CheeseBoy

I got no beef with Idris Elba, I think he is a good actor

I have an issue with americans playing the role of African roles in general.

Gill Scot in that Lady detective series baaad 1/10
Morgan Freeman in Invictus, terrible 1/10

just to name a couple examples. I would never spend my money or waste my time watching any movies of this nature, just my choice.


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On a side note Sowetan , although it is honorable to block off comments for certain articles. That would not stop TROLLS from starting their nonsense on a different article.

Why not find a better way to block off trolls like beefing up requirements to register. blocking usernames in stead of punishing everyone. its very easy.

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somaartakeit

Morgan Fre.eman is to me the best Madiba portrayal ever even the features and gestures are so Madiba like,
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WebTeam

@CheeseBoy
Yes, we would like to identify only the people abusing this forum
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RobinH

Cheeseboy: Just for the sake of accuracy, Elba is not American. He is British. I tend to agree with somaartakeit.
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pik_it_up

oh and the pictures of khanyi were classy???

its double standards, people will express themselves hoe ever they feel...you wanna stop freedom of speech???
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queenzo

arnt there any south african guys that can please the role and even speak the language?
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@pik_it_up
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RobinH

Web_Team> I lament the fact that you have never acted on cases reported in the past. It makes one wonder what the point of reporting such things is.
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WordofGod

at first it was jennifer hudson for winnie and now this guy for mandela.i have nothing against the guy. don't we have people in mzansi who can be uplifted to play this parts in these movies? what about the accent, the xho.sa language. the parts where mandela speaking his african language? aaiii!! americans think that they rule the world...
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Raven

.... who in Mzansi can play Mandela? pls name 3...
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RobinH

Raven: John Kani, to start with......
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Keafixa

raven

sello maaka ka ncube
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TKay

I like the guy very much and I think he is a good actor but dont we have people who can play Mandela here, especially on a book he wrote himself
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somaartakeit

WordofGod
at first it was jennifer hudson for winnie and now this guy for mandela.i have nothing against the guy. don't we have people in mzansi who can be uplifted to play this parts in these movies? what about the accent, the xho.sa language. the parts where mandela speaking his african language? aaiii!! americans think that they rule the world...
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WOF entertainment business is profit oriented not a charity, so producers pull in the best actors, look at life of Margaret Thatcher is played by an American, Merryl Street, in spite that British has formidable actors/actresses, no one in the UK is bleating about upliftment everyone understands about best guy for the job, so please get with the programme already
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TKay

This actors dont even speak Isixhosa

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zaco

WordofGod
at first it was jennifer hudson for winnie and now this guy for mandela.i have nothing against the guy. don't we have people in mzansi who can be uplifted to play this parts in these movies? what about the accent, the xho.sa language. the parts where mandela speaking his african language? aaiii!! americans think that they rule the world...
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can you do it...WORDY
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tumzangwana

what surprises me is that ive never ever seen a movie about any american pres. and that role being played by a south african. never ever.
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MADEZZZZZZ

Raven
.... who in Mzansi can play Mandela? pls name 3...
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John Kani with his glasses off
Sello Maake Ka-Ncube ovias

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tumzangwana
what surprises me is that ive never ever seen a movie about any american pres. and that role being played by a south african. never ever.
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i under the frustrations,
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you are selling your shoees....there are 3 willing buyers with differennt amounts[ R250,R 370,R 900, respectively_ the least amount comes from your own cousin..the highest bidder is unknown person._ which will u go for??
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somaartakeit

@Tumi did SAn actors audition for the movie role for American president? cause that's they ONLY way they will be picked amongst the best, as I've said entertainment is a competitive money spinning business, so they int'l directors will look at the best int'l actors/actresses so they can get return for their investment, we can't apply affirmative action in everything,
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Decibels

who's going to play the sick Mandela??
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zaco

somaartakeit
""we can't apply affirmative action in everything,""
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you are making a good point, ...just marred it with this pugnacious comment....!! please beware of myopism.

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skhokho21

There are so many black actors that can play Mandela, the point here is returns on investment hence you need leading actors. Why do you think local movies stay a week at local cinema houses, they don`t make money & actors are unknown. Imagine Khapela playing Mandela, do you think sponsors will pour millions to get the movie a blockbaster, never.
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somaartakeit

@Zaco why should there be quotas in the movies? movie business is about talent (extra-ordinary) but SAns want favours (I call it AA) for lack of word, do they realise that a movie is an investment and in this industry its a cut throat business? we as a nation should stop being cry babies and get on with stuff, and not expect others to feel sorry for us and giving out handouts we must earn our place on the global stage the world owes us nothing,
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somaartakeit

@Skhoskho21 I couldn't have said it better myself! Sello Maake has a bit of a profile so he wld cut it, but as you say the investors wld only put in money where there is a less risk.
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Decibels

Raven
.... who in Mzansi can play Mandela? pls name 3...
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Duke Ngcobo
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somaartakeit

@Decibels what int'l movies did Duke Ngcobo play in? anyway I wld go along with Sello and Kani, I think these 2 are some of our very best!
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Galfrend

Im also one of the people against American actors telling African Stories as if we dont have our own actors, but then
I understand at the end of the day its all about money but its really not fair on Local actors.

But with Idris, Oh he can play Mandela anytime, I will be drooling over...... cant wait
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zulustereotype

What's the problem with foreign actors playing African's I mean South African actors play Shakepeare?
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MiniMinaj

Mr "sexy" Elba is waaaaaaaay sexy for that role. mhhhh!
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somaartakeit

@GF anytime that someone else comes along with money to rescue you, you can be sure that they will dictate the rules of the game that is life and we must face up to that, the USA film directors come in with money, so they have ultimately power to chose which actors will return them their investments, if Africans have stories to tell then they should consider investing in those movies with their own money then they can decide who shld act in those roles. Life's not fair darling you just have to make it work for you.
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somaartakeit

@MiniMinaj, surely there was once upon a time when Madiba was 'sexy' lol he was apparently a player in his hay days, if you haven't already you shld read the Long Walk.../
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somaartakeit
@MiniMinaj, surely there was once upon a time when Madiba was 'sexy' lol he was apparently a player in his hay days, if you haven't already you shld read the Long Walk.../
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hey man we are blacks......we abhor reading! your advices fell on deaf ears...lol
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Galfrend

somaartakeit
@GF anytime that someone else comes along with money to rescue you, you can be sure that they will dictate the rules of the game that is life and we must face up to that, the USA film directors come in with money, so they have ultimately power to chose which actors will return them their investments, if Africans have stories to tell then they should consider investing in those movies with their own money then they can decide who shld act in those roles. Life's not fair darling you just have to make it work for you.
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I know, very true. I agree with you 100%. I just feel sorry for them local actors. It must be tough being in the entertainment industry.
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somaartakeit

btw GF Nigerians are doing exactly that with their Nollywood films and they have taken that int'l as Nigerians are global citizens, so instead of complaining who Americans chose to act in the movies they are funding, we should do SAliwood, there is already Bollywood so the ball must roll:-) that way nobody can stiff SAn actors, and btw we shouldn't take this personal cause prominent figure of hte UK (Margerest Thatcher) is played by Merry Street an American, ja its best man for job and the Brits are taking it up their strides and not complaining that it should have been Judy Dench one of their best actresses of all times,
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HoiMash69

The Problem is that the Companies who are funding the movie and producers are the ones who determine who to cast as Mandela. If only we (SA) had companies like Warner Bros, Wenstein, 20th Century Fox who can make take risks and make movies,cast our actors, just as they do in america.
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MiniMinaj

@ somaartakeit, i just dont picture Madiba like that, lol, they could have chosen Mr J Foxx, oops! he also looks, yummy. But then again, i can imagine Idris speaking our African language, perfect choice they made. Cant wait to drool!!!!
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Jingo

Nothing wrong with Mr Elba playing the role.Haters shld jst move on and Get over it.We cannot afford amature actors to play the role ya Tata.Noway.......i say Noway.
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Raven

..John Kani is old, for start mara he is an excellent actor, mara cannot play Madiba now,aowa guys
.. Sello eish he turns to over do his accting at times, mara i think he can do...well yaahh he played the Lion King.. point taken, Sello will do..
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Galfrend
somaartakeit

I know, very true. I agree with you 100%. I just feel sorry for them local actors. It must be tough being in the entertainment industry.
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It is always tough to be in the profit oriented business cause if you fail to make yourself exceptional you are out of business, I don't know what is halting SAn actors/actress or even musicians from becoming global, you know over the week-end I was listening to some of SA's oldest music like Lady Smith/Soul Brothers, these guys went global, and sadly there were the few that and yet we have so many musicians/singers in this country, I don't know if SAn talent is marketed effectively overseas,
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zaco
somaartakeit
@MiniMinaj, surely there was once upon a time when Madiba was 'sexy' lol he was apparently a player in his hay days, if you haven't already you shld read the Long Walk.../
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hey man we are blacks......we abhor reading! your advices fell on deaf ears...lol
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@ zaco, Shut up, tl tl tl tl t
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@zaco
somaartakeit
@MiniMinaj, surely there was once upon a time when Madiba was 'sexy' lol he was apparently a player in his hay days, if you haven't already you shld read the Long Walk.../
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hey man we are blacks......we abhor reading! your advices fell on deaf ears...lol
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that's not the targetted group for my comments shame, cause I already know that the lazy to read are the ignorant ones so I don't expect any feedback or them to read what I write, they only concern about on line sex and drinks and that's not the kind I target with my comments cause such crowd can ONLY numb one's brains if you hang out with them too much lg
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somaartakeit
Galfrend
somaartakeit
you know over the week-end I was listening to some of SA's oldest music like Lady Smith/Soul Brothers, these guys went global, and sadly there were the few that and yet we have so many musicians/singers in this country, I don't know if SAn talent is marketed effectively overseas,
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I think why some musicians like Soul Brothers and ladySmith Black Mambazo successfully went global ,is because they stuck to originality, they did not try to copy Americans 's style of music like Hip hop, Rnb. When Americans listen to that kind of music,its different to their music so its appealing to them. Nothing beats originality. With actors, I dont know why they struggle to make it international.
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@zaco
somaartakeit
@MiniMinaj, surely there was once upon a time when Madiba was 'sexy' lol he was apparently a player in his hay days, if you haven't already you shld read the Long Walk.../
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hey man we are blacks......we abhor reading! your advices fell on deaf ears...lol
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that's not the targetted group for my comments shame, cause I already know that the lazy to read are the ignorant ones so I don't expect any feedback or them to read what I write, they only concern about on line sex and drinks and that's not the kind I target with my comments cause such crowd can ONLY numb one's brains if you hang out with them too much lg
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Enough with the insults and judgments and chill a bit.
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Dzel

@zulustereotype
What's the problem with foreign actors playing African's I mean South African actors play Shakepeare?
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The problem is whenever Hollywood does Africa they do so half-heartedly and end up doing the character or story a disservice by taking shortcuts hoping the audience won’t notice. Take accents for example, Hollywood seems to have decided what accent sounds African so you’ll find the same face “African accents” in Hotel Rwanda, Blood Diamond and a movie that is supposed to be set in SA. You and I know South African accents differ significantly; the challenge becomes greater when the key character has an accent as distinctive as Mandela’s is.

Then they pay local cultures little respect as you hear people who are supposed to be from Central Africa speaking Zu.lu as their local language and\or singing Z.ulu songs. Of course the international market doesn’t know any better but it is a turn-off when you can spot the shot-cuts taken. If Hollywood wants to portray African stories then they have to pay attention to detail as much as they would in a French movie for example and they have to ensure their actors do a proper job; not some half-heated cut & paste attempt that bears little or no resemblance to how the character would speak and act in real life. Someone mentioned Gill Scott, I thought she was brilliant in her account of a Motswana woman even learning Setswana to add credibility to her portrayal.

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somaartakeit

Eish Galfrend yitsho uliphinde mntuwantu and in addition to sticking to original and uniqueness they had a talent that is marketable int'l, right now we are being fed junk food of music, it so breaks my heart, I also watched some of the Chicco Twala's earlier productions, wow once upon SA used to have a talent, my aunt used to listen to Soul Brother and Black Mambazo, but their music is appealing even today, even when you don't understand what they are singing about it, the harmonisation of the musical notes makes it beautiful sound to listen, you know when I am not watching chomee I couldnt' be sure if she is singing or screaming or making strange noises, I sometimes wonder whether these musicians think about their legacies, ooh btw uMahlathini and the Mahotela Queen rocks, I also watched their song 'kazet' on youtbe, lol
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somaartakeit

it is a point MInaj that I don't target (with my points) ppl who don't read and they shldn't respond to them if my comments are too long and they haven't got enough comprehension to remember everything, zaco makes it out as if its my problem that some don't read.
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Dzel

somaar,
if Africans have stories to tell then they should consider investing in those movies with their own money then they can decide who shld act in those roles. Life's not fair darling you just have to make it work for you.
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Its not about who is funding the movie but rather whether they are going to do justice to the story and characters they seek to portray in the movie, if Hollywood is not prepared to give Africa the respect it deserves perhaps they should stay away from African stories.

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somaartakeit

@Dzel blood diamond was a great movie and I have no doubt the producers got their returns it also got the people the world over to pay attention iro exploitation of African resources by corrupt African leaders in collaboration with corrupt imperialists. that movie achieved bringing a sportlight back to this, was it Brat Pitt the producer? he did a good job I hadn't the stomach to watch Hotel Ruanda, lol
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RobinH

Hotel Rwanda was a movie that moved me personally more than any other I have ever watched.
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MiniMinaj

somaartakeit
it is a point MInaj that I don't target (with my points) ppl who don't read and they shldn't respond to them if my comments are too long and they haven't got enough comprehension to remember everything, zaco makes it out as if its my problem that some don't read.
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You're right, they're long, lol, it helps to keep it short, simple and straight to the point sometimes.
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somaartakeit

@Dzel Africa must respect itself by funding these movies telling own stories to the world they shouldn't wait on America to come do that for them, Americans are doing what they know to have worked for them iro of the returns for their investments, if we are that pathetic to not even be able to tell our own stories and fund those ourselves, then we can't be going around blaming the USA, Nigerians and Indians are makign their own movies and telling their own stories to the world do you know Noliwood and Bollywood? and you would wonder hwy guys like Ngema who are being funded by teh gov has not think about this project.
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Galfrend

somaartakeit
Eish Galfrend yitsho uliphinde mntuwantu and in addition to sticking to original and uniqueness they had a talent that is marketable int'l, right now we are being fed junk food of music, it so breaks my heart, I also watched some of the Chicco Twala's earlier productions, wow once upon SA used to have a talent, my aunt used to listen to Soul Brother and Black Mambazo, but their music is appealing even today, even when you don't understand what they are singing about it, the harmonisation of the musical notes makes it beautiful sound to listen, you know when I am not watching chomee I couldnt' be sure if she is singing or screaming or making strange noises, I sometimes wonder whether these musicians think about their legacies, ooh btw uMahlathini and the Mahotela Queen rocks, I also watched their song 'kazet' on youtbe, lol
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Gal you are taking me way back now, that is what I call music, I mean all the Musicians you mentioned above. They were original , they were passionate about their art. To them passion drove them to do what they love thereby enabling them to produce quality music. Today its all bout fame and fortune. Anyone can be a singer, musicians now only care about being "celebrities" . In a way technology has killled the art of music. Shame awumthandisisi uChommee, you always giving an example ngaye...lol
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somaartakeit

@MiiMInaj if they are too long for you then please don't read them< i am not going to change my writing style to appease the lazy to read. Everything I write about is to the point and precise and is in simple English so I am not adjusting anything.
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Dzel

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Oh Blood Diamond is a brilliant movie (please don't misunderstand); if you listen to Leonardo Decaprio’s accent in the movie you’ll understand my point. His is a genuine Afrikaans accent complete with local slang, that was properly researched and executed I really can’t fault his performance.

Lord of War is a prime example of Hollywood making a mockery of proper geo-linguistic settings. Hotel Rwanda is a difficult movie to watch, I have only managed to stomach the entire movie two or three times.

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Galfrend

I think all the actors involeved on Hotel Rwanda, did a great job. That was a movie.

Nigerians are trying shame mara half of it its crappy movies...jerrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Galfrend

Gill Scot in that Lady detective series baaad 1/10
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I agree, it was baaaad, these American actors tend to exaggerate our accent a bit, making it terrible........they just try too hard.
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Dzel

@Galfrend,

I think all the actors involeved on Hotel Rwanda, did a great job. That was a movie.
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Chad's accent was rubbish, his was a typical accent of what Hollywood thinks Africans sound like. Fana Mokoena made no attempt to sound Rwandan, the same goes for Kid Sithole and most other SA actors.

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Dzel

Galfrend,

I thought Gill was brilliant, like I said I was impressed she went as far as learn Setswana and pronounce the words properly or am I missing something here?
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DJWinner

Galfrend
I think all the actors involeved on Hotel Rwanda, did a great job. That was a movie.

Nigerians are trying shame mara half of it its crappy movies...jerrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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I didn't know that you watch movies.
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somaartakeit

@GF uChomee uyandicaphukisa cause she makes a mockery out of music that girl is a dancer not a singer, but I blame u Arthur cause nguye lo osizisela ibubble gum music, SAn singers used to shine here in Africa and others to the world cause they brought some talent on the table and views felt their money was well spent, just looking at Chicco Twala's productions that guy cleans the floor with the likes of Arthur and other wanna be producers, not to mention uNgema (Mbongeni) hayi jealous down these guys put SA on the world stage, mina ndifuna uChomee aye eskolweni ayoqeda izifundo zakhe cause ayikho le ayenzayo, jonga ntombi Brenda left behind a legacy that is still not been matched, ngubani ozothenga umusic ka Chomee? jeer maar ukuba uyawuthanda lamusic wakudala nyana jonga ku youtube khona manje I am doing something which I want to use that music in the background for the piece, I will presenting something, but I dont' want to get into details abt the project itself, so that's why I was on YouTube wanted to see what I can use which really really reflect SAn music,
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Dzel
Galfrend,

I thought Gill was brilliant, like I said I was impressed she went as far as learn Setswana and pronounce the words properly or am I missing something here?
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Yoh hai ,I think she tried too much and exagerated, the way she said " eya mma" sounded really terrible for me..........well we just have different views,you are not missing anything.
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somaartakeit

@DJWinner
Galfrend
I didn't know that you watch movies.
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RobinH

Dzel: So you are familiar with Rwandan dialects?
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somaartakeit

hayi mara nam ndivumelana no Dzel Gill was brilliant stru s'God ndamthanda serious wandenza ndathanda amadaki futhi,
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Galfrend

DJWinner - Babes Im addicted to them ..lol Eish kuningi ongakwazi ngami,lol

Sommar - lol you are showing me another side of yours I never knew you had. I spend most of my spare time on you tube, in short I cant imagine life without music, quality music I mean. If you dont mind please share with me the project you are working on...

Anyway you are spot on ngoChomme, she is more of a dancer . Vocally, she is failing dismally.
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Dzel

@RobinH
Dzel: So you are familiar with Rwandan dialects?
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No but I know south African languages, accents and the actors in question; figuring out the actors were using their normal accents was not rocket science.

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somaartakeit

Tjo Dzel the Rwanda story told by Ruandees is enough to churn your stomach I met in person a survivor and a guy who was part of the gov of the day then responsible to plan the genocide the guy lives happily on Belgiums tax payers account, it makes me so angry that all these guys have nice lives overseas in the so called 'exile' whilst their victims are still trying to pick up beats and pieces of their lives, that is why strongly believe that every country which generates refugees and any related human destruction, heads of state from those countries should be tried at the Hague.

I feel at the moment desperately depressed that the leader of Syria has amended the constitution so he can rule till 2028 that is if there is anybody left for him to rule after all his serial murdering escapades,
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MiniMinaj

somaartakeit
hayi mara nam ndivumelana no Dzel Gill was brilliant stru s'God ndamthanda serious wandenza ndathanda amadaki futhi,
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Lol!
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Dzel

Galfrend,

Yoh hai ,I think she tried too much and exagerated, the way she said " eya mma" sounded really terrible for me...
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But that is how it is pronounced, emphasis is on "mme". She sounded genuine, I had no issue with her pronunciation.

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DJWinner

Galfrend
DJWinner - Babes Im addicted to them ..lol Eish kuningi ongakwazi ngami,lol
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he he he...I hope I will learn more sthandwa sami. Have a nice day, see you later. Bye...
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GoonerASean

@CheeseBoy He is not an American but of Sierra Leonean descents but born in England.
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somaartakeit

Tshini MiniMInaj why uhleka ntombi? umhle lawoman and umzimba wakhe o traditionally built lol she carries it very well maybe ngamadaki shem, that woman brought to the fore the beauty of a fully figured woman, shem and I liked the story too, I read all the series, it is better read but the movie was entertaining I thought:-)
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Galfrend

somaartakeit
hayi mara nam ndivumelana no Dzel Gill was brilliant stru s'God ndamthanda serious wandenza ndathanda amadaki futhi,
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Really? I differ shame, and her secretary on that movie ,I dont know her name, tjo she was just too much man...
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RobinH
Hotel Rwanda was a movie that moved me personally more than any other I have ever watched.
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You love seeing Africans in misery don't,you must have enjoyed it.I think it is fair to say the caucasian was the root of the Rwandan and Burundi civil wars.
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Galfrend

Dzel - Oh okay...

DJWinner
Galfrend
DJWinner - Babes Im addicted to them ..lol Eish kuningi ongakwazi ngami,lol
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he he he...I hope I will learn more sthandwa sami. Have a nice day, see you later. Bye...
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Okay, keep well :)
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Dzel

@somaar
Tjo Dzel the Rwanda story told by Ruandees is enough to churn your stomach
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That was the saddest episode in recent history. I recommend “Left to Tell” by Immaculée Ilibagiza, a gripping firsthand account by a survivor of the genocide, a gripping story that had me sleep at 03h00 in the morning as I couldn’t put the book down. Funny though how there are so many parallels between that account and what happened pre-1994 SA general elections, we are really lucky our mini-civil war wasn’t as bad but it still was a scary time for South Africa.

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somaartakeit

@GF la secretary *laughing* yiyona a typical secretary yoqobo mos leya, lol she actually was the it of the series, my hubby loved her to bits, lol ooh the guy who played Mr Matekoni he had such a humble character shem and he pulled it off definitely, I was proud of them all actors
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Nteletsha

Another dull comments by so called 'proud south africans', if u are not happy about Americans and other foreigners playing Mandela, why don't do your own movie about him and see how it will fare in the movie industry. Nelson Mandela is a very humble man who doesn't care who plays him on what because he is a great human being but his fellow country man yo yo yo.......The truth is that any movie about Mandela played by a South African will be a great financial loss to the film industry cze the accent is ridiculous. Any black man who plays him will do cze progressive black people of the world appreciate one another and Mandela is the symbol of tht so xenophobs and haters learn to accept tht the world has evolved.
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Galfrend

somaartakeit
@GF la secretary *laughing* yiyona a typical secretary yoqobo mos leya, lol she actually was the it of the series, my hubby loved her to bits, lol ooh the guy who played Mr Matekoni he had such a humble character shem and he pulled it off definitely, I was proud of them all actors
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lol the only person I liked there is Desmond Dube and those Khoisan Actors.
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MiniMinaj

Nteletsha
Another dull comments by so called 'proud south africans', if u are not happy about Americans and other foreigners playing Mandela, why don't do your own movie about him and see how it will fare in the movie industry. Nelson Mandela is a very humble man who doesn't care who plays him on what because he is a great human being but his fellow country man yo yo yo.......The truth is that any movie about Mandela played by a South African will be a great financial loss to the film industry cze the accent is ridiculous. Any black man who plays him will do cze progressive black people of the world appreciate one another and Mandela is the symbol of tht so xenophobs and haters learn to accept tht the world has evolved.
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Well said, thank you!!!!
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somaartakeit

@Dzel no my brother we were not LUCKY but had a proper leader who had ability to LEAD us for that we shld be proud cause we did ourselves proud by selecting him to lead us, that era was SA's moment of glory, I was surprised yesterday to see that there still are so many ppl who are depended on the ole man to make it for us, why can't we just walk in his foot steps and make ourselves proud? why can't we have ability to chose leaders that a proper and adequate for our sakes? Why are we settling for this dust disguised as leaders, look at how hopeless and desperate the nation has become, yesterday when news were released of Madiba doing well, it was a sigh of relief cause he is still is our beacon cause we failed as a nation to bring forth proper leader to lead this country to what it can be, ooh mara my heart aches for my beloved country and her people, cause we will in the end bare the brunt of this mismanagement of our country and our children too will be victims.

Dzel at the mom am in the middle of reading of 'Prophecy of Celestine' light but heavy stuff, I don't want to cry and be angry so I avoid reading that kind of stuff you recommended cause it makes me feel so wretched inside that we Africans have failed ourselves, we have fail to demand social justice for the oppressed in this continent, so therefore how can we claim 'I am an African', I sometimes wonder if the likes of Kwame Krumah were looking on what must they be thinking about us, we really have failed ourselves, we could have been...
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somaartakeit

@GF uDes is da man, I just love him as a person, and I have greatest respect for mama Lillian Dube, that boy is credit to his mom, uyamazi ukuba unobuntu kanjani, and is a proper gentleman< i wish they still made boys like him *bless his heart*
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Dzel

Nteletsha,

OK, let me get this right; a movie about a South African struggle hero set in South Africa played by a South African actor would be “a great financial loss to the film industry” because “the accent is ridiculous”?

Whose accent is ridiculous, Mandela’s or black South African accents?

By the way when did you have this conversation with the man where he told you he “is a very humble man who doesn't care who plays him” and that the story should be based on reality and be as realistic as possible?

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Tabza325is

@skhokho21
"There are so many black actors that can play Mandela, the point here is returns on investment hence you need leading actors. Why do you think local movies stay a week at local cinema houses, they don`t make money & actors are unknown. Imagine Khapela playing Mandela, do you think sponsors will pour millions to get the movie a blockbaster, never."

Aaahhh...Skhoko O'skhoko baba, you've hit the cow's horn.

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Dzel

@somaar,
no my brother we were not LUCKY but had a proper leader who had ability to LEAD us for that we shld be proud cause we did ourselves proud by selecting him to lead us, that era was SA's moment of glory,
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Hat.e to point this out but Zuma’s deserves the credit for negotiating the end of the violence that had gripped KZN and Gauteng, Mandela’s role was a bit limited though his leadership can never be understated.

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Firefly

Why is Juju speaking like Andile Mngxitama in that article below (that is blocked for posting).
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Ozongendzani?

john Kani can do bta. dis dude plssssss

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somaartakeit

Ozongendzani?
john Kani can do bta. dis dude plssssss
-------------------------------------------------------Someone said uKani utsufetsu, lol

Anyway Dzel why does Zuma deserve credit? there shouldn't have been a conflict in the first place if the leaders in that region had been proper and had ability and selflessly addressed their subjects about importance of tolerance and national unity, what zuma did is what Zwelithini and Gatsha failed to do, both were driven by greed laced with ignorance.
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TheTrueWord

Madiba is part of the South African heritage and therefore he should be portrayed as such. Much as multinational production houses and money is behind the production, a Mzansi actor is best placed to show this South African icon. The issue is not only someone who can imitate Madiba's accent and demeanor , but an actor who is intimate with Madiba's culture, political experiences, etc. That role can never be performed by any actor who is not South African of African descent. Otherwise the whole production will be a facade. Sadly, a missed opportunity for the South African arts, culture and heritage industry.
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Sepoko6

I agree with people like Cheeseboy, these roles should be played by South African actors, what's heartbreaking is that this is a book written by a South African; so you mean to tell me that a South African film company could not get the necessary funding for it? Because that is why you see foreigners playing these kind of roles because they provide the bacon. Having said that, there are uncle Toms on this forum like Raven who condone this kind of thing. Go to the US or the UK and let us see you play one of their icons - shame on you.
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Nteletsha

Dzel,

Do i have to meet Mandela in person to know that he's a grt and humble person? Many pple including me believe tht Jesus is the most profound human being ever to pass thru this planet but have we have never met him in person. The testimonies of his teachings and also eye-witnes accounts are sufficient evidence. Needless to say I met Madiba in downtown Manhattan in 2001 soon after the WTO bombings, and had a privilege to meet him in Leeds 2004 at the official opening of the Mandela Square (Formerly Millenium square).
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Missynj

Idrissa Akuna Elba is British born of African Parents. His Mother is from Ghana and Father from Sierra Leon. I congratulate him playing Madiba. He has a good reputation and very talented. Yes I also agree with the fellas saying Morgan Madiba look-alike was great playing Madiba. I like him too.
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RobinH

Dzel: So how many films featuring non-american characters actually use non-american actors? Granted there are a few, but not that many. The general Eastern European characters all sound like some stoned voice-coaches idea of a cross between Himmler and Genghiz Khan. No matter if he/she (the character) is supposed to be Mongolian, Berliner or Muscovite. I think your "demands" are rather unrealistic.
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cdek

WHY ON EARTH must it be played by an american????? THIS NEEDS TO STOP! we have equally good actors is SA! SELLO MAAKE, ERIC MUYENI to mention a few!!!!! come on!!!! this irritates the hell out of me! lets see if we will have a south african playing MARTIN LUTHER OR OBAMA in the near future! Jennifer Hudson playing winnie madikizela while we have people like BABY CELE,Moshidi Motshegwa Sindy (THANDZA FROM MUVHANGO) . IM NOT WATCHING THAT MOVIE!!!!!!!!
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Raven
.... who in Mzansi can play Mandela? pls name 3

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Raven, PLEASE! *ROLLING EYES*
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cdek

Jingo
Nothing wrong with Mr Elba playing the role.Haters shld jst move on and Get over it.We cannot afford amature actors to play the role ya Tata.Noway.......i say Noway.

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SO WE CAN afford american actors with no fake xho.sa accent to play the role of uTata?

rather John Kani.
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cdek

Its not about who is funding the movie but rather whether they are going to do justice to the story and characters they seek to portray in the movie, if Hollywood is not prepared to give Africa the respect it deserves perhaps they should stay away from African stories

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i agree with DZEL
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BOSNIA

My comment has been rejected because they feel it contains language to be considered discriminating against Americans...Elba
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Melila

Funny and true people don’t support SA films unless its Leon Schuster maybe he should play madiba.
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sweet_lips

I BELIEVE THEY COULD HAVE USED A SOUTH AFRICAN TO PLAY THE MANDELA PART I MEAN DOES THIS GUY EVEN KNOW HOW TO SPEAK XHOSA I MEAN REALLY NOW

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Thabzzzzz

@cheeseboi u are totally right my guy..i strongly believe that we have a lot of actors who are more than capable of acting the roles of SOUTH AFRICAN models much better and can speak speak our language with our accent.
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