CEO why did he leave its all in your hearts to give your honest answers. Mine is that there is interference in everythig that is happenning here!
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Oct 5, 2012

finidi

Im a Kaizer Chiefs supporter but I think Pirates have a point here. It is an unfair rule. The perpetrators should get criminal charges against them. A football club can only do so much to influence the actions of individuals and if they continue in their uncivilized behavior then the blame must be put on the individuals rather than the football club. The club can release a thousand statements and educational programmes for its fans but if people aren't prepared to learn that can't be the club's fault. There's so many Cameras at stadiums these days, if anyone misbehaves they must be locked up, not banned from the fields but locked up. That will teach him/her and others for next time.
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Oct 5, 2012

jerico

is that guy on the picture holding a stick,Damn no-wonder why i would never be a bug.they are scary,violant,and they cry like gays when they lost.
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