There we go again to exploitation of our land and minirals by multi-nationals. The government and cabinet should go FREK somewhere else, not in Mzansi. Report Abuse
Our govt is a b1tch to multi nationals. Report Abuse
Sep 7, 2012
warry
Did they finally pay some dollars? Wow we will have a tracking deal commission of inquiry in five years time. I like this. Phambili comrades. Report Abuse
Sep 7, 2012
16-12-1838
“When (the results of the study) ... came back, they recommended that it was clearly safe for us to have that programme of exploration of shale gas,” Chabane told reporters.
Should read... "When we (the greedy anc ba$tard$)... realised how much money we could make from back-handers and bribes, it became clearly advantageous for our own personal fortunes to have that programme of EXPLOITATION through shale gas" Chabane thought, while telling reporters. Report Abuse
Sep 7, 2012
LOA
All this at what cost to the environment? Irreparable damage for unsustainable energy. Take it all the way to the ConCourt! Rather build a solar power station there..... Send out tenda's for that! Report Abuse
Sep 7, 2012
RobinH
WTF!!!!???? Who was bribed!!! CheeseBoy... I couldn't agree more. Backsides in the air folks, we are about to be royally f*cked yet again. Report Abuse
Sep 7, 2012
manu.menne
CAN YOU ALL BE POSITIVE FOR A CHANGE. NEGATIVE NEGATIVE. YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT THE PETROL PRICE. IN COUNTRIES WITH OIL RICHES, THEY PAY R2 A LITRE AND WHEN THE GOVERNMENT TRIES TO SAVE YOU R10 YOU STILL CALL THEM STUPID ON BEHALF OF 10 FARMERS Report Abuse
@Sowetan, What is "Shale" now, or are you trying to say Shell? Just asking Report Abuse
Sep 7, 2012
manu.menne
There are hundreds of comments on Zuma's apartheid comments, I wanna see how many comments we will get on this story. Honourable sowetan cabinet ministers Report Abuse
Sep 7, 2012
MommaC
manu.menne
STOP SHOUTING - it is rude.
Look for a documentary called Gasland then tell us that this is a good idea.
Look for the information about what Shell has done to the Niger Delta then tell us that this is a good idea
The Karoo has one of the most delicate ecosystems in the country, it also has the least water. Now we are looking at destroying both the little underground water that they have and the entire ecosystem. Are you sure that is the legacy you want to hand on to the next generation? Report Abuse
manu.menne - You actually believe that fracking is going to make our petrol cheaper? It will just mean that the top dawgs can loot more out of the taxes. Report Abuse
Sep 7, 2012
RobinH
Manu,menne: SO what is there to be positive about in this messocracy? Please tell, as we would dearly love to be disabused of our cynicism. Report Abuse
Sep 7, 2012
manu.menne
@robinh. Lots of fuel products at a very low costs. Only if our government did not mess the contracts with shell. 10% towards Shell and the rest to Rsa. Robinh, you are Arabic, you should be in a position to tell us better Report Abuse
Sep 7, 2012
MommaC
manu.menne
Thank you dear, much appreciated.
Now I really do advise you to look at that documentary. It is very scary.
We have Sasol - don't make a damn worth of difference to the petrol price though. Report Abuse
Sep 7, 2012
manu.menne
@mommas. Your car is all ready causing a lot of damage to the environment. Report Abuse
Sep 7, 2012
MommaC
manu.menne
Yes, and if we had a decent public transport, I'd do less damage.
The problem is that this is HUGE damage. Water taps that can be set on fire, cattle dying, humans becoming incredibly ill, higher possibility of earthquake ..... really nasty stuff Report Abuse
Sep 7, 2012
manu.menne
I am excited about the decision. I remember Msg Shabangu's speech to the cabinet about fracking. She simply expressed it by saying "it's a God given gift" for south Africans Report Abuse
Sep 7, 2012
manu.menne
@mommac. How about ppl in rural areas who need paraffin? Forget about them because you will say they must have electricity. How about my electronic gas stove, how about my caravan that needs gas? Report Abuse
Sep 7, 2012
MommaC
manu.menne
Do you really think the price of gas will come down?
Sasol doesn't make the price of petrol come down. Report Abuse
Sep 7, 2012
manu.menne
This is where our government prove nationalisation Report Abuse
Sep 7, 2012
manu.menne
By the sound of it they gave the major share to shell Report Abuse
Sep 7, 2012
RobinH
Manu: Firstly, How on earth you get to think I am Arabic is beyond me. I am from an Afrikaans and English background. Besides that. it is extremely naive to think that this would lead to cheaper fuel. And with respect, what you say about MommaC applies to all cars, yours included. That, however is irrelevant, as it goes about minimising, not eliminating. Report Abuse
Sep 7, 2012
manu.menne
@robinh. Do you want to tell me that your house does not produce garbage? A garbageless house. Energy efficient? Everything we touch produces residue Report Abuse
Sep 7, 2012
Bizzabo
RobinH
Manu: Firstly, How on earth you get to think I am Arabic is beyond me. I am from an Afrikaans and English background.
Go watch / google a documentary called "Gasland", it's al about how the big business are setting up this frakking thing in america and how it poisons the land and the people/animals living on it.
People can set fire to the water comming out of their taps!
Manu: So what! Because all homes cause emissions it is fine to wreck a fragile ecosystem? You ascribe to a very strange logic system, Sir. Very strange. BUT, as you do seem to want to talk irrelevance, have you paused to consider that some people actually sort their garbage and recycle what can be recycled, thereby reducing the garbage output. Humans cause refuse. We all know that. But to damage the environment excessively and unnecessarily certainly does not strike one as all that wise. Even for us Arabic people, lol. Report Abuse
Sep 7, 2012
manu.menne
We are talking energy needs of south Africa. We are not talking me and you and juju and Zuma. All for south Africans Report Abuse
Sep 7, 2012
manu.menne
Yes we will contaminate to some extend, we need to control it Report Abuse
Sep 7, 2012
manu.menne
Mining companies are already contaminating Report Abuse
Sep 7, 2012
manu.menne
Banking is already contaminating. Unsecured loans Report Abuse
Sep 7, 2012
RobinH
Ag manu, I give up. This is not a discussion. It is simply you expounding your view and refusing to reason with anyone. So there. You may have your flawed view. It's all yours. Report Abuse
Sep 7, 2012
manu.menne
@robinh. Goodluck on your ministerial duties @sowetan. I AM so excited about our government's decision. Good one for us. Lots of energy. You may go on and bash on Zuma. He will not be around near future. Maybe if juju wants attention, he should go and ask about who is the major shareholder. We are talking billions here Report Abuse
Sep 7, 2012
RobinH
Manu: WHAT? What's your problem? Enjoy your energy. Me, I'll enjoy my weekend and try to use as little of resources as possible. Jeez, there are some seriously crazy people on this site. Report Abuse
Sep 7, 2012
MommaC
I am so glad that I won't be around to see Mau.menne's future - unfortunately, my kids will :( Report Abuse
Sep 7, 2012
RobinH
MommaC: If one followed his lead, no-one will see a future. Report Abuse
Sep 7, 2012
manu.menne
Ejo. Too many personalities but same character. Amazing! It's called multitasking Report Abuse
Sep 7, 2012
MommaC
RobinH
Sins of the father?
What are we leaving as our legacy? Report Abuse
Sep 8, 2012
bytheway1
This comes at an interesting time. Wonder how much they get paid under the table for this... surely they (ANC) need funds for electoral expenses and wifes.... jets.... 4X4's.... etc. Report Abuse
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Nincompoop
There we go again to exploitation of our land and minirals by multi-nationals. The government and cabinet should go FREK somewhere else, not in Mzansi.Report Abuse
MommaC
Stupidest fracking idea EVER.Report Abuse
CheeseBoy
Our govt is a b1tch to multi nationals.Report Abuse
warry
Did they finally pay some dollars? Wow we will have a tracking deal commission of inquiry in five years time. I like this. Phambili comrades.Report Abuse
16-12-1838
“When (the results of the study) ... came back, they recommended that it was clearly safe for us to have that programme of exploration of shale gas,” Chabane told reporters.Should read... "When we (the greedy anc ba$tard$)... realised how much money we could make from back-handers and bribes, it became clearly advantageous for our own personal fortunes to have that programme of EXPLOITATION through shale gas" Chabane thought, while telling reporters.
Report Abuse
LOA
All this at what cost to the environment? Irreparable damage for unsustainable energy. Take it all the way to the ConCourt! Rather build a solar power station there..... Send out tenda's for that!Report Abuse
RobinH
WTF!!!!???? Who was bribed!!! CheeseBoy... I couldn't agree more. Backsides in the air folks, we are about to be royally f*cked yet again.Report Abuse
manu.menne
CAN YOU ALL BE POSITIVE FOR A CHANGE. NEGATIVE NEGATIVE. YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT THE PETROL PRICE. IN COUNTRIES WITH OIL RICHES, THEY PAY R2 A LITRE AND WHEN THE GOVERNMENT TRIES TO SAVE YOU R10 YOU STILL CALL THEM STUPID ON BEHALF OF 10 FARMERSReport Abuse
manu.menne
You see petrol failed the countryReport Abuse
manu.menne
PetrosaReport Abuse
Rockwell
@Sowetan, What is "Shale" now, or are you trying to say Shell? Just askingReport Abuse
manu.menne
There are hundreds of comments on Zuma's apartheid comments, I wanna see how many comments we will get on this story. Honourable sowetan cabinet ministersReport Abuse
MommaC
manu.menneSTOP SHOUTING - it is rude.
Look for a documentary called Gasland then tell us that this is a good idea.
Look for the information about what Shell has done to the Niger Delta then tell us that this is a good idea
The Karoo has one of the most delicate ecosystems in the country, it also has the least water. Now we are looking at destroying both the little underground water that they have and the entire ecosystem. Are you sure that is the legacy you want to hand on to the next generation?
Report Abuse
manu.menne
Shale is rock sandReport Abuse
manu.menne
There you go minister @mommacReport Abuse
_Sinudeity
manu.menne - You actually believe that fracking is going to make our petrol cheaper? It will just mean that the top dawgs can loot more out of the taxes.Report Abuse
RobinH
Manu,menne: SO what is there to be positive about in this messocracy? Please tell, as we would dearly love to be disabused of our cynicism.Report Abuse
manu.menne
@robinh. Lots of fuel products at a very low costs. Only if our government did not mess the contracts with shell. 10% towards Shell and the rest to Rsa. Robinh, you are Arabic, you should be in a position to tell us betterReport Abuse
MommaC
manu.menneThank you dear, much appreciated.
Now I really do advise you to look at that documentary. It is very scary.
We have Sasol - don't make a damn worth of difference to the petrol price though.
Report Abuse
manu.menne
@mommas. Your car is all ready causing a lot of damage to the environment.Report Abuse
MommaC
manu.menneYes, and if we had a decent public transport, I'd do less damage.
The problem is that this is HUGE damage. Water taps that can be set on fire, cattle dying, humans becoming incredibly ill, higher possibility of earthquake ..... really nasty stuff
Report Abuse
manu.menne
I am excited about the decision. I remember Msg Shabangu's speech to the cabinet about fracking. She simply expressed it by saying "it's a God given gift" for south AfricansReport Abuse
manu.menne
@mommac. How about ppl in rural areas who need paraffin? Forget about them because you will say they must have electricity. How about my electronic gas stove, how about my caravan that needs gas?Report Abuse
MommaC
manu.menneDo you really think the price of gas will come down?
Sasol doesn't make the price of petrol come down.
Report Abuse
manu.menne
This is where our government prove nationalisationReport Abuse
manu.menne
By the sound of it they gave the major share to shellReport Abuse
RobinH
Manu: Firstly, How on earth you get to think I am Arabic is beyond me. I am from an Afrikaans and English background. Besides that. it is extremely naive to think that this would lead to cheaper fuel. And with respect, what you say about MommaC applies to all cars, yours included. That, however is irrelevant, as it goes about minimising, not eliminating.Report Abuse
manu.menne
@robinh. Do you want to tell me that your house does not produce garbage? A garbageless house. Energy efficient? Everything we touch produces residueReport Abuse
Bizzabo
RobinHManu: Firstly, How on earth you get to think I am Arabic is beyond me. I am from an Afrikaans and English background.
kikikikiki
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Sageville
Go watch / google a documentary called "Gasland", it's al about how the big business are setting up this frakking thing in america and how it poisons the land and the people/animals living on it.People can set fire to the water comming out of their taps!
Thats just how bad it can get.
This is really bad news for Karoo.
Report Abuse
RobinH
Manu: So what! Because all homes cause emissions it is fine to wreck a fragile ecosystem? You ascribe to a very strange logic system, Sir. Very strange. BUT, as you do seem to want to talk irrelevance, have you paused to consider that some people actually sort their garbage and recycle what can be recycled, thereby reducing the garbage output. Humans cause refuse. We all know that. But to damage the environment excessively and unnecessarily certainly does not strike one as all that wise. Even for us Arabic people, lol.Report Abuse
manu.menne
We are talking energy needs of south Africa. We are not talking me and you and juju and Zuma. All for south AfricansReport Abuse
manu.menne
Yes we will contaminate to some extend, we need to control itReport Abuse
manu.menne
Mining companies are already contaminatingReport Abuse
manu.menne
Banking is already contaminating. Unsecured loansReport Abuse
RobinH
Ag manu, I give up. This is not a discussion. It is simply you expounding your view and refusing to reason with anyone. So there. You may have your flawed view. It's all yours.Report Abuse
manu.menne
@robinh. Goodluck on your ministerial duties @sowetan. I AM so excited about our government's decision. Good one for us. Lots of energy. You may go on and bash on Zuma. He will not be around near future. Maybe if juju wants attention, he should go and ask about who is the major shareholder. We are talking billions hereReport Abuse
RobinH
Manu: WHAT? What's your problem? Enjoy your energy. Me, I'll enjoy my weekend and try to use as little of resources as possible. Jeez, there are some seriously crazy people on this site.Report Abuse
MommaC
I am so glad that I won't be around to see Mau.menne's future - unfortunately, my kids will :(Report Abuse
RobinH
MommaC: If one followed his lead, no-one will see a future.Report Abuse
manu.menne
Ejo. Too many personalities but same character. Amazing! It's called multitaskingReport Abuse
MommaC
RobinHSins of the father?
What are we leaving as our legacy?
Report Abuse
bytheway1
This comes at an interesting time. Wonder how much they get paid under the table for this... surely they (ANC) need funds for electoral expenses and wifes.... jets.... 4X4's.... etc.Report Abuse
RobinH
manu: COnspiracy theories abound among paranoid schizophrenics. COnsider getting help.Report Abuse
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