140mji

Had it been Zuma who rolled out garlic and beetroot...eish.... the Sowetan bloggers would have insulted ...calling an uneducated 'beetroot and garlic' BUT if it is done by an intellectual it is understandable...nccc... 'EDUCATED BLACKS???'
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The viral illness, which can lead to Aids is no longer as problematic to treat as it was 20 years ago. A person diagnosed in Mzansi today can expect to live into their 70s. Awu, cha, siyabonga wena Nxamalala omkhulu wena. Bakhonake ohleze bebheke ukgxeka nalapho kungekho khona. Viva Jacob Gedley'hlekisa Mhlanganyelwa Zuma viva.
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H-Star

America is smiling all the way to the bank coz SA will never get its citizens responsible. how much do this ARV's cost the tax payer on an annual basis.
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Nteletsha

Yet some Idiots are being misled by another Idiot called JUJU to believe that Zuma is not the right man for South Africa. Listen to Mugabe's stooges like malema and you are doomed. You don't want to see South Africa going the Zimbabwe way.
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sgubhusenkwishi

@ H- star, america is smiling all the way to the bank, Never mind on the other side african men would be smiling all the way to their joyful beds. Money is not everything, let the poor people live and enjoy their lives, as long as there is nobody going to die.
Cause even if money wasnt spent on drugs to protect them, they would still not be getting this money as greedy hyenas, in parliament would be busy spending money alone when the poor are living miserable life in starvation, waiting for death.
So what are they suppose to do? are they suppose to be expectators for the reach and clap hands for the most corrupted hyenas.
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MommaC

Yea, lets just credit Zuma with a program that the TAC and the NEC forced Mbeki into implementing.
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sgubhusenkwishi

Well done Zuma on this one.
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Momma

The TAC could not force an unwilling government. If the latter wanted to, it could have implemented the program on go-slow mode, just to be seen to be complying with the court's ruling. But the ANC as a collective, and led by a willing President, expedited the program. So ya, It's well done to uKhongolose and uMsholozi.

We need to remember that there are other parallel programs, implemented by the NGOs, USAID, government, etc, that are aimed at curbing the spreading of this scourge.
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MommaC
Yea, lets just credit Zuma with a program that the TAC and the NEC forced Mbeki into implementing.

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I was thinking the exact same thing, is it close to election time?

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H-Star
America is smiling all the way to the bank coz SA will never get its citizens responsible
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You will be amazed of how many millions of free arv's are given to Africa, not just SA.
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Tpaz!!

More burden to the Tax payer.
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!#Sinudeity#!

The government was forced to deliver ARV's to those in need. Now JZ is getting the credit for something he was forced to do?

The dude who slept with an HIV+ person, without a condom, and took a shower afterwards...
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!#Sinudeity#!

"Activists fought a prolonged legal battle that forced President Thabo Mbeki's government to distribute the life-saving ARV drugs through the public health services."

"After a 2003 court ruling, the government reluctantly rolled out a public programme to make ARV drugs available to people with Aids."

http://panafricannews.blogspot.com/2006/10/south-african-government-announces.html
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nato32

Just another plot to score votes-----tsek man!
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Sin,'

it is mind boggling.
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MommaC

POST94

That is not completely true. Despite daft Dr Beetroot, the government had about 250 thousand people on antiretrovirals and specialist training to about 15 thousand health employees had been completed by the end of 2006. The attack had begun on HIV. I'm not saying that Doc Aaron didn't escalate the momentum of the roll out but to give Zuma sole credit for this is disingenuous.

You may not like Zachie but he fought tooth and nail to get them to do the right thing and he succeeded

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Charley4sure

Oh! Please, the same man regarded as the champion took a shower to prevent HIV.
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Flemza

I have always known that there is something unique about Zuma, when Mandela choose Zuma to be second deputy president when De-klerk stepped down, now the wisdom of Zuma which was first noticed by Mandela is there for every one to see, because of Zuma, many of our fellow country man are now able to live longer, thank you Zuma, keep up the good work, in Mmangaung, its there for your taking, we can`t wait
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oldlady12

Amazing!!!!! Mistakes in the health Dept, JZ is not to bl.ame. Something goes right in Health Dept, JZ gets the credit.
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Gusheshe3.25is

Im claping hands for the good job done by the Pres" pa pap pa pa pa pa"
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oldlady12

pretty much.
He is only accountable for the good stuff.
Wait for the Matric results when Angie is suddenly going to be 'responsible' for the hongfong results.
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Nwanawamukalaha

Lead researcher Bongani Mayosi from the University of Cape Town singled out Health Minister Aaron Motsoaledi.
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Zuma had nothing to do with this achievement, why credit him? Why didn't we discredidt him during the non-delivery of books in Limpopo and other provinces - Angie Motshekga is still blamed even today, not Zuma?

Zuma has never taken a decision which has benefitted South Africa @ all. He excells in looting and moving his reading glasses in a "F&^%$k you all" sign.
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Dzel

Tosin are you campaigning for Zuma Boss?

Does Zuma buy the medicine from his personal account or do we the tax payers fund the health dept who buy and distribute the medicine?

No wonder articles where government take a beating get closed for comments for no apparent reason.

What Zuma's government implemented is logical and common sense; nothing spectacular about introducing and ARV programme.
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Rragwe

one out of 10 (failed)
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Dzel

Nwanawamukalaha

Zuma had nothing to do with this achievement, why credit him? Why didn't we discredidt him during the non-delivery of books in Limpopo and other provinces - Angie Motshekga is still blamed even today, not Zuma?
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Exactly boss; it reminds me of Christian mentality where when something positive happens god is credited, he works in mysterious ways but when negative things happen it is the work of the devil. I honestly could never understand this logic, I still can't.

We either credit Zuma with all aspects of governance and over 90% is bad or we don't credit him at all because when things goes pear-shaped as they always do the Minister involved or senior civil servants take the blame, it is never Zuma's fault according to his supporters/
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mashima?

At least this is the good side of JZ or it might have been influence by his w?????????nizing behaviour.
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140mji

Had it been Zuma who rolled out garlic and beetroot...eish.... the Sowetan bloggers would have insulted ...calling an uneducated 'beetroot and garlic' BUT if it is done by an intellectual it is understandable...nccc... 'EDUCATED BLACKS???'
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No one ever said it was acceptable to deny the existence between HIV and AIDS. He had some valid points in his argument like the role poverty and nutrition has on the progression of HIV and there is merit in promoting food items like garlic because of micro and macro-nutrients. Moreover he had a point regarding the toxicity of ARVs but he went too far in his intellectualism as not one factor mentioned above was reason enough to deny treatment to those that needed treatment, that is where he lost the plot and everyone who understand HIV / AIDS said denying HIV+ individuals treatment was not clever at all toxicity not withstanding.

You know the funny thing is though one does not want to downplay the impact of that decision but HIV / AIDS is but one of few flaws in Mbeki's administration, it i the only flaw his detractors have to ammo against him so this horse will be flogged until there is nothing to flog.

How many flaws does Zuma have; I'll make it easy for you, lets look at the last month only.
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child4real

It looks like people are really trying so hard to put zuma in charge of his anc once again, a little thing like this is just making him a saint. Zuma is bad whether we you give him a 2nd term or no the fact is he is just bad.He is unqualified to be a leader in such a strong state as SA.
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KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

Well done JZ you've done the good one.P
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Danisqo

F-U_C-K ZUMA AND HIS USELESS CABINET, just a strategy to get votes as was in 2009 when Mbeki was dethroned, I the taxpayer will be paying for those drugs not this foolish shower head, I am voting DA not this f%^&$n circus called ANC
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child4real

FYI when my sister was diagonesed with HIV aids desease in 2003,she got the arv's even then until todate.
Zuma has nothing to do with people getting those tablest but its just that people are trying to let those people that they are making fools to believe in this gabbage and vote for zuma once one...

I forgot 3days ago he went to consult his spirits(amadlozi naba thakathi) so it must be the spirit is intervening once again.
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lindsay

so he credited for arv who do we credit for the rise in hiv infections?
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motlantheforpresident

Dont care this is just a political scoring point looking at the timing towards Mangaung dont shift our focus here Sowetan my concern is my tax spending at Nkandla the R200mil for security at Nkandka is my real concern the fact that people are not taking responsibility and move around having unprotected sexual conduct has got nothing to do with me laat hulle kxaaaak
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lindsay

so he get credited for arvs who do we credit then for the rise in hiv infections , his shower?
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Nteletsha

Yet some Idiots are being misled by another Idiot called JUJU to believe that Zuma is not the right man for South Africa. Listen to Mugabe's stooges like malema and you are doomed. You don't want to see South Africa going the Zimbabwe way.
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The ignorance shown is blatent.

After Malema was charged for going to Zimbabwe Gwede Manthashe went to meet with Mugabe on behalf of the ANC. The ANC under Zuma not only endorsed and praised ZANU-PF as a liberation movement but also as the governing party, according to the ANC ZANU-PF is doing a sterling job destroying Zimbabwe.

He even went a step further and committed the ANC into ;doing everything to ensure ZANU-PF won the upcoming elections in Zimbabwe. No they will not be playing an observer role, they will be actively assisting Mugabe win re-election so in shot the ANC did exactly the same thing Malema was charged for.

Now if you knew politics you would know this as it is public knowledge. The ANC things Zimbabwe is doing well in fact and they have said as much.
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Papage

He had to do it because he slept with an HIV woman, he cares because it affect him directly, What Credit? to finance unprotected sex and encouraging it? He showered after sleeping with that woman, does that remove the virus? it seems it worked for him, hope others do the same.
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Dzel

Have you guys noticed how Zuma supporters suddenly appear out of nowhere to sing his praises because there is an article they can leverage off.

Where were you guys hiding yourself when Zuma's government and police force massacred 34 miners in Marikana in an incident not dissimilar to June 1976?
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thathakonke

@ Tpaz atleast we know where our tax money is spent on and I saw on news yesterday that now HIV patients will be taking only one combined tablet a day unlike taking 3 in the morning and in the evening. In that case the government will save more and people will be compliant to meds, we will have less sick people who will be able to work and also save on expenditure. It's good to see some change regarding this disease even though there is still lots of stigma and some foolish people who do not want to condomise,be faithful to one partner or abstain. Well done Mr Zuma and Dr Aaron
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Biggie

To all of those that say more burden to Tax payers please remember that everybody pays for tax one way or the other. So stop complaining. Well done Msholozi and the rest who made this a success.
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child4real

Me too I am suprised, where were these hiding all along?
It's like they were just waiting for something good that this ugly president will do and they will just straight to kissing his head about it.

He hasn't done a thing ...let me tell you folks....
Infact there's a lot that he could be praised for,this country is not only about the minority who are benefiting/will benefit from these hiv drugs..there's more that he could do to/say to win our hearts not this, the fact is this guy is not a good guy to lead SA we like or we dont so as the anc.
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Biggie

To all of those that say more burden to Tax payers please remember that everybody pays for tax one way or the other. So stop complaining. Well done Msholozi and the rest who made this a success.
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We should not complain when tax money is being wasted or stolen?

How do you justify the above statement? "we all pay taxes", you sayu ... oh thixo ... these ANC types!
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Kalahari

Well done to Zuma's Administration.

We are still having an unsatified apetite for these kind of committments by SA government even in other areas, hence we advocate and lobby for the "Second term" for President Zuma.
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Dzel

You want a real story, I’ll give you a story as published on M&G online :
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Guptas 'bankroll' Mrs Zuma's bond

There is evidence that the Gupta family is helping first lady number four, Bongi Ngema-Zuma, pay off her R3.8-million home loan.

Although the Guptas deny being involved, the circumstances around the bond's initiation and billing - and the very large monthly repayments - suggest their helping hand. This should raise new concern about the Guptas' close relationship with Zuma and his family.

Set on the exclusive Waterkloof Ridge that overlooks Pretoria and the Union Buildings, the property was bought in April 2010 for R5.2-million.

Before the purchase, said a person with first-hand knowledge, the president personally inspected the sprawling property. According to a neighbour, he visits regularly.

The purchase was completed in August 2010, when the property was transferred to the Sinqumo Trust and the R3.8-million bond registered. The trust is controlled by Ngema-Zuma and named after the couple's son.
Public bond records show that the trust was to pay off the bond over five years, a remarkably short period for a home loan of this value. To do so, it committed to paying about R80 000 every month.

Fingerprints

There are three sets of Gupta fingerprints on the transaction:

• The first print is that the bond was granted by India's Bank of Baroda, which has a known relationship with the Guptas.

• The Bank of Baroda also holds the bond on another house closely linked to both the Guptas and the Zuma family, one of which the president's son, Duduzane, calls home. Situated in Saxonwold, Johannesburg, the property is formally owned by Mabengela Investments, controlled jointly by Duduzane Zuma and Tony Gupta.

• And in January 2011, at a high profile South Africa-India cricket event part-sponsored by Gupta-owned newspaper The New Age, President Zuma handed the bank's managing director an award, apparently for fostering bilateral relations.

• The second, clearer fingerprint is a witness signature on the bond ¬documents by a trusted Gupta lieutenant, Ronica Govender. Govender is something of a factotum to the Gupta family. Company records reflect her as a director in more than a dozen ¬family companies. She is financial director at the family's flagship IT company, Sahara, a receptionist said this week. She is also listed as special-projects director at JIC Mining Services, a company majority-owned by the Guptas and Duduzane Zuma. Govender this week said her signature on the bond was "irrelevant as anyone can witness this type of document in their personal capacity".

• Fingerprint number three is the freshest: on inquiry this week, a bank employee gave Govender's JIC Mining email address when asked where the bank dispatched the Sinqumo Trust bond statements to. Govender responded that this was "absolute rubbish and even if it was being sent to me, that's not a crime".

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Biggie

@Dzel on this article, l don't see how its being stolen or wasted, my statement is based on the ARV roll out program & the increase of life expectancy for South Africans.
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Dzel

The corruption goes on unabated as you guys celebrate; Gedleyihlekisa Bond is scandal prone, every week there is a new scandal.

The R 1.5bn is not a full blown scandal yet but that one is coming, the fuse is lit and soon we will all be complaining about the R 1.5bn government is still going to launder directly or indirectly so Zuma can have his road and of course it won't be tolled.

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Papage

Does thing then qualify him for a second term? Tax payers money spent on him and his Nkandla home could have prevented many people from infected, by financing education and sending all the Zulus to the mountains to cut the bloodie dirty skin they are carrying
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Biggie

@Dzel, what does your story have to do with ARV's?
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Winilen

Well done to Zumas government for working so hard on this. Let hope they will put as much effort to other project as they did to this one.
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child4real

anc is just pathertic...zuma and his lovers makes it to be...we should just ignore them just to save our latter rainbow nation.

they destroyed all the prides we used to have
-our rainbownation
-our growing economy-
-our education quality
-our government
-our moral ethics

just get rid of anc South African and you shall be saved...
in this country you'll get outer nationals in power because of this anc govt..our streets belongts to the drug lords and nothing is done about it you'll praise zuma for the minority who will benefit from our taxes...no man stupidity done by just a lousy love for jacob zuma...No no no.
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Dzel

Biggie

@Dzel on this article, l don't see how its being stolen or wasted, my statement is based on the ARV roll out program & the increase of life expectancy for South Africans.
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Of course it is; it is an extreme case of tunnel viewing, Zuma is the worst possible president we can possibly have inspite the ARV roll-out programme
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Biggie

@Dzel, what does your story have to do with ARV's?
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It has everything to do with our president; let's just say I was providing a context for the discussion.
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Skhumbasengwenya

To all the people discrediting the story:the story was published because its World Aids day tomorrow.Research has been done and proved to be positive after Zuma.It has nothing to do with Zuma and campaining.IT WAS PUBLISHED BCOZ TOMORROW ITS WORLD AIDS DAY.Anyways I will say congra to Zuma and his Health administration.
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Skhumbasengwenya

To all the people discrediting the story:the story was published because its World Aids day tomorrow.Research has been done and proved to be positive after Zuma.It has nothing to do with Zuma and campaining.IT WAS PUBLISHED BCOZ TOMORROW ITS WORLD AIDS DAY
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Yes it is World AIDS day tomorrow but the story has been used to push an pro-Zuma agenda under the guise of responsible journalism so those of us unhappy with his administration have every right to counter. The headline could have highlighted this milestone without mentioning Zuma by name, that is what offends me.
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Skhumbasengwenya

..... and when world education day comes around, will Zuma be blamed for the complete cockup of our schooling system?
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child4real

The lesser we spend time saying the nama of z---a the better it'll be. I think we should just ignore all these people and focus to something that is nation building not anc pocket's building,
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ManoftheSoil

It can only be amazing how "the negative bunch", Sinudity, MommaC , Solutions and the rest will nenver see anything positive, its okay boys and girls , you can give praise where its due, Zuma took this one by the horn and we shall give praise. You shall stay n ur mindset and negative tendencies, no matter how grumpy you get , Momma Zille will never be incharge and I know she is all talk she will fail in all espects expect looking after the farmers.
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Dzel

ManoftheSoil

You shall stay n ur mindset and negative tendencies, no matter how grumpy you get , Momma Zille will never be incharge and I know she is all talk she will fail in all espects expect looking after the farmers.
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Your comments on ANC's performance under Zuma's administratios sir?

Please list both positives and negatives and let's see if perhaps Momma Zille does not deserve a chance given the state our nation finds itself in.
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P4T

It is good that the SA government in this instance is not a price taker for the tenders of ARV's because African governments were used to paying more than their western counterparts for the same ARV's, which is why Thabo Mbeki was never a favourite of the multinational pharmaceuticals.

Yes people should credit JZ and his minister Dr Motsoaledi for keeping up with the phrase : "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" because for all the things that were working before, the minister did not attempt to change them but focused on those factors that impeded on the health system to work. And at least the minister hasn't been tempted to allow incompeted carde diployment in the health systems, unlike his other counterparts. And let's applaud the health minister and his administrators in that they didn't find it a priority to fund for the operations of JZ's clinic in his compound before funding for ARV's to the entire SA population.

Now we urge JZ to do the same for all facets of his administration.
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oldlady12

ManoftheSoil, whose horn?
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ManoftheSoil

@Dzel - are you okay baba....how isthat article you posted suppose to help, it can easily be denied, I can also right something like that about ppl I do not like, these journos have their own agenda, remember they are also voters, not realy story here boy, just appreciate they ppl are getting help with ARV rollouts, just cause you have always had yours you dont't want other children to live longer.

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MommaC

ManoftheSoil

This has nothing to do with being 'negative', this is to do with wanting a tiny bit of TRUTH in an article. If the TAC and the NEC hadn't started the antiretroviral roll-out in 2003, we would now be trying to play catch-up. Getting an action started is where the hard pushing comes in, once it is on a roll, it is easy to get it to gain momentum.

I'm not taking anything away from the great work that Doc Aaron has done to keep the ball going faster but I am certainly not going to credit Zuma with single handedly making the initiative work
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KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

If it's not tax payers' money bringing these perfect changes whose money will,tell me guys?
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child4real

Or else the good thing that government could do is to fix the whole health dept and all others will follow..anc is a failure.
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spirro

i like the way zuma handled this issue, now even the poorest of them all can access the ARVs, unlike in the past years, i dont under stand the politicians who plot the downfall of the other instead of helping eachother to build this beautiful country, it makes me sick.
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ManoftheSoil

@Dzel - are you okay baba....how isthat article you posted suppose to help, it can easily be denied, I can also right something like that about ppl I do not like, these journos have their own agenda, remember they are also voters, not realy story here boy, just appreciate they ppl are getting help with ARV rollouts, just cause you have always had yours you dont't want other children to live longer.
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I'm good thanks. Of course the article will be denied that is why middlemen are used to lend deniability to corruption. One thing that cannot be denied though is Zuma's close proximity to Zuma and how Duduzane has been brought to the Gupta fold including attempts to enrich him to the tune of billions.

Questions that should be asked are:

1. Is Zuma using his son to front money floiwing to him,

2. Do these business arrangements and acts of amazing benevolence by the Guptas amount to a corrupt and symbiotic relationship,

3. What is he giving the Guptas or what do they expect in return, and

4. would this relationship exist if Zuma did not have the political power he has.

A president that allows himself to owe so many people favours opens himself up for corruption, he cannot and should not be seen to be susceptible to exchanging favours for material benefit. A president who has been co-opted and corrupted is likely to make decisions that are not in the interests of the public hence the direct link to this ARV story.

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Dzel
You want a real story, I’ll give you a story as published on M&G online :
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The Gupta family funds for Zuma and his family period! because him alone and the State can never be able fund his big family needs - it is a well known fact and that is not even in dispute. Which is why the Zuma has to listen to the Gupta's in deciding on how some aspects of the economy should run - hopefully for them to be major beneficiaries of the multi billion rand infrastructure programme that government is tauting, amongst other things.

This is in part, that which infuriates some ANC comrades in the party - that the Gupta family is remote controlling the ANC - and that they aren't even South African born Indians and who participated in the struggle for freedom but are the preferred beneficiaries of SA economic deals is really creating serious tensions in the party.
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Nwanawamukalaha

@Dzel - You are spot on mfowethu. I'm not sure if Zuma's backers are so ignorant to cheer their leader (to nowhere) when it suits them instead of helping him (Zuma) to be a better leader by learning to associate all the problems Zuma is causing with all the people of Mzansi and not them. This country belongs to us all and if we choose to keep a blind eye regarding burning issues which involve our lives and tax money, we will not unite through our differences.

Let's credit and discredit our leaders based on the mandate we gave them when we elected them.

While you are crediting him for this positive matter instead of Dr Aaron, like some of us are arguing, can we also lay the hammer on Zuma's head regarding the following matters;
1. Marikana,
2. Poor service delivery around the country,
3. Poor delivery of books,
4. E-tolls,
5. Poor running of SAA?

NB: All these problems are faced by ministers and not Zuma.
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Popeye

It was his duties to do so…wena Zuma you know that you are still facing corruption charges.
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KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
Well done JZ you've done the good one.P
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jy is kwaai maan Tell me who raped Khwezi without a condom? sleep walker
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Skhumbasengwenya

@Dzel

Yes it is World AIDS day tomorrow but the story has been used to push an pro-Zuma agenda under the guise of responsible journalism so those of us unhappy with his administration have every right to counter. The headline could have highlighted this milestone without mentioning Zuma by name, that is what offends me.

I feel very sorry for you by being offended by good work.Anyways Mangaung is coming,if I were you I was going to get medical aid or if you already have it ,just top it up.I say this bcoz stress levels will be going up and you'l be a frequent visitor to the nearest doctor.

@ Mommac
and when world education day comes around, will Zuma be blamed for the complete cockup of our schooling system?

Thats what they are going to do (blame him). Unfortunately I've never heard of World Education Day..Anyways where are you living?Zuma is blamed everyday in local newspapers.We jus need to congratulate him on this one period.
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@Skhumbuzo
I am dead laughing my lungs out
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Thats what they are going to do (blame him). Unfortunately I've never heard of World Education Day..Anyways where are you living?Zuma is blamed everyday in local newspapers
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Hahahahahahahahaaaaaa
How will the Spear address intellects, academics during world Education day with Std 2 IQ just imagine

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MommaC

Skhumbasengwenya

If this was Zuma's doing then I would congratulate him. It isn't, so I won't
World Education Day was on 12 June this year. Any clues as to why we didn't hear about it?
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Nwanawamukalaha

@Skhumbasengwenya


Thats what they are going to do (blame him). Unfortunately I've never heard of World Education Day..Anyways where are you living?Zuma is blamed everyday in local newspapers.We jus need to congratulate him on this one period.
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Congratulations are worthy to be praised to deserving people and not by factoinal judgement. Mangaung or not, those who backed tyrants like Hitler, Idi Amin and bad leaders/looters like Mobuto Sese Seko, Mwai Kibaki and Goodluck Jonathan never enjoyed the downfall of the demi-gods. That fact that floor-crossing is in the constitution doesn't mean people have to forget about the people on the ground and start looking after their pockets. Together with our huge difference on how things should be done, we can build our nation moving forward. As corrupt as Zuma is, WHAT IS IT THAT PEOPLE (HIS BACKERS) ARE PREACHING ABOUT CONTINUITY? Are they prepared to put a corrupt person to continue looting as if the public doe not care? If Zuma is elected and continue to loot like this, EXPECT a fresh unseen revolution from black unsatisfied South Africans. Mzansi people don't run away from their challenges FYI.
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leswene

I guess the message is also sending is good get married every year and take lots of shower .
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nato32

Zuma's timing for releasing this plan is nothing other than part of his plan to serve another term as President. Anyone who falls for this crap needs to go back to school.
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mvemvane

Zuma will champion this because he is also sick. He is doing this to benefit himself and those that he infected
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Dzel

Skhumbasengwenya

I feel very sorry for you by being offended by good work.Anyways Mangaung is coming,if I were you I was going to get medical aid or if you already have it ,just top it up.I say this bcoz stress levels will be going up and you'l be a frequent visitor to the nearest doctor.
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Boss you've typed all that and miss the simple point that we have to have medical aid because our health system is in such a poor state I would be committing indirect suicide if I did not have medical aid.

Yes I do have one, I can't entrust my health on Zuma's health system that is virtually dysfunctional even with the ARV roll-out. Do you use state health facilities boss?
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Dzel

Desperate Gauteng health suppliers beg for help 15.11.2012

Anso Thom: Health-e News Service

MEDICAL device companies in Gauteng have made a desperate appeal to Performance Monitoring Minister Collins Chabane "to save us from the Gauteng health department". The South African Medical Device Industry Association (SAMED) asked that Chabane urgently intervene in Gauteng and force the health department to pay suppliers within the legally prescribed period of 30 days. Tanya Vogt, Chief Operating Officer of SAMED, revealed that at the end of October the total outstanding debt to their members was R311 million - of which R64 million was owed for the period prior to March 2011.

Chabane announced last week that his department had a system that can now track which departments were paying in time and which not. Vogt said surely Gauteng Health must show up as a non-payer. She added that in parliament this week a strong case was made for government departments to stick to the requirements of the Public Finance Management Act. She accused the Gauteng health department of being "long on promises and short on delivery" - even when SAMED agreed with it on a problem-solving path.

Vogt said that in July SAMED had agreed with the acting chief financial officer of the department on a methodology to handle the payment problem. A survey was undertaken and it would have been the basis for a problem-solving meeting. But, she said the meeting never took place. Then a suppliers' indaba was going to be held and that too had not happened. Since then, a number of senior staff members had left Gauteng Health - including its head, Dr Nomonde Xundu. Vogt said SAMED just did not know where to turn to and was now appealing to higher authority.

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Dzel

Health department’s suppliers going bankrupt

SMALL businesses are closing their doors because the Gauteng Health Department has not paid outstanding service bills.

Sipho Ndlovu lost eight cars, was blacklisted, had his credit and bank cards frozen – and he was shot at three times because he owed people money.

He is owed around R2 million for equipment installed at various clinics around Joburg.

His 15 employees

are also battling to makes ends meet.

“I’ve trusted them with everything I had to buy their stock, but now I’m left with nothing, not even my business,” he said.

Another supplier said his business faced bankruptcy 18 months ago when the department owed him R1.2m.

They have received erratic payments and the last one was made in July. The department now owes him R200 000 and he has suspended services to the department until the outstanding account has been settled.

“The Gauteng Health Department very nearly brought us to our knees. It’s a shambles,” he said.

Last week, DA MPL Jack Bloom wrote a letter to auditor-general Terence Nombembe, urging him to intervene in the late payments of suppliers.

Health department spokesman Simon Zwane said the department spent about R300m a month on supplier payments.

Gauteng MEC for Health and Social Development Ntombi Mekgwe has invited suppliers to an indaba today, but the suppliers are not impressed about having to specify their dietary requirements.

“Why are they spending all this money on feeding us when they could rather use the money to pay back their debt. It’s ludicrous,” one supplier said.

Meanwhile, Gauteng is one of six provincial health departments where a grant transfer was withheld because of “poor spending”.

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motlantheforpresident

nato32
Zuma's timing for releasing this plan is nothing other than part of his plan to serve another term as President. Anyone who falls for this crap needs to go back to school
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Spot on chief anyone with balanced thinking could not fail to see their fooolish intension










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Zenzelisto

HOLD THE F^CK UP, how on earth is zuma getting credit for something he had no choice but to implement?? and as for Tax money, i would rather mine went to helping sick people than pay for A$$holes in prison to have the best medical care. they rape,kill,hijack and do all types of things against the tax payer who feeds them and clothe them while they in jail. hell give all my tax money towards ARVs
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!#Sinudeity#!

LOL, its funny when there is an article on corruption, or of people dying in hospitals, then all the JZ @ssl1ckers are nowhere to be found.

Now suddenly they crawl out of the woodwork, singing his praises as if he miraculously healed all people with HIV :P

Yeah, yeah, blow it out of your @sses JZ b@lll1ckers, you have to be a special kind of ignorant to consider JZ as a good president.
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skwamasamabele

Sin- you seriously got issues, dude. Never mind, he'd be gone after Mangaung, I cant wait to see where and to whom the manure is going to be thrown next time round. Anyways, did Zille fix your pothole in Richmond?? (lol)
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skwamasamabele

Obviously Msholozi's timing is very opportunistic, which is expected for a politician. But, the sentiment and discontent among the rank & file grows as we approach the conference. I just fear the resultant outcome (probably violence) between the reptile's (Juju) and Msholozi's supporters. But introduction of ARVs is not cast-iron assurance of re-election for leadership, I suspect JZ will pull something out of the bag to save his skin. But for the sake of the ANC and all our sanity, he should step aside
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Dawoodhomosis

It is always good to hear news that are related to saving lives. President Zuma has implemented a policy
that Dr. Costa Gazi of the P.A.C. was advocating years ago and was imprisoned for supplying pregnant
HIV+ women with anti-retroviral medication. well done President Zuma and not forgeting Dr. Motsoaledi for the excellent job.
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lalankie

Are u guys for real? You are seriously complaining about money? Exactly who are tax payers, because people infected by the HIV virus are also tax payers. Let’s not be ignorant of the fact that they also work just like any other person, some even hold executive positions in various companies, so let’s not sound as if these people depend on the mercy of the government. complain about the government planning to give prisoners money when they get out of jail and not on using money productively to change people's lives.

what happened to the spirit of ubunti and loving thy neibour. we all know some1 who is infected by this virus and indeed it does affect us all. a bit of a tip, u might be one of the infected someday, so please think before u speak



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