ANC secretary-general Gwede Mantashe and Nedbank chairman Reuel Khoza have smoked the peace pipe following a bitter spat by the banking boss over SA's "degenerating" leadership.
This is just a smoke screen which would not even fool the embecile Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
Shredder
Mantashe promised to beat Khoza with his specs. Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
sibuyim
Gwede Mantashe is a dead snake. Come Mangaung! Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
KeRataBasadi
The emperor is still naked, this time with a hard on. Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
Makhosini0408
Thou shall not criticise the ANC.
It is really really sad, how the ANC has become so arrogant and bigheaded.
Mr Khoza, you are a great patriot and I salute you. Pity that now Luthuli' House wants to tell us what to say and how to say it. Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
Stigga
Lol this government is extremely greedy Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
RobinH
So what was he threatened with, I wonder. Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
sibuyim
ANC can only listen to Service delivery toyi toyi. If u dont have water or tar roads just organise toyi toyi they will listen. Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
Mangoz
Attack the BLOCK, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha these r all gangsters!!!! Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
TheDictator
At least Mantashe saw his childishness and decided to grow up. Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
rasefatee
You are herewith invited to attend the funerall service of the late gwedee mantashee [the dictatorr]
Date of burial: December 2012
Place: Mangaung
For any transport arrangements please feel freee contact your nearest anc youthh league offices for assistance
GWEDE 1 - 0 KHOZA. Black capitalist had no choice after being told by his White bosses not to mess up- so listened and went running to GWEDE. Next time think before you talk Khoza. You have been warned!!! Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
sabza007
Mantashe is a cowarrd, he would have not apologized to Khoza if the big gunnns such as Pick'n Pay CEO, Anglo Platinum CEO, Mass Mart CEO and other top dogggs did not support Khoza in his stance. We are talking about big employers here, and you don't want to make them feel uncomfortable. Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
Socrates
Business has a role to play in the building of any country so they have interest (financial and social obligation), thus they cannot be suppressed by some mafia politics. The sooner this straight-teeth vampire realises that, the sooner Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
ZUMAMUSTGO
It is so easy to meet with Khoza and have a robust discussion and there is nothing wrong with that however the ANCYL has for quite a long time now asking to meet with the ANC to iron out the differences but they have been shown the middle finger, it only goes to show the kind of leadership we have in the ANC. Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
Tasto
In the struggle the ppl who bore brunt of the violence most were black people even from the so-called black-on-black\third force violence.In this economic struggle the past tendencies are still being perpetuated by those in position. Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
MommaC
Gwede is getting as bad as Malema. Run off at the mouth then run around doing damage control. Not the traits of a good leader at all Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
Tasto
@MommaC - agree with you abt DAMAGE CONTROL now !!
@SABZA007
Hey it is Khoza who went to GWEDE get your facts right.
Pick n' Pay and the capitalists when asked about what Khoza they refused to say they support him. Why they did not openly supported him? Improve your reading and analytical skills. Report Abuse
ITS IS KHOZA WHO WANTED TO SEE GWEDE. ALL OF YOU KHOZA SUPPORTERS GET YOU FACT CORRECT TU... ARE YOU EMBARASSED THAT YOUR KHOZA WAS SENT BY HIS WHITE BOSSES TO APOLOGISE? Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
sabza007
@140mji
Little Jimmy, why are you Fccken protecting your vampire lookalike idiot. Why would Khoza go ordinarily to Mantashe to express his opinion when he has been lambasted by Nathi, bubble mouth Blade Nzimande, Jimmy Manyi and others???. He was invited and he accepted the offer. Next time use your brain to think bloody fagggot than using your asss coupled with emotions Report Abuse
It a pity that some business leaders failed to support one of their own, I do believe that he was correct. Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
140mji
@SABZA007
Oops... I must have struck a nerve here. Invited? Nurse your ego... with lies. Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
RobinH
140mji: Stick your racist agenda where the sun doesn't shine. Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
sabza007
@140mji.
No,you didn't...fool. You will have a heart attack stupid.This is politics.Think above what you can read in newspapers. Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
tsayaya
any one who can tell me why does the Youth League call Oom Gwede, "Dogbreath",? Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
140mji
@RobinH
I was riased bythe white racist government and taught by the same white government. what do you expect out of me? Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
RobinH
140mji: One would hope that you learned something. Not expecting much from someone who says such things though. Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
140mji
READ:
Business is ‘shooting itself in the foot’ — Mantashe
‘Open discussion’ but no apology as African National Congress secretary-general Gwede Mantashe meets Nedbank chairman Reuel Khoza
From: businessday.co.za
ALL KHOZA, THE BLACK CAPITALIST, SUPPORTERS GO AND READ THIS... Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
somaartakeit
what choice did Nedbank had considering that you would have abused our tax to cut them off from doing business with the gov, the anc arrogance is so nauseating. Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
MommaC
140mji
It must absolutely break your heart that Khoza is dark skinned. The perfect opportunity for the race card and you can't bring it out. Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
Kone
The outgoing Secretary General must understand the fact that nothing is permanent, but CHANGE!........
Since the 52nd conference the Organisation is divided more than ever, and lot of contradiction, crass,coruption, finaly the dysfunctional state. Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
140mji
@MommaC
He is a sellout....finish and klaar. Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
WordofGod
@tsayaya
wena tsayaya, why do you say bazalwane ba basa.di ba babe ? i have responded to your comment on the other article. Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
MommaC
140mji
then so is the younger Mbeki, Cyril, Manual, Malema and the rest of the people who have been questioning the direction that the ANC leadership has been taking Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
Anyone who cricises the Mafia is seen as a traitor........ sure sign of dic.tat.orsh.ip Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@Socrates
Business.....................
The sooner this straight-teeth vampire realises that, the sooner
*************************************************************************************************
They look more like fangs........ that need a real scrubbing
@MsKink whilst most of us don't agree with some of the stuff Malema does or say, he has a point when he said the anc is now under dictator leadership it is just unfortunate that he came to realise this when he became victim of the dictators, Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
100%Boer
Mxmmm Goaty is really turning ANC into his underpene! Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
Xovizwe
Good discipline Mr Mantashe, you teach the young one real truth. Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
Xovizwe
@140mji
Very true my brother, we learned from the best.
Khoza must understand that it is very suicidal to invilve yourself in politics when you have little or no clue. Reading too much capitalist newspapers (Sunday Times, Bleed, etc) can negatively corrupt your mind. Coming out gun blazing against ANC government was uncalled for.
Mr Khoza, stick to business, at least that is where no one will find out how shallow you are. Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
lindsay
the only way to put this mafia into its place is through a ballot box, you can vote them out that will teach them to respect people Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
nghunghunyane
Mantashe should have a lip job, ntlx
Mr Khoza you are doing a more fantastic job tlhe rra! you have employed many of my friends with sustainable jobs, unlike your haters Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
tsayaya
WordofGod
@tsayaya
wena tsayaya, why do you say bazalwane ba basa.di ba babe ? i have responded to your comment on the other article.
==========================================================================
Hi Wordie
i didn't say that, i only said ba ke ba tsebang, ha ba batle haholo e bile ha ba babe ha nnyane! Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@Sowetan, where is the Tim Ncube story who died because of the blue light gang (transporting Zwelithini) Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
RobinH
Kinks: Good question. Sometimes Sowetan is really slow on news. Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
Tikoloshe
.....Well said my good Sir Khoza. Just because you're black and you hold a senior and influential position in the business community means to "Goatie" Mantashe and that very ugly communist Blade that you are not qualified to speak the truth against the current direction our movement has taken under these thugs that have hijacked our Party.
Most of Mzansi support you in your views....the response by the ugly one...the same one who is single handedly destroying higher education....reported in the Sunday newspapers was astounding!!!!! Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
WordofGod
@tsayaya
when was the last time you went to church? go now, and you will get a shock of your life...ha se ka bo halle berry, ke tlang le boneng... Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
MommaC
It is a pity that the rest of the foreword by Khoza is just completely ignored. It was a very good piece of writing and incredibly insightful Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
RobinH
somaartakeit: Make no mistake, Do not praise the man for criticising dictatorship. This is just another ploy. Given half a chance he and his buddies would be running their own Gestapo. What are these young thugs other than wannabe dictators. Let's not be naive here. Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
tsayaya
WordofGod
@tsayaya
when was the last time you went to church? go now, and you will get a shock of your life...ha se ka bo halle berry, ke tlang le boneng...
==========================================================================which church do u attend, Pastor Mbhoro's? Report Abuse
@tsayaya
bo halle berry ga baye ko mehlanganong! mbhoro o nale a social gathering & not a church. go to a true church ya Jesu, the one that worships God in truth and in spirit....then o tla thola bo jennifer lopez and bo beyonces ba mo mzansi Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
sabza007
@lindsay
the only way to put this mafia into its place is through a ballot box, you can vote them out that will teach them to respect people.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
They won't be out of government, remember ''C'' stands for corruption.Zimbabweans,Lesotho Nationals and Namibians have been used to vote ANC in the past elections through fraudulent IDs. Ask yourself why we ahve many fake IDs in this country.I Know this and have seen this happening. Voters Ballots are easily rigged. We need a new system of voting, otherwise A.N.C will be in power till devil comes. Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
seutullamakunutu
Mantashe o batla warm klap o a tella wena. Mangaung dumela ! Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
MGEEZ
RobinH
So what was he threatened with, I wonder
==================================================
In your question above; who do you suppose threatened who and why???? Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
RobinH
Mgeez: I wouldn't ask if I knew, would I? Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
140mji
Khoza must learn that the challenges and problems faced by current Black leaders in Government are the same faced with Black leaders in private sector.
Capitalism and linguicism are main culprits. So fo Khoza to shift for focus from his failure as Black leader in private sector is hypocrisy at its best.
When he was an advisor of Mbeki he discipline First National Bank defending the government, today he is the one who is throwing stones to the government he served and defended against the private sector ..nx.... Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
RobinH
140mji: " he discipline First National Bank defending the government" - Please translate into intelligible English. Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
Xovizwe
RobinH
140mji: " he discipline First National Bank defending the government" - Please translate into intelligible English.
-----------------------------------------------------
Intelligible English: Uyajwayela bhunu ndini, asibona abelungu thina, funda nasi-ke isiZulu nhlunu sibone ukuthi ubani ose kakhulu. Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
MommaC
140mji
Well as a black business leader who (by your admission) has the same challenges as the government, that would make him an expert on the matter and give him even more reason to speak his mind Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
RobinH
Xovizwe: Thanks, Sir. Very intelligent and even more helpful. Report Abuse
Apr 17, 2012
140mji
@RobinH
Whitey - English is not my first language anyway I can speak and write more than one language. If given a second chance (I will proofread and correct it - foool; racist English language-speaker - you think speaking english makes you superior shame and intelligent on you. Report Abuse
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letsetse
This is just a smoke screen which would not even fool the embecileReport Abuse
Shredder
Mantashe promised to beat Khoza with his specs.Report Abuse
sibuyim
Gwede Mantashe is a dead snake. Come Mangaung!Report Abuse
KeRataBasadi
The emperor is still naked, this time with a hard on.Report Abuse
Makhosini0408
Thou shall not criticise the ANC.It is really really sad, how the ANC has become so arrogant and bigheaded.
Mr Khoza, you are a great patriot and I salute you. Pity that now Luthuli' House wants to tell us what to say and how to say it.
Report Abuse
Stigga
Lol this government is extremely greedyReport Abuse
RobinH
So what was he threatened with, I wonder.Report Abuse
sibuyim
ANC can only listen to Service delivery toyi toyi. If u dont have water or tar roads just organise toyi toyi they will listen.Report Abuse
Mangoz
Attack the BLOCK, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha these r all gangsters!!!!Report Abuse
TheDictator
At least Mantashe saw his childishness and decided to grow up.Report Abuse
rasefatee
You are herewith invited to attend the funerall service of the late gwedee mantashee [the dictatorr]Date of burial: December 2012
Place: Mangaung
For any transport arrangements please feel freee contact your nearest anc youthh league offices for assistance
Report Abuse
140mji
GWEDE 1 - 0 KHOZA. Black capitalist had no choice after being told by his White bosses not to mess up- so listened and went running to GWEDE. Next time think before you talk Khoza. You have been warned!!!Report Abuse
sabza007
Mantashe is a cowarrd, he would have not apologized to Khoza if the big gunnns such as Pick'n Pay CEO, Anglo Platinum CEO, Mass Mart CEO and other top dogggs did not support Khoza in his stance. We are talking about big employers here, and you don't want to make them feel uncomfortable.Report Abuse
Socrates
Business has a role to play in the building of any country so they have interest (financial and social obligation), thus they cannot be suppressed by some mafia politics. The sooner this straight-teeth vampire realises that, the soonerReport Abuse
ZUMAMUSTGO
It is so easy to meet with Khoza and have a robust discussion and there is nothing wrong with that however the ANCYL has for quite a long time now asking to meet with the ANC to iron out the differences but they have been shown the middle finger, it only goes to show the kind of leadership we have in the ANC.Report Abuse
Tasto
In the struggle the ppl who bore brunt of the violence most were black people even from the so-called black-on-black\third force violence.In this economic struggle the past tendencies are still being perpetuated by those in position.Report Abuse
MommaC
Gwede is getting as bad as Malema. Run off at the mouth then run around doing damage control. Not the traits of a good leader at allReport Abuse
Tasto
@MommaC - agree with you abt DAMAGE CONTROL now !!Report Abuse
140mji
@SABZA007Hey it is Khoza who went to GWEDE get your facts right.
Pick n' Pay and the capitalists when asked about what Khoza they refused to say they support him. Why they did not openly supported him? Improve your reading and analytical skills.
Report Abuse
RobinH
Socrates: Spot on. Well said!Tasto: And your point is?
Report Abuse
Tasto
Gwede msut tell SA how did OldMutual listed in LSE under anc rule ?Report Abuse
sibuyim
Qwede was negotiating for his loan.Report Abuse
140mji
ITS IS KHOZA WHO WANTED TO SEE GWEDE. ALL OF YOU KHOZA SUPPORTERS GET YOU FACT CORRECT TU... ARE YOU EMBARASSED THAT YOUR KHOZA WAS SENT BY HIS WHITE BOSSES TO APOLOGISE?Report Abuse
sabza007
@140mjiLittle Jimmy, why are you Fccken protecting your vampire lookalike idiot. Why would Khoza go ordinarily to Mantashe to express his opinion when he has been lambasted by Nathi, bubble mouth Blade Nzimande, Jimmy Manyi and others???. He was invited and he accepted the offer. Next time use your brain to think bloody fagggot than using your asss coupled with emotions
Report Abuse
MorenaWaPolelo
Finaly some senseReport Abuse
ThirdEye
It a pity that some business leaders failed to support one of their own, I do believe that he was correct.Report Abuse
140mji
@SABZA007Oops... I must have struck a nerve here. Invited? Nurse your ego... with lies.
Report Abuse
RobinH
140mji: Stick your racist agenda where the sun doesn't shine.Report Abuse
sabza007
@140mji.No,you didn't...fool. You will have a heart attack stupid.This is politics.Think above what you can read in newspapers.
Report Abuse
tsayaya
any one who can tell me why does the Youth League call Oom Gwede, "Dogbreath",?Report Abuse
140mji
@RobinHI was riased bythe white racist government and taught by the same white government. what do you expect out of me?
Report Abuse
RobinH
140mji: One would hope that you learned something. Not expecting much from someone who says such things though.Report Abuse
140mji
READ:Business is ‘shooting itself in the foot’ — Mantashe
‘Open discussion’ but no apology as African National Congress secretary-general Gwede Mantashe meets Nedbank chairman Reuel Khoza
From: businessday.co.za
ALL KHOZA, THE BLACK CAPITALIST, SUPPORTERS GO AND READ THIS...
Report Abuse
somaartakeit
what choice did Nedbank had considering that you would have abused our tax to cut them off from doing business with the gov, the anc arrogance is so nauseating.Report Abuse
MommaC
140mjiIt must absolutely break your heart that Khoza is dark skinned. The perfect opportunity for the race card and you can't bring it out.
Report Abuse
Kone
The outgoing Secretary General must understand the fact that nothing is permanent, but CHANGE!........Since the 52nd conference the Organisation is divided more than ever, and lot of contradiction, crass,coruption, finaly the dysfunctional state.
Report Abuse
140mji
@MommaCHe is a sellout....finish and klaar.
Report Abuse
WordofGod
@tsayayawena tsayaya, why do you say bazalwane ba basa.di ba babe ? i have responded to your comment on the other article.
Report Abuse
MommaC
140mjithen so is the younger Mbeki, Cyril, Manual, Malema and the rest of the people who have been questioning the direction that the ANC leadership has been taking
Report Abuse
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
Anyone who cricises the Mafia is seen as a traitor........ sure sign of dic.tat.orsh.ipReport Abuse
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@SocratesBusiness.....................
The sooner this straight-teeth vampire realises that, the sooner
*************************************************************************************************
They look more like fangs........ that need a real scrubbing
Report Abuse
somaartakeit
@MsKink whilst most of us don't agree with some of the stuff Malema does or say, he has a point when he said the anc is now under dictator leadership it is just unfortunate that he came to realise this when he became victim of the dictators,Report Abuse
100%Boer
Mxmmm Goaty is really turning ANC into his underpene!Report Abuse
Xovizwe
Good discipline Mr Mantashe, you teach the young one real truth.Report Abuse
Xovizwe
@140mjiVery true my brother, we learned from the best.
Khoza must understand that it is very suicidal to invilve yourself in politics when you have little or no clue. Reading too much capitalist newspapers (Sunday Times, Bleed, etc) can negatively corrupt your mind. Coming out gun blazing against ANC government was uncalled for.
Mr Khoza, stick to business, at least that is where no one will find out how shallow you are.
Report Abuse
lindsay
the only way to put this mafia into its place is through a ballot box, you can vote them out that will teach them to respect peopleReport Abuse
nghunghunyane
Mantashe should have a lip job, ntlxMr Khoza you are doing a more fantastic job tlhe rra! you have employed many of my friends with sustainable jobs, unlike your haters
Report Abuse
tsayaya
WordofGod@tsayaya
wena tsayaya, why do you say bazalwane ba basa.di ba babe ? i have responded to your comment on the other article.
==========================================================================
Hi Wordie
i didn't say that, i only said ba ke ba tsebang, ha ba batle haholo e bile ha ba babe ha nnyane!
Report Abuse
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@Sowetan, where is the Tim Ncube story who died because of the blue light gang (transporting Zwelithini)Report Abuse
RobinH
Kinks: Good question. Sometimes Sowetan is really slow on news.Report Abuse
Tikoloshe
.....Well said my good Sir Khoza. Just because you're black and you hold a senior and influential position in the business community means to "Goatie" Mantashe and that very ugly communist Blade that you are not qualified to speak the truth against the current direction our movement has taken under these thugs that have hijacked our Party.Most of Mzansi support you in your views....the response by the ugly one...the same one who is single handedly destroying higher education....reported in the Sunday newspapers was astounding!!!!!
Report Abuse
WordofGod
@tsayayawhen was the last time you went to church? go now, and you will get a shock of your life...ha se ka bo halle berry, ke tlang le boneng...
Report Abuse
MommaC
It is a pity that the rest of the foreword by Khoza is just completely ignored. It was a very good piece of writing and incredibly insightfulReport Abuse
RobinH
somaartakeit: Make no mistake, Do not praise the man for criticising dictatorship. This is just another ploy. Given half a chance he and his buddies would be running their own Gestapo. What are these young thugs other than wannabe dictators. Let's not be naive here.Report Abuse
tsayaya
WordofGod@tsayaya
when was the last time you went to church? go now, and you will get a shock of your life...ha se ka bo halle berry, ke tlang le boneng...
==========================================================================which church do u attend, Pastor Mbhoro's?
Report Abuse
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
http://w.w.w.metro.new.spa.per.co.za/2012/04/17/top-journalist-kil.l.ed-in-head-on-coll.ision-with/Report Abuse
WordofGod
@tsayayabo halle berry ga baye ko mehlanganong! mbhoro o nale a social gathering & not a church. go to a true church ya Jesu, the one that worships God in truth and in spirit....then o tla thola bo jennifer lopez and bo beyonces ba mo mzansi
Report Abuse
sabza007
@lindsaythe only way to put this mafia into its place is through a ballot box, you can vote them out that will teach them to respect people.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
They won't be out of government, remember ''C'' stands for corruption.Zimbabweans,Lesotho Nationals and Namibians have been used to vote ANC in the past elections through fraudulent IDs. Ask yourself why we ahve many fake IDs in this country.I Know this and have seen this happening. Voters Ballots are easily rigged. We need a new system of voting, otherwise A.N.C will be in power till devil comes.
Report Abuse
seutullamakunutu
Mantashe o batla warm klap o a tella wena. Mangaung dumela !Report Abuse
MGEEZ
RobinHSo what was he threatened with, I wonder
==================================================
In your question above; who do you suppose threatened who and why????
Report Abuse
RobinH
Mgeez: I wouldn't ask if I knew, would I?Report Abuse
140mji
Khoza must learn that the challenges and problems faced by current Black leaders in Government are the same faced with Black leaders in private sector.Capitalism and linguicism are main culprits. So fo Khoza to shift for focus from his failure as Black leader in private sector is hypocrisy at its best.
When he was an advisor of Mbeki he discipline First National Bank defending the government, today he is the one who is throwing stones to the government he served and defended against the private sector ..nx....
Report Abuse
RobinH
140mji: " he discipline First National Bank defending the government" - Please translate into intelligible English.Report Abuse
Xovizwe
RobinH140mji: " he discipline First National Bank defending the government" - Please translate into intelligible English.
-----------------------------------------------------
Intelligible English: Uyajwayela bhunu ndini, asibona abelungu thina, funda nasi-ke isiZulu nhlunu sibone ukuthi ubani ose kakhulu.
Report Abuse
MommaC
140mjiWell as a black business leader who (by your admission) has the same challenges as the government, that would make him an expert on the matter and give him even more reason to speak his mind
Report Abuse
RobinH
Xovizwe: Thanks, Sir. Very intelligent and even more helpful.Report Abuse
140mji
@RobinHWhitey - English is not my first language anyway I can speak and write more than one language. If given a second chance (I will proofread and correct it - foool; racist English language-speaker - you think speaking english makes you superior shame and intelligent on you.
Report Abuse
MissBhakajuju
Mbalula my S.G !!!!!Report Abuse
divinity
Mantashe looks like he could be humpty dumpty's older brother.Report Abuse
TDK
Politicians think they are always right and above everything and everyone.Report Abuse
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