child4real

Well stated and said, Unfortunately its true, we will gain nothing from this coming meeting as the state. We should or shouldn't care it'll all remain the same. Power hunger and bad ideas will still persist.

Its time for substitution.
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oldlady12

Well, if they feel not even a leader change in the ANC will make a difference in their lives, then they know what to do. Vote in a totally different party in 2014.
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IamAJ

For Months I have been singing that song in this blog, this is not new, Mangaung is only a means to an "end" mark my words. Education will liberate our people, not ANc, Not Da nor Cope
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KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

@oldlady12

Well, if they feel not even a leader change in the ANC will make a difference in their lives, then they know what to do. Vote in a totally different party in 2014.
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Oldie RSA is not run by ANC our parliament consists of many people from all parties dont you think parliament not ANC if they stop attacking each when they've to bring better ways of dealing with thing could benefit this country then they can oppose each other on local level .
If poeple elect the new party that gonna to be opposed even in parliament is that party gonna better this country,by then they'll have to deal with oppositions from the delegates because the same people will be stalking them.


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RobinX

The party is now a complete bloody mess. Beyond repair.
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oldlady12

Katakata, " Oldie, RSA is not run by ANC".. Mmmmm you may be right, but then again, running something into the ground counts as running too.
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Voetzek

but eintlik were is malema, did he went for antinental
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KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

@oldlady12

Katakata, " Oldie, RSA is not run by ANC".. Mmmmm you may be right, but then again, running something into the ground counts as running too.
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Kakkakakkakakkakakkaka.Oldie may be I dont get the duties of the parliament when I say people attacking each other in the parliament.
I'll have to make a research on it. lol u kill me Oldie.

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oldlady12

Voetzek, that's who we're missing. Malema. Now they're showering us with ANC and Zuma. Let's start a "where is Malema?" campaign.
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Mgaraji

IamAJ
For Months I have been singing that song in this blog, this is not new, Mangaung is only a means to an "end" mark my words. Education will liberate our people, not ANc, Not Da nor Cope
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Education, participation & active citizenry is the solution. Without political party how are you going to achieve it? You see the danger of being educated but not participating & not being an active citizen.
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oldlady12

KTKT, YHOOOOO, those people in parliament can really insult one another. They make us lot here on sowetan blog look tame. I still scratch myself when I think of a flea infested body. Maybe Sowetan can go an censor them too.
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Papage

"In Soweto, most residents believed the African National Congress’ national conference in Mangaung next week would not change the problems they faced every day".

RobinX
The party is now a complete bloody mess. Beyond repair

I Agree, the party is a mess, We need a President who can rebuild this party and the Country, not Zuma, not Motlanthe, they are not capable of doing that Maybe Nkosazana Zuma, she is the only person I trust can bring back this Country to life, for now we are dead alive. The main problem is the provinces, to much corruption at Provinces, to much Family and Friends at Provinces get Tenders fraudulantly from the Cousin Premiers, look at Limpopo, how can Mathale be a friend to Malema and he gets so many tenders under different company names, please recover the money lost to these people, it is our monies, Our own President, his children and relatives get preference, how come? We are in a mess, They can go to Mangaung is true, nothing, nobody in their list will change this Country or our belove ANC, this is causing Our President Mandela Stress and he is in hospital now while ANC go to Mangaung, what a timimg, he i s ill at the strt of the party Conference, this tells you a lot. People must wake up, if they can't work for this Organisation Truthfully, they must just go, we need True Leaders, Maybe Mbeki should consider coming back, can we vote him in again? it is not about money, it is about briging stability and building our people's confidence again. I think he can do it witought pay, TBos Come back, we need you. I am an African
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Honeybadger

You actually ask a car guard to give a political opinion? Come on man; if you were writing your thesis and i was your supervisor i would refuse to look at your paper.
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oldlady12

Honeybadger, and why would a car guard's opinion not count if he is South African? He wasn't asked to give a political opinion. He was asked to give his own opinion of how he thinks Mangaung will effect him, or not. You must be in politics if you believe the man on the street's opinion of the situation in the country does not count. Only a politician can be so arrogant.
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Tlakenyobehle!

only a zulu boy from West Rand, Mandla Mngomezulu was the only one supporting zuma just becouse he is zulu sh!t south africa sh!t
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KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

@oldlady12

KTKT, YHOOOOO, those people in parliament can really insult one another. They make us lot here on sowetan blog look tame. I still scratch myself when I think of a flea infested body. Maybe Sowetan can go an censor them too.
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U know I sometime see no need for something called parliament because only such horrible debates we get from them.
What's a positive input parliament make in the growth of this country's ecomomy or reputation,i dont think there's a pure answer fo this.

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Honeybadger

oldlady12
Honeybadger, and why would a car guard's opinion not count if he is South African? He wasn't asked to give a political opinion. He was asked to give his own opinion of how he thinks Mangaung will effect him, or not. You must be in politics if you believe the man on the street's opinion of the situation in the country does not count. Only a politician can be so arrogant.
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If you ask a car guard to give a political opinion, do you expect him to be objective? why must he be if the government has not provided him with a job in an airconditioned office and a mansion in sandton?
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Honeybadger

oldlady12
.............. You must be in politics if you believe the man on the street's opinion of the situation in the country does not count. Only a politician can be so arrogant.
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And you must be in cloud coocooland if you believe a car guard can give an honest unbiased objective opinion about whether Mangaung will benefit him. Is Mangaung meant to benefit citizens directly and otherwise? Even you, who i assume is literate, cannot list realistic benefits to be derived by ordinary citizens at the ANC conference.

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!#Sinudeity#!

Honeybadger - That is his opinion from his particular position of society on politics in South Africa. His opinion is no more important than your opinion, which equals to one vote.

The thing is, more people than you think are lining up with his same opinion.
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Honeybadger

!#Sinudeity#!
Honeybadger - That is his opinion from his particular position of society on politics in South Africa. His opinion is no more important than your opinion, which equals to one vote.

The thing is, more people than you think are lining up with his same opinion.
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then you fail to understand the level of political miseducation of an ordinary south african. Perhaps i am missing the point entirely; what is mangaung all about? is it an ANC gathering or a government lokgotla? What was the journalist expecting when he posed the question he did to the poor car guard? Nonetheless the response sems to resonate with you and Oldlady . Perhaps i am expecting too much from both you two and the car guard! PS my vote in mangaung does not count; i am not a member of the ANC
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TupacAmaru!

Give this country to a white man and things will work out just fine.
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GOGOMLOI

Nkandla will just get an airport as well after Mangaung
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TupacAmaru!

Tlakenyobehle!
only a zulu boy from West Rand, Mandla Mngomezulu was the only one supporting zuma just becouse he is zulu sh!t south africa sh!t
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Ngicela ucabange before ucommenta ngoba usuyabheda manje.
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!#Sinudeity#!

Honeybadger - The question of 'benefit' will be based on policies discussed at mangaung. In this case, I think the dudes opinion, reflects that, doesnt matter what policies are decided on, or what big words or comrade-speak is spoken, nothing is going to change for him, and his family.
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!#Sinudeity#!

TupacAmaru! - "Give this country to a white man and things will work out just fine. "


No, just give it to a person with the countries interests at heart, and not his own.
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Honeybadger

!#Sinudeity#!
Honeybadger - The question of 'benefit' will be based on policies discussed at mangaung. In this case, I think the dudes opinion, reflects that, doesnt matter what policies are decided on, or what big words or comrade-speak is spoken, nothing is going to change for him, and his family.
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You and i would somehow come to agree if you were to say this man must not ask what his country can do for him...You just need to understand the level of entitlement within our society to be able co comprehend the source of my frustration; not with government this time but with the ordinary South African citizen.
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Honeybadger

TupacAmaru!
Give this country to a white man and things will work out just fine.
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And what does a white man have that makes him more capable of administering government?
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!#Sinudeity#!

Honeybadger - Dont worry bru, I feel the same frustration at times. When people protest and buurn down their free $h17, because they are not given enough free $h17.
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Hail

@Honebadger I think because TupacAmaru know gore setlhare sa mosotho ke lekgowa.
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GOALMOUTH

@ Oldlday12
@ Kataka

In politics all over the world, the political party that wins the elections eventualy runs the country. The problem with S.A. Parliament is that the ANC holds majority seats so they get majority votes in Parliament on all issues which makes them powerful. e.g. A vote of no confidence was raised against Zuma which meant he must remove himself together with his cabinet but it was never discussed because the house outvoted the motion, get it. The ANC can decide on any matter it wants in Parliament and nobody can stop them besides us the people with our votes. Until such time we have another strong political opposition, the ANC will rule 4ever and destroy the country even further.

Until we have a serious opposition.
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mavovokhabs

@Penwell Dlamini and Ahmed Areff . You deserve a good thanks for the DA. I like your edition because any critics you make against President Jacob Zuma is known therefore it will be better for ANC to keep one that has million critics than to put one who is innocent. Even for those critics to make South Africa in hands of the African will vote for President Jacob Zuma. It has been unfortune to like someone who did not express any changes he desire for us Africans. Will appoint the one who knows that we are poor and we have to fight for equality. Those who support Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe want the ANC to go down and the DA to take over gorvening South Africa. The time we vote the DA will be time to stop affirmative action, development of rural areas, become poor more than this time. Change is not only by the political party but everything change economically, politically,violence will start again. Comrades will fight against DA and ANCYL wishes.
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GOALMOUTH

@ mavovokhabs

Boss the times are changing. we r no longer interested in liberation movements we want a movement that will create a better life for all applying all the resourses of the country at their disposal. What we see now is a group of people applying poor service delivery and enriching themselves using state resources openely without been challenged. Its time for change not only from the ANC but change of the mindset. Afrikaaners were corrupt but they put the the white people first why cant our party do the same for us. Julius will be remembered for making some critical points and raising eyebrows even though he lost the plot.

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andmuchmore

until opposition parties has a clear vision what is needed and stop waisting time for useless issues like da li lima. until anti Zuma camp has a straight contender not any one but Zuma campain the wont be any change.
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Zenzelisto

the "great ANC plan" after zuma's disastrous term revealed - to regain the confidence of the voters anc has lead the public into believing the all so incompetent zuma will get a second term. Then have Kgalema Motlanthe viewed as the righteous underdog till mangaug, only to have him emerge from mangaung as the newly elected as ANC president who triumphed over the corrupt zumisto. This then changes the public’s view of the party and we vote them in power again, under the believe and hope that the organisation is moving away from its corrupt way. LOL how’s that for a conspiracy theory
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LeparaThePresident

Aluta cnotinua!!
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LeparaThePresident

TupacAmaru!
Give this country to a white man and things will work out just fine
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Are you saying a white man as a system or a person?
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LeparaThePresident

RobinX
The party is now a complete bloody mess. Beyond repair
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@Robin, i think it was a good chance for COPE to have splitted. It would have made a great impact if not huge.
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skwamasamabele

Oldlady2- If you want to start a campaign to bring that reptile (malema) into the fore, you are wasting your time, you'd be better off campaigning for your party (DA). Malema is a hypocrite, says something and does the opposite. He also cant tolerate critisism, whether contructive or otherwise. What we need Mangaung to do, is to change the NEC's electoral system. There is a lot of broerskap within the NEC, bordering on nepotism. We need a homegrown leader who was present in the country during the uprisings that brought the NATS govt down. Someone who REALLY knows what it was like to live under Emergency Regulations. All Exiles and Robben Islanders have failed us beyond repair. They should go!!
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acatibo

I honestly dont care about what will happen in mangaung.. Only few people are going to benefit out of it, i really cant wait to get rid of this ANC...comes 2014 DA IS GOING TO RUN THIS COUNTRY FOR GOOD
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taba-e-kana

mangaung is just a fucking joke....wher big ,money is spent...booze...sex and nothing else goes on...after that things will reming the same if not worse...MXM
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skwamasamabele

Honeybadger- Yes you are right, as a non-member of the ANC, your opinions are irrelevant. Its people like you who discriminate against illiterate South Africans that lands this country in the current state. Why would'nt a car-guard's opinion matter?? You may have your cushy job with loads of pecks but, why dont your put your carcass in a car-guard's position?? and then prattle your stupid opinions to anyone who cares to listen. You are an embarrassment to SA
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skwamasamabele

RobinX
The party is now a complete bloody mess. Beyond repair
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Concentrate on your tin-pot party, and see who'd win 2014 GE. Its amazing how most non-entities have enlarged opinions about the ANC. The current Leadership is doomed, not that we need stupid opinions of people who change like chamelions at a drop of the hat. We will fix the ANC, chapter & verse, all we need is to get rid of the current reptilian leadership.
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Takalanimc

zuma is ugly tjooooooo
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CYBORICO

RobinX
The party is now a complete bloody mess. Beyond repair.


just like earth, many have predicted doom for it since the begining of life, the same here,
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CYBORICO

@Skwamasamabele
@Robin X

usho uliphinde, lezinto ezingena back-bone lezi zinomsindo, cry babies, yibo laba abaguqa bathandaze when faced by a pride of hungry lions, thina ke we go grab the male lions by its manes mfanakithi. Phambili ngomzabalazo for a better SA phambili!!!!
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CYBORICO

Takalanimc
zuma is ugly tjooooooo
your user name says it all, mind still trapped in daycare sheit
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Rynier

If Manguang can only bring us a new inspirational and ethical leader it would have served its purpose!..Please vote for change http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/A_new_President_for_the_ANC/?chHPvbb
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Tobby

Motlante should have contest for deputy as well, I just imagine those three man in deputy race, all three dogs who are not politicians but greedy ones.
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