Thu Jun 20 14:43:56 SAST 2013

Lonmin offers strikers a bonus to go back to work

Sep 18, 2012 | Sapa, Reuters, editing Sowetan LIVE | 69 comments

And scraps bosses' share options - While Malema makes 'cop death threat' claims

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Thu Jun 20 14:43:57 SAST 2013 ::
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Sep 18, 2012

DA-DBN-GUY

Wow. I heard on the radio yesterday that Malema offered to come and give a speech. Most of the strike leaders had no idea he was coming while others said that he wanted to come and give a speech. Wanting to give a speech is not the same as being invited. I see Fat Boy still wears an anc shirt. wishful thinking and false advertising
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Sep 18, 2012

RobinH

Shame, poor Baby. Did they take away your lolly?
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Sep 18, 2012

THEmadame2B-BBEE

they should not take this bonus, i work for that amount in a day, please if you are a miner of Marikana on this site, please tell ur comrades they should not take that money, they must still go for the R12 500, please
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Sep 18, 2012

Papage

So Church Leaders are now doing Cosatu/Num's jobs and yet members contribute to Cosatu/Num.

The residential ares of the mine workers should be improved as well, running water and better roads, proper housing, not shacks.


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Sep 18, 2012

Mbeva

Bribing is a daily business in RSA.
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Sep 18, 2012

Bosepa2

THEmadame2B-BBEE

you work for that amount on sowetan - it is non of blogger's biz? nxaaa wa bhora maaan
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Sep 18, 2012

Lehido

@THEmadame2B-BBEE - How's that any of our business?
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Sep 18, 2012

Lehido

Why didnt they shoot his fat bum?

Some miners say they didnt even know he was coming, some say he was not invited, HE OFFERED...

Talk about FAT DESPERATION
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Sep 18, 2012

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

No that's sh*t people want long term bonus which is R12500 Num and Lonmin superiors must be arrested for bribery.
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Sep 18, 2012

DA-DBN-GUY

THEmadame2B-BBEE
they should not take this bonus, i work for that amount in a day, please if you are a miner of Marikana on this site, please tell ur comrades they should not take that money, they must still go for the R12 500, please


Yes please dont take the bonu cos then you will get fired, kicked out of your mining house, lose all the other benefits you have and then it opens the job market for other unemployed people who want to work.
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Sep 18, 2012

candilious

Hehehehheheh just looking at your face Malema that egg must be nasty neh! you got what you been spewing all this time tsek.................im gonna enjoy my braai day



@Robin- hi hy lyk skoons asof hul hom laaste 5c gevat dit
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Sep 18, 2012

MorenaWaPolelo

They should have allowed you to incite miners so that you can be arrested!!!!
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Sep 18, 2012

Phunyukabemphethe

Lehido
Why didnt they shoot his fat bum?

Some miners say they didnt even know he was coming, some say he was not invited, HE OFFERED...

Talk about FAT DESPERATION

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If you can listen to the full version of Juluis Malema Press Conference , i think you will be telling different story




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Sep 18, 2012

Tango

Malema is bitter
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Sep 18, 2012

RobinH

Candi: Het jy hom op die nuus gesien? Shame, sy wangetjies was sulke bolletjies amper asof hy twee of drie koesisters in het.

Phunyuka...: All my life I have been waiting for the chance to bore myself to death at his press conference. No thanks.
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Sep 18, 2012

candilious

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
No that's sh*t people want long term bonus which is R12500 Num and Lonmin superiors must be arrested for bribery.
_______________________Good day Sorry to say told you so..............lol

Lehido
Why didnt they shoot his fat bum?

Some miners say they didnt even know he was coming, some say he was not invited, HE OFFERED...

Talk about FAT DESPERATION
_____________________________He has his foot in that vile mouth of his now........wonder what he going to do now
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Sep 18, 2012

candilious

@Robin ek het my amper nat gep*s asof mens hom laaste rand verloor dit ......Kodak moment priceless
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Sep 18, 2012

LeparaThePresident

@THEmadame2B-BBEE
they should not take this bonus, i work for that amount in a day, please if you are a miner of Marikana on this site, please tell ur comrades they should not take that money, they must still go for the R12 500, please
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Do you have an Office Madam?
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Sep 18, 2012

Papage

South Africans are hurting and angry at each other, it is all about power, we are a power hungry human beings, the Mine Issue should have been solved long before loss of lives, but because we dont care about those who are not close to us, this happened, therafter we all want to be seen as assisting the miners, we want to be heros, instead of letting the two Unions sort their differences and approach the mine management in a civil way. We are so thirsty for power and yet we know nothing about Leadership.
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Sep 18, 2012

Phunyukabemphethe

@RobinH

I think it is good to know what is happening around us in general

Check on news24 Malema : Cops threatened to k..... me. News worthy


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Sep 18, 2012

LeparaThePresident

@DA-DBN-GUY

I guess you misleading the miners supporters here on the blogg, and if you management you you aught to know that in negotiations everything is written black and whi te when a consensus is arrived at. Please we do not want another neighbour of mine from Limpopo to mislead this people.
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Sep 18, 2012

candilious

Phunyukabemphethe- If anyone will believe those words then i am speechless as if you watch closely nobody made threaths accept for him and he did it again now on radio
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Sep 18, 2012

RobinH

Phunyuka: Far be it from me of all people to deride being informed. However, I don't really think fat boy slim has much to say that I would find of any use at all. And I really would not like to soil his pumpkin suede shoes and purple suit by being sick all over them. tyhat would be a shame. Such fine tailoring and excellent taste.
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Sep 18, 2012

Phathuza

“Jacob Zuma is a liability to South Africa and the ANC

Like all dictators, he only concentrates on his village Nkandla.”

“It’s not about a person who sings beautifully and dances nicely.

Spot on I agree with malema on this one Zuma is using state resourse to fight his politically battles
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Sep 18, 2012

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

@candilious

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
No that's sh*t people want long term bonus which is R12500 Num and Lonmin superiors must be arrested for bribery.
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Good day Sorry to say told you so..............lol
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Day Candy,yes they're bribing poor workers.


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Sep 18, 2012

RobinH

Candi: EXACTLY. He is so quick to dash out really serious threats, but if the spolit brat doesn't get his way, then he sulks like a baby. Which he is. One dangerous fat baby.
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Sep 18, 2012

candilious

@Robin......lol i cannot stop its like i play stop rewind better days to come GOOD always prevails over EVIL .......................FACT
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Sep 18, 2012

RobinH

Phathuza: Although what he says about Zuma is probably true, that does in no way make him a better option.
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Sep 18, 2012

LeparaThePresident

@Phunyukabemphethe
I think it is good to know what is happening around us in general

Check on news24 Malema : Cops threatened to k..... me. News worthy
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Tha is nothing my brother, i heard that last nite on the news, i asked myself whether it was cops who said that, i couldn't. But alas, this morning the pretoria news reported that one of Malema entourage said he heard a cop saying isolate them and shoot. That was bull sh iiit, it was a micky strategy that seeked to neutralises and propagate the propaganda of police (sic) to eliminate permanantely Malema. It did not wash at all, so all at Sandton he is as expected humiliating (sic)double head JZ.

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Sep 18, 2012

Papage

No one will arrest Malema, The Country will burn, let them try that. he is speaking the truth and ANC dont want the Truth, Zuma will die before Malema, watch the space, he will be shot
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Sep 18, 2012

candilious

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@candilious

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
No that's sh*t people want long term bonus which is R12500 Num and Lonmin superiors must be arrested for bribery.
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Good day Sorry to say told you so..............lol
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Day Candy,yes they're bribing poor workers.
_______________________________________Take it as you wish but the dust will settle and fatboy has no rope to cling on is whole he dug for himself is ready and waiting ..............just have to say it Told you so .............

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Sep 18, 2012

RobinH

Ja ja Papage> How brown is your nose right now?
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Sep 18, 2012

ktzo

Poor ANC and Its alliance too scared to get involved had to bribe the church to do the dirty work. Shame on the church, they are not human resources specialists they are suppose to only preach peace.
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Sep 18, 2012

candilious

Papage-well you also said Zuma wont go for a 2nd term and he about to slide is way into it .............dont count your chickens b4 their hacth .....Juju going down


And believe me have i been patient .....................lol
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Sep 18, 2012

Nongoloz_omnyama

The purple dinosaur won't just give up?....
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Sep 18, 2012

Phathuza

RobinH

I am not saying he is a better option because he is getting the taste of his own medicine

But looking at the bright side we can use him to open other peoples eyes , They can see“Jacob Zuma is a liability to South Africa and the ANC , What I am trying to say here Both of them must go down

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Sep 18, 2012

RobinH

Phathuza: Well then, we are 100% in agreement.
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Sep 18, 2012

LeparaThePresident

Personally i think the Lonmin Management is politely extending the olive branch to miners. First their strke is illegal, and they have retorted to ambush non striking miners and it has been far too long the strike .

So, though the R1500 is nuthing, i guess is better than nothing. I know they are not going to get their wau of R12500, never in a blue sky. COSATU , SADTU,NEHAWU<NUM<NUMSA,SATAWU,SAMU , etc unions had never got a douuble figure increase they must just forget it. I think the right solution is for them to negotiate a reasonable salary of +/- R 5500 to R 6200 , and sign an agreement that says, Lonmin will in future give every miner a performance bonus of R1500 every six months, depending on the profit gained by the mine in that interval period.
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Sep 18, 2012

Bosepa2

@LeparaThePresident

I think the right solution is for them to negotiate a reasonable salary of +/- R 5500 to R 6200 ,

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So you call this reasonable wena bare o Lepara what-what ?
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Sep 18, 2012

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

candilious
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@candilious

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
No that's sh*t people want long term bonus which is R12500 Num and Lonmin superiors must be arrested for bribery.
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Good day Sorry to say told you so..............lol
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Day Candy,yes they're bribing poor workers.
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Take it as you wish but the dust will settle and fatboy has no rope to cling on is whole he dug for himself is ready and waiting ..............just have to say it Told you so .............
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Jaa neh u've told me but such doesnt mean was the end man it was just a curve since life has many.


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Sep 18, 2012

ModiseP

This is the day light bribery and it shows you they failed to solve workers problems.Workers need R12500 and offer is 21%.R12500 diferences R4000 is R8500.00 which means the lonmin is offering R850 instead of R8,500.There is wage problems accross the country and question why?South Africa doesn't promote its current employees and it doesn't release pensioners.To solve the problems here is an advice.South Africa must promote its employees each and every five years.Example, admin officer has got five open notches which means is gonna get an encrease of annual salary which is notch plus general increament accross the board.Do you think employees can strike getting double increament?South Africa need skill employers.You release employees with highest salary and employ with lowest salary.The country benefit out of this wheel.Today the baboon keep on saying,we don't have as if you are running a spaza shop.
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Sep 18, 2012

LeparaThePresident

@Bosepa2
@LeparaThePresident

I think the right solution is for them to negotiate a reasonable salary of +/- R 5500 to R 6200 ,

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So you call this reasonable wena bare o Lepara what-what ?
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I realized you are myopic, if you think about that stupid R12500, and say it is way to go then you what what se voet is not clearly thinking. There are Geologist, Engineers at Marikana, if they decide to stage their own strike whi is going to mark which rocks to drill at what angle and how far? Who is going to asses the ore what percentage of platinum is expect from it. ? Who is going to refine the ore?. Wena you just plain arrogant and myopic. R12500 is not feasible in every if not all proababilities.And i expect a debate to views not attacking my personalilty.
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Sep 18, 2012

sh!tFaceSamsung

I saw a poster saying the spear is coming to alexandra : am waiting u with a poster double head : i bet zooma is going down in mangaung : # f@ckn angry #
forward with my president JUJU forward
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Sep 18, 2012

MadyelaHenhla

Unfortunately there is nothing much that we can do to try and help a cde who is having a personal vendetta against any Leader in the ANC...When u done with your squables u will let us know...U have taken us for a ride and made us believe that former president Mbeki was the worse president ever and we believed u. Contrary to what you have said in 2009, today the very same person is the best leader ANC has ever produced. A leader is a leader if an only if he is on your side..dude we heard enough of u labelling our elders with all sorts of names..If u cant stand the heat, get the f.uck out of the kitchen..
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Sep 18, 2012

Sugaar

R1500 bonus ,it means sars is going to deduct R800 and take home it will be R700.It won't make a different.
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Sep 18, 2012

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

"After weeks of criticism, Zuma’s government said on Friday it would clamp down on “illegal gatherings” and police seized weapons from striking miners over the weekend. Some investors fear this will just anger the strikers further"
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Pure sh*t there's no illegal gatherings in SA since the main reason of all these gatherings is known,this is indirect intervention of so called ANC scrooks calling themselves leaders.
The investors can go to hell we cannt let our people to be slaves and get nothing out of hardwork they do in mines,to hell with investors 4tsek!


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Sep 18, 2012

Bosepa2

LeparaThePresident
@Bosepa2
@LeparaThePresident

I think the right solution is for them to negotiate a reasonable salary of +/- R 5500 to R 6200 ,

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So you call this reasonable wena bare o Lepara what-what ?
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I realized you are myopic, if you think about that stupid R12500, and say it is way to go then you what what se voet is not clearly thinking. There are Geologist, Engineers at Marikana, if they decide to stage their own strike whi is going to mark which rocks to drill at what angle and how far? Who is going to asses the ore what percentage of platinum is expect from it. ? Who is going to refine the ore?. Wena you just plain arrogant and myopic. R12500 is not feasible in every if not all proababilities.And i expect a debate to views not attacking my personalilty.
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you see this is what i dn't get - i just ask you a simple question . Now you going up,down,left,right,east,west ?
i just need you to say yes it is or no it's not ......(i did a mistake) finish and klaar
shetse o bolela ka di attacking personality tse ke sa tsebeng gore di tswa kae,,,,
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Sep 18, 2012

LeparaThePresident

@Bosepa2,
What is your reasonable pay rise for these miners?
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Sep 18, 2012

Cl!ck-

Some people need to re-break their v!rginity, with a Polar Bear.. Nx!!

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Sep 18, 2012

Bosepa2

LeparaThePresident

Eish - i want you to sapot your statement by saying YES/NO, then i will talk to you
for havean sake i asked you a question....

i'm asking you again

@LeparaThePresident

I think the right solution is for them to negotiate a reasonable salary of +/- R 5500 to R 6200 ,

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So you call this reasonable wena bare o Lepara what-what ?

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Sep 18, 2012

Bosepa2

Cl!ck-

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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Sep 18, 2012

babyfats

kuphela into oyaziyo wena umanyobana nje Cha........
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Sep 18, 2012

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

People who jeopardize this country's economy are ANC gov and their right hand mines shareholder not these poor workers instead of giving people what they deserve they choose to run away by withdrawing their share because they wont eat nicer since their slaves what better and decent salaries,bloody scumbags.
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Sep 18, 2012

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

We're now wondering what's happened to the people of RSA shall share.
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Sep 18, 2012

SVR

I love how Malema likes to say "US" and "WE" he must think he is royalty.
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Sep 18, 2012

Bosepa2

I asked a question and this “Lempara” ran the Comrades marathon…
Not sure if he still thinking or re-thinking about what he just said? Nxaaa I dn’t have time for this K@k,,,,

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Sep 18, 2012

LeparaThePresident

@Bosepa2
I asked a question and this “Lempara” ran the Comrades marathon…
Not sure if he still thinking or re-thinking about what he just said? Nxaaa I dn’t have time for this K@k,,,,
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Wa tseba ke wena Bosepa, nna i am not shaken by yoour stupidity, sometyme ppl think go rogana is cool. If you have a shredd of thinking abilities you wouldn't stoop this low, but hey i read your comments , looks like these low is ua trait. And guess what, it does not bother me at all.

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Sep 18, 2012

Bosepa2

LeparaThePresident

to ppl like you it's all about insults and what so ever and on the other hand you can't asnwer 1 simple question..
Are you still saying that it is reasonable for those miners to earn a salary of +/- R 5500 to R 6200 ? Agg maaan
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Sep 18, 2012

LBS

I was told today that a certain politician is a labour broker and getting the same amount the workers are demanding.
It is this politician who is allegedly paying the lower wages!
What do you think of this bit of information?

Between hearing that some politicians are mine owners/share holders and now this, can anyone believe a word of what we are told about how much 'they' (ANC so-called elite) care for the poor/downtrodden/miners?!
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Sep 18, 2012

Bosepa2

@Sugaar
R1500 bonus ,it means sars is going to deduct R800 and take home it will be R700.It won't make a different.
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100% correct (It won't make a different)



@LeparaThePresident

I think the right solution is for them to negotiate a reasonable salary of +/- R 5500 to R 6200 , and sign an agreement that says, Lonmin will in future give every miner a performance bonus of R1500 every six months, depending on the profit gained by the mine in that interval period.
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You see this is a pure nonsense .................
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Sep 18, 2012

Boogie1985

HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE EMPLYED AT MARIKANA? HAS ANY ONE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THE FINANCIALS OF THE COMPANY FOR THE PREVIOUS YEARS? WILL IT MAKE BUSINESS SENSE TO PAY THE WORKERS THAT MUCH? THOSE ARE A FEW QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ASKING OURSELVES BEFORE MAKING CRITICAL COMMENTS AGAINST THE MINE MANAGEMENT. SINCE I DO NOT KNOW THE LATTER I BELIEVE THE LEAST THE MINE CAN DO IS PROVIDE PROPER HOUSING FOR ITS EMPLOYEES AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEIR CHILDREN TO FURTHER THEIR STUDIES.
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Sep 18, 2012

ARealist

This whole situation is a mess. I fully understand miners needing a living wage. So do most of us. But on the otherhand, it might lead to retrenchments in the sector to meet the salary demand. So now what? Also, although their demands are justifiable to them (the miners), we understand that, but what about the economic impact on the country. Do they realise their actions can cost millions of job losses elsewhere in the country due to the billionsof rands lost in the strike.
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Sep 18, 2012

ARealist

@boogie1985 - yes agreed. Everyone is acting out of emotion. Can the mines afford such a large increase and will retrenchment happen to them as a result. I agree. Decent housing and help with famililes in the area can help also improve things. But, my boss does not give a damn about my kids, home or family and if I dont like it, work somewhere else. Not nice, but that is reality.
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Sep 18, 2012

Falar

DA-DBN-GUY
THEmadame2B-BBEE
they should not take this bonus, i work for that amount in a day, please if you are a miner of Marikana on this site, please tell ur comrades they should not take that money, they must still go for the R12 500, please


Yes please dont take the bonu cos then you will get fired, kicked out of your mining house, lose all the other benefits you have and then it opens the job market for other unemployed people who want to work.
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i just dont understand y everytime wen ppl r striking they r always being threatened with loosing their jobs if they continue to strike. hw else r this poor miners goin to b heard, and now they r being manipulated by being offered R1500. wat an insult
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Sep 18, 2012

Boogie1985

The reality is if those miners are to be given R12,500 a month, the company will end up retrenching most of the drillers and those left behind will have to take on too much work of which we will also cry foul over again. It is a chain reaction, yes people are being ripped off but surely there should be a solution that will atleast benefit everyone
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Sep 18, 2012

Falar

its funny how most Zuma supporters assume dat Malema does not have a lot of supporters within the ANC as well as outside. funny enough thats wat the then Mbeki supporters assumed about Zuma before polokwane. And the media is not the right place to see wu actually has more supporters becoz de media has agendas of its own.

mangaung shall reviel all, i cant wait
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Sep 18, 2012

Falar

Phathuza
RobinH

I am not saying he is a better option because he is getting the taste of his own medicine

But looking at the bright side we can use him to open other peoples eyes , They can see“Jacob Zuma is a liability to South Africa and the ANC , What I am trying to say here Both of them must go down
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yeh ryt so dat mbeki can cum back. i can see u r still bitter abt dat


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Sep 18, 2012

Boogie1985

@ Sugaar, consult ypur tax hand book before making such stupid comment, how can sars deduct R800 tax from R1500. Stupid is not a better word to describe you papa
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Sep 18, 2012

Djembe

Malema needs help, you don't go around celebrating pain for your gain. The miners suffered extremely and JM is busy trying to promote himself at the miners expense. Malema have mercy these people lost their loved ones and December is approaching and these families will be hungry and you'll be braaing in Limpompo or Mozambique while the miners go to bed hungry. Have mercy and stay away from the miners. Why did you wait so long to act on the soldiers case? You are just an opportunist. Go to he.....ll boy instead of messing up other peoples lives.
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