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Mandela love children seek estate recognition

By Sapa | Feb 10, 2014 | COMMENTS [ 90 ]

Two people apparently fathered by late former president Nelson Mandela have sought to be acknowledged by his estate, an attorney dealing with Mandela's will said.

Family representatives of Onica Mothoa and Mpho Pule contacted Michael Katz, one of two attorneys appointed by the estate's executors to handle matters surrounding Mandela's will.

Katz confirmed on Sunday evening that he had been contacted, with Mothoa and Pule's representatives claiming both were fathered by Mandela when he was still married to his first wife Evelyn Mase.

TV programme Carte Blanche reported on Sunday night that the pair's lawyers had approached the Master of the High Court to stop the division of funds as directed by Mandela's will, from his estate.

Deputy Chief Justice Dikgang Moseneke told reporters in Johannesburg last Monday that the provisional assessment of Mandela's estate was about R46 million.

"The amount, which excludes royalties accrued over time, is still to be verified," Moseneke said.

The will was first written in 2004 and last amended in 2008.

Katz said the two women sought to be recognised by Mandela's estate, and did not seek any money.

Katz said he would meet with the executors of Mandela's estate to discuss the matter.

During Carte Blanche's broadcast, Mothoa and Pule's relatives claimed they had in the past attempted to reach Mandela so that the former president could acknowledge he was the two women's father.

No acknowledgement occurred. He had reportedly met one of the women.

A legal spokesman for the women's families told Carte Blanche that they were considering bringing an application for Mandela's DNA to be tested to show if the former president was connected to Mothoa and Pule.

The women, originally from Hammanskraal and Bloemfontein, have been in various news reports over the years claiming Mandela was their father.

In the most recent report, it was claimed one of them was refused access to Mandela during his last hospitalisation in Pretoria.

According to the Carte Blanche report, neither woman was allowed into the funeral area when Mandela was buried in Qunu, in the Eastern Cape, on December 15 following his death on December 5.

They also had to watch Mandela's lying in state at the Union Buildings in Pretoria on television.

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DJ-Winner

Sometimes it helps to use condom...

Feb 10, 2014 9:41 | 5 replies

TheRealMsKinks

Hini ngawe, I greeted you on Friday wa ngishaya ngekweef????

Feb 10, 2014 9:50 | 0 replies

DJ-Winner

Sorry, dear, I didn't see. Happy to hear from you after long while, you well?

Feb 10, 2014 10:5 | 0 replies

TheRealMsKinks

Ngiright except I had to change my username eish iSowetan and this stupid "upgraded" blog

Feb 10, 2014 10:21 | 0 replies

The_Baws

Why did you have to change your username RealMsKinks? Btw, the upgrade is still happening... almost there. We just had to put up the ability to comment in the meantime, because the readers were going crazy without it... We're almost there honey.. please bear with us

Feb 10, 2014 11:31 | 0 replies

TheRealMsKinks

@The_Baws, I changed my username because I always got the message that either my username or password is wrong (neither was wrong). I have sent numerous messages requesting a new password (through the "forgot password" button) and still that did not help hence I had to re-register.

Feb 10, 2014 3:0 | 0 replies

Punkies

"Katz said the two women sought to be recognised by Mandela's estate, and did not seek any money." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- But why now? How come they didn't contact Cartle Blance when Tata was still alive? They want money..Period!

Feb 10, 2014 9:41 | 2 replies

TheRealMsKinks

These ladies stories have been in the news for a long time. One of the women even had proof of Mandela sending money for her maintenance. After he went underground and was later arrested the families (of the women) did not discuss the paternity with them or anyone else for that matter as (at that time) association with Mandela was deemed "illegal" or you would be classified a "terrorist"

Feb 10, 2014 9:49 | 0 replies

fokofpolisiekar

they've tried before, and they've been on the news for a long time. Once of them even stating that Mandela Foundation will respond to her letters and at the end they always reminded her not to go to the media, and she obliged up until around 2009 when she realized that she was not getting any help, unfortunately she passed on late 2009

Feb 10, 2014 10:9 | 0 replies

Maduvula

George Luka is in town!

Feb 10, 2014 9:42 | 1 replies

maneater

yebo i am just waiting for those beans to be spilled!!!

Feb 10, 2014 9:57 | 0 replies

Dankie2

Hey!!Hallo!! Dumela!! Ashe!! Kunjani!! Goeie more Oupa Mandela se ander kinders!!Where have you been and why do you introduce yourselevs to the nation now?Wether you seek money or not ...Tsek!!!

Feb 10, 2014 9:43 | 0 replies

ChunkuBabyOil

@DJ-Winner thank you bhuti but rember those days bewengekho... kwaaaaaaaaa

Feb 10, 2014 9:45 | 1 replies

DJ-Winner

ha ha ha...kwamele achithele ngaphandle ke. Uyaphila kodwa? Long time...

Feb 10, 2014 10:7 | 0 replies

MommaC

Wasn't their claim proven to be a bunch of rubbish years ago? I remember that this all started ages ago.

Feb 10, 2014 9:46 | 3 replies

TheRealMsKinks

It was never proven as the NMF promised to follow up on the matter and Mandela was not personally told about the ladies. The NMF and Zinzi halted any kind of communication. I wish they would have ensured that they prove the "paternity allegation" true or false. Both women have always stated that they are not interested in money but acknowledgement and unfortunately Mabe has passed on

Feb 10, 2014 9:53 | 0 replies

D-zel_1.0

@kinky; Onica's story sounds very credible and the resemblance to Madiba cannot be denied; they should just do a paternity test and get it over and done with.

Feb 10, 2014 10:4 | 0 replies

MommaC

Ms Kinks, I was under the impression that one woman was proven to be a false claim because Madiba had been in Robin Island for well over a year before she was even conceived. I must admit, it is so long ago that I had almost forgotten these two existed

Feb 10, 2014 10:15 | 0 replies

ChunkuBabyOil

@MommaC yes I also remember that,one of them started when Tata was sick to claim that she is Tata's daughter

Feb 10, 2014 9:53 | 0 replies

D-zel_1.0

The problem is these women have been shut out so it is difficult to prove or disprove their claim. Had a look at Onica Mothoa's picture on IOL live and the resemblance is undeniable. The Mandela family should deal with this once and for all, they should insist on DNA tests to get to the bottom of this. If they are proven as frauds then so be it but the saddest thing that could happen is for these women to be denied of their real paternity which is a denial of their identity as Africans and the opportunity to engage with their siblings. One of the women passed away without her paternity being proven one way or the other which is sad. Their claims are serious enough to warrant an investigation.

Feb 10, 2014 10:0 | 1 replies

TheRealMsKinks

Hi, I wish this could have been dealt with when Mandela ws still alive. When these claims surfaced he was still in use of his faculties (and read papers) and he could surely have requested his office or the Foundation to get in touch with both families and let this matter rest. Ive seen the picture on the printed version of The Star, they are carbon copies

Feb 10, 2014 10:10 | 0 replies

kanbeedone

Not that' I'm generalising, but how often do you find men especially from the older generations who had unknown children from outside relationships and have been hidden from the wife or immediate family, its always hard for the immediate family to accept but its always good to sit down and hear their side of story, to the public they might appear to be opportunists but do we really know the truth? again we are just mere spectators when it comes to this one.

Feb 10, 2014 10:6 | 0 replies

SharpSharp

They have all the right to know who their parents are even though its Mandela or a poor old man in KZN. This is not surprising we know that man do this all the time...Give those ladies some chance to prove and get over this matter finidh and klaar, i think they are convinced that Mandela is their father....

Feb 10, 2014 10:9 | 0 replies

$erobapipi

all of a sudden we now fathered by Mandela

Feb 10, 2014 10:12 | 0 replies