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By Kgothatso Madisa | 2014-08-28 15:03:54.0 |
COMMENTS [ 80 ]
Eff is fighting its battle in court like DA
That is why the ANC hates the courts - they always lose when they get dragged to court.
They must do so but only when THEY start paying their bills. This is not the Yob League anymore.
The opposition gets shouted down in Parliament by Zuma's garden boys hired to clap for him and rubber stamp bullcrap from Lootfreely House. Where do you expect them to fight?
They must appeal and also make sure that the Nkandla idiot is flushed out of government. He must pay our money he stole to build Nkandla.
I think the DA and the other smaller parties must boycott parliament for those 14 days that the EFF is suspended.
the DA is never going to rise for justice for the underdogs did you not see how they responded to the Gaza saga? DA is selective when calling for social justice, they are mini me ANC,they figure that if the EFF is barred they will be busk in parliamentary glory, they don't realise that when anc is done with EFF it will be them on the firing line, you see the DA has delusions of grandeur they imagine themselves big cheeses of SA and are convinced that they will one day be a gov in SA,
Kwaaaaaaaaaa. Where are the effers decrying the tactics as DA thrashed Zupta's skinny rass in front of the bench.
Guptan I think this call is for you. Hehehehehehehehe
winning courts doesnt mean the government is in DA, the President at Union Bldg is black will remain black until Jesus comes , you foolish coloreds of CTown keep on voting your whites , we blacks are nt stupid like coloreds, bought by wine
Since when is thiEFF a white party?? That skokiaan must be properly aged before you drink so much of it mpinchi. That with the stress can kill broer. LOL
Dandan - Maimane for president :P At least we dont elect lying, thieving rapists as our leaders.
Maimane for president? Dude are you for real? we don't want stage managed people to lead us, we already have experience in Zuma, and look what is happening around us.
nothing to laugh about. a real patriotic reasonable man will never encourage the dodging of democratic accountability by deploying majority rule to destroy the hard earned democracy.
Bokker where was this trashing taking place? I wld have love to have seen it, cause the way things stand right now the EFF is fighting solo against anc junta.
No my sister The spytapes are being produced as we speak yet the money for Nkandla is still being debated.( Mind you apparently also without thiEFF in da house). That means they will be outside burning and breaking. Siestog.
Hehehehehe, EFF also using the courts now.
as far as I know black professionals hate DA with passion , you will only be voted by those peanuts of maimane , not us
Dandan - As far as I know, the Gauteng election results proves you wrong :P LOL
that prove you dont know how the elections went through to brief you, in the Suburbs DA didnt get votes thats where black professionals are, DA only increased votes in Soweto , to remind you black professionals are nt only in GP they are all over
there's a huge difference btwn black professional and black tenderprenure the later is a ANC enslaved, just sayin...
Who is herding goats while you are here on sowetanlive spewing rubbish wena Dandahead?
Which church can we use sir?
Katakats Its good thing you ask. With this guys's BP problems I think the end will come suddenly. Not like Shaik and Selebi.
There was no opposition parties in the parliament before Eff enters the door of the parliament.The reason ANC was doing as it likes for 20 years,it's the first time they feel the heat because the baby with manner of a gaint is here.
they have always been using courts, or did you think its a preserve for DA? The EFF lawyer is at the forefront of finding justice for state murdered Marikane victims, you need to have knowledge of how courts operate to facilitate such a process,
Guptanistan1 - The lesson is that the ANC broke parliament a long time ago. EFF thinking they can make a noise and fix everything. Meanwhile, the ANC just bussed in more supporters. EFF restrained themselves yesterday. Anyways, the DA scored 2 victories today, using the courts. Not by making noise.
what victories are you talking about? sorry am not catching on qwuick today, but I seem to have read that the spytapes which the DA has been pursuing for almost if not more than 5yrs has been refused, how is this a victory?
Guptan the reisntatement of 12 councillors reinstated in Oudtshoorn after ZANC tried to hijack the council there. That plus the spytapes is 2 wins in two days. I wonder what tomorrow will bring. But keep banging your hat if it makes you feel good.
BOKKER - I forgot about outshoorn. 3 wins in 1 day :P
Guptanistan1 - You read the report wrong. The DA won the spytapes case. Zuma has 5 days to hand over the UNEDITED tape, and all documents surrounding it. And the other case was against etolls today.
Guptanistan1 - Im laughing because yesterday we were told that the DA is a useless opposition. Today, even EFF is singing their praises. Its comical.
where is the EFF singing praises for the DA? which article please? the reason many see DA as useless ist hat they had 20yrs to be formidable and effective opposition, all they can manage is ukugxwala emswaneni.
Guptanistan1 - Can follow the EFF leaders on twitter. I will give you some quotes: Dilinja1 @NkululekoMantsh - "Well the DA has good SC's in their circle, and they did a good job and @helenzille deserves a Pat on the Back for her part."
In 20 years DA grew from a small party with big ideas into a large party with great ones. In the same time ZANC started to break like an old man's tooth. If it was not for Malema and his sidekicks in the Yob league Zupta would have been finished and so would the Arms deal saga and with it the anc. Now Without Malema that gang will soon be gone. So sadly it was malema who retarded the process of death of Zanc and gave it added years. For this he will be appropriately remembered n due course.
ANC is in a who judge the judge situation, who will suspend them when lying to Parly, involved in corrupt activities even initiating disorder in the parly trying to avoid accountability. IT is a pity that with little education, ppl enjoy the misuse of majority vote for selected few enrichment and poor service and food parcels to the masses.
FLIP !! they should have been suspended for 2 months, these cretins !!
You dislike EFF, we all get that by now Whizz. Focus on the court challange instead and whether the ANC is not abusing their power by trying to silence EFF and their demands.
Dzel, I don't dislike them, they must just act like mature politicians in parly, without breaking the rules...
anc breaks parliamentary rules all the time, with their absent ministers, refusal to answer questions etc and casue you are benefitting from the tenderpreneuring ship you expect us to smile and be okay with anc beign unable to provide leadership for our country?
You dislike them and it obvious for all to see, when it comes to EFF you make up your mind first and only do you look at the merits of the case. The only recourse they have in this case is to get an urgent interdict against the suspensions.
The fact that no current law allows the ANC to suspend them explains why this superficial ANC move when, only the courts can prevent this blatant abuse of power. All these moves are predictable, NPA's Nxasana challenged Zuma to court when he threatened to suspend him and Zuma withdrew his absurd "write me a letter or face suspension" strategy tail between his legs and now they are "negotiating"... that's SA for you and this is how the ANC exercises its power when they have nothing else to use to bully people around.
The ANC's actions are predictable; they don't have legal basis to suspend EFF MP's so this letter of apology effectively, an instrument to get EFF to submit itself to ANC's authority and numbers in parliament is a back-door attempt to make their actions look legal.
EFF predictably will not allow itself to be bullied so they will challenge this in court.
The outcome is also predictable; the ANC will be reprimanded as they acts are illegal. The ANC is hoping the courts are going to be bullied yet again and rule that separation of power allows the ANC to decide what to do in parliament; I hope our courts grow balls and make the important calls.
I have not seen or read said letter, did they demand EFF to apologise for asking Zuma to pay back tax payers money he unduly benefitted from? If that's the case then its depressive that they can even imagine that this behaviour is acceptable.
Go to hell whiz...while u at it say hi to your fellow europeans
please don't be offensive to Europeans like that, they have their own shortcomings but whizz is not one of them, whiz is anc SA slimeball just like zuma.
Guptan, I'm not ANC, or any party, like have stated before. Btw, keep your insults to yourself please.
In all fairness, Whizz is AgangSA - he just recently served Mamphele with divorce papers :). Ain't that so Whizz
lol so he must not call on EFF to succumb to anc bully tactics all the EFF wants from anc is for zuma to give spefics as when tax payers money abused for Nkandla will be paid back, the hackling was normal process arising from beign frustrated at president's being vague about critical issue of importance.
That was not "normal" guptan, come on, it's the first time since 94 that the police had to be called into parly. What do think Madiba would have said about EFF, after what happened hmmm, he would have been disgusted, I bet you.
What is surprising is that the ZANC's Johnny de Lange once bliksemmed FF+ Manie Schoeman in Parliament, Baleka was the deputy speaker while Frene Ginwala was the Speaker. They did nothing. Furthermore, what most South Africans who are bemoaning the EFFers' behaviour have not seen is how Ukrainian MPs, Venezualans, Nigerians, Russians and many other MPs actually give each other black eyes right in Parliament in front of the glare of cameras. Life goes on afterwards. What the EFFers did is just a school picnic.
Yip, we both moved on :)
Speaker of Parliament Baleka Mbete is an useless speaker who is failing to do her job properly. Maybe she have an affair with Zuma
YOOO Mafrex your Avatar, is that pic of Wesley Snipes? lol but that guy knew how to do ugly and feel no remorse about it...
Do ugly and feel no remorse about it... LOL, yah neh... niyasikhuluma isilungu boGupta... LOL.
Those letters are procedurally wrong. People have already been told they are going to be suspended - I.e., they are guilty until they prove themselves innocent! Here's to hoping the ZANC loses. Zuma must have no time to sleep.
yes,Malema knows the strategy of ZANC,THEY WANT TO DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE WHILE THE EFF IS STILL ON SUSPENSION
ZUMA IS GONNA HANG HIMSELVE.....HE THOUGHT MAYB BY FLASHIMG JUJU HE WILL BE HAPPY, BUT UNFORTUNATELY JUJU CAME BACK STRONGER THAN BEFORE
LOVL @this avatar and the msg entailed...lol you wanna give zuma heartattack, lol
HIS CANT ABSORB THE PRESSURE AT ALL
LOL AT MAFREX
Who actually suspend them, is it the ANC or parliament which compress of ANC members only. Eiiiishhhhhh this GVNMNT is a joke serious. It is good that the EFF is taking the matter to a neutral institution.
AFFAIR WITH ZUMA, dO U think his AK47 CAN STIILL SHOOT?
Yebo,they are suspended by the ANC using the name of parliament....I dnt think COPE,UDM,IFP doesnt want to know the truth,they are behind EFF
All to protect one skelem from answering a legitimate question. How did the ANC sink so low?
and why are people like Trevor Manuel, Mathews Phosa, Tokyo, Ex Doctor Jordan, Ben Turok, Fatima Meer keeping so quiet? Surely they should stand up on principle and demand that Zuma steps down?
are there any ANC members left with integrity or are they all busy robbing us blind?
possibly they themselves are corrupted, if you speak up as anc they dig dirt on you, look what they did to Pallo Jordan? look what they are doing to Malema, the ANC has a Mugabe syndrome.
What has happened to anyone who has even thought about questioning Zuma? Every one of the people you have mentioned has had their political career yanked out from under him (oh, and Phosa is a political tart - he will kiss any behind that keeps his bread buttered)
LoL @Phosa being a political tart, to think how I used to adore him.
And the fact remains,ANC members fought EFF members when they went out,why are they not suspended too?
but, I am repeating des,If they continue like this, they will win the elections for the last time with very low percentage in 2019 ,come 2024,they will be totally out of power.....I mean,even ANC veterans are not happy the way ANC is handling things and they say ,they didnt go to Robben Island for this,their comrades are misrepresentinng them,.......Majority is not happy with ANC as we speak,some MP also doesnt like Zuma but they just dnt have choice than to dance to his music coz they cant say it
You know, ever since after the elections (May 2014), nothing constructive (by our nationalparties) has been done. They promised to deliver on services but that's ot happening. Instead, they dragging each other in and out of court. To me it's like individuals are on personal missions instead of serving the nation.
In addition to this, our money as tax payers just continues to be wasted on unnecessary resources, as if these corrupt politicians are not chaoing it. It is bad.... Lord have mercy... this country is going down unless the leadership style changes. It has got nothing to do with which party rules but the LEADERSHIP style.
If this anc posturing and bullying of EFF fails I see them murdering Malema cause they are convinced that he is the problem to them, all this hoo haa to divert attention from Nkandla I wonder how long will it take the anc to inact a law which makes mentioning word Nkandla illegal, the anc is trying desperately to dowse out fires of discontent by the citizens against the gov, remember the measures they went through to prevent ppl from booing Zuma, so when EFF hackled him they reminded him of the booing at the stadium which was the most shameless moment of zuma's presidency, the problem also is that these creatures demand respect which they have not earned, how can we be forced/coerced to respect ppl stealing from us?
suspended for asking Mr ShowerHead when is he paying the money? Ok, I guess he is above the law n policies his party set up!!
ofcourse he is above the law, him and his family and his bunch of bandits, was it not just last week that his son didn't pitch in court for killing someone and injurying others in a wreckless and possibly DUI? Nothing will happen to htat rat, as nothing happens to khulubuse who is declaring tax but is said to be prancing around with 20mil worth gold bricks.
we SAns were betrayed by the 62% that voted anc for the continuation of this anc arrogant thievery.
@Guptanistan1 its fine let him b de man of de match for now but wait until his cronies stop defending him, he is going to pay for all the scandals, watch n C!!
One journalist asked security cluster whether the EFF is security risk in parly and she fail to answer....Kwaaaaaaaaaa ANC Kwaaaaaaaa
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