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Mao Tse Tung street for Tshwane?

By Sapa | 2014-08-29 06:30:45.0 | COMMENTS [ 102 ]

The City of Tshwane has proposed that Chinese revolutionary leader Mao Tse Tung's name be added to its street names bank.

Democratic Alliance councillor Elmarie Linde objected on Thursday to the move, describing the man as a "mass murderer, a womaniser, liar and drug baron".

"The name of Mao Tse Tung was proposed and despite a heated debate from certain opposition parties, who do not want to see the name of this Chinese dictator on the boards in Tshwane, it was approved," Linde said.

"The DA does not support the inclusion of this name as he was known as a mass murderer, a womaniser, liar and drug baron and that he stood for everything that the South African Constitution does not support."

But the City of Tshwane insisted that he deserved the nomination.

"Mao Tse Tung was a revolutionary in his own right. This is one of the criteria the city used to select the name," spokeswoman Lebogang Matji said.

"While the DA might not like the proposal on the grounds of him being a dictator, they must bear in mind that Andries Pretorius and Paul Kruger were also dictators but the city kept the names with a view of nation building."

This followed a decision taken at the monthly council meeting to add China's Mao Tse Tung to the Tshwane metro names bank.

The names bank is used to name streets, areas and buildings in the municipal area.

Linde said the African National Congress was celebrating the death of nearly 70 million people in China by adding Mao Tse Tung to the name bank.

"Mao Tse Tung was as evil as Hitler and Stalin and he wanted war with Korea, knowing that the Chinese losses would be astronomical."

Mao Tse Tung was a Chinese Communist revolutionary and the founding father of the People's Republic of China.

He was the chairman of the Communist Party of China from its establishment in 1949 until he died in 1976.

Linde said bringing his name into Tshwane would deliberately ignore the years of struggle the country had gone through.

"The DA will never allow the naming of streets or public buildings after Mao Tse Tung, as it is almost as bad as naming places after Barend Strydom, Eugene de Kock or Clive Derby-Lewis," she said.

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Mzabalazo

Why should we name our streets after Chinese leaders? This is not on. You won't find our names in China.

2014-08-29 06:55:08.0 | 2 replies

LBS

Of course it is not on but as we see on a regular basis, the anc treat the S.A'n population with total disrespect and arrogance daily. Mao Tse Tung has all the 'credentials' that they idolize in a dictator..........

2014-08-29 07:27:49.0 | 1 replies

YOUNG.MAN

u talk shit...

2014-08-29 09:59:47.0 | 0 replies

Dandan

People I always urge you to read to capacitate yourself before making any comments , you are educated but your reasoning is shocking , how many streets around the world named after Nelson Mandela, are you nt aware we are living on the 21st century where the world is in global village, black people read stop this mentality of labelling blacks uneducatable

2014-08-29 08:10:11.0 | 1 replies

MommaC

Are you really calling Nelson Mandela a mass murdering, drug dealing dictator?

2014-08-29 08:17:34.0 | 1 replies

Dandan

Since when did you realise Mandela was a human rights activists , wasnt you called him a terrorist , communists, murderer that is rich from you white south africans, Brenda Fassie once said in her song "dont confirm a person"

2014-08-29 08:22:09.0 | 1 replies

MommaC

When did I ever say that? Your gears are slipping, Desperate Dan.

2014-08-29 08:25:21.0 | 1 replies

Dandan

ofcourse since when you white have know Mandela more than black people yet you dont know streets named after him around the world , sies

2014-08-29 08:37:06.0 | 1 replies

MommaC

'since when' I was white? I was born white, you nutcase! Of course I know that Mandela has streets all over. I just can't figure out why you think Mandela was a mass murdering, drug dealing despotic dictator like Chairman Mao!

2014-08-29 08:40:16.0 | 1 replies

Dandan

Mao is far bigger than Mandela MommC far far ahead

2014-08-29 08:47:00.0 | 2 replies

MommaC

Yip. Next street should be named after the Khmer Rouge, Genghis Kan or Hitler. Seems only fair that we give all the murdering baastards the same treatment

2014-08-29 08:51:39.0 | 0 replies

ytieduniS

Dandan - Malema is loved, mao was hated. You apparently have no grasp of history.

2014-08-29 09:04:46.0 | 1 replies

Dandan

How many people called for jesus to be crucified, LMAO so nt even Jesus was loved by all , some worship Devil/Lucifer like yourself

2014-08-29 09:08:16.0 | 2 replies

ytieduniS

Dandan - Jesus did not murder 45 million people in 4 years. Spot the difference.

2014-08-29 09:18:21.0 | 0 replies

MommaC

ummm - you do realise that threatening me with the 'devil' is about as effective as threatening me with the Easter Bunny. I don't believe in either one of them.

2014-08-29 09:27:13.0 | 0 replies

staalin

This is just the beginning. Wait. For example when last did you buy some clothing made in SA? All our clothing people are unemployed now. And so it goes... Showera. Very very soon all our bottle making people will be unemployed and we have a road called Xi street.

2014-08-29 07:50:14.0 | 0 replies

MommaC

??? so Andries Pretorius and Paul Kruger were dictators and Chairman Mao was a saint ??? DAFUQ ??? Which alternate universe do these people live in?

2014-08-29 07:51:44.0 | 0 replies

mgijimi

The ZANC has lost direction,

2014-08-29 08:02:33.0 | 0 replies

BOKKER

They can use the name of the new owners but from now on I refer to nkuntla as Zumagrad

2014-08-29 08:03:56.0 | 1 replies

Dandan

This iwhat you are best at "nkuntla as Zumagrad" nothing intellectual you offer in this forum

2014-08-29 08:11:27.0 | 1 replies

BOKKER

DonkiDee: Nothing interlectural??????????? Now that hurts doot. I am just staying humble because I am in your vast shadow O Mighty Brained Elephant from Msinga.

2014-08-29 08:41:59.0 | 1 replies

Dandan

Since you told me you are EFF how come you dont know Mao Zedong , what political ideology are you adopting , do you have umrhabulo at EFF , very disgraceful with you not knowing Mao , geeese

2014-08-29 08:45:46.0 | 1 replies

BOKKER

Me?? thiEFF??? No sani your Mighty Elephant Brain is confused with all its intellectual activities. Nut let me give you a lesson. Mao was a mighty warlord who used a variant of Leninism, aimed not at mobilising the proletariat but the sub-peasantry, to exterminate his enemies. His murderous regime led to the insanity of the cultural revolution that was a catastrophic and criminal act which set his nation back 30 years. His wife who followed his methods was imprisoned for LIFE as having formed part of the oligarchical GANG of FOUR.When Mao die crowds took to the streets and began to dismantle his hated system of oppression.
Teach your kids that.

2014-08-29 09:02:57.0 | 1 replies

Dandan

But you have already shown a disdain to him what a change , there is saying that says first impression counts a lot , whatever your change is now meaningless to me. You can call me IFP/Msinga whatever but Im more smarter than you evrytime I teach you , I thought so many things "autonomous" "Mao" I will still teach you

2014-08-29 09:13:05.0 | 0 replies

ytieduniS

Andries Pretorius and Paul Kruger were not dictators... Does the ANC not know our history? Are the ANC touched in the head? Nevermind, I know the answer.

2014-08-29 08:05:00.0 | 0 replies

BOKKER

When all else seems hopeless the ZANC master strategy kicks in. Rename a street. Whaaat ? It worked before.

2014-08-29 08:05:41.0 | 1 replies

Dandan

what are you saying , mcxxxm useless blogger

2014-08-29 08:24:04.0 | 1 replies

BOKKER

Dandan I am saying that your party of dunces likes to distract the nation from issues that are important by such outrageous acts of nonsense. This is not 1968 fool. We know what Mao did and did not do. Why should we celebrate him? Must we also have a Stalin, Beria and Trostsky Streets???? A Marx and Engels Boulevard??? No man your stunts will not change anything. HAND OVER SPY TAPES AND PAY THE MONEY.

2014-08-29 08:51:04.0 | 0 replies

Hutton

viva chairman Mao

2014-08-29 08:22:53.0 | 2 replies

BOKKER

Which part of the "Cultural Revolution" do you like best??? The killing of teachers or the re-education camps?

2014-08-29 09:04:53.0 | 1 replies
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2014-08-29 10:08:33.0 | 1 replies

MommaC

Communism is a failed ideology. Pure communism is as toxic as pure capitalism. The 'socialist' form (which is a balance of the two) is a far better system for emerging markets

2014-08-29 10:38:14.0 | 2 replies

Hutton

no ECONOMIC has ever worked anywhere

2014-08-29 11:31:17.0 | 0 replies

Hutton

no ECONOMIC SYSTEM has ever worked anywhere

2014-08-29 11:32:13.0 | 2 replies

BOKKER

Hutton You make me feel very tired. I do not know why.

2014-08-29 12:28:13.0 | 1 replies
2014-08-29 12:40:58.0 | 0 replies

MommaC

You should travel more. Try Canada, France and the Benelux countries

2014-08-29 12:45:51.0 | 1 replies

Hutton

this BOKKER is very stupid with limited knowledge, i suggest he goes back to school.

2014-08-29 13:51:26.0 | 0 replies

montlenyane

good morning pips...! Well I for one don't get the reason behind the name. I know who he is yes...! But I still don't think it is the best idea. I don't think that most of South African know who this guy is.

2014-08-29 08:24:39.0 | 1 replies

Dandan

Stop undermining the intelligents of other people when I was a first year student at UKZN I was introduced to the name as part of urmhabulo I have even thought my 8yr old child about Mao Zedong , if you have a child teach her/him these things thats why we buy them ipads for child development

2014-08-29 08:35:29.0 | 3 replies

ytieduniS

Dandan - Hehehe, which is why your child will be poor and uneducated. Instead of teaching your child about communism, you should teach him about capitalism. Maybe then he/she will be equipped for the future. Otherwise, you are just teaching your child how to be a beggar.

2014-08-29 08:41:53.0 | 1 replies

Dkok

capitalism benefits the manipulators, so before we teach it one needs to level the playing field through other means. capitalism is simply me and only me, fack the rest. it is a good model in a 1st world country not for developing countries

2014-08-29 08:48:57.0 | 2 replies

Dandan

Ooooooh thetha Qabanne thetha !!!! they want us to enslave our kids with these western dinosaurs

2014-08-29 08:56:53.0 | 1 replies

ytieduniS

Dandan - Western dinosaurs compared to eastern dinosaurs (Mao zedung)?

2014-08-29 08:59:10.0 | 0 replies

ytieduniS

Dkok - So, you should teach your kids how to beg instead of teaching them about how investments and the stock exchange works? Capitalism benefits everyone. Even the unemployed folks are benefiting from it here in South Africa. All the government employees are benefiting from it.

2014-08-29 08:58:34.0 | 0 replies

MommaC

Next time you 'thought' your child, please don't forget to mention that he was a nasty, nasty man!

2014-08-29 08:44:20.0 | 1 replies

mgijimi

You are starting lol

2014-08-29 09:28:01.0 | 0 replies

mgijimi

Awu mfana wase Ntuzuma usunendodakazi kanti, kodwa ngiyasola bakudlela abo S.Cold kwathiwa yeyakho

2014-08-29 08:49:17.0 | 1 replies

Dandan

cha noma kunjalo I m communist your child is my child thats how we africans are

2014-08-29 08:58:15.0 | 2 replies

ytieduniS

Dandan - "Im communist your child is my child thats how we africans are" - Hehehe, which explains why 85% of black males abandon their families? Just like ubuntu, its nice to talk about on news forums.

2014-08-29 09:00:21.0 | 1 replies

Dandan

Thats doesnt mean that so better stop interfearing with our cultures

2014-08-29 09:15:36.0 | 1 replies

ytieduniS

Dandan - Capitalism is my culture, why are you trying to interfere?

2014-08-29 09:19:12.0 | 0 replies

MommaC

No. If you are Africanist, then your child is my child. If you are Communist then you have no children as everyone (and everything) belongs to the state.

2014-08-29 09:08:12.0 | 1 replies

Shredder

Thank you for that. Did I teach you that wisdom? Good girl, you are well learned. :)

2014-08-29 09:28:05.0 | 1 replies

MommaC

LOL - yes, master, Grasshopper learned good :)
It is from listening to many people from many different countries

2014-08-29 09:36:16.0 | 0 replies

Dkok

Chairman Mao did great, he was only a dictator when it came to the resistance he encountered amongst the educated people in cities, for the poor people of China he made good changes, women education and the general increase in the schooling population in rural china were all his efforts. People resisted against Mao because his communist party was viewed as an enemy by those city folks who benefited from the purging of the communist by the gorvenment. same gorvenment that cried for his help when the japanese came in.

2014-08-29 08:45:56.0 | 5 replies

Dkok

he encountered resistance from the city capitalists.

2014-08-29 08:52:33.0 | 0 replies

Dandan

Thank u Dkok, then people will tell you what is this , the person isnt known just bona they are lazy to read damn sies , tell them Dkok nt all are lazy to read

2014-08-29 08:53:27.0 | 1 replies

ytieduniS

Dandan - Too lazy to read? How many people did he murder? Tell us.

2014-08-29 09:03:03.0 | 0 replies

MommaC

I think you may have missed out a whole bunch of bloodshed and other nastiness in your short history there.

2014-08-29 08:54:04.0 | 0 replies

ytieduniS

Dkok - The dude k1lled 45 million people in 4 years. Imagine if the same strategies were applied here, murdering people who disagree with you. There wouldnt be any black people left in South Africa.

2014-08-29 09:02:25.0 | 1 replies

Dandan

We are nt going to be blindfolded by your western ideologies the world has changed my man forget , we didnt chose west to be our partners , sorry, there is fresh smell coming from Asia , its life you can live it peacefully . Thats why you even see Putin doesnt give damn about you anymore , told you to take all you pollution with immedaite effect shove it somewhere, there is life in Asia feel it

2014-08-29 09:41:33.0 | 2 replies

ytieduniS

Dandan - Doesnt matter what you think. Im still the one paying taxes and keeping this country afloat. While you wait for your monthly grants.

2014-08-29 09:51:13.0 | 0 replies

ytieduniS

Dandan - Oh, and stating that your hero murdered millions of his own people is not "western idiology", its the fact my son.

2014-08-29 09:51:45.0 | 0 replies

BOKKER

DKok Those of us with a "struggle" history revered the "great" Revolutionary Leaders. We thought that what was said about them was Western propaganda. It wasn't They were murderous tyrants who had only one aim. To stay in power. When Stalin Died when Mao died their own people started to break down their legacy out of hatred for their experiences. Its time to look at history and judge what occurred fairly and honestly. Capitalism is NOT in my opinion the most desirable form of socio/economic relations but least it dilutes the power of the few. The methods of Stalin and Mao reduced the few to even fewer and these were the most ruthless of all.

2014-08-29 09:19:37.0 | 0 replies

Tabeya

They might as well name one of the streets after me, preferably "Tabeya Avenue"

2014-08-29 08:47:26.0 | 0 replies
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