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SA most unequal society: Madonsela

By Sapa | Aug 18, 2014 | COMMENTS [ 129 ]

South Africa is one of the most unequal societies in the world, Public Protector Thuli Madonsela said.

In a speech delivered at the University of Stellenbosch on Saturday, Madonsela said the country was one of the most unequal society despite the constitutional promises which include the substantive notion of equality.

"Compounding the situation is that poverty and unemployment have worsened and also the fact that, that too follows the contours of racial, gender and other forms of structural inequality or discrimination."

She said as long as there was injustice somewhere, the country and the world could not have peace.

"We may not be paragons of non-discrimination as that is impossible [given that we are] products of a society where the hierachisation of difference is entrenched through socialisation from birth," she said.

"All we need to do is play our part in our respective spaces as earnestly as possible."

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ytieduniS

The product of 20 years of incompetence and corruption. Of cadre enrichment. Of selling the country out for money.

Aug 18, 2014 7:26 | 1 replies

BOKKER

Its not inequality its just that some pigs are so much more equal than others.The disgusting looting of the state by the Zuptanoids carried shoulder high by the masses whose broken lives form a heap the size of a mountain.

Hey BAWS!!!! Where is the story aboout our new Ambassador to Netherlands. None other than the Zupta Plane Guard Bruce Koloane. FARRRRRRRKen idddddddiots.

Aug 18, 2014 9:38 | 1 replies

Morathata

Both SIN & BOKKER!!! You speak of 20 yrs. and of Zupta. South Africa has been unequal since both of you were born. Unequal society was created and maintained by a white person who never even embraced the notion of inclusivity. Since beginning of democracy the DP, before it became DA, was opposed to transformation that was preached by Mandela. Today, they claim Mandela was the most progressive leader Sa has ever seen. I call this hypocrisy, wena?

Aug 18, 2014 10:53 | 1 replies

BOKKER

Mo'rats.Unequal society was balready there when uShaka speared his neighbours children. Or when that central african warlord your grandfathers ran away from decided to take your women and children as slaves. It wasnt invented 100 years ago. Nor was it invented in SA. It has however taken the local pigs only 20 years to perfect it.

Aug 18, 2014 11:29 | 1 replies

Morathata

Bokker.. Shaka was born in 1787 and died 1828. If you are refereeing the fighting of Shaka era, then you are also correct to say it all started when a white man entered the picture in Africa. Do you have any history of fighting in Africa before 1652?

Aug 18, 2014 12:2 | 1 replies

oldlady12

Morathata, really now? You can't be THAT naive.

Aug 18, 2014 12:34 | 0 replies

Shredder

It's the legacy of apartheid Sinudeity.

Aug 18, 2014 7:27 | 3 replies

ytieduniS

Shredder - There is only so much you can blame on apartheid. Like the article states, unemployment and poverty has worsened. The cadres dont want a 1,000 new millionaires, they want themselves to rather be billionaires. Compound the issues, with 20 years of cadres who dont know what they are doing. Like Fransman spending R10 billion, because he doesnt know how to do his job.

Aug 18, 2014 7:33 | 1 replies

Shredder

What you have mentioned in your first comment is true also what I have mentioned is true. Those two go together. One is a result of another. We have to tell the truth.

Aug 18, 2014 7:39 | 1 replies

ytieduniS

Shredder - Allright, I will agree with your comment.

Aug 18, 2014 7:43 | 0 replies

ytieduniS

Shredder - Would also like to include how the ANC has been messing up and chopping and changing the education system for the past 20 years. Which is also a great factor in inequality. Now SADTU has taken over the system, and selling positions for money.

Aug 18, 2014 7:41 | 0 replies

MthimbanaT

That's correct Shredder: the fact that ALL ANC leaders, their kids, families and friends are now multimillionaires based on BEE and shares which they own in mining and other companieswhile their voters and ordinary rank and file members are living in RDP houses and shacks, on social grants, unemployed and dirt poor is the legacy of apartheid.

Aug 18, 2014 8:36 | 0 replies

UnbiasedCitizen

This inequality gap in our republic needs to be narrowed, while some are complaining about fatty food they eat in parliament some goes 3 days without food. Complain about the standard of accommodation you are offered by the state some wish the night not to come. The power of the few,some are brave enough to rob the system of tax payers money, Tenders will remain the main setback of our economic growth, the more people you know (rich people) at a higher place the more tenders you get. the lesser people you know (Poor people) more you get nothing

Aug 18, 2014 7:31 | 0 replies

staalin

Society is a work in progress, need to create jobs at a rate faster than the rate people are being born. Unemployment really skews things. At each level in the job market supply and demand sets the price and over supply keeps the salaries down. With trading partners like the rest of the BRICS one competes on goods, look at clothing all from china for eg, if we want to compete the salaries and productivity levels must be comparable, Or the people remain unemployed. QUALITY education and JOB creation are absolutely KEY to fixing this. How are we doing in SA on those two fronts ZUMA and MOTSHEKGA?

Aug 18, 2014 7:47 | 0 replies

Whiz

I blame bling. Nobody in gov want to do their jobs honestly, and properly.

Aug 18, 2014 7:47 | 0 replies

SOLUTIONS2

How many zimbos are in SA taking our locals jobs

Aug 18, 2014 7:57 | 0 replies

lule

But Sin 20 years is not like a strategic decision (merger or takeover),can you transform a Country within a space of 20 years.you really like to say 20 years but consider the centuries before 20 years.....trying to bring equality in just 20 years is highly not possible.someone born 20 years ago hasnt yet finished University mind you.

Aug 18, 2014 8:12 | 5 replies

oldlady12

lule, one cannot transform a country such as ours in 20 yrs, BUT, after 20 yrs the gap between rich & poor is supposed to be getting much smaller, instead of much bigger, as has been happening the past 20 yrs. And for that, one cannot blame apartheid.

Aug 18, 2014 8:15 | 0 replies

ytieduniS

lule - We have a black millionaire who yells "F** the poor".

Aug 18, 2014 8:19 | 0 replies

staalin

On transformation, the whites are only 10 of the population so if they were all not working tomorrow and all position filled by blacks. 100% transformed there is still the question of the other 90%. The problem is the whole economy needs to grow that's the answer. At the moment its shrinking in real terms with jobs losses.

Aug 18, 2014 8:20 | 0 replies

Warren

In 20 years,this country would have gained a lot more mileage in terms of betterment of the poor's lives if we were not carrying a dead load of more than 3million of your free loading Zimbo azzes weighing our economy down Mr Kwerekwere.

Aug 18, 2014 10:28 | 1 replies

Morathata

Warren! I hope you a re not refereeing to Africans as Kwerekwere....

Aug 18, 2014 11:16 | 1 replies

Warren

Do I have a referee's whistle in my mouth Mr referee? Anyway azzhole of any colour that enters our country illegally and takes employment,medicines,electricity,grants and other services from South Africans,is a fvcken kwerekwere. African or not. In fact Africans constitute the majority of those that fit the description. Who do you think is hanging the urine smelling blankets and untidy washing defacing our cities? Who defaces our cities with stupid stickers selling witchcraft and backdoor abortions? Is it not those African kwerekweres of yours?

Aug 18, 2014 11:36 | 1 replies

Warren

Your African n.igerian brothers are killing our youth with their drugs in every corner of our country and their thieving azzes are stealing from hardworking South Africans and all you can say is that they are African? If you like them with all that crap of theirs, go to their countries, do not invite their azzes here ans don't give us that African crap just because you benefit from their drug money.

Aug 18, 2014 11:40 | 0 replies

nickster2

Lule - If you go to a little place called Peru. There is an inspirational president there who has managed to completely turn a country, (which by all rights was worse of than SA socio politically and economically.) completely around. In just 2 years !!! 2 years !!!!! All he needed was 2 years and he ha brough that country back from the abyss. Lessons in this - I think so. 2 years !!! no 20

Aug 18, 2014 3:39 | 0 replies

Dandan

Thuli you start to be an enemy of DA and White SAfricans with that topic, please shift to Corruption you will be darling

Aug 18, 2014 8:17 | 3 replies

oldlady12

Dandan, why would whites be uncomfortable with that topic? Methink most whites would love for the gap to get smaller & smaller. Then more & more people will be paying more & more taxes, and things will go better and better. Stop thinking in terms of pulling whites down, and start thinking in terms of uplifting blacks, then you'll see the light.

Aug 18, 2014 8:27 | 3 replies

Sugarfree

I agree with you Oldlady

Aug 18, 2014 8:32 | 1 replies

Whiz

Me too, I agree OL.

Aug 18, 2014 8:40 | 0 replies

RobinX

He simply is unable to think in any other terms.

Aug 18, 2014 8:57 | 0 replies

Morathata

@ Oldlady...""""Methink most whites would love for the gap to get smaller & smaller""". What is it that white people are doing to back up your statement. Whites are untiSA. Anything proposed by anybody other than a white person is a no no. Now they have messed up African bank after giving themselves urge bonuses and shares.... Remember African Bank was started by a white man and wholly supported by BLACKS....

Aug 18, 2014 11:22 | 2 replies

MommaC

??? huh ???

Aug 18, 2014 11:34 | 0 replies

oldlady12

Morathata, only you can believe your own fairy tales.

Aug 18, 2014 12:41 | 0 replies

MommaC

I also agree with Old Lady.
White people may not be nicest people in the world but we are practical. More equality means lower taxes, higher service delivery, more growth and lower crime. It is also what would be best for our country - believe it or not, even white people are passionate about our country

Aug 18, 2014 9:0 | 0 replies

Warren

Only idiots will keep trying to use white South Africans to divert attention from their fvckup of more than 5million Black foreigners who are imposed on South African citizen's pockets through rising costs of every commodity in this country.

Aug 18, 2014 10:33 | 0 replies

GHEEBUCKS

staalin I agree with you when say jobs needs to be created faster than the rate people are been born, but how can jobs be created faster then the rate people are been born when the government is incouraging people to make babies and the gov. will give you every month R250.00 for the child and the parents take same money and go and buy booze parents are constantly on drugs. Government allow zimbos to come into the country get pregnant and boom here is another South African qualifying for the R250.00 TAX PAYERS MONIES.

Aug 18, 2014 8:20 | 2 replies

Dandan

#Stalin & GHEEBUCKS, you both wrong the direction the country is taking is to have people with FET skills eg bricklaying,plumbing,tiling,welding, etc so to employ themselves than to look for employment, if you can start listening to Dr Blade Nzimande you will solve the problem otherthan pushing hatred with him

Aug 18, 2014 8:31 | 1 replies

staalin

Dandan the type of skills that you describe are perfect, to for people to fulfil their own dreams. But they need to function in a growing economy that can allow them to work. The numbers of bricklayers etc produced (through birth etc) exceeds the rate at wich they can be employed. Sadly we see them sitting (with all sorts of skills) on street corners all over. Eg people would like to extend their houses or build their houses but cannot afford and so on.

Aug 18, 2014 8:42 | 1 replies

Dandan

Lol, are you telling us evrybody is a bricklayer, even all can be bricklayers the demand is still huge taking into account building of RDP houses, huge purchase of vehicles that need welding. Stop being misled by these Zimbabweans with placards claiming to be plumbers etc those are nt SAfricans my man

Aug 18, 2014 1:28 | 0 replies

Dkok

@Gheebuck. the gov is not encouraging people to make more babies, the gov has issued free condoms and other free contraceptives. what u are saying is equall to saying let those already in poverty starve to death. Grants are an immediate solution in trying to eleviate poverty, while education will be the long term and sustainable solution. the truth is someone needs help today

Aug 18, 2014 9:48 | 1 replies

BOKKER

It is JUJU who is encouraging more babies. But the govern ot is paying people to have them.

Aug 18, 2014 10:16 | 0 replies

Sugarfree

Inequality as part of SA's triple challenges is a product of Apartheid, people need to do proper research on how these came about and stop making uninformed noise!

Aug 18, 2014 8:28 | 0 replies

lule

No blame game Oldlady,i was just trying to argue with Sin that what he sees over a 20 year period cannot be realistic,now if you say the gap has to shrink i agree with you.Black SA have to take advantage of policies such as BEE,then by now Education should be sound as it is the backbone of Economical Development and poverty alleviation.

Aug 18, 2014 8:29 | 2 replies

ytieduniS

lule - I agree with your argument. Cant expect apartheid to be reversed in 20 years time. If we look ahead 20 years, what do we expect to see? Growth, or conditions worsening? What we do today, will determine what 20 years from now looks like. Going by its current state, Im concerned.

Aug 18, 2014 8:56 | 2 replies

Dkok

given this type of responce from u ol' friend, i know its gonna be a great week

Aug 18, 2014 9:44 | 1 replies

ytieduniS

Dkok - Hehe. Just for you boss.

Aug 18, 2014 9:57 | 0 replies

staalin

certainly as people we should preserve the facilities we have built so that we can go further, burning clinics, libraries and schools down certainly does not help the cause. other countries these facilities stay standing and then something else can be built to aid the people, here we continually rebuild stuff...

Aug 18, 2014 9:46 | 0 replies

MommaC

I don't think any reasonable person expected us to be completely equal after only 20 years. Everyone did expect it to become more equal though. We aren't going towards equality, we are actually becoming LESS equal.

Education is important but, I think, changing the 'slave mentality' is even more important.

Aug 18, 2014 9:16 | 1 replies

staalin

where on earth is there an equal society? It does not exist. It is a concept to aspire to. We have to accept this because it is a reality, not all people are equally pretty, intelligent or athletic etc. not in any society or community on the face of the earth. therefor it is up to each individual to strive to be their best

Aug 18, 2014 9:43 | 1 replies

MommaC

You cannot have a completely equal society but, you can aspire to be more like the Scandinavian countries rather than the likes of Indiia. People have different skill sets. The idea is to find which skill set is theirs and make it work for them. My son is never going to be a translator and my daughter is never going to be able to add two numbers without the use of a calculator. Does that make one less than the other? Both skill sets are needed and both skill sets are valuable.

Aug 18, 2014 9:51 | 1 replies

staalin

100% correct. if one sits with an attitude "life owes me because I was born" life owes nobody anything... and also sitting with a victim complex blaming everything and anything around is also not going to work. Sure political parties harp on stuff to be seen as "the answer", but at the end of the day each person needs to push with their own skill sets, and change the way they look at the world.

Aug 18, 2014 11:20 | 1 replies

MommaC

.... but life does owe you the ability to find those skill sets and the tools to use them.

Aug 18, 2014 11:34 | 1 replies

staalin

Debatable I think, as the search is a result of trying all sorts of activities both formal and informal, preferrably legal.

Aug 18, 2014 12:59 | 0 replies