A MTHATHA church resembled a battlefield as congregation members armed with knives, pangas, sjamboks and guns turned on one another when a fight broke out between rival groups.
We are really an angry nation, aren't we? This is a very small issue and it could have been verbally resolved, especially as these are church people. It seems people don't care about sins anymore. Who goes to a church carrying a gun? Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
MGEEZ
What an angry bunch of church members???? Report Abuse
'...render your hearts not your clothes...' Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
MGEEZ
@Right-Back-Khumalo
We are really an angry nation, aren't we? This is a very small issue and it could have been verbally resolved, especially as these are church people. It seems people don't care about sins anymore. Who goes to a church carrying a gun?
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Indeed!!!! One thing i can tell you though is that those who carried guns to church did not go there to worship; but to fight. Report Abuse
@Mokwepa
i blame mayonnaise here
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Which one? Nola or Cross and Blackwell Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
seribe
Where do pangas,guns and knives comes from in a church? Indeed the world come to an end it seems as if it was a planned battle Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Mokwepa
@MGEEZ
@Mokwepa
i blame mayonnaise here
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Which one? Nola or Cross and Blackwell
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Mpongo..Zim brand Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Mygirl
Amaweseli.... ssssssies maan niyanyanyisa..!!!!! Phu..!! Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
Bible-clutching women wearing bright red and white church uniforms were forced to flee as fellow Methodist Church of Southern Africa members attacked other worshippers in a church yard at Mazizini vil.lage near Mthatha on Sunday morning.
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I can just imagine abomama bomthandazo scremaing and running for dear life
F*&^% why are we such an angry nation.......... what happend to the KIND in humankind??? Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Danielrjvvuren
We are in the "African Renascence" so what would it be without some Christian bashing I guess? Report Abuse
In a church nogal. We have really become a blot of shame on this continent. Going to church with weapons has to be the worst travesty of religion I can imagine. SIS!!! Report Abuse
Blame the colonianization of the African mind and loss of culture, also the money making schemes they call churches robbing our people blind in the name of the "saviour". There wouldn't be any fighting if there was no money and power involved! Report Abuse
Blame the colonianization of the African mind and loss of culture, also the money making schemes they call churches robbing our people blind in the name of the "saviour". There wouldn't be any fighting if there was no money and power involved!
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The devil is inside the Church, They Pastor Zondo & Mbhoro Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Papage
Ke Mawesele? I dont believe my eyes, what happened? now where must we go pray then if the head Office is doing this? Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
RobinX
Bumboklaat: Don't be a knuckle. Not everything is caused by colonialism. This is just plain ridiculous factionalism and cannot be defelcted away from the people that go to a church armed to the teeth. Get real, man. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Papage
I just wonder how do the Minister get to Preach the word of God after that Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
MGEEZ
@Papage
The devil is inside the Church, They Pastor Zondo & Mbhoro
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He has been for a long time; only people who have an unhealthy appetite for arguments will deny that, for the scripture is replete with such warnings of wolves in sheep clothing etc Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Bumboklaat
@RobinX
Bumboklaat: Don't be a knuckle. Not everything is caused by colonialism. This is just plain ridiculous factionalism and cannot be defelcted away from the people that go to a church armed to the teeth. Get real, man
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If you are the former RobinH then I am disapointed that you would just shoot from the hip and call me a knucle! whatever that is I don't like it! I have read your comments before and you are a very liberal commentator. I have disagreed with some of your opinions and chose not to comment because as much as I disagreed they were your opinions! So my dear sir! or should I say baas! I take offence that you would call me a knuckle simply because I express my opinion. It is my observation that most of the things instilled by colonialism was passed on from generation to generation by our forefather and the forefathers before them! Hence my comment! If you think you are better or smarter than everyone then I got news for you! You are only a person and can never be better than everyone and I do not care how many degrees you have or from under which rock you crawled! Just to fcuk with me! Verstaan? Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
antie
I can relate to this kind of anger. Every easter Monday, some very small (about 20 members) Nigerian church group gather 2 houses away from me. They put about 20 massive speakers outside, and from 10 in the morning till all hours of the night, the pastor screams all kinds of wors.hip and h.ell and damnation over the speakers. He can be heard 5 blocks away. I have tried to tell him that he does not need to shout for God to hear him, but to no avail. That day I cannot even hear the TV inside my house. I am waiting for easter Monday 2013. He is going to personally experience he.ll and damnation. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
But after all they're imperfect humans as you are there's nothing wrong about them let them fight they have the right to bl@ksem each other. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Dubul'Amanzi
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
Bible-clutching women wearing bright red and white church uniforms were forced to flee as fellow Methodist Church of Southern Africa members attacked other worshippers in a church yard at Mazizini vil.lage near Mthatha on Sunday morning.
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I can just imagine abomama bomthandazo scremaing and running for dear life
F*&^% why are we such an angry nation.......... what happend to the KIND in humankind???
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I think we need to pray my sister,I will start a church here ko Sowetan. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
they fight for leadership, i this shows how desperate people are to be in the position of power even at church, because they want to control, the only person who was able to do that was Jesus because he had spiritually transcended as a demi-god, so ppl must just stop being stupid Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Hail
Ja ne, is it the end of time? the problem is people want to own the church and become attached to the material things of the church. @papage ke mawesele! ijoo ga balwa ko godimo rona ko tlase re reng? Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
joyful
@antie
LOL! our brothers from Naija think the power is in the voice-o, you have to shouti and shouti! Chineke go hear well-well, He go do miracles - even you their neighbourso, go hear-o; in the end you go come join and leavi your sacrilege and abomination!
llluminati, Freemasons @ work here i tell you!!!!!!! Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
RobinX
Bumboklaat> With respect, your remark required shooting from the hip. You are far to free with your blaming colonialism. As long as people use such clearly outmoded notions to escape the real issues we will never get anywhere. I am indeed RobinH, and I stand by my remark. I am just sick and tired of knee-jerk blame colonialism, blame Apartheid, blame some imagined agent responses one comes across, whyile not even bothering to look closely at the situation in which modern day South Africans willingly place themselves. It is a pity that you seem unable to look past a very distant past. Rather blame greed.... and for that one could conceivably blame a way of thinking engendered by capital;ist exploitation, but in this instance that would be a real stretch. Report Abuse
Bumboklaat, I've read Robin's response to you, and yours to him. What I would like is for you to explain HOW you relate this incident to colonialism. Just saying it does make you sound as if you are brainwashed to sing a specific tune, so maybe an explanation will go a long way to understand your opinion. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
joyful
But this is sad - sad that only one man is in the middle of it all!
The reverend, if he truly has the calling - should persue peace at all price. that is what the Word says!
he should be able to call the 2 sactions together, introduce a new pastor and giv his support - then resign! as a shepherd he should put the best interest of God's flock before his own interest! Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
!#Sinudeity#!
Even at churches there are rival factions who want to k1ll each other.
South Africans, WTF is up with you? Another case of tradition or culture?
!#Sinudeity#!
Even at churches there are rival factions who want to k1ll each other.
South Africans, WTF is up with you? Another case of tradition or culture?
Come on!!!
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Which language (home language) do you speak? Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
MabhebezaEC___69!!!
....you are drunk Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
antie
Joyful, 2013 easter Monday I am going to take my 12 pet snakes to that yard. I will show him he.ll. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
MabhebezaEC___69!!!
@THEmadame2B-BBEE
MabhebezaEC___69!!!
....you are drunk
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You must be high on something stronger than alcohol!!!!! Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Dubul'Amanzi
joyful
But this is sad - sad that only one man is in the middle of it all!
The reverend, if he truly has the calling - should persue peace at all price. that is what the Word says!
he should be able to call the 2 sactions together, introduce a new pastor and giv his support - then resign! as a shepherd he should put the best interest of God's flock before his own interest!***88
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I agree Report Abuse
@Bumboklaat
@RobinX
Indeed RobinX is the former RobinH; you cant miss tha; all the traits are there. He knows everything and if you dare disagree with him; either you are a knucle, a twit or you even need to grow a brain; just to mention a few of his vocabulary and to him this condescending attitude is perfectly normal and if you do not like it go fly a kite as he would say or find a mirror for a toy!!! Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Usernamee
Religion & Politics goes hand in hand.....
If there can be violence in politics why can't there be violence in in religions....
Muslims are killing Jews and Jews are killing Muslims all in the name of religion....
Problem = people are failing to research what they engage themselves into, and the danger with that is, rational thinking is over-shadowed by emotions born from engaging on something they know little about. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
MabhebezaEC___69!!!
...yeah sure opium………….unlike alcohol, the side effects of alcohol it attacks your cell membrane and then you end up posting stupid comments Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Blackstone.lebs
Weapons in church? what a shame...this is a possible precursor to a new church. Too much power corrupts and usually results in such fights and splinter groups.
Dubul'Amanzi - At the moment, the two languages I use the most at home is Java and C#. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Dubul'Amanzi
!#Sinudeity#!
Dubul'Amanzi - At the moment, the two languages I use the most at home is Java and C#.
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You speak Xhosa,ngikubamba ngomoya,yaz kuthi ngikutshele indaba zakho If you don't mind. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Yotywa
Never a dull moment in SA, I wonder in other countries? Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
!#Sinudeity#!
Dubul'Amanzi - I can speak a little bit of Xhosa, mostly Zulu though. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
RobinX
Mgeez: It is so gratifying to see that I made an impression. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Msiphos00
MGEEZ
@Bumboklaat
@RobinX
Indeed RobinX is the former RobinH; you cant miss tha; all the traits are there. He knows everything and if you dare disagree with him; either you are a knucle, a twit or you even need to grow a brain; just to mention a few of his vocabulary and to him this condescending attitude is perfectly normal and if you do not like it go fly a kite as he would say or find a mirror for a toy!!!
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Tempers are flying here Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Msiphos00
We have a double ZCC, and the Shembe Church will also be double now my lovely Wesile is doubling up eishhhhhh Report Abuse
Eishhh Xhosa's and Eastern Cape again???? fighting for positions at church, chasing a minister away or unholy war??? it's what they always do, they are so used to that- Baqhelile maba yekwe babulalane qha. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
nzaco
funny characters here...where is Goaaaatyyyyyy Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Bumboklaat
Robin and Antie
I said it's colonialism because thats what it is. I did not mention apartheid but it also left an effect on some of our people, whether you guys aprrove of my opinion or not I frankly don't give a m0nkey's b@lls. I have seen the effects of the past, whether it be colonialism or apartheid the fact remains it has affected my people to an extent that they feel that their own cultures and customs are inferior to that of westerners. I will not take kindly to you insulting me and saying I blame colonialism or apartheid. I don't condone people blaming apartheid for their lack of morals or for the fact that they are unemployed. I certainly don't blame apartheid for the fact that I can not afford a house and a car. But I will express my opinion about it's effects on my people because I see it everyday! Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Bumboklaat
@nzaco
funny characters here...where is Goaaaatyyyyyy
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Ya san! O fodile? Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Danielrjvvuren
Why stop there lets start blaming the effects of the creation! No wait! On the Spanish Inquisition no black plaque! I see the effects of that everyday! Hows about the effect that Da Vinci had on the world now there is cause and effect for you! Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
mthosam
devils, people will still join such church in the name of our pastor. refrain from devils of such calibre Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
Sophisticated_Ignorance
Oh, black people... Just because it happened at a church/ by church goers doesnt make it armageddon or holy war or anything holy... Damn, why do y'all always have to take it there? Pathetic sods, really!!! Report Abuse
Bumboklaat. staaaadig seun. I don't approve, nor do I disapprove of your opinion as I do not understand your opinion because you do not care to explain your opninion. You blame colonialism, and I do not understand why, as in my 69 yrs I have never seen or known of white people fighting like this at a church, so I truly am interested in your opinion. Or do you just blame without thinking it through? Report Abuse
Bumbo: Whatever. Had enough of this now. Let's just go and chop up a fellow congregant in true colonial fashion, shall we....... Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
child4real
***Papage***
I think people before they can comment about spiritual stuff they should introspect themselves first...infact I wonder if this person knows anything about God...! Report Abuse
The truth is...people should repeant in churches and know that having to just be present in church doesnt constitu holiness.
Our God is the merciful god, His luv is amazing ,yes He luvs us all but,it's easy to come to Him.
God needs to be worshipped in truth and in spirit and the only way is the blood of the lamb, that washes away all the sins of the world, to whom you come by lossing yourself.
That lamb is Lord Jesus Christ---
He died for all the sins of the world---
That we may have love and peace---
That we may overcome the sins---
That we may be unite with God the Father--
That we may defeat satan the deciever of man
God is luv and people should stop sins and live a holly life that doesn't have a false pretence. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
child4real
It still say having to wear church clothes and going to church doesn't make you holly at all and so as staying at home not congregating with your fellow Christians. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
MGEEZ
@Tobby
Eishhh Xhosa's and Eastern Cape again???? fighting for positions at church, chasing a minister away or unholy war??? it's what they always do, they are so used to that- Baqhelile maba yekwe babulalane qha.
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What informs this unfortunate statement now? Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
MGEEZ
@child4real
***Papage***
I think people before they can comment about spiritual stuff they should introspect themselves first...infact I wonder if this person knows anything about God...!
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What informs your statement above? Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
CHIEFKHONZAPHI2nd
Things happen like this and some1 tells us that we need cleansing, only people going back to God not churches, Religion or cleansing. Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
SebolaNtimetseAdikateMoketla
"I like your Christ but I dont like your Christians
They're so unlike him"
Mahatma Ghandi
And yet they say IZIKHOTHANE are F&*KD up, How do you explaid this now?
For childrens Of God to Unite and form one thing, what they do is chop each other up.
Tobby
Eishhh Xhosa's and Eastern Cape again???? fighting for positions at church, chasing a minister away or unholy war??? it's what they always do, they are so used to that- Baqhelile maba yekwe babulalane qha.
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hey wena dom kop....dont use that little brown pikinini between your legs to think, your head is there for the assignement! Report Abuse
Nov 13, 2012
paracute
Master Piece, this should be written in guinea's book of records, there have been fights and arguments in churches but i never heard of anything as groot as this. Report Abuse
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candilious
What is happening "Face it the world coming to an end ...........................Report Abuse
maneater
its a holly war!!!Report Abuse
BrizzyPistol7
Amagedon.Report Abuse
Right-Back-Khumalo
We are really an angry nation, aren't we? This is a very small issue and it could have been verbally resolved, especially as these are church people. It seems people don't care about sins anymore. Who goes to a church carrying a gun?Report Abuse
MGEEZ
What an angry bunch of church members????Report Abuse
THEmadame2B-BBEE
there is no peace thereReport Abuse
Mokwepa
i blame mayonnaise hereReport Abuse
ISIDINDI
'...render your hearts not your clothes...'Report Abuse
MGEEZ
@Right-Back-KhumaloWe are really an angry nation, aren't we? This is a very small issue and it could have been verbally resolved, especially as these are church people. It seems people don't care about sins anymore. Who goes to a church carrying a gun?
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Indeed!!!! One thing i can tell you though is that those who carried guns to church did not go there to worship; but to fight.
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andmuchmore
oh my God//////////Report Abuse
MGEEZ
@Mokwepai blame mayonnaise here
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Which one? Nola or Cross and Blackwell
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seribe
Where do pangas,guns and knives comes from in a church? Indeed the world come to an end it seems as if it was a planned battleReport Abuse
Mokwepa
@MGEEZ@Mokwepa
i blame mayonnaise here
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Which one? Nola or Cross and Blackwell
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Mpongo..Zim brand
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Mygirl
Amaweseli.... ssssssies maan niyanyanyisa..!!!!! Phu..!!Report Abuse
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
Bible-clutching women wearing bright red and white church uniforms were forced to flee as fellow Methodist Church of Southern Africa members attacked other worshippers in a church yard at Mazizini vil.lage near Mthatha on Sunday morning.*******************************************************************************************************
I can just imagine abomama bomthandazo scremaing and running for dear life
F*&^% why are we such an angry nation.......... what happend to the KIND in humankind???
Report Abuse
Danielrjvvuren
We are in the "African Renascence" so what would it be without some Christian bashing I guess?Report Abuse
MabhebezaEC___69!!!
Illuminati @ it's best!!!!!Report Abuse
RobinX
In a church nogal. We have really become a blot of shame on this continent. Going to church with weapons has to be the worst travesty of religion I can imagine. SIS!!!Report Abuse
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
Blame ANC.Report Abuse
Bumboklaat
KatakataEmaotoAditshepeBlame ANC.
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Blame the colonianization of the African mind and loss of culture, also the money making schemes they call churches robbing our people blind in the name of the "saviour". There wouldn't be any fighting if there was no money and power involved!
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MabhebezaEC___69!!!
@BumboklaatKatakataEmaotoAditshepe
Blame ANC.
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Blame the colonianization of the African mind and loss of culture, also the money making schemes they call churches robbing our people blind in the name of the "saviour". There wouldn't be any fighting if there was no money and power involved!
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Well said my man, well said!!!!!
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Papage
The devil is inside the Church, They Pastor Zondo & MbhoroReport Abuse
Papage
Ke Mawesele? I dont believe my eyes, what happened? now where must we go pray then if the head Office is doing this?Report Abuse
RobinX
Bumboklaat: Don't be a knuckle. Not everything is caused by colonialism. This is just plain ridiculous factionalism and cannot be defelcted away from the people that go to a church armed to the teeth. Get real, man.Report Abuse
Papage
I just wonder how do the Minister get to Preach the word of God after thatReport Abuse
MGEEZ
@PapageThe devil is inside the Church, They Pastor Zondo & Mbhoro
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He has been for a long time; only people who have an unhealthy appetite for arguments will deny that, for the scripture is replete with such warnings of wolves in sheep clothing etc
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Bumboklaat
@RobinXBumboklaat: Don't be a knuckle. Not everything is caused by colonialism. This is just plain ridiculous factionalism and cannot be defelcted away from the people that go to a church armed to the teeth. Get real, man
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If you are the former RobinH then I am disapointed that you would just shoot from the hip and call me a knucle! whatever that is I don't like it! I have read your comments before and you are a very liberal commentator. I have disagreed with some of your opinions and chose not to comment because as much as I disagreed they were your opinions! So my dear sir! or should I say baas! I take offence that you would call me a knuckle simply because I express my opinion. It is my observation that most of the things instilled by colonialism was passed on from generation to generation by our forefather and the forefathers before them! Hence my comment! If you think you are better or smarter than everyone then I got news for you! You are only a person and can never be better than everyone and I do not care how many degrees you have or from under which rock you crawled! Just to fcuk with me! Verstaan?
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antie
I can relate to this kind of anger. Every easter Monday, some very small (about 20 members) Nigerian church group gather 2 houses away from me. They put about 20 massive speakers outside, and from 10 in the morning till all hours of the night, the pastor screams all kinds of wors.hip and h.ell and damnation over the speakers. He can be heard 5 blocks away. I have tried to tell him that he does not need to shout for God to hear him, but to no avail. That day I cannot even hear the TV inside my house. I am waiting for easter Monday 2013. He is going to personally experience he.ll and damnation.Report Abuse
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
But after all they're imperfect humans as you are there's nothing wrong about them let them fight they have the right to bl@ksem each other.Report Abuse
Dubul'Amanzi
MsKinkyakaKamaSutraBible-clutching women wearing bright red and white church uniforms were forced to flee as fellow Methodist Church of Southern Africa members attacked other worshippers in a church yard at Mazizini vil.lage near Mthatha on Sunday morning.
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I can just imagine abomama bomthandazo scremaing and running for dear life
F*&^% why are we such an angry nation.......... what happend to the KIND in humankind???
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I think we need to pray my sister,I will start a church here ko Sowetan.
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THEmadame2B-BBEE
they fight for leadership, i this shows how desperate people are to be in the position of power even at church, because they want to control, the only person who was able to do that was Jesus because he had spiritually transcended as a demi-god, so ppl must just stop being stupidReport Abuse
Hail
Ja ne, is it the end of time? the problem is people want to own the church and become attached to the material things of the church. @papage ke mawesele! ijoo ga balwa ko godimo rona ko tlase re reng?Report Abuse
joyful
@antieLOL! our brothers from Naija think the power is in the voice-o, you have to shouti and shouti! Chineke go hear well-well, He go do miracles - even you their neighbourso, go hear-o; in the end you go come join and leavi your sacrilege and abomination!
LOL!
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MabhebezaEC___69!!!
llluminati, Freemasons @ work here i tell you!!!!!!!Report Abuse
RobinX
Bumboklaat> With respect, your remark required shooting from the hip. You are far to free with your blaming colonialism. As long as people use such clearly outmoded notions to escape the real issues we will never get anywhere. I am indeed RobinH, and I stand by my remark. I am just sick and tired of knee-jerk blame colonialism, blame Apartheid, blame some imagined agent responses one comes across, whyile not even bothering to look closely at the situation in which modern day South Africans willingly place themselves. It is a pity that you seem unable to look past a very distant past. Rather blame greed.... and for that one could conceivably blame a way of thinking engendered by capital;ist exploitation, but in this instance that would be a real stretch.Report Abuse
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
Waar was Jesus?Report Abuse
antie
Bumboklaat, I've read Robin's response to you, and yours to him. What I would like is for you to explain HOW you relate this incident to colonialism. Just saying it does make you sound as if you are brainwashed to sing a specific tune, so maybe an explanation will go a long way to understand your opinion.Report Abuse
joyful
But this is sad - sad that only one man is in the middle of it all!The reverend, if he truly has the calling - should persue peace at all price. that is what the Word says!
he should be able to call the 2 sactions together, introduce a new pastor and giv his support - then resign! as a shepherd he should put the best interest of God's flock before his own interest!
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!#Sinudeity#!
Even at churches there are rival factions who want to k1ll each other.South Africans, WTF is up with you? Another case of tradition or culture?
Come on!!!
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Dubul'Amanzi
!#Sinudeity#!Even at churches there are rival factions who want to k1ll each other.
South Africans, WTF is up with you? Another case of tradition or culture?
Come on!!!
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Which language (home language) do you speak?
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THEmadame2B-BBEE
MabhebezaEC___69!!!....you are drunk
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antie
Joyful, 2013 easter Monday I am going to take my 12 pet snakes to that yard. I will show him he.ll.Report Abuse
MabhebezaEC___69!!!
@THEmadame2B-BBEEMabhebezaEC___69!!!
....you are drunk
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You must be high on something stronger than alcohol!!!!!
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Dubul'Amanzi
joyfulBut this is sad - sad that only one man is in the middle of it all!
The reverend, if he truly has the calling - should persue peace at all price. that is what the Word says!
he should be able to call the 2 sactions together, introduce a new pastor and giv his support - then resign! as a shepherd he should put the best interest of God's flock before his own interest!***88
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I agree
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!#Sinudeity#!
Dubul'Amanzi - Swahili :PReport Abuse
Dubul'Amanzi
!#Sinudeity#!Dubul'Amanzi - Swahili :P
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Liar I know which language.
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joyful
does anyone have pictures or even a video?this will might make very interesting viewing - those without weapons, were they bashing with bibles and hym books????
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RobinX
Dubul: Fanagalo?Report Abuse
MGEEZ
@Bumboklaat@RobinX
Indeed RobinX is the former RobinH; you cant miss tha; all the traits are there. He knows everything and if you dare disagree with him; either you are a knucle, a twit or you even need to grow a brain; just to mention a few of his vocabulary and to him this condescending attitude is perfectly normal and if you do not like it go fly a kite as he would say or find a mirror for a toy!!!
Report Abuse
Usernamee
Religion & Politics goes hand in hand.....If there can be violence in politics why can't there be violence in in religions....
Muslims are killing Jews and Jews are killing Muslims all in the name of religion....
Problem = people are failing to research what they engage themselves into, and the danger with that is, rational thinking is over-shadowed by emotions born from engaging on something they know little about.
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THEmadame2B-BBEE
MabhebezaEC___69!!!...yeah sure opium………….unlike alcohol, the side effects of alcohol it attacks your cell membrane and then you end up posting stupid comments
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Blackstone.lebs
Weapons in church? what a shame...this is a possible precursor to a new church. Too much power corrupts and usually results in such fights and splinter groups.Report Abuse
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Dubul'Amanzi - At the moment, the two languages I use the most at home is Java and C#.Report Abuse
Dubul'Amanzi
!#Sinudeity#!Dubul'Amanzi - At the moment, the two languages I use the most at home is Java and C#.
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You speak Xhosa,ngikubamba ngomoya,yaz kuthi ngikutshele indaba zakho If you don't mind.
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Yotywa
Never a dull moment in SA, I wonder in other countries?Report Abuse
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Dubul'Amanzi - I can speak a little bit of Xhosa, mostly Zulu though.Report Abuse
RobinX
Mgeez: It is so gratifying to see that I made an impression.Report Abuse
Msiphos00
MGEEZ@Bumboklaat
@RobinX
Indeed RobinX is the former RobinH; you cant miss tha; all the traits are there. He knows everything and if you dare disagree with him; either you are a knucle, a twit or you even need to grow a brain; just to mention a few of his vocabulary and to him this condescending attitude is perfectly normal and if you do not like it go fly a kite as he would say or find a mirror for a toy!!!
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Tempers are flying here
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Msiphos00
We have a double ZCC, and the Shembe Church will also be double now my lovely Wesile is doubling up eishhhhhhReport Abuse
Missjoy
Akusibobonke aboyothi Nkosi Nkosi aboyowubona umbuso wezulu. Izwe liya ekugcineni lungisani indlela yenuReport Abuse
Tobby
Eishhh Xhosa's and Eastern Cape again???? fighting for positions at church, chasing a minister away or unholy war??? it's what they always do, they are so used to that- Baqhelile maba yekwe babulalane qha.Report Abuse
nzaco
funny characters here...where is GoaaaatyyyyyyReport Abuse
Bumboklaat
Robin and AntieI said it's colonialism because thats what it is. I did not mention apartheid but it also left an effect on some of our people, whether you guys aprrove of my opinion or not I frankly don't give a m0nkey's b@lls. I have seen the effects of the past, whether it be colonialism or apartheid the fact remains it has affected my people to an extent that they feel that their own cultures and customs are inferior to that of westerners. I will not take kindly to you insulting me and saying I blame colonialism or apartheid. I don't condone people blaming apartheid for their lack of morals or for the fact that they are unemployed. I certainly don't blame apartheid for the fact that I can not afford a house and a car. But I will express my opinion about it's effects on my people because I see it everyday!
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Bumboklaat
@nzacofunny characters here...where is Goaaaatyyyyyy
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Ya san! O fodile?
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Danielrjvvuren
Why stop there lets start blaming the effects of the creation! No wait! On the Spanish Inquisition no black plaque! I see the effects of that everyday! Hows about the effect that Da Vinci had on the world now there is cause and effect for you!Report Abuse
mthosam
devils, people will still join such church in the name of our pastor. refrain from devils of such calibreReport Abuse
Sophisticated_Ignorance
Oh, black people... Just because it happened at a church/ by church goers doesnt make it armageddon or holy war or anything holy... Damn, why do y'all always have to take it there? Pathetic sods, really!!!Report Abuse
Selomakwae
Ao banna "siyakudumisa Thixo ukuba ungu Jehovah"Kutheni icawe eli bhedeshayo??
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antie
Bumboklaat. staaaadig seun. I don't approve, nor do I disapprove of your opinion as I do not understand your opinion because you do not care to explain your opninion. You blame colonialism, and I do not understand why, as in my 69 yrs I have never seen or known of white people fighting like this at a church, so I truly am interested in your opinion. Or do you just blame without thinking it through?Report Abuse
Isicathul'esihloliwe
Kulungile Baba makuyintando yakho..Kulungile Baba!!
Noma besigijimisa ngamaphanga..
Kulungile Baba!!!!
Noma bethi ngi overstayile kulenkonzo
Kulungile Baba!!!!!!!
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mokomakj
Ku wenzajani bazalwane, Uthixo ebe nani ku le xhesha elinzima.Report Abuse
Sophisticated_Ignorance
I rest my case! Total idiocy!!!Report Abuse
RobinX
Bumbo: Whatever. Had enough of this now. Let's just go and chop up a fellow congregant in true colonial fashion, shall we.......Report Abuse
child4real
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I think people before they can comment about spiritual stuff they should introspect themselves first...infact I wonder if this person knows anything about God...!
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Mokwepa
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child4real
The truth is...people should repeant in churches and know that having to just be present in church doesnt constitu holiness.Our God is the merciful god, His luv is amazing ,yes He luvs us all but,it's easy to come to Him.
God needs to be worshipped in truth and in spirit and the only way is the blood of the lamb, that washes away all the sins of the world, to whom you come by lossing yourself.
That lamb is Lord Jesus Christ---
He died for all the sins of the world---
That we may have love and peace---
That we may overcome the sins---
That we may be unite with God the Father--
That we may defeat satan the deciever of man
God is luv and people should stop sins and live a holly life that doesn't have a false pretence.
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child4real
It still say having to wear church clothes and going to church doesn't make you holly at all and so as staying at home not congregating with your fellow Christians.Report Abuse
MGEEZ
@TobbyEishhh Xhosa's and Eastern Cape again???? fighting for positions at church, chasing a minister away or unholy war??? it's what they always do, they are so used to that- Baqhelile maba yekwe babulalane qha.
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What informs this unfortunate statement now?
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MGEEZ
@child4real***Papage***
I think people before they can comment about spiritual stuff they should introspect themselves first...infact I wonder if this person knows anything about God...!
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What informs your statement above?
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CHIEFKHONZAPHI2nd
Things happen like this and some1 tells us that we need cleansing, only people going back to God not churches, Religion or cleansing.Report Abuse
SebolaNtimetseAdikateMoketla
"I like your Christ but I dont like your ChristiansThey're so unlike him"
Mahatma Ghandi
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TrapStar
And yet they say IZIKHOTHANE are F&*KD up, How do you explaid this now?For childrens Of God to Unite and form one thing, what they do is chop each other up.
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Intomb'omxhosa
TobbyEishhh Xhosa's and Eastern Cape again???? fighting for positions at church, chasing a minister away or unholy war??? it's what they always do, they are so used to that- Baqhelile maba yekwe babulalane qha.
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hey wena dom kop....dont use that little brown pikinini between your legs to think, your head is there for the assignement!
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paracute
Master Piece, this should be written in guinea's book of records, there have been fights and arguments in churches but i never heard of anything as groot as this.Report Abuse
nzaco
BoooooooooOOOoooOOoooOOooooOOOooOOOooOOOooOOoOmbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaReport Abuse
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