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We cannot stand by as 'democracy is undermined': Mapisa -Nqakula

By Sowetan Live | Aug 26, 2014 | COMMENTS [ 264 ]

The Justice Crime and Prevention Cluster (JCPS) led by Mapisa -Nqakula today addressed the media on the ‘staged protest’ by EFF members in Parliament.

‘All citizens of the country whilst exercising their rights must do so within the confines of the law,’ said Minister of Defence and Military Veterans, Nosiviwe Mapisa –Nqakula during a media briefing on the on the disruptions that unfolded in parliament last week.

Mapisa – Nqakula said that the JCPS had decided to take action as they could ‘not stand idle as democracy was undermined in full glare of the public and world’.

“There is no doubt that South Africans were disgusted with what happened in Parliament,” she said.

“This incident was the first of its kind in the 20 years of our democracy.”

Police Minister Nathi Nhleko told reporters that effective plans had been put in place to deal with such incidents in the future.

Hleko also admitted to calling the police on Thursday, adding that they had exercised a lot of restraint in dealing with protestors.

The Q&A session of the media briefing became a little heated when journalists questioned the security cluster’s involvement in the parliamentary matter.

“Are we being told that the EFF is a security risk, one journalist asked.

“You are seeking to create controversy,” Mapisa-Nqakula shot back.

Mapisa-Nqakula said the cluster recognised the independence of Parliament but could not stand by as “democracy is undermined”.

Mapisa-Nqakula stated that parliament was conducting its own investigation on the matter and that the role of security ministers was only for analysis of the event and to deal with security measures to be put in place.

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MommaC

You left out that she said they will 'face the full might of the law'. That be fighting talk. I don't see waving a red flag at that particular bull as being a good idea

Aug 26, 2014 9:58 | 1 replies

Guptanistan1

LOL 'waving flag at particular red bull' red being operative word, lol cause basically EFF wears red and are like a raging bull of parly lol ooh MC you really should consider stand up comedy, girl you are good!!

Aug 26, 2014 10:26 | 0 replies

Nkasegobotsesephirise

But MP are oppressed and supressed! Views are undermined.

Aug 26, 2014 9:59 | 2 replies

maneater

Nkase this woman should just tell her leader to PAY THE MONEY and there will be no problems!!

Aug 26, 2014 10:46 | 0 replies

Nkwesheng!!

What surprise me is yesterday MKMV openly declared war with everything at their disposal in this same democracy, and she did not see open declaration of war by unofficial army inside our country, as a threat to our democracy.People see this things.

Aug 26, 2014 12:55 | 0 replies

Mr.Rise

It looks like the war is coming. I wonder which side will the army take...

Aug 26, 2014 10:1 | 2 replies

BOKKER

What army? LOL

Aug 26, 2014 10:5 | 0 replies

s.cold

YAHHHHH WE WILL SEE WHO IS GOING TO WIN,,,WE WILL TAKE EVERYTHING AND GIVE IT TO MAZULU,,,,FUKC OTHERS NGOBA NIYAPHAPHA,,,,WHO CAN FIGHT WITH US,,,DO YOU THINK MALEMA CLUSTER CAN CHALLENGE JZ CLUSTER WANYELA

Aug 26, 2014 10:6 | 2 replies

RobinX

HA HA HA HA HA> Are you seriously talking violence here?

Aug 26, 2014 10:48 | 1 replies

s.cold

MR RISE STARTED

Aug 26, 2014 12:55 | 0 replies

Touch2020

@S.Cold=== What happened in Kokstad yesterday???? Not every Zulu, myself inculded, supports Zuma's corrupt administration...

Aug 26, 2014 11:3 | 1 replies

s.cold

I DO NOT EITHER,,BUY THEY MUST TALK ABOUT FIGHT,,SO WENA YOULL BE FIGHTING OTHER ZULUS,,,UYAHLANYA SIZOKUSHISA KANYE NOMNDENI WAKHO

Aug 26, 2014 12:52 | 1 replies
Aug 26, 2014 12:54 | 0 replies

Mr.Rise

One thing ANC is forgeting is that Julius likes war. He will be very happy if they declare war with him...

Aug 26, 2014 10:2 | 1 replies

ytieduniS

Mr.Rise - Julius likes to talk about war, but when it comes, he will be hiding underneath winnies skirt again.

Aug 26, 2014 11:29 | 0 replies

s.cold

SHAKE A TIGERS TAIL TOO OFTEN, MALEMA, AND IT IS GOING TO BITE YOU HARD MY BOY.

Aug 26, 2014 10:2 | 1 replies

Nkwesheng!!

Which tiger where? You rather let the tiger take all your chickens to feed itself and its children in peace? Very brave for someone who speak brave on many things like you.

Aug 26, 2014 11:1 | 1 replies

s.cold

IM ALSO AGAINST MOST OF THE THINGS U JZ AZENZAYO BUT AKAHLONISHWE MUDALA,,,THATS IT

Aug 26, 2014 12:58 | 1 replies

Nkwesheng!!

Ukuzihlonipha leads to ukuhlonishwa malome s.banda. That is the easiest and cheapest way to achieve ukuhlonishwa without paying hundreds of enforcers.

Aug 26, 2014 1:35 | 1 replies

s.cold

TRUE THAT MY BROER

Aug 26, 2014 2:28 | 0 replies

Whiz

Ban EFF for 6 months, from parly. That will teach them !!

Aug 26, 2014 10:4 | 4 replies

grunt

Whiz, tel your friggin president to stop lying and stealing our money first.

Aug 26, 2014 10:8 | 1 replies

Whiz

Grunt, what EFF did was undemocratic in parly, you fool. I'm also waiting for answers...Even the DA said it was wrong what they did, and that the ad-hok committie will deal with it !!

Aug 26, 2014 10:23 | 3 replies

Guptanistan1

No Whiz their actions are a borne from frustrations at us the citizens not getting the resolutions in respect of Nkandla, the anc is building rings around Thuli (PP) the ONLY body supposed to protect public interests, the EFF was there to represent dissenting voice in respect of Nkandla,

Aug 26, 2014 10:24 | 1 replies

Morathata

Guptanistan1--- You are not happy about something, be it a response from the pres, you don't throw your toys out of the pram...

Aug 26, 2014 10:36 | 0 replies

RobinX

CRAP. I am no supporter of EFF BUT when the state consistently ignores the most basic democratic principles, then people have to rebel. SIMPLE.

Aug 26, 2014 10:49 | 1 replies

Morathata

RobinX--- Which basis democratic principle are you referring to???

Aug 26, 2014 10:59 | 1 replies

RobinX

"basic"..... If you can't figure that out there is simply no hope for you. Work it out.

Aug 26, 2014 11:18 | 0 replies

Touch2020

@Whiz=== Nkandla ad hoc committee is as follows: 6 members from zANC, 2 members from DA, 1 member from EFF and, 1 member representing the rest of the smaller parties... And this to me is a real FARCE... Anything to add???

Aug 26, 2014 11:6 | 1 replies

Whiz

That's how democracy works you fool. Majority will always have the upper hand ( don't say I'm ANC because, I'm not ). When the opposition win more votes in elections, they will have a stronger hand. That's how democracy is.

Aug 26, 2014 11:15 | 1 replies

Touch2020

Was there any reason to insult me mdidi kanyoko???

Aug 26, 2014 12:4 | 1 replies

Whiz

Then don't ask me a stupid question dude. See my finger !!

Aug 26, 2014 12:17 | 0 replies

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

They'll regret that,we will go in the streets/roads/shops/ any place in this country then they will start feeling the heat.

Aug 26, 2014 10:9 | 1 replies

Whiz

Kata, you just got a big mouth dude. No action...

Aug 26, 2014 10:27 | 1 replies

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

What's happening in the parliament isnt an action Whiz?

Aug 26, 2014 11:17 | 0 replies

MommaC

You can't fight dissent by banning it. Apartheid government tried that and it backfired spectacularly. If we are going to ban EFF for disrupting parliament, then we have to ban ANC for protecting Zuma. By the time we are finished banning everyone who is behaving like a twit, there will be nobody in parliament.

Aug 26, 2014 10:17 | 3 replies

Guptanistan1

how quickly they have become new apartheid these bloody fools, makes me ashamed that I was ever anything to do with anc. BTW guys did you read Juju's comments about white police, hilarious!

Aug 26, 2014 10:23 | 2 replies

ManoftheSoil

Whats soo hilarious about his comments...?? I thought he was your Hero,especially after that stunt he pulled in Parliament , your likes enjoy distruction and chaos.

Aug 26, 2014 10:35 | 0 replies

MommaC

You have no idea how often I watch the news and wonder what year it is. Too often it is almost exactly the same news as we had in 1985.

Aug 26, 2014 10:41 | 1 replies

RobinX

F U K K ING FASCISTS RATTLING SILLY LITTLE SABRES!

Aug 26, 2014 10:50 | 1 replies

MommaC

???? en toe ???

Aug 26, 2014 11:1 | 2 replies

RobinX

En toe net mooi fokol soos mens van die patetiese lot verwag.

Aug 26, 2014 11:17 | 1 replies

MommaC

Tjo! Who stuck a burr under your saddle today?

Aug 26, 2014 12:58 | 2 replies

Whiz

he's got one everyday...

Aug 26, 2014 1:5 | 0 replies

Shredder

Kikikiki. I wonder where mgijimi is.

Gijima mgijimi, do you understand Afrikaans? Check out MommaC. LOL

Aug 26, 2014 2:56 | 0 replies

Whiz

Suck he's toe *confused*

Aug 26, 2014 11:19 | 1 replies

RobinX

ANd you know where to stick that finger don't you.

Aug 26, 2014 11:30 | 1 replies

Whiz

In your face !!

Aug 26, 2014 11:38 | 1 replies

RobinX

Ja sure. Go for it my outjie.

Aug 26, 2014 11:53 | 0 replies

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

The fight is not against the parliament,it's agaisnt ANC.Cant you see that they'ce turned parliamnet into Lethuli House where none ANC dont have a voice.

Aug 26, 2014 11:19 | 0 replies

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

What about those show pushes us to act like twits,you'll leave them,ban both ANC and EFF.

Aug 26, 2014 12:15 | 0 replies

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

ANC took its conflicts with its ex-youth league and brought them inside the parliament,they cannt use the parliament to sort their differences with EFF.There's no other parties that are against EFF members in the parliament except ANC,cannt you that?

Aug 26, 2014 11:43 | 0 replies

BOKKER

Ja fat lady I see you are getting ready to sing. Just rememember next time when you cook with snakes expect to get bitten.

Aug 26, 2014 10:4 | 0 replies

Mshovekahle

Mapisa – Nqakula said that the JCPS had decided to take action as they could ‘not stand idle as democracy was undermined in full glare of the public and world’ xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Democracy is being undermined by zuma himself

Aug 26, 2014 10:6 | 0 replies

grunt

Ag sies man, I cannot stand this hypocrisy - it is your president that is undermining democracy on a daily basis, and by not speaking out you and the rest of the cabinet are complicit. Fat, greedy leeches and parasites.

Aug 26, 2014 10:7 | 0 replies

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

“There is no doubt that South Africans were disgusted with what happened in Parliament,” ====We're not,we want more.What rights are you talking about Nosiviwe,the ones you have for being a Minister of Defence and Military Veterans simply because you were a comrade.

Aug 26, 2014 10:8 | 0 replies

Mshovekahle

There is no doubt that South Africans were disgusted with what happened in Parliament,” she said. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Yes we were disgusted by zuma failer to respond when is he going to pay the money

Aug 26, 2014 10:8 | 2 replies

Morathata

How much must he pay, you kknow????

Aug 26, 2014 10:39 | 0 replies

Dandan

How many times are you told money isnt going to be paid by Zuma why were you so foolish was it Zuma who was buying the material for R4m instead of R4k, you are so foolish supporting a stupid commending white police man

Aug 26, 2014 11:21 | 0 replies