i have long given up with this minister there's not thing coming from her that will shock me!!! Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Makhosini0408
Remind me again Madam, why are you still a Minister after all your blunders? 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, your time is up. By the way, are you not a parent?
This is a challenge and we need to work together and please just to refresh your memory, please refer to Obama's speech, maybe you will learn something.
As a Minister, you should come up with solutions, that is why we are paying you. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Dubul'Amanzi
Chiefs win it's a headline,Pirates win nothing happen,ai Sowetan. Anyway what do we expect from Angie, she should have resigned long time ago. Report Abuse
BASIC Education Minister Angie Motshekga says pregnancies among schoolgirls and teachers who go to class drunk are not her department's problems.
indeed minister u ddnt sleep wth the kids, nd u neva gave bought teacher liquour to drink, but your responsibility is to enforce discipleine amoungs educators meaning if teacher comes to scholl drunk exercise yr power fire the lot y nut, unfortunately u cnnt keep kids from sliping around at school or after it parets responsibiity. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Makhosini0408
Dubul'Amanzi
You are right. I was thinking about that. No wonder the newspaper is a shadow of itself, a factory fault, if we use this days poloticians terminology. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
maneater
We don't provide beds, we provide pens and books"
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i vividly remembering you saying its not you responsibility to ensure that books are delivered. tell us now , WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILTY so we can hold you accountable? Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
RobinX
Ag listen, lady, as far as you're concerned, NOTHING is your problem. Of all the many disgusting failures in parliament, you take the cake. Your ministry is a complete disgrace, and you don't even have the courage to be quizzed on what undoubtedly IS your problem, the appalling mess in provision of books, so with respect, pardon the raspberry I dedicate to your uselessness: BLEEAAAGH! Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Pabi
We don't provide beds, we provide pens and books"
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yooh! beaf e kana, the department doesn't provide bed but as a parent too we can help teachers and parents to resolve this problem." ngwana ke wa setshaba" Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
MommaC
SUCH COMPASSION
such warmth
such understanding
such a beautiful example of how, in Africa, it takes a village to raise a child
such a magnificent show of maternal feelings
such a delightful understanding of what your duties are
To a certain degree the minister is right. Parents need to start doing what they refuse to do, PARENTING!
Why should teachers be sympathetic to the kids that get pregnant, were these teachers there when the baby making was happening?
Seriously, charity begins at home and parents need to stop expecting schools to discipline kids that are supposed to be disciplined at home.
As for kids not having s3x at school, the minister needs to research on just how many porn clips are in seculation done by school kids in school yards/bathrooms/classrooms. These kids have mastered the art or threesum and orgies. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Capegal
Angie mara yena, ai i give.she doesnt even know how to respond to critics how can we expect her to lead education system????!! Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
candilious
How in name of Hell do you wash your hands ..................But Motshekga washed her hands off this issue as well, saying it had to be addressed by school governing bodies and not the department. Motshekga's stance is different from Health Minister Aaron Motsoaledi who wants condoms distributed at schools to prevent HIV/Aids infections and early pregnancies.
My moer man the teachers are not the gonerning bodies Problem its the Departments problem Angie if you know whats blerrie good for you retract thosse statements and pack your bags
Jeeeez never in my life. Why was health subject takem away in the 1st place ,kids dont even pray in the morning anymore. Bet there aint even Assemblys aswell .
Govement f@cked up big time changing sillybus and sh!t now the Kids & Teachers are suffering and niemand wil die skuld vat .
An idea might seem good on the paper its written on but to carry out thr project is a whole different ball game.
ANC you f@cked up BIG time just admitt and ask for help Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
asaowe
Would like to congratulate Banyana for beating Nigeria lastnyt bring the cup home ladies. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
DeOvi
the books u claim u are providing, are supposed to teach leaners about evrething that is happening in life (particularly life science/biology and life orientation). if teenpreg is not ur problem then wat are ur teachers teaching the leaners in the said subjects. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
RobinX
" we provide pens and books" HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA > WHERE, YOU LYING, UNCARING DISGRACE!!! Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Buc4life
Morning All
Minister; teenage pregnancy is very much your problem as it is everyone`s. How can you even say that, and how is it not your problem? Is it not your department`s problem when children drop out of school. Does education not affect our economy?
Do you even understand the importance of the department you run? Yes, we know that it is parents responsibility to teach children about such things. Ultimately, it is the government`s(which you are a part of) problem.
Minister; can you just for 1 minute think of the bigger picture?
@lerato777777 - i second u!!!!!! yerr what exactly is her problem? Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
DeOvi
We don't provide beds, we provide pens and books"
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then wat are the life orientation books all about??? Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Tobby
The only remedy for this is that SCHOOL GIRLS WHO ARE PREGNANT MUST BE DISMISSED FROM SCHOOL WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT as the old goverment used to do, this is rubbish to allow the children come to school pregnant, a mother and a scholar are two different things and they can't be mixed together........... NX Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
candilious
@Robin- My hell i nearly fell from my chair reading that part if i could i would throw caynnne pepper in her blerrrie mouth Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Shredder
Teenage pregnancy is mostly the government's problem due to the demonic, ungodly laws that were introduced after apartheid. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Tsar-Rasputin
Straatmaat will remain straatmaat, whether Minister or Pastor's wife!!! Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Shredder
"They don't have sex at schools, "
Actually they do madam. There was news of a video from the Kagiso school where kids were having sex in the balcony in front of everyone. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Buc4life
Chichi7
To a certain degree the minister is right. Parents need to start doing what they refuse to do, PARENTING!
Why should teachers be sympathetic to the kids that get pregnant, were these teachers there when the baby making was happening?
Seriously, charity begins at home and parents need to stop expecting schools to discipline kids that are supposed to be disciplined at home.
As for kids not having s3x at school, the minister needs to research on just how many porn clips are in seculation done by school kids in school yards/bathrooms/classrooms. These kids have mastered the art or threesum and orgies.
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hello there
Yes the minister is right to a certain extent, but she does not know what to say, then she nust not say anything.
The government is the ultimate custodian of our children. Where parents fail, government must step in. Charity does indeed start at home. However, we live in a society characterised by degenerating values and morals. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
RobinX
And who is responsible for disciplining teachers who misbehave (drunk teachers in your words)? SA Breweries? Get real you useless piece of ****. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Buc4life
Shredder
Teenage pregnancy is mostly the government's problem due to the demonic, ungodly laws that were introduced after apartheid.
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Hello.
No. Parents fail to teach children. They, themselves, are not good role models for children. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Shredder
This minister never says anyting good with her mouth. During the formation of COPE she said, "the dogs are gone". Now she says "We don't provide beds, we provide pens and books".
The only way to fix this country is to bring back apartheid :-D Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Stimela
Angie is a bad Minister, but she is correct on this one, teenage pregnancy should be solved by the parents.
Shredder
This minister never says anyting good with her mouth. During the formation of COPE she said, "the dogs are gone". Now she says "We don't provide beds, we provide pens and books".
The only way to fix this country is to bring back apartheid :-D
The minister is right. Home is where values, restraint etc must be taught. It is a lazy or incompetent parent that offloads is parenting job on society or schools. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
MommaC
No people. When you drop your kids off at that school gate, the school becomes responsible for your child. It is up to them to make sure that the people, who are acting as your child's temporary parents, are CAPABLE. It is Angie's responsibility to make sure that the parenting of children, whilst they are in her care, is of the highest standard. That includes making sure that they aren't being boinked by teachers for better grades and not being left without supervision. Report Abuse
Pointman
The minister is right. Home is where values, restraint etc must be taught. It is a lazy or incompetent parent that offloads is parenting job on society or schools.
Correct, we parents passing a bug here, we fail in our own homes that a fact. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
ANGIE there is something called Sex-education ask the Americans they even have a curriculum in their schools Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
TLekota
Leave Angie alone, what is saying here is true. You can't blame the department for teenage pregnancies cos it is in their syllabus parents must play a role. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Shredder
Agg, the Pirates trolls now are going to litter every article with their shyte. Please post your Pirates shyte in the relevant article. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Makhosini0408
Buc4life
Morning All
Minister; teenage pregnancy is very much your problem as it is everyone`s. How can you even say that, and how is it not your problem? Is it not your department`s problem when children drop out of school. Does education not affect our economy?
Do you even understand the importance of the department you run? Yes, we know that it is parents responsibility to teach children about such things. Ultimately, it is the government`s(which you are a part of) problem.
Minister; can you just for 1 minute think of the bigger picture?
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Morning Ausi
I think it is a tall order for the Minister to think of the bigger picture. By now we are used to mediocrity during her watch and we are not even surprised. We have destroyed if not damaged the future of our kids, by entrusting her as a Minister. I have reached the conclusion that the the Minister is doing what the ANC wants or it has lost control over her. By the way, their children are receiving a better education at private schools, why must they bother about ours? Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
RobinX
Stimela: She is responsible for providing an environment in which our children are to feel a modicum of hope for their futures. She doesn't. She steadfastly avoids any hint at responsibility for anything remotely connected to her VERY IMPORTANT portfolio on which the futures of our children depend. When the education system is in such hopeless disarray, one can hardly blame the children for being disillusioned and ill-disciplined, without much hope in getting anywhere with the system this rude and uncaring woman is supposed to be controlling, with no success whatsoever. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
RobinX
Pintman, with respect, please don't be ridiculous. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Shredder
@asaowe
bring back in your home
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I said it of course. The sewerage stench that we have to keep with everyday is now unbearable. Please bring back apartheid and this country will be in the world class standard like it used to be. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
bytheway1
Jo! I'm a minister... no responsibility for me, thanks. Another failed ANC leader. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Buc4life
Makhosini0408
Buc4life
Morning All
Minister; teenage pregnancy is very much your problem as it is everyone`s. How can you even say that, and how is it not your problem? Is it not your department`s problem when children drop out of school. Does education not affect our economy?
Do you even understand the importance of the department you run? Yes, we know that it is parents responsibility to teach children about such things. Ultimately, it is the government`s(which you are a part of) problem.
Minister; can you just for 1 minute think of the bigger picture?
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Morning Ausi
I think it is a tall order for the Minister to think of the bigger picture. By now we are used to mediocrity during her watch and we are not even surprised. We have destroyed if not damaged the future of our kids, by entrusting her as a Minister. I have reached the conclusion that the the Minister is doing what the ANC wants or it has lost control over her. By the way, their children are receiving a better education at private schools, why must they bother about ours?
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Hello M.
Long time. You are right. then the question is why are we continuing to entrust our land with such incompetencies? Report Abuse
If your 12 year old daughter wanted to go to a party where you knew the parents were absent and there would be older boys as well as copious amounts of alcohol and drugs, would you let her go?
Now why are you asking parents to let their kids go there every single day of the school year? Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
Jeerr, Black ppl, when I was in private school we were taught sex-education and gender studies as part of the school curriculum, hence the reason why I know that there is something called Plan B (with a high dosage of lenorgestrel), condoms, sexual positions that you can do without falling pregnant, etc. I all learned that tat school, like really what will my parents know about Three, nada, so you learn that at school…………….huhahahah some of us had great education Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Buc4life
Shredder
@asaowe
bring back in your home
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I said it of course. The sewerage stench that we have to keep with everyday is now unbearable. Please bring back apartheid and this country will be in the world class standard like it used to be.
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Shredder. Morn
Apartheid never and will never make us shine. We need to elect wisely. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
The women people say will lead this country when things are tough they wash their hands. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
MommaC
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
this thing doesn't qualify for the title of 'woman' Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
candilious
@Shredder -could not agree with you more . Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Papage
She needs to get her act together, stop talking to Parents like she does not have children, everything happening to school Children is not her problem, what is wrong with Angie? Her role is to make Policies not deliver books, she give Books and pens not bed to lie on, who said sex in only done on beds, she has a stupid man. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Mosquer
Nare mo.s.a.d.i o oreng! Aii! go padile mo Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Buc4life
MommaC
Hello Momma
I think that we can rant and rave all we want about this and everything else that is happening with this government. The bottom line is that we have clueless ministers, it is scary. What scares me the most is that the majority of the citizens keep on voting this government to power.
The bigger picture is that all the departments are falling apart. So, in a way, Angiee`s statement is not surprising. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
candilious
@MommaC- I lus haar met n p@es klap slaan ,imagine
@Kata -More boet ,if you are saying she is right within her right saying this dan weet ek nie stroes .
Past Laws were much better then this. Corparal punishment was a tool to keep kids intact now kids Punish teachers haaibo i Blame all on Gvmt for this Including You Badbek Angie Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Shredder
@Buc4life
Shredder. Morn
Apartheid never and will never make us shine. We need to elect wisely.
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Morning Bucs4life. Congrats for last night.
You are right about electing wise. Now the problem is that the masses will vote the same party that is flushing us down the drain. It is so sad to see the rate at which things are deteriorating in this country. Anyway, that was just a comment. I was not serious about bringing back apartheid. We have a problem here in our hands. And we are the ones that can fix it. Now when we talk about voting for change, meaning a different party, people talk about Mangaung as if Mangaung will bring changes. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
mashima?
Minister you rather say this should be a joined venture, don't wash your hands just like that are you Pilato of the old. No m***n Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
LBS
"We don't provide beds, we provide pens and books"
NO, YOU DO NOT That's a given fact!
Angie is correct up to a point WRT teenage pregnancies BUT they are encouraged by the ANC government (to which she belongs) who give grants to pregnant children who see this as easy pocket money and NOT as a means to support unwanted children!
Back in apartheid days, pregnant girls had to leave school and find other ways and means to study further. Today the girls come to school sporting their big bellies as if they've done something clever! :(
Teachers coming to school drunk was seldom heard of, and as for teachers impregnating their students, I think it was as rare a hen's teeth!! Today it has become the norm!
THIS education system has been dumbed down so much as to be worthless to learners.
Parents DO NOT educate their children on how having babies restricts choices in the future.
Educators DO NOT educate and prepare their students for the future.
The education department DOES NOT give a rat's @rse about shoddy work/NON DELIVERY of basics to the schools to equip them to teach as best they can.
They've downgraded the pass rate % which tells the kids being mediocre is fine so student don't even bother to try.
In short the whole anc led government has failed the children and she, in her lofty position of "BASIC EDUCATION MINISTER" should be fighting tooth and nail to turn the situation around at grass roots level.
Sex education from an early age is essential so children understand how it will affect their lives and futures.
FIRE predator teachers who abuse their positions.
FIRE teachers who come to work drunk. It is NOT acceptable in any way.
Instill discipline in the schools - start with the teachers and governing bodies and soon the children will understand their rights to good education. Expect more and you'll get more!
Finally DO AWAY with the child grants which is creating a whole new level of poverty and if need be, call a school meeting and advise parents that the girls can get contraceptives.
We have to start somewhere, don't we? Question is, when? Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Flemza
On this one I truelly agree with the minister , schools don`t provide beds for having se.x , but books and class rooms to learn, then how can you blame the minister for tenage pregnancy Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
candilious
@Buc4life- True but really now this has to stop ,i watch the news daily .When my daughter ask me who is this & that minister as i get very aggro when listening to the news .
Every Minister i introduce her too vang net k@k aan kan jy dit oor vertel
Morning Sorry Angie left a bitter taste on my tong Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
MommaC
Buc4life
It is the sheer ARROGANCE that gets to me. How dare she! This is the person who told us that it wasn't her job to deliver books and gave herself '8 out of 10' for fugging up the education and futures of every kid who can't afford Model C schooling. She is such a flippin disgrace!
Maybe if Candi and I both give her a lekker kwaai poesklap, she'll grow some ovaries and become a real woman! Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Chichi7
asaowe
Pointman
The minister is right. Home is where values, restraint etc must be taught. It is a lazy or incompetent parent that offloads is parenting job on society or schools.
Correct, we parents passing a bug here, we fail in our own homes that a fact.
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Totally right. As a parent, i take full responsibility of how my kids behave. I refuse to pass the responsibility to someone else. After all the very same parents are the ones that go ballistic when teachers discipline their kids, so what exactly do parents want? Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Shredder
LOL. FW De Klerk didn't didn't provide beds either, but we didn't have this current problem. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Ruralgirl
Has Angie for a moment thought that maybe.... just maybe.... learners and teachers get involved in such activities due to 'boredom' while awating TEXTBOOKS TO BE DELIVERED'????? Has she ever thought that maybe... just maybe.... the lack of sporting or any other extra-mural activies at most public schools might be contributing to this? What about the fact that there are no libraries and laboratories.....
While I am NOT saying that parents do not have a role to play, I do think that Angie did not think at all before she opened her mouth! I'm utterly disappointed in her! Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@MommaC
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
this thing doesn't qualify for the title of 'woman'
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Angie is a woman.
Passing the bug is passing on a disease. You people mean" passing the buck". Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
candilious
@MommaC- Just looking at her face no blink whatsoever she does not give a f@ck plain in saying fok julle What im saying is right and thats that.
Buck4life after this stunt i am more eager to form some sort of group to ensure that our Communities and fellow elders theat still have their noodles in tact to stand against Govement .Hell its only DA/JUJU making noise
Why not involve the PEOPLE just maybe the COUNTRY stands a chance Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
GrRRRpha
Go Angie your are the wosrt Minister ever. Because your child was fortunate to study in best schools and even got the Mandela scholarship to go study her masters abroad, doesnt mean you can a go @poor parents.
Last you said you are not responsible 4 Textbooks only a policy maker Report Abuse
Kata -More boet ,if you are saying she is right within her right saying this dan weet ek nie stroes .
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More Candy.
Candy she's 110% wrong since parents,teachers and the department have to sit down then come with ideas that could help to better the conditions till they come with something that will end these problems we as SAns face.
candilious
@Buc4life- True but really now this has to stop ,i watch the news daily .When my daughter ask me who is this & that minister as i get very aggro when listening to the news .
Every Minister i introduce her too vang net k@k aan kan jy dit oor vertel
Morning Sorry Angie left a bitter taste on my tong
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We stop it by not voting them to power. Indirectly, we put Angie there. But we all know, how difficult it is for the majority to vote for another party in this country-taking into account are history.
What was the need of basic and higher education office headed by 2 different individuals in the first place??. Here is a minister who is suppose to be responsible in all aspects of leadership competency showing indifference to everything that deserves her attention . And someone who has a kindergarten IQ level is employed as a minister. Would there be a need to take our children to prim-shcool tomorrow or better-off teach them by ourselves at home???? Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@MommaC
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
You brave enough to check?
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Ha re e hake sefoleng etswe e fopha re e bo ne mohlamonene.
@Flemaza, do you eat breakfast? It’s an important meal of the day, in order for your Neurons to work efficiently because they have the amazing ability to gather and transmit electrochemical signals to each and construct what we read and analyse in our daily lives to make sense…….clearly your neurons are dead Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
MommaC
candilious
We are the lucky ones who aren't as badly affected by her incompetence but even we have more compassion for the children than she has. What kind of poephol says that it isn't her job to make sure that HER own staff aren't phuzafaced at work? Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Pointman
MommaC
No people. When you drop your kids off at that school gate, the school becomes responsible for your child. It is up to them to make sure that the people, who are acting as your child's temporary parents, are CAPABLE. It is Angie's responsibility to make sure that the parenting of children, whilst they are in her care, is of the highest standard. That includes making sure that they aren't being boinked by teachers for better grades and not being left without supervision.
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I have a kid in school and I know that teachers do all of the above - in my childs school at least. But it is my responsibility to make sure she grows up with values, avoid recreational sex and alcohol and the diseases that could ruin or shorten her life etc. The life orientation texts I looked at do cover all of the above but it is not the teachers responsibility to replace me in the parenting role. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
WarrenG
It's a combination of the Health department and education dept.
However with these sorts of comments it seriously IS time for Angie to be sacked.
She is a useless sack of shite really... Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Buc4life
candilious
Buck4life after this stunt i am more eager to form some sort of group to ensure that our Communities and fellow elders theat still have their noodles in tact to stand against Govement .Hell its only DA/JUJU making noise
Why not involve the PEOPLE just maybe the COUNTRY stands a chance
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I was thinking of the same. But I tell you it is very difficult to deal with old and new dunderheads who have formed their own uninformed opinions. But, there is nothing wrong in trying.
Yes i concur with her,even all you guys who are commenting now there is no one who encouraged you to sneak at night to do sex, you are right minister Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
MommaC
Pointman
So if the teachers are drunk and everyone is out filming a gangbang on the soccer field, it's fine with you as it won't affect your kid at all? Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
GrRRRpha
We have been watching video's of kids having sex in the school grounds, or maybe its the bedroom according to the Minister Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Makhosini0408
Buc4life
Long time indeed. Where have you been hiding? lol
I am being censured by the webmaster. I think that we are not doing enough or making too much noise for the clowns at Luthuli House to recall her. We have a wonderful proclamation in our Freedom Charter, that clearly states that the doors of learning and culture shall be opened.
Mrs Motshekga is an impediment to the education of our children and clearly she has overstayed his welcome and clueless about why she is the. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
candilious
MommaC- you honestly i hope she retracts her words .You know what NO sh should not cause this is the very point we tried letting people know justy how GOVERMENT belittles its own people
@Pointman -i hear you but back in our day till today i am close and in contact with some of our Teachers whom are still alive. Their are there when we are not .I was somewhat of a rebel which i grew out of it as you speak to your teacher as if it were your parents .Today's teachers cannot even be trusted .So as a parent am i not going to raise this as a concern ,knowing my child in safe hands. And my child knowing right from wrong Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Buc4life
Pointman
MommaC
No people. When you drop your kids off at that school gate, the school becomes responsible for your child. It is up to them to make sure that the people, who are acting as your child's temporary parents, are CAPABLE. It is Angie's responsibility to make sure that the parenting of children, whilst they are in her care, is of the highest standard. That includes making sure that they aren't being boinked by teachers for better grades and not being left without supervision.
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I have a kid in school and I know that teachers do all of the above - in my childs school at least. But it is my responsibility to make sure she grows up with values, avoid recreational sex and alcohol and the diseases that could ruin or shorten her life etc. The life orientation texts I looked at do cover all of the above but it is not the teachers responsibility to replace me in the parenting role.
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Pointman. Yes, you might be doing that, but the average parent does not. Lets look at the bigger picture, please.
It definitely is not the teacher`s responsibility to replace parent`s role but it is the government`s responsibily to ultimately care for the child when the average parent does not. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Juicy-Pipe
A big well done to my Team - Bucs-Zimnyama nge nkane.
Minister your behaviour is so banal, nothing good i expected from you after you stood in public and said all matriculanst are ready to write their final exams while most schools in rural areas were never supplied with basic books required. Only thing that you good seem to be pocket delivery. They don't need any bed but you can book them those hotels and lodges you sleep at when away on useless trips - Wa bora shame . . .
@ THEmadame2B-BBEE come let's put into practice those positions you've learnt in school and see if they work - lol *hide*
Long time indeed. Where have you been hiding? lol
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Have been hiding @ Orlando where joy overflows. LOLest. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Chichi7
One thing i know is most people do not know what they want in life and they usually go where the wind blows.
1. Marikanna killings- everyone went crazy about cops shooting the strikers
2. Truck drikers started being violent and cops did nothing- most started asking why cops were not taking the stance of Marikanna
3. Kids get disciplined at school- most parents say teachers have no right to discipline these kids
4. Pregnancy in school kids has hit the roof, minister says not their problem- most here say it is their problem and they must do something. Pls note that in doing something, it involves discipline which i must point out that is not wanted as in point 3
My question is, how will others know what you want and what to do when you as a person change your story to suit your needs?
People need to learn to take respoinsibility of their failures as much as they take responsibility of their success Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
MOTSOKWANA
Minister i support your statement 100%. It is not the departmemnt resposibility but parents. Contributing factors are tarvens that are all over the place. Tarven owners allow children to buy liquor and they don't care if they are under age or not. You go to parks you will see children drinking liqour free and Metro police officers are not patrolling this areas. This obviously lead children to engage in sex among themselves and its not only adults who made girls pregnant. Another contributiong factor is that this girls want to look good and they cant afford the lifestyle and they resort to sugar daddys who give them money for sex. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
MommaC
Chichi7
so its either shoot everyone dead or do nothing or blxm the sh!t out of a kid with a metal pipe or no discipline at all?
No, doll. Not a single person EVER said that there should be no discipline in schools. The vast majority of us here don't even agree with them taking away a good spanking in schools but there is a big distance between slapping a naughty juniour school kid on the arse and donnering the bejesus out of them with a brick Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
5SKIPAS
Lets be real SAns unless we have a mental illness. In a real world you acn't put the "Minister"and "Teenage pregnancy"on the same sentances, its intirely non of her problems but parents'problems. SHE IS NOT HERE TO SAVE THE WORLD, bt ensure a success and better education to the determined. On drunkards teachers, there are levels n procedures of desciplines and policies guiding the responsible Heads on how to go about (endorsed by the minister of cause). If her policies are not followed and the appointed leaders decided to be mum about them, how is she expected to know of that. GET REAL HYPOCRITES AND GIVE THE MINISTER A BREAK Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Pointman
@MOTSOKWANA - you are right about the tavern owners. Some of them encourage young girls to hang around their taverns to attract clients. They should be put behind bars. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
SLY007
Does Angie have children of her own? If she does, may God have mercy on her. Judging from her utterances, she does not seem to be a parent, nor acting on loco parentis. First, when she was asked about the textbook debacle in Limpopo, she intimated that textbooks are not her problem and as such she does not even know what the children do in the classrooms. If she was a parent, first and a teacher second, as well as a Minister third, she would care to know about all this.
I find it so greatly disturbing that she does not seem to have a heart, as well as empathy that one would expect from a parent or a teacher and a government Minister who has been placed in a position of trust and thus expected to be accountable to those pay her salary at the end of each month. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Papgat
Motshekga is a disgrace, she is seems not to understanding her portfolio. As a minister of education how could one say “pregnancies among schoolgirls and teachers who go to class drunk are not her department's problems”. It has a direct influence Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Lenyora-Buckselona
Makhosini0408
Remind me again Madam, why are you still a Minister after all your blunders? 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, your time is up. By the way, are you not a parent?
This is a challenge and we need to work together and please just to refresh your memory, please refer to Obama's speech, maybe you will learn something.
As a Minister, you should come up with solutions, that is why we are paying you
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Morning sir.I tend to agree with angie on this one.As much as she is a Minister some things are just beyond her control.She cant be a nanny to teachers and kids both which are adults.These schoolkids of nowadays are a lost generation i must say.Nuthing she(angie) or anyone else says can make these kids listen.These kids are the law unto themselves.It comes with self discipline.If these kids cant distinguish right from wrong what are parents and teachers gonna do to remedy the situation,they cant keep an eye on this kids 24/7 or 365 days a year.
As for teachers who are found to be drunk or have impregnated school kids,then they have to be dismissed with emidiate effect.
Voetzek and Motsokwana: Are you two not feeling well, Sir? Get a check-up! Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
MSG_S
"We don't provide beds, we provide pens and books"
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A clear declaration that everybody can be the Minister of Education. It is very simple a job..Provide pens and books, finish and klaar...job done.
Free----dom
free houses,
free education,
free water,
free condoms,
free social grants,
free sex,
free alcohol,
free health care
Nxaaaa Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Pointman
@SLY007 - she has kids. Her daughter was busted for possession of drugs in school a few years ago. She was charged and brought to court through the back door where the case was quickly done away with. Journos who tried to take photos were assaulted and threatened.
I am no fan of Angie but she is right on the pregnancy issue. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Serene
where are the parents in this? dont this kids have parents? what role are parents playing here?????
as much as it might be the dept's respo it is also parents resp.... Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Mmabunang
We don't provide beds, we provide pens and books"
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Excuse me Mam, which books??? the ones u delivered last months in limpopo instead of delivering at the beginning of the year? U incompetent minister mxm Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
khanyiso
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS WOMAN, WHICH TEXT BOOK AND PEN DOES HER DEPARTMENT PROVIDE, I MEAN REALLY NOW, "They don't have sex at schools, they have sex at homes...We don't provide beds, we provide pens and books "
Dear minister
THEY HAVE SEX AT SCHOOL BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO AT SCHOOL, THEY DO NOT HAVE TEXT BOOKS, (not that i am making an excuse for teachers that sleep with young girls they arew just plain SICK)
PLEASE TAKE RESPOSIBILITY, AND STOP MAKING EXCUSES
Chichi7-People need to learn to take respoinsibility of their failures as much as they take responsibility of their success
_____________________________________I agree so why does Goverment not just Account thta they f&cked up big time Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Shredder
@RobinX
Voetzek and Motsokwana: Are you two not feeling well, Sir? Get a check-up!
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Morning Robin.
Do you know what Motsokwana is? It's a pen!s or d!ck, go figure. The other one is Voetzek. Now tell me how we cannot have problems of teenage pregnancy when people pride them with such names. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Sweetcakes
The cheek of this woman. I'm shocked beyond belief. Someone remind me why she's still minister. Report Abuse
So if the teachers are drunk and everyone is out filming a gangbang on the soccer field, it's fine with you as it won't affect your kid at all?
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Of course not - I made it clear in my comment that it is the teachers responsibility prevent delinquent behaviour in school but if you kid lacks the common sense to avoid destructive behaviour then it is not entirely the schools fault. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Son-of-Bhuthelezi
rhaaaaa she needs to be removed from that post this agly morron.
it is the department's problem they should step in to assisst not come here tell us that its not their problm Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Chichi7
@ MommaC- I still maintain the stance that it is the reposibilty of the parents to take ownership of what and how their kids behave. The school has a responsibility to teach and maintain discipline not only from students but teachers as well.
I do not condone killings nor thrashing kids to brink of death but i am for the fact that no one takes responsibility for who you birthed than yourself.
I refuse to point fingers on what is my problem. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Shredder
@khanyiso
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Ausi Khanyiso, please be kind to us by not using Capital letters. They make it difficult for some if not many people to read. Actually it is the etiquette on web forums, blogs etc. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Son-of-Bhuthelezi
they F@#$kn dont even provide those book tseek Report Abuse
They don't have sex at schools, they have sex at homes...We don't provide beds, we provide pens and books
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But Minister, you hardly provide those pens and books either. Matriculants at Mashobela High School in Limpopo are today writing their examination...still waiting for pens and books. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
KeRataBasadi
Mara vele, parents need to take responsibility, whats a minister to do when you have children that wash their hands in ultramel, burn carvela's, colour block like crazy and don't bother with school but rather impress girls, its their own parents that are enabling these brats and why are they not reporting rapist teachers to the police or making sure homework is done at the very least, most of these parents are outsourcing their responsibilities to government, then again Angie says her job is to provide pens and books, we all know how good a job she's doing right there. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
ManoftheSoil
RobinX - RobinX
And who is responsible for disciplining teachers who misbehave (drunk teachers in your words)? SA Breweries? Get real you useless piece of ****.
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is this the way you generally speak in yor world, or you just trying to be controversial in these bloggs, you sound like a true disgrace, you and your sone there Sin , i just can nenver take your emotional, comments with hatred serious, you seriously need a life, you have too much time for typing Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
MommaC
Pointman
I'm not sure how old your kids are but take my word for it, they are all delinquents. That is why they need parents and adult supervision. Their brains have not developed sufficiently to take responsibility for their own lives and they are stupid so they do stupid things. It used to be called 'peer pressure' - not sure if it still is.
we aren't talking about the nice suburban Model C schools here, we are talking about the gangland schools and the squattercamp clans. Do we simply say that they are 'bad blood' and those kids should be abandoned to a never ending cycle of misery?
Nobody is suggesting that the teachers should take over the responsibility of being their full time parents but asking that (whilst in the schooling system) they are kept in school, safe, away from drunkards and supervised - that isn't asking anything more than that the teachers do their jobs. That is Angies responsibility.
It is 'not' her responsibility to supply books, it is 'not' her responsibility to make sure teachers aren't pedophiles, it is 'not' her responsibility to make sure teachers aren't drunk, it is 'not' her responsibility to make sure teachers are in the classrooms, it is 'not' her responsibility to make sure kids don't bunk ...... what exactly is this woman's responsibilities? Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
RobinX
ManoftheSoil: When people behave as disgracefully as this woman does, indeeed that is how I address them. They deserve no better. I have no connection to Sin and as you may have noticed, I frequently disagree with him. I hold my own opinions proudly, and with respect, I don't really care if you, or anyone who actually supports this kind of nonsense, take me seriously, as I don't really care what yes-men and deliberately blind people think. Please have a wonderful day.
Shredder, Indeed yes. It never ceases to amaze (and amuse) me to see the names by which the most idiotic readers choose to brand themselves with. Clearly too brainless to grasp irony. Report Abuse
MommaC
No people. When you drop your kids off at that school gate, the school becomes responsible for your child. It is up to them to make sure that the people, who are acting as your child's temporary parents, are CAPABLE. It is Angie's responsibility to make sure that the parenting of children, whilst they are in her care, is of the highest standard. That includes making sure that they aren't being boinked by teachers for better grades and not being left without supervision.
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How on earth is she (angie) supposed to do that.Put chips on each and every kids shoulder to monitor their each and every movement?Thats impossible.Kids should be self-discliplined first before teachers can do anything.How many kids have dropped out of school because they dont wanna adhere to schools rules and regulations.Lets not blame the education systemor angie cos sumthings are just beyond her controll truly speaking. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@December
Sowetan where is my comment.
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There's technological pr#blem please be patient.
@ Pointman @ Serene - While I am aware that she is not entirely solely responsible for what happens outside the classroom, she's wholly responsible for what takes place in the school yards. For instance, the teachers (some of them) are partly responsible for ill-discipline, sleeping with the pupils, and are thus responsible for some of the the pregnancies. Not so long ago, Sowetan published a stroy where a teacher was actually abusing a 15 year-old child in the presence of her school mates, while a mathematics lesson was supposed to be conducted. These are happening within the school yards, hence she should come up with a way to deal with such detestable acts and should desist to shoot from the top without a shred of empathy to the challenges that parents are facing. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Dzel
The pro.blem with Angie is she la.cks the so.cial and emo.tional inte.lligence that should be a prere.quisite for someone entr.usted with the future of our kids. To say kids have se.x at home is miss.ing the point completely, in many cases kids me.et at school and spend their time together at school only then will they go have se.x at home but most of the inte.raction is at school. Wor.se still vid.eo fo.otage circulated around recently pro.ves there is a lot of se.x that takes place on school gro.unds the Joules inci.dent being the ca.se in point but this is more prev.alent than she thinks. Then there is the teacher-pu.pil relati.onships, ra.pe of school girls by teachers and let us not be na.ive as we also have school girls sedu.cing teachers for favo.urs, I’ve heard of kids flas.hing at m.ale teachers.
Her comments are not only inse.nsitive but are indic.ative of who.lesale den.ialism by her department. Even if she was right, schools are there to build hol.istic individuals and comp.lement parental guid.ance. No one is asking her to provide cond.oms but teach the kids about se.x and the conse.quences of their actions, why is that so diff.icult for the department to do?
Many kids end up dro.pping out of school because they are pre.gnant, tee.nage pregna.ncies are a hea.dache for the department one would have thought she would be at the fo.refro.nt of the ba.ttle so we minimise the ri.sks and hea.daches that come with pregn.ancies. Then she lo.ses it completely when she says her s is to deliver school books, gee.z this woman lives in her own par.allel univ.erse where she is perfect but in this uni.verse she is a disa.ster of a mi.nister.
RobinX
Let me tell you about myself. On weekends i spent most of my time in tarvens and we drink with these girls and i have slept with so many of them. i am not proud of what i am doing but if tarven owners allow them in a place of liqour what must we do. Their bodies can deceive you, thinking its an adult only to find you slept with a child. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Sifebe
Gogo u don't always need a bed to have sex. U've proven that u r too old. Please retire now Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
oh, forgot,
the science lab
the sports ground,
the library (that's if ya'll black ppl school have one)
the teacher's desk
the admin office
the SANitorium Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
December
why blame dept of Education what are parents doing do they lecture their children about sex do they ask thier children how was school do they look at their books to see what they did at school you will find this kids standing at the street corner ba jola if you choose to be kuku friendly then the resukts will be pregnancy and if you are not using any contraceptive you will get the result of a baby as old as i am i know that if i sleep with a guy without using a condom or contraceptive the results will lead to pregnancy common sense this kids they know very well what they are doing so lets not put the blame on teachers some of the teachers are bad as well but there are good teachers very soon the schools will be closing in that period who should take responsibility of your kids the dept of Education haai bo this kids they will be drinking and having sex like tomorrow its not coming this kids they make porn videos of themselves having sex plaese lets not blame the dept of education last year there was a picture of boys from Kagiso going to school drinking beer so who do u balme parents, dept of Education or the kids Teachers who jola with this school girls are fucken messed up Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Makhosini0408
Lenyora-Buckselona
Morning sir.I tend to agree with angie on this one.As much as she is a Minister some things are just beyond her control.She cant be a nanny to teachers and kids both which are adults.These schoolkids of nowadays are a lost generation i must say.Nuthing she(angie) or anyone else says can make these kids listen.These kids are the law unto themselves.It comes with self discipline.If these kids cant distinguish right from wrong what are parents and teachers gonna do to remedy the situation,they cant keep an eye on this kids 24/7 or 365 days a year.
As for teachers who are found to be drunk or have impregnated school kids,then they have to be dismissed with emidiate effect.
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Morning Sir
I hear you but beg to differ on refering to them as lost generation. I think the children are are photo copy of the original, which is us in a way. As a Minister, Mama Motshekga must provide an enabling environment for effective teaching and schooling to occur. She cannot say that kids do not have sex in school? How many of our sisters lost their viginity at school or sleept willingly with teachers on school premises and also to divorce herself from a challenge is poor leadership. She needs to go and this proves that she is not equal to the task and she must vacate her position.
I agree that we are all in this together. We need a holistic approach to ensure that our children are educated, school are not a breeding ground for horny educaters, who cannot pull themselves towards themselves. I suggest that we need to blacklist truant teachers, but SADTU will always protect them. We are in a catch 22, situation, unless we all agree that we need educated leaders, not izikhothani, osiyanyova leading us in the future. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
SharpSharp
I am very dissapointed about this Minister she forget that she is a parent before being a minister...We dont expect her to give children Condoms thats Dept of Health ' respon..., but she must work together with other deprtments as her dept is the one that hv the majority of children and youth... She will be involve whether she likes it or not...Unless she wanted to resign...
If JZ become the Presi... i just want to see were is he going to appoint this girl Angie... Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
MommaC
Chichi7
So what do we do with these kids who had no say in being born to start with? "Oh shame, just do us a favour and curl up and die a horrible death because you were unlucky enough to be born to a 15 year old slag who is more interested in finding a shabeen than bringing you up". School should be a haven for that child, not a death sentence
I know kids who came from the most despicable conditions and clawed their way out due to an education. If they hadn't had that opportunity then they would be simply another circle in the spiral. There are stories that would make your hair curl about 'jackrolling' and being force fed tablets at school. Even for the most caring of parent, unless they are willing to follow the kid 24/7, there is nothing they can do to prevent that. It is the SCHOOL who must prevent that and that IS barking Angie's responsibility Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@MOTSOKWANA
......what an ignorant black person, jeeerr moeskond, you even go to taverns!tlitlitlitli kwakwakwakwa o ghetto
......and your ugliest face is not our problem. Our problem is that you don't take your department's problem more serious hence we have more problem in our education system. You are a pain in the @ss to this country. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Serene
SLY007
@ Pointman @ Serene - While I am aware that she is not entirely solely responsible for what happens outside the classroom, she's wholly responsible for what takes place in the school yards. For instance, the teachers (some of them) are partly responsible for ill-discipline, sleeping with the pupils, and are thus responsible for some of the the pregnancies. Not so long ago, Sowetan published a stroy where a teacher was actually abusing a 15 year-old child in the presence of her school mates, while a mathematics lesson was supposed to be conducted. These are happening within the school yards, hence she should come up with a way to deal with such detestable acts and should desist to shoot from the top without a shred of empathy to the challenges that parents are facing
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I agree with you, but it seems like there is one element that is being forgotten here..parents...ppl are blaming the education minister forgetting that parents are a critical part of the education systm.we must not shift the blame Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Usernamee
Motshekga is right some how, its broken families who are creating this...
why have kids if you not gonna be responsible to engage with them on these issues, why leave this to the teachers.
Teachers are responsible for their specific curriculum not broken family legacies.
You people can blame her in most issues, but in my opinion in this one you got it wrong, learn to be responsible parents.
In times like this we need leadership to give direction to the ppl but Angie decided to provide arrogance.... Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
Mama Angie tenderpreneur will suit her ministership is not her type ,"We don't provide beds, we provide pens and books" she talks exactly like an old gogo who plays mochina.
THEmadame2B-BBEE
oh, forgot,
the science lab
the sports ground,
the library (that's if ya'll black ppl school have one)
the teacher's desk
the admin office
the SANitorium
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Hahahahahahaha yeah, even under the desk in class while the teacher is teaches..
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MOTSOKWANA
RobinX
Let me tell you about myself. On weekends i spent most of my time in tarvens and we drink with these girls and i have slept with so many of them. i am not proud of what i am doing but if tarven owners allow them in a place of liqour what must we do. Their bodies can deceive you, thinking its an adult only to find you slept with a child.
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Ya bra i know what you mean...them chicks in tarvens are hard to resist and they easy 2 Fak... Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
SLY007
@ ThirdEye - Quite right! Moreover she must be grateful that her boss (the president) probably on account of the fact that she had to swing her WL votes for Mangaung. If it was another president who is not so myopic and does not know the value of education in our society, she would have since been sent packing. Report Abuse
Why is it impossible to find a child from the towns family background dropping out at school as result of child pregnancy compared to rural and township girls Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Sentle
@Angie, then tell your teachers(the ones employed by the department of education of cos)to stop sleeping with pupils.
Who are you and who are teachers.Dont you know that you and those teachers who sleep with these girls and boys are one? Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
candilious
All well yes its not the responsibility of the School /Department but the parents to install good value into our kids.
But you send your child to school with the hopes that he/she will get an even advance teroputic manner of Education which most of the kids come home and share with the family what their have learned right. The Department which changes rules and regulations on a daily base confuses the Teachers who inturn gets frustated and these frustration gets taken out on the kids.
Who in turns retaliates to the teachers and there we haveit Angie Who do we blame Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
asaowe
December
We parents like to shift the blame, it so true we allow corruption to happen in our own houses, boyfrds nd grlfrds sharing dinner wth parents. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Pitso.MCCMA.SAFA
There is no minister here,she is minimonster. Her comment that pregnancies among schoolgirls and teachers who go to class drunk are not her department's problems is unacceptable,irresponsible and naive.Maybe she was trying to be radical and found herself spitting these directionless and unguided statement. Education is a very broad concept,it does not rotate around pen and pencil,it starts with those and reach susceptible parts of community. Teachers are older than learners,but that does not mean that they are life masters,if there is a need the department should intervene in a form of workshops to imrove life style of teachers. We are tired of these ministers and their rowdy president whom always avoid thier obvious responsibility.
THEmadame2B-BBEE
I'm not a fake like you, im kasi guy Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
DeOvi
@Flemza
On this one I truelly agree with the minister , schools don`t provide beds for having se.x , but books and class rooms to learn, then how can you blame the minister for tenage pregnancy
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which books did xe provide, which classrooms did xe provide cos trees are the only classrooms available. And again teachers are not enough at schools Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Lenyora-Buckselona
KeRataBasadi
Mara vele, parents need to take responsibility, whats a minister to do when you have children that wash their hands in ultramel, burn carvela's, colour block like crazy and don't bother with school but rather impress girls, its their own parents that are enabling these brats and why are they not reporting rapist teachers to the police or making sure homework is done at the very least, most of these parents are outsourcing their responsibilities to government, then again Angie says her job is to provide pens and books, we all know how good a job she's doing right there.
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Dankie san.Well said. Report Abuse
@Heavelydevine....didn’t it ever occur to you that you might be easy to Fxk as well, i mean what makes you think that women never prey on man…like really, I go to certain places to prey on Man, and I get what I want, a good FXk, Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
MobBim
I don't like the tones she is using but she is telling the truth parent must also take responsibility when comes to parental care.... raising child is not an easy thing I can say is a collective effort including community, relative and family hold hands...unfortunetely minister told the truth in ugly way Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Blackstone.lebs
Dear Angie
Teachers are department's employees and their bad conduct should be dealt with by the DoE, unless if they're additional teachers employed through the SGB.
School children should be guided by both parents and teachers, it's always been the case and won't change just to satisfy the minister's fear of accountability.
They don't really need a bed to bonk, they can do it on the same desk you're hiding behind while the teachers' out drinking. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Hail
Who told you that sex is done on the bed only? What kind of a parent are you? If you did not have a parental love then Why are sitting in that offfice? What is your respondibility Mam? if you do not have something nice to say just sh*t up. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Little_Dude
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Heavelydevine....didn’t it ever occur to you that you might be easy to Fxk as well, i mean what makes you think that women never prey on man…like really, I go to certain places to prey on Man, and I get what I want, a good FXk,
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don't you have a man in life that can give you a good f%^&, than hunting???? Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Coldcurry
Until parents and the community start realising their responsibilities I am with the minister on this one Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
sabza007
I agree with Angie though, she did not send these horny, money making teenagers to open their legs. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Coldcurry
I think we can only faulter the minister for not being diplomatic otherwise the parents and community should take responsibility of their offspring Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Heavelydevine....didn’t it ever occur to you that you might be easy to Fxk as well, i mean what makes you think that women never prey on man…like really, I go to certain places to prey on Man, and I get what I want, a good FXk,
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Well when it come's to man it's OK with us coz we are not always the hunted we usually think we are the hunters in tarvens..and as a man i know how most women charish their tample's and how hard it can be to get laid with a chick u just met unless u are a skilled guy like me and smooth with the ladies now to the guy's who's game is flat it can be hard 4 dem so going to taverns en buy 3 hunters gold's and couple of cigi's seals the deal 4 ya... Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Tsatsatsa
Angie....I give up. As much as there is an element of truth in what she says, but the choice of words leaves a lot to be desired. She does not understand the role of her department. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Slapgat
Let us all be pragmatic about teenage pregnancy, not only in the Northern Cape but in the rest of South Africa. Research has revealed that teenage pregnancy is more often associated with socio-economic problems. This province is known for alcohol abuse, violence, poverty and child molestation. The same problems also affect provinces like KZN and Eastern Cape.
Research has also found that teenage pregnancy is also associated with child grants offered by the government. Young girls fall pregnant just to access the child grants in order to buy material things like hairddos and fashionable clothes. This is rife in KZN.
Before we begin to attack the Minister, we need to look at the root causes of the teenage pregancy. Issues of socio-economic nature need to be addressed first. Create jobs in the Northern Cape so that communities can be self sustainable. Attend also to the issues around broken families where most of these teenage pregnancies are mostly located. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Kone
She is a disgrace to our revolution!
Im sure u Mama Lilian Ngoyi is turning in her grave!............. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Missjoy
I really think the minister is right here, parents should be held responsible here. Charity begins at home not at school Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Dude...I do have a man..o bora, jerr that guy is boring, so i go hunting only during weekends and i do white man, they take me out overseas trips,,,, Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Slapgat
Katakata
Veered off the point as usual!!!!!!!!!! kikikikikikikikiki......kwakwakwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Report Abuse
Have any of you thought that those 'lost' children are going to be the problem that YOUR children are going to face? Those kids who have no education, 12 kids and a hankering for R16,500 a month are going to be their burden in the future.
Quite apart from the complete lack of ubuntu here, that should be foremost in your minds. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Mmini
They don't have sex at schools, they have sex at homes.
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@heavenly...ok, s.l.o.w.l.y now, didn’t it ever occur to you that you are the hunted, do you know what goes on inside the brains of a woman, this is what we search for, a good DIEK (even if it means going to a tavern drinking 3 ciders and cigis from our victims) we go for it, we fantasise a lot, haven't you noticed in the flat that you stay that it is security guards who Fxk those woman who drive di Benz and BMW and then give them only klippa as a tip Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
MommaC
As Elvis said :
As the snow flies
On a cold and gray Chicago mornin'
A poor little baby child is born
In the ghetto
And his mama cries
Cause if there's one thing that she don't need
It's another hungry mouth to feed
In the ghetto
People, don't you understand
The child needs a helping hand
Or he'll grow to be an angry young man some day
Take a look at you and me,
Are we too blind to see,
Do we simply turn our heads
And look the other way
Well the world turns
And a hungry little boy with a runny nose
Plays in the street as the cold wind blows
In the ghetto
And his hunger burns
So he starts to roam the streets at night
And he learns how to steal
And he learns how to fight
In the ghetto
Then one night in desperation
A young man breaks away
He buys a gun, steals a car,
Tries to run, but he don't get far
And his mama cries
As a crowd gathers 'round an angry young man
Face down on the street with a gun in his hand
In the ghetto
As her young man dies,
On a cold and gray Chicago mornin',
Another little baby child is born
In the ghetto
And his mama cries Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
MGEEZ
How did this woman who clearly is clueless of what her portfolio entails become a minister of primary education?? Let me guess....she also is a cadre of the ruling party!!! Pathetic.... Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Gijima
Education does not have a minister here. she always denies her responsibilities.I give up Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@Slapgat
Katakata
Veered off the point as usual!!!!!!!!!! kikikikikikikikiki......kwakwakwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Wena o nkentse thaka ya hao and ke tla o roba piel ka mpama. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Laqasha
Specifically on the issue of pregnancy, the minister is spot on. Parents should not pass the responsibility of raising their kids to someone else.It's as simple as that. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
It is the government's problem, they have given these kids too many f*@*& rights.
A spanking has never k.illed anyone but lo and behold the government deems it a criminal offence........ Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
guiliano
This woman, is she the one who is the ancwl president? she is speaking like an immature person. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
asaowe
why there is less pregnancy in white communities compare to us, is it poverty or breakdown of values amoungst africans, fact remain parents should take full responsibility of their kids behavior, y blame minister. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Slapgat
Katakata
Wake up to reality man, Lejapere ke wena!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Shredder
@MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
It is the government's problem, they have given these kids too many f*@*& rights.
A spanking has never k.illed anyone but lo and behold the government deems it a criminal offence........
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Gwede once mentioned that he uses a switch on his children. Yet they don't want other parents to do the same.
I blame satan and his demons for giving our government the laws they have implemented. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
patsa
It is true that teenage pregnancy can not entirely be attributed to the department of education. That being said, there are number of cases where young person’s get impregnated by teachers under the employ of the department. This is the problem of the whole society including families, communities, churches and schools (department). The department of education in recent months/years adopted name and shame campaign for teachers engaged in sexual acts with students. The situation is even more rampant in rural areas as teachers’ exploits impoverished students for their sexual ends. The teenage pregnancy is a big challenge for South Africa. This unfortunately proves to show that the use of protection is still lacking and ultimately the spread of HIV/AIDs epidemic remains the big risk still.
The social media and TV content are dominated are showing pornographic materials. And the edge to learn and experience for young person’s make these things which were ideally meant to improve the lives of the people in turn destroys lives. The use of drugs and peer pressure has strip parents power to command and direct their children. As parents we must take concerted active role and responsibility for upbringing of our children. The small things like weekend sleep away should be avoided because often times that is used as the opportunity to lose self. Further, the stereotypes hold by communities dear for an example to have many girlfriends or boyfriends is cool; this should belong to the past. As festive season is at our door step, while to some this will be an opportune time with the family, unfortunately some people’s future will be destroyed.
Times have changed, cost of living is too high and HIV/AIDs destroy lives of many young persons. The society must revive the spirit of Ubuntu. Your neighbour’s child should be treated in like manner as you would in your child not as a potential girlfriend. We need to revive the moral compass of this country. South Africa is a great nation with rich diverse cultural heritage. We must refrain from allowing foreign influences to disrupt the future of this country. This is not a theory, rather i am talking as someone who was once a victim and took an active decision to be an active parent. I am involved in mentorship for young people, they need true real role models, people who have over came all odds.
This woman is not even fir to be a nanny, let alone a minister of education. Just like she cannot wash her hands of her duties, ANC members and voters cannot wash their hands - it is they who vote for this pathetic bunch who are destroying the futures of our children.
Anyone who voted for the ANCinthe last election is as much to blame for the falling apart of our country. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEE-U know pila pila u don't do that every week and i doubt u slp with dif dieks everyweek u just saying 4 the sake of saying it or myb on the other hand u just a plain H0.... Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Lenyora-Buckselona
@Sir Makhosini.I hear u boss "but" there is a saying that goes "U can take a cow to the river but u cant force it to drink the water" and thats what happening with these kids these days hence i refer to them as the lost generation. I also beg to differ with u when u say our kids are our photocopy's in essence they are but with us growing up we knew that school is school and what its for.When we were still going to school in our days there were no skhothane nonsense going on cos our parents those days were strict and u wudnt wanna rub them the wrong way especially when it comes to education.The problem Sir lies with parents not teachers or Angie.
Again lets look at this skhothane scenario.Who gives these kids money to buy expensive clothes? Parents.Expensive food?Parents.Expensive Phones? Parents.It all boils down to how u were raised at home and that will reflect when u go to the outside world. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Shredder
@Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEE-U know pila pila u don't do that every week and i doubt u slp with dif dieks everyweek u just saying 4 the sake of saying it or myb on the other hand u just a plain H0....
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I know her. She comes from a very poor family. Now that she is earning a buck, she sees herself as a Madam to be. Don't give yourself a headache with her. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Serene
Laqasha
Specifically on the issue of pregnancy, the minister is spot on. Parents should not pass the responsibility of raising their kids to someone else.It's as simple as that.
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very true.....passing the buck is not gonna help anything...we have SGB's. they must collaborate with parents on these socisl issues....and teachers that are out of way must be reported and eliminated... Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Heavenlydevine
@Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEE-U know pila pila u don't do that every week and i doubt u slp with dif dieks everyweek u just saying 4 the sake of saying it or myb on the other hand u just a plain H0....
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I know her. She comes from a very poor family. Now that she is earning a buck, she sees herself as a Madam to be. Don't give yourself a headache with her.
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I just don't think ladies who work and have a BF to behave in this manner thats all. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
sowet123
Mr President and members of women’s league please recall Angie we had enough with these brainless women.
What kind of a mother is she?
@Serene
....and teachers that are out of way must be reported and eliminated...
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Good luck with that one. Their guard dog SADTU will never let that happen. There is a lot of wrong things going on in the country but we are never responsible and take action.
Sinudeity and Traveljunie, please bring back apartheid to fix this country. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Serobapipi-
she's forever horny and thirsty for wine Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Shredder
@Serobapipi-
she's forever horny and thirsty for wine
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Hello Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Tom-Linken
We don't provide beds, we provide pens and books"
It seems like when parents provide beds for their children, they convince them to be pregnat. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
-Cl!ck-
Angie's pregnant.. Her speeches are driven by her hormones.. *No textbook required to figure that one out*
Lets be fair here people.....We all know Angie has drowned the Education Department...BUT PLEASE....She is right, parents should not blame her for their kid's ill-mannes....
YES, she is a minister but for f*k sakes, she doesnt sleep with the children...Whats the parent's role in all this?...Lets be fair Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Heavenlydevine
Serobapipi-
she's forever horny and thirsty for wine
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Ish my sister Ur Name yooooooo how interesting Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
cornelius
@Lehido, the teenage pregnancies is one thing, but drunk teachers is another. How can it not be the department's problem ? They are employees of the dept. Strict discipline must be instlled by the dept. A teacher who arrives drunk, even only a little, or even just alcohol on the breath, must be fired, finish and klaar. How van such rubbish be allowed to teach our children, what example are they setting. For the minister to take this attitude is scandalous - our education wil lnever get right wioth a minister who does not even understand the functions of her department, and the simple fact that teachers are suppose dto be role models, people to whom children look up to. Sies sies sies ! Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
mesip
Angie is 100% correct - parents please fulfill your responsibilities. Angie cannot do everything for you. As parents you have a very big role to play in your children's lives Hello, that is why as human beings we've been given a brain that functions differently from other species. Imagine if we all set on our laurels waiting for the creator to do everything for us!!! It's impossible!!! But then again it is the ANC's fault because it has promised to do everything for us (as we're on this earth to be charity cases) to ensure that it stays in power. Ahehe ANC Ahehe! give & do everything for us as we're parrots!!! Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
RobinX
Heavenlydevine: Your little teenage hormones are going into overdrive, laddie. Careful or your teeny little item might explode. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Droooooza
These school girls ba bonyelwa maan, Angie I second you on that one.... Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
edna
She talks like a naïve retired lost druggie.
Yes it’s not her problem because her children do not have sex at school. WOW! What a stupid comment Angie!!!!! I’ve lost some respect for you and I wonder why Zuma is not firing you and your fat black a**.
Angie is one of those people who are only profound when they are quiet. In fact you may mistakenly assume or think that she is smart when she is quiet until she opens her mouth and then ....... Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Heavenlydevine
RobinX
Heavenlydevine: Your little teenage hormones are going into overdrive, laddie. Careful or your teeny little item might explode.
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Hahahahahahahaha dude my little item gets the jobe done Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Droooooza
edna
you and your fat black a**.
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Heavenly: You DO know that most women fake orgasm to reassure their poor men, don't you. Or aren't you old enough to watch adult talk shows? Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Shredder
@Serobapipi-
Shredder
Hi boys
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How are you ausi serobapipi? Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Heavenlydevine
Just imagine if our country was run by a women... Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Droooooza
RobinX
Hawu pinky gane lewena wa bonyelwa??? I see you are into sex vandag.... Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Shredder
Jy ken my nie, how do i look like, waar bly ek, where did i school, Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Heavenlydevine
RobinX
Heavenly: You DO know that most women fake orgasm to reassure their poor men, don't you. Or aren't you old enough to watch adult talk shows?
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I see you talkng from Experience dude how nice...... Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Heavenlydevine
@Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEE-U know pila pila u don't do that every week and i doubt u slp with dif dieks everyweek u just saying 4 the sake of saying it or myb on the other hand u just a plain H0....
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I know her. She comes from a very poor family. Now that she is earning a buck, she sees herself as a Madam to be. Don't give yourself a headache with her.
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I just don't think ladies who work and have a BF to behave in this manner thats all.
…………and you can behave like this picking up ladies at taverns and when I do it it’s a sin….
.............Patriarchal tendencies
@heavenly.......I'm so blaady disturbed by your comments, you have patriarchal tendencies, and why r u calling me a Ho....then you are a WANKSTA Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Laqasha
@Serene
I agree. Some of these problems, really, have been there long before she was a minister. Also I do think these are larger societal problems and have very little to do with the minister, this one in particular. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Heavenlydevine
Serobapipi-
Shredder
Heavenlydevine
Hi boys
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Hallo fertile your name makes my deik feel pain by only reading it..
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THEmadame2B-BBEE-Ya right a H0 thats what u are and it's not Appropriate for a lady to pick up man every week it's either u weak or u just lost respect 4 yourself... Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Heavenly
...........Kxk u, but its ok for you to do it, shiet i WISH u get an erectile dysfunction Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@heavenly.......I'm so blaady disturbed by your comments, you have patriarchal tendencies, and why r u calling me a Ho....then you are a WANKSTA
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Haow i said it in a good way moss didn't mean to upset u.Sorry neh mara askere basadi bao fasa everyweek we call them h0's no offence by we call them that. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Popeye
Hayi lomfazi uyimbuzi…what kind of mama are you? Really parents protect all children regardless of being their own blood…magogo Angie its time to retire before we tell you to step down…sies Angie sies…PHI!! Do not act in this way. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Shredder
@THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Heavenly
...........Kxk u, but its ok for you to do it, shiet i WISH u get an erectile dysfunction
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Hahahaha. No please, never wish that on anyone. Report Abuse
Lenyora-Buckselon
My argument is that as a Parent, the Minister must not divorce herself from the challenge of teenage pregnancies. She should be calling for solutions so that we can nip this bad behavior. It is not time to point fingers but to call all stakeholders for a solution.
Our upbringing, I agree differs from our children's one. They have more challenges than us. We were not given unnecessary rights. Motshega and her collegues decided that when we punish our children, we are killing their self esteem and they gave them more rights and conveniently forgot that rights go hand in hand with responsibilities.
Still on the subject of teenage pregnancy, I have been asking this question: Who is impregnating our liitle girls, Is it teachers, sugar daddies or their classmates? We need to know, so that we can get to the bottom of this scourge.
I will tell you that some parents are irresponsible and I mean that. Last month, my 13-year old indulged in a drinking spree and guess what, a parent went to the bottle store to buy booze for the kids. Unless and until we re-ignite the same spirit and resolve that we had in the 80's of working together towards a common goal.
...........Kxk u, but its ok for you to do it, shiet i WISH u get an erectile dysfunction
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Ya it's Ok for us man to do it we man it's in our n*ature...en on the other hand wena o m*osadi doing it make u look desperate and Ridiculers plus u become less Attractive...now calm down we only discussing u don't have to be h*ostile Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Tasto_
Minister textbook non-delivery was not your problem but one of your excuses for poor matric pass in Limpompo gonna be text saga, plse don’t use that excuse !!
Indeed you couldn’t ensure delivery of books, expecting you to delivery beds was too much to ask isn’t?
Angie she is right she doesnt provide bed but books and if the school governing body,community and teachers dont help there is nothing she can do cause she set rules that need to be followed but no one follows them Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
RobinX
Tsupe: With respect, how blind can loyalty be? Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Lenyora-Buckselona
@ Sir Makhosini.U see exactly what i said earlier on that we parents as well as teachers cant put micro-chips on our kids and keep track of them all the time.As for your 13 year old indulging in booze is also beyond you and your teachers control,because u are @ work and u presume that your kid is @ school kgante he/she is not.
On the issue of teenage pregnancy i think its our teachers mostly who are impregnating these kids.The reason why im saying this is because have u seen how these teenage girls dress to school in their skimpy mini tunics and uniforms.As a teacher u cant teach properly and u constanlty focusing on this girls mini-skirt.Hence i said parents a still to blame for this for letting their young girls walk out of the house in mini skirt uniforms to school.As for the teachers they shud know better never to sleep with school kids and those who do shud be removed from the education system for life. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Nongoloza24
Wena angie, are those teachers not employed by education department??Are you really saying children don't have sex at school??Where do you get that information mara?? Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Tasto_
@TSUPE - I hope u a decent being where evea u are maar plse think b4 post ppl gonna take u as a liar or fool either way.
Which books she delivered or go to here to refresh your memory-o-fly http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2012/07/23/we-won-t-act-hastily-against-education-minister-over-textbooks---zuma !!
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@heavenly...ok, s.l.o.w.l.y now, didn’t it ever occur to you that you are the hunted, do you know what goes on inside the brains of a woman, this is what we search for, a good DIEK (even if it means going to a tavern drinking 3 ciders and cigis from our victims) we go for it, we fantasise a lot, haven't you noticed in the flat that you stay that it is security guards who Fxk those woman who drive di Benz and BMW and then give them only klippa as a tip
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You are what we call lehure, ke re s'febe sa d'ifebe. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Ayobas
Ja neh, le nna ke bona maspa ao, Zebra Force wins, it's a headline on Sowetan, but THE ALL MIGHTY, MIGHTY BHAKHANIYA WINS, it's "business as usual". Just like Mostweding FM, it looks like when a presenter/mogasi was hired, at the interviews, one of the question were are Chiemps/Chappies, whatever the fcuk names is, suppoter? If your answer was yes, you got the job on spot, but if your answer is "THE ALL MIGHTY PIRATES", you were told that you are over qualified for the job, try next time. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Nongoloza24
MOTSOKWANA
RobinX
Let me tell you about myself. On weekends i spent most of my time in tarvens and we drink with these girls and i have slept with so many of them. i am not proud of what i am doing but if tarven owners allow them in a place of liqour what must we do. Their bodies can deceive you, thinking its an adult only to find you slept with a child.
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My broer I'm with you on that one_these children they mature very quickly and when you see them ko ditarven with their razor cuts, moer ke groot sister....I used to fack them as well ke mo shaye ka nkaoza from behind till a phinye ka nyy00 kikikikikikikikikiki Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
TupacAmaru!
TSUPE
You really have to stop smoking that SHlT because it's messing your brain up. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
The-Vince
But, I support Angie on the fact that it's not their (departments )problem if school girls get pregnant, if the descipline and education is not instilled from home by parents, and parents get drunk infront of their kinds, and they don't get taught by the parents with issues regarding to pragnency and alcohol abuse, the department can offer as much health education classes, but if students don't see that as way of helping them to save themselves, then the department shouldn't be blamed for this. But with teachers getting drunk, the department should be involved and take drastic measures to descipline those found of contravening the law. and again it's no secrete that most students have sex norwadays in school premises, but teachers can't follow students around the school yard all day, and the department cant be blamed for this, but if found descipline should be emposed on students found guilty of puplic indicency. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Tasto_
@The-Vince - "BASIC Education Minister Angie Motshekga says pregnancies among schoolgirls and teachers who go to class drunk are not her department's problems"
So its not her problem drunk teachers @ school ? Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
asaowe
I guess truth hurt so much 2sum parent out there, sum bloggers here are ma gogos already their kids got pregnant, Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Tasto_
"A KwaZulu-Natal school principal accused of raping 11 of his students has appeared in the Scottburgh Magistrate’s Court"
Its not her problem the tragedy above cause she didn't deliver beds nor books!!
WOW, such ignorance from a "parent" entrusted with the running of a department that is fundamental to the growth and progression of this country, basic education!
As a parent (from being a child yourself) you know that from being a toddler, a child goes through their life's journey via the schooling system. It is where they learn how the world works, not at home but at school. Kids spend 9 to 10 hours at school (incl extra murals) and it is where they develop a social understanding of the complexities of life. Home is where parents teach discipline, conduct, manners, decorum and where they impart perspective and rationality. Parents nowadays form part of a "reference" system for kids... unlike us, where the school system was a reference point for the things that were happening in the streets and the world...
It is a sad shame to hear (read about) a parent, a mother, saying all these things. She is there to cash in on her salary and that's about it... Empty leadership where no accountability is established. Underqualified to manage the most crucial department next to HEALTH in any government.
In today's way of life, a child's home is at school. School needs to be made cool again and with people like this in "charge" forget it!
THEmadame2B-BBEE-Hahahahahaha calm down dear it's cool u love sax we get it but why u have a problem when we call u sifebe it's a name i mean the name come's with the actions u do moss..
4. no leader from the womens .... is there any positive statement from her? Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Winilen
I love the minister & she is 100% correct...what are the parents realy doing? SA is so messed up like this because parents are afraid of their own children & expect other people(teachers) to teach their children about life.
Tell them minister...SAns need to catch a wake & take responsible for their actions. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
-Cl!ck-
"Dankie for the nanaz.. Eeeee.. the love.. the love.. for the showpiece.. you must ask the.. ask the.. the.. the.. skippaz if it's 5 or 4.. then you must show for the.. for the.. Zulu @ss and eeee... Sotho what-what!!.."
@Heavenly.....Is jy dof.....What is a Bitch, please make my day Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Nongoloza24
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Nongoloza24
This is fuken bullSHIET, just because i'm a woman love sax then i ma ostracised, I wish you have an erectile dysfunction FOREVER
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You can wish all you like mara ok'salayo uyisfebe....you have a man and yet you go around tarverns hunting for a d!ck??Osfebe man Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
TupacAmaru!
The story below is from another page of Sowetan and may Angie Motshega please read it because sexx takes place not only on beds at home as she suggests but also in the school offices.
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Captain Thulani Zwane said the case was postponed to November 12.
“He will remain in custody until then,” said Zwane.
The 44-year-old was arrested at his school in Umkomaas on Monday after the girls told police that he had raped them in his office.
Police had been at the school to speak to pupils about their rights and had highlighted sexual abuse.
If i can remeber correctly as well textbooks were not deliverd and she also passed the buck..this lady needs to go..as Dr Ramphele she's busy with politics intead of doing her job Report Abuse
Education is probably the greatest gift that we can give our children, in the modern world it is crucial for success and personal advancement...WHY then do we accept such idi.otic and pathetic people such as this du.mb b1tch to take charge of our most valuable future commodity - our kids???
I wouldn't even trust this fo0l to look after my pet rock, she takes useless and incompetent to a whole new level. Her attitude is just typical of this current regime, nothing is ever their responsibility or their fault...yet all around their expensive luxury 'compounds' things are rapidly collapsing and people are suffe.ring more than they have ever done in the past!
Things cannot be allowed to continue the way they are, not just this angie b1tch but all of these self-serving corrupt imbeciles are rapidly destr0ying what little chance this country and our children had of a positive future. I am no longer filled with hope, what a sad place this has become! Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Nongoloza24
Lenyora-Buckselona
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I hope ga o te kgotle m0tete o ntse o re testing yalo. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Lenyora-Buckselona
Hai hai sowetan why are u blocking my comments.Bo Maezi bona they swear @ us the whole day but u not blocking them jeses. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Heavenly.....Is jy dof.....What is a Bitch, please make my day
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Short Answer=A biatch is some1 who opens legs for a dif nikka everyweek....Don't act like u don't knw wts a biatch
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Lenyora-Buckselona -Tsek msimba xinile Report Abuse
@Angie.Tell them they musnt pass the buck.If their kids ke m*tete like their dads bo Nongoloza and mat*katse what do they expect u to do.Phela u are not a magician wena u dont transform batho Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
16-12-1838
mamalethabo2
You are so right, in fact all of the pathetic anc 'top rankers' are only interested in their personal agendas and not doing what is expected of them as "supposed" servants of the people - unfortunately, their view on democracy in South Africa is that the people are here to serve them. They have also done an incredible job of convincing their loyal followers that this is the case too, until the blind realise this then things will only continue getting worse.
The only struggle and revolution now left, here in S.Africa, is for 65.9% of the voting population to free their minds, release their own cranial shackles and emancipate themselves from mental slavery. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Lenyora-Buckselona
@Sowetan.Lesele maan why remove the article on the white NPA guy whose son was found gulity of culpable homicide instead of muder for knocking down two ppl.
You are so right, in fact all of the pathetic anc 'top rankers' are only interested in their personal agendas and not doing what is expected of them as "supposed" servants of the people - unfortunately, their view on democracy in South Africa is that the people are here to serve them. They have also done an incredible job of convincing their loyal followers that this is the case too, until the blind realise this then things will only continue getting worse.
The only struggle and revolution now left, here in S.Africa, is for 65.9% of the voting population to free their minds, release their own cranial shackles and emancipate themselves from mental slavery.
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I agree with u bosso.The only person who can save S.A from zuma is Barack Obama.He shud invade S.A and forcibly remove the double diff man from Disney Land nkandla like he did with that guy wako Libya,i forgot his name. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Heavenlydevine
I thought a bitch was a female dog..... Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Lenyora-Buckselona
Heavenlydevine
Lenyora-Buckselona-Angi khulumi jou failpop zikhiphani ngawe?
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Im not in the mood mfanakithi vandag ne so oska nsukela asseblief. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Heavenlydevine
I thought a bitch was a female dog.....
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Nah u wrong a bitch is some1 like you Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
zuluchick
wow harsh but far from the truth minister
an enviroment can directly affect outputs, now a drunk teacher will achieve what exactly at the end of the day? what happens to the safety of the pupils and other co-workers?
your comment is heartless and careless, and funny enough you claim you dont provides beds but textbooks...no you even failed there..and if pregnacy is not your problem then how my former highschool had 'sickbay'?? if that is a problem that eminates from home then why provide health care at school
you honestly do not deserve your title and job Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Heavenlydevine
Lenyora-Buckselona
Heavenlydevine
Lenyora-Buckselona-Angi khulumi jou failpop zikhiphani ngawe?
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Im not in the mood mfanakithi vandag ne so oska nsukela asseblief.
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I am not in a mood nywenywenyweeeeee tsek saan i get it it's that time of the month 4 you....Hope u got di tempons... Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Heavenlydevine
zuluchick
wow harsh but far from the truth minister
an enviroment can directly affect outputs, now a drunk teacher will achieve what exactly at the end of the day? what happens to the safety of the pupils and other co-workers?
your comment is heartless and careless, and funny enough you claim you dont provides beds but textbooks...no you even failed there..and if pregnacy is not your problem then how my former highschool had 'sickbay'?? if that is a problem that eminates from home then why provide health care at school
you honestly do not deserve your title and job
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Ya neh How come a d*mb a$$ like this become minister of education as dom as she is Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
As long Zuma is a man of women in ANC they'll say (women) whatever they want and wont take their duties because he dances with them when they're partying.
Something serious was supposed to be done about people who talk like teenagers. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
-Cl!ck-
I see some id!ots here forgot their fishpaste and marmite sandwiches at home.. Typing manure with their sewerage fingers and cracked Zum-bak lips..
@ Heavenlydevine
Yes you plumber... I'm talking to you.. Navy @ss, ch!mpanzee head..
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
As long Zuma is a man of women in ANC they'll say (women) whatever they want and wont take their duties because he dances with them when they're partying.
Something serious was supposed to be done about people who talk like teenagers.
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And they were supposed to start with you jou donnor Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Heavenlydevine
Cl!ck-
I see some id!ots here forgot their fishpaste and marmite sandwiches at home.. Typing manure with their sewerage fingers and cracked Zum-bak lips..
@ Heavenlydevine
Yes you plumber... I'm talking to you.. Navy @ss, ch!mpanzee head..
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Yes u red A$$ baboon wat u itches ur balls Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
16-12-1838
Please people make that change, please help all of us who truly care about the future of this country and realise the p0wer that you hold. Let Democracy finally work for you...stop accepting the disrespect and ab.use our so-called leaders show us on a daily basis, even though they share the same pigmentation as you.
Would you go into a store and pay more than half of what you earn in a month on a broken pair of shoes, a rotten piece of meat, a cell without buttons and/or screen, a bottle of beer/coke with no liquid in, a magazine with no writing or pictures inside, a car with no engine?????
No, of course not!
So why then do you sit back and let the criminals that run this country constantly sell you lies, broken dreams and empty promises while they smugly walk away, stuffing their deep pockets full of OUR hard earned tax money? Many people sacrificed their life and lives in the not so distant past to provide that vote, use it wisely and make it count...DOWN with corruption, incompetence through cadre deployment, cronyism and crime. Down with anc, viva change viva!!!!
"wat u itches ur balls" -------- WTF??.. Remove your bald-head from Angie thighs and speak properly..
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Can't u see it's a typing error u d*mb cnut couldn't even make out what i was trying to say the way oleng dom kateng i wouldn't be surprised if u not related to this biatch Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Heavenlydevine
it's clear that here we speak with incompetent people, I mean you go to taverns and bonk loss vroumense, did u take HiV test
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Heavenlydevine
it's clear that here we speak with incompetent people, I mean you go to taverns and bonk loss vroumense, did u take HiV test
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Haai man don't say i am incompeten maan en y ask me abt di test i should be asking u the same question? Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
zuluchick
@Heavenlydevine
her husband is someone big there in the ANC so one comrade will help another comrade wether or not he/she knows the job
could someone please tell me who Angie's husband is. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@devine....you don't know what a bitch is, so WTF, let me guy you are an administrator at the National Youth Development Agency ne, figured... Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Heavenlydevine
zuluchick
@Heavenlydevine
her husband is someone big there in the ANC so one comrade will help another comrade wether or not he/she knows the job
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who's her fada? Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@devine....you don't know what a bitch is, so WTF, let me guy you are an administrator at the National Youth Development Agency ne, figured...
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Hey wena r u dom or a retard??in my books a bitch is a bitch and does axectly the things you do maaan comprende Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@devine....i doubt it, you books, tlitliltiltiltitlti*drop dead on the floor* Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@devine....i doubt it, you books, tlitliltiltiltitlti*drop dead on the floor*
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lol now u laughing @ me ya ma book it's called a bitch book u can find it ko cna Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
-Cl!ck-
@ Heavenlydevine
Wrong.. That's what happens when your grandfather is on parole and leaves his E250 samsung floating on his mattress like a boat.. Then you steal it and come type manure with your fishfingers that opens Hansa quartz week-in and week-out at the local shebeen..
In short, no typing error.. It's who you are Mr "wat u itches ur balls"..
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Heavenlydevine
it's clear that here we speak with incompetent people, I mean you go to taverns and bonk loss vroumense, did u take HiV test
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Wena did you take the test??Akere you are being facked by security guards and black label drinking guys at tarverns??
zuluchick
baby love angie's husband ke mathole motshekga lol. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@devine
i bet it’s called that, so you are looking for tricks in the book, careful if application to the theory is conflicting you might end-up failing or falling on your Diek...well I guess failing to you is a trend Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Heavenlydevine
-Cl!ck-
@ Heavenlydevine - Hahahahahahahaha o ra mang? shut-up u sh*t face m prety sure wena u using a type righter to be mo sowetan i don't know how u did it but u did anyway... Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
zuluchick
@Heavenlydevine
uhm i dont know....im more interested in the husband Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@devine
i bet it’s called that, so you are looking for tricks in the book, careful if application to the theory is conflicting you might end-up failing or falling on your Diek...well I guess failing to you is a trend
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Lol see bo dom ba gao i just said i wrote the fleppen book 4 god sake's how can i be looking for tips in my own book dummy.....Bona jo ge ole sifebe o sifebe why don't u embrace it's actually not a bad thing d*febe diatsa pleke monate...
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zuluchick-I bet ke m*aghwapheni wa Zuma Report Abuse
Are you trying to write your diary??.. To me it looks like a combination of diarrhea and diabetes..
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Hey click the dikc face isn't time to go was ur g-strings? Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
RobinX
Heavenlydevine: Do you seriously enjoy showing how incredibly juvenile and idiotic you are? Then you are even more stupid than I first thought. Yap away, sick little puppy, everyone here is laughing at you... Report Abuse
RobinX
Heavenlydevine: Do you seriously enjoy showing how incredibly juvenile and idiotic you are? Then you are even more stupid than I first thought. Yap away, sick little puppy, everyone here is laughing at you...
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You again dude wat da hell do u want frm me? Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
-Cl!ck-
@ Heavenlydevine
He wants you to dive in the deepest ocean.. Whether you sink or float, life goes on.. *wink*
He wants you to dive in the deepest ocean.. Whether you sink or float, life goes on.. *wink*
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Lol i am very amused by wat u say.... Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEE-Hey hope u didn't take me serious neh was playing no hard feelings neh u not s*febe neh dear wabona dis 2 g@y's click and robinhood are trying to strengthen their bond ngami...
CLICK-and RobinX go scuk each ada's balls g@y fakz Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@heavenly...then you are a disturbed child Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@heavenly...then you are a disturbed child
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lol y u say dat dear? Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Kone
Sowetan can you please remove this joke from my face, she make me sick in our stomack. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
RobinX
Heavenlydevine: I need nothing from you other than that you grow up and learn to talk decently, as for having my jewellery sucked, it's fine... you're doing a great job, sonny. Yes, there... hmmm.
Time's up carguard.. I'm about to leave.. You'll find your R2 tip underneath where I parked.. But wait, I'll have to tax you 14% from it as my d0g in Nkandla needs some Bob martins later this afternoon.. Cool??
Thats works out to R1,72 (-14% tax)
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............................R1,16 (-30% medical aid)
............................R0,58 (-50% unpaid leave)
well, you practically do what i do, just because i am a woman a doing it you call me a bitch, you say you have written a book on bitchi’ology, you use me as a shield to avoid remarks made to you by Robin and CLick...and now you retract your comments you made about me as a joke ………i think your illness may be diagnosed as
Statistical Manual disorder,
Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, or
Amphetamine withdrawal psychosis
-Cl!ck- Tsamaya bayo shapa matanyola man stabane ndini...
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DR THEmadame2B-BBEE-I am not afraid of those 2 punk's and i am not hiding or using u as a human shield...I really mean it dear is either u take my apology coz nna i wont l*ick ur a$$ for it=Kidding Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Shredder
@Serobapipi-
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Ke eng yanong sweetheart? O tennwe ke eng or ke mang? Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@devine.....u see, wa sika son straight Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@devine.....u see, wa sika son straight
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Yes i am indeed can u pls cure me? Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Devine....no i won't cure u i'll SPANK you.....tlitlitlitli Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Devine....no i won't cure u i'll SPANK you.....tlitlitlitli
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Hahahahahahaha that will do just fine i hope u not legwinya askere i don't want legwinya to spank this handsome man...Hahahahahaha Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
Devine...what the hell is that "legwinya"....please don't kill the mood Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Shredder
You two, get a room and get it done over with. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEE
Devine...what the hell is that "legwinya"....please don't kill the mood
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lol u don't know legwinya it's a (fatkuk) so when is my spanking session or rather say consultation going to b... Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Heavenlydevine
Shredder
You two, get a room and get it done over with.
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Willing to offer us ur room bra? Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
Consultation is gonna cost you, and i won't go for 3 ciders or ciggies.....bora bora my skat… Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
setladi1
you old idiot, who said sex can be done of bed only, bloody old mutual. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEE
Consultation is gonna cost you, and i won't go for 3 ciders or ciggies.....bora bora my skat…
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K will 4 ciders cover the cost's it's 4 or nothing ur loss Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
cdek
Dear Ms Motshekga, when teachers are the ones impregnating their students, that IS the department's problem. When sex ed is not taught at school, that IS the department's problem. Yes, parents are primarily responsible for their kids' moral education. But schools have a responsibility to add to what the kids are taught at home.
But then again a Minister who doesn't feel it's her fault that an entire province doesn't get school books would not accept responsibility for students "making sex" at school.
Why is she still in office? She should be fired and forced to apologise to the students she has failed.
maneater
We don't provide beds, we provide pens and books"
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i vividly remembering you saying its not you responsibility to ensure that books are delivered. tell us now , WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILTY so we can hold you accountable?
hahahahahahaha! you are "ON-POINT" dear! Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
somaartakeit
you arrogant uneducated fat female corrupt p!g you destroyed education of our children our future and you want us to accept that you are blameless in teh aftermath of destruction of SA's educatioin? more than ever SAns must campaign and vote anc regime out the sooner the better, we NEVEr compromise on principled and moral leadership who take responsibility for their actioins, not this angie animal and rest of the pack of thieves who are destryong SA, I am very angry right now cause everything on front pages of the news is everything negative the anc and its so called is inflicting upon unsuspecting SAns. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Bebesocs
@Ratshufi...she is with Zuma as well as Mac Maharaj. The husband is another fool with a revolting mouth that protects Nkandlagate. Does Angie have children? May be we need to teach her a good lesson of how to be a parent. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
legendarybenedictoholic
teenage pregnancy may not be her problem but i think she must do something about the teachers who show up at school drunk, unless the department of education does not have an etiquette. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Bebesocs
Angie Motshekga goes around the country throwing such statement that it is not her problem, so we are on our own, so we need to decide on our own about the behaviour of these teachers, we need to show our teachers how serious we are with our childrens' education. Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
Heavenlydevine
@cdek
But then again a Minister who doesn't feel it's her fault that an entire province doesn't get school books would not accept responsibility for students "making sex" at school.
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It's having s*x not making s*x neh otherwise u right
I agree with you Minister. What are Parents for then? If these fake parents can’t take care of their children, they should stop making them.
Similar to those that advocates cancellation of Grant money by suggesting that people should stop making babies if they can afford them. Don’t see the difference there.
I see infants being sent to school to learn to walk in future ek se.
What should Angie do when Sowetan publishes a story of two officers having sex on their front page?
The statement about not having sex at school is wrong........Talking from experience!! Report Abuse
Nov 8, 2012
skwamasamabele
Pass the buck, Angie. Let me tell you how they do things in the UK (where I live). 1. student turns up drunk, school contact Social Services, Social Services contact the police, police arrest parents, social services take child into care, school suspend child to study in isolation. In pregnancies, scool contact social services and police, police trace the father, if he's over-age, he spends 5 years in prison, signs a sex offenders' register for 15 or 20 years. After the child is born, they take it into care/adoption, student go back to school. No-one passes the buck over here, BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO DO THEIR JOBS, ANGIE!!! Unlike you, useless piece of s**t Report Abuse
Nov 12, 2012
Printa
Its true, parents dont want to face their children's actions and put rules and laws within their homes and blames the rot on the DOE. If home were stable, the shenanigans happening in schools would be a thing of the past.
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maneater
i have long given up with this minister there's not thing coming from her that will shock me!!!Report Abuse
Makhosini0408
Remind me again Madam, why are you still a Minister after all your blunders? 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, your time is up. By the way, are you not a parent?This is a challenge and we need to work together and please just to refresh your memory, please refer to Obama's speech, maybe you will learn something.
As a Minister, you should come up with solutions, that is why we are paying you.
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Dubul'Amanzi
Chiefs win it's a headline,Pirates win nothing happen,ai Sowetan. Anyway what do we expect from Angie, she should have resigned long time ago.Report Abuse
lerato777777
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asaowe
BASIC Education Minister Angie Motshekga says pregnancies among schoolgirls and teachers who go to class drunk are not her department's problems.indeed minister u ddnt sleep wth the kids, nd u neva gave bought teacher liquour to drink, but your responsibility is to enforce discipleine amoungs educators meaning if teacher comes to scholl drunk exercise yr power fire the lot y nut, unfortunately u cnnt keep kids from sliping around at school or after it parets responsibiity.
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Makhosini0408
Dubul'AmanziYou are right. I was thinking about that. No wonder the newspaper is a shadow of itself, a factory fault, if we use this days poloticians terminology.
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maneater
We don't provide beds, we provide pens and books"=====================================================
i vividly remembering you saying its not you responsibility to ensure that books are delivered. tell us now , WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILTY so we can hold you accountable?
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RobinX
Ag listen, lady, as far as you're concerned, NOTHING is your problem. Of all the many disgusting failures in parliament, you take the cake. Your ministry is a complete disgrace, and you don't even have the courage to be quizzed on what undoubtedly IS your problem, the appalling mess in provision of books, so with respect, pardon the raspberry I dedicate to your uselessness: BLEEAAAGH!Report Abuse
Pabi
We don't provide beds, we provide pens and books"**********************************************************************************
yooh! beaf e kana, the department doesn't provide bed but as a parent too we can help teachers and parents to resolve this problem." ngwana ke wa setshaba"
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MommaC
SUCH COMPASSIONsuch warmth
such understanding
such a beautiful example of how, in Africa, it takes a village to raise a child
such a magnificent show of maternal feelings
such a delightful understanding of what your duties are
....... Bazinga.
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Chichi7
To a certain degree the minister is right. Parents need to start doing what they refuse to do, PARENTING!Why should teachers be sympathetic to the kids that get pregnant, were these teachers there when the baby making was happening?
Seriously, charity begins at home and parents need to stop expecting schools to discipline kids that are supposed to be disciplined at home.
As for kids not having s3x at school, the minister needs to research on just how many porn clips are in seculation done by school kids in school yards/bathrooms/classrooms. These kids have mastered the art or threesum and orgies.
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Capegal
Angie mara yena, ai i give.she doesnt even know how to respond to critics how can we expect her to lead education system????!!Report Abuse
candilious
How in name of Hell do you wash your hands ..................But Motshekga washed her hands off this issue as well, saying it had to be addressed by school governing bodies and not the department. Motshekga's stance is different from Health Minister Aaron Motsoaledi who wants condoms distributed at schools to prevent HIV/Aids infections and early pregnancies.My moer man the teachers are not the gonerning bodies Problem its the Departments problem Angie if you know whats blerrie good for you retract thosse statements and pack your bags
Jeeeez never in my life. Why was health subject takem away in the 1st place ,kids dont even pray in the morning anymore. Bet there aint even Assemblys aswell .
Govement f@cked up big time changing sillybus and sh!t now the Kids & Teachers are suffering and niemand wil die skuld vat .
An idea might seem good on the paper its written on but to carry out thr project is a whole different ball game.
ANC you f@cked up BIG time just admitt and ask for help
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asaowe
Would like to congratulate Banyana for beating Nigeria lastnyt bring the cup home ladies.Report Abuse
DeOvi
the books u claim u are providing, are supposed to teach leaners about evrething that is happening in life (particularly life science/biology and life orientation). if teenpreg is not ur problem then wat are ur teachers teaching the leaners in the said subjects.Report Abuse
RobinX
" we provide pens and books" HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA > WHERE, YOU LYING, UNCARING DISGRACE!!!Report Abuse
Buc4life
Morning AllMinister; teenage pregnancy is very much your problem as it is everyone`s. How can you even say that, and how is it not your problem? Is it not your department`s problem when children drop out of school. Does education not affect our economy?
Do you even understand the importance of the department you run? Yes, we know that it is parents responsibility to teach children about such things. Ultimately, it is the government`s(which you are a part of) problem.
Minister; can you just for 1 minute think of the bigger picture?
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Akhonto
@lerato777777 - i second u!!!!!! yerr what exactly is her problem?Report Abuse
DeOvi
We don't provide beds, we provide pens and books"=========================================
then wat are the life orientation books all about???
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Tobby
The only remedy for this is that SCHOOL GIRLS WHO ARE PREGNANT MUST BE DISMISSED FROM SCHOOL WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT as the old goverment used to do, this is rubbish to allow the children come to school pregnant, a mother and a scholar are two different things and they can't be mixed together........... NXReport Abuse
candilious
@Robin- My hell i nearly fell from my chair reading that part if i could i would throw caynnne pepper in her blerrrie mouthReport Abuse
Shredder
Teenage pregnancy is mostly the government's problem due to the demonic, ungodly laws that were introduced after apartheid.Report Abuse
Tsar-Rasputin
Straatmaat will remain straatmaat, whether Minister or Pastor's wife!!!Report Abuse
Shredder
"They don't have sex at schools, "Actually they do madam. There was news of a video from the Kagiso school where kids were having sex in the balcony in front of everyone.
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Buc4life
Chichi7To a certain degree the minister is right. Parents need to start doing what they refuse to do, PARENTING!
Why should teachers be sympathetic to the kids that get pregnant, were these teachers there when the baby making was happening?
Seriously, charity begins at home and parents need to stop expecting schools to discipline kids that are supposed to be disciplined at home.
As for kids not having s3x at school, the minister needs to research on just how many porn clips are in seculation done by school kids in school yards/bathrooms/classrooms. These kids have mastered the art or threesum and orgies.
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hello there
Yes the minister is right to a certain extent, but she does not know what to say, then she nust not say anything.
The government is the ultimate custodian of our children. Where parents fail, government must step in. Charity does indeed start at home. However, we live in a society characterised by degenerating values and morals.
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RobinX
And who is responsible for disciplining teachers who misbehave (drunk teachers in your words)? SA Breweries? Get real you useless piece of ****.Report Abuse
Buc4life
ShredderTeenage pregnancy is mostly the government's problem due to the demonic, ungodly laws that were introduced after apartheid.
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Hello.
No. Parents fail to teach children. They, themselves, are not good role models for children.
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Shredder
This minister never says anyting good with her mouth. During the formation of COPE she said, "the dogs are gone". Now she says "We don't provide beds, we provide pens and books".The only way to fix this country is to bring back apartheid :-D
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Stimela
Angie is a bad Minister, but she is correct on this one, teenage pregnancy should be solved by the parents.Report Abuse
asaowe
ShredderThis minister never says anyting good with her mouth. During the formation of COPE she said, "the dogs are gone". Now she says "We don't provide beds, we provide pens and books".
The only way to fix this country is to bring back apartheid :-D
bring back in your home
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Pointman
The minister is right. Home is where values, restraint etc must be taught. It is a lazy or incompetent parent that offloads is parenting job on society or schools.Report Abuse
MommaC
No people. When you drop your kids off at that school gate, the school becomes responsible for your child. It is up to them to make sure that the people, who are acting as your child's temporary parents, are CAPABLE. It is Angie's responsibility to make sure that the parenting of children, whilst they are in her care, is of the highest standard. That includes making sure that they aren't being boinked by teachers for better grades and not being left without supervision.Report Abuse
ISIDINDI
Nothing is your problem!Report Abuse
asaowe
PointmanThe minister is right. Home is where values, restraint etc must be taught. It is a lazy or incompetent parent that offloads is parenting job on society or schools.
Correct, we parents passing a bug here, we fail in our own homes that a fact.
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THEmadame2B-BBEE
ANGIE there is something called Sex-education ask the Americans they even have a curriculum in their schoolsReport Abuse
TLekota
Leave Angie alone, what is saying here is true. You can't blame the department for teenage pregnancies cos it is in their syllabus parents must play a role.Report Abuse
Shredder
Agg, the Pirates trolls now are going to litter every article with their shyte. Please post your Pirates shyte in the relevant article.Report Abuse
Makhosini0408
Buc4lifeMorning All
Minister; teenage pregnancy is very much your problem as it is everyone`s. How can you even say that, and how is it not your problem? Is it not your department`s problem when children drop out of school. Does education not affect our economy?
Do you even understand the importance of the department you run? Yes, we know that it is parents responsibility to teach children about such things. Ultimately, it is the government`s(which you are a part of) problem.
Minister; can you just for 1 minute think of the bigger picture?
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Morning Ausi
I think it is a tall order for the Minister to think of the bigger picture. By now we are used to mediocrity during her watch and we are not even surprised. We have destroyed if not damaged the future of our kids, by entrusting her as a Minister. I have reached the conclusion that the the Minister is doing what the ANC wants or it has lost control over her. By the way, their children are receiving a better education at private schools, why must they bother about ours?
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RobinX
Stimela: She is responsible for providing an environment in which our children are to feel a modicum of hope for their futures. She doesn't. She steadfastly avoids any hint at responsibility for anything remotely connected to her VERY IMPORTANT portfolio on which the futures of our children depend. When the education system is in such hopeless disarray, one can hardly blame the children for being disillusioned and ill-disciplined, without much hope in getting anywhere with the system this rude and uncaring woman is supposed to be controlling, with no success whatsoever.Report Abuse
RobinX
Pintman, with respect, please don't be ridiculous.Report Abuse
Shredder
@asaowebring back in your home
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I said it of course. The sewerage stench that we have to keep with everyday is now unbearable. Please bring back apartheid and this country will be in the world class standard like it used to be.
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bytheway1
Jo! I'm a minister... no responsibility for me, thanks. Another failed ANC leader.Report Abuse
Buc4life
Makhosini0408Buc4life
Morning All
Minister; teenage pregnancy is very much your problem as it is everyone`s. How can you even say that, and how is it not your problem? Is it not your department`s problem when children drop out of school. Does education not affect our economy?
Do you even understand the importance of the department you run? Yes, we know that it is parents responsibility to teach children about such things. Ultimately, it is the government`s(which you are a part of) problem.
Minister; can you just for 1 minute think of the bigger picture?
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Morning Ausi
I think it is a tall order for the Minister to think of the bigger picture. By now we are used to mediocrity during her watch and we are not even surprised. We have destroyed if not damaged the future of our kids, by entrusting her as a Minister. I have reached the conclusion that the the Minister is doing what the ANC wants or it has lost control over her. By the way, their children are receiving a better education at private schools, why must they bother about ours?
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Hello M.
Long time. You are right. then the question is why are we continuing to entrust our land with such incompetencies?
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Shredder
correction: sewerage = sewageReport Abuse
MommaC
To all those saying that Angie is right,If your 12 year old daughter wanted to go to a party where you knew the parents were absent and there would be older boys as well as copious amounts of alcohol and drugs, would you let her go?
Now why are you asking parents to let their kids go there every single day of the school year?
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THEmadame2B-BBEE
Jeerr, Black ppl, when I was in private school we were taught sex-education and gender studies as part of the school curriculum, hence the reason why I know that there is something called Plan B (with a high dosage of lenorgestrel), condoms, sexual positions that you can do without falling pregnant, etc. I all learned that tat school, like really what will my parents know about Three, nada, so you learn that at school…………….huhahahah some of us had great educationReport Abuse
Buc4life
Shredder@asaowe
bring back in your home
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I said it of course. The sewerage stench that we have to keep with everyday is now unbearable. Please bring back apartheid and this country will be in the world class standard like it used to be.
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Shredder. Morn
Apartheid never and will never make us shine. We need to elect wisely.
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KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
The women people say will lead this country when things are tough they wash their hands.Report Abuse
MommaC
KatakataEmaotoAditshepethis thing doesn't qualify for the title of 'woman'
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candilious
@Shredder -could not agree with you more .Report Abuse
Papage
She needs to get her act together, stop talking to Parents like she does not have children, everything happening to school Children is not her problem, what is wrong with Angie? Her role is to make Policies not deliver books, she give Books and pens not bed to lie on, who said sex in only done on beds, she has a stupid man.Report Abuse
Mosquer
Nare mo.s.a.d.i o oreng! Aii! go padile moReport Abuse
Buc4life
MommaCHello Momma
I think that we can rant and rave all we want about this and everything else that is happening with this government. The bottom line is that we have clueless ministers, it is scary. What scares me the most is that the majority of the citizens keep on voting this government to power.
The bigger picture is that all the departments are falling apart. So, in a way, Angiee`s statement is not surprising.
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candilious
@MommaC- I lus haar met n p@es klap slaan ,imagine@Kata -More boet ,if you are saying she is right within her right saying this dan weet ek nie stroes .
Past Laws were much better then this. Corparal punishment was a tool to keep kids intact now kids Punish teachers haaibo i Blame all on Gvmt for this Including You Badbek Angie
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Shredder
@Buc4lifeShredder. Morn
Apartheid never and will never make us shine. We need to elect wisely.
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Morning Bucs4life. Congrats for last night.
You are right about electing wise. Now the problem is that the masses will vote the same party that is flushing us down the drain. It is so sad to see the rate at which things are deteriorating in this country. Anyway, that was just a comment. I was not serious about bringing back apartheid. We have a problem here in our hands. And we are the ones that can fix it. Now when we talk about voting for change, meaning a different party, people talk about Mangaung as if Mangaung will bring changes.
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mashima?
Minister you rather say this should be a joined venture, don't wash your hands just like that are you Pilato of the old. No m***nReport Abuse
LBS
"We don't provide beds, we provide pens and books"NO, YOU DO NOT That's a given fact!
Angie is correct up to a point WRT teenage pregnancies BUT they are encouraged by the ANC government (to which she belongs) who give grants to pregnant children who see this as easy pocket money and NOT as a means to support unwanted children!
Back in apartheid days, pregnant girls had to leave school and find other ways and means to study further. Today the girls come to school sporting their big bellies as if they've done something clever! :(
Teachers coming to school drunk was seldom heard of, and as for teachers impregnating their students, I think it was as rare a hen's teeth!! Today it has become the norm!
THIS education system has been dumbed down so much as to be worthless to learners.
Parents DO NOT educate their children on how having babies restricts choices in the future.
Educators DO NOT educate and prepare their students for the future.
The education department DOES NOT give a rat's @rse about shoddy work/NON DELIVERY of basics to the schools to equip them to teach as best they can.
They've downgraded the pass rate % which tells the kids being mediocre is fine so student don't even bother to try.
In short the whole anc led government has failed the children and she, in her lofty position of "BASIC EDUCATION MINISTER" should be fighting tooth and nail to turn the situation around at grass roots level.
Sex education from an early age is essential so children understand how it will affect their lives and futures.
FIRE predator teachers who abuse their positions.
FIRE teachers who come to work drunk. It is NOT acceptable in any way.
Instill discipline in the schools - start with the teachers and governing bodies and soon the children will understand their rights to good education. Expect more and you'll get more!
Finally DO AWAY with the child grants which is creating a whole new level of poverty and if need be, call a school meeting and advise parents that the girls can get contraceptives.
We have to start somewhere, don't we? Question is, when?
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Flemza
On this one I truelly agree with the minister , schools don`t provide beds for having se.x , but books and class rooms to learn, then how can you blame the minister for tenage pregnancyReport Abuse
candilious
@Buc4life- True but really now this has to stop ,i watch the news daily .When my daughter ask me who is this & that minister as i get very aggro when listening to the news .Every Minister i introduce her too vang net k@k aan kan jy dit oor vertel
Morning Sorry Angie left a bitter taste on my tong
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MommaC
Buc4lifeIt is the sheer ARROGANCE that gets to me. How dare she! This is the person who told us that it wasn't her job to deliver books and gave herself '8 out of 10' for fugging up the education and futures of every kid who can't afford Model C schooling. She is such a flippin disgrace!
Maybe if Candi and I both give her a lekker kwaai poesklap, she'll grow some ovaries and become a real woman!
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Chichi7
asaowePointman
The minister is right. Home is where values, restraint etc must be taught. It is a lazy or incompetent parent that offloads is parenting job on society or schools.
Correct, we parents passing a bug here, we fail in our own homes that a fact.
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Totally right. As a parent, i take full responsibility of how my kids behave. I refuse to pass the responsibility to someone else. After all the very same parents are the ones that go ballistic when teachers discipline their kids, so what exactly do parents want?
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Shredder
LOL. FW De Klerk didn't didn't provide beds either, but we didn't have this current problem.Report Abuse
Ruralgirl
Has Angie for a moment thought that maybe.... just maybe.... learners and teachers get involved in such activities due to 'boredom' while awating TEXTBOOKS TO BE DELIVERED'????? Has she ever thought that maybe... just maybe.... the lack of sporting or any other extra-mural activies at most public schools might be contributing to this? What about the fact that there are no libraries and laboratories.....While I am NOT saying that parents do not have a role to play, I do think that Angie did not think at all before she opened her mouth! I'm utterly disappointed in her!
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KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@MommaCKatakataEmaotoAditshepe
this thing doesn't qualify for the title of 'woman'
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Angie is a woman.
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RobinX
Papage: "She has a stupid man" .... WHAT!!!!!??? WHat has her man got to do with anything?FLemza: As ridiculous as usual. Ai.
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RobinX
Passing the bug is passing on a disease. You people mean" passing the buck".Report Abuse
candilious
@MommaC- Just looking at her face no blink whatsoever she does not give a f@ck plain in saying fok julle What im saying is right and thats that.Buck4life after this stunt i am more eager to form some sort of group to ensure that our Communities and fellow elders theat still have their noodles in tact to stand against Govement .Hell its only DA/JUJU making noise
Why not involve the PEOPLE just maybe the COUNTRY stands a chance
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GrRRRpha
Go Angie your are the wosrt Minister ever. Because your child was fortunate to study in best schools and even got the Mandela scholarship to go study her masters abroad, doesnt mean you can a go @poor parents.Last you said you are not responsible 4 Textbooks only a policy maker
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MommaC
KatakataEmaotoAditshepeYou brave enough to check?
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Ntumbane
WTF.Report Abuse
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@candiliousKata -More boet ,if you are saying she is right within her right saying this dan weet ek nie stroes .
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More Candy.
Candy she's 110% wrong since parents,teachers and the department have to sit down then come with ideas that could help to better the conditions till they come with something that will end these problems we as SAns face.
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Buc4life
candilious@Buc4life- True but really now this has to stop ,i watch the news daily .When my daughter ask me who is this & that minister as i get very aggro when listening to the news .
Every Minister i introduce her too vang net k@k aan kan jy dit oor vertel
Morning Sorry Angie left a bitter taste on my tong
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We stop it by not voting them to power. Indirectly, we put Angie there. But we all know, how difficult it is for the majority to vote for another party in this country-taking into account are history.
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Zabaragast
Lies Angie! What books?!Report Abuse
MSG_S
What was the need of basic and higher education office headed by 2 different individuals in the first place??. Here is a minister who is suppose to be responsible in all aspects of leadership competency showing indifference to everything that deserves her attention . And someone who has a kindergarten IQ level is employed as a minister. Would there be a need to take our children to prim-shcool tomorrow or better-off teach them by ourselves at home????Report Abuse
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@MommaCKatakataEmaotoAditshepe
You brave enough to check?
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Ha re e hake sefoleng etswe e fopha re e bo ne mohlamonene.
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THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Flemaza, do you eat breakfast? It’s an important meal of the day, in order for your Neurons to work efficiently because they have the amazing ability to gather and transmit electrochemical signals to each and construct what we read and analyse in our daily lives to make sense…….clearly your neurons are deadReport Abuse
MommaC
candiliousWe are the lucky ones who aren't as badly affected by her incompetence but even we have more compassion for the children than she has. What kind of poephol says that it isn't her job to make sure that HER own staff aren't phuzafaced at work?
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Pointman
MommaCNo people. When you drop your kids off at that school gate, the school becomes responsible for your child. It is up to them to make sure that the people, who are acting as your child's temporary parents, are CAPABLE. It is Angie's responsibility to make sure that the parenting of children, whilst they are in her care, is of the highest standard. That includes making sure that they aren't being boinked by teachers for better grades and not being left without supervision.
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I have a kid in school and I know that teachers do all of the above - in my childs school at least. But it is my responsibility to make sure she grows up with values, avoid recreational sex and alcohol and the diseases that could ruin or shorten her life etc. The life orientation texts I looked at do cover all of the above but it is not the teachers responsibility to replace me in the parenting role.
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WarrenG
It's a combination of the Health department and education dept.However with these sorts of comments it seriously IS time for Angie to be sacked.
She is a useless sack of shite really...
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Buc4life
candiliousBuck4life after this stunt i am more eager to form some sort of group to ensure that our Communities and fellow elders theat still have their noodles in tact to stand against Govement .Hell its only DA/JUJU making noise
Why not involve the PEOPLE just maybe the COUNTRY stands a chance
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I was thinking of the same. But I tell you it is very difficult to deal with old and new dunderheads who have formed their own uninformed opinions. But, there is nothing wrong in trying.
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Voetzek
Yes i concur with her,even all you guys who are commenting now there is no one who encouraged you to sneak at night to do sex, you are right ministerReport Abuse
MommaC
PointmanSo if the teachers are drunk and everyone is out filming a gangbang on the soccer field, it's fine with you as it won't affect your kid at all?
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GrRRRpha
We have been watching video's of kids having sex in the school grounds, or maybe its the bedroom according to the MinisterReport Abuse
Makhosini0408
Buc4lifeLong time indeed. Where have you been hiding? lol
I am being censured by the webmaster. I think that we are not doing enough or making too much noise for the clowns at Luthuli House to recall her. We have a wonderful proclamation in our Freedom Charter, that clearly states that the doors of learning and culture shall be opened.
Mrs Motshekga is an impediment to the education of our children and clearly she has overstayed his welcome and clueless about why she is the.
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candilious
MommaC- you honestly i hope she retracts her words .You know what NO sh should not cause this is the very point we tried letting people know justy how GOVERMENT belittles its own people@Pointman -i hear you but back in our day till today i am close and in contact with some of our Teachers whom are still alive. Their are there when we are not .I was somewhat of a rebel which i grew out of it as you speak to your teacher as if it were your parents .Today's teachers cannot even be trusted .So as a parent am i not going to raise this as a concern ,knowing my child in safe hands. And my child knowing right from wrong
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Buc4life
PointmanMommaC
No people. When you drop your kids off at that school gate, the school becomes responsible for your child. It is up to them to make sure that the people, who are acting as your child's temporary parents, are CAPABLE. It is Angie's responsibility to make sure that the parenting of children, whilst they are in her care, is of the highest standard. That includes making sure that they aren't being boinked by teachers for better grades and not being left without supervision.
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I have a kid in school and I know that teachers do all of the above - in my childs school at least. But it is my responsibility to make sure she grows up with values, avoid recreational sex and alcohol and the diseases that could ruin or shorten her life etc. The life orientation texts I looked at do cover all of the above but it is not the teachers responsibility to replace me in the parenting role.
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Pointman. Yes, you might be doing that, but the average parent does not. Lets look at the bigger picture, please.
It definitely is not the teacher`s responsibility to replace parent`s role but it is the government`s responsibily to ultimately care for the child when the average parent does not.
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Juicy-Pipe
A big well done to my Team - Bucs-Zimnyama nge nkane.Minister your behaviour is so banal, nothing good i expected from you after you stood in public and said all matriculanst are ready to write their final exams while most schools in rural areas were never supplied with basic books required. Only thing that you good seem to be pocket delivery. They don't need any bed but you can book them those hotels and lodges you sleep at when away on useless trips - Wa bora shame . . .
@ THEmadame2B-BBEE come let's put into practice those positions you've learnt in school and see if they work - lol *hide*
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Buc4life
Makhosini0408Buc4life
Long time indeed. Where have you been hiding? lol
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Have been hiding @ Orlando where joy overflows. LOLest.
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Chichi7
One thing i know is most people do not know what they want in life and they usually go where the wind blows.1. Marikanna killings- everyone went crazy about cops shooting the strikers
2. Truck drikers started being violent and cops did nothing- most started asking why cops were not taking the stance of Marikanna
3. Kids get disciplined at school- most parents say teachers have no right to discipline these kids
4. Pregnancy in school kids has hit the roof, minister says not their problem- most here say it is their problem and they must do something. Pls note that in doing something, it involves discipline which i must point out that is not wanted as in point 3
My question is, how will others know what you want and what to do when you as a person change your story to suit your needs?
People need to learn to take respoinsibility of their failures as much as they take responsibility of their success
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MOTSOKWANA
Minister i support your statement 100%. It is not the departmemnt resposibility but parents. Contributing factors are tarvens that are all over the place. Tarven owners allow children to buy liquor and they don't care if they are under age or not. You go to parks you will see children drinking liqour free and Metro police officers are not patrolling this areas. This obviously lead children to engage in sex among themselves and its not only adults who made girls pregnant. Another contributiong factor is that this girls want to look good and they cant afford the lifestyle and they resort to sugar daddys who give them money for sex.Report Abuse
MommaC
Chichi7so its either shoot everyone dead or do nothing or blxm the sh!t out of a kid with a metal pipe or no discipline at all?
No, doll. Not a single person EVER said that there should be no discipline in schools. The vast majority of us here don't even agree with them taking away a good spanking in schools but there is a big distance between slapping a naughty juniour school kid on the arse and donnering the bejesus out of them with a brick
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5SKIPAS
Lets be real SAns unless we have a mental illness. In a real world you acn't put the "Minister"and "Teenage pregnancy"on the same sentances, its intirely non of her problems but parents'problems. SHE IS NOT HERE TO SAVE THE WORLD, bt ensure a success and better education to the determined. On drunkards teachers, there are levels n procedures of desciplines and policies guiding the responsible Heads on how to go about (endorsed by the minister of cause). If her policies are not followed and the appointed leaders decided to be mum about them, how is she expected to know of that. GET REAL HYPOCRITES AND GIVE THE MINISTER A BREAKReport Abuse
Pointman
@MOTSOKWANA - you are right about the tavern owners. Some of them encourage young girls to hang around their taverns to attract clients. They should be put behind bars.Report Abuse
SLY007
Does Angie have children of her own? If she does, may God have mercy on her. Judging from her utterances, she does not seem to be a parent, nor acting on loco parentis. First, when she was asked about the textbook debacle in Limpopo, she intimated that textbooks are not her problem and as such she does not even know what the children do in the classrooms. If she was a parent, first and a teacher second, as well as a Minister third, she would care to know about all this.I find it so greatly disturbing that she does not seem to have a heart, as well as empathy that one would expect from a parent or a teacher and a government Minister who has been placed in a position of trust and thus expected to be accountable to those pay her salary at the end of each month.
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Papgat
Motshekga is a disgrace, she is seems not to understanding her portfolio. As a minister of education how could one say “pregnancies among schoolgirls and teachers who go to class drunk are not her department's problems”. It has a direct influenceReport Abuse
Lenyora-Buckselona
Makhosini0408Remind me again Madam, why are you still a Minister after all your blunders? 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, your time is up. By the way, are you not a parent?
This is a challenge and we need to work together and please just to refresh your memory, please refer to Obama's speech, maybe you will learn something.
As a Minister, you should come up with solutions, that is why we are paying you
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Morning sir.I tend to agree with angie on this one.As much as she is a Minister some things are just beyond her control.She cant be a nanny to teachers and kids both which are adults.These schoolkids of nowadays are a lost generation i must say.Nuthing she(angie) or anyone else says can make these kids listen.These kids are the law unto themselves.It comes with self discipline.If these kids cant distinguish right from wrong what are parents and teachers gonna do to remedy the situation,they cant keep an eye on this kids 24/7 or 365 days a year.
As for teachers who are found to be drunk or have impregnated school kids,then they have to be dismissed with emidiate effect.
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RobinX
Voetzek and Motsokwana: Are you two not feeling well, Sir? Get a check-up!Report Abuse
MSG_S
"We don't provide beds, we provide pens and books"----------------------------------------------------------------
A clear declaration that everybody can be the Minister of Education. It is very simple a job..Provide pens and books, finish and klaar...job done.
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malemaforpresident
Free----domfree houses,
free education,
free water,
free condoms,
free social grants,
free sex,
free alcohol,
free health care
Nxaaaa
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Pointman
@SLY007 - she has kids. Her daughter was busted for possession of drugs in school a few years ago. She was charged and brought to court through the back door where the case was quickly done away with. Journos who tried to take photos were assaulted and threatened.I am no fan of Angie but she is right on the pregnancy issue.
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Serene
where are the parents in this? dont this kids have parents? what role are parents playing here?????as much as it might be the dept's respo it is also parents resp....
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Mmabunang
We don't provide beds, we provide pens and books"**********************************************************************************
Excuse me Mam, which books??? the ones u delivered last months in limpopo instead of delivering at the beginning of the year? U incompetent minister mxm
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khanyiso
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS WOMAN, WHICH TEXT BOOK AND PEN DOES HER DEPARTMENT PROVIDE, I MEAN REALLY NOW, "They don't have sex at schools, they have sex at homes...We don't provide beds, we provide pens and books "Dear minister
THEY HAVE SEX AT SCHOOL BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO AT SCHOOL, THEY DO NOT HAVE TEXT BOOKS, (not that i am making an excuse for teachers that sleep with young girls they arew just plain SICK)
PLEASE TAKE RESPOSIBILITY, AND STOP MAKING EXCUSES
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candilious
Chichi7-People need to learn to take respoinsibility of their failures as much as they take responsibility of their success_____________________________________I agree so why does Goverment not just Account thta they f&cked up big time
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Shredder
@RobinXVoetzek and Motsokwana: Are you two not feeling well, Sir? Get a check-up!
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Morning Robin.
Do you know what Motsokwana is? It's a pen!s or d!ck, go figure. The other one is Voetzek. Now tell me how we cannot have problems of teenage pregnancy when people pride them with such names.
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Sweetcakes
The cheek of this woman. I'm shocked beyond belief. Someone remind me why she's still minister.Report Abuse
Sweetcakes
Bloody hell, she's full of nonsense!Report Abuse
Pointman
@MommaCPointman
So if the teachers are drunk and everyone is out filming a gangbang on the soccer field, it's fine with you as it won't affect your kid at all?
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Of course not - I made it clear in my comment that it is the teachers responsibility prevent delinquent behaviour in school but if you kid lacks the common sense to avoid destructive behaviour then it is not entirely the schools fault.
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Son-of-Bhuthelezi
rhaaaaa she needs to be removed from that post this agly morron.it is the department's problem they should step in to assisst not come here tell us that its not their problm
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Chichi7
@ MommaC- I still maintain the stance that it is the reposibilty of the parents to take ownership of what and how their kids behave. The school has a responsibility to teach and maintain discipline not only from students but teachers as well.I do not condone killings nor thrashing kids to brink of death but i am for the fact that no one takes responsibility for who you birthed than yourself.
I refuse to point fingers on what is my problem.
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Shredder
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Ausi Khanyiso, please be kind to us by not using Capital letters. They make it difficult for some if not many people to read. Actually it is the etiquette on web forums, blogs etc.
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Son-of-Bhuthelezi
they F@#$kn dont even provide those book tseekReport Abuse
December
@ Sowetan where is my commentReport Abuse
TupacAmaru!
They don't have sex at schools, they have sex at homes...We don't provide beds, we provide pens and books***
But Minister, you hardly provide those pens and books either. Matriculants at Mashobela High School in Limpopo are today writing their examination...still waiting for pens and books.
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KeRataBasadi
Mara vele, parents need to take responsibility, whats a minister to do when you have children that wash their hands in ultramel, burn carvela's, colour block like crazy and don't bother with school but rather impress girls, its their own parents that are enabling these brats and why are they not reporting rapist teachers to the police or making sure homework is done at the very least, most of these parents are outsourcing their responsibilities to government, then again Angie says her job is to provide pens and books, we all know how good a job she's doing right there.Report Abuse
ManoftheSoil
RobinX - RobinXAnd who is responsible for disciplining teachers who misbehave (drunk teachers in your words)? SA Breweries? Get real you useless piece of ****.
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is this the way you generally speak in yor world, or you just trying to be controversial in these bloggs, you sound like a true disgrace, you and your sone there Sin , i just can nenver take your emotional, comments with hatred serious, you seriously need a life, you have too much time for typing
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MommaC
PointmanI'm not sure how old your kids are but take my word for it, they are all delinquents. That is why they need parents and adult supervision. Their brains have not developed sufficiently to take responsibility for their own lives and they are stupid so they do stupid things. It used to be called 'peer pressure' - not sure if it still is.
we aren't talking about the nice suburban Model C schools here, we are talking about the gangland schools and the squattercamp clans. Do we simply say that they are 'bad blood' and those kids should be abandoned to a never ending cycle of misery?
Nobody is suggesting that the teachers should take over the responsibility of being their full time parents but asking that (whilst in the schooling system) they are kept in school, safe, away from drunkards and supervised - that isn't asking anything more than that the teachers do their jobs. That is Angies responsibility.
It is 'not' her responsibility to supply books, it is 'not' her responsibility to make sure teachers aren't pedophiles, it is 'not' her responsibility to make sure teachers aren't drunk, it is 'not' her responsibility to make sure teachers are in the classrooms, it is 'not' her responsibility to make sure kids don't bunk ...... what exactly is this woman's responsibilities?
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RobinX
ManoftheSoil: When people behave as disgracefully as this woman does, indeeed that is how I address them. They deserve no better. I have no connection to Sin and as you may have noticed, I frequently disagree with him. I hold my own opinions proudly, and with respect, I don't really care if you, or anyone who actually supports this kind of nonsense, take me seriously, as I don't really care what yes-men and deliberately blind people think. Please have a wonderful day.Shredder, Indeed yes. It never ceases to amaze (and amuse) me to see the names by which the most idiotic readers choose to brand themselves with. Clearly too brainless to grasp irony.
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THEmadame2B-BBEE
@MOTSOKWANAO tsubile pipie……….
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Heavenlydevine
Hmmmmmm No comment.Report Abuse
Lenyora-Buckselona
MommaCNo people. When you drop your kids off at that school gate, the school becomes responsible for your child. It is up to them to make sure that the people, who are acting as your child's temporary parents, are CAPABLE. It is Angie's responsibility to make sure that the parenting of children, whilst they are in her care, is of the highest standard. That includes making sure that they aren't being boinked by teachers for better grades and not being left without supervision.
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How on earth is she (angie) supposed to do that.Put chips on each and every kids shoulder to monitor their each and every movement?Thats impossible.Kids should be self-discliplined first before teachers can do anything.How many kids have dropped out of school because they dont wanna adhere to schools rules and regulations.Lets not blame the education systemor angie cos sumthings are just beyond her controll truly speaking.
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KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@DecemberSowetan where is my comment.
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There's technological pr#blem please be patient.
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SLY007
@ Pointman @ Serene - While I am aware that she is not entirely solely responsible for what happens outside the classroom, she's wholly responsible for what takes place in the school yards. For instance, the teachers (some of them) are partly responsible for ill-discipline, sleeping with the pupils, and are thus responsible for some of the the pregnancies. Not so long ago, Sowetan published a stroy where a teacher was actually abusing a 15 year-old child in the presence of her school mates, while a mathematics lesson was supposed to be conducted. These are happening within the school yards, hence she should come up with a way to deal with such detestable acts and should desist to shoot from the top without a shred of empathy to the challenges that parents are facing.Report Abuse
Dzel
The pro.blem with Angie is she la.cks the so.cial and emo.tional inte.lligence that should be a prere.quisite for someone entr.usted with the future of our kids. To say kids have se.x at home is miss.ing the point completely, in many cases kids me.et at school and spend their time together at school only then will they go have se.x at home but most of the inte.raction is at school. Wor.se still vid.eo fo.otage circulated around recently pro.ves there is a lot of se.x that takes place on school gro.unds the Joules inci.dent being the ca.se in point but this is more prev.alent than she thinks. Then there is the teacher-pu.pil relati.onships, ra.pe of school girls by teachers and let us not be na.ive as we also have school girls sedu.cing teachers for favo.urs, I’ve heard of kids flas.hing at m.ale teachers.Her comments are not only inse.nsitive but are indic.ative of who.lesale den.ialism by her department. Even if she was right, schools are there to build hol.istic individuals and comp.lement parental guid.ance. No one is asking her to provide cond.oms but teach the kids about se.x and the conse.quences of their actions, why is that so diff.icult for the department to do?
Many kids end up dro.pping out of school because they are pre.gnant, tee.nage pregna.ncies are a hea.dache for the department one would have thought she would be at the fo.refro.nt of the ba.ttle so we minimise the ri.sks and hea.daches that come with pregn.ancies. Then she lo.ses it completely when she says her s is to deliver school books, gee.z this woman lives in her own par.allel univ.erse where she is perfect but in this uni.verse she is a disa.ster of a mi.nister.
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THEmadame2B-BBEE
you do not need the bed to do it, the learner desk, that corner between the boys and girls bathroom.....the principals officeReport Abuse
ThirdEye
"We don't provide beds, we provide pens and books"What did you do in Limpopo?? Did you provide the books like you claim?
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MOTSOKWANA
RobinXLet me tell you about myself. On weekends i spent most of my time in tarvens and we drink with these girls and i have slept with so many of them. i am not proud of what i am doing but if tarven owners allow them in a place of liqour what must we do. Their bodies can deceive you, thinking its an adult only to find you slept with a child.
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Sifebe
Gogo u don't always need a bed to have sex. U've proven that u r too old. Please retire nowReport Abuse
THEmadame2B-BBEE
oh, forgot,the science lab
the sports ground,
the library (that's if ya'll black ppl school have one)
the teacher's desk
the admin office
the SANitorium
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December
why blame dept of Education what are parents doing do they lecture their children about sex do they ask thier children how was school do they look at their books to see what they did at school you will find this kids standing at the street corner ba jola if you choose to be kuku friendly then the resukts will be pregnancy and if you are not using any contraceptive you will get the result of a baby as old as i am i know that if i sleep with a guy without using a condom or contraceptive the results will lead to pregnancy common sense this kids they know very well what they are doing so lets not put the blame on teachers some of the teachers are bad as well but there are good teachers very soon the schools will be closing in that period who should take responsibility of your kids the dept of Education haai bo this kids they will be drinking and having sex like tomorrow its not coming this kids they make porn videos of themselves having sex plaese lets not blame the dept of education last year there was a picture of boys from Kagiso going to school drinking beer so who do u balme parents, dept of Education or the kids Teachers who jola with this school girls are fucken messed upReport Abuse
Makhosini0408
Lenyora-BuckselonaMorning sir.I tend to agree with angie on this one.As much as she is a Minister some things are just beyond her control.She cant be a nanny to teachers and kids both which are adults.These schoolkids of nowadays are a lost generation i must say.Nuthing she(angie) or anyone else says can make these kids listen.These kids are the law unto themselves.It comes with self discipline.If these kids cant distinguish right from wrong what are parents and teachers gonna do to remedy the situation,they cant keep an eye on this kids 24/7 or 365 days a year.
As for teachers who are found to be drunk or have impregnated school kids,then they have to be dismissed with emidiate effect.
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Morning Sir
I hear you but beg to differ on refering to them as lost generation. I think the children are are photo copy of the original, which is us in a way. As a Minister, Mama Motshekga must provide an enabling environment for effective teaching and schooling to occur. She cannot say that kids do not have sex in school? How many of our sisters lost their viginity at school or sleept willingly with teachers on school premises and also to divorce herself from a challenge is poor leadership. She needs to go and this proves that she is not equal to the task and she must vacate her position.
I agree that we are all in this together. We need a holistic approach to ensure that our children are educated, school are not a breeding ground for horny educaters, who cannot pull themselves towards themselves. I suggest that we need to blacklist truant teachers, but SADTU will always protect them. We are in a catch 22, situation, unless we all agree that we need educated leaders, not izikhothani, osiyanyova leading us in the future.
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SharpSharp
I am very dissapointed about this Minister she forget that she is a parent before being a minister...We dont expect her to give children Condoms thats Dept of Health ' respon..., but she must work together with other deprtments as her dept is the one that hv the majority of children and youth... She will be involve whether she likes it or not...Unless she wanted to resign...If JZ become the Presi... i just want to see were is he going to appoint this girl Angie...
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MommaC
Chichi7So what do we do with these kids who had no say in being born to start with? "Oh shame, just do us a favour and curl up and die a horrible death because you were unlucky enough to be born to a 15 year old slag who is more interested in finding a shabeen than bringing you up". School should be a haven for that child, not a death sentence
I know kids who came from the most despicable conditions and clawed their way out due to an education. If they hadn't had that opportunity then they would be simply another circle in the spiral. There are stories that would make your hair curl about 'jackrolling' and being force fed tablets at school. Even for the most caring of parent, unless they are willing to follow the kid 24/7, there is nothing they can do to prevent that. It is the SCHOOL who must prevent that and that IS barking Angie's responsibility
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THEmadame2B-BBEE
@MOTSOKWANA......what an ignorant black person, jeeerr moeskond, you even go to taverns!tlitlitlitli kwakwakwakwa o ghetto
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Little_Dude
......and your ugliest face is not our problem. Our problem is that you don't take your department's problem more serious hence we have more problem in our education system. You are a pain in the @ss to this country.Report Abuse
Serene
SLY007@ Pointman @ Serene - While I am aware that she is not entirely solely responsible for what happens outside the classroom, she's wholly responsible for what takes place in the school yards. For instance, the teachers (some of them) are partly responsible for ill-discipline, sleeping with the pupils, and are thus responsible for some of the the pregnancies. Not so long ago, Sowetan published a stroy where a teacher was actually abusing a 15 year-old child in the presence of her school mates, while a mathematics lesson was supposed to be conducted. These are happening within the school yards, hence she should come up with a way to deal with such detestable acts and should desist to shoot from the top without a shred of empathy to the challenges that parents are facing
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I agree with you, but it seems like there is one element that is being forgotten here..parents...ppl are blaming the education minister forgetting that parents are a critical part of the education systm.we must not shift the blame
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Usernamee
Motshekga is right some how, its broken families who are creating this...why have kids if you not gonna be responsible to engage with them on these issues, why leave this to the teachers.
Teachers are responsible for their specific curriculum not broken family legacies.
You people can blame her in most issues, but in my opinion in this one you got it wrong, learn to be responsible parents.
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SharpSharp
In times like this we need leadership to give direction to the ppl but Angie decided to provide arrogance....Report Abuse
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
Mama Angie tenderpreneur will suit her ministership is not her type ,"We don't provide beds, we provide pens and books" she talks exactly like an old gogo who plays mochina.Report Abuse
RobinX
MOTSOKWANA: With respect, nobody is interested in your adolescent sick fantasies. Masturbation should not be public.Report Abuse
Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEEoh, forgot,
the science lab
the sports ground,
the library (that's if ya'll black ppl school have one)
the teacher's desk
the admin office
the SANitorium
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Hahahahahahaha yeah, even under the desk in class while the teacher is teaches..
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RobinX
Let me tell you about myself. On weekends i spent most of my time in tarvens and we drink with these girls and i have slept with so many of them. i am not proud of what i am doing but if tarven owners allow them in a place of liqour what must we do. Their bodies can deceive you, thinking its an adult only to find you slept with a child.
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Ya bra i know what you mean...them chicks in tarvens are hard to resist and they easy 2 Fak...
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SLY007
@ ThirdEye - Quite right! Moreover she must be grateful that her boss (the president) probably on account of the fact that she had to swing her WL votes for Mangaung. If it was another president who is not so myopic and does not know the value of education in our society, she would have since been sent packing.Report Abuse
Heavenlydevine
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Dandan
Question to allWhy is it impossible to find a child from the towns family background dropping out at school as result of child pregnancy compared to rural and township girls
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Sentle
@Angie, then tell your teachers(the ones employed by the department of education of cos)to stop sleeping with pupils.Who are you and who are teachers.Dont you know that you and those teachers who sleep with these girls and boys are one?
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candilious
All well yes its not the responsibility of the School /Department but the parents to install good value into our kids.But you send your child to school with the hopes that he/she will get an even advance teroputic manner of Education which most of the kids come home and share with the family what their have learned right. The Department which changes rules and regulations on a daily base confuses the Teachers who inturn gets frustated and these frustration gets taken out on the kids.
Who in turns retaliates to the teachers and there we haveit Angie Who do we blame
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asaowe
DecemberWe parents like to shift the blame, it so true we allow corruption to happen in our own houses, boyfrds nd grlfrds sharing dinner wth parents.
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Pitso.MCCMA.SAFA
There is no minister here,she is minimonster. Her comment that pregnancies among schoolgirls and teachers who go to class drunk are not her department's problems is unacceptable,irresponsible and naive.Maybe she was trying to be radical and found herself spitting these directionless and unguided statement. Education is a very broad concept,it does not rotate around pen and pencil,it starts with those and reach susceptible parts of community. Teachers are older than learners,but that does not mean that they are life masters,if there is a need the department should intervene in a form of workshops to imrove life style of teachers. We are tired of these ministers and their rowdy president whom always avoid thier obvious responsibility.Report Abuse
MOTSOKWANA
THEmadame2B-BBEEI'm not a fake like you, im kasi guy
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DeOvi
@FlemzaOn this one I truelly agree with the minister , schools don`t provide beds for having se.x , but books and class rooms to learn, then how can you blame the minister for tenage pregnancy
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which books did xe provide, which classrooms did xe provide cos trees are the only classrooms available. And again teachers are not enough at schools
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Lenyora-Buckselona
KeRataBasadiMara vele, parents need to take responsibility, whats a minister to do when you have children that wash their hands in ultramel, burn carvela's, colour block like crazy and don't bother with school but rather impress girls, its their own parents that are enabling these brats and why are they not reporting rapist teachers to the police or making sure homework is done at the very least, most of these parents are outsourcing their responsibilities to government, then again Angie says her job is to provide pens and books, we all know how good a job she's doing right there.
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Dankie san.Well said.
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MOTSOKWANA
RobinXSay whatever, its a fact
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THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Heavelydevine....didn’t it ever occur to you that you might be easy to Fxk as well, i mean what makes you think that women never prey on man…like really, I go to certain places to prey on Man, and I get what I want, a good FXk,Report Abuse
MobBim
I don't like the tones she is using but she is telling the truth parent must also take responsibility when comes to parental care.... raising child is not an easy thing I can say is a collective effort including community, relative and family hold hands...unfortunetely minister told the truth in ugly way
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Blackstone.lebs
Dear AngieTeachers are department's employees and their bad conduct should be dealt with by the DoE, unless if they're additional teachers employed through the SGB.
School children should be guided by both parents and teachers, it's always been the case and won't change just to satisfy the minister's fear of accountability.
They don't really need a bed to bonk, they can do it on the same desk you're hiding behind while the teachers' out drinking.
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Hail
Who told you that sex is done on the bed only? What kind of a parent are you? If you did not have a parental love then Why are sitting in that offfice? What is your respondibility Mam? if you do not have something nice to say just sh*t up.Report Abuse
Little_Dude
THEmadame2B-BBEE@Heavelydevine....didn’t it ever occur to you that you might be easy to Fxk as well, i mean what makes you think that women never prey on man…like really, I go to certain places to prey on Man, and I get what I want, a good FXk,
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don't you have a man in life that can give you a good f%^&, than hunting????
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Coldcurry
Until parents and the community start realising their responsibilities I am with the minister on this oneReport Abuse
sabza007
I agree with Angie though, she did not send these horny, money making teenagers to open their legs.Report Abuse
Coldcurry
I think we can only faulter the minister for not being diplomatic otherwise the parents and community should take responsibility of their offspringReport Abuse
Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEE@Heavelydevine....didn’t it ever occur to you that you might be easy to Fxk as well, i mean what makes you think that women never prey on man…like really, I go to certain places to prey on Man, and I get what I want, a good FXk,
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Well when it come's to man it's OK with us coz we are not always the hunted we usually think we are the hunters in tarvens..and as a man i know how most women charish their tample's and how hard it can be to get laid with a chick u just met unless u are a skilled guy like me and smooth with the ladies now to the guy's who's game is flat it can be hard 4 dem so going to taverns en buy 3 hunters gold's and couple of cigi's seals the deal 4 ya...
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Tsatsatsa
Angie....I give up. As much as there is an element of truth in what she says, but the choice of words leaves a lot to be desired. She does not understand the role of her department.Report Abuse
Slapgat
Let us all be pragmatic about teenage pregnancy, not only in the Northern Cape but in the rest of South Africa. Research has revealed that teenage pregnancy is more often associated with socio-economic problems. This province is known for alcohol abuse, violence, poverty and child molestation. The same problems also affect provinces like KZN and Eastern Cape.Research has also found that teenage pregnancy is also associated with child grants offered by the government. Young girls fall pregnant just to access the child grants in order to buy material things like hairddos and fashionable clothes. This is rife in KZN.
Before we begin to attack the Minister, we need to look at the root causes of the teenage pregancy. Issues of socio-economic nature need to be addressed first. Create jobs in the Northern Cape so that communities can be self sustainable. Attend also to the issues around broken families where most of these teenage pregnancies are mostly located.
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Kone
She is a disgrace to our revolution!Im sure u Mama Lilian Ngoyi is turning in her grave!.............
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Missjoy
I really think the minister is right here, parents should be held responsible here. Charity begins at home not at schoolReport Abuse
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Dude...I do have a man..o bora, jerr that guy is boring, so i go hunting only during weekends and i do white man, they take me out overseas trips,,,,Report Abuse
Slapgat
KatakataVeered off the point as usual!!!!!!!!!! kikikikikikikikiki......kwakwakwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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-Cl!ck-
I blame E-tolls for teenage pregnancies..Report Abuse
MommaC
Have any of you thought that those 'lost' children are going to be the problem that YOUR children are going to face? Those kids who have no education, 12 kids and a hankering for R16,500 a month are going to be their burden in the future.Quite apart from the complete lack of ubuntu here, that should be foremost in your minds.
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Mmini
They don't have sex at schools, they have sex at homes.##########################################################
Suka!!!
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THEmadame2B-BBEE
@heavenly...ok, s.l.o.w.l.y now, didn’t it ever occur to you that you are the hunted, do you know what goes on inside the brains of a woman, this is what we search for, a good DIEK (even if it means going to a tavern drinking 3 ciders and cigis from our victims) we go for it, we fantasise a lot, haven't you noticed in the flat that you stay that it is security guards who Fxk those woman who drive di Benz and BMW and then give them only klippa as a tipReport Abuse
MommaC
As Elvis said :As the snow flies
On a cold and gray Chicago mornin'
A poor little baby child is born
In the ghetto
And his mama cries
Cause if there's one thing that she don't need
It's another hungry mouth to feed
In the ghetto
People, don't you understand
The child needs a helping hand
Or he'll grow to be an angry young man some day
Take a look at you and me,
Are we too blind to see,
Do we simply turn our heads
And look the other way
Well the world turns
And a hungry little boy with a runny nose
Plays in the street as the cold wind blows
In the ghetto
And his hunger burns
So he starts to roam the streets at night
And he learns how to steal
And he learns how to fight
In the ghetto
Then one night in desperation
A young man breaks away
He buys a gun, steals a car,
Tries to run, but he don't get far
And his mama cries
As a crowd gathers 'round an angry young man
Face down on the street with a gun in his hand
In the ghetto
As her young man dies,
On a cold and gray Chicago mornin',
Another little baby child is born
In the ghetto
And his mama cries
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MGEEZ
How did this woman who clearly is clueless of what her portfolio entails become a minister of primary education?? Let me guess....she also is a cadre of the ruling party!!! Pathetic....Report Abuse
Gijima
Education does not have a minister here. she always denies her responsibilities.I give upReport Abuse
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
@SlapgatKatakata
Veered off the point as usual!!!!!!!!!! kikikikikikikikiki......kwakwakwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Wena o nkentse thaka ya hao and ke tla o roba piel ka mpama.
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Laqasha
Specifically on the issue of pregnancy, the minister is spot on. Parents should not pass the responsibility of raising their kids to someone else.It's as simple as that.Report Abuse
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
It is the government's problem, they have given these kids too many f*@*& rights.A spanking has never k.illed anyone but lo and behold the government deems it a criminal offence........
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guiliano
This woman, is she the one who is the ancwl president? she is speaking like an immature person.Report Abuse
asaowe
why there is less pregnancy in white communities compare to us, is it poverty or breakdown of values amoungst africans, fact remain parents should take full responsibility of their kids behavior, y blame minister.Report Abuse
Slapgat
KatakataWake up to reality man, Lejapere ke wena!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Shredder
@MsKinkyakaKamaSutraIt is the government's problem, they have given these kids too many f*@*& rights.
A spanking has never k.illed anyone but lo and behold the government deems it a criminal offence........
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Gwede once mentioned that he uses a switch on his children. Yet they don't want other parents to do the same.
I blame satan and his demons for giving our government the laws they have implemented.
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patsa
It is true that teenage pregnancy can not entirely be attributed to the department of education. That being said, there are number of cases where young person’s get impregnated by teachers under the employ of the department. This is the problem of the whole society including families, communities, churches and schools (department). The department of education in recent months/years adopted name and shame campaign for teachers engaged in sexual acts with students. The situation is even more rampant in rural areas as teachers’ exploits impoverished students for their sexual ends. The teenage pregnancy is a big challenge for South Africa. This unfortunately proves to show that the use of protection is still lacking and ultimately the spread of HIV/AIDs epidemic remains the big risk still.The social media and TV content are dominated are showing pornographic materials. And the edge to learn and experience for young person’s make these things which were ideally meant to improve the lives of the people in turn destroys lives. The use of drugs and peer pressure has strip parents power to command and direct their children. As parents we must take concerted active role and responsibility for upbringing of our children. The small things like weekend sleep away should be avoided because often times that is used as the opportunity to lose self. Further, the stereotypes hold by communities dear for an example to have many girlfriends or boyfriends is cool; this should belong to the past. As festive season is at our door step, while to some this will be an opportune time with the family, unfortunately some people’s future will be destroyed.
Times have changed, cost of living is too high and HIV/AIDs destroy lives of many young persons. The society must revive the spirit of Ubuntu. Your neighbour’s child should be treated in like manner as you would in your child not as a potential girlfriend. We need to revive the moral compass of this country. South Africa is a great nation with rich diverse cultural heritage. We must refrain from allowing foreign influences to disrupt the future of this country. This is not a theory, rather i am talking as someone who was once a victim and took an active decision to be an active parent. I am involved in mentorship for young people, they need true real role models, people who have over came all odds.
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UKUFA!
Viva ANC,Goodbuy Education,
Goodbuy Health,
Goodbuy Jobs,
Goodbuy Happiness!!!!
Amandla!
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cornelius
This woman is not even fir to be a nanny, let alone a minister of education. Just like she cannot wash her hands of her duties, ANC members and voters cannot wash their hands - it is they who vote for this pathetic bunch who are destroying the futures of our children.Anyone who voted for the ANCinthe last election is as much to blame for the falling apart of our country.
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Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEE-U know pila pila u don't do that every week and i doubt u slp with dif dieks everyweek u just saying 4 the sake of saying it or myb on the other hand u just a plain H0....Report Abuse
Lenyora-Buckselona
@Sir Makhosini.I hear u boss "but" there is a saying that goes "U can take a cow to the river but u cant force it to drink the water" and thats what happening with these kids these days hence i refer to them as the lost generation. I also beg to differ with u when u say our kids are our photocopy's in essence they are but with us growing up we knew that school is school and what its for.When we were still going to school in our days there were no skhothane nonsense going on cos our parents those days were strict and u wudnt wanna rub them the wrong way especially when it comes to education.The problem Sir lies with parents not teachers or Angie.Again lets look at this skhothane scenario.Who gives these kids money to buy expensive clothes? Parents.Expensive food?Parents.Expensive Phones? Parents.It all boils down to how u were raised at home and that will reflect when u go to the outside world.
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Shredder
@HeavenlydevineTHEmadame2B-BBEE-U know pila pila u don't do that every week and i doubt u slp with dif dieks everyweek u just saying 4 the sake of saying it or myb on the other hand u just a plain H0....
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I know her. She comes from a very poor family. Now that she is earning a buck, she sees herself as a Madam to be. Don't give yourself a headache with her.
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Serene
LaqashaSpecifically on the issue of pregnancy, the minister is spot on. Parents should not pass the responsibility of raising their kids to someone else.It's as simple as that.
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very true.....passing the buck is not gonna help anything...we have SGB's. they must collaborate with parents on these socisl issues....and teachers that are out of way must be reported and eliminated...
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Heavenlydevine
@HeavenlydevineTHEmadame2B-BBEE-U know pila pila u don't do that every week and i doubt u slp with dif dieks everyweek u just saying 4 the sake of saying it or myb on the other hand u just a plain H0....
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I know her. She comes from a very poor family. Now that she is earning a buck, she sees herself as a Madam to be. Don't give yourself a headache with her.
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I just don't think ladies who work and have a BF to behave in this manner thats all.
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sowet123
Mr President and members of women’s league please recall Angie we had enough with these brainless women.What kind of a mother is she?
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Shredder
@Serene....and teachers that are out of way must be reported and eliminated...
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Good luck with that one. Their guard dog SADTU will never let that happen. There is a lot of wrong things going on in the country but we are never responsible and take action.
Sinudeity and Traveljunie, please bring back apartheid to fix this country.
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Serobapipi-
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Shredder
@Serobapipi-she's forever horny and thirsty for wine
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Hello
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Tom-Linken
We don't provide beds, we provide pens and books"It seems like when parents provide beds for their children, they convince them to be pregnat.
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-Cl!ck-
Angie's pregnant.. Her speeches are driven by her hormones.. *No textbook required to figure that one out*Report Abuse
Lehido
Lets be fair here people.....We all know Angie has drowned the Education Department...BUT PLEASE....She is right, parents should not blame her for their kid's ill-mannes....YES, she is a minister but for f*k sakes, she doesnt sleep with the children...Whats the parent's role in all this?...Lets be fair
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Heavenlydevine
Serobapipi-she's forever horny and thirsty for wine
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Ish my sister Ur Name yooooooo how interesting
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cornelius
@Lehido, the teenage pregnancies is one thing, but drunk teachers is another. How can it not be the department's problem ? They are employees of the dept. Strict discipline must be instlled by the dept. A teacher who arrives drunk, even only a little, or even just alcohol on the breath, must be fired, finish and klaar. How van such rubbish be allowed to teach our children, what example are they setting. For the minister to take this attitude is scandalous - our education wil lnever get right wioth a minister who does not even understand the functions of her department, and the simple fact that teachers are suppose dto be role models, people to whom children look up to. Sies sies sies !Report Abuse
mesip
Angie is 100% correct - parents please fulfill your responsibilities. Angie cannot do everything for you. As parents you have a very big role to play in your children's lives Hello, that is why as human beings we've been given a brain that functions differently from other species. Imagine if we all set on our laurels waiting for the creator to do everything for us!!! It's impossible!!! But then again it is the ANC's fault because it has promised to do everything for us (as we're on this earth to be charity cases) to ensure that it stays in power. Ahehe ANC Ahehe! give & do everything for us as we're parrots!!!Report Abuse
RobinX
Heavenlydevine: Your little teenage hormones are going into overdrive, laddie. Careful or your teeny little item might explode.Report Abuse
Droooooza
These school girls ba bonyelwa maan, Angie I second you on that one....Report Abuse
edna
She talks like a naïve retired lost druggie.Yes it’s not her problem because her children do not have sex at school. WOW! What a stupid comment Angie!!!!! I’ve lost some respect for you and I wonder why Zuma is not firing you and your fat black a**.
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MGEEZ
Angie is one of those people who are only profound when they are quiet. In fact you may mistakenly assume or think that she is smart when she is quiet until she opens her mouth and then .......Report Abuse
Heavenlydevine
RobinXHeavenlydevine: Your little teenage hormones are going into overdrive, laddie. Careful or your teeny little item might explode.
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Hahahahahahahaha dude my little item gets the jobe done
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Droooooza
ednayou and your fat black a**.
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you meant and your fat black a@ss?
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ShredderHeavenlydevine
Hi boys
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RobinX
Heavenly: You DO know that most women fake orgasm to reassure their poor men, don't you. Or aren't you old enough to watch adult talk shows?Report Abuse
Shredder
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How are you ausi serobapipi?
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Heavenlydevine
Just imagine if our country was run by a women...Report Abuse
Droooooza
RobinXHawu pinky gane lewena wa bonyelwa??? I see you are into sex vandag....
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THEmadame2B-BBEE
@ShredderJy ken my nie, how do i look like, waar bly ek, where did i school,
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Heavenlydevine
RobinXHeavenly: You DO know that most women fake orgasm to reassure their poor men, don't you. Or aren't you old enough to watch adult talk shows?
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I see you talkng from Experience dude how nice......
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THEmadame2B-BBEE
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@Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEE-U know pila pila u don't do that every week and i doubt u slp with dif dieks everyweek u just saying 4 the sake of saying it or myb on the other hand u just a plain H0....
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I know her. She comes from a very poor family. Now that she is earning a buck, she sees herself as a Madam to be. Don't give yourself a headache with her.
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I just don't think ladies who work and have a BF to behave in this manner thats all.
…………and you can behave like this picking up ladies at taverns and when I do it it’s a sin….
.............Patriarchal tendencies
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THEmadame2B-BBEE
@heavenly.......I'm so blaady disturbed by your comments, you have patriarchal tendencies, and why r u calling me a Ho....then you are a WANKSTAReport Abuse
Laqasha
@SereneI agree. Some of these problems, really, have been there long before she was a minister. Also I do think these are larger societal problems and have very little to do with the minister, this one in particular.
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Heavenlydevine
Serobapipi-Shredder
Heavenlydevine
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Hallo fertile your name makes my deik feel pain by only reading it..
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THEmadame2B-BBEE-Ya right a H0 thats what u are and it's not Appropriate for a lady to pick up man every week it's either u weak or u just lost respect 4 yourself...
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THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Heavenly...........Kxk u, but its ok for you to do it, shiet i WISH u get an erectile dysfunction
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Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEE@heavenly.......I'm so blaady disturbed by your comments, you have patriarchal tendencies, and why r u calling me a Ho....then you are a WANKSTA
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Haow i said it in a good way moss didn't mean to upset u.Sorry neh mara askere basadi bao fasa everyweek we call them h0's no offence by we call them that.
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Popeye
Hayi lomfazi uyimbuzi…what kind of mama are you? Really parents protect all children regardless of being their own blood…magogo Angie its time to retire before we tell you to step down…sies Angie sies…PHI!! Do not act in this way.Report Abuse
Shredder
@THEmadame2B-BBEE@Heavenly
...........Kxk u, but its ok for you to do it, shiet i WISH u get an erectile dysfunction
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Hahahaha. No please, never wish that on anyone.
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Ofi_boy
This woman is a stupid F*ck...nxaReport Abuse
Makhosini0408
Lenyora-BuckselonMy argument is that as a Parent, the Minister must not divorce herself from the challenge of teenage pregnancies. She should be calling for solutions so that we can nip this bad behavior. It is not time to point fingers but to call all stakeholders for a solution.
Our upbringing, I agree differs from our children's one. They have more challenges than us. We were not given unnecessary rights. Motshega and her collegues decided that when we punish our children, we are killing their self esteem and they gave them more rights and conveniently forgot that rights go hand in hand with responsibilities.
Still on the subject of teenage pregnancy, I have been asking this question: Who is impregnating our liitle girls, Is it teachers, sugar daddies or their classmates? We need to know, so that we can get to the bottom of this scourge.
I will tell you that some parents are irresponsible and I mean that. Last month, my 13-year old indulged in a drinking spree and guess what, a parent went to the bottle store to buy booze for the kids. Unless and until we re-ignite the same spirit and resolve that we had in the 80's of working together towards a common goal.
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Heavenlydevine
@Heavenly...........Kxk u, but its ok for you to do it, shiet i WISH u get an erectile dysfunction
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Ya it's Ok for us man to do it we man it's in our n*ature...en on the other hand wena o m*osadi doing it make u look desperate and Ridiculers plus u become less Attractive...now calm down we only discussing u don't have to be h*ostile
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Tasto_
Minister textbook non-delivery was not your problem but one of your excuses for poor matric pass in Limpompo gonna be text saga, plse don’t use that excuse !!Indeed you couldn’t ensure delivery of books, expecting you to delivery beds was too much to ask isn’t?
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TSUPE
Angie she is right she doesnt provide bed but books and if the school governing body,community and teachers dont help there is nothing she can do cause she set rules that need to be followed but no one follows themReport Abuse
RobinX
Tsupe: With respect, how blind can loyalty be?Report Abuse
Lenyora-Buckselona
@ Sir Makhosini.U see exactly what i said earlier on that we parents as well as teachers cant put micro-chips on our kids and keep track of them all the time.As for your 13 year old indulging in booze is also beyond you and your teachers control,because u are @ work and u presume that your kid is @ school kgante he/she is not.On the issue of teenage pregnancy i think its our teachers mostly who are impregnating these kids.The reason why im saying this is because have u seen how these teenage girls dress to school in their skimpy mini tunics and uniforms.As a teacher u cant teach properly and u constanlty focusing on this girls mini-skirt.Hence i said parents a still to blame for this for letting their young girls walk out of the house in mini skirt uniforms to school.As for the teachers they shud know better never to sleep with school kids and those who do shud be removed from the education system for life.
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Nongoloza24
Wena angie, are those teachers not employed by education department??Are you really saying children don't have sex at school??Where do you get that information mara??Report Abuse
Tasto_
@TSUPE - I hope u a decent being where evea u are maar plse think b4 post ppl gonna take u as a liar or fool either way.Which books she delivered or go to here to refresh your memory-o-fly http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2012/07/23/we-won-t-act-hastily-against-education-minister-over-textbooks---zuma !!
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Nongoloza24
THEmadame2B-BBEE@heavenly...ok, s.l.o.w.l.y now, didn’t it ever occur to you that you are the hunted, do you know what goes on inside the brains of a woman, this is what we search for, a good DIEK (even if it means going to a tavern drinking 3 ciders and cigis from our victims) we go for it, we fantasise a lot, haven't you noticed in the flat that you stay that it is security guards who Fxk those woman who drive di Benz and BMW and then give them only klippa as a tip
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You are what we call lehure, ke re s'febe sa d'ifebe.
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Ayobas
Ja neh, le nna ke bona maspa ao, Zebra Force wins, it's a headline on Sowetan, but THE ALL MIGHTY, MIGHTY BHAKHANIYA WINS, it's "business as usual". Just like Mostweding FM, it looks like when a presenter/mogasi was hired, at the interviews, one of the question were are Chiemps/Chappies, whatever the fcuk names is, suppoter? If your answer was yes, you got the job on spot, but if your answer is "THE ALL MIGHTY PIRATES", you were told that you are over qualified for the job, try next time.Report Abuse
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MOTSOKWANARobinX
Let me tell you about myself. On weekends i spent most of my time in tarvens and we drink with these girls and i have slept with so many of them. i am not proud of what i am doing but if tarven owners allow them in a place of liqour what must we do. Their bodies can deceive you, thinking its an adult only to find you slept with a child.
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My broer I'm with you on that one_these children they mature very quickly and when you see them ko ditarven with their razor cuts, moer ke groot sister....I used to fack them as well ke mo shaye ka nkaoza from behind till a phinye ka nyy00 kikikikikikikikikiki
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TupacAmaru!
TSUPEYou really have to stop smoking that SHlT because it's messing your brain up.
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The-Vince
But, I support Angie on the fact that it's not their (departments )problem if school girls get pregnant, if the descipline and education is not instilled from home by parents, and parents get drunk infront of their kinds, and they don't get taught by the parents with issues regarding to pragnency and alcohol abuse, the department can offer as much health education classes, but if students don't see that as way of helping them to save themselves, then the department shouldn't be blamed for this. But with teachers getting drunk, the department should be involved and take drastic measures to descipline those found of contravening the law. and again it's no secrete that most students have sex norwadays in school premises, but teachers can't follow students around the school yard all day, and the department cant be blamed for this, but if found descipline should be emposed on students found guilty of puplic indicency.Report Abuse
Tasto_
@The-Vince - "BASIC Education Minister Angie Motshekga says pregnancies among schoolgirls and teachers who go to class drunk are not her department's problems"So its not her problem drunk teachers @ school ?
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asaowe
I guess truth hurt so much 2sum parent out there, sum bloggers here are ma gogos already their kids got pregnant,Report Abuse
Tasto_
"A KwaZulu-Natal school principal accused of raping 11 of his students has appeared in the Scottburgh Magistrate’s Court"Its not her problem the tragedy above cause she didn't deliver beds nor books!!
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Sophisticated_Ignorance
WOW, such ignorance from a "parent" entrusted with the running of a department that is fundamental to the growth and progression of this country, basic education!As a parent (from being a child yourself) you know that from being a toddler, a child goes through their life's journey via the schooling system. It is where they learn how the world works, not at home but at school. Kids spend 9 to 10 hours at school (incl extra murals) and it is where they develop a social understanding of the complexities of life. Home is where parents teach discipline, conduct, manners, decorum and where they impart perspective and rationality. Parents nowadays form part of a "reference" system for kids... unlike us, where the school system was a reference point for the things that were happening in the streets and the world...
It is a sad shame to hear (read about) a parent, a mother, saying all these things. She is there to cash in on her salary and that's about it... Empty leadership where no accountability is established. Underqualified to manage the most crucial department next to HEALTH in any government.
In today's way of life, a child's home is at school. School needs to be made cool again and with people like this in "charge" forget it!
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Ratshufi
Who's girlfriend is Angie ko parliament?Report Abuse
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Nongoloza24This is fuken bullSHIET, just because i'm a woman love sax then i ma ostracised, I wish you have an erectile dysfunction FOREVER
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Sophisticated_Ignorance
I wonder what she's going to say about the Principal who raped scores of pupils in KZN currently on trial...Report Abuse
Lolilo
1. do i deliver text books?2. i privide pens and books
3. next...................fix your teeth, mara what is she doing?
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Tasto_
@LoliloDid she said pen.is & books ?
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Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEE-Hahahahahaha calm down dear it's cool u love sax we get it but why u have a problem when we call u sifebe it's a name i mean the name come's with the actions u do moss..Report Abuse
bongee
khaba lenja!!Report Abuse
Lolilo
@tasto_4. no leader from the womens .... is there any positive statement from her?
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Winilen
I love the minister & she is 100% correct...what are the parents realy doing? SA is so messed up like this because parents are afraid of their own children & expect other people(teachers) to teach their children about life.Tell them minister...SAns need to catch a wake & take responsible for their actions.
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-Cl!ck-
"Dankie for the nanaz.. Eeeee.. the love.. the love.. for the showpiece.. you must ask the.. ask the.. the.. the.. skippaz if it's 5 or 4.. then you must show for the.. for the.. Zulu @ss and eeee... Sotho what-what!!.."Report Abuse
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Heavenly.....Is jy dof.....What is a Bitch, please make my dayReport Abuse
Nongoloza24
THEmadame2B-BBEE@Nongoloza24
This is fuken bullSHIET, just because i'm a woman love sax then i ma ostracised, I wish you have an erectile dysfunction FOREVER
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You can wish all you like mara ok'salayo uyisfebe....you have a man and yet you go around tarverns hunting for a d!ck??Osfebe man
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TupacAmaru!
The story below is from another page of Sowetan and may Angie Motshega please read it because sexx takes place not only on beds at home as she suggests but also in the school offices.---------------
Captain Thulani Zwane said the case was postponed to November 12.
“He will remain in custody until then,” said Zwane.
The 44-year-old was arrested at his school in Umkomaas on Monday after the girls told police that he had raped them in his office.
Police had been at the school to speak to pupils about their rights and had highlighted sexual abuse.
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mamalethabo2
If i can remeber correctly as well textbooks were not deliverd and she also passed the buck..this lady needs to go..as Dr Ramphele she's busy with politics intead of doing her jobReport Abuse
Lenyora-Buckselona
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16-12-1838
Education is probably the greatest gift that we can give our children, in the modern world it is crucial for success and personal advancement...WHY then do we accept such idi.otic and pathetic people such as this du.mb b1tch to take charge of our most valuable future commodity - our kids???I wouldn't even trust this fo0l to look after my pet rock, she takes useless and incompetent to a whole new level. Her attitude is just typical of this current regime, nothing is ever their responsibility or their fault...yet all around their expensive luxury 'compounds' things are rapidly collapsing and people are suffe.ring more than they have ever done in the past!
Things cannot be allowed to continue the way they are, not just this angie b1tch but all of these self-serving corrupt imbeciles are rapidly destr0ying what little chance this country and our children had of a positive future. I am no longer filled with hope, what a sad place this has become!
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Nongoloza24
Lenyora-Buckselonatesting
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I hope ga o te kgotle m0tete o ntse o re testing yalo.
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Lenyora-Buckselona
Hai hai sowetan why are u blocking my comments.Bo Maezi bona they swear @ us the whole day but u not blocking them jeses.Report Abuse
Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEE@Heavenly.....Is jy dof.....What is a Bitch, please make my day
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Short Answer=A biatch is some1 who opens legs for a dif nikka everyweek....Don't act like u don't knw wts a biatch
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Lenyora-Buckselona -Tsek msimba xinile
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KennyS
this woman is a witch.Report Abuse
Lenyora-Buckselona
@Angie.Tell them they musnt pass the buck.If their kids ke m*tete like their dads bo Nongoloza and mat*katse what do they expect u to do.Phela u are not a magician wena u dont transform bathoReport Abuse
16-12-1838
mamalethabo2You are so right, in fact all of the pathetic anc 'top rankers' are only interested in their personal agendas and not doing what is expected of them as "supposed" servants of the people - unfortunately, their view on democracy in South Africa is that the people are here to serve them. They have also done an incredible job of convincing their loyal followers that this is the case too, until the blind realise this then things will only continue getting worse.
The only struggle and revolution now left, here in S.Africa, is for 65.9% of the voting population to free their minds, release their own cranial shackles and emancipate themselves from mental slavery.
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Lenyora-Buckselona
@Sowetan.Lesele maan why remove the article on the white NPA guy whose son was found gulity of culpable homicide instead of muder for knocking down two ppl.@HeavenlyHell.Ja uthini md*di?
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Heavenlydevine
Lenyora-Buckselona-Angi khulumi jou failpop zikhiphani ngawe?Report Abuse
Lenyora-Buckselona
16-12-1838mamalethabo2
You are so right, in fact all of the pathetic anc 'top rankers' are only interested in their personal agendas and not doing what is expected of them as "supposed" servants of the people - unfortunately, their view on democracy in South Africa is that the people are here to serve them. They have also done an incredible job of convincing their loyal followers that this is the case too, until the blind realise this then things will only continue getting worse.
The only struggle and revolution now left, here in S.Africa, is for 65.9% of the voting population to free their minds, release their own cranial shackles and emancipate themselves from mental slavery.
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I agree with u bosso.The only person who can save S.A from zuma is Barack Obama.He shud invade S.A and forcibly remove the double diff man from Disney Land nkandla like he did with that guy wako Libya,i forgot his name.
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THEmadame2B-BBEE
@HeavenlydevineI thought a bitch was a female dog.....
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Lenyora-Buckselona
HeavenlydevineLenyora-Buckselona-Angi khulumi jou failpop zikhiphani ngawe?
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Im not in the mood mfanakithi vandag ne so oska nsukela asseblief.
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Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEE@Heavenlydevine
I thought a bitch was a female dog.....
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Nah u wrong a bitch is some1 like you
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zuluchick
wow harsh but far from the truth ministeran enviroment can directly affect outputs, now a drunk teacher will achieve what exactly at the end of the day? what happens to the safety of the pupils and other co-workers?
your comment is heartless and careless, and funny enough you claim you dont provides beds but textbooks...no you even failed there..and if pregnacy is not your problem then how my former highschool had 'sickbay'?? if that is a problem that eminates from home then why provide health care at school
you honestly do not deserve your title and job
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Heavenlydevine
Lenyora-BuckselonaHeavenlydevine
Lenyora-Buckselona-Angi khulumi jou failpop zikhiphani ngawe?
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Im not in the mood mfanakithi vandag ne so oska nsukela asseblief.
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I am not in a mood nywenywenyweeeeee tsek saan i get it it's that time of the month 4 you....Hope u got di tempons...
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Heavenlydevine
zuluchickwow harsh but far from the truth minister
an enviroment can directly affect outputs, now a drunk teacher will achieve what exactly at the end of the day? what happens to the safety of the pupils and other co-workers?
your comment is heartless and careless, and funny enough you claim you dont provides beds but textbooks...no you even failed there..and if pregnacy is not your problem then how my former highschool had 'sickbay'?? if that is a problem that eminates from home then why provide health care at school
you honestly do not deserve your title and job
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Ya neh How come a d*mb a$$ like this become minister of education as dom as she is
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KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
As long Zuma is a man of women in ANC they'll say (women) whatever they want and wont take their duties because he dances with them when they're partying.Something serious was supposed to be done about people who talk like teenagers.
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-Cl!ck-
I see some id!ots here forgot their fishpaste and marmite sandwiches at home.. Typing manure with their sewerage fingers and cracked Zum-bak lips..@ Heavenlydevine
Yes you plumber... I'm talking to you.. Navy @ss, ch!mpanzee head..
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Nongoloza24
KatakataEmaotoAditshepeAs long Zuma is a man of women in ANC they'll say (women) whatever they want and wont take their duties because he dances with them when they're partying.
Something serious was supposed to be done about people who talk like teenagers.
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And they were supposed to start with you jou donnor
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Heavenlydevine
Cl!ck-I see some id!ots here forgot their fishpaste and marmite sandwiches at home.. Typing manure with their sewerage fingers and cracked Zum-bak lips..
@ Heavenlydevine
Yes you plumber... I'm talking to you.. Navy @ss, ch!mpanzee head..
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Yes u red A$$ baboon wat u itches ur balls
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16-12-1838
Please people make that change, please help all of us who truly care about the future of this country and realise the p0wer that you hold. Let Democracy finally work for you...stop accepting the disrespect and ab.use our so-called leaders show us on a daily basis, even though they share the same pigmentation as you.Would you go into a store and pay more than half of what you earn in a month on a broken pair of shoes, a rotten piece of meat, a cell without buttons and/or screen, a bottle of beer/coke with no liquid in, a magazine with no writing or pictures inside, a car with no engine?????
No, of course not!
So why then do you sit back and let the criminals that run this country constantly sell you lies, broken dreams and empty promises while they smugly walk away, stuffing their deep pockets full of OUR hard earned tax money? Many people sacrificed their life and lives in the not so distant past to provide that vote, use it wisely and make it count...DOWN with corruption, incompetence through cadre deployment, cronyism and crime. Down with anc, viva change viva!!!!
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-Cl!ck-
@ Heavenlydevine"wat u itches ur balls" -------- WTF??.. Remove your bald-head from Angie thighs and speak properly..
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Heavenlydevine
-Cl!ck-@ Heavenlydevine
"wat u itches ur balls" -------- WTF??.. Remove your bald-head from Angie thighs and speak properly..
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Can't u see it's a typing error u d*mb cnut couldn't even make out what i was trying to say the way oleng dom kateng i wouldn't be surprised if u not related to this biatch
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THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Heavenlydevineit's clear that here we speak with incompetent people, I mean you go to taverns and bonk loss vroumense, did u take HiV test
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Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEE@Heavenlydevine
it's clear that here we speak with incompetent people, I mean you go to taverns and bonk loss vroumense, did u take HiV test
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Haai man don't say i am incompeten maan en y ask me abt di test i should be asking u the same question?
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zuluchick
@Heavenlydevineher husband is someone big there in the ANC so one comrade will help another comrade wether or not he/she knows the job
could someone please tell me who Angie's husband is.
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THEmadame2B-BBEE
@devine....you don't know what a bitch is, so WTF, let me guy you are an administrator at the National Youth Development Agency ne, figured...Report Abuse
Heavenlydevine
zuluchick@Heavenlydevine
her husband is someone big there in the ANC so one comrade will help another comrade wether or not he/she knows the job
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who's her fada?
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Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEE@devine....you don't know what a bitch is, so WTF, let me guy you are an administrator at the National Youth Development Agency ne, figured...
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Hey wena r u dom or a retard??in my books a bitch is a bitch and does axectly the things you do maaan comprende
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THEmadame2B-BBEE
@devine....i doubt it, you books, tlitliltiltiltitlti*drop dead on the floor*Report Abuse
Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEE@devine....i doubt it, you books, tlitliltiltiltitlti*drop dead on the floor*
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lol now u laughing @ me ya ma book it's called a bitch book u can find it ko cna
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-Cl!ck-
@ HeavenlydevineWrong.. That's what happens when your grandfather is on parole and leaves his E250 samsung floating on his mattress like a boat.. Then you steal it and come type manure with your fishfingers that opens Hansa quartz week-in and week-out at the local shebeen..
In short, no typing error.. It's who you are Mr "wat u itches ur balls"..
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Nongoloza24
THEmadame2B-BBEE@Heavenlydevine
it's clear that here we speak with incompetent people, I mean you go to taverns and bonk loss vroumense, did u take HiV test
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Wena did you take the test??Akere you are being facked by security guards and black label drinking guys at tarverns??
zuluchick
baby love angie's husband ke mathole motshekga lol.
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THEmadame2B-BBEE
@devinei bet it’s called that, so you are looking for tricks in the book, careful if application to the theory is conflicting you might end-up failing or falling on your Diek...well I guess failing to you is a trend
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Heavenlydevine
-Cl!ck-@ Heavenlydevine - Hahahahahahahaha o ra mang? shut-up u sh*t face m prety sure wena u using a type righter to be mo sowetan i don't know how u did it but u did anyway...
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zuluchick
@Heavenlydevineuhm i dont know....im more interested in the husband
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THEmadame2B-BBEE@devine
i bet it’s called that, so you are looking for tricks in the book, careful if application to the theory is conflicting you might end-up failing or falling on your Diek...well I guess failing to you is a trend
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Lol see bo dom ba gao i just said i wrote the fleppen book 4 god sake's how can i be looking for tips in my own book dummy.....Bona jo ge ole sifebe o sifebe why don't u embrace it's actually not a bad thing d*febe diatsa pleke monate...
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zuluchick-I bet ke m*aghwapheni wa Zuma
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THEmadame2B-BBEE
@24....*yawning...boring*Report Abuse
-Cl!ck-
@ HeavenlydevineAre you trying to write your diary??.. To me it looks like a combination of diarrhea and diabetes..
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Nongoloza24
THEmadame2B-BBEEBoring ke your filthy kuku.
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THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Devine....eeu is that vanac, sorry i can't read itReport Abuse
Heavenlydevine
@THEmadame2B-BBEE-ai kgante what race are u Hooker? (asking in a nice way)Report Abuse
Heavenlydevine
-Cl!ck-@ Heavenlydevine
Are you trying to write your diary??.. To me it looks like a combination of diarrhea and diabetes..
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Hey click the dikc face isn't time to go was ur g-strings?
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RobinX
Heavenlydevine: Do you seriously enjoy showing how incredibly juvenile and idiotic you are? Then you are even more stupid than I first thought. Yap away, sick little puppy, everyone here is laughing at you...Report Abuse
RobinX
Cl!ck: GREAT: SPOT ON.Report Abuse
Heavenlydevine
RobinXHeavenlydevine: Do you seriously enjoy showing how incredibly juvenile and idiotic you are? Then you are even more stupid than I first thought. Yap away, sick little puppy, everyone here is laughing at you...
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You again dude wat da hell do u want frm me?
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-Cl!ck-
@ HeavenlydevineHe wants you to dive in the deepest ocean.. Whether you sink or float, life goes on.. *wink*
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Intomb'omxhosa
Ugly Angie right there!Report Abuse
Heavenlydevine
-Cl!ck-@ Heavenlydevine
He wants you to dive in the deepest ocean.. Whether you sink or float, life goes on.. *wink*
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Lol i am very amused by wat u say....
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Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEE-Hey hope u didn't take me serious neh was playing no hard feelings neh u not s*febe neh dear wabona dis 2 g@y's click and robinhood are trying to strengthen their bond ngami...CLICK-and RobinX go scuk each ada's balls g@y fakz
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THEmadame2B-BBEE
@heavenly...then you are a disturbed childReport Abuse
Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEE@heavenly...then you are a disturbed child
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lol y u say dat dear?
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Kone
Sowetan can you please remove this joke from my face, she make me sick in our stomack.Report Abuse
RobinX
Heavenlydevine: I need nothing from you other than that you grow up and learn to talk decently, as for having my jewellery sucked, it's fine... you're doing a great job, sonny. Yes, there... hmmm.Report Abuse
Heavenlydevine
RobinX-sis tell that 2 ur BF -click-.Report Abuse
Serobapipi-
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-Cl!ck-
@ HeavenlydevineTime's up carguard.. I'm about to leave.. You'll find your R2 tip underneath where I parked.. But wait, I'll have to tax you 14% from it as my d0g in Nkandla needs some Bob martins later this afternoon.. Cool??
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-Cl!ck-
@ HeavenlydevineThats works out to R1,72 (-14% tax)
............................R1,66 (-3% UIF)
............................R1,16 (-30% medical aid)
............................R0,58 (-50% unpaid leave)
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THEmadame2B-BBEE
well, you practically do what i do, just because i am a woman a doing it you call me a bitch, you say you have written a book on bitchi’ology, you use me as a shield to avoid remarks made to you by Robin and CLick...and now you retract your comments you made about me as a joke ………i think your illness may be diagnosed asStatistical Manual disorder,
Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, or
Amphetamine withdrawal psychosis
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MGEEZ
I think that this woman is on pot!!! There is no way a sober Angie would make this highly intoxicated statement!!!!Report Abuse
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Ouch..Report Abuse
Heavenlydevine
-Cl!ck- Tsamaya bayo shapa matanyola man stabane ndini...........................................................................................
DR THEmadame2B-BBEE-I am not afraid of those 2 punk's and i am not hiding or using u as a human shield...I really mean it dear is either u take my apology coz nna i wont l*ick ur a$$ for it=Kidding
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Shredder
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Ke eng yanong sweetheart? O tennwe ke eng or ke mang?
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THEmadame2B-BBEE
@devine.....u see, wa sika son straightReport Abuse
Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEE@devine.....u see, wa sika son straight
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Yes i am indeed can u pls cure me?
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THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Devine....no i won't cure u i'll SPANK you.....tlitlitlitliReport Abuse
Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEE@Devine....no i won't cure u i'll SPANK you.....tlitlitlitli
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Hahahahahahaha that will do just fine i hope u not legwinya askere i don't want legwinya to spank this handsome man...Hahahahahaha
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THEmadame2B-BBEE
Devine...what the hell is that "legwinya"....please don't kill the moodReport Abuse
Shredder
You two, get a room and get it done over with.Report Abuse
Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEEDevine...what the hell is that "legwinya"....please don't kill the mood
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lol u don't know legwinya it's a (fatkuk) so when is my spanking session or rather say consultation going to b...
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Heavenlydevine
ShredderYou two, get a room and get it done over with.
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Willing to offer us ur room bra?
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THEmadame2B-BBEE
Consultation is gonna cost you, and i won't go for 3 ciders or ciggies.....bora bora my skat…Report Abuse
setladi1
you old idiot, who said sex can be done of bed only, bloody old mutual.Report Abuse
Heavenlydevine
THEmadame2B-BBEEConsultation is gonna cost you, and i won't go for 3 ciders or ciggies.....bora bora my skat…
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K will 4 ciders cover the cost's it's 4 or nothing ur loss
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cdek
Dear Ms Motshekga, when teachers are the ones impregnating their students, that IS the department's problem. When sex ed is not taught at school, that IS the department's problem. Yes, parents are primarily responsible for their kids' moral education. But schools have a responsibility to add to what the kids are taught at home.But then again a Minister who doesn't feel it's her fault that an entire province doesn't get school books would not accept responsibility for students "making sex" at school.
Why is she still in office? She should be fired and forced to apologise to the students she has failed.
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cdek
maneaterWe don't provide beds, we provide pens and books"
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i vividly remembering you saying its not you responsibility to ensure that books are delivered. tell us now , WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILTY so we can hold you accountable?
hahahahahahaha! you are "ON-POINT" dear!
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somaartakeit
you arrogant uneducated fat female corrupt p!g you destroyed education of our children our future and you want us to accept that you are blameless in teh aftermath of destruction of SA's educatioin? more than ever SAns must campaign and vote anc regime out the sooner the better, we NEVEr compromise on principled and moral leadership who take responsibility for their actioins, not this angie animal and rest of the pack of thieves who are destryong SA, I am very angry right now cause everything on front pages of the news is everything negative the anc and its so called is inflicting upon unsuspecting SAns.Report Abuse
Bebesocs
@Ratshufi...she is with Zuma as well as Mac Maharaj. The husband is another fool with a revolting mouth that protects Nkandlagate. Does Angie have children? May be we need to teach her a good lesson of how to be a parent.Report Abuse
legendarybenedictoholic
teenage pregnancy may not be her problem but i think she must do something about the teachers who show up at school drunk, unless the department of education does not have an etiquette.Report Abuse
Bebesocs
Angie Motshekga goes around the country throwing such statement that it is not her problem, so we are on our own, so we need to decide on our own about the behaviour of these teachers, we need to show our teachers how serious we are with our childrens' education.Report Abuse
Heavenlydevine
@cdekBut then again a Minister who doesn't feel it's her fault that an entire province doesn't get school books would not accept responsibility for students "making sex" at school.
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It's having s*x not making s*x neh otherwise u right
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BlackSeed
I agree with you Minister. What are Parents for then? If these fake parents can’t take care of their children, they should stop making them.Similar to those that advocates cancellation of Grant money by suggesting that people should stop making babies if they can afford them. Don’t see the difference there.
I see infants being sent to school to learn to walk in future ek se.
What should Angie do when Sowetan publishes a story of two officers having sex on their front page?
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CumFast
The statement about not having sex at school is wrong........Talking from experience!!Report Abuse
skwamasamabele
Pass the buck, Angie. Let me tell you how they do things in the UK (where I live). 1. student turns up drunk, school contact Social Services, Social Services contact the police, police arrest parents, social services take child into care, school suspend child to study in isolation. In pregnancies, scool contact social services and police, police trace the father, if he's over-age, he spends 5 years in prison, signs a sex offenders' register for 15 or 20 years. After the child is born, they take it into care/adoption, student go back to school. No-one passes the buck over here, BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO DO THEIR JOBS, ANGIE!!! Unlike you, useless piece of s**tReport Abuse
Printa
Its true, parents dont want to face their children's actions and put rules and laws within their homes and blames the rot on the DOE. If home were stable, the shenanigans happening in schools would be a thing of the past.Parents take responsibility.
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Pinzollo
why the hell should she care? Her daughter goes to Harvard law school.Report Abuse
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