The Marange field's vast earnings could have turned around Zimbabwe’s economy. But funds from the diamond sales have not showed up in the state treasury
This has been goiong on non-stop for ages and the world has chosen to turn a blind eye. People living in the area are co-erced into forced labour as well. All in all, a shocking example of exploitation by the Mugabe buddy-club. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
JohnStone
On the flipside of the coin, the biggest problem by those alleging "theft" is that their proposed solution to the problem is to have the world's biggest diamonds deposits controlled by foreign companies. Unfortunately for them, Zimbabwe will never be a colony again.
Zimbabweans must fix the problem of how proceeds from diamond sales are utilized, also they must stamp out any illeagl dealings, but they must never relinguish control of their precious minerals in return for a few paragraphs of "praise" by the media (mouthpiece of the corporate world). Report Abuse
is this a strategy to put focuse in MUGABE government by the bbc news and cnn news because elections are now nearer so they assume they can destabilize MY LEADER MUGABE?who braodcast this news? Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
RobinX
TCT. If he's "your leader" then why not head off to Zim to suffer under your precious tyrant with the rest of the Zimbabweans. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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T.C.T
is this a strategy to put focuse in MUGABE government by the bbc news and cnn news because elections are now nearer so they assume they can destabilize MY LEADER MUGABE?who braodcast this news?
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lolololol, no one as blind as those who does not WANT to see. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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RobinX
TCT. If he's "your leader" then why not head off to Zim to suffer under your precious tyrant with the rest of the Zimbabweans
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im planning to buy a peace of land that side the suffering you are refering to i see it on tv and this ppl chooses places that are so poor and neglect to show places that are beatiful...SOUTH AFRICA do have poor places and poor ppl that are staying in the same conditions as the zims.lets not be fooled by the british media pls my bra
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dont be part of the problem in my solutions plsss kikikikiki believing without seeing is a big wack
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T.C.T
dont be part of the problem in my solutions plsss kikikikiki believing without seeing is a big wack
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When was the last time you went to zim, as you said to Robinx, yes there is poor places in SA as well, but not the whole of SA. The UN is supporting zim with millions of pounds of food and medical needs, this you cannot deny, you can even go and read on zim's newspapers that the worst is to come next year March/April when they again did not provide even close enough food for the nation where it use to be a fruit basket and hunger was a word not well known there.
When you go again, please go te hwane as well, go and looked what happened in that once a beautiful place flourishing with animals. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Right-Back-Khumalo
Why is it our problem? His stealing does not affect us at all, I think... Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Phathuza
I am not against nationalisation infact I do support it because those minerals belongs to our country . My dream is every south african must have a share to the wealth of this country not the minority Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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Phathuza
I am not against nationalisation infact I do support it because those minerals belongs to our country . My dream is every south african must have a share to the wealth of this country not the minority
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Dude, you obviously did not read the article, """""Hangs and shakes head""""" Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
RobinX
TCT, Well then, goodbye. I presume you will have the good grace not to involve yourself in SA affairs then, whuile you and Julius head off for your "greener pastures. You are in for a rude awakening, Sir, unless you have sufficient wealth to buffer you from the so-called "elite" - or, of course, unless one is a willing sycophant. You choose. No pun intended in using the word "grace"...... Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Dandan
@MoNati
Where's Dandan?
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Yes of course, these are damn pathetic lies , blue lies , lol , for the fact that these stones are nt accessible by west they become so Jealous, they think they can survive without Zim, shame, Zim does nt need them, they need Zim Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Mantengwane
Funny how some SA'ns would come out in full praise of that murderous "comrade" Mugabe and would jump at Mugabe's mirror reflection Malema when he vomits similar rhetoric about SA's future. The Mugabes and Malemas of this world can only get praise by those benefiting from their trecherous ways. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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Yes of course, these are damn pathetic lies , blue lies , lol , for the fact that these stones are nt accessible by west they become so Jealous, they think they can survive without Zim, shame, Zim does nt need them, they need Zim
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Lololol, there is more than enough diamonds for the west in other countries, maybe you should also do research and see that these diamonds of zim goes to china, Then you must also tell me why the UN needs to support zim with tons and tons of food. Dude, you should really think before you type. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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are you talking about the same UN that tried to sabotage MUGABE government with the lies of ppl who died under MUGABE saying britain must take over,dont be one sided in your view wena go to the bundus of limpopo or eastern cape or north west,ppl are still suffering big time and they are not different to the zims,jst bcos me and you are not experiencing that kind of life doesnt mean SA is progressing like you wish,beare in mund that some ZIMS who are like me and you feel the same to be manipulated by want the media from bretain and usa is suggesting about food parcels remeber Braitain and US are the ppl who made ZIM to be wat it is today,by freezing government accounts and lot and lot of sanctions aftr MUGABE became PRESIDENT remember MUGABE was loved by them so much aftr touchng the issue of land thats wer problems started cases wer formulated against him and queen elizabeth called mugabe SIR so wat happend? and bribbing ppl with food mean nothing
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thank you my brother i wont wast my preciouse time thinking or fantacing about corrupt mzanzi that is demolishing houses fo its own ppl stealing billions from its own ppl and pretending to care Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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are you talking about the same UN that tried to sabotage MUGABE government with the lies of ppl who died under MUGABE saying britain must take over,dont be one sided in your view wena go to the bundus of limpopo or eastern cape or north west,ppl are still suffering big time and they are not different to the zims,jst bcos me and you are not experiencing that kind of life doesnt mean SA is progressing like you wish,
No it is not progressing because uneducated numbnuts are in power, dude, maybe you should go and read the history of mugabe and the tribe he almost took out completely, this is no lies, go and talk to the few that is left.
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beare in mund that some ZIMS who are like me and you feel the same to be manipulated by want the media from bretain and usa is suggesting about food parcels remeber Braitain and US are the ppl who made ZIM to be wat it is today,by freezing government accounts and lot and lot of sanctions aftr MUGABE became PRESIDENT remember MUGABE was loved by them so much aftr touchng the issue of land thats wer problems started cases wer formulated against him and queen elizabeth called mugabe SIR so wat happend? and bribbing ppl with food mean nothing
Dude, mugabe and his thugs made zim what it is today, telling thugs to go and kill tribes, to go and kill farmers, taking them off their properties and making millions starve, stop blaming everyone and pointing fingers. One decides ones own destiny. She might have called him sir, but when someone starts to kill people for nothing it is a crime against humanity.
bribing people with food you say, so the UN should stop sending food so that millions can die, who the f are you to talk for a mother who is holding her dying son in her arms, damn ignorant fool. Most of the zimbos does not want mugabe in power because he is just there for himself, just like your anc and their i.diot counterparts.
Wake up and smell the incompetence, greed, murder and corruption, silly little boy.
T.C.T - So, as a South African, you are now speaking on behalf of all Zimbabwean people? And if we believe you, then all Zimbabwean people think Bob is a hero, and the media is lying to them?
You forget, that Bob LOST the last election, the people showed no faith in him by voting for someone else. Of course, that only means that Bob had to cr@ck some skulls in the follow-up election.
As is the case with Bob and Gaddafi, they were/are hated by their own people FOR OPPRESSION, and yet here on Sowetan we have to listen to their praise-singers. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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Phathuza - "My dream is every south african must have a share to the wealth of this country not the minority"
And in our case, the minority would be the ANC elite and the companies that do secret deals with the ruling party. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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mchana wat u are saying is pure misinformed data from the bretain media i dont read that kind of information those who knows ZIM story are so unhappy cause they know the trueth about wat happend to ZIM...check the contribution BRETAIN AND USA has made to ZIMBABWE after MUGABE spoke about land and you are wrong to say fams property wer taken by force it wasnt that agreement wer long ther it was agreed by bretain athat after 20 YEARS land will be reurned to ZIM ppl i dnt remeber the wording correct but is something about lang WAT WAT AGREEMENT that was drated.and COMRADE MUGABE never forced ppl to move but pursuaded them to hand over the land that wer taken illegaly under colonised way. surely you cant call a peron a citizen by way of colonised.
ZIMBABWE was destroyed by the sanctions created by bretain and usa and they froze the account of zimbabwe all over ,,SO pls explain to me how would have ZIM survived....RECHECK LOT OF YOUTUBE wer MUGABE is using his own mouth dont read check Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
swona
thats what malema wants when he speaks of nationalisation! Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
T.C.T
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all i know is MUGABE is admired by AFRICAN ppl and think high of him im just expressing wat i know about the trueth of ZIMBABWE not the trueth of bretain..
lost wich elections,provide proof?ZIM is a democratical country ppl choose who they admire maybe you should have spoken about BUSH wen he manipulated 500 000 votes to his advantage and the ppl chose to keep quiet
thats wer you are wrong GADDAFI issue was a well known fact that western are after oil and they bought those rebels,and rebels worked under the descision of the west to get it twisted dear Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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mchana wat u are saying is pure misinformed data from the bretain media i dont read that kind of information those who knows ZIM story are so unhappy cause they know the trueth about wat happend to ZIM...check the contribution BRETAIN AND USA has made to ZIMBABWE after MUGABE spoke about land and you are wrong to say fams property wer taken by force it wasnt that agreement wer long ther it was agreed by bretain athat after 20 YEARS land will be reurned to ZIM ppl i dnt remeber the wording correct but is something about lang WAT WAT AGREEMENT that was drated.and COMRADE MUGABE never forced ppl to move but pursuaded them to hand over the land that wer taken illegaly under colonised way. surely you cant call a peron a citizen by way of colonised.
ZIMBABWE was destroyed by the sanctions created by bretain and usa and they froze the account of zimbabwe all over ,,SO pls explain to me how would have ZIM survived....RECHECK LOT OF YOUTUBE wer MUGABE is using his own mouth dont read check
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But you said zim does not need the west and britain, there is no sanctions from china or india who is the biggest importers of diamonds, zim failed themselves through the greed of mugabe and zanu-pf, most of the people in zim does not want mugabe, do yourself a favour and go and read the zim herald and read the comments of the people from zim. dude since when do you go to zim and how many times have you been there? Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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T.C.T - Bob is HATED by Zimbabweans bru. For exploitation, for stealing from them... Like I said, we dont care much about the opinion of dictator-praise singers. The same people that think Zuma is doing a fantastic job. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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unfortunalty the same newspaper you are pointing and refering me to dont have lot of comments like here in sowetan,i will tell you for the last time ZIMBABWE was destroyed by BRETAIN AND USA.stop reading selcetive information organised by the britsh news CHECK MUGABE in his youtube and you will start to understand the real trueth about ZIMBABWE check a man using his own mouth Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Dandan
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geeeeese, who are you to tell me about Zim, WTF, Zim diamonds are the cheapest throughout the world to be extracted , who are you to tell us about Zim, you go to Kimberly you will falk millions for +200ks under ground, while in Zim is on the surface , thats the reason west are so hurtful with Mugabe, Zim does nt need west , its west that need Zim.
What do you know about China, shame boy, China is the second biggest country in the world with $7t after US with $11t , China is the biggest country in respect of FDI,export and importing ,let me remind with your west , as we talk right now BRICS is considering to have its won IMF where developing countries will be assisted instead of IMF, stay with your de.ad people called west, its over with you finish and klaar Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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T.C.T - "lost wich elections,provide proof?ZIM is a democratical country ppl choose who they admire maybe you should have spoken about BUSH wen he manipulated 500 000 votes to his advantage and the ppl chose to keep quiet"
Go read my comments on digg about Bush and the Florida voting scandal. In fact, you can follow all my comments about Dubya too. None of them flattering.
But anyways, are you comparing Bush to Bob now?
And yeah, MDC WON the election. Why dont you GOOGLE IT. Ask yourself this, if Bob won the elections, why is there a powersharing government in place?
I'll tell you WHY, because ZanuPF LOST the elections, but of course, being a DICTATOR, in a falsely democratic country, you dont give up power, you spin all sorts of nonsense to still get your way.
You dont know jack $h17 about Zimbabwe, yet you want to praise sing here? Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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T.C.T
unfortunalty the same newspaper you are pointing and refering me to dont have lot of comments like here in sowetan,i will tell you for the last time ZIMBABWE was destroyed by BRETAIN AND USA.stop reading selcetive information organised by the britsh news CHECK MUGABE in his youtube and you will start to understand the real trueth about ZIMBABWE check a man using his own mouth
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Dude, mugabe is nothing more than a murdering, lying imbacile who with his educated mouth knows how to manipulate small people, hence he still have the odd follower, go and read the herald of zimbabwe, you are right, there is not so many comments because 85% of the nation is now unemployed and can't even afford food because of what the zanu pf has done. if you battle to find the comments, they are at the bottom of the page and when they are finished there is a button called load more comments. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
T.C.T
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it was not a comparism but felt u needed to understand ZIM is a democratical country as long as western interfer with affairs of ZIM scandals will always remain even if MUGABE won without any dout british media will have something negative to comment,MDC is agent to the west and the west made it clear they want to see pu.ppet win,about powershaing THABO mbeki MADE IT POSSIBLE under negotiations btwn 2 parties dont convice it with anything negative or wrong assumtions u might have..your explanation is not valid or strong to be accepted and u know that....you too go and check youtubes of MUGABE and stop kidding around Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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T.C.T
RobinX
TCT. If he's "your leader" then why not head off to Zim to suffer under your precious tyrant with the rest of the Zimbabweans
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im planning to buy a peace of land that side the suffering you are refering to i see it on tv and this ppl chooses places that are so poor and neglect to show places that are beatiful...SOUTH AFRICA do have poor places and poor ppl that are staying in the same conditions as the zims.lets not be fooled by the british media pls my bra
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dont be part of the problem in my solutions plsss kikikikiki believing without seeing is a big wack
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Cum-on man stop lying, u cnt compare SA n Zim. Myself I've been in Gwanda, Bulawayo n sum of places I passed on my way to Harare n I was not impressed at all, the infrustructur u cud c it was gud bt now wat remains r jst shadows of Rhodesia. That country is collapsing, luk at Bulawayo (deteriorating). I remember my last trip there I even got a taxi jst rolled few kilos b4 Gwanda n I ended up watching helplessly as I was having no network, no car came in abt 15m, I decided to speed-off till were I spot officers n I ended-up in Gwanda n I found Police Officers who looked mor lyk heartless securities from dis very poor security company with no car, I ended-up giving-up de rescue mission n I went on with my journey Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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according to the western media it is like that however according to the original ppl is something opposite i dnt need to be told wat is the trueth wen i know the real trueth if you feel western media can decide which trueth u must know so let it be,but dont dragg me that way cause you only rely on the manipulated news of your kind hence i listen and read wat AFRICANS are saying not greedy basturd who want to steal the ZIM land..you know nothing about ZIM i can see Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
5SKIPAS
everyone supporting Mugabe mst jst leave SA in peace or else ........................
u cum 4 a refuge in SA n cums voting tyms u go n vote 4 Mugabe n cum back in SA leaving de less fortunate Zimbabweans stucked in dis grave bound madala. ppl who r voting 4 mugabe r de ones at fault for the state of ZIM's economy Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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T.C.T
according to the western media it is like that however according to the original ppl is something opposite i dnt need to be told wat is the trueth wen i know the real trueth if you feel western media can decide which trueth u must know so let it be,but dont dragg me that way cause you only rely on the manipulated news of your kind hence i listen and read wat AFRICANS are saying not greedy basturd who want to steal the ZIM land..you know nothing about ZIM i can see
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I read the comments of zimbabweans, I talk to zimbabweans, i see zimbabweans, I see what happened to that country in the last 16 years. You can't tell me what I see with my own eyes that I am wrong.
lololol, funny you still have not answered my question, when was the last time you went to zim and when did you start going to zim? Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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T.C.T - Zim isnt a democratic country. If you hold elections, but then threaten people with violence and intimidation, then its not democratic. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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how i liket wen you try to duck and dive in trying to twsit the argument by posing qtions at the same time,you are not the only person available who associate himself with the zimbabwe ppl.SO how come you didnt see lancaster agreement ?the sanctions and frozen accounts in zim?the manipulation of UN? stop kidding around asseblief....i dont remeber wen but its been long Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
joyful
Mugabe stealing
why is that still breaking news????? what is there in Zim that Mugabe and cronies have not stole???
Farms, houses, estates, businesses, vehicles, flights, diamonds, copper, votes, freedom of speech and expression, justice, health, peace .......etc..etc..etc..etc..etc........................................
I would not be surprised if they said Mugabe stole Oxygen from his people! Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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5SKIPAS
ppl who r voting 4 mugabe r de ones at fault for the state of ZIM's economy
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Thank you for the good words, I wish people in SA will realise this with the state that our country is going. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
T.C.T
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wena my brother you always have scary and uniformed stories available Who was violeted and intimidated?How comewe ppl never heared about that but you alone? ZIM got democracy before us Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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T.C.T - Heres the results of the last Zim elections (2008):
And then the intimidation and violence against MDC supporters started. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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T.C.T
how i liket wen you try to duck and dive in trying to twsit the argument by posing qtions at the same time,you are not the only person available who associate himself with the zimbabwe ppl.SO how come you didnt see lancaster agreement ?the sanctions and frozen accounts in zim?the manipulation of UN? stop kidding around asseblief....i dont remeber wen but its been long
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Dude, the sanctions are 100% legal because of what the zanu pf did to once a beautiful country. something tells me you never went to zim before. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
joyful
@ Phathuza
I am not against nationalisation infact I do support it because those minerals belongs to our country . My dream is every south african must have a share to the wealth of this country not the minority
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conflict of interest there. when have goverment ever given to the people? all they do is to take, just like they are pushing eToll down our throats ...............
be guaranteed that with nationalisation of mines, you will still own 0% of any mine - on top of that (if you work in mine) you will be either an unpaid mineworker or a previous mineworker! Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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T.C.T
!wena my brother you always have scary and uniformed stories available Who was violeted and intimidated?How comewe ppl never heared about that but you alone? ZIM got democracy before us
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Dude, please, go and read the zim newspapers, intimidation and violence is again in affect in zim before the elections next year, zanu pf does not want to hand over because they are enriching themselves.
T.C.T - "Who was violeted and intimidated?How comewe ppl never heared about that but you alone?"
EVERYONE heard about this, except you maybe? Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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surely u dont mean sanction of 2002 broer?im refering to sactions that wer made wen MUGABE became president thats you own problem u blv or u dnt Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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T.C.T - "Who was violeted and intimidated?How comewe ppl never heared about that but you alone?"
EVERYONE heard about this, except you maybe?
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I don't think he has ever been to zim. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Dandan
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Dude, mugabe is nothing more than a murdering, lying imbacile who with his educated mouth knows how to manipulate small people, hence he still have the odd follower, go and read the herald of zimbabwe, you are right, there is not so many comments because 85% of the nation is now unemployed and can't even afford food because of what the zanu pf has done. if you battle to find the comments, they are at the bottom of the page and when they are finished there is a button called load more comments.
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stop lying, talking about something you dont jknow therefo.
unemployment= offcourse the country was experiencing transition period , which country had stable economy under that period, guess 25000 wh.ite tobacco farmers were owning the land, after that transition, 65 000 bla.ck farmers benefited , the land was reannexed, in order to accommodate as much bla.ck as possible, 2010/11 these bla.ck farmers made $350m , followed by $570m in 2011/12 each making a profit of $170 k as an average, stop being sour losers you wh.ites , accept Mugabe kicked your a%%% , $170k is a huge income they can afford to send their kids to schools and still making living compared to what you did in Zim
Read business report , SA has since found market in Zim , what you are ranting about is nonsense, Zim is making turn around Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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joyful - Its like the land debate here in South Africa. The government uses our tax billions to buy thousands of acres of land. It regularly stands in front of the media, saying people need land.
But they never redistribute the land that they acquire. They lease it out, but it never remains your property, it always belongs to the government. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
joyful
@5SKIPAS
everyone supporting Mugabe mst jst leave SA in peace or else ........................
u cum 4 a refuge in SA n cums voting tyms u go n vote 4 Mugabe n cum back in SA leaving de less fortunate Zimbabweans stucked in dis grave bound madala. ppl who r voting 4 mugabe r de ones at fault for the state of ZIM's economy
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well said, really well said! this includes T.C.T and Dandan. since you people worship the ground of his Royal robing-self, the corrupter, polluter, looter and opressor of Zim Mr. Robber Mugrabage - please do us the honour of depart SA and relocate to Zim!
God knows we can do with a reduction of 6 millions+ Zims! especially these trying times when jobs are scarce!
are you supprised to see that?remember its the bbc that broadcast that rubbish news trying to push britain agenda cause america made it clear they will remove MUGABE and they will put MORGAN so im not shaken or conviced by the stats...VIVA COMRADE MUGABE VIVA ...you migh not realise and see the progress MUGABE made for the ZIMBABWEAN now and i dnt blame u
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tell me about it! they actually "reclaim" the farms from poor groups - who were "given" land but no money & skill to be productive...............
they are good in that, buy the farms from white owners - assign it to poor black group, promise them assistance - don't deliver(as usual) on that promise, come back after a couple of years and reclaim the farm. lease it out and who knows where that money goes?????? Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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T.C.T - Come on dude...
Whenever the ANC f***s up here in South Africa, they blame apartheid.
Whenever Bob f***s up, he blames the BBC/America/UK etc.
T.C.T - "Who was violeted and intimidated?How comewe ppl never heared about that but you alone?"
EVERYONE heard about this, except you maybe?
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who is everyone pls be more specific and stop beating around the bush!!!
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stop being a cheerleader and face ur own battles plss love
T.C.T - "who is everyone pls be more specific and stop beating around the bush!!!"
Everyone that follows world politics and is not ignorant? Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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surely u dont mean sanction of 2002 broer?im refering to sactions that wer made wen MUGABE became president thats you own problem u blv or u dnt
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Dude, you are now showing your ignorance and just plain stupidity for trying to debate on something you have no idea about, there was no sanctions, the world wanted a fair and free election and mugabe became president. Then 2 years later he started the killing of the ndebele tribe, dude, it amazes me how little you know about your hero, sjeeez, .
T.C.T - Come on dude...
Whenever the ANC f***s up here in South Africa, they blame apartheid.
Whenever Bob f***s up, he blames the BBC/America/UK etc.
"im not shaken or conviced by the stats"
You mean ELECTION RESULTS?
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but they are the creators of all evils happening in AFRICA do u blame them? every wer ppl cry about them and u wont find aby place wer ppl will cry about us
joyful
you can come anytime and work on my magic stick and il compensate you fo job well done Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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T.C.T - The time for blaming the west and colonialism is FAR gone dude... Zim got its independence in 1980, and yet Bob and you are still crying about it?
Like I said, blaming the west/colonialism, is merely how African leaders, who f*** up, can shift blame away from themselves.
The funny thing is, so many Africans are so gullable, that they believe this bull$h17.
I mean, look at this article, Bob and his cronies stealing R2 BILLION from Zimbabwe, and here you are, blaming the west. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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Dandan
stop lying, talking about something you dont jknow therefo.
unemployment= offcourse the country was experiencing transition period , which country had stable economy under that period, guess 25000 wh.ite tobacco farmers were owning the land, after that transition, 65 000 bla.ck farmers benefited , the land was reannexed, in order to accommodate as much bla.ck as possible, 2010/11 these bla.ck farmers made $350m , followed by $570m in 2011/12 each making a profit of $170 k as an average, stop being sour losers you wh.ites , accept Mugabe kicked your a%%% , $170k is a huge income they can afford to send their kids to schools and still making living compared to what you did in Zim
Read business report , SA has since found market in Zim , what you are ranting about is nonsense, Zim is making turn around
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Dude, lol, you must be a malema supporter as well, go and look in the herald of zimbobwe for unemployment figures, then also those farms that you talk about, it was a week after that malema spoke about it that the people had to go to courts because the farms were going to be taken by the few elite, I will quickly see if I can find it for you. So SA has a market in zim, go and read again, they just state that it is imports to SA, what they are not saying is that those goods are moving through SA for export to china in exchange for other things. hehehehehehhe. dandan, how is your few chickens and goats? Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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stop looking info that will please you in the dustbins, to be smart go and buy Fin Mail and Economics mag , stop coming to me with mickey mice /gimmick stories Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
joyful
@Dandan
since Zim is so good - why don't you go over to their news blog pages and comment there???? what could you possible want from SA's News media blogs?????? Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
T.C.T
!#Sinudeity#!
T.C.T - "who is everyone pls be more specific and stop beating around the bush!!!"
Everyone that follows world politics and is not ignorant?
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ohh i see,then you pose a wrong question to me unintensionally?those who are more knowleadgeable will keep on wondering why kids like acting as if they are grown ups!!! eish ignorant ppl sometimes!
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unfortunatly its not my fault if i pose stupid and ignorant question to you just bcause u lack more infor regarding issue and qtions i raise about ZIM stop pretending as if you know so much about ZIM.if u cant remeber sactions of 2002 thats ur problem..32yrs ZIMbabwe is under MUGABE and he is doing a good job DE
@joyful
since Zim is so good - why don't you go over to their news blog pages and comment there???? what could you possible want from SA's News media blogs??????
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you also stop lying to zim , zim is a best country to be, you think Zim di.ed after your colonisers, never Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
!#Sinudeity#!
Dandan - So move to Zim then, if its the land of milk and honey and tenders. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Dandan
!#Sinudeity#!
Dandan - So move to Zim then, if its the land of milk and honey and tenders.
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Oooh yes Im networking with zims I need tobacco plot too Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
!#Sinudeity#!
Dandan - Meanwhile, Zim imports all its maize from Zambia, home of the former Zimbabwean exiled farmers. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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Dandan
stop looking info that will please you in the dustbins, to be smart go and buy Fin Mail and Economics mag , stop coming to me with mickey mice /gimmick stories
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lolol, you mean the truth because you do not want to see it. Go and play small boy.. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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T.C.T
unfortunatly its not my fault if i pose stupid and ignorant question to you just bcause u lack more infor regarding issue and qtions i raise about ZIM stop pretending as if you know so much about ZIM.if u cant remeber sactions of 2002 thats ur problem..32yrs ZIMbabwe is under MUGABE and he is doing a good job DE
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Dude, you must try to get with the debate, you said,
T.C.T
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surely u dont mean sanction of 2002 broer?im refering to sactions that wer made wen MUGABE became president thats you own problem u blv or u dnt
Then I gave you the reason for the sanctions and it was not when he became president. Eish, wena, wake up, get a strong coffee Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Dandan
!#Sinudeity#!
Dandan - Meanwhile, Zim imports all its maize from Zambia, home of the former Zimbabwean exiled farmers.
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blahblahblahblah, there is no land that suits evrything, maize crops in zim does nt suit, if it was a case mpumalanga in SA would be planting grapes and maize in CT
@SOLUTIONS, there is nothing I can learn from you if you still dont know Zim is the cheapest country for mining , telling me diamond is all the world , nt here with me, boy , if you want to be man buy Fin and Econ Mag subscribe in actual fact , therefore your brain will be quick Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
RobinX
TCT: "he is doing a good job DE: Oh wow, really? Please let us have a few actual, verifiable succes-stories then shall we, and the enlargement of Grace's dairy farm doesn't count....... Go on, stun me, please.
he is doing a good job DE HA HA HA HAHAHAHA.
Anyways, guys are steering away from the topic now.
The point is, Bob (Hero of the African), stole $2 billion from his own country. Money could have been used to rebuild the economy. The money equals to HALF of the entire Zim governments annual budget.
Everything in Zimbabwe belongs to bro Bob Mugabe there no such stealing. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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Dandan
@SOLUTIONS, there is nothing I can learn from you if you still dont know Zim is the cheapest country for mining , telling me diamond is all the world , nt here with me, boy , if you want to be man buy Fin and Econ Mag subscribe in actual fact , therefore your brain will be quick
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I am sure I can teach you how to spell better and construct better sentences, I did not argue with the fact that zim is cheap to mine, I mean, look at this article, bob and his cronies is stealing billions without effort but you are to thick headed to see that. I also did not say diamonds is all over the world, please point me to that comment. Eish wena, wake up, does your 3 chickens wake you to early in the morning. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
!#Sinudeity#!
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe - Of course, because when people chant "Nationalise", they actually mean, hand everything over to the chief :P Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Dandan
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".......................how to spell better and construct better sentences............................."=
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certainly sure , teach me your colonial language, but I will teach your subject contents for people with brains thats business science , take your english and shove it Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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Dandan
certainly sure , teach me your colonial language, but I will teach your subject contents for people with brains thats business science , take your english and shove it
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lolololol, so you are a person who attended business science classes but battle in the real world, lololololol. Did you just just pass with 30%? Please tell me, who wrote the books on business science, you just fool yourself once again, if you want to learn business science from the colonial masters you might as well learn to use their INTERNATIONAL Language.
Hows your 3 chickens and 2 goats, is that slaughter house up yet? Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
T.C.T
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surely u dont mean sanction of 2002 broer?im refering to sactions that wer made wen MUGABE became president thats you own problem u blv or u dnt
Then I gave you the reason for the sanctions and it was not when he became president. Eish, wena, wake up, get a strong coffee
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you need that coffe more than i do chief ,what was your reson?cause u failed to answer that!! how can i debate with a person who judges ppl and calling them stupid etc?
RobinX
grabbing the land from the colonisers is a good job and no amount of words can describe that you can see it as a small thing but majority of AFRICANS dont,ask ur self why china today is so powerful cause they dont joke around with their land like we do here. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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T.C.T
This is a post about zoomer, but you fail to see some of the points in mugabe, are you for real?
how can u respect a person who undermine the constittuion of this country and the party? (lets make it zimbobwe)
how can you respect a person who changes women as if they are underwears?
how can we respect a person who is involved in criminal activities and dont want to account or proof his innocent? ----KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE, DIAMONDS,
how can we resepct a person who make babies with his friend kids??
how can we respect a person who rape rape woman?
accept you dont have business brains, but thank me for giving you lessons about BRICS,West,US and how to research business environment, when my parents emphasised commerce and science your parents were preoccopied by english ascent , blahblahblahblah today you are joke Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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T.C.T
you need that coffe more than i do chief ,what was your reson?cause u failed to answer that!! how can i debate with a person who judges ppl and calling them stupid etc?
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Eish Wena, if the shoe fits, wear it, Where did I fail to answer what, please give the question again, if it is this one I will break it up for you.
surely u dont mean sanction of 2002 broer? ----------------- NO
im refering to sactions that wer made wen MUGABE became president thats you own problem u blv or u dnt
Dude, you are now showing your ignorance and just plain stupidity for trying to debate on something you have no idea about, there was no sanctions, the world wanted a fair and free election and mugabe became president(not even president prime minister, i think in 1987 the prime minister was taken away and president started. Then 2 years later he started the killing off the ndebele tribe, dude, it amazes me how little you know about your hero, sjeeez, .
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Nov 13, 2012
antie
T.C.T. the Chine.se acquired their land the same way the white man in Africa did. I see you now admire it. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Dandan
@antie
point of correction, remember CCP came into power in 1949 after outsing Kuomantang (Racist regime, similar to apartheid regime) since then chinesse were under communist regime, get your facts in order Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
!#Sinudeity#!
T.C.T - You see what Bob did?
Bob took the land from the colonizers, and the millions of pounds that the colonizers paid for the land. Look up the Lancaster agreement. UK paid R500 million per the agreement, AND paid half for the cost of targeted land according to 'Willing buyer/willing seller'. And they helped build infrastructure on the land that was earmarked.
And you know what? The average Zimbabwean didnt see a cent of that money, it all went into Bobs pocket. Your hero is a standup guy. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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Dandan
accept you dont have business brains, but thank me for giving you lessons about BRICS,West,US and how to research business environment, when my parents emphasised commerce and science your parents were preoccopied by english ascent , blahblahblahblah today you are joke
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Yes dandan, I have no business sense you are correct, my business is going but without my business sense it makes it feel great. Thanks,
lolololl, you did not give me any lessons on BRICS, lol, you know that the West is the US you always talk about, (joke only)
lol dude, one must be able to read when you do research and if this is the way you spell you obviously did not know what my parents generation was writing. lololol.
Hows the 3 chickens and the 2 goats, how far is the slaughter house for them? Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
T.C.T
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first u dont compare a president who is intelligent and is leading in the whole world wen coming to academical achievement if compared with other world president! especially comparing him with stnd 2 drop out indeed wen coming to womenizing ZOOMA is the most vava voom one in the world not forgeting his best buddy Mswathi...Mugabe is protecting his land and his not shying away from that Mugabe dont dance and jive 24 hrs and enjoy lot of sex not forgeting rape 700 charges that need answeres etc he dont pretend and smile with enemies he call a spade a spade something west dont like. WEDA you hate MUGABE and choose to blv wat the cnn and bbc is saying thats your problem but plss hate him knowing the trueth atleast cause i did check your mixed up information and its a shame u are stubbon u dont want to allow ur self a chance to be guided by those who no more than you Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
!#Sinudeity#!
Dandan - So whats Ch1na doing in Tibet dude? The Communist Ch1nese Party is more apartheid than anything else. They even had trade agreements with the apartheid government when the rest of the world blockaded. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
antie
Dandan, go back in history properly, and get YOUR facts straight. The earth is a lot older than 100 years boy. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Dandan
@SOLUTIONS
you sdomo maaan domkop , you didnt know China has the biggest GDP in the world , you didnt even know what is IMF I gave you tips , reread my blogs they are very intersting Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
!#Sinudeity#!
T.C.T - Bob is protecting his land? Do you even know how much of Zimbabwe land Bob gave away to Fidel Castro? Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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T.C.T,
Go and speak to someone in the Ndebele tribe and ask them how their people was murdered one by one in gruesome ways by zanu pf, please do yourself a favour, please read this article about diamonds that is stolen, please read how mugabes people suffer and his wife and children goes on shopping sprees in Switzerland.
Please go and see how many people were jailed just for talking against mugabe, people in the streets are not even allowed to say something bad against him or they get the end of a stick.
You ten too one support the i.diot king of swaziland as well hey? Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
!#Sinudeity#!
Dandan - The US GDP is THREE TIMES greater than China's. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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Ooh, I see a senior ANC person has defected to the DA. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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Dandan
you sdomo maaan domkop , you didnt know China has the biggest GDP in the world
Please tell me where I contested it, thanks for the info but dude, as far as I know the US has still the biggest GDP as per 14.6$ against China's 10$, maybe this was a while ago and I do not really care about it, I just make money from both countries. I will see if I can find that link for you. I think China has the fastest growth though.
, you didnt even know what is IMF I gave you tips , reread my blogs they are very intersting
Dude really, I did not read where you even spoke about IMF, you are as interesting as your spelling, weak, uneducated and dull. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Dandan
@antie
what is that you dont get , so fuming like this
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Dandan - So whats Ch1na doing in Tibet dude?== because they are factionalists Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
T.C.T
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thank you so much my chief for pointing out that the world wanted free and fair election DO WE agree that after COMRADE MUGABE became president things started to get out of controll? not because he was a president because BRITAIN AND USA Freezed ZIMBABWEAN accounts all over the world and ZIM could nt progress without money and the very same ppl im refering to also lodged some sanctions to ZIMBABWE and investors wer withdrawing their business out of ZIM so one sober mined person can realise that the purpose that the western desired indeed it happen they destabilised and made ZIMBABWE wat is is today,why DONT u ask yourself why chines are busy doing business with ZIM?and funny enough the very same ppl from the west are now returning burg doing business in ZIM cause they hoped their intention will work if they are not availbale in ZIM but we thank CHINES business to pick up ZIM..so fo the last time stop reading british newspaper cause they will try by all means to destroy MY LEADER and favourite president
antie
you and your respond are irrelevent dont have time to wast so buzzzz offf plssss..kikikiki
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selective reading wont dou any good,,,what do u understand about lancaster afreement and wat kind of contets did it have?and wat does it say about land specifically? Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
antie
Dandan....."what is it you dont get , so fuming like this'......HUH?????? Report Abuse
@antie
Dandan....."what is it you dont get , so fuming like this'......HUH??????
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can we angage on intellectual debates otherthan shows off, unless you lack thereof, since I caught you from the beginings Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
antie
T.C.T, then don't talk history if you don't know history my man. You say stup.id things and then run away when you are challenged. I suppose it is one way you can tell your friends you won the argument. No scars coz you did not stand for the fight. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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T.C.T
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thank you so much my chief for pointing out that the world wanted free and fair election DO WE agree that after COMRADE MUGABE became president things started to get out of controll? not because he was a president because BRITAIN AND USA Freezed ZIMBABWEAN accounts all over the world and ZIM could nt progress without money and the very same ppl im refering to also lodged some sanctions to ZIMBABWE and investors wer withdrawing their business out of ZIM so one sober mined person can realise that the purpose that the western desired indeed it happen they destabilised and made ZIMBABWE wat is is today,why DONT u ask yourself why chines are busy doing business with ZIM?and funny enough the very same ppl from the west are now returning burg doing business in ZIM cause they hoped their intention will work if they are not availbale in ZIM but we thank CHINES business to pick up ZIM..so fo the last time stop reading british newspaper cause they will try by all means to destroy MY LEADER and favourite president
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Dude, you do not get it, the sanctions was brought against him because he tried to w.ipe out an entire t.ribe, how difficult is it for you to understand this????????? He is a murderer and should have been taken to the world court and exterminated.
C.hinese is bringing business into zim yes, and their own people to do the c.heap l.abour, how is this helping the people of zimbabwe, please explain?
Dandan, only you and T.C.T know what you are saying because it certainly is not english. Here's what I say...Chine.se stole their land 100's of years ago. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Dandan
antie
antie
T.C.T, then don't talk history if you don't know history my man. You say stup.id things and then run away when you are challenged. I suppose it is one way you can tell your friends you won the argument. No scars coz you did not stand for the fight.
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why are you nt bringing down your facts instead you are busy being so funny , get on intellectual debates , we dont want to be silly but you prove to be more silly Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
T.C.T
!#Sinudeity#!
T.C.T - Bob is protecting his land? Do you even know how much of Zimbabwe land Bob gave away to Fidel Castro?
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that is not the issue! the main issue is the condision ZIM is under and who is to blame?you cant expect ZIMBABWEANS to own 20% of land especiallif they are more than millions and colonisers own 80% cause that was the issue MUGABE was fighting for. so pls dont come with pick and point selcetive info
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dont tell me about Joshua Nkomo ppl cause the info is been manipulated to paint MUGABE to be seen as a monster im sure you know the capabilities of the west u dnt need me to teach u how cruel and brutal they are Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Dandan
antie
Dandan, only you and T.C.T know what you are saying because it certainly is not english. Here's what I say...Chine.se stole their land 100's of years ago.
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this isnt complete statement , thats why I said you lack intellectual debates , its vacuum, to engage with other intellects remove all silly words , it might help you for future Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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antie
Dandan, only you and T.C.T know what you are saying because it certainly is not english. Here's what I say...Chine.se stole their land 100's of years ago.
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I do not understand it, dandan is acting as if he has worlds knowledge about economics and business but he is unable to spell one of them correctly. It amazes me. Last time he bragged about his 16 mil slaughter house that is going up and today he can't even tell me how it is going with his 3 chickens and 2 goats, must off slaughtered them before the slaughter house was finished for a b day or something.
T.C.T is trying to say that mugabe is a good president for almost killing of an entire tribe and killing 1000's of people through hunger and torture but in the same time say that zooma is a bad president because he is corrupt, have kids with friends daughter and many wifes, but mugabe the murderer is ok.
T.C.T
dont tell me about Joshua Nkomo ppl cause the info is been manipulated to paint MUGABE to be seen as a monster im sure you know the capabilities of the west u dnt need me to teach u how cruel and brutal they are
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Dude, that is what I am saying, stop being thick and blaming the west for things that are true, stop being a blind sheep and follow zanu pf lies without even doing research and talk to the Ndebele people themselves. Eish, for once in your life, do the right thing and get the correct information dude, it is amazing to know the truth and I am telling it to you today, not too long ago you also jumped up and down for zooma when you were told it is the wrong person, today you want him out because you did not listen. Eish, some are just followers and no sign of leadership anywhere. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
T.C.T
RobinX
TCT: Enlighten us, please
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i will my brother cause my ppl are so lost
antie
Dandan, only you and T.C.T know what you are saying because it certainly is not english. Here's what I say...Chine.se stole their land 100's of years ago
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argument cant be won cause no person can validate or invalidat issues each one want to stand there ground so next time dont embarrass yourself to that level plsss..
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icc must start with bush and tony before it can start with mugabe and selective justice wont help cause we know the trueth not the western trueth that has been manipulated to protect their own intrest by the manner in wich u describe this sanctions clearly suggest u are un-infomerd regarding that Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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T.C.T
cc must start with bush and tony before it can start with mugabe and selective justice wont help cause we know the trueth not the western trueth that has been manipulated to protect their own intrest by the manner in wich u describe this sanctions clearly suggest u are un-infomerd regarding that
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I am going to say this once again, don't believe the west, do not believe the zanu pf, go and find out for yourself, the problem is you must go to zimbabwe to find it out or try to get some people of the Ngebele tribe in SA and they will tell you. Get it from the horses mouth. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
antie
Dandan, I've retyped my statement on Microsoft
word and did a spell and grammar check. I then checked for verbs, nouns etc as well as punctuation, and my statement is a complete statement according to all the english checks in place. Apart from re-writing history, you are now also re-writing the English language.
T.C.T. I actually just responded to you saying you admire the way the Chin.ese hold onto their land by saying that they "stol.e" their land. It was not all theirs to begin with. I was surprised that you would admire people who "ste.al" land. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Dandan
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jeeeer domkop I thought I gave you some lessons maaan about scientific research , what is that person will tell you about GDP, I give up Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
T.C.T
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thats wer me and you differ cause wena you chose to read newspapers that are from the british and neglect to listen a person speaking and expalining with his own mouth in fornt of the whole world let me tell you this BROTHER media decide for you wat you need to know and wat not to know cuse they guide your concousness in the direction they already planned that is why few of you fail to analysis issues cause most of the time you are lazy MUGABE said the tuth infront of the world and none of them challenged him based on wat he knows remember the very same western USED and trusted MUGABE even your lovely queen admired him. so dont bragg with a falsified information unlike u a hear them speaking and reasoning Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Dandan
@antie
stop being tsotsi, the argument is china, dont tell us about grammatical issues here , lets accept you dont know what you were talking about, shutup, we dont do engllish language here Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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Dandan
jeeeer domkop I thought I gave you some lessons maaan about scientific research , what is that person will tell you about GDP, I give up
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Oh my goodness, you are a s.tupid i.diot, that comment was not sent to for you, """Shakes head and puts palm to face""""""
So, where do you get the stats that China has the biggest GDP domkop? Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
antie
Solutions, I think today you found the two problems to your solutions. You say go speak to Ndebele people about how they feel, and Dandan talks GDP. You talk GDP, and Dandan talks facts being twisted. I won't even mention T.C.T. Soos ons sê.." leë blikke maak die meeste geraas." Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
antie
Dandan, oh sorry, now the argument is Chin.a again. YOU were the one who started talking grammar, but okay, I'll humour you this one more time. What is it you want to know about Chin.a my dear? Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
MommaC
LOL
I see the laatjies are going around in circles in the fishbowl again. Oh the mamparadom of being so young and stupid. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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thats wer me and you differ cause wena you chose to read newspapers that are from the british and neglect to listen a person speaking and expalining with his own mouth in fornt of the whole world let
Dont be a fokken dom D, I mos say the whole time you must go and talk to the people who it happened too, it is just as well I start to say with a lot of white people that there was never such a thing as apartheid and the rest of the world believes us because they do not want to come and talk to s.tupid tct i.diot. FFS man, read what I say, I also don't just read the newspapers, I also talk to people, have you even been to zimbabwe, you have not answered this once so I expect you have not gone there once. FFS your head is all around mugabe, is it up is a.ss.
MommaC, I am enjoying shaking the bowl. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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antie
Solutions, I think today you found the two problems to your solutions. You say go speak to Ndebele people about how they feel, and Dandan talks GDP. You talk GDP, and Dandan talks facts being twisted. I won't even mention T.C.T. Soos ons sê.." leë blikke maak die meeste geraas."
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LOLOLOL, I have never seen such blatant stupidity or ignorance, in Afrikaans there is a word for it, dom astrant. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
T.C.T
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for the LAST TIME the wars in AFRICA are the same lets agree!the wars are created by greed from the west lets agree! so WHAT is different with ZIMBABWE cause all u will hear its genocide ,human rights blah blh etc who caused this trouble in AFRICA who benefit from AFRICA minerals? BIN LADEN,SADDAM HUSSAIN,GADDAFI are killed because they wer protecting their resources and cases from their side are the same created by the WEST we will be told this ppl are abusing their ppl etc sam as we hear about MUGABE the very same ppl are saying MUGABE is abusing his ppl and we both know that not trueth it is you who need to go and recheck the info u are reading but il advice you to listen to those who speak and comment
antie
you i dont undersand you cause you are to much clever for me i said china owns its land and dont compromise wen coming to that even the ppl who want to do business ther knows that Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
MommaC
antie
:) throw some Omo in - makes shaking it more fun Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
antie
T.C.T. sure Chin.a owns its land now, just like white farmers here own their land now. People who want to do business here knows that too. Fact remains, it wasn't theirs to begin with, so I still don't understand why you admire the Chine.se for holding on to their land, unless,of course, you are saying that you admire and support the white farmers here too.. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
antie
MommaC, wath this space for the foam :) Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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T.C.T
for the LAST TIME the wars in AFRICA are the same lets agree!the wars are created by greed from the west lets agree!
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So mugabe killing millions who is against him in zimbabwe is the west's fault, DOMMER AS GROND comes to mind.
FRICA minerals? BIN LADEN,SADDAM HUSSAIN,GADDAFI are killed because they wer protecting their resources and cases from their side are the same created by the WEST we will be told this ppl are abusing their ppl etc sam as we hear about MUGABE the very same ppl are saying MUGABE is abusing his ppl and we both know that not trueth it is you who need to go and recheck the info u are reading but il advice you to listen to those who speak and comment
Oh my goodness, t.c.t, I am starting to think you are a troll because I have never met someone as s.tupid, I am sorry to say this in this way but it is true. I am just glad that most of zimbabwe disagree with you because you are trying to save their country with an murderer and criminal and yet you have not been there once to see the people suffering.
Your outlook is of that of countries that is falling and have hit the ground hard, you will notice zim has not hit rock bottom yet, it is still going down. More people are going to die in the next few months. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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T.C.T
antie
you i dont undersand you cause you are to much clever for me
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i nearly p!ssed myself when I read this. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
T.C.T
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dont compare information you received from your 2 farmers and assume that is valid info doesnt mean if u befriend your workers now you know so much about ZIM lisen to my leader MUGABE he was interviewed in CNN and he answered those silly news perfectly and your lovely interviewer was left exposed cause nobody can argue with the facts MUGABE is a good leader admired by majority of AFRICAN ppl but disliked by few but it wont be fo long watcg the space..
l.efa ke sa u.tlwa A.FRIKAANS go s.iame but assume wat ever u said is good m.aaan Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
T.C.T
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T.C.T
antie
you i dont undersand you cause you are to much clever for me
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i nearly p!ssed myself when I read this
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thats how we dismiss educated ppl!!! Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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T.C.T
dont compare information you received from your 2 farmers and assume that is valid info doesnt mean if u befriend your workers now you know so much about ZIM lisen to my leader MUGABE he was interviewed in CNN and he answered those silly news perfectly and your lovely interviewer was left exposed cause nobody can argue with the facts MUGABE is a good leader admired by majority of AFRICAN ppl but disliked by few but it wont be fo long watcg the space..
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Dude, I use to go to zim twice a year, I met a lot of people and made friends with people at camps and lodges and hotels, you have not even been there now you want to believe a criminal on BBC who was taken out by the reporter so that he started to stutter. Admired no, he has put fear into his people. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
antie
T.C.T. I always talk good to you and about you, because I like you. You can debate. It's just when Dandan feels he must speak on your behalf that I get p!ssed off. I really see you as a man who can speak for himself. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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T.C.T
thats how we dismiss educated ppl!!!
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You should not dismiss them, you should try to learn from them, open the ears wide and take in what they say, don't always believe it immediately but go and do research. Don't let corrupt, murderer, torturing people get you the first time, you need to know the truth. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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T.C.T - And now the Zimbo's own all the land...
And yet they are unemployed, starving or residing on foreign countries. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
antie
Solutions, if they dismiss educated people, in whatever way, and they do not dismiss Uncle Bob, then that means Uncle Bob is not educated? Or does it mean he is not a people? Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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T.C.T - Let me ask you this...
If your country is being boycotted by the US and Europe...
Your economy is struggling...
But you can sell diamonds...
What do you do?
a) Use the $2 billion made from diamond sales to boost the economy
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Nov 13, 2012
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RobinX
TCT. If he's "your leader" then why not head off to Zim to suffer under your precious tyrant with the rest of the Zimbabweans.
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does the internet only work outside Zimbabwe? Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
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In all honesty, it is only due to people like T.C.T & Dandan that such an insane mafiosi like mugabe can still be the president of a country like Zimbobwe...and for such a long time too! Gents, your logic is beyond belief and pure science fiction! Incredible stuff, what planet are you guys from????
I thought that such numbskulls were a minority or just trolls but after giving it a bit more thought....and looking at the mess that pervades throughout Southern Africa, it is obvious that these guys are the majority.
With such outstanding odds in their favour, it must be so damn easy for people like uncle bob, Eduardo dos Santos, Joseph Kabila and now our very own aspirational two-headed demigod - the almighty Showera to take full advantage of the masses.
What is even more scary, when looking at the extraordinarily high levels of education found there throughout the late 80's and all of the 90's, is that Zim can find itself in such a position today? Seriously, what hope do we then have with our failed education system and the anc insistence on following the ZANU-PF blue print?
Are we to continue living our lives in poverty and misery, amongst an ever increasing demographic of ignorant, brainwashed masochists like T.C.T & Dandan? Time for change, free our minds people...it is almost too late! Report Abuse
Nov 14, 2012
RobinX
Lord-Have-Mercy: "does the internet only work outside Zimbabwe?"?????? What kind of dof question is that? What is your point, if indeed you have one?
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MommaC
This is terrible, they should nationalise the mines and it will all be alright again*wink*
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Phuphethakatha
Damn! That's what will happen when our mines are nationalised.Report Abuse
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lol @ mommac,Report Abuse
RobinX
This has been goiong on non-stop for ages and the world has chosen to turn a blind eye. People living in the area are co-erced into forced labour as well. All in all, a shocking example of exploitation by the Mugabe buddy-club.Report Abuse
JohnStone
On the flipside of the coin, the biggest problem by those alleging "theft" is that their proposed solution to the problem is to have the world's biggest diamonds deposits controlled by foreign companies. Unfortunately for them, Zimbabwe will never be a colony again.Zimbabweans must fix the problem of how proceeds from diamond sales are utilized, also they must stamp out any illeagl dealings, but they must never relinguish control of their precious minerals in return for a few paragraphs of "praise" by the media (mouthpiece of the corporate world).
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candilious
@MommaC/...............lolReport Abuse
MoNati
Where's Dandan?Its lies, all lies!! LOL
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T.C.T
is this a strategy to put focuse in MUGABE government by the bbc news and cnn news because elections are now nearer so they assume they can destabilize MY LEADER MUGABE?who braodcast this news?Report Abuse
RobinX
TCT. If he's "your leader" then why not head off to Zim to suffer under your precious tyrant with the rest of the Zimbabweans.Report Abuse
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T.C.Tis this a strategy to put focuse in MUGABE government by the bbc news and cnn news because elections are now nearer so they assume they can destabilize MY LEADER MUGABE?who braodcast this news?
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lolololol, no one as blind as those who does not WANT to see.
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T.C.T
RobinXTCT. If he's "your leader" then why not head off to Zim to suffer under your precious tyrant with the rest of the Zimbabweans
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im planning to buy a peace of land that side the suffering you are refering to i see it on tv and this ppl chooses places that are so poor and neglect to show places that are beatiful...SOUTH AFRICA do have poor places and poor ppl that are staying in the same conditions as the zims.lets not be fooled by the british media pls my bra
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dont be part of the problem in my solutions plsss kikikikiki believing without seeing is a big wack
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T.C.Tdont be part of the problem in my solutions plsss kikikikiki believing without seeing is a big wack
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When was the last time you went to zim, as you said to Robinx, yes there is poor places in SA as well, but not the whole of SA. The UN is supporting zim with millions of pounds of food and medical needs, this you cannot deny, you can even go and read on zim's newspapers that the worst is to come next year March/April when they again did not provide even close enough food for the nation where it use to be a fruit basket and hunger was a word not well known there.
When you go again, please go te hwane as well, go and looked what happened in that once a beautiful place flourishing with animals.
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Right-Back-Khumalo
Why is it our problem? His stealing does not affect us at all, I think...Report Abuse
Phathuza
I am not against nationalisation infact I do support it because those minerals belongs to our country . My dream is every south african must have a share to the wealth of this country not the minorityReport Abuse
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PhathuzaI am not against nationalisation infact I do support it because those minerals belongs to our country . My dream is every south african must have a share to the wealth of this country not the minority
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Dude, you obviously did not read the article, """""Hangs and shakes head"""""
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RobinX
TCT, Well then, goodbye. I presume you will have the good grace not to involve yourself in SA affairs then, whuile you and Julius head off for your "greener pastures. You are in for a rude awakening, Sir, unless you have sufficient wealth to buffer you from the so-called "elite" - or, of course, unless one is a willing sycophant. You choose. No pun intended in using the word "grace"......Report Abuse
Dandan
@MoNatiWhere's Dandan?
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Yes of course, these are damn pathetic lies , blue lies , lol , for the fact that these stones are nt accessible by west they become so Jealous, they think they can survive without Zim, shame, Zim does nt need them, they need Zim
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Mantengwane
Funny how some SA'ns would come out in full praise of that murderous "comrade" Mugabe and would jump at Mugabe's mirror reflection Malema when he vomits similar rhetoric about SA's future. The Mugabes and Malemas of this world can only get praise by those benefiting from their trecherous ways.Report Abuse
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DandanYes of course, these are damn pathetic lies , blue lies , lol , for the fact that these stones are nt accessible by west they become so Jealous, they think they can survive without Zim, shame, Zim does nt need them, they need Zim
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Lololol, there is more than enough diamonds for the west in other countries, maybe you should also do research and see that these diamonds of zim goes to china, Then you must also tell me why the UN needs to support zim with tons and tons of food. Dude, you should really think before you type.
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T.C.T
SOLUTIONSare you talking about the same UN that tried to sabotage MUGABE government with the lies of ppl who died under MUGABE saying britain must take over,dont be one sided in your view wena go to the bundus of limpopo or eastern cape or north west,ppl are still suffering big time and they are not different to the zims,jst bcos me and you are not experiencing that kind of life doesnt mean SA is progressing like you wish,beare in mund that some ZIMS who are like me and you feel the same to be manipulated by want the media from bretain and usa is suggesting about food parcels remeber Braitain and US are the ppl who made ZIM to be wat it is today,by freezing government accounts and lot and lot of sanctions aftr MUGABE became PRESIDENT remember MUGABE was loved by them so much aftr touchng the issue of land thats wer problems started cases wer formulated against him and queen elizabeth called mugabe SIR so wat happend? and bribbing ppl with food mean nothing
RobinX
thank you my brother i wont wast my preciouse time thinking or fantacing about corrupt mzanzi that is demolishing houses fo its own ppl stealing billions from its own ppl and pretending to care
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T.C.Tare you talking about the same UN that tried to sabotage MUGABE government with the lies of ppl who died under MUGABE saying britain must take over,dont be one sided in your view wena go to the bundus of limpopo or eastern cape or north west,ppl are still suffering big time and they are not different to the zims,jst bcos me and you are not experiencing that kind of life doesnt mean SA is progressing like you wish,
No it is not progressing because uneducated numbnuts are in power, dude, maybe you should go and read the history of mugabe and the tribe he almost took out completely, this is no lies, go and talk to the few that is left.
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beare in mund that some ZIMS who are like me and you feel the same to be manipulated by want the media from bretain and usa is suggesting about food parcels remeber Braitain and US are the ppl who made ZIM to be wat it is today,by freezing government accounts and lot and lot of sanctions aftr MUGABE became PRESIDENT remember MUGABE was loved by them so much aftr touchng the issue of land thats wer problems started cases wer formulated against him and queen elizabeth called mugabe SIR so wat happend? and bribbing ppl with food mean nothing
Dude, mugabe and his thugs made zim what it is today, telling thugs to go and kill tribes, to go and kill farmers, taking them off their properties and making millions starve, stop blaming everyone and pointing fingers. One decides ones own destiny. She might have called him sir, but when someone starts to kill people for nothing it is a crime against humanity.
bribing people with food you say, so the UN should stop sending food so that millions can die, who the f are you to talk for a mother who is holding her dying son in her arms, damn ignorant fool. Most of the zimbos does not want mugabe in power because he is just there for himself, just like your anc and their i.diot counterparts.
Wake up and smell the incompetence, greed, murder and corruption, silly little boy.
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T.C.T - So, as a South African, you are now speaking on behalf of all Zimbabwean people? And if we believe you, then all Zimbabwean people think Bob is a hero, and the media is lying to them?You forget, that Bob LOST the last election, the people showed no faith in him by voting for someone else. Of course, that only means that Bob had to cr@ck some skulls in the follow-up election.
As is the case with Bob and Gaddafi, they were/are hated by their own people FOR OPPRESSION, and yet here on Sowetan we have to listen to their praise-singers.
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Phathuza - "My dream is every south african must have a share to the wealth of this country not the minority"And in our case, the minority would be the ANC elite and the companies that do secret deals with the ruling party.
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T.C.T
SOLUTIONSmchana wat u are saying is pure misinformed data from the bretain media i dont read that kind of information those who knows ZIM story are so unhappy cause they know the trueth about wat happend to ZIM...check the contribution BRETAIN AND USA has made to ZIMBABWE after MUGABE spoke about land and you are wrong to say fams property wer taken by force it wasnt that agreement wer long ther it was agreed by bretain athat after 20 YEARS land will be reurned to ZIM ppl i dnt remeber the wording correct but is something about lang WAT WAT AGREEMENT that was drated.and COMRADE MUGABE never forced ppl to move but pursuaded them to hand over the land that wer taken illegaly under colonised way. surely you cant call a peron a citizen by way of colonised.
ZIMBABWE was destroyed by the sanctions created by bretain and usa and they froze the account of zimbabwe all over ,,SO pls explain to me how would have ZIM survived....RECHECK LOT OF YOUTUBE wer MUGABE is using his own mouth dont read check
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swona
thats what malema wants when he speaks of nationalisation!Report Abuse
T.C.T
!#Sinudeity#!all i know is MUGABE is admired by AFRICAN ppl and think high of him im just expressing wat i know about the trueth of ZIMBABWE not the trueth of bretain..
lost wich elections,provide proof?ZIM is a democratical country ppl choose who they admire maybe you should have spoken about BUSH wen he manipulated 500 000 votes to his advantage and the ppl chose to keep quiet
thats wer you are wrong GADDAFI issue was a well known fact that western are after oil and they bought those rebels,and rebels worked under the descision of the west to get it twisted dear
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T.C.Tmchana wat u are saying is pure misinformed data from the bretain media i dont read that kind of information those who knows ZIM story are so unhappy cause they know the trueth about wat happend to ZIM...check the contribution BRETAIN AND USA has made to ZIMBABWE after MUGABE spoke about land and you are wrong to say fams property wer taken by force it wasnt that agreement wer long ther it was agreed by bretain athat after 20 YEARS land will be reurned to ZIM ppl i dnt remeber the wording correct but is something about lang WAT WAT AGREEMENT that was drated.and COMRADE MUGABE never forced ppl to move but pursuaded them to hand over the land that wer taken illegaly under colonised way. surely you cant call a peron a citizen by way of colonised.
ZIMBABWE was destroyed by the sanctions created by bretain and usa and they froze the account of zimbabwe all over ,,SO pls explain to me how would have ZIM survived....RECHECK LOT OF YOUTUBE wer MUGABE is using his own mouth dont read check
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But you said zim does not need the west and britain, there is no sanctions from china or india who is the biggest importers of diamonds, zim failed themselves through the greed of mugabe and zanu-pf, most of the people in zim does not want mugabe, do yourself a favour and go and read the zim herald and read the comments of the people from zim. dude since when do you go to zim and how many times have you been there?
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T.C.T - Bob is HATED by Zimbabweans bru. For exploitation, for stealing from them... Like I said, we dont care much about the opinion of dictator-praise singers. The same people that think Zuma is doing a fantastic job.Report Abuse
T.C.T
SOLUTIONSunfortunalty the same newspaper you are pointing and refering me to dont have lot of comments like here in sowetan,i will tell you for the last time ZIMBABWE was destroyed by BRETAIN AND USA.stop reading selcetive information organised by the britsh news CHECK MUGABE in his youtube and you will start to understand the real trueth about ZIMBABWE check a man using his own mouth
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Dandan
@SOLUTIONSgeeeeese, who are you to tell me about Zim, WTF, Zim diamonds are the cheapest throughout the world to be extracted , who are you to tell us about Zim, you go to Kimberly you will falk millions for +200ks under ground, while in Zim is on the surface , thats the reason west are so hurtful with Mugabe, Zim does nt need west , its west that need Zim.
What do you know about China, shame boy, China is the second biggest country in the world with $7t after US with $11t , China is the biggest country in respect of FDI,export and importing ,let me remind with your west , as we talk right now BRICS is considering to have its won IMF where developing countries will be assisted instead of IMF, stay with your de.ad people called west, its over with you finish and klaar
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T.C.T - "lost wich elections,provide proof?ZIM is a democratical country ppl choose who they admire maybe you should have spoken about BUSH wen he manipulated 500 000 votes to his advantage and the ppl chose to keep quiet"Go read my comments on digg about Bush and the Florida voting scandal. In fact, you can follow all my comments about Dubya too. None of them flattering.
But anyways, are you comparing Bush to Bob now?
And yeah, MDC WON the election. Why dont you GOOGLE IT. Ask yourself this, if Bob won the elections, why is there a powersharing government in place?
I'll tell you WHY, because ZanuPF LOST the elections, but of course, being a DICTATOR, in a falsely democratic country, you dont give up power, you spin all sorts of nonsense to still get your way.
You dont know jack $h17 about Zimbabwe, yet you want to praise sing here?
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T.C.Tunfortunalty the same newspaper you are pointing and refering me to dont have lot of comments like here in sowetan,i will tell you for the last time ZIMBABWE was destroyed by BRETAIN AND USA.stop reading selcetive information organised by the britsh news CHECK MUGABE in his youtube and you will start to understand the real trueth about ZIMBABWE check a man using his own mouth
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Dude, mugabe is nothing more than a murdering, lying imbacile who with his educated mouth knows how to manipulate small people, hence he still have the odd follower, go and read the herald of zimbabwe, you are right, there is not so many comments because 85% of the nation is now unemployed and can't even afford food because of what the zanu pf has done. if you battle to find the comments, they are at the bottom of the page and when they are finished there is a button called load more comments.
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T.C.T
!#Sinudeity#!it was not a comparism but felt u needed to understand ZIM is a democratical country as long as western interfer with affairs of ZIM scandals will always remain even if MUGABE won without any dout british media will have something negative to comment,MDC is agent to the west and the west made it clear they want to see pu.ppet win,about powershaing THABO mbeki MADE IT POSSIBLE under negotiations btwn 2 parties dont convice it with anything negative or wrong assumtions u might have..your explanation is not valid or strong to be accepted and u know that....you too go and check youtubes of MUGABE and stop kidding around
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T.C.TRobinX
TCT. If he's "your leader" then why not head off to Zim to suffer under your precious tyrant with the rest of the Zimbabweans
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im planning to buy a peace of land that side the suffering you are refering to i see it on tv and this ppl chooses places that are so poor and neglect to show places that are beatiful...SOUTH AFRICA do have poor places and poor ppl that are staying in the same conditions as the zims.lets not be fooled by the british media pls my bra
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dont be part of the problem in my solutions plsss kikikikiki believing without seeing is a big wack
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Cum-on man stop lying, u cnt compare SA n Zim. Myself I've been in Gwanda, Bulawayo n sum of places I passed on my way to Harare n I was not impressed at all, the infrustructur u cud c it was gud bt now wat remains r jst shadows of Rhodesia. That country is collapsing, luk at Bulawayo (deteriorating). I remember my last trip there I even got a taxi jst rolled few kilos b4 Gwanda n I ended up watching helplessly as I was having no network, no car came in abt 15m, I decided to speed-off till were I spot officers n I ended-up in Gwanda n I found Police Officers who looked mor lyk heartless securities from dis very poor security company with no car, I ended-up giving-up de rescue mission n I went on with my journey
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T.C.T
SOLUTIONSaccording to the western media it is like that however according to the original ppl is something opposite i dnt need to be told wat is the trueth wen i know the real trueth if you feel western media can decide which trueth u must know so let it be,but dont dragg me that way cause you only rely on the manipulated news of your kind hence i listen and read wat AFRICANS are saying not greedy basturd who want to steal the ZIM land..you know nothing about ZIM i can see
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5SKIPAS
everyone supporting Mugabe mst jst leave SA in peace or else ........................u cum 4 a refuge in SA n cums voting tyms u go n vote 4 Mugabe n cum back in SA leaving de less fortunate Zimbabweans stucked in dis grave bound madala. ppl who r voting 4 mugabe r de ones at fault for the state of ZIM's economy
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T.C.Taccording to the western media it is like that however according to the original ppl is something opposite i dnt need to be told wat is the trueth wen i know the real trueth if you feel western media can decide which trueth u must know so let it be,but dont dragg me that way cause you only rely on the manipulated news of your kind hence i listen and read wat AFRICANS are saying not greedy basturd who want to steal the ZIM land..you know nothing about ZIM i can see
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I read the comments of zimbabweans, I talk to zimbabweans, i see zimbabweans, I see what happened to that country in the last 16 years. You can't tell me what I see with my own eyes that I am wrong.
lololol, funny you still have not answered my question, when was the last time you went to zim and when did you start going to zim?
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T.C.T - Zim isnt a democratic country. If you hold elections, but then threaten people with violence and intimidation, then its not democratic.Report Abuse
T.C.T
SOLUTIONShow i liket wen you try to duck and dive in trying to twsit the argument by posing qtions at the same time,you are not the only person available who associate himself with the zimbabwe ppl.SO how come you didnt see lancaster agreement ?the sanctions and frozen accounts in zim?the manipulation of UN? stop kidding around asseblief....i dont remeber wen but its been long
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joyful
Mugabe stealingwhy is that still breaking news????? what is there in Zim that Mugabe and cronies have not stole???
Farms, houses, estates, businesses, vehicles, flights, diamonds, copper, votes, freedom of speech and expression, justice, health, peace .......etc..etc..etc..etc..etc........................................
I would not be surprised if they said Mugabe stole Oxygen from his people!
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5SKIPASppl who r voting 4 mugabe r de ones at fault for the state of ZIM's economy
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Thank you for the good words, I wish people in SA will realise this with the state that our country is going.
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T.C.T
!#Sinudeity#!wena my brother you always have scary and uniformed stories available Who was violeted and intimidated?How comewe ppl never heared about that but you alone? ZIM got democracy before us
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T.C.T - Heres the results of the last Zim elections (2008):1st round:
ZanuPF (Popular votes): 1,079,730 [43.2%]
MDC-T (Popular votes): 1,195,562 [47.9%]
And then the intimidation and violence against MDC supporters started.
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T.C.Thow i liket wen you try to duck and dive in trying to twsit the argument by posing qtions at the same time,you are not the only person available who associate himself with the zimbabwe ppl.SO how come you didnt see lancaster agreement ?the sanctions and frozen accounts in zim?the manipulation of UN? stop kidding around asseblief....i dont remeber wen but its been long
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Dude, the sanctions are 100% legal because of what the zanu pf did to once a beautiful country. something tells me you never went to zim before.
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joyful
@ PhathuzaI am not against nationalisation infact I do support it because those minerals belongs to our country . My dream is every south african must have a share to the wealth of this country not the minority
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conflict of interest there. when have goverment ever given to the people? all they do is to take, just like they are pushing eToll down our throats ...............
be guaranteed that with nationalisation of mines, you will still own 0% of any mine - on top of that (if you work in mine) you will be either an unpaid mineworker or a previous mineworker!
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T.C.T!wena my brother you always have scary and uniformed stories available Who was violeted and intimidated?How comewe ppl never heared about that but you alone? ZIM got democracy before us
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Dude, please, go and read the zim newspapers, intimidation and violence is again in affect in zim before the elections next year, zanu pf does not want to hand over because they are enriching themselves.
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T.C.T - "Who was violeted and intimidated?How comewe ppl never heared about that but you alone?"EVERYONE heard about this, except you maybe?
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SOLUTIONSsurely u dont mean sanction of 2002 broer?im refering to sactions that wer made wen MUGABE became president thats you own problem u blv or u dnt
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!#Sinudeity#!T.C.T - "Who was violeted and intimidated?How comewe ppl never heared about that but you alone?"
EVERYONE heard about this, except you maybe?
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I don't think he has ever been to zim.
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@SOLUTIONSDude, mugabe is nothing more than a murdering, lying imbacile who with his educated mouth knows how to manipulate small people, hence he still have the odd follower, go and read the herald of zimbabwe, you are right, there is not so many comments because 85% of the nation is now unemployed and can't even afford food because of what the zanu pf has done. if you battle to find the comments, they are at the bottom of the page and when they are finished there is a button called load more comments.
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stop lying, talking about something you dont jknow therefo.
unemployment= offcourse the country was experiencing transition period , which country had stable economy under that period, guess 25000 wh.ite tobacco farmers were owning the land, after that transition, 65 000 bla.ck farmers benefited , the land was reannexed, in order to accommodate as much bla.ck as possible, 2010/11 these bla.ck farmers made $350m , followed by $570m in 2011/12 each making a profit of $170 k as an average, stop being sour losers you wh.ites , accept Mugabe kicked your a%%% , $170k is a huge income they can afford to send their kids to schools and still making living compared to what you did in Zim
Read business report , SA has since found market in Zim , what you are ranting about is nonsense, Zim is making turn around
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joyful - Its like the land debate here in South Africa. The government uses our tax billions to buy thousands of acres of land. It regularly stands in front of the media, saying people need land.But they never redistribute the land that they acquire. They lease it out, but it never remains your property, it always belongs to the government.
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@5SKIPASeveryone supporting Mugabe mst jst leave SA in peace or else ........................
u cum 4 a refuge in SA n cums voting tyms u go n vote 4 Mugabe n cum back in SA leaving de less fortunate Zimbabweans stucked in dis grave bound madala. ppl who r voting 4 mugabe r de ones at fault for the state of ZIM's economy
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well said, really well said! this includes T.C.T and Dandan. since you people worship the ground of his Royal robing-self, the corrupter, polluter, looter and opressor of Zim Mr. Robber Mugrabage - please do us the honour of depart SA and relocate to Zim!
God knows we can do with a reduction of 6 millions+ Zims! especially these trying times when jobs are scarce!
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!#Sinudeity#!are you supprised to see that?remember its the bbc that broadcast that rubbish news trying to push britain agenda cause america made it clear they will remove MUGABE and they will put MORGAN so im not shaken or conviced by the stats...VIVA COMRADE MUGABE VIVA ...you migh not realise and see the progress MUGABE made for the ZIMBABWEAN now and i dnt blame u
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@!#Sinudeity#!tell me about it! they actually "reclaim" the farms from poor groups - who were "given" land but no money & skill to be productive...............
they are good in that, buy the farms from white owners - assign it to poor black group, promise them assistance - don't deliver(as usual) on that promise, come back after a couple of years and reclaim the farm. lease it out and who knows where that money goes??????
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T.C.T - Come on dude...Whenever the ANC f***s up here in South Africa, they blame apartheid.
Whenever Bob f***s up, he blames the BBC/America/UK etc.
"im not shaken or conviced by the stats"
You mean ELECTION RESULTS?
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!#Sinudeity#!T.C.T - "Who was violeted and intimidated?How comewe ppl never heared about that but you alone?"
EVERYONE heard about this, except you maybe?
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who is everyone pls be more specific and stop beating around the bush!!!
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stop being a cheerleader and face ur own battles plss love
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T.C.T - "who is everyone pls be more specific and stop beating around the bush!!!"Everyone that follows world politics and is not ignorant?
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surely u dont mean sanction of 2002 broer?im refering to sactions that wer made wen MUGABE became president thats you own problem u blv or u dnt
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Dude, you are now showing your ignorance and just plain stupidity for trying to debate on something you have no idea about, there was no sanctions, the world wanted a fair and free election and mugabe became president. Then 2 years later he started the killing of the ndebele tribe, dude, it amazes me how little you know about your hero, sjeeez, .
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!#Sinudeity#!T.C.T - Come on dude...
Whenever the ANC f***s up here in South Africa, they blame apartheid.
Whenever Bob f***s up, he blames the BBC/America/UK etc.
"im not shaken or conviced by the stats"
You mean ELECTION RESULTS?
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but they are the creators of all evils happening in AFRICA do u blame them? every wer ppl cry about them and u wont find aby place wer ppl will cry about us
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you can come anytime and work on my magic stick and il compensate you fo job well done
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T.C.T - The time for blaming the west and colonialism is FAR gone dude... Zim got its independence in 1980, and yet Bob and you are still crying about it?Like I said, blaming the west/colonialism, is merely how African leaders, who f*** up, can shift blame away from themselves.
The funny thing is, so many Africans are so gullable, that they believe this bull$h17.
I mean, look at this article, Bob and his cronies stealing R2 BILLION from Zimbabwe, and here you are, blaming the west.
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Dandanstop lying, talking about something you dont jknow therefo.
unemployment= offcourse the country was experiencing transition period , which country had stable economy under that period, guess 25000 wh.ite tobacco farmers were owning the land, after that transition, 65 000 bla.ck farmers benefited , the land was reannexed, in order to accommodate as much bla.ck as possible, 2010/11 these bla.ck farmers made $350m , followed by $570m in 2011/12 each making a profit of $170 k as an average, stop being sour losers you wh.ites , accept Mugabe kicked your a%%% , $170k is a huge income they can afford to send their kids to schools and still making living compared to what you did in Zim
Read business report , SA has since found market in Zim , what you are ranting about is nonsense, Zim is making turn around
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Dude, lol, you must be a malema supporter as well, go and look in the herald of zimbobwe for unemployment figures, then also those farms that you talk about, it was a week after that malema spoke about it that the people had to go to courts because the farms were going to be taken by the few elite, I will quickly see if I can find it for you. So SA has a market in zim, go and read again, they just state that it is imports to SA, what they are not saying is that those goods are moving through SA for export to china in exchange for other things. hehehehehehhe. dandan, how is your few chickens and goats?
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stop looking info that will please you in the dustbins, to be smart go and buy Fin Mail and Economics mag , stop coming to me with mickey mice /gimmick stories
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@Dandansince Zim is so good - why don't you go over to their news blog pages and comment there???? what could you possible want from SA's News media blogs??????
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!#Sinudeity#!T.C.T - "who is everyone pls be more specific and stop beating around the bush!!!"
Everyone that follows world politics and is not ignorant?
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ohh i see,then you pose a wrong question to me unintensionally?those who are more knowleadgeable will keep on wondering why kids like acting as if they are grown ups!!! eish ignorant ppl sometimes!
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unfortunatly its not my fault if i pose stupid and ignorant question to you just bcause u lack more infor regarding issue and qtions i raise about ZIM stop pretending as if you know so much about ZIM.if u cant remeber sactions of 2002 thats ur problem..32yrs ZIMbabwe is under MUGABE and he is doing a good job DE
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@joyfulsince Zim is so good - why don't you go over to their news blog pages and comment there???? what could you possible want from SA's News media blogs??????
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you also stop lying to zim , zim is a best country to be, you think Zim di.ed after your colonisers, never
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Dandan - So move to Zim then, if its the land of milk and honey and tenders.Report Abuse
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!#Sinudeity#!Dandan - So move to Zim then, if its the land of milk and honey and tenders.
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Oooh yes Im networking with zims I need tobacco plot too
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Dandan - Meanwhile, Zim imports all its maize from Zambia, home of the former Zimbabwean exiled farmers.Report Abuse
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Dandanstop looking info that will please you in the dustbins, to be smart go and buy Fin Mail and Economics mag , stop coming to me with mickey mice /gimmick stories
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lolol, you mean the truth because you do not want to see it. Go and play small boy..
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T.C.Tunfortunatly its not my fault if i pose stupid and ignorant question to you just bcause u lack more infor regarding issue and qtions i raise about ZIM stop pretending as if you know so much about ZIM.if u cant remeber sactions of 2002 thats ur problem..32yrs ZIMbabwe is under MUGABE and he is doing a good job DE
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Dude, you must try to get with the debate, you said,
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surely u dont mean sanction of 2002 broer?im refering to sactions that wer made wen MUGABE became president thats you own problem u blv or u dnt
Then I gave you the reason for the sanctions and it was not when he became president. Eish, wena, wake up, get a strong coffee
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!#Sinudeity#!Dandan - Meanwhile, Zim imports all its maize from Zambia, home of the former Zimbabwean exiled farmers.
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blahblahblahblah, there is no land that suits evrything, maize crops in zim does nt suit, if it was a case mpumalanga in SA would be planting grapes and maize in CT
@SOLUTIONS, there is nothing I can learn from you if you still dont know Zim is the cheapest country for mining , telling me diamond is all the world , nt here with me, boy , if you want to be man buy Fin and Econ Mag subscribe in actual fact , therefore your brain will be quick
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TCT: "he is doing a good job DE: Oh wow, really? Please let us have a few actual, verifiable succes-stories then shall we, and the enlargement of Grace's dairy farm doesn't count....... Go on, stun me, please.he is doing a good job DE HA HA HA HAHAHAHA.
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Anyways, guys are steering away from the topic now.The point is, Bob (Hero of the African), stole $2 billion from his own country. Money could have been used to rebuild the economy. The money equals to HALF of the entire Zim governments annual budget.
Meanwhile...
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Everything in Zimbabwe belongs to bro Bob Mugabe there no such stealing.Report Abuse
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Dandan@SOLUTIONS, there is nothing I can learn from you if you still dont know Zim is the cheapest country for mining , telling me diamond is all the world , nt here with me, boy , if you want to be man buy Fin and Econ Mag subscribe in actual fact , therefore your brain will be quick
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I am sure I can teach you how to spell better and construct better sentences, I did not argue with the fact that zim is cheap to mine, I mean, look at this article, bob and his cronies is stealing billions without effort but you are to thick headed to see that. I also did not say diamonds is all over the world, please point me to that comment. Eish wena, wake up, does your 3 chickens wake you to early in the morning.
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KatakataEmaotoAditshepe - Of course, because when people chant "Nationalise", they actually mean, hand everything over to the chief :PReport Abuse
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certainly sure , teach me your colonial language, but I will teach your subject contents for people with brains thats business science , take your english and shove it
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Dandancertainly sure , teach me your colonial language, but I will teach your subject contents for people with brains thats business science , take your english and shove it
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lolololol, so you are a person who attended business science classes but battle in the real world, lololololol. Did you just just pass with 30%? Please tell me, who wrote the books on business science, you just fool yourself once again, if you want to learn business science from the colonial masters you might as well learn to use their INTERNATIONAL Language.
Hows your 3 chickens and 2 goats, is that slaughter house up yet?
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surely u dont mean sanction of 2002 broer?im refering to sactions that wer made wen MUGABE became president thats you own problem u blv or u dnt
Then I gave you the reason for the sanctions and it was not when he became president. Eish, wena, wake up, get a strong coffee
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you need that coffe more than i do chief ,what was your reson?cause u failed to answer that!! how can i debate with a person who judges ppl and calling them stupid etc?
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grabbing the land from the colonisers is a good job and no amount of words can describe that you can see it as a small thing but majority of AFRICANS dont,ask ur self why china today is so powerful cause they dont joke around with their land like we do here.
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T.C.TThis is a post about zoomer, but you fail to see some of the points in mugabe, are you for real?
how can u respect a person who undermine the constittuion of this country and the party? (lets make it zimbobwe)
how can you respect a person who changes women as if they are underwears?
how can we respect a person who is involved in criminal activities and dont want to account or proof his innocent? ----KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE, DIAMONDS,
how can we resepct a person who make babies with his friend kids??
how can we respect a person who rape rape woman?
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@SOLUTIONSaccept you dont have business brains, but thank me for giving you lessons about BRICS,West,US and how to research business environment, when my parents emphasised commerce and science your parents were preoccopied by english ascent , blahblahblahblah today you are joke
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T.C.Tyou need that coffe more than i do chief ,what was your reson?cause u failed to answer that!! how can i debate with a person who judges ppl and calling them stupid etc?
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Eish Wena, if the shoe fits, wear it, Where did I fail to answer what, please give the question again, if it is this one I will break it up for you.
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im refering to sactions that wer made wen MUGABE became president thats you own problem u blv or u dnt
Dude, you are now showing your ignorance and just plain stupidity for trying to debate on something you have no idea about, there was no sanctions, the world wanted a fair and free election and mugabe became president(not even president prime minister, i think in 1987 the prime minister was taken away and president started. Then 2 years later he started the killing off the ndebele tribe, dude, it amazes me how little you know about your hero, sjeeez, .
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T.C.T. the Chine.se acquired their land the same way the white man in Africa did. I see you now admire it.Report Abuse
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@antiepoint of correction, remember CCP came into power in 1949 after outsing Kuomantang (Racist regime, similar to apartheid regime) since then chinesse were under communist regime, get your facts in order
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T.C.T - You see what Bob did?Bob took the land from the colonizers, and the millions of pounds that the colonizers paid for the land. Look up the Lancaster agreement. UK paid R500 million per the agreement, AND paid half for the cost of targeted land according to 'Willing buyer/willing seller'. And they helped build infrastructure on the land that was earmarked.
And you know what? The average Zimbabwean didnt see a cent of that money, it all went into Bobs pocket. Your hero is a standup guy.
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Dandanaccept you dont have business brains, but thank me for giving you lessons about BRICS,West,US and how to research business environment, when my parents emphasised commerce and science your parents were preoccopied by english ascent , blahblahblahblah today you are joke
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Yes dandan, I have no business sense you are correct, my business is going but without my business sense it makes it feel great. Thanks,
lolololl, you did not give me any lessons on BRICS, lol, you know that the West is the US you always talk about, (joke only)
lol dude, one must be able to read when you do research and if this is the way you spell you obviously did not know what my parents generation was writing. lololol.
Hows the 3 chickens and the 2 goats, how far is the slaughter house for them?
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SOLUTIONSfirst u dont compare a president who is intelligent and is leading in the whole world wen coming to academical achievement if compared with other world president! especially comparing him with stnd 2 drop out indeed wen coming to womenizing ZOOMA is the most vava voom one in the world not forgeting his best buddy Mswathi...Mugabe is protecting his land and his not shying away from that Mugabe dont dance and jive 24 hrs and enjoy lot of sex not forgeting rape 700 charges that need answeres etc he dont pretend and smile with enemies he call a spade a spade something west dont like. WEDA you hate MUGABE and choose to blv wat the cnn and bbc is saying thats your problem but plss hate him knowing the trueth atleast cause i did check your mixed up information and its a shame u are stubbon u dont want to allow ur self a chance to be guided by those who no more than you
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Dandan - So whats Ch1na doing in Tibet dude? The Communist Ch1nese Party is more apartheid than anything else. They even had trade agreements with the apartheid government when the rest of the world blockaded.Report Abuse
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Dandan, go back in history properly, and get YOUR facts straight. The earth is a lot older than 100 years boy.Report Abuse
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@SOLUTIONSyou sdomo maaan domkop , you didnt know China has the biggest GDP in the world , you didnt even know what is IMF I gave you tips , reread my blogs they are very intersting
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T.C.T - Bob is protecting his land? Do you even know how much of Zimbabwe land Bob gave away to Fidel Castro?Report Abuse
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T.C.T,Go and speak to someone in the Ndebele tribe and ask them how their people was murdered one by one in gruesome ways by zanu pf, please do yourself a favour, please read this article about diamonds that is stolen, please read how mugabes people suffer and his wife and children goes on shopping sprees in Switzerland.
Please go and see how many people were jailed just for talking against mugabe, people in the streets are not even allowed to say something bad against him or they get the end of a stick.
You ten too one support the i.diot king of swaziland as well hey?
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Dandan - The US GDP is THREE TIMES greater than China's.Report Abuse
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Dandanyou sdomo maaan domkop , you didnt know China has the biggest GDP in the world
Please tell me where I contested it, thanks for the info but dude, as far as I know the US has still the biggest GDP as per 14.6$ against China's 10$, maybe this was a while ago and I do not really care about it, I just make money from both countries. I will see if I can find that link for you. I think China has the fastest growth though.
, you didnt even know what is IMF I gave you tips , reread my blogs they are very intersting
Dude really, I did not read where you even spoke about IMF, you are as interesting as your spelling, weak, uneducated and dull.
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@antiewhat is that you dont get , so fuming like this
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Dandan - So whats Ch1na doing in Tibet dude?== because they are factionalists
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SOLUTIONSthank you so much my chief for pointing out that the world wanted free and fair election DO WE agree that after COMRADE MUGABE became president things started to get out of controll? not because he was a president because BRITAIN AND USA Freezed ZIMBABWEAN accounts all over the world and ZIM could nt progress without money and the very same ppl im refering to also lodged some sanctions to ZIMBABWE and investors wer withdrawing their business out of ZIM so one sober mined person can realise that the purpose that the western desired indeed it happen they destabilised and made ZIMBABWE wat is is today,why DONT u ask yourself why chines are busy doing business with ZIM?and funny enough the very same ppl from the west are now returning burg doing business in ZIM cause they hoped their intention will work if they are not availbale in ZIM but we thank CHINES business to pick up ZIM..so fo the last time stop reading british newspaper cause they will try by all means to destroy MY LEADER and favourite president
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you and your respond are irrelevent dont have time to wast so buzzzz offf plssss..kikikiki
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selective reading wont dou any good,,,what do u understand about lancaster afreement and wat kind of contets did it have?and wat does it say about land specifically?
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Dandan....."what is it you dont get , so fuming like this'......HUH??????Report Abuse
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TCT: Enlighten us, please.Report Abuse
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@antieDandan....."what is it you dont get , so fuming like this'......HUH??????
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can we angage on intellectual debates otherthan shows off, unless you lack thereof, since I caught you from the beginings
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T.C.T, then don't talk history if you don't know history my man. You say stup.id things and then run away when you are challenged. I suppose it is one way you can tell your friends you won the argument. No scars coz you did not stand for the fight.Report Abuse
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thank you so much my chief for pointing out that the world wanted free and fair election DO WE agree that after COMRADE MUGABE became president things started to get out of controll? not because he was a president because BRITAIN AND USA Freezed ZIMBABWEAN accounts all over the world and ZIM could nt progress without money and the very same ppl im refering to also lodged some sanctions to ZIMBABWE and investors wer withdrawing their business out of ZIM so one sober mined person can realise that the purpose that the western desired indeed it happen they destabilised and made ZIMBABWE wat is is today,why DONT u ask yourself why chines are busy doing business with ZIM?and funny enough the very same ppl from the west are now returning burg doing business in ZIM cause they hoped their intention will work if they are not availbale in ZIM but we thank CHINES business to pick up ZIM..so fo the last time stop reading british newspaper cause they will try by all means to destroy MY LEADER and favourite president
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Dude, you do not get it, the sanctions was brought against him because he tried to w.ipe out an entire t.ribe, how difficult is it for you to understand this????????? He is a murderer and should have been taken to the world court and exterminated.
C.hinese is bringing business into zim yes, and their own people to do the c.heap l.abour, how is this helping the people of zimbabwe, please explain?
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Dandan, only you and T.C.T know what you are saying because it certainly is not english. Here's what I say...Chine.se stole their land 100's of years ago.Report Abuse
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T.C.T, then don't talk history if you don't know history my man. You say stup.id things and then run away when you are challenged. I suppose it is one way you can tell your friends you won the argument. No scars coz you did not stand for the fight.
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why are you nt bringing down your facts instead you are busy being so funny , get on intellectual debates , we dont want to be silly but you prove to be more silly
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!#Sinudeity#!T.C.T - Bob is protecting his land? Do you even know how much of Zimbabwe land Bob gave away to Fidel Castro?
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that is not the issue! the main issue is the condision ZIM is under and who is to blame?you cant expect ZIMBABWEANS to own 20% of land especiallif they are more than millions and colonisers own 80% cause that was the issue MUGABE was fighting for. so pls dont come with pick and point selcetive info
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dont tell me about Joshua Nkomo ppl cause the info is been manipulated to paint MUGABE to be seen as a monster im sure you know the capabilities of the west u dnt need me to teach u how cruel and brutal they are
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antieDandan, only you and T.C.T know what you are saying because it certainly is not english. Here's what I say...Chine.se stole their land 100's of years ago.
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this isnt complete statement , thats why I said you lack intellectual debates , its vacuum, to engage with other intellects remove all silly words , it might help you for future
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antieDandan, only you and T.C.T know what you are saying because it certainly is not english. Here's what I say...Chine.se stole their land 100's of years ago.
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I do not understand it, dandan is acting as if he has worlds knowledge about economics and business but he is unable to spell one of them correctly. It amazes me. Last time he bragged about his 16 mil slaughter house that is going up and today he can't even tell me how it is going with his 3 chickens and 2 goats, must off slaughtered them before the slaughter house was finished for a b day or something.
T.C.T is trying to say that mugabe is a good president for almost killing of an entire tribe and killing 1000's of people through hunger and torture but in the same time say that zooma is a bad president because he is corrupt, have kids with friends daughter and many wifes, but mugabe the murderer is ok.
Cry our beloved country.
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T.C.Tdont tell me about Joshua Nkomo ppl cause the info is been manipulated to paint MUGABE to be seen as a monster im sure you know the capabilities of the west u dnt need me to teach u how cruel and brutal they are
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Dude, that is what I am saying, stop being thick and blaming the west for things that are true, stop being a blind sheep and follow zanu pf lies without even doing research and talk to the Ndebele people themselves. Eish, for once in your life, do the right thing and get the correct information dude, it is amazing to know the truth and I am telling it to you today, not too long ago you also jumped up and down for zooma when you were told it is the wrong person, today you want him out because you did not listen. Eish, some are just followers and no sign of leadership anywhere.
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RobinXTCT: Enlighten us, please
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i will my brother cause my ppl are so lost
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Dandan, only you and T.C.T know what you are saying because it certainly is not english. Here's what I say...Chine.se stole their land 100's of years ago
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argument cant be won cause no person can validate or invalidat issues each one want to stand there ground so next time dont embarrass yourself to that level plsss..
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icc must start with bush and tony before it can start with mugabe and selective justice wont help cause we know the trueth not the western trueth that has been manipulated to protect their own intrest by the manner in wich u describe this sanctions clearly suggest u are un-infomerd regarding that
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T.C.Tcc must start with bush and tony before it can start with mugabe and selective justice wont help cause we know the trueth not the western trueth that has been manipulated to protect their own intrest by the manner in wich u describe this sanctions clearly suggest u are un-infomerd regarding that
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I am going to say this once again, don't believe the west, do not believe the zanu pf, go and find out for yourself, the problem is you must go to zimbabwe to find it out or try to get some people of the Ngebele tribe in SA and they will tell you. Get it from the horses mouth.
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Dandan, I've retyped my statement on Microsoftword and did a spell and grammar check. I then checked for verbs, nouns etc as well as punctuation, and my statement is a complete statement according to all the english checks in place. Apart from re-writing history, you are now also re-writing the English language.
T.C.T. I actually just responded to you saying you admire the way the Chin.ese hold onto their land by saying that they "stol.e" their land. It was not all theirs to begin with. I was surprised that you would admire people who "ste.al" land.
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jeeeer domkop I thought I gave you some lessons maaan about scientific research , what is that person will tell you about GDP, I give up
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SOLUTIONSthats wer me and you differ cause wena you chose to read newspapers that are from the british and neglect to listen a person speaking and expalining with his own mouth in fornt of the whole world let me tell you this BROTHER media decide for you wat you need to know and wat not to know cuse they guide your concousness in the direction they already planned that is why few of you fail to analysis issues cause most of the time you are lazy MUGABE said the tuth infront of the world and none of them challenged him based on wat he knows remember the very same western USED and trusted MUGABE even your lovely queen admired him. so dont bragg with a falsified information unlike u a hear them speaking and reasoning
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@antiestop being tsotsi, the argument is china, dont tell us about grammatical issues here , lets accept you dont know what you were talking about, shutup, we dont do engllish language here
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Dandanjeeeer domkop I thought I gave you some lessons maaan about scientific research , what is that person will tell you about GDP, I give up
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Oh my goodness, you are a s.tupid i.diot, that comment was not sent to for you, """Shakes head and puts palm to face""""""
So, where do you get the stats that China has the biggest GDP domkop?
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Solutions, I think today you found the two problems to your solutions. You say go speak to Ndebele people about how they feel, and Dandan talks GDP. You talk GDP, and Dandan talks facts being twisted. I won't even mention T.C.T. Soos ons sê.." leë blikke maak die meeste geraas."Report Abuse
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Dandan, oh sorry, now the argument is Chin.a again. YOU were the one who started talking grammar, but okay, I'll humour you this one more time. What is it you want to know about Chin.a my dear?Report Abuse
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LOLI see the laatjies are going around in circles in the fishbowl again. Oh the mamparadom of being so young and stupid.
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thats wer me and you differ cause wena you chose to read newspapers that are from the british and neglect to listen a person speaking and expalining with his own mouth in fornt of the whole world let
Dont be a fokken dom D, I mos say the whole time you must go and talk to the people who it happened too, it is just as well I start to say with a lot of white people that there was never such a thing as apartheid and the rest of the world believes us because they do not want to come and talk to s.tupid tct i.diot. FFS man, read what I say, I also don't just read the newspapers, I also talk to people, have you even been to zimbabwe, you have not answered this once so I expect you have not gone there once. FFS your head is all around mugabe, is it up is a.ss.
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antieSolutions, I think today you found the two problems to your solutions. You say go speak to Ndebele people about how they feel, and Dandan talks GDP. You talk GDP, and Dandan talks facts being twisted. I won't even mention T.C.T. Soos ons sê.." leë blikke maak die meeste geraas."
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LOLOLOL, I have never seen such blatant stupidity or ignorance, in Afrikaans there is a word for it, dom astrant.
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SOLUTIONSfor the LAST TIME the wars in AFRICA are the same lets agree!the wars are created by greed from the west lets agree! so WHAT is different with ZIMBABWE cause all u will hear its genocide ,human rights blah blh etc who caused this trouble in AFRICA who benefit from AFRICA minerals? BIN LADEN,SADDAM HUSSAIN,GADDAFI are killed because they wer protecting their resources and cases from their side are the same created by the WEST we will be told this ppl are abusing their ppl etc sam as we hear about MUGABE the very same ppl are saying MUGABE is abusing his ppl and we both know that not trueth it is you who need to go and recheck the info u are reading but il advice you to listen to those who speak and comment
antie
you i dont undersand you cause you are to much clever for me i said china owns its land and dont compromise wen coming to that even the ppl who want to do business ther knows that
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MommaC
antie:) throw some Omo in - makes shaking it more fun
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antie
T.C.T. sure Chin.a owns its land now, just like white farmers here own their land now. People who want to do business here knows that too. Fact remains, it wasn't theirs to begin with, so I still don't understand why you admire the Chine.se for holding on to their land, unless,of course, you are saying that you admire and support the white farmers here too..Report Abuse
antie
MommaC, wath this space for the foam :)Report Abuse
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T.C.Tfor the LAST TIME the wars in AFRICA are the same lets agree!the wars are created by greed from the west lets agree!
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So mugabe killing millions who is against him in zimbabwe is the west's fault, DOMMER AS GROND comes to mind.
FRICA minerals? BIN LADEN,SADDAM HUSSAIN,GADDAFI are killed because they wer protecting their resources and cases from their side are the same created by the WEST we will be told this ppl are abusing their ppl etc sam as we hear about MUGABE the very same ppl are saying MUGABE is abusing his ppl and we both know that not trueth it is you who need to go and recheck the info u are reading but il advice you to listen to those who speak and comment
Oh my goodness, t.c.t, I am starting to think you are a troll because I have never met someone as s.tupid, I am sorry to say this in this way but it is true. I am just glad that most of zimbabwe disagree with you because you are trying to save their country with an murderer and criminal and yet you have not been there once to see the people suffering.
Your outlook is of that of countries that is falling and have hit the ground hard, you will notice zim has not hit rock bottom yet, it is still going down. More people are going to die in the next few months.
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T.C.Tantie
you i dont undersand you cause you are to much clever for me
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i nearly p!ssed myself when I read this.
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T.C.T
SOLUTIONSdont compare information you received from your 2 farmers and assume that is valid info doesnt mean if u befriend your workers now you know so much about ZIM lisen to my leader MUGABE he was interviewed in CNN and he answered those silly news perfectly and your lovely interviewer was left exposed cause nobody can argue with the facts MUGABE is a good leader admired by majority of AFRICAN ppl but disliked by few but it wont be fo long watcg the space..
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T.C.T
antiel.efa ke sa u.tlwa A.FRIKAANS go s.iame but assume wat ever u said is good m.aaan
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antie
you i dont undersand you cause you are to much clever for me
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i nearly p!ssed myself when I read this
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thats how we dismiss educated ppl!!!
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T.C.Tdont compare information you received from your 2 farmers and assume that is valid info doesnt mean if u befriend your workers now you know so much about ZIM lisen to my leader MUGABE he was interviewed in CNN and he answered those silly news perfectly and your lovely interviewer was left exposed cause nobody can argue with the facts MUGABE is a good leader admired by majority of AFRICAN ppl but disliked by few but it wont be fo long watcg the space..
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Dude, I use to go to zim twice a year, I met a lot of people and made friends with people at camps and lodges and hotels, you have not even been there now you want to believe a criminal on BBC who was taken out by the reporter so that he started to stutter. Admired no, he has put fear into his people.
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antie
T.C.T. I always talk good to you and about you, because I like you. You can debate. It's just when Dandan feels he must speak on your behalf that I get p!ssed off. I really see you as a man who can speak for himself.Report Abuse
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T.C.Tthats how we dismiss educated ppl!!!
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You should not dismiss them, you should try to learn from them, open the ears wide and take in what they say, don't always believe it immediately but go and do research. Don't let corrupt, murderer, torturing people get you the first time, you need to know the truth.
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!#Sinudeity#!
T.C.T - And now the Zimbo's own all the land...And yet they are unemployed, starving or residing on foreign countries.
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antie
Solutions, if they dismiss educated people, in whatever way, and they do not dismiss Uncle Bob, then that means Uncle Bob is not educated? Or does it mean he is not a people?Report Abuse
!#Sinudeity#!
T.C.T - Let me ask you this...If your country is being boycotted by the US and Europe...
Your economy is struggling...
But you can sell diamonds...
What do you do?
a) Use the $2 billion made from diamond sales to boost the economy
b) Pocket the money for yourself
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Lord-Have-Mercy
RobinXTCT. If he's "your leader" then why not head off to Zim to suffer under your precious tyrant with the rest of the Zimbabweans.
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does the internet only work outside Zimbabwe?
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16-12-1838
In all honesty, it is only due to people like T.C.T & Dandan that such an insane mafiosi like mugabe can still be the president of a country like Zimbobwe...and for such a long time too! Gents, your logic is beyond belief and pure science fiction! Incredible stuff, what planet are you guys from????I thought that such numbskulls were a minority or just trolls but after giving it a bit more thought....and looking at the mess that pervades throughout Southern Africa, it is obvious that these guys are the majority.
With such outstanding odds in their favour, it must be so damn easy for people like uncle bob, Eduardo dos Santos, Joseph Kabila and now our very own aspirational two-headed demigod - the almighty Showera to take full advantage of the masses.
What is even more scary, when looking at the extraordinarily high levels of education found there throughout the late 80's and all of the 90's, is that Zim can find itself in such a position today? Seriously, what hope do we then have with our failed education system and the anc insistence on following the ZANU-PF blue print?
Are we to continue living our lives in poverty and misery, amongst an ever increasing demographic of ignorant, brainwashed masochists like T.C.T & Dandan? Time for change, free our minds people...it is almost too late!
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RobinX
Lord-Have-Mercy: "does the internet only work outside Zimbabwe?"?????? What kind of dof question is that? What is your point, if indeed you have one?Report Abuse
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