It is important to pass these tests as you are developed to be the future artisans most of these learners get here and lazy around and cry when their contracts are being terminated they are those that are dedicated and read their contracts well.I joined as a GIT and had tests to write and we signed in our contracts that should we fail or fall pregnant whilst on training Eskom has the right to terminate Report Abuse
Aug 29, 2012
Sugaar
@Kaylae
I'm happy to see that you are a Gurdian,however I don't want to comment about this issue.
The bottom line is you have to pass , it will be unfair to candidates who started with you and worked hard to pass , from the article you were recruited being 20 & only 5 failed , so how did the 15 pass then , to me stop mourning , count your looses , you were given a chance to improve your lives and you blow it , they are millions of other students who would have done better , honestly speaking I don`t sympathise with you , you have disgraced the whole Escom effort and programme to try to uplift the lives of disadvanatged African people , if you were my sons I would have wipped you the African way Report Abuse
Aug 29, 2012
sabza007
If what is being said by these learners is true, then they were unfairly treated. Why others fail three times and given a chance and others fail once but get kicked out?? Hillary Joffe, please investigate. Report Abuse
Aug 29, 2012
RobinH
I agree with Kaylae and Flemza: SUch tests seem to be more or less the equivalent of an "entrance exam" offered by universities to those without matric. Obviously the candidate has to pull finger and demonstrate that he or she is going to be a worthwhile, productive employee. Those not willing or able to crack what is required, MUST fall by the wayside. They are not running a charity shop. They are trying to empower people who are prepared to work to improve themselves. Report Abuse
Aug 29, 2012
MommaC
This is a very confusing article. I cannot make head nor tail of what it was supposed to be trying to inform us about. Report Abuse
Aug 29, 2012
RobinH
MommaC; Agreed. Clueless and directionless reportage. Report Abuse
Aug 29, 2012
Moffdat
Sowetan is outdoing itself today.
Why don't you write an article about the fact that i jog every morning and once sprained my ankle? Report Abuse
Aug 29, 2012
Moffdat
Sowetan i'm chewing gum and just threw it on the pavement!!
Why don't you write about that... very interesting. Report Abuse
Aug 29, 2012
CPMaklov
Shame,same thing is happening at Grovos Training Centre in Lephalale.African trainees are disqualified and few are absorbed.All whites are absorbed.
Moffdat: Is it previously disadvantaged gum? If not, no story, lol. Report Abuse
Aug 29, 2012
RobinH
CPMaklov: Ummm. Hello. I doubt very much that your demonic whites were granted entry into such a programme, you racially blinkered twit. Report Abuse
Aug 29, 2012
Kaylae
CPMaklov:different scenarios Eskom employ lots of black matriculants than whites nor other race.These kids since they are paid they just lazy around and think the world revolves around them every year we have lots of matriculants and those that are serious and want a better future take their classes seriously and pass.after all their modules they must also do trade tests to qualify and i know that those who fail trade tests gets given chances and mind you this is the last stage.These ones failed at first attempt whilst still doing modules its won't be fair as well to those hardworking matriculants Report Abuse
Aug 29, 2012
seutullamakunutu
Let us not blame this on apartheid again.
If you are a student you study, pass and go to next level.
Fail , repeat the class or be disimissed as some of the courses there is no room for trial and error. The learner who failed once and not given a chance, my gut telsl me that the rest who failed several times and allowed more chance is related to TJOTJO, that's how corrupt our country is. How does Dipuo Peters, minister of energy being a social worker in profession become minister of energy. This is a joke, this woman never adresses eskom issues but wants to adress the parliament regarding the nuclear budget when cross questioned about the budget as well she becomes very defensive. Wonder if Dipuo understands her job description.Most of Zuma's ministers are incapable, Angie Motshekga is not the only one.
Learners study and complain if you pass and treated unfairly why do we need people to compete at how some are good in failing \? No man. tired of electricity cuts every week , month end the bill is harrendous !! Yerrrrrr
seutullamakunutu: Well said, Ma'am!!!!! Report Abuse
Aug 29, 2012
skhokho21
This boy is talking k a k, when I was on training at Eskom, all the criteria were made clear to me before hand, I know the standard of training at eskom is very high. If you fail, you are given a choice to do an oral test on what you got wrong or repeat the whole exam at another time or repeat the course, you need to be careful of your choice becoz the other students are not waiting for you. There were cases where an appie will have someone to translate the question to his/her mother tangue as they were challenged in the Qeuun`s language.
Kaylae/Sugaar, I did my training at Koeberg in 1994, the area was AWB infested at the time. Report Abuse
Aug 29, 2012
skhokho21
seutullamakunutu
Let us not blame this on apartheid again.
If you are a student you study, pass and go to next level.
Fail , repeat the class or be disimissed as some of the courses there is no room for trial and error. The learner who failed once and not given a chance, my gut telsl me that the rest who failed several times and allowed more chance is related to TJOTJO, that's how corrupt our country is. How does Dipuo Peters, minister of energy being a social worker in profession become minister of energy. This is a joke, this woman never adresses eskom issues but wants to adress the parliament regarding the nuclear budget when cross questioned about the budget as well she becomes very defensive. Wonder if Dipuo understands her job description.Most of Zuma's ministers are incapable, Angie Motshekga is not the only one.
Learners study and complain if you pass and treated unfairly why do we need people to compete at how some are good in failing \? No man. tired of electricity cuts every week , month end the bill is harrendous !! Yerrrrrr
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Then go back to Lesotho, your country, why are you still here if we are that bad in SA. I told you & 9niger yesterday to stay out of SA politics, worse of all this topic was not even about what you talked about, srhama sakho. Report Abuse
Aug 29, 2012
Sugaar
CPMaklov
Shame,same thing is happening at Grovos Training Centre in Lephalale.African trainees are disqualified and few are absorbed.All whites are absorbed.
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They can even fail you just because you refused to speak afrikaans. Report Abuse
Aug 29, 2012
Afrojoy
These young people were given a once in a lifetime chance to join Eskom which happens to also pay well when fully employed. So many other youngsters are crying for a chance to be trade trained and skilled. It's a pity SA youngsters enjoy boozing and sexing more than they give attention to their training. With electrical engineering training, you have to get it right otherwise a poorly trained person will be a danger to himself, co-workers, equipment and society. They should have worked hard enough to pass. Now its back to the street corner. Report Abuse
Aug 29, 2012
RobinH
Sugaar. Shame, man. Victims Disease is awful. Report Abuse
Aug 29, 2012
DA-DBN-GUY
CPMaklov
Probably because the whites passed the exams! Report Abuse
Aug 29, 2012
Flemza
@ Sugar , just speak Afrikaans , whats wrong with that , Afrikaans its purely South Afrikan language like Zulu , Sotho , Venda , Tswana , Tsonga , Xhosa and many more I left , if you can not speak 2/3 of these langauges then you should be ashamed of your self , English is not a South Afrikan langauge , even though I speak it together with French , Spanish and Portuguese , to me its just for fun to just understand how stupid people who speak these langauges are , but I`m speak all my Mzanzi languages with pride including Afrikaans hence you can`t desciminate me anywhere in Mzansi Report Abuse
Aug 29, 2012
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
Five trainees from Balfour, Mpumalanga, said they were told to write a test in a National Qualifications Frameworks (NQF) level three course, when they had not completed the level two course.
The trainees - Stephen Mhlambi, Paseka Motloung, Siphelele Mhlambi, Nicky Matshaya and Saphulusa Leemai - further said the test was based on field training, which they had not done.
"I failed a test once and I was sent home. Others had failed three times but were given a second chance."
Stephen Mhlambi said according to the contract they were allowed to fail a module three times
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Eskom's testing system is a bit flawed if what the trainees say is true.
Another big blob is why allow students to fail (nogal 3 times), IMO we always promote underperformance or non performance.
@Kaylae
CPMaklov:different scenarios Eskom employ lots of black matriculants than whites nor other race.These kids since they are paid they just lazy around and think the world revolves around them every year
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The sense of entitlement is dragging us down.......... Report Abuse
Aug 29, 2012
TANTALIZA
i know what they talking about i trained under Engineering skills tranning center for anglo platinum(ESTC), europians and afrikaaners where not ecspected to do there phase test while we worked out back side of to write those test. we were forced to call the intructor oom so he cant fauil us. during trade test one of my friend was failed just becoz he failed to put and si unit for resitance while the other guy(white male) passed with a tripping alarm circuit. acording to mining qualification authoriy(MQA) under south african qualification authority(SAQA) u are given # chances but my friend was disqualified too. he had to come back after unions have intervined. this people are realy corrupt. Report Abuse
@Sikhokho1 The fact that you say it does not mean it is a fact , I AM A SOUTH AFRICAN I CORRECTED YOU SEVERAL TIMES. Go back and finish your matric. Check my comment and respond but cause your mental capacity and IQ are challenged you do not gather that we comment on overall country leadership which is a reflection of what happens at ministerial levels. Guess all this is not in your vocabulary. U i vesi ndlebe ngempela !! Good luck in your effort to matriculate. Report Abuse
Sep 3, 2012
BraSipho
Welcome to the real world. You have to pass the tests and that is it. Report Abuse
Sep 5, 2012
TDK
My wife's nephew is undertaking similar training at Eskom Midrand Academy. I wish him well. Report Abuse
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Kaylae
It is important to pass these tests as you are developed to be the future artisans most of these learners get here and lazy around and cry when their contracts are being terminated they are those that are dedicated and read their contracts well.I joined as a GIT and had tests to write and we signed in our contracts that should we fail or fall pregnant whilst on training Eskom has the right to terminateReport Abuse
Sugaar
@KaylaeI'm happy to see that you are a Gurdian,however I don't want to comment about this issue.
Report Abuse
Flemza
The bottom line is you have to pass , it will be unfair to candidates who started with you and worked hard to pass , from the article you were recruited being 20 & only 5 failed , so how did the 15 pass then , to me stop mourning , count your looses , you were given a chance to improve your lives and you blow it , they are millions of other students who would have done better , honestly speaking I don`t sympathise with you , you have disgraced the whole Escom effort and programme to try to uplift the lives of disadvanatged African people , if you were my sons I would have wipped you the African wayReport Abuse
sabza007
If what is being said by these learners is true, then they were unfairly treated. Why others fail three times and given a chance and others fail once but get kicked out?? Hillary Joffe, please investigate.Report Abuse
RobinH
I agree with Kaylae and Flemza: SUch tests seem to be more or less the equivalent of an "entrance exam" offered by universities to those without matric. Obviously the candidate has to pull finger and demonstrate that he or she is going to be a worthwhile, productive employee. Those not willing or able to crack what is required, MUST fall by the wayside. They are not running a charity shop. They are trying to empower people who are prepared to work to improve themselves.Report Abuse
MommaC
This is a very confusing article. I cannot make head nor tail of what it was supposed to be trying to inform us about.Report Abuse
RobinH
MommaC; Agreed. Clueless and directionless reportage.Report Abuse
Moffdat
Sowetan is outdoing itself today.Why don't you write an article about the fact that i jog every morning and once sprained my ankle?
Report Abuse
Moffdat
Sowetan i'm chewing gum and just threw it on the pavement!!Why don't you write about that... very interesting.
Report Abuse
CPMaklov
Shame,same thing is happening at Grovos Training Centre in Lephalale.African trainees are disqualified and few are absorbed.All whites are absorbed.Report Abuse
RobinH
Moffdat: Is it previously disadvantaged gum? If not, no story, lol.Report Abuse
RobinH
CPMaklov: Ummm. Hello. I doubt very much that your demonic whites were granted entry into such a programme, you racially blinkered twit.Report Abuse
Kaylae
CPMaklov:different scenarios Eskom employ lots of black matriculants than whites nor other race.These kids since they are paid they just lazy around and think the world revolves around them every year we have lots of matriculants and those that are serious and want a better future take their classes seriously and pass.after all their modules they must also do trade tests to qualify and i know that those who fail trade tests gets given chances and mind you this is the last stage.These ones failed at first attempt whilst still doing modules its won't be fair as well to those hardworking matriculantsReport Abuse
seutullamakunutu
Let us not blame this on apartheid again.If you are a student you study, pass and go to next level.
Fail , repeat the class or be disimissed as some of the courses there is no room for trial and error. The learner who failed once and not given a chance, my gut telsl me that the rest who failed several times and allowed more chance is related to TJOTJO, that's how corrupt our country is. How does Dipuo Peters, minister of energy being a social worker in profession become minister of energy. This is a joke, this woman never adresses eskom issues but wants to adress the parliament regarding the nuclear budget when cross questioned about the budget as well she becomes very defensive. Wonder if Dipuo understands her job description.Most of Zuma's ministers are incapable, Angie Motshekga is not the only one.
Learners study and complain if you pass and treated unfairly why do we need people to compete at how some are good in failing \? No man. tired of electricity cuts every week , month end the bill is harrendous !! Yerrrrrr
Report Abuse
RobinH
seutullamakunutu: Well said, Ma'am!!!!!Report Abuse
skhokho21
This boy is talking k a k, when I was on training at Eskom, all the criteria were made clear to me before hand, I know the standard of training at eskom is very high. If you fail, you are given a choice to do an oral test on what you got wrong or repeat the whole exam at another time or repeat the course, you need to be careful of your choice becoz the other students are not waiting for you. There were cases where an appie will have someone to translate the question to his/her mother tangue as they were challenged in the Qeuun`s language.Kaylae/Sugaar, I did my training at Koeberg in 1994, the area was AWB infested at the time.
Report Abuse
skhokho21
seutullamakunutuLet us not blame this on apartheid again.
If you are a student you study, pass and go to next level.
Fail , repeat the class or be disimissed as some of the courses there is no room for trial and error. The learner who failed once and not given a chance, my gut telsl me that the rest who failed several times and allowed more chance is related to TJOTJO, that's how corrupt our country is. How does Dipuo Peters, minister of energy being a social worker in profession become minister of energy. This is a joke, this woman never adresses eskom issues but wants to adress the parliament regarding the nuclear budget when cross questioned about the budget as well she becomes very defensive. Wonder if Dipuo understands her job description.Most of Zuma's ministers are incapable, Angie Motshekga is not the only one.
Learners study and complain if you pass and treated unfairly why do we need people to compete at how some are good in failing \? No man. tired of electricity cuts every week , month end the bill is harrendous !! Yerrrrrr
....................................................................................................................................................
Then go back to Lesotho, your country, why are you still here if we are that bad in SA. I told you & 9niger yesterday to stay out of SA politics, worse of all this topic was not even about what you talked about, srhama sakho.
Report Abuse
Sugaar
CPMaklovShame,same thing is happening at Grovos Training Centre in Lephalale.African trainees are disqualified and few are absorbed.All whites are absorbed.
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They can even fail you just because you refused to speak afrikaans.
Report Abuse
Afrojoy
These young people were given a once in a lifetime chance to join Eskom which happens to also pay well when fully employed. So many other youngsters are crying for a chance to be trade trained and skilled. It's a pity SA youngsters enjoy boozing and sexing more than they give attention to their training. With electrical engineering training, you have to get it right otherwise a poorly trained person will be a danger to himself, co-workers, equipment and society. They should have worked hard enough to pass. Now its back to the street corner.Report Abuse
RobinH
Sugaar. Shame, man. Victims Disease is awful.Report Abuse
DA-DBN-GUY
CPMaklovProbably because the whites passed the exams!
Report Abuse
Flemza
@ Sugar , just speak Afrikaans , whats wrong with that , Afrikaans its purely South Afrikan language like Zulu , Sotho , Venda , Tswana , Tsonga , Xhosa and many more I left , if you can not speak 2/3 of these langauges then you should be ashamed of your self , English is not a South Afrikan langauge , even though I speak it together with French , Spanish and Portuguese , to me its just for fun to just understand how stupid people who speak these langauges are , but I`m speak all my Mzanzi languages with pride including Afrikaans hence you can`t desciminate me anywhere in MzansiReport Abuse
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
Five trainees from Balfour, Mpumalanga, said they were told to write a test in a National Qualifications Frameworks (NQF) level three course, when they had not completed the level two course.The trainees - Stephen Mhlambi, Paseka Motloung, Siphelele Mhlambi, Nicky Matshaya and Saphulusa Leemai - further said the test was based on field training, which they had not done.
"I failed a test once and I was sent home. Others had failed three times but were given a second chance."
Stephen Mhlambi said according to the contract they were allowed to fail a module three times
**************************************************************************************************************
Eskom's testing system is a bit flawed if what the trainees say is true.
Another big blob is why allow students to fail (nogal 3 times), IMO we always promote underperformance or non performance.
Report Abuse
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@KaylaeCPMaklov:different scenarios Eskom employ lots of black matriculants than whites nor other race.These kids since they are paid they just lazy around and think the world revolves around them every year
*******************************************************************************************
The sense of entitlement is dragging us down..........
Report Abuse
TANTALIZA
i know what they talking about i trained under Engineering skills tranning center for anglo platinum(ESTC), europians and afrikaaners where not ecspected to do there phase test while we worked out back side of to write those test. we were forced to call the intructor oom so he cant fauil us. during trade test one of my friend was failed just becoz he failed to put and si unit for resitance while the other guy(white male) passed with a tripping alarm circuit. acording to mining qualification authoriy(MQA) under south african qualification authority(SAQA) u are given # chances but my friend was disqualified too. he had to come back after unions have intervined. this people are realy corrupt.Report Abuse
TANTALIZA
3 chances meant to sayReport Abuse
seutullamakunutu
@Sikhokho1 The fact that you say it does not mean it is a fact , I AM A SOUTH AFRICAN I CORRECTED YOU SEVERAL TIMES. Go back and finish your matric. Check my comment and respond but cause your mental capacity and IQ are challenged you do not gather that we comment on overall country leadership which is a reflection of what happens at ministerial levels. Guess all this is not in your vocabulary. U i vesi ndlebe ngempela !! Good luck in your effort to matriculate.Report Abuse
BraSipho
Welcome to the real world. You have to pass the tests and that is it.Report Abuse
TDK
My wife's nephew is undertaking similar training at Eskom Midrand Academy. I wish him well.Report Abuse
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