shower head n gang r such an imbarasment! wish Kgalema moer them in Mangaung! Report Abuse
Dec 14, 2012
skwamasamabele
Si if it was invalid, why did the NEC allow the motion of letting it go ahead unconstitutionally?? Its too close to call now the Conference is underway Report Abuse
Dec 14, 2012
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
But if Zuma wins Ace'll remain,he's not that bad the only thing he can throw away is favouritism. Report Abuse
Dec 14, 2012
joyful
ANC once again wasting court time - we have criminals still to be tried before court, victims needing closure........
while ANC waste court time on their differences! Report Abuse
Dec 14, 2012
PAPARAZ
skwamasamabele
Si if it was invalid, why did the NEC allow the motion of letting it go ahead unconstitutionally?? Its too close to call now the Conference is underway
this is a banana republic bra, with Maungaung, we would loose many people before and after, it is a wealth fight here. Suma must just tell his allies to start a new business and forget about politics because in politics one minute count. Report Abuse
Sowetan you really know how to summarise a story, a bit more detail including more quotes from more people would be appreciated. Report Abuse
Dec 14, 2012
MAWARAWARA
@Nzule
Hence Mantashe must go as well!
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your avata says a lot about your comment Report Abuse
Dec 14, 2012
Zimzalabam1
Some details Sowetan,y must u alwys be headline fascinated and u always run short on detail.Mxm Report Abuse
Dec 14, 2012
Hosh6
Dzel
Sowetan you really know how to summarise a story, a bit more detail including more quotes from more people would be appreciated.
***************************************
Patience bru sowetan is used to reporting in bits and pieces full article will follow shortly.
How can ANC or internal party policies be determined by the court of law because as far as I know people join and can leave the party voluntarily Report Abuse
Dec 14, 2012
skwamasamabele
PAPARAZ- Very true, politics is a dangerous business. But like they say here in the UK: if you cant stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. But you should be thankful you dont live in Syria, or Egypt. SA politics are like a sunday school gathering compared with some countries.
Mdala- All parties in the world are governed by a constitutional court (with exception of dictatorships), to stop the very occurence in Parys, what I dont understand is, why did the CC leave it so late?? really, incompetence even run in the country's courts Report Abuse
Dec 14, 2012
Nincompoop
The FS Premier and Mangaung Mayor must be investigated. There is a lot of corrupt activities in the Free State that goes unreported. Report Abuse
Dec 14, 2012
MAWARAWARA
@joyful
ANC once again wasting court time - we have criminals still to be tried before court, victims needing closure........
while ANC waste court time on their differences!
====================================
you must change that avata sisi you sound nyc but that avata eyabonondindwa Report Abuse
Dec 14, 2012
thabiomok
Ra o theola(recall) Ace,setulong sa bo-premier....ha, hahahahahaha.One who laugh last,laugh best..
Mdala- All parties in the world are governed by a constitutional court (with exception of dictatorships), to stop the very occurence in Parys, what I dont understand is, why did the CC leave it so late?? really, incompetence even run in the country's courts
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Have you ever heard about the freedom of association? ANC policies are not governed by constitution of the republic it is an internal party policies therefore this disgruntled members could have exhausted all inetrnal chaneels within the party and if that fails then they can approach the law.
As things stand now the decision taken by CC won't overturn the conference that elected Ace Magashule so he will remain the chairman of the ANC (Freestate) until another elective conference is staged Report Abuse
Dec 14, 2012
HoiMash69
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE GIVE MPHO RAMAKATSA A BELLS including her Crew for taking on the Shower boys
Now everyone can see that the organisation itself, is FED-UP with its current leader and Demands Change Report Abuse
Dec 14, 2012
Zulumacansi
What goes around comes around. They thought they were on top of the world in Polokwane. Report Abuse
Dec 14, 2012
oldlady12
I wish I understood how this parallel branches story works. Report Abuse
Dec 14, 2012
Dandan
Im at sixes and sevens here when do members take the anc to court and not , how was this entertained all in all , why these people were fired long ago , as they are interfearing wth conference Report Abuse
Dec 14, 2012
skwamasamabele
Mdala- Parties have to submit their willingness to represent contituents in constitutional courts, mainly to prevent change of policies mid-way through election processes, and also to abide by a country's democratic constitution's guiding principles. Magashule will have to face the constitution judiciary if his election is to be legitimised, otherwise the entire Parys Process would be obsolete. I still dont understand why the CC left for so long Report Abuse
Dec 14, 2012
INDODENGAZIWA
The champions of "constitutional democracy" violated their own constitution. They have been taken to court by their own members and lost. What do you thing they will do with the country's constitution. Report Abuse
Dec 14, 2012
Dandan
Was Judge Moseneke part of panel , obvious he has some more serious issues with side supporting Zuma , he made sure he sabotage everything Report Abuse
Dec 14, 2012
skwamasamabele
Dandan- Just out of interest, whatever happened to the 2 goats and 3 chickens?? I am just curious to know their fate (I am not lol) Report Abuse
Dec 14, 2012
T.C.T
Thanx to Adv Dali Mpofu one dedicated cadre who will make sure things are going accordingly those who thought they will get away are so wrong afternoon NW will follow,they can go ahead suspending Comrade Kabelo Mataboge maaare the bottom line is ASIJIKI cos stone cold say so.Kgalema our pres Report Abuse
Dec 14, 2012
Dandan
@T.C.T
The ANC must get ri dof these disgruntled COPE defactors , geese Report Abuse
Dec 14, 2012
INDODENGAZIWA
Dandan
@T.C.T
The ANC must get ri dof these disgruntled COPE defactors , geese
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The ANC must get rid of comrade ACE Magashule et al. for being antirevolutionary by not implementing the ANC constitution....bringing the ANC into disrepute. Report Abuse
Dec 14, 2012
T.C.T
Dandan
are you refering to the Absolutely No Consequences (ANC)?kikikiki it should have started with Zom zom Report Abuse
Dec 14, 2012
T.C.T
INDODENGAZIWA
ANC constitution is selective it applies only to certain cadres who interfere with intrest of certain cadres who loot our tax money....example JUJU now its KABELO Mataboge i wonder why it only works in ANCYL cadres who dont support ZOM ZOM Report Abuse
Dec 14, 2012
Damora
No more leadership in the ANC, how on earth can you allow an invalid Provencial delegates to attend a conference? Surely we must do something during the 2014 national elections. Report Abuse
Dec 14, 2012
Honeybadger
oldlady12
I wish I understood how this parallel branches story works.
====================
I think its euphemism for hooliganism Report Abuse
Dec 14, 2012
!#Sinudeity#!
skwamasamabele - LOL, your sarcasm always makes me laugh, even when its directed at me.
Honeybadger, it's honestly got me stumped. Here's a real branch, and then someone goes to open another branch with its own leaders, and they send delegates to a conference too, and suddenly 4 000 delegates become 8 000 delegates, and no one knows who's legit or not? Politics is too complicated for me nowadays. Or is it a way to just pick the 4 000 votes that suits your needs, and discard the rest as parallel, even if they were the legit ones? Report Abuse
Dec 14, 2012
MSG_S
Dandan. You never know about anc. Today is this, yesterday was that, tomorrow our money is F@cked. Report Abuse
Dec 14, 2012
MSG_S
I wish I had my own way. Meaning paying the tax was not compulsury Report Abuse
Dec 14, 2012
MSG_S
I still maintain that zuma should win at mangaung. So giving the people a reason to vote against the anc.. Report Abuse
Dec 14, 2012
Shwee
Stomach polotics. Once u start buying or bribing people to vote for u, then there is problem. Its like u r voting for yourself. Nkosasana Dlamini is the only candidate to distroy the faction in the ANC. JZ or KM are condidates likely to distroy the ANC. Report Abuse
Dec 14, 2012
skwamasamabele
Dandan-
No seriously Sin, I need to find out about the fate of the 2 goats and 3 chickens, Dandan is not compliant though, I think I will bring the SPCA into the issue (lol). Dandan ought to be arrested for unlawful slaughter of innocent goats and chickens, or illegally transporting them over the border to Zim and offering them as presents to uncle Bob, without passports. Report Abuse
Dec 14, 2012
skwamasamabele
MSG_S- still maintain that zuma should win at mangaung. So giving the people a reason to vote against the anc..
SA courts, leave the ANC alone. It is a voluntary Organisation. There is no point of taking ANC matters to court. If this disgruntled Freestate members think Ace was not correctly elected why they cannot wait for the next conference. They do not know ace, he will dribble past them. Report Abuse
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Dubul'Amanzi
So the former Chirperson "Magashule"Report Abuse
Hosinkulu
big blow for showerhead boysReport Abuse
swona
shower head n gang r such an imbarasment! wish Kgalema moer them in Mangaung!Report Abuse
skwamasamabele
Si if it was invalid, why did the NEC allow the motion of letting it go ahead unconstitutionally?? Its too close to call now the Conference is underwayReport Abuse
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
But if Zuma wins Ace'll remain,he's not that bad the only thing he can throw away is favouritism.Report Abuse
joyful
ANC once again wasting court time - we have criminals still to be tried before court, victims needing closure........while ANC waste court time on their differences!
Report Abuse
PAPARAZ
skwamasamabele
Si if it was invalid, why did the NEC allow the motion of letting it go ahead unconstitutionally?? Its too close to call now the Conference is underway
this is a banana republic bra, with Maungaung, we would loose many people before and after, it is a wealth fight here. Suma must just tell his allies to start a new business and forget about politics because in politics one minute count.
Report Abuse
Nzule
Hence Mantashe must go as well!Report Abuse
Dzel
Sowetan you really know how to summarise a story, a bit more detail including more quotes from more people would be appreciated.Report Abuse
MAWARAWARA
@NzuleHence Mantashe must go as well!
==================================
your avata says a lot about your comment
Report Abuse
Zimzalabam1
Some details Sowetan,y must u alwys be headline fascinated and u always run short on detail.MxmReport Abuse
Hosh6
DzelSowetan you really know how to summarise a story, a bit more detail including more quotes from more people would be appreciated.
***************************************
Patience bru sowetan is used to reporting in bits and pieces full article will follow shortly.
Report Abuse
Mdala
How can ANC or internal party policies be determined by the court of law because as far as I know people join and can leave the party voluntarilyReport Abuse
skwamasamabele
PAPARAZ- Very true, politics is a dangerous business. But like they say here in the UK: if you cant stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. But you should be thankful you dont live in Syria, or Egypt. SA politics are like a sunday school gathering compared with some countries.Mdala- All parties in the world are governed by a constitutional court (with exception of dictatorships), to stop the very occurence in Parys, what I dont understand is, why did the CC leave it so late?? really, incompetence even run in the country's courts
Report Abuse
Nincompoop
The FS Premier and Mangaung Mayor must be investigated. There is a lot of corrupt activities in the Free State that goes unreported.Report Abuse
MAWARAWARA
@joyfulANC once again wasting court time - we have criminals still to be tried before court, victims needing closure........
while ANC waste court time on their differences!
====================================
you must change that avata sisi you sound nyc but that avata eyabonondindwa
Report Abuse
thabiomok
Ra o theola(recall) Ace,setulong sa bo-premier....ha, hahahahahaha.One who laugh last,laugh best..Report Abuse
Mdala
@skwamasamabeleMdala- All parties in the world are governed by a constitutional court (with exception of dictatorships), to stop the very occurence in Parys, what I dont understand is, why did the CC leave it so late?? really, incompetence even run in the country's courts
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Have you ever heard about the freedom of association? ANC policies are not governed by constitution of the republic it is an internal party policies therefore this disgruntled members could have exhausted all inetrnal chaneels within the party and if that fails then they can approach the law.
As things stand now the decision taken by CC won't overturn the conference that elected Ace Magashule so he will remain the chairman of the ANC (Freestate) until another elective conference is staged
Report Abuse
HoiMash69
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE GIVE MPHO RAMAKATSA A BELLS including her Crew for taking on the Shower boysNow everyone can see that the organisation itself, is FED-UP with its current leader and Demands Change
Report Abuse
Zulumacansi
What goes around comes around. They thought they were on top of the world in Polokwane.Report Abuse
oldlady12
I wish I understood how this parallel branches story works.Report Abuse
Dandan
Im at sixes and sevens here when do members take the anc to court and not , how was this entertained all in all , why these people were fired long ago , as they are interfearing wth conferenceReport Abuse
skwamasamabele
Mdala- Parties have to submit their willingness to represent contituents in constitutional courts, mainly to prevent change of policies mid-way through election processes, and also to abide by a country's democratic constitution's guiding principles. Magashule will have to face the constitution judiciary if his election is to be legitimised, otherwise the entire Parys Process would be obsolete. I still dont understand why the CC left for so longReport Abuse
INDODENGAZIWA
The champions of "constitutional democracy" violated their own constitution. They have been taken to court by their own members and lost. What do you thing they will do with the country's constitution.Report Abuse
Dandan
Was Judge Moseneke part of panel , obvious he has some more serious issues with side supporting Zuma , he made sure he sabotage everythingReport Abuse
skwamasamabele
Dandan- Just out of interest, whatever happened to the 2 goats and 3 chickens?? I am just curious to know their fate (I am not lol)Report Abuse
T.C.T
Thanx to Adv Dali Mpofu one dedicated cadre who will make sure things are going accordingly those who thought they will get away are so wrong afternoon NW will follow,they can go ahead suspending Comrade Kabelo Mataboge maaare the bottom line is ASIJIKI cos stone cold say so.Kgalema our presReport Abuse
Dandan
@T.C.TThe ANC must get ri dof these disgruntled COPE defactors , geese
Report Abuse
INDODENGAZIWA
Dandan@T.C.T
The ANC must get ri dof these disgruntled COPE defactors , geese
**************************************************************************
The ANC must get rid of comrade ACE Magashule et al. for being antirevolutionary by not implementing the ANC constitution....bringing the ANC into disrepute.
Report Abuse
T.C.T
Dandanare you refering to the Absolutely No Consequences (ANC)?kikikiki it should have started with Zom zom
Report Abuse
T.C.T
INDODENGAZIWAANC constitution is selective it applies only to certain cadres who interfere with intrest of certain cadres who loot our tax money....example JUJU now its KABELO Mataboge i wonder why it only works in ANCYL cadres who dont support ZOM ZOM
Report Abuse
Damora
No more leadership in the ANC, how on earth can you allow an invalid Provencial delegates to attend a conference? Surely we must do something during the 2014 national elections.Report Abuse
Honeybadger
oldlady12I wish I understood how this parallel branches story works.
====================
I think its euphemism for hooliganism
Report Abuse
!#Sinudeity#!
skwamasamabele - LOL, your sarcasm always makes me laugh, even when its directed at me.Keep it up.
Report Abuse
oldlady12
Honeybadger, it's honestly got me stumped. Here's a real branch, and then someone goes to open another branch with its own leaders, and they send delegates to a conference too, and suddenly 4 000 delegates become 8 000 delegates, and no one knows who's legit or not? Politics is too complicated for me nowadays. Or is it a way to just pick the 4 000 votes that suits your needs, and discard the rest as parallel, even if they were the legit ones?Report Abuse
MSG_S
Dandan. You never know about anc. Today is this, yesterday was that, tomorrow our money is F@cked.Report Abuse
MSG_S
I wish I had my own way. Meaning paying the tax was not compulsuryReport Abuse
MSG_S
I still maintain that zuma should win at mangaung. So giving the people a reason to vote against the anc..Report Abuse
Shwee
Stomach polotics. Once u start buying or bribing people to vote for u, then there is problem. Its like u r voting for yourself. Nkosasana Dlamini is the only candidate to distroy the faction in the ANC. JZ or KM are condidates likely to distroy the ANC.Report Abuse
skwamasamabele
Dandan-No seriously Sin, I need to find out about the fate of the 2 goats and 3 chickens, Dandan is not compliant though, I think I will bring the SPCA into the issue (lol). Dandan ought to be arrested for unlawful slaughter of innocent goats and chickens, or illegally transporting them over the border to Zim and offering them as presents to uncle Bob, without passports.
Report Abuse
skwamasamabele
MSG_S- still maintain that zuma should win at mangaung. So giving the people a reason to vote against the anc..---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hamba uyonya mhlathikanyoko, uyibhari!!!!!
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Ndokza
SA courts, leave the ANC alone. It is a voluntary Organisation. There is no point of taking ANC matters to court. If this disgruntled Freestate members think Ace was not correctly elected why they cannot wait for the next conference. They do not know ace, he will dribble past them.Report Abuse
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