"Motlanthe also said the country was making progress in influencing men to stop treating women and children as objects of abuse and violence." What are about Women who abuse Men? Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
Ponko.Fontoyo
"Motlanthe said young women were more vulnerable to assault and sexual coercion by partners and others and that as many as five out of seven children were abused." Reckless statement as a result you don't qualify to be a president. Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
Mdala
"More than 71% of women had experienced sexual abuse and 58% experienced economic abuse. Of these cases, 60% were committed by partners, lovers or spouses."
"Women, 63% of them, viewed emotional abuse as more prevalent and as the most serious."
@Ponko
I partially agrre with you but you must also take note that there are more women than men in SA therefore it is expected that more women will be abused compared to men, please see stats above. Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
Ponko.Fontoyo
Mdala
"More than 71% of women had experienced sexual abuse and 58% experienced economic abuse. Of these cases, 60% were committed by partners, lovers or spouses."
"Women, 63% of them, viewed emotional abuse as more prevalent and as the most serious."
@Ponko
I partially agrre with you but you must also take note that there are more women than men in SA therefore it is expected that more women will be abused compared to men, please see stats above.
Dear Mdala
My point was not based on stats but on the reality that "Men are abused by women",and it seems no one from the top management (Government) is able to speak out against women who abused men. Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
oldlady12
Ponko.Fontoyo, please explain why you say his statement is reckless. Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
Pointman
Nice words - where is the action. Why did he not explain why the government close down the special units dealing with crimes against children. Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
MGEEZ
@Ponko.Fontoyo
"Motlanthe also said the country was making progress in influencing men to stop treating women and children as objects of abuse and violence." What are about Women who abuse Men?
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True that; every one seems to focus more on women abuse and not human rights. Consequently gross abuse and violation of men rights are never taken seriously. I am all for promoting women rights; but my view is simple and that is the one should not be done at the expense of the other.To make it worse they start abusing men from an early age by having programs like take a girl child to work instead of taking a child to work!!! Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
Ponko.Fontoyo
oldlady12
Ponko.Fontoyo, please explain why you say his statement is reckless.
Dear Oldlady I withdraw my last words "Reckless statement.........." they should not have been there Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
mashima?
Women became vulnerable because most of them are unskilled and unemployed, their nature of dependancy makes them to remain silence and perservee. So Mr Motlanthe what does your government do about this?????????? Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
Ponko.Fontoyo
MGEEZ
@Ponko.Fontoyo
"Motlanthe also said the country was making progress in influencing men to stop treating women and children as objects of abuse and violence." What are about Women who abuse Men?
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True that; every one seems to focus more on women abuse and not human rights. Consequently gross abuse and violation of men rights are never taken seriously. I am all for promoting women rights; but my view is simple and that is the one should not be done at the expense of the other.To make it worse they start abusing men from an early age by having programs like take a girl child to work instead of taking a child to work!!!
Much talk while the country is being raped and stolen from. Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
Mosquer
As much as I hate any abuse, whether on women, men, or children, it seems as if women are the only abused people. What about men who are physically and emotionally abused? I thought we are a democratic country which is treating everyone equally. Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
lindsay
@Mgeez
do men actually report abuse or they just let it happen because the person who is abusing them is the mother of their kids or so? if so how many and where? Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
MGEEZ
@lindsay
@Mgeez
do men actually report abuse or they just let it happen because the person who is abusing them is the mother of their kids or so? if so how many and where?
============================================================================== Abuse is still abuse whether reported or not reported!!! So what exactly is your point in this regard? Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
Right-Back-Khumalo
Nothing wrong with a statement from mbuzana. I'm sure Zuma also have the same views.
Have you noticed Mothlante, Winnie and Malema all attending soccer games lately. What do you make of this? Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
MommaC
It speaks !!!!
Maybe if it spoke out more then we wouldn't be so damn leaderless. Did someone wake him up and mention that, as Deputy President, he should actually be involved in the country? Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
Chichi7
For those that are wondering why the focus is on women and children rather than men need to think about what role a man is supposed to play in society. From a Christian perspective, a man is not just the head of the house but he is a protector of his family. Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
Mosquer
Chichi7
For those that are wondering why the focus is on women and children rather than men need to think about what role a man is supposed to play in society. From a Christian perspective, a man is not just the head of the house but he is a protector of his family.
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And since men are protectors they must just be abused! Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
Tlakenyobehle!
when men goes to police station to report the police men laugh at them ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha tl tl tl tl kwa kwa kwa
policeman: " hey ndoda uthini ware mama ko ntlong o dirang
ntante : " kare ke robala ka thupa ka tsoga ka yona ntate"
policeman " Eeee constable Mampuru etla o nkwise mooo ha ha ha ha bolela gape monna wareng tl tl tl kwa kwa constable Mampuru join LOL Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
MommaC
What are the stats of how many women and children are abused and how many men are abused?
Yes, men can be abused but to say that they are the VAST majority of victims and the focus should be on them is just ridiculous. Nobody should be abused but women bare the brunt of this sickness so that is what we concentrate on first Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
Mosquer
Talk about human abuse, not just women abuse. And some children are abusing their parents emotionally because of these lame rights of theirs Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
mrmanmsk27
Ponko and Mgeez, niyaphapha you took all my words. I agree with you guys, talking from experience. I once dated a xhosa lady, sorry to all xhosa ladies. I was abused, my car windows were broken down. My bed was thrown to the swimming pool, I can mention a lot. my family and friends are my witness, but when all this was happening I told myself that I will never hit a woman. I went to report that in Booysens police station and all the police officers laughed at me except one guy from newcastle who help me. I salute him.
All I am saying is we need to look at this on both side, some men are too proud or ashamed to come out and report these things. Some women pushes their men to do things like these. She was always saying that I must hit her so she can get me arrested. Nevertheless, I still say never hit a woman. it get even worse to mention these angels, children. Why would you do that, where is our consciousness. We need men who protect these two people(Woman and Children) and these two people as well to protect this man. Start doing that from home and see how easy it is. Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
Dandan
At some stage Thabo Mbeki was perceived as aloof this was a big word characterised him on the way to Polokwane, some of these people left out were Tokyo, Phosa,Modies etc it stand to reason that Mbeki was wrongly accused , labelled for wrong reasons, as we see chickens coming home to be roasted . All these people I mentioned above first step they took is to created faction in the movement when Zuma brought them out of dustbins, the very same thing Mbeki kicked them out for, unfortunately they have tried the wrong person Im referring to Zuma nt knowing that he brought them up in order to expose them throughout the world that they were nt sidelined by Mbeki for no reasons, thanks Zuma we now have seen, no more speculations about those so called factionalists, rotten potatoes Report Abuse
Self hate of Blacks is largely the problem. Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
Pheli-Marabi
Ponko-Fontoyo
Dear Oldlady I withdraw my last words "Reckless statement.........." they should not have been there
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Kwa kwa kwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Lol
ha ha ha.....classic *rolling on the floor with laughter* Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
T.C.T
Eishh Rre Motlanthe do what you do best promoting and reminding men not to abuse their lovely sweetheart,ooops Zoom zoom in the ada side is quite and the ANCWL is so embarrasing they wer suppose to be on top of this kind of issue maaare wat can we say they enjoy this kind of abuse even if some women are being raped by ppl inside the ANC they defend that rapist ASK zoom he enjoyed the support Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
motlantheforpresident
am i abusing my child or wife for correcting them i remain at home for 24 hours my wife return home at midnight and my teenage girl came home the following morning and putting my own family in order become abuse that nonsense this government infiltrated our families with their immoral evil tendencies and we lost control of our own families a child is a child and should listen to the call of his own parents but the government is imposing more right on our own kids whereby we are just unable to sent them to the nearest shop to buy bread and you Motlanthe concentrate on your Mangaung ANC members are waiting for your willingness to stand for election and leave our families alone Report Abuse
Mosquer
Chichi7
For those that are wondering why the focus is on women and children rather than men need to think about what role a man is supposed to play in society. From a Christian perspective, a man is not just the head of the house but he is a protector of his family.
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And since men are protectors they must just be abused!
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nowhere did i say that they must be abused. it buffles us as to why they are abusing the people they are meant to protect. Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
T.C.T
motlantheforpresident
Comrade you are missing the point of the message from Cadre D.Pres,and you bring your own concepts which lead you in misinterpreting wat has been said.Point out which specific right is interfering with how you raise your child or reprimand your kid and woman? The rights are okay according to how they are and they encourage children to express how they feel etc unless certain parents wanna be diBOsso mo ntlong i mean boTau.wen you enter the house everyone is running away from you to their bedroom Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
lindsay
@Mgeez
my point is if its not reported and no stats are available people will not make noise about it and it will not be recognised as something that exists whereas women and children do report abuse and therefore that is why its talked about. yes abuse is abuse and there are laws and measures that are taken to curb this but if it goes unnoticed how do you think it could be corrected. we all know that it is rife and is happening even the abusers sometimes act as victims but if the victims is saying nothing who is going to believe that he is a victim not the perpetrator? Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
paracute
It seems this two are ready to kiss or they just finished kissing.
in our country; the more you talk of things the more they become popular, look at HIV/AIDS is so popular, women and children abuse is popular, Julius malema is so popular, gays and lesbianism and corruption is also popular each and everyone talk corruption,Aids, Julius, abuse, gays and lesbianism, come on SAs let's talk about something pivotal so it becomes popular. Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
Mosquer
motlantheforpresident
am i abusing my child or wife for correcting them i remain at home for 24 hours my wife return home at midnight and my teenage girl came home the following morning and putting my own family in order become abuse that nonsense this government infiltrated our families with their immoral evil tendencies and we lost control of our own families a child is a child and should listen to the call of his own parents but the government is imposing more right on our own kids whereby we are just unable to sent them to the nearest shop to buy bread and you Motlanthe concentrate on your Mangaung ANC members are waiting for your willingness to stand for election and leave our families alone
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T.C.T
Comrade you are missing the point of the message
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Chief your own child has the right to refuse when you sent him to go to the shop to buy bread isnt? Now where do i miss the point? Your Wife has the right to come 01h00 in the morning with some reasons isnt it? and further she got the right to refuse sleeping with you that particular night isnt? i am saying this in practical terms most of the men understand what i am refering to it is the time of the year where most men/women are attending end of the year parties wait and see most men are killing their partners at this time of the year Report Abuse
He also acknowledged the presence of the 19 bikers who had just completed an 8000km tour to nine Southern African countries to raise awareness about violence against women and children.
"Indeed you did not turn a blind eye, but took action to demonstrate solidarity, not only in our country but at a regional and global level.
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Mothlanthe what have you done................ apart from PR work
@Ponko.Fontoyo
I dont normally agree with your views but it is true that some men are abused by their partners and there isnt much awarness. There is a group, Advocancy against men abuse (note sure of the name) and Sisonke Justice Group are fighting for men's rights. Yesterday on the new they highlighted the plight of men abused their partners. I was really touched by the man who narratted his story.........
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@Ponko.Fontoyo
I dont normally agree with your views but it is true that some men are abused by their partners and there isnt much awarness. There is a group, Advocancy against men abuse (note sure of the name) and Sisonke Justice Group are fighting for men's rights. Yesterday on the new they highlighted the plight of men abused their partners. I was really touched by the man who narratted his story.........
I'm happy we can agree on something,have a nice day.
a man being abused by his partner? haa haa haa! funniest thing I ever heard. You get abused bcoz u want, finish and klaar! Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
oldlady12
Women in prison are also having a march on this subject. It is called Violent Women Against Child Abuse. Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
imfene
paracute
HIV/AIDS sure is popular as a violence against each other, but especially against women. At least 1 in 3 people with AIDS, and the majority of transmissions with the knowledge of the infected party.VIVA anc for bringing this back with them in the 1980's and 90's. Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@motlantheforpresident
am i abusing my child or wife for correcting them
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What do you mean by correcting them..........
There are many ways of correcting a situation, remedial and punitive Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
Laqasha
my wife is abusing me,my boyfriend is abusing me, my husband is abusing me, nonsense! Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
Laqasha
@We are an angry society.
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are you also angry Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@oldlady12
Women in prison are also having a march on this subject. It is called Violent Women Against Child Abuse
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LOL! what a contradiction ........... violent/against Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
T.C.T
motlantheforpresident
that bread you are refering to is for that child to eat not me i can go and organise myself a full meal somewer and leave them hungry if i want and im not convinced by your reasons cause you seems to confuse RIGHTS AND MANNERS which is wrong again.Good men knows how to approach their kids and wives regardless wat ever reson u can mention it all depend on your attitude and approach wen you ask things.im not denying the fact that they can refuse but a valid reason must be given by all of them,remember we are ppl and we understand that things can happen. mchana dont pick and choose wat you think u can ansa go through the content of the message Motlanthe has aluded and have a proper understanding from it Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
oldlady12
T.C.T, you can't take Motlantheforprez serious on this subject. He talks about his wife and kids, but he also thinks it is okay for male teachers to have sex with schoolgirls, so if his wife messes around, and his children ignore him, he probably deserves it. Report Abuse
Dec 11, 2012
T.C.T
oldlady12
is it? thnx fo the frendly reminder...but we need to give our opinions and advices to ppl lyk him though the final desicion is theres atleast we will know that we said wat we needed to say. Report Abuse
Obviuosly Mothlante's comments are half baked, if the child abuse stats are anything to go by. SA has the highest child (paedophile) abuse cases in the western world, only surpassed by Mexico. Culture of abuse in SA originate from the culture of sexism and women's subsevience. The sooner we treat women as equals, the better. I am not holding my breath, as some of the bloggers here are vile paedophiles and women beaters Report Abuse
Dec 12, 2012
CYBORICO
Motlante has been too quiet on issues that matter, he has been quit while the anc was beeing dragged to the dogs by Cmd Tsotsis, and now that he dont look like he will get anc president he starts speaking, to me he is one of those who is afraid to call a spade a spade, cant call any comrade to order in fear of bad blood with whoever he has to call to order, he dont realy seem to care about the anc as long as he gets his chance as president,
And now he tells stuff about abuse as if abuse is something u pick from the streets, abuse is deeply embeded in those who do it, its like trying to change coordinates of a missile that has been locked to a target,(too late is say)
we need to tackle abuse at its roots not just triming the hedge, hence i associate this talk from Motlante with campaining for Mangaung rather doing what matters for the country.
Kids who grow up in abusive families r likely to be abusive, boys watching papa being abused by mama end up hating girls, boys watching papa abuse mama grow up thinking thats how u treat women, girls braught up n the same environ as above also grow up messed up, so after 25yrs in such a family how do u expect that a line like "Stop violence to children and women" go help.
many a time couples report each other for domestic violence, the law takes its cause and we all forget about the children, my take is that when u get domestic violence reported, u also need to have seriouse intervention with the kids of such a couple, if need be separate them from the parents give them all the professional help they will need.
otherwise stop wasting our time, people drink and drive evryday while we have Arrive alive campaigns all over and die for it, what makes one thing this one line solution will work in domestic violence cases? Report Abuse
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Ponko.Fontoyo
"Motlanthe also said the country was making progress in influencing men to stop treating women and children as objects of abuse and violence." What are about Women who abuse Men?Report Abuse
Ponko.Fontoyo
"Motlanthe said young women were more vulnerable to assault and sexual coercion by partners and others and that as many as five out of seven children were abused." Reckless statement as a result you don't qualify to be a president.Report Abuse
Mdala
"More than 71% of women had experienced sexual abuse and 58% experienced economic abuse. Of these cases, 60% were committed by partners, lovers or spouses.""Women, 63% of them, viewed emotional abuse as more prevalent and as the most serious."
@Ponko
I partially agrre with you but you must also take note that there are more women than men in SA therefore it is expected that more women will be abused compared to men, please see stats above.
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Ponko.Fontoyo
Mdala"More than 71% of women had experienced sexual abuse and 58% experienced economic abuse. Of these cases, 60% were committed by partners, lovers or spouses."
"Women, 63% of them, viewed emotional abuse as more prevalent and as the most serious."
@Ponko
I partially agrre with you but you must also take note that there are more women than men in SA therefore it is expected that more women will be abused compared to men, please see stats above.
Dear Mdala
My point was not based on stats but on the reality that "Men are abused by women",and it seems no one from the top management (Government) is able to speak out against women who abused men.
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oldlady12
Ponko.Fontoyo, please explain why you say his statement is reckless.Report Abuse
Pointman
Nice words - where is the action. Why did he not explain why the government close down the special units dealing with crimes against children.Report Abuse
MGEEZ
@Ponko.Fontoyo"Motlanthe also said the country was making progress in influencing men to stop treating women and children as objects of abuse and violence." What are about Women who abuse Men?
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True that; every one seems to focus more on women abuse and not human rights. Consequently gross abuse and violation of men rights are never taken seriously. I am all for promoting women rights; but my view is simple and that is the one should not be done at the expense of the other.To make it worse they start abusing men from an early age by having programs like take a girl child to work instead of taking a child to work!!!
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Ponko.Fontoyo
oldlady12Ponko.Fontoyo, please explain why you say his statement is reckless.
Dear Oldlady I withdraw my last words "Reckless statement.........." they should not have been there
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mashima?
Women became vulnerable because most of them are unskilled and unemployed, their nature of dependancy makes them to remain silence and perservee. So Mr Motlanthe what does your government do about this??????????Report Abuse
Ponko.Fontoyo
MGEEZ@Ponko.Fontoyo
"Motlanthe also said the country was making progress in influencing men to stop treating women and children as objects of abuse and violence." What are about Women who abuse Men?
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True that; every one seems to focus more on women abuse and not human rights. Consequently gross abuse and violation of men rights are never taken seriously. I am all for promoting women rights; but my view is simple and that is the one should not be done at the expense of the other.To make it worse they start abusing men from an early age by having programs like take a girl child to work instead of taking a child to work!!!
Spot on brother.
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imfene
Much talk while the country is being raped and stolen from.Report Abuse
Mosquer
As much as I hate any abuse, whether on women, men, or children, it seems as if women are the only abused people. What about men who are physically and emotionally abused? I thought we are a democratic country which is treating everyone equally.Report Abuse
lindsay
@Mgeezdo men actually report abuse or they just let it happen because the person who is abusing them is the mother of their kids or so? if so how many and where?
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MGEEZ
@lindsay@Mgeez
do men actually report abuse or they just let it happen because the person who is abusing them is the mother of their kids or so? if so how many and where?
============================================================================== Abuse is still abuse whether reported or not reported!!! So what exactly is your point in this regard?
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Right-Back-Khumalo
Nothing wrong with a statement from mbuzana. I'm sure Zuma also have the same views.Have you noticed Mothlante, Winnie and Malema all attending soccer games lately. What do you make of this?
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MommaC
It speaks !!!!Maybe if it spoke out more then we wouldn't be so damn leaderless. Did someone wake him up and mention that, as Deputy President, he should actually be involved in the country?
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Chichi7
For those that are wondering why the focus is on women and children rather than men need to think about what role a man is supposed to play in society. From a Christian perspective, a man is not just the head of the house but he is a protector of his family.Report Abuse
Mosquer
Chichi7For those that are wondering why the focus is on women and children rather than men need to think about what role a man is supposed to play in society. From a Christian perspective, a man is not just the head of the house but he is a protector of his family.
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And since men are protectors they must just be abused!
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Tlakenyobehle!
when men goes to police station to report the police men laugh at them ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha tl tl tl tl kwa kwa kwapoliceman: " hey ndoda uthini ware mama ko ntlong o dirang
ntante : " kare ke robala ka thupa ka tsoga ka yona ntate"
policeman " Eeee constable Mampuru etla o nkwise mooo ha ha ha ha bolela gape monna wareng tl tl tl kwa kwa constable Mampuru join LOL
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MommaC
What are the stats of how many women and children are abused and how many men are abused?Yes, men can be abused but to say that they are the VAST majority of victims and the focus should be on them is just ridiculous. Nobody should be abused but women bare the brunt of this sickness so that is what we concentrate on first
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Mosquer
Talk about human abuse, not just women abuse. And some children are abusing their parents emotionally because of these lame rights of theirsReport Abuse
mrmanmsk27
Ponko and Mgeez, niyaphapha you took all my words. I agree with you guys, talking from experience. I once dated a xhosa lady, sorry to all xhosa ladies. I was abused, my car windows were broken down. My bed was thrown to the swimming pool, I can mention a lot. my family and friends are my witness, but when all this was happening I told myself that I will never hit a woman. I went to report that in Booysens police station and all the police officers laughed at me except one guy from newcastle who help me. I salute him.All I am saying is we need to look at this on both side, some men are too proud or ashamed to come out and report these things. Some women pushes their men to do things like these. She was always saying that I must hit her so she can get me arrested. Nevertheless, I still say never hit a woman. it get even worse to mention these angels, children. Why would you do that, where is our consciousness. We need men who protect these two people(Woman and Children) and these two people as well to protect this man. Start doing that from home and see how easy it is.
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Dandan
At some stage Thabo Mbeki was perceived as aloof this was a big word characterised him on the way to Polokwane, some of these people left out were Tokyo, Phosa,Modies etc it stand to reason that Mbeki was wrongly accused , labelled for wrong reasons, as we see chickens coming home to be roasted . All these people I mentioned above first step they took is to created faction in the movement when Zuma brought them out of dustbins, the very same thing Mbeki kicked them out for, unfortunately they have tried the wrong person Im referring to Zuma nt knowing that he brought them up in order to expose them throughout the world that they were nt sidelined by Mbeki for no reasons, thanks Zuma we now have seen, no more speculations about those so called factionalists, rotten potatoes
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Laqasha
We are an angry society.Report Abuse
Laqasha
Self hate of Blacks is largely the problem.Report Abuse
Pheli-Marabi
Ponko-FontoyoDear Oldlady I withdraw my last words "Reckless statement.........." they should not have been there
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Kwa kwa kwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Lol
ha ha ha.....classic *rolling on the floor with laughter*
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T.C.T
Eishh Rre Motlanthe do what you do best promoting and reminding men not to abuse their lovely sweetheart,ooops Zoom zoom in the ada side is quite and the ANCWL is so embarrasing they wer suppose to be on top of this kind of issue maaare wat can we say they enjoy this kind of abuse even if some women are being raped by ppl inside the ANC they defend that rapist ASK zoom he enjoyed the supportReport Abuse
motlantheforpresident
am i abusing my child or wife for correcting them i remain at home for 24 hours my wife return home at midnight and my teenage girl came home the following morning and putting my own family in order become abuse that nonsense this government infiltrated our families with their immoral evil tendencies and we lost control of our own families a child is a child and should listen to the call of his own parents but the government is imposing more right on our own kids whereby we are just unable to sent them to the nearest shop to buy bread and you Motlanthe concentrate on your Mangaung ANC members are waiting for your willingness to stand for election and leave our families aloneReport Abuse
MommaC
motlantheforpresident,Define 'correcting them'
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Chichi7
MosquerChichi7
For those that are wondering why the focus is on women and children rather than men need to think about what role a man is supposed to play in society. From a Christian perspective, a man is not just the head of the house but he is a protector of his family.
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And since men are protectors they must just be abused!
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nowhere did i say that they must be abused. it buffles us as to why they are abusing the people they are meant to protect.
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T.C.T
motlantheforpresidentComrade you are missing the point of the message from Cadre D.Pres,and you bring your own concepts which lead you in misinterpreting wat has been said.Point out which specific right is interfering with how you raise your child or reprimand your kid and woman? The rights are okay according to how they are and they encourage children to express how they feel etc unless certain parents wanna be diBOsso mo ntlong i mean boTau.wen you enter the house everyone is running away from you to their bedroom
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lindsay
@Mgeezmy point is if its not reported and no stats are available people will not make noise about it and it will not be recognised as something that exists whereas women and children do report abuse and therefore that is why its talked about. yes abuse is abuse and there are laws and measures that are taken to curb this but if it goes unnoticed how do you think it could be corrected. we all know that it is rife and is happening even the abusers sometimes act as victims but if the victims is saying nothing who is going to believe that he is a victim not the perpetrator?
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paracute
It seems this two are ready to kiss or they just finished kissing.in our country; the more you talk of things the more they become popular, look at HIV/AIDS is so popular, women and children abuse is popular, Julius malema is so popular, gays and lesbianism and corruption is also popular each and everyone talk corruption,Aids, Julius, abuse, gays and lesbianism, come on SAs let's talk about something pivotal so it becomes popular.
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Mosquer
motlantheforpresidentam i abusing my child or wife for correcting them i remain at home for 24 hours my wife return home at midnight and my teenage girl came home the following morning and putting my own family in order become abuse that nonsense this government infiltrated our families with their immoral evil tendencies and we lost control of our own families a child is a child and should listen to the call of his own parents but the government is imposing more right on our own kids whereby we are just unable to sent them to the nearest shop to buy bread and you Motlanthe concentrate on your Mangaung ANC members are waiting for your willingness to stand for election and leave our families alone
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Puntuation marks!
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Nongoloza24
MosquerWhat is puntuation??
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motlantheforpresident
T.C.TComrade you are missing the point of the message
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Chief your own child has the right to refuse when you sent him to go to the shop to buy bread isnt? Now where do i miss the point? Your Wife has the right to come 01h00 in the morning with some reasons isnt it? and further she got the right to refuse sleeping with you that particular night isnt? i am saying this in practical terms most of the men understand what i am refering to it is the time of the year where most men/women are attending end of the year parties wait and see most men are killing their partners at this time of the year
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Mosquer
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MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
He also acknowledged the presence of the 19 bikers who had just completed an 8000km tour to nine Southern African countries to raise awareness about violence against women and children."Indeed you did not turn a blind eye, but took action to demonstrate solidarity, not only in our country but at a regional and global level.
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Mothlanthe what have you done................ apart from PR work
@Ponko.Fontoyo
I dont normally agree with your views but it is true that some men are abused by their partners and there isnt much awarness. There is a group, Advocancy against men abuse (note sure of the name) and Sisonke Justice Group are fighting for men's rights. Yesterday on the new they highlighted the plight of men abused their partners. I was really touched by the man who narratted his story.........
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MsKinkyakaKamaSutra@Ponko.Fontoyo
I dont normally agree with your views but it is true that some men are abused by their partners and there isnt much awarness. There is a group, Advocancy against men abuse (note sure of the name) and Sisonke Justice Group are fighting for men's rights. Yesterday on the new they highlighted the plight of men abused their partners. I was really touched by the man who narratted his story.........
I'm happy we can agree on something,have a nice day.
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Laqasha
a man being abused by his partner? haa haa haa! funniest thing I ever heard. You get abused bcoz u want, finish and klaar!Report Abuse
oldlady12
Women in prison are also having a march on this subject. It is called Violent Women Against Child Abuse.Report Abuse
imfene
paracuteHIV/AIDS sure is popular as a violence against each other, but especially against women. At least 1 in 3 people with AIDS, and the majority of transmissions with the knowledge of the infected party.VIVA anc for bringing this back with them in the 1980's and 90's.
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MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@motlantheforpresidentam i abusing my child or wife for correcting them
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What do you mean by correcting them..........
There are many ways of correcting a situation, remedial and punitive
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Laqasha
my wife is abusing me,my boyfriend is abusing me, my husband is abusing me, nonsense!Report Abuse
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
Laqasha@We are an angry society.
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are you also angry
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MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@oldlady12Women in prison are also having a march on this subject. It is called Violent Women Against Child Abuse
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LOL! what a contradiction ........... violent/against
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T.C.T
motlantheforpresidentthat bread you are refering to is for that child to eat not me i can go and organise myself a full meal somewer and leave them hungry if i want and im not convinced by your reasons cause you seems to confuse RIGHTS AND MANNERS which is wrong again.Good men knows how to approach their kids and wives regardless wat ever reson u can mention it all depend on your attitude and approach wen you ask things.im not denying the fact that they can refuse but a valid reason must be given by all of them,remember we are ppl and we understand that things can happen. mchana dont pick and choose wat you think u can ansa go through the content of the message Motlanthe has aluded and have a proper understanding from it
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oldlady12
T.C.T, you can't take Motlantheforprez serious on this subject. He talks about his wife and kids, but he also thinks it is okay for male teachers to have sex with schoolgirls, so if his wife messes around, and his children ignore him, he probably deserves it.Report Abuse
T.C.T
oldlady12is it? thnx fo the frendly reminder...but we need to give our opinions and advices to ppl lyk him though the final desicion is theres atleast we will know that we said wat we needed to say.
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oldlady12
T.C.T., also true.Report Abuse
skwamasamabele
Obviuosly Mothlante's comments are half baked, if the child abuse stats are anything to go by. SA has the highest child (paedophile) abuse cases in the western world, only surpassed by Mexico. Culture of abuse in SA originate from the culture of sexism and women's subsevience. The sooner we treat women as equals, the better. I am not holding my breath, as some of the bloggers here are vile paedophiles and women beatersReport Abuse
CYBORICO
Motlante has been too quiet on issues that matter, he has been quit while the anc was beeing dragged to the dogs by Cmd Tsotsis, and now that he dont look like he will get anc president he starts speaking, to me he is one of those who is afraid to call a spade a spade, cant call any comrade to order in fear of bad blood with whoever he has to call to order, he dont realy seem to care about the anc as long as he gets his chance as president,And now he tells stuff about abuse as if abuse is something u pick from the streets, abuse is deeply embeded in those who do it, its like trying to change coordinates of a missile that has been locked to a target,(too late is say)
we need to tackle abuse at its roots not just triming the hedge, hence i associate this talk from Motlante with campaining for Mangaung rather doing what matters for the country.
Kids who grow up in abusive families r likely to be abusive, boys watching papa being abused by mama end up hating girls, boys watching papa abuse mama grow up thinking thats how u treat women, girls braught up n the same environ as above also grow up messed up, so after 25yrs in such a family how do u expect that a line like "Stop violence to children and women" go help.
many a time couples report each other for domestic violence, the law takes its cause and we all forget about the children, my take is that when u get domestic violence reported, u also need to have seriouse intervention with the kids of such a couple, if need be separate them from the parents give them all the professional help they will need.
otherwise stop wasting our time, people drink and drive evryday while we have Arrive alive campaigns all over and die for it, what makes one thing this one line solution will work in domestic violence cases?
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