QUESTIONS about how President Jacob Zuma is funding the construction of his private family compound are set to arise after he dismissed claims that it was financed by taxpayers' money.
Ok everybody i will let it out in the open. I am funding it through my tax money! is everybody happy now? Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
MGEEZ
@!#Sinudeity#!
Of course the tax payers are paying for it. If not directly from tax coffers then indirectly through a tender of some sorts.
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This Zuma guy must think that we are all morons to believe that he is paying for such a development!!!
I am convinced the president is a liar. Why would public works say they cannot disclose the amounts if they did not pay. Sure his family can pay - but if they received the money through corrupt means it means we are still paying. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
Pointman
Just five years ago one of his fiance had to stay with a friend because he could not support her - now he has a R200m compound. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
!#Sinudeity#!
Dubul'Amanzi - Morning, dont think it has a meaning. Just a random nick I thought up for competing in online gaming events. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
MGEEZ
@Pointman
Just five years ago one of his fiance had to stay with a friend because he could not support her - now he has a R200m compound
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Exactly!!!! So where the heck did he suddenly get so much money, if it is not our tax money??? Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
Dubul'Amanzi
!#Sinudeity#!
Dubul'Amanzi - Morning, dont think it has a meaning. Just a random nick I thought up for competing in online gaming events.
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Ok great ,thanks Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
warry
Handsoff President Zuma Handsoff. When you wake up angry you must know Zuma is not a stress relievers and anger reliever. Find something better to do. Mbeki bought a Jet to travel around do we complain. Noooooo. Try something better, he has the right to be who he is. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
!#Sinudeity#!
warry - We did complain when Mbeki wanted his jet. We complained when Zipper was wanted his jet. We complained when Zipper rented TWO Private jets to fly him around. We spend R100 million on JZ's wives each year. We spend R200 million on JZ every year, even though his salary is R2 million.
Hellz no, our scuuumb@g president needs to realise he cant blatantly steal money from South Africa. Report Abuse
@ Sin, security. Security. Problem you people claims to know better instead of waiting for results of any investigation released. Handsoff president Msholozi Handsoff. Handsoff the People's Choice Handsoff. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
!#Sinudeity#!
warry - According to the audit reports (That has been made public), the money isnt being spent on security. Its being spent on building 25 houses on the complex. You can bullsh1t the sheep, but some of us do more than just follow hollow leaders around. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
cornelius
If this is true how come they are so reluctant to give details of the money ? Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
TheGenius
In a democratic country like the one we live in, people get the government that they want. People voted Zuma in, they need to be happy with what they chose. I voted the DA here in the Western Cape and I am happy with what I chose.
Zuma has become such a liability in the country that even all his kids are in one way or the other supported by us - the taxpayers. I still do not understand as to why do we spend so much on Zuma. He is not educated; He spent only ten years in Roben Island; He has many wives and countless children. The man cannot run his own affairs. The man is a confirmed convict - he has a previous conviction for tax evasion.
As president of the country he pays no tax, he is using the state cars to get around, he is driven by many chauffers, he is guarded by countless bodyguards, he has doctors, cooks, support staff, etc, assigned to him, and as if that is not enough, his Nkandla home will have a clinic, it will have a helipad, it will have a bunker... is this what we voted for?
His ex wife Nkosazana paid millions for a cameo role in Generations - It was during his wife's tenure that Mbongeni Ngema was paid the now infamous 14 million.
UZuma kulabo abangazi uyisehluleki esidala - kusukela ngo 1994 ubehola imali eshisiwe. He has always been a member of the executive, starting off as a provincial minister of economic development in KwaZulu-Natal in 1994 and today he is president of the country who fly around on Inkwazi sometimes accompanied by other planes. Nithi uyoza akhohlwa kodwa? Mina ngicabanga ukuthi namhla efayo uyokwendlalelwa ngamadoda ambalwa ethuneni njengoNandi, umama wale nkonkoni ewuShaka. UZuma uyabusa ntombi, kudala saqala simthwele and we are still supporting him, taking where Shabir Shakes left off.
Jy is reg Sin, yours just end up here on Sowetan blog space. Hamba uyophalaza, inyongo iyabulala. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
asaowe
when wl these saga end ppl, i knw nxt pres wl do the same eish were r screwed bigtime Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
mashima?
As long as we are here in SA citizen we are S???p!!t thinkers. Just imagine with the little salary that I am earning without any benefits I have to do everything for my own, built my own house, pay for my children's school fees, buy buy whatever, the list is endless
So this top dogs they have benefits and earn a lot of money on the other hands. What is that??? Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
iPhone4
"which is spearheading the construction - to task"
Did they just say SPEAR? Funny how this name seems to follow our president....lol I find it fascinating seriously Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
DJ-Winner
Zuma has a beautiful home, I must say. White people must stop this thing of constantly insulting the president and black people. Their DA will never win if they continue with this attitude... Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
asaowe
relax ppl im funding Zoooooooooomas house. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
MorenaWaPolelo
Zumaaaaaaaaa? Zumaaaaaaaaaaaaaa? Zumaaaaaaaaaa????? Ok enough!!!!!!!!! Mr President you say the governmet paid for the fence only???? Well that is a moer of a fence for you alone, and the excuse you use for the house in pretoria is unacceptable if i may ask why the undergroung corridors??? Are gona use them when you sneak???? Eish Polokwane conference has realy cost us maan!!! Now we have to rely on th poor like that grant lady in Orange Farm!!! Report Abuse
Who is funding Nkandla you ask? Well I will tell you, it is the poor people living in a shacks waiting for a houses. It is every poor person voting for the current ANC leadership. It is sad and the looting from the poor goes on undisturbed. Whose fault is that?? Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
Seja-Bana
@ sowetan can we have the statistics that was released today, how maney are we, the last time i checked we were 49 million. Report Abuse
Seja-Bana
I guese we a 60 million if you add Nigerians were are 80 mill if you add Zim Zims we are 110mill if you add the Pakis we are 115 mill if you add Ethiopians we are 120 mill. So we are about 120 milll to be exact! Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
!#Sinudeity#!
DJ-Winner - Its not JZ's home, its our home. We paid for it. With the concept of "pay as you use", when will we be able to go on holiday in Nkandla? Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
Dzhennde-lavho-zuma
The president is talking bullsh!t,what kind of a question is that?
Our tax money is funding Nkandla mxai bloody HIV Aids agent! Report Abuse
Security for what who can ever think of killing domkop like Shower Head who can not even read properly it is like the same as killing Mangozooothu the two are useless atlist Rolihlahla or Thabo their moral fibre is excellent yeaahh Report Abuse
ANC is corrupt as a whole this money to build Nkandla-ville is from the arms deal. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
Goldstone
Let the President Receive what he deserves DA, What committes do you want to initiate now we already pay many committees Hawks, Public Protector, SCOPA, etc stop wasting our money too Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
ShadesOfGrey
Who is funding Nkandla?
You and I are, that's who.
To see a report of just how the ANC is trying to stall and cover up this latest corruption, take a quick look at the M&G site. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
DJ-Winner
!#Sinudeity#!
DJ-Winner - Its not JZ's home, its our home. We paid for it. With the concept of "pay as you use", when will we be able to go on holiday in Nkandla?
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Can I go and drink with my friends at De Klerks house? It was built by my tax and I'm funding his salary and benefits... Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
ShadesOfGrey
Yes, let Zuma receive what he is due.
His day in court. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
svavava
its tax payers money vele , we all know that deny it all u want Report Abuse
sibuyim
vote of no confident>
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Well, South Africans are confident in Zuma. The whole nation is behind him... Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
TUGLYF
@all
we had all kinds of sick and ridiculouse coruption. but now the question is; what do we do? how do we try to remedy the situation. whats the way forward? who do we vote for?
the previouse rigime stole apples from the tree, but was also wise enough to prune it so that the tree can bear more apples. the current one; is a brainless mafia. it is choping down branches of the tree, in bulks nogal. soon there will be no tree, just a fruitles, leaf-less, branch-less stem in a dry desert.
think long and hard before you cast your next vote. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
Fred55
Zuma opens his mouth and sh1t comes flowing out of it..............wipe your mouth Mr President for life.
The nation does not want you but you are forcing yourself on us and your cronies in the ANC and Cosatu are forcing you on us. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
DJ-Winner
People are missing a point here. You madafcukers are quick to comment, but you don't even know what is going on.
Look, Zuma extended his own home, using his own money. The department of public works then provided security, which escalated the cost. You are attacking the wrong person. You should be directing your anger to the department of public works... Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
Tlakenyobehle!
DJ-Winner
sibuyim
vote of no confident>
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Well, South Africans are confident in Zuma. The whole nation is behind him...
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
THE WHOLE NATION OR THE HOLE NATION HA HA HA COME ON!!!! Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
Mamlambo
Complaining about Shawara?
Ask yourself: who were you voting for in the previous election? ne?
"Every democracy will get the government and the president they deserve"
"Government came to say that we need security features. They have done things in my building for security"
Is this guy president of the government he is speaking about? It is becoming difficult everyday to respect the office of the president when the man who is leading it is intellectually bankrupt?. How long should we endure the intellectual assault from this clown, he is short on detail, he has no grip on levers of power, rely on patronage to run the goverment. What did we do to deserve this man really? Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
TUGLYF
Zapiro is a profet. he saw vision of lady justice geting gang banged. thats exactly what has transpired. we all got banged! hard and we never even saw it, until the bastrd climaxed... Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
Nongoloza24
DJ-Winner
Look, Zuma extended his own home, using his own money. The department of public works then provided security, which escalated the cost. You are attacking the wrong person. You should be directing your anger to the department of public works
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You are right DJ people are quick to critisize...tell where can I find details about how much he spend for the upgrade and how much public works spend for security...also are you saying security costs about R240 million?? Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
MissBhakajuju
Your Comments are Killing me Guys, LOL... LOL... LOL...
@ Vendalious, o ra gore this thing e dazz ka maka...
@malemaforpresident
Security for what who can ever think of killing domkop like Shower Head who can not even read properly ...... LMAO
Fisrt for R250million we can secure the border fence from Indian Ocean from Mozambique to Zimbabwe up to Namibian border.One time his family was footing the bulk of the bill.Lastly how much does he earn per annum less than 2% of the total cost of these renovations.
Liar Liar Liar King Liar !! Hail King Lair !! Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
Lehido
The sooner Zuma is taken to task, the soone he will f*k off Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
Tarantula
DJ Winner, who are you calling madafuckers? Cant you debate without using foul language? Mxim, typical of Zuma supporter ,maybe you inherited stupid genes from imbecile Zuma. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
Zabaragast
You built your own house? Fair enough. A fence doesn't cost R200 million. As the prez and since this is dragging your good name through the mud. How about launching an investigation into where R200 million of tax payers money went or where that figure came from? Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
Tasto_
Who is building the helipad & for what my next question who is gonna buy this Helicopter?Whos is gonna pay for his private pilot maar won't mind if he is gona fly it himself.
Who is building the medi-clinic in his homestead with surgical-theatre probably?
Laslty hope this mtoher fcuker has built\upgraded a schools in his homestead which I doubt cause he does not know the value of education!! Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
MmaSeshego
We all know who is funding the damn thing... Question should be: Why are we funding it? Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
T.C.T
This corrupt President failed to comply with a court order regarding 'Spy Tapes'. He must prove to the NATION that he is clean before going to Mangaung,DP KGALEMA wen his partner was accused of wrong doings he asked the Public Protector to investigate clearly that shows how he respect the law
"I'm grateful to Kgalema Motlanthe for having stopped Thabo Mbeki's endeavour to have me expelled from ANC," ............i think KM now regret saving this brainless ZOOMA s a.ss Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
TUGLYF
we got freedom, we are all free. just that a few elite are more free than the rest of us.
we are all equal in the eyes of the law, but then again, theres that few elite that are more equal than the rest of us.
True liberation will only be tasted and experienced by JZ and the gang and their families.
(having the anc in power doesnt mean we have been liberated; go back and read animal farm!). its as clear as that.
Its time like these when we need to be learning of true liberation came about to other places like France. read about the French revolution. read books like "The tale of two cities". Report Abuse
Security measures, so you need 20 extra buildings at 8 mil a pop for security measures, zooommmmeeeer,,, you migh fool your uneducated and s.tupid anc supporters but not the rest of us.
Enjoy it while you can, you still have until 2019 when the DA will start to rescue what you are putting to the slumps. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
lutumba
this thing is lying maan,,he only earns a little over 2mill a year but can afford a 200mill house,how is that possible also considering that 4 years ago he was broke and being helped by his terminally ill friend.he surely thinks we are all "dwarfs' as the other comrade put it. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
Little_Dude
Serobapipi-
Die topie wa re reipa struu!
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jwang, because o roba p!p!???? Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
BRA-MAFUTHA
Of cause this Shawara head his lying through his rotten stinking teeths. Your are a liar Zuma everyone know that u r using our tax money. Report Abuse
what i'm failling to understand in this vendetta is it Zuma who authorised the release of this monies or Public Works relevant official??? Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
Ma-Bhova
@MGEEZ
@Pointman
Just five years ago one of his fiance had to stay with a friend because he could not support her - now he has a R200m compound
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Exactly!!!! So where the heck did he suddenly get so much money, if it is not our tax money???
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This is the same guy that Shabir shaik was paying for school fee's for his children and giving him pocket money, infact how can he make R200mil in 5yrs when his salary is not even above R3mill?
Yadelela le shower-cap. Even a taxi driver (Khulubuse) became a millionair, eish... tax zethu kodwa zityiwa kakubi. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
SOLUTIONS
Tarantula
DJ Winner, who are you calling madafuckers? Cant you debate without using foul language? Mxim, typical of Zuma supporter ,maybe you inherited stupid genes from imbecile Zuma.
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Dude, don't waste your breath on DJwinner, he is a troll, there can never be someone as d.umb on earth to give the comments he makes, he just comes to the site to try and tense everyone up. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
CYBORICO
what happened to beeing innocent till proven guilty, thuli is on it and the corrupt public works r being probed for it, so why claim the president is lying when we havent heared anything formal yet, speculation and feelings turned to facts again? Thats SA for u, Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
Tasto_
Since he is not an alumni of any school even in Nkandla or kwaNxamalala there is no mention of even a chreche in thi wasteful expenditure and his fans expect me to b quiet !! Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
Little_Dude
CYBORICO
what happened to beeing innocent till proven guilty, thuli is on it and the corrupt public works r being probed for it, so why claim the president is lying when we havent heared anything formal yet, speculation and feelings turned to facts again? Thats SA for u,
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Good point my fellow blogger. I smell personal hatred from some bloggers here Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
CYBORICO
@Dj Winner
u r an embassador for black people my man, never follow suit, never do what everyone does, dont join them simply because they are in large numbers, they can still represent a nonsense idea., keep it original bro, many here didnot even read the article, went straight for the comments, hence all the tjatjarag Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
Tasto_
@CYBORICO - will u frog march Jacobzuma to court he seem to be allergic to it !!
CYBORICO - "Innocent until proven guilty", the 2nd most said thing by ANC. Public works is keeping the information 'secret' from us, using apartheid laws. The contractors have signed off on the development, which is for buildings, not security. The official line from PW, is that R250 million is being spent from government budget (IE, tax money).
what u mean apartheid law? u mean acts regulating security measures for our statemen? well thats SA statutory accept it or ship off, yes it needs ammending for transperency reasons(its all in the article) so now that there is people to disagree with u, u discard the facts and go for the mocking game, hoping all the clueless blogger will still side with u? if u were president will u stay in your current place? No? who would have funded the new safe place? tax payers u said? yep state money u clever soul. just yersteday a cache of weapons was found and u suggest the president should stay in a shack? ha ha ha u can Hate Zuma, thats you right, but dont try to fool us in the process Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
!#Sinudeity#!
CYBORICO - "what u mean apartheid law? u mean acts regulating security measures for our statemen? well thats SA statutory accept it or ship off, yes it needs ammending for transperency reasons"
So, the apartheid law is good, but needs amending for transparency? So, in other words, you are contradicting yourself?
"if u were president will u stay in your current place?"
The STATE provides HOUSING for the president. You do know about these right? They are paid for, by government, so that the president doesnt have to stay in his own private residence. You do know this right?
You are only fooling yourself here dude. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
T.C.T
Zuma is clearly trying to delay handing over the transcript of the tapes until the Mangaung Conference is over. nkandla hero is trying to hide his corrupt ways? to hell with his 240m house the day will come wen the law deal with him ntsa engwe le engwe ena le tsatsi la yona i wish this clown o end up in jail Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
CYBORICO
VENDALIOUS
This thing is a liar joh
were raised in an orphanage bro, u dont sound like u had someone who cared to raise u, u sound like the is a little vendalious boy crying for attention inside u. useem to be looking for attention in all the wrong places bro, and this will go a long way in helping put your l marginalised people on the map neh? wise move bro wise move. wonder what your parents say when they here u speak about the president, not proud i can guess, there is always a potato that start the rot in any bag, maybe u r the rot of your family Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
ShadesOfGrey
Cyborico - there are already official residences for the president in Pretoria, Durban and Cape Town. So, why does Zuma have to use our *public* money (you know our tax that's intended for hospitals, roads etc) to build his own *private* palace in Nkandla?
Oh yeah, because he is as corrupt as you get. That's why. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
!#Sinudeity#!
CYBORICO - WTF are you doing? Implying that people who disagree with Zipper wasting government money as being orphans? Dont be a duuumb@ss dude. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
!#Sinudeity#!
CYBORICO - Why are you and DJ Winner the only dooucheb@gs here defending Zipper? Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
injendala
look at the other homesteads surrounding Zuma's compound.spot the diference... huge neh? i wonder wat his own ppl say wen they see their money being thuggd by showerhead...the sad thing is that they will still vote for him come the next elections. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
Dzel
According to News24
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New information in documents, shows that improvements to the estate have already cost the taxpayer almost R250m.
According to the documents, the department of public works has since 2009 spent R188m on building work, and paid R54m to consultants.
This brings the costs of the project to R247m. The original budget calculated in 2009 was R23m.
A breakdown of spending on the Nkandla compound, which forms part of the public works department's prestige portfolio, includes
1. R23m for “emergency work”.
2. R121m to builders,
3. R2.4m for bulletproof glass,
4. R9.2m for a fence and
5. a payment of R1.9m to a leading international elevator company.
6. Millions have already been paid to consultants, including architects, surveyors, engineers and project managers.
The presidency said in an earlier statement that the improvements to the compound were a family decision, paid for by the Zuma family.
How i so wish that cde lekota and other parliamentarians could remove this Zuma thing before mangaung conference to stop all this fuss about leadership continuity supported by the Zuma faction.
The man can't answer a single answer on spot and is so vulnerable and is always lost when discussing in burning matters. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
s.cold
NINA NINOMONA
DO YOU UKUTHI U-HELLEN ZILLE UHLALAPHI?
U TREVOR MANUEL YENA,,NALA UKUBONA UMUNTU ONMYAMA EPHUMELELA
@sinudeity
u r a not such a c.lever guy u know? there is nowhere where it states that the president is fo.rced to stay in a state house. and how do u propose he will fit his whole family in a state house? someone must sleep on the lawn neh? or the garage? Zuma has circumstances that require him to stay in a bigger house, hence he chose his own, how many state houses for the presidents extended family? a.nger and h.ate make many a once smart man very d.umb Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
malemaforpresident
The People Shall Govern!
•Every man and woman shall have the right to vote for and to stand as a candidate for all bodies which make laws;
•All people shall be entitled to take part in the administration of the country;
•The rights of the people shall be the same, regardless of race, colour or sex;
•All bodies of minority rule, advisory boards, councils and authorities shall be replaced by democratic organs of self-government.
All National Groups Shall have Equal Rights!
•There shall be equal status in the bodies of state, in the courts and in the schools for all national groups and races;
•All people shall have equal right to use their own languages, and to develop their own folk culture and customs;
•All national groups shall be protected by law against insults to their race and national pride;
•The preaching and practice of national, race or colour discrimination and contempt shall be a punishable crime;
•All apartheid laws and practices shall be set aside.
The People Shall Share in the Country's Wealth!
•The national wealth of our country, the heritage of South Africans, shall be restored to the people;
•The mineral wealth beneath the soil, the Banks and monopoly industry shall be transferred to the ownership of the people as a whole;
•All other industry and trade shall be controlled to assist the wellbeing of the people;
•All people shall have equal rights to trade where they choose, to manufacture and to enter all trades, crafts and professions.
The Land Shall be Shared Among Those Who Work It!
•Restrictions of land ownership on a racial basis shall be ended, and all the land re-divided amongst those who work it to banish famine and land hunger;
•The state shall help the peasants with implements, seed, tractors and dams to save the soil and assist the tillers;
•Freedom of movement shall be guaranteed to all who work on the land;
•All shall have the right to occupy land wherever they choose;
•People shall not be robbed of their cattle, and forced labour and farm prisons shall be abolished.
All Shall be Equal Before the Law!
•No-one shall be imprisoned, deported or restricted without a fair trial;
•No-one shall be condemned by the order of any Government official;
•The courts shall be representative of all the people;
•Imprisonment shall be only for serious crimes against the people, and shall aim at re-education, not vengeance;
•The police force and army shall be open to all on an equal basis and shall be the helpers and protectors of the people;
•All laws which discriminate on grounds of race, colour or belief shall be repealed
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WE HAVE BEEN SOLD OUT Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
CYBORICO
!#Sinudeity#!
CYBORICO - WTF are you doing? Implying that people who disagree with Zipper wasting government money as being orphans? Dont be a duuumb@ss dude.
we look at it from all angles, our minds r not clouded by hate and anger and it seems we know that the masses r not always right, coz if they were africa will be far by now. many here just conform and folow whoever makes the nicest and loudest sound,
@Dzhennde-lavho-zuma....ndo dala nga dzina lavho!!! Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat
Who's funding Nkandla? That is a good question. Because the politicians are ducking and diving, we can oly speculate. President Zuma himself gives two versions. In the first one he says the family built the homsetead. In the second one, he says he built the house himself. And now already we have a problem because the two versions are obviously contradictory. The first version, if the family built the homstead, could it be that Aurora money was involved, considering that Khulubuse Zuma is Zuma's brother (Michael) 's son. The Aurora liquidators have to follow the money.
Could Zuma have built the house himself. We also know that Jacob Zuma was struggling to make ends meet before he became president. How can we forget an incident where Jacob Zuma was waiting at Capetown International Airport (with his bodyguards) , out if cash waiting for Schabir Shaik to give him R500. We also know that Msholozi also signed hundreds of cheques which were dishonoured or bounced. We also know that some businesspeople e.g Mr Reddy from KZN was providing loans to Msholozi to build the Nkandla homestead. Some people were saying that Reddy was donating money as a payback to Zuma because he got tenders and also other business with the help of Zuma when the latter was KZN MEC for Economic Affairs.
But we also know that there were allegations of offshore bank accounts related to the arms deal. Accounts in Mauritius and Isle of Man (UK) among others and some held via third parties. There is always a question of whether that money has found its way back into South Africa (assuming that the stories were true). There are relevant bodies ( e.g SARS, Financial Intelligence Centre, The Hawks among others) that can look into these things.
Another allegation is that Public Works is paying for some of the construction in Nkandla. That would mean that Jacob Zuma's private home has been illegally declared a National Key Point without following due process. Even if the house was declared a National Key Point, there are procedures, contraol and caps on expenditure and it would seem in this case the Handbook was tossed out. It is important for Jacob Zuma to come clean on these issues. R240m on Nkandla can build many houses for poor people who stay in informal settlements. This is just not acceptable. An ANC president should be different from some of those African despots who used the Treasury as their piggy bank. This is not how Oliver Tambo, Nelson Mandela and Thabo Mbeki would have done things. This entire project has to be canned. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
MommaC
R200 mil for a fence? Jirrie, what kind of fence is that? Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
Nwanawamukalaha
s.cold
NINA NINOMONA
DO YOU UKUTHI U-HELLEN ZILLE UHLALAPHI?
U TREVOR MANUEL YENA,,NALA UKUBONA UMUNTU ONMYAMA EPHUMELELA
WHAT ABOUT MINISTERS ABAHLALA EMOOIKLOOF,HAARTEBEESPOORT,SANDTON ECT
YOU LIKE IT OR NOT ZUMA WILL GET I SECOND TERM AND A DEVELOPE LA KUDINGEKA KHONA
UMANDELA WADLA MALINI,UMBEKI YENA?
HAMBANI NIYODLA ATHUVU MHLATHI YENU,,NX
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Zuma is not successful but instead he's busy ra@@@@@@@@@@ping our tax money.
All thos people you are mentioning were or are not doing anything obviuos to the poor man on the ground to see. Because of his hunger for power Zuma thought he can manipulate the public which he won't succedd in doing. The public put him there and they supported by the parliamentarians can remove him democratically without using a coup de tat format. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat
@MommaC
R200 mil for a fence? Jirrie, what kind of fence is that?
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Oct 30, 2012
MommaC
Zuma is on ETV at the moment with the census figures.
Why do they let that man read? Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
Dzel
According to our Constitution a sitting president may be removed from office on the following grounds:
Section 89 Removal of President
1. The National Assembly, by a resolution adopted with a supporting vote of at least two thirds of its members, may remove the President from office only on the grounds of ¬
a. a serious violation of the Constitution or the law;
b. serious misconduct; or
c. inability to perform the functions of office.
Now based on the above grounds for impeachment Zuma appears guilty of the following.
1. Abuse of public funds or improper use of public coffers for personal gain
2. Deliberately misleading government and the public regarding the nature and extent of public funds on personal
Both of the above are grounds for impeachment of the President but I am not holding my breath that a vote of no confidence is going to be passed in a parliament dominated by the ANC, very sad indeed. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
!#Sinudeity#!
CYBORICO - Do you have any idea how big the state houses are? They could easily host all of Zippers wives. Most of his kids are out of school now, do you expect us to pay for all of them as well? We already pay R100 million to all of JZ's wives A YEAR.
"it seems we know that the masses r not always right"
Indeed, the masses gave us JZ as president. Come on dude, if you are not angered by JZ and how he is f***ing South Africa over, then you are ignorant to what is going on in South Africa. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
MommaC
ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat
Tjo, boet, for that kind of price I'd expect the great wall of Chiina around my house! Even with the kickbacks, that is one moooeeerse amount for a flippin FENCE, Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
Ayobas
R200+mil, hey some people are living life to the fullest. Former Director General of the Repuplic, Mr Thabo Mbeki, his house was only R8mil but idiots were dissaproving it. That fat boy called Malema said he can build a mension cost R16mil, today here comes apgrading of R250mil. What going on here? Nna I saty in a shack cost only R3,000.00, life is not fair. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
NTANDA
In SA there are 150 million people instead of waisting R250 million on that you should just give each SA citizen R1 million uqede ngendlala in SA you will still have R100 million to waste coz this is just the waist of tax payers money esiyisebenzela kanzima!!!
This man think we are morons like him!............ Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
malemaforpresident
Eish yeah it is like a dream a new born baby at 70? And but why do we allow ourselves to be rulled by a 70 years old just to ask these people are very old and outdated what is he going to do with a bunker at the age of 70 and why is he opposing to step down there is something fishy here Tata Mandela may God bless his sole Allahu Akbar served only one term now we see only curcus i have really lost confidence in the ANC the focus should be on taking care of the poor of the pooorest but they are fighting for positions how will they achieve their strategic goals Nxaa i am lost can someone point the direction SA is going it is like driving on a highway without overhead direction control signals Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
swona
if it was countries like Zambia, zuma would walk streight to prison after his term, but here in SA, since he was a president chances r he might enjoy life at Nkandla and look after his cattle! Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
Msydodo
I still dont understand why his changers were droped, and why he was elected as a president after all those scadals, THERE IS NO SMOKE WITHIOUT FIRE, dis man is corrupt, he enrich him self and his people of Nkandla, MALEMA, HELP PLZZZZZZZZZZZZ Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
Winilen
I love SAns all they do is talk & insult but no action. in isiZulu they say "ifa leziwula lidliwa abahlakaniphile"... Zuma dont care about the insult you throw at him because what he want he get & we pay for it.
You(The Educated) talk about him being uneducated, cant read properly he dont care about all that he is the President of the country whether you like or not and he will be elected again for the coming election. All you can do is insult as much as you like but he is taking your money.
We are more than the ANC members & we have the power to remove Zuma. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
!#Sinudeity#!
Msydodo - "I still dont understand why his changers were droped, and why he was elected as a president after all those scadals"
Nobody does, especially seeing as how nobody has seen the evidence that allowed secret deals to be made behind closed doors. Even now, Zipper is refusing to release the evidence. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
Tasto_
@Winilen - I don't get u maar question for u was Zuma deliberatley doing it or was it genuine of him @AFCON draw he had CapeVerde upside down and mind this was beamed around the Continent&World ??
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Malema put him there to start with so I don't think he is the best candidate to call on for help Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
Ratshufi
What a stupid question ...where else will he get money to fund nkandla ...we are paying for it Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
Winilen
@Tasto_
@Winilen - I don't get u maar question for u was Zuma deliberatley doing it or was it genuine of him @AFCON draw he had CapeVerde upside down and mind this was beamed around the Continent&World ??
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Mistakes happen...:)
This Zuma fellow reckons his two heads give him the capacity to think better than your average citizen with one head. He forgets that a citizen with one head and a well functioning brain is better than him with many brainless heads. Re na le motlholo wa presidente. Thusang!!! Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
SOLUTIONS
Msydodo
I still dont understand why his changers were droped, and why he was elected as a president after all those scadals, THERE IS NO SMOKE WITHIOUT FIRE, dis man is corrupt, he enrich him self and his people of Nkandla, MALEMA, HELP PLZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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So you want to go from one corrupt and ask the other corrupt to help, the blind leading the blind comes to mind.
i wish this development was from home town man eish!!!! Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
paracute
all of you Zuma haters think that should someone come into will be better than any of the previous presidents they are all power hungry and will just come and finish what was started by those who were in power before, never mind the political parties and others motive is to get the power and take us back to the previous era where certain individuals where regarded as better human than anyone else where they were served as Gods, i think we haves that era a long time ago but we still have those who still have wishes to go back there, I know and understand that even these rulers of today still treat us a bit harsh than those who ruled before, and everyone is aiming at a revenge and it is all at our peoples expense.
South Africa should have grown bigger than this and should be the most respected country form it's history and how it attained it's democracy and and revolution, for some countries only hear the word democracy but do not know what it looks like. claiming and fighting for ancestors and Heroes won't help if we are not following their foot steps for they would be meaningless.
mark my words!!
no one will ever be good in our eyes until Margarette Thatcher come to SA or until Mangope takes Over for they were known as IRON LAW MASTERS Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
Phathuza
We must vote fro Cogress of the People than corrupt ANC Leaders at least it is an alternative better than Anc . Vote for Cope SA PLEASE Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
Tasto_
@Phathuza - no Lekota is a clown of gigantic proportion is another cartoon character!!
Man you are loosing it now, that one is the worst of them all if you have affiliated to COPE You're not gonna cope, so please resign before it's too late my friend Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
CYBORICO
@Sinedeity
ndeed, the masses gave us JZ as president. Come on dude, if you are not angered by JZ and how he is f***ing South Africa over, then you are ignorant to what is going on in South Africa.
my man i have learnt through the years that all the decisions and the utterings I have made while angry have either came back to haunt me or caused irreparable damage and made me a fool in the process, u can learn from those life experiences aswell. the fact that something is wrong up there doesnot mean any criticism u make is right, u can be saying gabage. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
P4T
Kuyi Abuse yabampofu le. Kuyacaca ukuthi iANC yeyabathizeni. Report Abuse
ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat
so wena suddenly u r expect enough to know the difference between " my family built the house" and I built my own house) is there actualy a difference? do u have to tell all nobodies that your son built u a house? or will it be enough in many circumstance to just refer it as your house(which will be assumed u built) Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
MommaC
Phathuza
Cope can't run a conference - how are they going to run a whole country? Do you even know who your leader is yet?
Na. Made that mistake last elections and I'm not making the same mistake twice Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
cdek
DJ-Winner
People are missing a point here. You madafcukers are quick to comment, but you don't even know what is going on.
Look, Zuma extended his own home, using his own money. The department of public works then provided security, which escalated the cost. You are attacking the wrong person. You should be directing your anger to the department of public works...
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EXCUSE ME!!!! HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK ZUMA EARNS TO BUILT A MULTI MILLION RANDS????????? Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
Phathuza
MommaC
Phathuza
Cope can't run a conference - how are they going to run a whole country? Do you even know who your leader is yet?
Na. Made that mistake last elections and I'm not making the same mistake twice
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Who is the alternative party then ?because we cant vote for shower man he is liabilty , He is misusing tax payers money , What if he is elected for the second term , Are going to vote for him? Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
Smaiza
Only 1600 DA members complains. My President since I and my family voted for ANC, the Government can use our Tax money to upgrade Nkandla and other places. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
MommaC
Phathuza
I'm struggling to come to a decision on that at the moment. I have no cooking clue who will get my vote next elections. Not gonna be the showerman though. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
SOLUTIONS
Phathuza
We must vote fro Cogress of the People than corrupt ANC Leaders at least it is an alternative better than Anc . Vote for Cope SA PLEASE
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Why vote for a weak opposition party when there is already a strong one, we need to get the Votes to a 50/50 basis. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
!#Sinudeity#!
Smaiza - "My President since I and my family voted for ANC, the Government can use our Tax money to upgrade Nkandla and other places."
Your tax money? But OUR tax money is already going to pay your grants. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
!#Sinudeity#!
SOLUTIONS - Because MommaC is trying to play middleground by pretending that she doesnt like the ANC or the DA :P Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
MommaC
Sin
LOL
not pretending - I don't like either of them Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
-Cl!ck-
@ MommaC
Don't worry.. I'll be launching my own political party.. I'll keep you posted when my rally hits your town soon..
Scopa concerned about national audits
Cape Town - Parliament's public accounts watchdog committee Scopa has voiced concern that the 2011/12 national audit outcomes indicate slow progress by departments towards achieving clean audits by 2014.
"Most departments are in the unqualified [category] with other matters' audit space, thus slowing the progress towards clean audits," Standing Committee on Public Accounts (Scopa) chairperson Themba Godi said on Tuesday
"We have also noticed with concern, the lack of movement in the audit outcomes of the department of public works, despite numerous engagements and attempts by various stakeholders to provide lasting solutions to the department's challenges," he said.
The committee was also concerned that the home affairs department had received a qualified audit opinion, a regression from the previous year's outcomes.
"We are calling for decisive leadership intervention in resolving some of the challenges faced by these departments and others that have acquired undesirable audit outcomes," Godi said.
As part of Scopa's oversight focus, the committee would speak to these departments to seek clarity on the reasons for the regression.
Our major determination in this regard is to ensure that the country efficiently utilises its financial resources in a manner that will ensure the realisation of its developmental objectives."
Keywords - Lindikhaya Mpambani, Servcon, Tokyo Sexwale, housing, bonus, defunked, housing, South Africa, government owned enterprise
@CYBORICO
ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat
so wena suddenly u r expect enough to know the difference between " my family built the house" and I built my own house) is there actualy a difference? do u have to tell all nobodies that your son built u a house? or will it be enough in many circumstance to just refer it as your house(which will be assumed u built)
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If you pay attention to detail, you will see that there is actually a difference. The first one says, I did not build this alone, my family was involved. The second one says "I built my own house". The first one could include money from Aurora. The second could include money from the arms deal and the Reddys. That is the difference but you know, we cannot put the old man on the stand. Just by the way, doyou stay in Nkandla or you just go there occassionally to visit. I say this because I see you are very emotional about Nkandla matters. You should let us know. Report Abuse
Oct 30, 2012
child4real
Lets face it ppl,he asked for his machine(mshini wam,mshini wam song that you used to laugh about)
You gave it to him,what did you think he was gonna do with it, kill himself and his family, Nah, to kill you with it and that's what he does, You got what you diserve why complain now? Report Abuse
FORKED-TONGUE, your advisors are misleading you. You are busy 'digging up your own grave'. You can lie about other things but in this case you should have admitted that WE are funding it and apologize if somehow the upgrade offended us. I do believe most people would forgive you.
Psalm 2
002:002 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,
002:003 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
002:011 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
Colossians 4
004:001 Masters, give unto your servants that which is just and equal; knowing that ye also have a Master in heaven. Report Abuse
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!#Sinudeity#!
Of course the tax payers are paying for it. If not directly from tax coffers then indirectly through a tender of some sorts.Report Abuse
Dubul'Amanzi
Morning !#Sinudeity#!, whats the meaning of your name?Report Abuse
McCountryMan
i know you are lying shawara, you didn't even spend a penny from your pocket towards the building cost.Nna Ke Sharp ka wena
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maneater
Ok everybody i will let it out in the open. I am funding it through my tax money! is everybody happy now?Report Abuse
MGEEZ
@!#Sinudeity#!Of course the tax payers are paying for it. If not directly from tax coffers then indirectly through a tender of some sorts.
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This Zuma guy must think that we are all morons to believe that he is paying for such a development!!!
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Pointman
I am convinced the president is a liar. Why would public works say they cannot disclose the amounts if they did not pay. Sure his family can pay - but if they received the money through corrupt means it means we are still paying.Report Abuse
Pointman
Just five years ago one of his fiance had to stay with a friend because he could not support her - now he has a R200m compound.Report Abuse
!#Sinudeity#!
Dubul'Amanzi - Morning, dont think it has a meaning. Just a random nick I thought up for competing in online gaming events.Report Abuse
MGEEZ
@PointmanJust five years ago one of his fiance had to stay with a friend because he could not support her - now he has a R200m compound
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Exactly!!!! So where the heck did he suddenly get so much money, if it is not our tax money???
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Dubul'Amanzi
!#Sinudeity#!Dubul'Amanzi - Morning, dont think it has a meaning. Just a random nick I thought up for competing in online gaming events.
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Ok great ,thanks
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warry
Handsoff President Zuma Handsoff. When you wake up angry you must know Zuma is not a stress relievers and anger reliever. Find something better to do. Mbeki bought a Jet to travel around do we complain. Noooooo. Try something better, he has the right to be who he is.Report Abuse
!#Sinudeity#!
warry - We did complain when Mbeki wanted his jet. We complained when Zipper was wanted his jet. We complained when Zipper rented TWO Private jets to fly him around. We spend R100 million on JZ's wives each year. We spend R200 million on JZ every year, even though his salary is R2 million.Hellz no, our scuuumb@g president needs to realise he cant blatantly steal money from South Africa.
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Diva7
Liar! Liar! Pants on fire!!Report Abuse
warry
@ Sin, security. Security. Problem you people claims to know better instead of waiting for results of any investigation released. Handsoff president Msholozi Handsoff. Handsoff the People's Choice Handsoff.Report Abuse
!#Sinudeity#!
warry - According to the audit reports (That has been made public), the money isnt being spent on security. Its being spent on building 25 houses on the complex. You can bullsh1t the sheep, but some of us do more than just follow hollow leaders around.Report Abuse
cornelius
If this is true how come they are so reluctant to give details of the money ?Report Abuse
TheGenius
In a democratic country like the one we live in, people get the government that they want. People voted Zuma in, they need to be happy with what they chose. I voted the DA here in the Western Cape and I am happy with what I chose.Zuma has become such a liability in the country that even all his kids are in one way or the other supported by us - the taxpayers. I still do not understand as to why do we spend so much on Zuma. He is not educated; He spent only ten years in Roben Island; He has many wives and countless children. The man cannot run his own affairs. The man is a confirmed convict - he has a previous conviction for tax evasion.
As president of the country he pays no tax, he is using the state cars to get around, he is driven by many chauffers, he is guarded by countless bodyguards, he has doctors, cooks, support staff, etc, assigned to him, and as if that is not enough, his Nkandla home will have a clinic, it will have a helipad, it will have a bunker... is this what we voted for?
His ex wife Nkosazana paid millions for a cameo role in Generations - It was during his wife's tenure that Mbongeni Ngema was paid the now infamous 14 million.
UZuma kulabo abangazi uyisehluleki esidala - kusukela ngo 1994 ubehola imali eshisiwe. He has always been a member of the executive, starting off as a provincial minister of economic development in KwaZulu-Natal in 1994 and today he is president of the country who fly around on Inkwazi sometimes accompanied by other planes. Nithi uyoza akhohlwa kodwa? Mina ngicabanga ukuthi namhla efayo uyokwendlalelwa ngamadoda ambalwa ethuneni njengoNandi, umama wale nkonkoni ewuShaka. UZuma uyabusa ntombi, kudala saqala simthwele and we are still supporting him, taking where Shabir Shakes left off.
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warry
Jy is reg Sin, yours just end up here on Sowetan blog space. Hamba uyophalaza, inyongo iyabulala.Report Abuse
asaowe
when wl these saga end ppl, i knw nxt pres wl do the same eish were r screwed bigtimeReport Abuse
mashima?
As long as we are here in SA citizen we are S???p!!t thinkers. Just imagine with the little salary that I am earning without any benefits I have to do everything for my own, built my own house, pay for my children's school fees, buy buy whatever, the list is endlessSo this top dogs they have benefits and earn a lot of money on the other hands. What is that???
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iPhone4
"which is spearheading the construction - to task"Did they just say SPEAR? Funny how this name seems to follow our president....lol I find it fascinating seriously
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DJ-Winner
Zuma has a beautiful home, I must say. White people must stop this thing of constantly insulting the president and black people. Their DA will never win if they continue with this attitude...Report Abuse
asaowe
relax ppl im funding Zoooooooooomas house.Report Abuse
MorenaWaPolelo
Zumaaaaaaaaa? Zumaaaaaaaaaaaaaa? Zumaaaaaaaaaa????? Ok enough!!!!!!!!! Mr President you say the governmet paid for the fence only???? Well that is a moer of a fence for you alone, and the excuse you use for the house in pretoria is unacceptable if i may ask why the undergroung corridors??? Are gona use them when you sneak???? Eish Polokwane conference has realy cost us maan!!! Now we have to rely on th poor like that grant lady in Orange Farm!!!Report Abuse
2shy2call
Who's funding Nkandla?Nxa kind of a question is that?
Yourselves
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Tokolosh
Who is funding Nkandla you ask? Well I will tell you, it is the poor people living in a shacks waiting for a houses. It is every poor person voting for the current ANC leadership. It is sad and the looting from the poor goes on undisturbed. Whose fault is that??Report Abuse
Seja-Bana
@ sowetan can we have the statistics that was released today, how maney are we, the last time i checked we were 49 million.Report Abuse
Phathuza
Guptas are funding itReport Abuse
MorenaWaPolelo
Seja-BanaI guese we a 60 million if you add Nigerians were are 80 mill if you add Zim Zims we are 110mill if you add the Pakis we are 115 mill if you add Ethiopians we are 120 mill. So we are about 120 milll to be exact!
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!#Sinudeity#!
DJ-Winner - Its not JZ's home, its our home. We paid for it. With the concept of "pay as you use", when will we be able to go on holiday in Nkandla?Report Abuse
Dzhennde-lavho-zuma
The president is talking bullsh!t,what kind of a question is that?Our tax money is funding Nkandla mxai bloody HIV Aids agent!
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asaowe
Is nkandla home a state house?Report Abuse
!#Sinudeity#!
asaowe - No its not a state house.Report Abuse
malemaforpresident
Security for what who can ever think of killing domkop like Shower Head who can not even read properly it is like the same as killing Mangozooothu the two are useless atlist Rolihlahla or Thabo their moral fibre is excellent yeaahhReport Abuse
VENDALIOUS
This thing is a liar johReport Abuse
Arewanga
ANC is corrupt as a whole this money to build Nkandla-ville is from the arms deal.Report Abuse
Goldstone
Let the President Receive what he deserves DA, What committes do you want to initiate now we already pay many committees Hawks, Public Protector, SCOPA, etc stop wasting our money tooReport Abuse
ShadesOfGrey
Who is funding Nkandla?You and I are, that's who.
To see a report of just how the ANC is trying to stall and cover up this latest corruption, take a quick look at the M&G site.
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DJ-Winner
!#Sinudeity#!DJ-Winner - Its not JZ's home, its our home. We paid for it. With the concept of "pay as you use", when will we be able to go on holiday in Nkandla?
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Can I go and drink with my friends at De Klerks house? It was built by my tax and I'm funding his salary and benefits...
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ShadesOfGrey
Yes, let Zuma receive what he is due.His day in court.
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svavava
its tax payers money vele , we all know that deny it all u wantReport Abuse
sibuyim
vote of no confident>Report Abuse
DJ-Winner
sibuyimvote of no confident>
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Well, South Africans are confident in Zuma. The whole nation is behind him...
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TUGLYF
@allwe had all kinds of sick and ridiculouse coruption. but now the question is; what do we do? how do we try to remedy the situation. whats the way forward? who do we vote for?
the previouse rigime stole apples from the tree, but was also wise enough to prune it so that the tree can bear more apples. the current one; is a brainless mafia. it is choping down branches of the tree, in bulks nogal. soon there will be no tree, just a fruitles, leaf-less, branch-less stem in a dry desert.
think long and hard before you cast your next vote.
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Fred55
Zuma opens his mouth and sh1t comes flowing out of it..............wipe your mouth Mr President for life.The nation does not want you but you are forcing yourself on us and your cronies in the ANC and Cosatu are forcing you on us.
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DJ-Winner
People are missing a point here. You madafcukers are quick to comment, but you don't even know what is going on.Look, Zuma extended his own home, using his own money. The department of public works then provided security, which escalated the cost. You are attacking the wrong person. You should be directing your anger to the department of public works...
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DJ-Winnersibuyim
vote of no confident>
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Well, South Africans are confident in Zuma. The whole nation is behind him...
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THE WHOLE NATION OR THE HOLE NATION HA HA HA COME ON!!!!
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Mamlambo
Complaining about Shawara?Ask yourself: who were you voting for in the previous election? ne?
"Every democracy will get the government and the president they deserve"
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Enlightened
"Government came to say that we need security features. They have done things in my building for security"Is this guy president of the government he is speaking about? It is becoming difficult everyday to respect the office of the president when the man who is leading it is intellectually bankrupt?. How long should we endure the intellectual assault from this clown, he is short on detail, he has no grip on levers of power, rely on patronage to run the goverment. What did we do to deserve this man really?
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TUGLYF
Zapiro is a profet. he saw vision of lady justice geting gang banged. thats exactly what has transpired. we all got banged! hard and we never even saw it, until the bastrd climaxed...Report Abuse
Nongoloza24
DJ-WinnerLook, Zuma extended his own home, using his own money. The department of public works then provided security, which escalated the cost. You are attacking the wrong person. You should be directing your anger to the department of public works
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You are right DJ people are quick to critisize...tell where can I find details about how much he spend for the upgrade and how much public works spend for security...also are you saying security costs about R240 million??
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MissBhakajuju
Your Comments are Killing me Guys, LOL... LOL... LOL...@ Vendalious, o ra gore this thing e dazz ka maka...
@malemaforpresident
Security for what who can ever think of killing domkop like Shower Head who can not even read properly ...... LMAO
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Tasto_
Fisrt for R250million we can secure the border fence from Indian Ocean from Mozambique to Zimbabwe up to Namibian border.One time his family was footing the bulk of the bill.Lastly how much does he earn per annum less than 2% of the total cost of these renovations.Liar Liar Liar King Liar !! Hail King Lair !!
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Lehido
The sooner Zuma is taken to task, the soone he will f*k offReport Abuse
Tarantula
DJ Winner, who are you calling madafuckers? Cant you debate without using foul language? Mxim, typical of Zuma supporter ,maybe you inherited stupid genes from imbecile Zuma.Report Abuse
Zabaragast
You built your own house? Fair enough. A fence doesn't cost R200 million. As the prez and since this is dragging your good name through the mud. How about launching an investigation into where R200 million of tax payers money went or where that figure came from?Report Abuse
Tasto_
Who is building the helipad & for what my next question who is gonna buy this Helicopter?Whos is gonna pay for his private pilot maar won't mind if he is gona fly it himself.Who is building the medi-clinic in his homestead with surgical-theatre probably?
Laslty hope this mtoher fcuker has built\upgraded a schools in his homestead which I doubt cause he does not know the value of education!!
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MmaSeshego
We all know who is funding the damn thing... Question should be: Why are we funding it?Report Abuse
T.C.T
This corrupt President failed to comply with a court order regarding 'Spy Tapes'. He must prove to the NATION that he is clean before going to Mangaung,DP KGALEMA wen his partner was accused of wrong doings he asked the Public Protector to investigate clearly that shows how he respect the law"I'm grateful to Kgalema Motlanthe for having stopped Thabo Mbeki's endeavour to have me expelled from ANC," ............i think KM now regret saving this brainless ZOOMA s a.ss
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TUGLYF
we got freedom, we are all free. just that a few elite are more free than the rest of us.we are all equal in the eyes of the law, but then again, theres that few elite that are more equal than the rest of us.
True liberation will only be tasted and experienced by JZ and the gang and their families.
(having the anc in power doesnt mean we have been liberated; go back and read animal farm!). its as clear as that.
Its time like these when we need to be learning of true liberation came about to other places like France. read about the French revolution. read books like "The tale of two cities".
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Serobapipi-
Die topie wa re reipa struu!Report Abuse
Little_Dude
WHO OWNS SOUTH AFRICA????????Report Abuse
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Security measures, so you need 20 extra buildings at 8 mil a pop for security measures, zooommmmeeeer,,, you migh fool your uneducated and s.tupid anc supporters but not the rest of us.Enjoy it while you can, you still have until 2019 when the DA will start to rescue what you are putting to the slumps.
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lutumba
this thing is lying maan,,he only earns a little over 2mill a year but can afford a 200mill house,how is that possible also considering that 4 years ago he was broke and being helped by his terminally ill friend.he surely thinks we are all "dwarfs' as the other comrade put it.Report Abuse
Little_Dude
Serobapipi-Die topie wa re reipa struu!
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jwang, because o roba p!p!????
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BRA-MAFUTHA
Of cause this Shawara head his lying through his rotten stinking teeths. Your are a liar Zuma everyone know that u r using our tax money.Report Abuse
Serobapipi-
malemaforpresidentReshwela one stupid d ick
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Little_Dude
what i'm failling to understand in this vendetta is it Zuma who authorised the release of this monies or Public Works relevant official???Report Abuse
Ma-Bhova
@MGEEZ@Pointman
Just five years ago one of his fiance had to stay with a friend because he could not support her - now he has a R200m compound
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Exactly!!!! So where the heck did he suddenly get so much money, if it is not our tax money???
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This is the same guy that Shabir shaik was paying for school fee's for his children and giving him pocket money, infact how can he make R200mil in 5yrs when his salary is not even above R3mill?
Yadelela le shower-cap. Even a taxi driver (Khulubuse) became a millionair, eish... tax zethu kodwa zityiwa kakubi.
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TarantulaDJ Winner, who are you calling madafuckers? Cant you debate without using foul language? Mxim, typical of Zuma supporter ,maybe you inherited stupid genes from imbecile Zuma.
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Dude, don't waste your breath on DJwinner, he is a troll, there can never be someone as d.umb on earth to give the comments he makes, he just comes to the site to try and tense everyone up.
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CYBORICO
what happened to beeing innocent till proven guilty, thuli is on it and the corrupt public works r being probed for it, so why claim the president is lying when we havent heared anything formal yet, speculation and feelings turned to facts again? Thats SA for u,Report Abuse
Tasto_
Since he is not an alumni of any school even in Nkandla or kwaNxamalala there is no mention of even a chreche in thi wasteful expenditure and his fans expect me to b quiet !!Report Abuse
Little_Dude
CYBORICOwhat happened to beeing innocent till proven guilty, thuli is on it and the corrupt public works r being probed for it, so why claim the president is lying when we havent heared anything formal yet, speculation and feelings turned to facts again? Thats SA for u,
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Good point my fellow blogger. I smell personal hatred from some bloggers here
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CYBORICO
@Dj Winneru r an embassador for black people my man, never follow suit, never do what everyone does, dont join them simply because they are in large numbers, they can still represent a nonsense idea., keep it original bro, many here didnot even read the article, went straight for the comments, hence all the tjatjarag
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Tasto_
@CYBORICO - will u frog march Jacobzuma to court he seem to be allergic to it !!Report Abuse
!#Sinudeity#!
CYBORICO - "Innocent until proven guilty", the 2nd most said thing by ANC. Public works is keeping the information 'secret' from us, using apartheid laws. The contractors have signed off on the development, which is for buildings, not security. The official line from PW, is that R250 million is being spent from government budget (IE, tax money).Who are you trying to fool here?
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CYBORICO
@Sinideitywhat u mean apartheid law? u mean acts regulating security measures for our statemen? well thats SA statutory accept it or ship off, yes it needs ammending for transperency reasons(its all in the article) so now that there is people to disagree with u, u discard the facts and go for the mocking game, hoping all the clueless blogger will still side with u? if u were president will u stay in your current place? No? who would have funded the new safe place? tax payers u said? yep state money u clever soul. just yersteday a cache of weapons was found and u suggest the president should stay in a shack? ha ha ha u can Hate Zuma, thats you right, but dont try to fool us in the process
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CYBORICO - "what u mean apartheid law? u mean acts regulating security measures for our statemen? well thats SA statutory accept it or ship off, yes it needs ammending for transperency reasons"So, the apartheid law is good, but needs amending for transparency? So, in other words, you are contradicting yourself?
"if u were president will u stay in your current place?"
The STATE provides HOUSING for the president. You do know about these right? They are paid for, by government, so that the president doesnt have to stay in his own private residence. You do know this right?
You are only fooling yourself here dude.
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T.C.T
Zuma is clearly trying to delay handing over the transcript of the tapes until the Mangaung Conference is over. nkandla hero is trying to hide his corrupt ways? to hell with his 240m house the day will come wen the law deal with him ntsa engwe le engwe ena le tsatsi la yona i wish this clown o end up in jailReport Abuse
CYBORICO
VENDALIOUSThis thing is a liar joh
were raised in an orphanage bro, u dont sound like u had someone who cared to raise u, u sound like the is a little vendalious boy crying for attention inside u. useem to be looking for attention in all the wrong places bro, and this will go a long way in helping put your l marginalised people on the map neh? wise move bro wise move. wonder what your parents say when they here u speak about the president, not proud i can guess, there is always a potato that start the rot in any bag, maybe u r the rot of your family
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ShadesOfGrey
Cyborico - there are already official residences for the president in Pretoria, Durban and Cape Town. So, why does Zuma have to use our *public* money (you know our tax that's intended for hospitals, roads etc) to build his own *private* palace in Nkandla?Oh yeah, because he is as corrupt as you get. That's why.
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CYBORICO - WTF are you doing? Implying that people who disagree with Zipper wasting government money as being orphans? Dont be a duuumb@ss dude.Report Abuse
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CYBORICO - Why are you and DJ Winner the only dooucheb@gs here defending Zipper?Report Abuse
injendala
look at the other homesteads surrounding Zuma's compound.spot the diference... huge neh? i wonder wat his own ppl say wen they see their money being thuggd by showerhead...the sad thing is that they will still vote for him come the next elections.Report Abuse
Dzel
According to News24++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
New information in documents, shows that improvements to the estate have already cost the taxpayer almost R250m.
According to the documents, the department of public works has since 2009 spent R188m on building work, and paid R54m to consultants.
This brings the costs of the project to R247m. The original budget calculated in 2009 was R23m.
A breakdown of spending on the Nkandla compound, which forms part of the public works department's prestige portfolio, includes
1. R23m for “emergency work”.
2. R121m to builders,
3. R2.4m for bulletproof glass,
4. R9.2m for a fence and
5. a payment of R1.9m to a leading international elevator company.
6. Millions have already been paid to consultants, including architects, surveyors, engineers and project managers.
The presidency said in an earlier statement that the improvements to the compound were a family decision, paid for by the Zuma family.
news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Nkandla-upgrade-costs-soar-to-R247m-20121017
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Please note the above figures come from Public Works official documentation and were paid for by the Department.
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Nwanawamukalaha
How i so wish that cde lekota and other parliamentarians could remove this Zuma thing before mangaung conference to stop all this fuss about leadership continuity supported by the Zuma faction.The man can't answer a single answer on spot and is so vulnerable and is always lost when discussing in burning matters.
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s.cold
NINA NINOMONADO YOU UKUTHI U-HELLEN ZILLE UHLALAPHI?
U TREVOR MANUEL YENA,,NALA UKUBONA UMUNTU ONMYAMA EPHUMELELA
PHO KUNANI UMA AKHE IDLU NGEMALI YAMA-TAX PAYERS,,NIBHEBHEKAPHI NINA
NGOBA ENGU-ZULU SENINENINGA,,NGOBA LEYONDLU ISENKANDLA,,
WHAT ABOUT MINISTERS ABAHLALA EMOOIKLOOF,HAARTEBEESPOORT,SANDTON ECT
YOU LIKE IT OR NOT ZUMA WILL GET I SECOND TERM AND A DEVELOPE LA KUDINGEKA KHONA
UMANDELA WADLA MALINI,UMBEKI YENA?
HAMBANI NIYODLA ATHUVU MHLATHI YENU,,NX
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CYBORICO
@sinudeityu r a not such a c.lever guy u know? there is nowhere where it states that the president is fo.rced to stay in a state house. and how do u propose he will fit his whole family in a state house? someone must sleep on the lawn neh? or the garage? Zuma has circumstances that require him to stay in a bigger house, hence he chose his own, how many state houses for the presidents extended family? a.nger and h.ate make many a once smart man very d.umb
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malemaforpresident
The People Shall Govern!•Every man and woman shall have the right to vote for and to stand as a candidate for all bodies which make laws;
•All people shall be entitled to take part in the administration of the country;
•The rights of the people shall be the same, regardless of race, colour or sex;
•All bodies of minority rule, advisory boards, councils and authorities shall be replaced by democratic organs of self-government.
All National Groups Shall have Equal Rights!
•There shall be equal status in the bodies of state, in the courts and in the schools for all national groups and races;
•All people shall have equal right to use their own languages, and to develop their own folk culture and customs;
•All national groups shall be protected by law against insults to their race and national pride;
•The preaching and practice of national, race or colour discrimination and contempt shall be a punishable crime;
•All apartheid laws and practices shall be set aside.
The People Shall Share in the Country's Wealth!
•The national wealth of our country, the heritage of South Africans, shall be restored to the people;
•The mineral wealth beneath the soil, the Banks and monopoly industry shall be transferred to the ownership of the people as a whole;
•All other industry and trade shall be controlled to assist the wellbeing of the people;
•All people shall have equal rights to trade where they choose, to manufacture and to enter all trades, crafts and professions.
The Land Shall be Shared Among Those Who Work It!
•Restrictions of land ownership on a racial basis shall be ended, and all the land re-divided amongst those who work it to banish famine and land hunger;
•The state shall help the peasants with implements, seed, tractors and dams to save the soil and assist the tillers;
•Freedom of movement shall be guaranteed to all who work on the land;
•All shall have the right to occupy land wherever they choose;
•People shall not be robbed of their cattle, and forced labour and farm prisons shall be abolished.
All Shall be Equal Before the Law!
•No-one shall be imprisoned, deported or restricted without a fair trial;
•No-one shall be condemned by the order of any Government official;
•The courts shall be representative of all the people;
•Imprisonment shall be only for serious crimes against the people, and shall aim at re-education, not vengeance;
•The police force and army shall be open to all on an equal basis and shall be the helpers and protectors of the people;
•All laws which discriminate on grounds of race, colour or belief shall be repealed
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WE HAVE BEEN SOLD OUT
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CYBORICO
!#Sinudeity#!CYBORICO - WTF are you doing? Implying that people who disagree with Zipper wasting government money as being orphans? Dont be a duuumb@ss dude.
we look at it from all angles, our minds r not clouded by hate and anger and it seems we know that the masses r not always right, coz if they were africa will be far by now. many here just conform and folow whoever makes the nicest and loudest sound,
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@Dzhennde-lavho-zuma....ndo dala nga dzina lavho!!!Report Abuse
ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat
Who's funding Nkandla? That is a good question. Because the politicians are ducking and diving, we can oly speculate. President Zuma himself gives two versions. In the first one he says the family built the homsetead. In the second one, he says he built the house himself. And now already we have a problem because the two versions are obviously contradictory. The first version, if the family built the homstead, could it be that Aurora money was involved, considering that Khulubuse Zuma is Zuma's brother (Michael) 's son. The Aurora liquidators have to follow the money.Could Zuma have built the house himself. We also know that Jacob Zuma was struggling to make ends meet before he became president. How can we forget an incident where Jacob Zuma was waiting at Capetown International Airport (with his bodyguards) , out if cash waiting for Schabir Shaik to give him R500. We also know that Msholozi also signed hundreds of cheques which were dishonoured or bounced. We also know that some businesspeople e.g Mr Reddy from KZN was providing loans to Msholozi to build the Nkandla homestead. Some people were saying that Reddy was donating money as a payback to Zuma because he got tenders and also other business with the help of Zuma when the latter was KZN MEC for Economic Affairs.
But we also know that there were allegations of offshore bank accounts related to the arms deal. Accounts in Mauritius and Isle of Man (UK) among others and some held via third parties. There is always a question of whether that money has found its way back into South Africa (assuming that the stories were true). There are relevant bodies ( e.g SARS, Financial Intelligence Centre, The Hawks among others) that can look into these things.
Another allegation is that Public Works is paying for some of the construction in Nkandla. That would mean that Jacob Zuma's private home has been illegally declared a National Key Point without following due process. Even if the house was declared a National Key Point, there are procedures, contraol and caps on expenditure and it would seem in this case the Handbook was tossed out. It is important for Jacob Zuma to come clean on these issues. R240m on Nkandla can build many houses for poor people who stay in informal settlements. This is just not acceptable. An ANC president should be different from some of those African despots who used the Treasury as their piggy bank. This is not how Oliver Tambo, Nelson Mandela and Thabo Mbeki would have done things. This entire project has to be canned.
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MommaC
R200 mil for a fence? Jirrie, what kind of fence is that?Report Abuse
Nwanawamukalaha
s.coldNINA NINOMONA
DO YOU UKUTHI U-HELLEN ZILLE UHLALAPHI?
U TREVOR MANUEL YENA,,NALA UKUBONA UMUNTU ONMYAMA EPHUMELELA
PHO KUNANI UMA AKHE IDLU NGEMALI YAMA-TAX PAYERS,,NIBHEBHEKAPHI NINA
NGOBA ENGU-ZULU SENINENINGA,,NGOBA LEYONDLU ISENKANDLA,,
WHAT ABOUT MINISTERS ABAHLALA EMOOIKLOOF,HAARTEBEESPOORT,SANDTON ECT
YOU LIKE IT OR NOT ZUMA WILL GET I SECOND TERM AND A DEVELOPE LA KUDINGEKA KHONA
UMANDELA WADLA MALINI,UMBEKI YENA?
HAMBANI NIYODLA ATHUVU MHLATHI YENU,,NX
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Zuma is not successful but instead he's busy ra@@@@@@@@@@ping our tax money.
All thos people you are mentioning were or are not doing anything obviuos to the poor man on the ground to see. Because of his hunger for power Zuma thought he can manipulate the public which he won't succedd in doing. The public put him there and they supported by the parliamentarians can remove him democratically without using a coup de tat format.
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ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat
@MommaCR200 mil for a fence? Jirrie, what kind of fence is that?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------R200m for a fence, under normal circumstances no!!! It depends on who is getting the money. You would know that sometimes it costs R1000 for government to procure a pencil which under normal circumstances could seel for no more than R10. In the case of Nkandla all we need is a list of beneficiaries.
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MommaC
Zuma is on ETV at the moment with the census figures.Why do they let that man read?
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Dzel
According to our Constitution a sitting president may be removed from office on the following grounds:Section 89 Removal of President
1. The National Assembly, by a resolution adopted with a supporting vote of at least two thirds of its members, may remove the President from office only on the grounds of ¬
a. a serious violation of the Constitution or the law;
b. serious misconduct; or
c. inability to perform the functions of office.
Now based on the above grounds for impeachment Zuma appears guilty of the following.
1. Abuse of public funds or improper use of public coffers for personal gain
2. Deliberately misleading government and the public regarding the nature and extent of public funds on personal
Both of the above are grounds for impeachment of the President but I am not holding my breath that a vote of no confidence is going to be passed in a parliament dominated by the ANC, very sad indeed.
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!#Sinudeity#!
CYBORICO - Do you have any idea how big the state houses are? They could easily host all of Zippers wives. Most of his kids are out of school now, do you expect us to pay for all of them as well? We already pay R100 million to all of JZ's wives A YEAR."it seems we know that the masses r not always right"
Indeed, the masses gave us JZ as president. Come on dude, if you are not angered by JZ and how he is f***ing South Africa over, then you are ignorant to what is going on in South Africa.
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MommaC
ProgressiveAfricanDemocratTjo, boet, for that kind of price I'd expect the great wall of Chiina around my house! Even with the kickbacks, that is one moooeeerse amount for a flippin FENCE,
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Ayobas
R200+mil, hey some people are living life to the fullest. Former Director General of the Repuplic, Mr Thabo Mbeki, his house was only R8mil but idiots were dissaproving it. That fat boy called Malema said he can build a mension cost R16mil, today here comes apgrading of R250mil. What going on here? Nna I saty in a shack cost only R3,000.00, life is not fair.Report Abuse
NTANDA
In SA there are 150 million people instead of waisting R250 million on that you should just give each SA citizen R1 million uqede ngendlala in SA you will still have R100 million to waste coz this is just the waist of tax payers money esiyisebenzela kanzima!!!Report Abuse
Kone
This man think we are morons like him!............Report Abuse
malemaforpresident
Eish yeah it is like a dream a new born baby at 70? And but why do we allow ourselves to be rulled by a 70 years old just to ask these people are very old and outdated what is he going to do with a bunker at the age of 70 and why is he opposing to step down there is something fishy here Tata Mandela may God bless his sole Allahu Akbar served only one term now we see only curcus i have really lost confidence in the ANC the focus should be on taking care of the poor of the pooorest but they are fighting for positions how will they achieve their strategic goals Nxaa i am lost can someone point the direction SA is going it is like driving on a highway without overhead direction control signalsReport Abuse
swona
if it was countries like Zambia, zuma would walk streight to prison after his term, but here in SA, since he was a president chances r he might enjoy life at Nkandla and look after his cattle!Report Abuse
Msydodo
I still dont understand why his changers were droped, and why he was elected as a president after all those scadals, THERE IS NO SMOKE WITHIOUT FIRE, dis man is corrupt, he enrich him self and his people of Nkandla, MALEMA, HELP PLZZZZZZZZZZZZReport Abuse
Winilen
I love SAns all they do is talk & insult but no action. in isiZulu they say "ifa leziwula lidliwa abahlakaniphile"... Zuma dont care about the insult you throw at him because what he want he get & we pay for it.You(The Educated) talk about him being uneducated, cant read properly he dont care about all that he is the President of the country whether you like or not and he will be elected again for the coming election. All you can do is insult as much as you like but he is taking your money.
We are more than the ANC members & we have the power to remove Zuma.
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Msydodo - "I still dont understand why his changers were droped, and why he was elected as a president after all those scadals"Nobody does, especially seeing as how nobody has seen the evidence that allowed secret deals to be made behind closed doors. Even now, Zipper is refusing to release the evidence.
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Tasto_
@Winilen - I don't get u maar question for u was Zuma deliberatley doing it or was it genuine of him @AFCON draw he had CapeVerde upside down and mind this was beamed around the Continent&World ??Report Abuse
MommaC
MsydodoLOL
Malema put him there to start with so I don't think he is the best candidate to call on for help
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Ratshufi
What a stupid question ...where else will he get money to fund nkandla ...we are paying for itReport Abuse
Winilen
@Tasto_@Winilen - I don't get u maar question for u was Zuma deliberatley doing it or was it genuine of him @AFCON draw he had CapeVerde upside down and mind this was beamed around the Continent&World ??
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Mistakes happen...:)
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Naaiman
This Zuma fellow reckons his two heads give him the capacity to think better than your average citizen with one head. He forgets that a citizen with one head and a well functioning brain is better than him with many brainless heads. Re na le motlholo wa presidente. Thusang!!!Report Abuse
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MsydodoI still dont understand why his changers were droped, and why he was elected as a president after all those scadals, THERE IS NO SMOKE WITHIOUT FIRE, dis man is corrupt, he enrich him self and his people of Nkandla, MALEMA, HELP PLZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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So you want to go from one corrupt and ask the other corrupt to help, the blind leading the blind comes to mind.
The mind boggles.
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mzobhozo
i wish this development was from home town man eish!!!!Report Abuse
paracute
all of you Zuma haters think that should someone come into will be better than any of the previous presidents they are all power hungry and will just come and finish what was started by those who were in power before, never mind the political parties and others motive is to get the power and take us back to the previous era where certain individuals where regarded as better human than anyone else where they were served as Gods, i think we haves that era a long time ago but we still have those who still have wishes to go back there, I know and understand that even these rulers of today still treat us a bit harsh than those who ruled before, and everyone is aiming at a revenge and it is all at our peoples expense.South Africa should have grown bigger than this and should be the most respected country form it's history and how it attained it's democracy and and revolution, for some countries only hear the word democracy but do not know what it looks like. claiming and fighting for ancestors and Heroes won't help if we are not following their foot steps for they would be meaningless.
mark my words!!
no one will ever be good in our eyes until Margarette Thatcher come to SA or until Mangope takes Over for they were known as IRON LAW MASTERS
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Phathuza
We must vote fro Cogress of the People than corrupt ANC Leaders at least it is an alternative better than Anc . Vote for Cope SA PLEASEReport Abuse
Tasto_
@Phathuza - no Lekota is a clown of gigantic proportion is another cartoon character!!Report Abuse
paracute
@PhathuzaMan you are loosing it now, that one is the worst of them all if you have affiliated to COPE You're not gonna cope, so please resign before it's too late my friend
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CYBORICO
@Sinedeityndeed, the masses gave us JZ as president. Come on dude, if you are not angered by JZ and how he is f***ing South Africa over, then you are ignorant to what is going on in South Africa.
my man i have learnt through the years that all the decisions and the utterings I have made while angry have either came back to haunt me or caused irreparable damage and made me a fool in the process, u can learn from those life experiences aswell. the fact that something is wrong up there doesnot mean any criticism u make is right, u can be saying gabage.
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P4T
Kuyi Abuse yabampofu le. Kuyacaca ukuthi iANC yeyabathizeni.Report Abuse
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I'm relocating to Nkandla..Report Abuse
CYBORICO
ProgressiveAfricanDemocratso wena suddenly u r expect enough to know the difference between " my family built the house" and I built my own house) is there actualy a difference? do u have to tell all nobodies that your son built u a house? or will it be enough in many circumstance to just refer it as your house(which will be assumed u built)
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MommaC
PhathuzaCope can't run a conference - how are they going to run a whole country? Do you even know who your leader is yet?
Na. Made that mistake last elections and I'm not making the same mistake twice
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cdek
DJ-WinnerPeople are missing a point here. You madafcukers are quick to comment, but you don't even know what is going on.
Look, Zuma extended his own home, using his own money. The department of public works then provided security, which escalated the cost. You are attacking the wrong person. You should be directing your anger to the department of public works...
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EXCUSE ME!!!! HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK ZUMA EARNS TO BUILT A MULTI MILLION RANDS?????????
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MommaCPhathuza
Cope can't run a conference - how are they going to run a whole country? Do you even know who your leader is yet?
Na. Made that mistake last elections and I'm not making the same mistake twice
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Who is the alternative party then ?because we cant vote for shower man he is liabilty , He is misusing tax payers money , What if he is elected for the second term , Are going to vote for him?
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Smaiza
Only 1600 DA members complains. My President since I and my family voted for ANC, the Government can use our Tax money to upgrade Nkandla and other places.Report Abuse
MommaC
PhathuzaI'm struggling to come to a decision on that at the moment. I have no cooking clue who will get my vote next elections. Not gonna be the showerman though.
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PhathuzaWe must vote fro Cogress of the People than corrupt ANC Leaders at least it is an alternative better than Anc . Vote for Cope SA PLEASE
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Why vote for a weak opposition party when there is already a strong one, we need to get the Votes to a 50/50 basis.
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Smaiza - "My President since I and my family voted for ANC, the Government can use our Tax money to upgrade Nkandla and other places."Your tax money? But OUR tax money is already going to pay your grants.
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SOLUTIONS - Because MommaC is trying to play middleground by pretending that she doesnt like the ANC or the DA :PReport Abuse
MommaC
SinLOL
not pretending - I don't like either of them
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@ MommaCDon't worry.. I'll be launching my own political party.. I'll keep you posted when my rally hits your town soon..
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MommaC
-Cl!ck-:) cool. Now THAT will be a 'party'.
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nicethemba
Scopa concerned about national auditsCape Town - Parliament's public accounts watchdog committee Scopa has voiced concern that the 2011/12 national audit outcomes indicate slow progress by departments towards achieving clean audits by 2014.
"Most departments are in the unqualified [category] with other matters' audit space, thus slowing the progress towards clean audits," Standing Committee on Public Accounts (Scopa) chairperson Themba Godi said on Tuesday
"We have also noticed with concern, the lack of movement in the audit outcomes of the department of public works, despite numerous engagements and attempts by various stakeholders to provide lasting solutions to the department's challenges," he said.
The committee was also concerned that the home affairs department had received a qualified audit opinion, a regression from the previous year's outcomes.
"We are calling for decisive leadership intervention in resolving some of the challenges faced by these departments and others that have acquired undesirable audit outcomes," Godi said.
As part of Scopa's oversight focus, the committee would speak to these departments to seek clarity on the reasons for the regression.
Our major determination in this regard is to ensure that the country efficiently utilises its financial resources in a manner that will ensure the realisation of its developmental objectives."
Keywords - Lindikhaya Mpambani, Servcon, Tokyo Sexwale, housing, bonus, defunked, housing, South Africa, government owned enterprise
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@CYBORICOProgressiveAfricanDemocrat
so wena suddenly u r expect enough to know the difference between " my family built the house" and I built my own house) is there actualy a difference? do u have to tell all nobodies that your son built u a house? or will it be enough in many circumstance to just refer it as your house(which will be assumed u built)
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If you pay attention to detail, you will see that there is actually a difference. The first one says, I did not build this alone, my family was involved. The second one says "I built my own house". The first one could include money from Aurora. The second could include money from the arms deal and the Reddys. That is the difference but you know, we cannot put the old man on the stand. Just by the way, doyou stay in Nkandla or you just go there occassionally to visit. I say this because I see you are very emotional about Nkandla matters. You should let us know.
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child4real
Lets face it ppl,he asked for his machine(mshini wam,mshini wam song that you used to laugh about)You gave it to him,what did you think he was gonna do with it, kill himself and his family, Nah, to kill you with it and that's what he does, You got what you diserve why complain now?
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babyfats
who is funding Nkandla it is U.Report Abuse
ILLUMINATED
FORKED-TONGUE, your advisors are misleading you. You are busy 'digging up your own grave'. You can lie about other things but in this case you should have admitted that WE are funding it and apologize if somehow the upgrade offended us. I do believe most people would forgive you.Psalm 2
002:002 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,
002:003 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
002:011 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
Colossians 4
004:001 Masters, give unto your servants that which is just and equal; knowing that ye also have a Master in heaven.
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abiola
Mr showerman stop misleading us,Report Abuse
knobkirrie
Sinudeity- I look forward to the day your arse wont do any talking, f**king idiotReport Abuse
!#Sinudeity#!
knobkirrie - I aim to please. You aim too please.Report Abuse
Mzabalazo
Our tax money, its obvious, the South African Mobutus are exposed.Report Abuse
BloodieAgent
Who's got the tender for "Nkandla"! heheheee...Report Abuse
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