Education doesn't mean you will be a better leader. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
the mirror does lie, depends on the positioning of the mirror, the angle in which the mirror has a reflection of your image and light, we all know that is there is no light you can't see your image on the mirror clearly....so to conclude on this essay the mirror DOES LIE Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Pointman
I know some Zimbabweans and I know how they are suffering. They cannot wait for Mugabe to die. There will be celebrations in private when he does eventually keel over - not a nice way to go. For SAPS, a Zimbabwe bus is a moving ATM - even if the travel documents are legitimate, they threaten to confiscate the papers if a bribe is not paid - shameless - ubuntu is dead. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Chichi7
I so agree with this article. African leaders are always walking on egg shells and never want to face reality and tell each other the truth let alone face the truth themselves. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
MommaC
The problem is far bigger than Mad Bob. The senile old coot hasn't had anything to do with the running (or should that be ruining) of the country for decades now. His warlords are the problem. It is the well hidden snake in control, not the bumbling old figurehead Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
guiliano
Ibrahim should keep his foundation and I will keep my Zimbabwe. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
oldlady12
The BEE Madam, that is the story the clothing stores tell you, my dear. "No lady, your but.t isn't really that big, it's just the mirrors and lighting in the cubicles" to get you to still buy the article. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
!!!Sinudeity!!!
guiliano - You mean he will keep his millions of dollars and you will keep your poverty. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Shredder
This boy is so cute. Face of innocence. These are the things that make one say "come LORD Jesus". Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Shredder
@warry - Education doesn't mean you will be a better leader.
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Meaning? Don't be shy, say it. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
cornelius
Bravo Mo ! Unfortunately its like water off a duck's back - these losers wil just bumble on - voting for the pr.ck who can make the loudest noise and use the best empty "revolutionary" rhetoric. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
MAWARAWARA
@THEmadame2B-BBEE
the mirror does lie, depends on the positioning of the mirror, the angle in which the mirror has a reflection of your image and light, we all know that is there is no light you can't see your image on the mirror clearly....so to conclude on this essay the mirror DOES
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are you that ugly?mmhh scary Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Voetzek
"education means you are a dumba- dumba"- what kind of meaning is that marujana early in the morning, they gave this guy awards and they also voted for his party then deal with it Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Lehido
...and our foolish fat Julius wants to visit Zim, apparently to learn about politics from Robert, and how he nationalised mines in that country....... Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
lenyora13
That is the problem that is holding us ol... even here where the Prez is concern with looting and and staying out of jail at ol cost. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Dandan
Bad mouthing of Zim must stop, we all know they are from civil war what more do you expect , justified war against colonialists.
Recent stats suggests that Zim is exporting more than they can import , in the last eight months they exported $2,1b while import was $1,5 . This reflect $300b trade surplus with SA. The figures show that August had the highest value of exports amounting to $353.4m, while April had the lowest amounting to $202.1m.
Zim deficit is at $1.61m
Most exports is related to diamonds,nickel Matte,nickel ore,tobacco, platinum, ferro chrome , you blind south africans, all these resources are in abundance in Zim nt in SA.
lets us give a reflection on global trends:
Spain reported a trade deficit equivalent to 1.693 billion EUR in July of 2012, which means its trade deficit fell by 20.9% since July 2011 to July 2012. The United Kingdom reported a trade deficit equivalent to 4.2 Billion GBP in August of 2012. Portugal reported a trade deficit equivalent to 1.142 billion EUR in August of 2012. France reported a trade deficit equivalent to 4.271 billion EUR in July of 2012. Zimbabwe’s $1.61bn is a positive sign considering the fact that it’s a third world country which has been through hell, in as much as people hate this, there is light at the end of the Zim tunnel.
We are telling you hatr.ed in 5yrs to come SA will be beggars of Zim
Dont forget after white farmers were kicked out, the land was owned by 2500 white farmers , after redistribution it was shared amongst 6000 black farmers , annexed in the form of plots in order to accommodate as much as bla.ck farmers . Guess what 2010/11 these farmers made $550m in 2011/12 they made $750m each taking an average of $75k as profit, something which would nt happened if Mugabe didnt kick out wh.ite farmers.
Bla.ck people stop being misled by greedy/selfish/inconsiderate wh.ite people who claim there is nothing can happen without them, believe in yourself you can make it.
These so called investors will take 70% of the profits and the country must share 30% just like it happens in South Africa. I agree with Robert Mugabe on this one because we buy oil with usd; gold with usd; diamond with usd and any other mineral that's produced in Afrca by African people.
And when we fight for better salary, we get shot at!!!
African leaders must follow Mugabe and Gadhaffi, these are REAL leaders Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
!!!Sinudeity!!!
MophemeKoPitori / Dandan - Zimbabwean miners get paid R1,800 a month. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
T.C.T
This article is just pure nonsense cause it pick and chooses certain challenges that are faceing AFRICA as a whole and make it sound as if ZIMBABWE under my HERO (GABISTO) is escalating the situation,but it chooses to neglect the sabotage created by greedy western countries that wanted to loot AFRICAN MINERALS stupid ppl may assume ZIMBABWE is not progressing but in my own opinion it is.land is very important just see how china operates it does not sell its land to nobody but today they are super rich...viva MUGABE viva down with the opresors down. the is no law that state by this certain age you shouldnt be a president weak weak reporting wasting my time with this agent Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Dandan
!!!Sinudeity!!!
MophemeKoPitori / Dandan - Zimbabwean miners get paid R1,800 a month.
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it is in accordance with their cpix, you dont know what you are justifying, shut up Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
!!!Sinudeity!!!
T.C.T - If you cant blame apartheid, you blame the west. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Dandan - "it is in accordance with their cpix, you dont know what you are justifying, shut up"
The CPIX measures interest rates, not salaries.
What I am justifying? You mean miners in Zim just got an increase, so now they earn R1,800 a month. And people here were protesting their R9,000 a month salaries. And yet you are trying to convince us that everything in Zim is awesome. Shuddup :P Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Dandan
T.C.T
dont get distracted by thieves, Mugabe did a wonderful job, it is coming back, read my article above, now they hate Zim because there are no white.s who were stealing all long was land of honey and milk for whit.es today land of poverty Report Abuse
Dandan - But its all good because 6,000 people now have farms. Sorry though for the other 12 million people. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
T.C.T
Sinudeity!!!
its a fact,we cant argue wth facts comrade!!!! western gave MUGABE awards honoured him left right centre but after MUGABE talked about land they distanced themselves and pulled all there investments etc dont blame zim blame the western....someone must be blamed Report Abuse
The problem in Zim is the 'Shonalisation" of the economy. Other tribes like Ndebeles and baKalaka are institutionally sidelined by shonas like Mugabe and Tsvangirai.
Mugabe and Gaddaffi used empowerment policies to pull a veil on people's faces. People are told that they will own farms and mines and yet it is only the Zanu elite that accumulates the wealth at the expense of everyone else. Botswana nationalised their mines decades ago in the 1960s through dialogue and today they own more than 60% of all the mines. EVERy motswana in Botswana gets land as soon as they reach 21years of age and not like Zimbabwe where only shonas and Mugabe's inner circle benefits.
Gadaffi hosted American singers like Nelly Furtado, Beyonce for tens of millions of US dollars for one night shows for his family. Mugabe flies to Singapore, Malaysia, China for medical treatment at the expense of the taxpayers. His kids attend schools and varsities overseas while the ordinary masses risk the Limpopo river to cross into SA. Mugabe, Gadaffi and Malema are Range Rover Revolutionaries. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Limbane
South Africans are bunch of illustrates and the journalist are the main culprits because they do cut and paste from reuter cnn bbc ect.They do not even bother to do a comprehensive research about Zimbabwe, besides what do you expect.That is why they call other Africans in names that are derogatory. They extend this colonial mentality to their children. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
!!!Sinudeity!!!
T.C.T - Yeah, but instead of blaming the west, or the tokoloshe or whatever crazy things you consider as 'fact', blame the man RESPONSIBLE for the clusterf*** that is called Zimbabwe.
What is it with Africans that cant face reality and blame those responsible? But would rather blame external forces for their ills. Take some responsibility for your d@mn self man. Report Abuse
2yrs back you gave the same number even today,something is not right along your numbers pls go back and do some research again,,,you know i like you so much but cant wait and see u embarrasing urslf lyk this
DANDAN
you are 100% correct the reson y they dont like MUGABE is bcos he say NO NO NO to the imperialists. We dont want leaders who will always say yes MENEER YES MENEER just check AFRICAN leaders who are hated and ask urself y are they being hated...is all about MINERALS Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Dandan
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Must I give you lessons:
Inflation is a rise in prices caused by an increase in money supply or demand. The South African Reserve Bank uses the Consumer Prices (CPI) and Consumer Price Index (CPIX) to determine the current inflation rate.
When negotiating for salary increases, wage demands are linked to inflation. Therefore the rate of inflation is putting downward pressure on wage settlements. Employers look to benchmark increases against the current low levels of inflation and expected inflation. Also, the Reserve Bank wants wage agreements to be forward-looking or to reflect the rate of inflation that is expected to prevail for the duration of the agreement.
CPI
Consumer Prices is based on the cost of a basket of necessities consumers are likely to buy per month.
blahblahblahblahblah, Dandan - But its all good because 6,000 people now have farms. Sorry though for the other 12 million people.
when the land was owned by 2500 thieves nobody knew there are 12m zims, kwakwakwakwa , I love my whit.es make me laugh Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Dandan - And you would also know that CPIX is a South African concept :P
And due to inflation in Zimbabwe, the cost of food and petrol is skyhigh. Which doesnt sit well with your "Income is determined by cost of goods" argument.
Anyways, in the "land of milk and honey", the miners earn 4x LESS than our protesting miners. And they have to pay 4x more for basic foodstuff. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Dandan - "I love my whit.es make me laugh"
I love it when my blacks try to talk economy :P Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Dandan - "when the land was owned by 2500 thieves nobody knew there are 12m zims"
And unemployment before expropriation was less than 50%, now its sitting at 95%. Seems that those 2,500 'thieves' employed more than half of the country. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Limbane
Blake you must study realpolitik stop hallucinating. South Africa is even worse, it a tenderised state Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Blake
Mugabe murdered more than 50 000 black people in Matebeleland because they were Ndebeles and continues to sidleline them economically and therefore to call him a revolutionary is being naive. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Dandan
T.C.T
I suspect thats what happened with zuma when he was invted by Queen, what more do you expect Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Dandan
Limbane
South Africans are bunch of illustrates and the journalist are the main culprits because they do cut ..................."
look at those reporters mainly w.hites , when a blac.k reporter writes his/her article is changed by senior whit.e reporter , unless we kick out all these nonsensical people Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Limbane
We export gold like Australia but their workers are earning 10times than our brothers here in Africa, at least Zimbabwe they own the land. South Africans own Jika Majika. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Limbane - Zimbabweans dont own the land. They lease it from Bob for a couple of years. Afterwards it goes back to Bob. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
T.C.T
Dandan
eish wen you talk about that one (zuma) you give me a headach my blood just boils that one is just clueless and confused all he know is dancing and jiving....
Sinuidity
Is it wrong to take from the rich who took land illegaly and give to the poor who originate de? Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
!!!Sinudeity!!!
T.C.T - You do know that Zimbabwe was repaid for the land right? The lancaster agreement, which ended up going straight into Bobs pockets. And no, the land wasnt taken illegally. Plenty of cases going on against Zimbabwe of people who bought land, and then had it repossessed.
Come on dude, you are not this ignorant. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Dandan
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Limbane - Zimbabweans dont own the land. They lease it from Bob for a couple of years. Afterwards it goes back to Bob.
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this is what should happen in SA specifically land acquired pre94 , and it should be declared null and void, they must reapply Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Dandan - But the farmers paid the previous government for the land. Unless of course you are going to repay them. Because their money was used to fund programs that you are still using today. Power plants built by apartheid government, schools, hospitals etc.
Sorry boetie, k@k en betaal, die wet van Transvaal. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
DA-DBN-GUY
SOUTH AFRICA SHOULD BE SUCCESSFUL BUT FOR THE anc Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Moeshe
Dandan
!!!Sinudeity!!!
get a room already guys please, Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Limbane
Blake I wonder where do you get those stats, what is surprising, reactionary people like you always throw the seeds of division amongst Africans. The history of South Africa is that the indigenous their land is stolen that is why they live in abject poverty. Whether Mugabe gave land to Zanu members or not, that is not the issue. What remains they are indigenous of that country. To educate you, Zanu and Zapu became one party, Joshua Nkomo and Mugabe united the Zimbabweans Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Dandan
!!!Sinudeity!!!
to avoid the situation happened in Zim where some of you left empty handed the proposal Im referring to is win-win whi.te farmers who got land pre94 must reapply under democratic dispnsation Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Limbane
Sinudeity you read all that junk from the west, or you have a hatred of black people when they progress by taking what is rightfully theirs? Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
T.C.T
!!!Sinudeity!!!
What you dont understand is the intentions of the imperialists regarding the land,and the resons why MR MUGABE is suggesting to the west,i admire a person who stand by his morals and beliefs for the sake of accuracy lets not assume things that wer not proven, bottom line is proven facts suggest otherwise frm what you claimed,if possible with you can our argument be within laws.cause you just comeup with irrelevent contents that are out of this discussion to sue wat ever agenda u may think of... Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Dandan - There is enough land for everyone. Government alone owns 30% of all land. They should start leasing that. For now, our food security is relying on the hands of our farmers. Wether you like the fact that they are white or not.
Did you pay for your farm by the way? Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Limbane - "or you have a hatred of black people when they progress by taking what is rightfully theirs?"
What progress? 95% unemployment isnt progress. Over a million refugees fleeing to neighbouring countries isnt progress. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
!!!Sinudeity!!!
T.C.T - "Imperialists"
LOL, come on dude, get some worthy arguments instead of the tokoloshe argument.
"lets not assume things that wer not proven"
Like the Matabele massacre that you keep denying? Why do you add so many 'it is fact' and 'proven' in your sentences, but keep on denying actual fact while making up stories as you go along?
Bob doesnt stand by his morals and his beliefs. He robbed the people of Zim. He like gaddafi. Nothing but a common thief on grand scales. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
T.C.T
African leaders musnt let western imparialists states to contunue with their efforts to undermine AFRICA or ZIMBABWE sovereigty,this mass media that is busy stoking the flames must be controlled or destroyed Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Dandan
!!!Sinudeity!!!
mine is on communal land, provided we are a clan , Im more concern because I read lot on farmers weekly about bla.ck emerging farmers struggling to get land , its so painfully to read about bla.cks who have interest on farming struggling to get land, instead of government to repposses the land of pre94 and lease it so every body have equall share
farming is very huge business, I find it very strange that farmers are not covered on Forbes Mags, when bla.cks want to farm they get intimidated by whi.tes farmers in order to stay away from farming , easy pissy , become a millionaire over night. I once visited Karan Beef that guy is billionaire, Sekal in Pongola billionaire , in Cape Ruppert is a billionaire in grapevine, Roux Shabangu billionaire from nowhere in farming Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
T.C.T
!!!Sinudeity!!!
its unfortunate that you only care about the beneficial of the minority when MUGABE cares about AFRICA.face it ,west is not concerned about human rights and the well being of AFRICANS. their biggest concern is to protect the status quo of white land control in AFRICA.All this commotion from western media over ZIMBABWE is an orchestrated effort to remove the obstacle to progression which is MUGABE, just like they did with GADDAFI,BIN LADEN,SADAM etc Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Limbane
Colonialist in South Africa killed and wiped a clan in western Cape when they arrived and continued to murder black people in this country. They humiliated our forefathers in the mines by cleaning them with a hosepipe. Continued to bang our doors in the middle of the night and our parents were also humiliated by being woken naked. So Sinudeity these wounds are still fresh Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
T.C.T
Dandan and Limbane
cadres dont take this young man ( SINUDEITY) seriously he is still in shock how AFRICANS survived those brutall killings commited by his own ppl..we still remember clearly wen U.S government said it wants to see MUGABE removed from power and it is working with the opposition party to bring about change of admin,..MANDELA asked why western interfere with AFRICAN matters wer else AFRICA dont disturb them in there issues... the only way we can defeat this ppl is by regulating and amending laws that favours us Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
DA-DBN-GUY
T.C.T
!!!Sinudeity!!!
its unfortunate that you only care about the beneficial of the minority when MUGABE cares about AFRICA.face it ,west is not concerned about human rights and the well being of AFRICANS. their biggest concern is to protect the status quo of white land control in AFRICA.All this commotion from western media over ZIMBABWE is an orchestrated effort to remove the obstacle to progression which is MUGABE, just like they did with GADDAFI,BIN LADEN,SADAM etc
Do you actually believe the rubbish you write? He imprisons people who have different views to him, opposition party members, cut off food supplies to villages that arent zanu-fu, lives in luxury while his country is dying. Lets not talk about the bl00d diamonds of zimbobwe. You do know porogression means going forward and NOT backwards. Zim once the bread basket of Africa is now a basket case. All the Zim refugees in SA is testiment to that. But you choose to believe Bob over the media and refugees. Why not take a trip to Zim and enlighten yourself Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Rocksteady
Ladies and Gents,
Zimbabwe is rising and it will be back as the bread basket of Africa that it once was. For every revolution there is strife to go with it. If a revolution followed a certain order then will it be termed a revolution. We should be allowed to make mistakes and sort them out as we are doing. Mugabe has various accolades of good governance from the very people who ridicule him today. That alone tells a story-dance to the west or else face a western sponsored regime change.
Education - we all agree Bob did a stellar job there. Land redistribution, the same and even crime control and provided a good stable bedrock for families to thrive and not the now fashionable single parent households.
Gukurahundi - this was a bad time in our politics where Shonas could not venture into the Matebeleland as they would be killed and then Bob setteld that brutally by ravaging the Ndebeles using the now notorius 5th Brigade trained in North Korea. It was a bad one but it later led to peace and stability. Ndebeles were included and are still a major part of the Zim politics and represent way more in govt than their 15% proportion in the population.
We will go ahead with getting 51% of all production in Zim to be owned by Zimbabweans. The British did it when they got the Japanese out. As late as 2003 the Scots did it in their farms. Botswana has the same model so why not Zim. we have most of the minerals in abundance in the Great Dyke which runs across the diameter of Zim. We have natural gas also and possibly oil.
We even have one of the best trained armies in the world. Education does not make good leaders but it lays the bedrock for such to be bred. The good leaders even here in SA were the educated ones of yesteryear like the Mbekis, ORT, Steve Biko, Madiba, Joel Netshitengzhe, Trevor Mauel, The Luthulis. And Africa at large we have had the Kwames of Ghana, Lumumba of DRC, Nujoma of Namibia, Pohamba of Namibia. Kaunda, Nyerere of Kenya, Kenyatta of Kenya, Keitumile Masire of Bots. In Zim there were a lot I know but that is maybe because I am Zimbo.
If we had Ibrahims as leaders we would all be bending over for the white man to pleasure himself. The British and their gay gangsters!!!
I will keep my Zimbabwe. Fcuk u very much!!!
We say A'luta continua. We see prosperity yonder comrades. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
DA-DBN-GUY
Rocksteady
ZANU-FU troll! Go and talk shyte to your countrymen that have run to SA and see how they will respond to your tripe. Pls keep your Zim fukk you very much Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
T.C.T
DA-DBN-GUY
the only rubbish im sensing is the one you wrote cause is all speculations that is fed by west media to push there own negative agenda to fool idiots like you!! selective media cant make ppl blv anything they give...u still have lot to learn boy! Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
DA-DBN-GUY
T.C.T
DA-DBN-GUY
the only rubbish im sensing is the one you wrote cause is all speculations that is fed by west media to push there own negative agenda to fool idiots like you!! selective media cant make ppl blv anything they give...u still have lot to learn boy!
So then enlighten me as to why there as so many Zim refugees in SA ijit? You rather believe a DICKTATOR than the media from Zim. You have to be un brainwashed but I guess you are ADVANCED IN AGE SO ITS TOO LATE FOR YOU. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
T.C.T
Rocksteady
my brother from another mother we share the same mental feeeling i love MUGABE he dont begg to be admired by the enemies and he knows his enemies ASK yourself why MBEKI and MANDELA never wanted to interfere with his style of ruling?they knew wat the intention of this imperialists is?
weak and lazy ppl wont even try to understand him but in my eyes ZIM is progressing more than SOUTH AFRICA the issue of land will benefit ppl after 10,20,yrs that is okey but bottom line is our ppl control there own land not this alliens from EUROPE OR AMERICA Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
DA-DBN-GUY
T.C.T
And for the record i am speaking from experience and not just media reports. I am from Zim originally so I know what i am talking about. I still have friends and family who cannot get out bcos they cant afford to. Most have to do their grocery shopping in SA and stock up for months at a time. So take your Africanised brainwashed myopic brain and see for yourself. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Rocksteady
DBN Guy,
You are so colonised bro. There a a lot of Indians here and Nigerians and as you rightly point out Zimbos. Does that mean where they come from it is bad. Maybe in the beginning yes but Nigeria is fast overtaking SA as the biggest economy in Africa but the Nigerians are still here. India will surpass US as a economy in the near future but the Indians are still pouring here. Why?
SA blacks are not utilising their opportunities so we come we set up shop and we take back home. The time you burn our stuff we take off and go home where the revolution still firmly places us in control of our resources. In SA you are tenderising(pun intended) the economy for others to come and take. Give the tender to incompetent cadre x and then x inevitably fails and goes bankrupt and y(white boy) comes who does not want x as partner but z(Zimbo) and we do the business. If you think I lie check who heads MTN , Zimbo, GIBS-another Zimbo, Mail and Guardian-extra Zimbo, The black executives in the banks there and ICT -Zimbos. Do you know any company that has no Zimbo at least at management level. Where are they taking the money they earn. Are you as South Africans able to do that in other countries. The Sas who are doing that are white who are working in property development in Qatar, Mauritius and the like. How do I know - my boys are up ther as senior managers and partners! Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Hehehe, anyways, I can see the fanboys here are ignorant and stupid. No amount of sense will break through to them. Let them deal with the 95% unemployment. Love how they avoid the issue that the Zim miners only get paid R1,800 a month.
Bob is going to die next year, and then we can all organise Zimbabwe tour parties to go p1ss on his grave. Next tour on schedule for December to Libya, to go p1ss on the grave of gaddafi :P Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
T.C.T
DA-DBN-GUY
Shame poor soul,let me remind you that each country and continent around the world is faced with the similar situation,blacks,brown etc it is only whites who are so relaxed!why?PERHEPS they are the cause of the problem in the world and they created all this troubles we are facing....by trying to deal with one by one problems is not solving anythng.however what MUGABE is saying is some amongst us who are leaning a lot against the whites,If we lean on these monsters and fail to see that we are being USED,then we are all stupid..hence he make sure blacks in ZIM dont rely on those enemies rather enemies rely on blacks......you cant call black ppl refugees in there own land...wh.ites are the refugees Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Rocksteady
Why are we able to do it? Complements of Bob. DBN guy you may be a Ndebele Zim guy. You probably hate bob for Gukurahundi but on average your folks there in Zim do not live in a Mkhukhu. If they do not afford to come here they are probably not educated. Even theose uneducated are buying houses and stuff as gold claims and farms were allocated to everyone who had the sense to indulge. Flea markets e.t.c were given out. There is food available everywhere in shops at approximately the same prices as in SA so I would not know why your folks buy from here except maybe a high affinity to cross the border.
My man in Zim people do things for themselves and it is the mentality we have been taught since we were young. If your faolk can't do anything for themselves I would be damned if they would get a farm to work on. They will probably sell it anyway and go back to gvt for handouts.
Even where you are in Durbs do they have equal opportunities there bro? Not so but those that do are doing and succeeding whilst others are shooting each other in Kwa-Mashu. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
!!!Sinudeity!!!
T.C.T - So, you are calling white people monsters?
And this is what fuels your entire debate. We can see the colour of your politics, and your heroes. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Sipho2001
SA will be a Zimbabwe in 10 years time if the ANC stay in pwer. Malema will be living in a palace in Sandton. However he will need a bore hole at there will be no running water... oh and a generator for electricity so he can watch DSTV on hios flat screen. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
!!!Sinudeity!!!
T.C.T - The irony is that you dont see the millions of black people being screwed in the background. All you can think about is taking your fight to the whites, at the cost of your brothers and sisters. Collateral damage? Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
T.C.T
DA-DBN-GUY
is it?but wer excatly in ZIM? i dont have time fo lies boy be specific with wer u r from..to add on wat Rocksteady said white ppl also did the same,at the first place why did you come in AFRICA? Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
T.C.T
!!!Sinudeity!!!
T.C.T - So, you are calling white people monsters?
And this is what fuels your entire debate. We can see the colour of your politics, and your heroes.
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NO IM REFERING TO THERE ACTIONS AND SYSTEMS not COLOR my brother...sorry for that Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
T.C.T
Sinudeity
my brother Sinuideity what problem do you have with ZIMBABWE and its leader?ada than selective media that have negative agenda? Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Rocksteady
Sinudeity
Those 95% unemployed have more money than the 5% employed. Check how many cars pass the Durban port destined for Zim. Do you think R1800(the employed miners u refer to) a month will buy cars. No bro. The so called unemployed are buying the cars because they are doing business which do not require them to have a boss. The ones that work are working 95% of the time to use the office facilities to run their own enterprises.
They are actually richer that you Sinie boy! You want a white boy to come on tv and say Sa has the best constitution and you are happy about your citizenry! Best for who? Best becuae it protects the white man from losing 'his' mine or 'his' farm that he stole from your grandfather?
I wonder what Biko would say to you after he died for your economic emancpation and he hears Sinie boy vouching for his own dispossession in favour of some document which pts him at a disadvantage.
I have always asked myself who came up with such a document!
It is like the Northern Cape where they were burning school and stuff and stopping kids from going to school. A few of the kidz drive Amarok from payout given by the mine in the area - they will praise the white man for his generosity. After that Amarok breaks down what next! Your Amarok(country) has broken down what next Sinie after you allowed the white man to protect himself with the constitution! One of these days you will tear tha paper I tell you. If only I could be there to ask Sinie boy for his opinion then!
I am out for a while. Check you guys later. But Sinudiety please study African history! you may know why most of your folks still live in the hell holes of the economy in any part of the world really. After that I will help you apply for Zim citizenship and maybe organise a farm for you! It is much better to own those things my bro!
Some politicians have more than one farm. Mugabe had a house built at the states expense which is very good and big. Nkandla type but if you ask me he should have it.
The wife shops yes like any other but not to that tune
Farms lost production for a while the govt supplied inputs and machinery now they are almost 60% of what they used to be and improving!
Rocksteady-
You think it's good that taxes are used to build mansions for leaders?
60%.... that means that these farms are probably all unprofitable still.
I read an article that Graxe was found with half a million dollars in her hand back while shopping in Singapore...
Finally... One last questions... do you believe that mugabe is still able to do a good job now that he is 90 years old and falls asleep duting state visits and speeches? Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
T.C.T
Sipho200
just saw ur qtions and im unable to answer them but glad relevent person from ZIM answered them perfectly,what MUGABE said is young generation should learn from old generation and i have no doubt that majority and capable young ppl from ZIM SHARE the same mental feeling with MUGABE remember advisors are available, age is just a number dnt make it a big issue Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
tpaz
The truth is Zim is on the upward mend while RSA is going rock bottom..... Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Rocksteady
How else will you build the house for the president except from taxes. Everytime a new president sits in the states they renovate the white house to the new occupant's tastes at the tax payer's expense.
that was a wrong report. Who found her? She is a first lady and she will go shopping with her security detail. The Singapore authorities would know where she is and also provide security so who 'found' her with half a million. Even you Sipho should have deduced that that was a false report.
You slept through some of your lectures but you still passed didn't you Sipho, and possibly some other boring movies? I know I did sleep in some. These summits and stuff are boring sometime. If you google you will see various heads of state asleep in some or the other even Angela Merkel had the misfortune of being taken out by slumber in one.
MALEMA said “We are not a generation of mini-skirts. We are a generation that continues with the struggle of President [Robert] Mugabe, of President [Nelson] Mandela.”
T.C.T - You are a generation of mini skirts. A generation of uneducated, lazy social grant reliant f@t@sses. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
T.C.T
!!!Sinudeity!!!
kikikiki but im responding to educated ppl like you,perheps u can guide or tell me to what extend or level am i uneducated? blame it on greedy western Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
The-Vince
As far as I know, Zimbabwe is becoming better and iprovement is on the rise in that country, and I got this confirmation from Zimbos themselves they are friends of mine, yes after the land grab and all, production stopped for while as planning and redistrubution had to be done, and look now it's getting back to being the power house of Africa like it used to, Soon more SA xenophobic dummies will be fleeing to Zim for opportunities. finaly Zim got its financial immancipation that was once channelled to only a few of certain color.
and when it comes to education Zim people are the most educated so far, those people are intelligent, their IQ is far greater than that of South Africans, Mzansi youth, totoying for free marks and pass with 30% like what da f.u.ck. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
amaBok
Now this man Mo is what I call a moral leader. Not like the rubbish "leading" Zimbozansi. Cyril the Buffalo Whisperer - Tokyo the wannabe Donald T - Zuma Shabbies bagman - Failema and Floored the dimpopo fekwits - Mugbeki the Aids Monster - Winnie the Stompie Slayer on and on and on. This lot haibo you could use them as a rogues gallery depicting selfishness, stupidity, hatred and greed. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
T.C.T
aluta continue comrades down with this greedy ka.ks phambili PRES MUGABE this clown called zuma can learn so much from u Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
KeRataBasadi
Rocksteady
I think you should know Sinie Boy is white.... Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Rocksteady
KeRataBasadi
Now I see why Sinie boy was taking that stance...
The-Vince is the man though! Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
MommaC
Yes, Zim has improved since Moggy Morgan was included in the government and Gonzo from the muppetts stopped printing money like toiilet paper. That doesn't mean that it is doing well or that they aren't going to need those damn 'western imperialists' to feed them again. WFP is currently tendering for suppliers Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Mndende
Our attitude as Africans is sickening. People are poorer destitute after liberation. We settle for mediocrity. Our liberators are looting like there is no tomorrow and I guess we are expected to thank them for liberating us!!! Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Mndende
MommaC you can say that again...We who have Zimbo blood know the truth! DA-DBN-GUY you rock!!! Rhetoric will not help anyone and hating the white man at our own peril is the du.mbest thing ever and if we are called i,mperialists so be it! All the educated Zim folk are plying their trade else.where in the UK, SA etc...Mugabe is no hero. Mo thanks my brother...Let the truth be told..Many people who used to adore Mugabe hat.e him now. Who owns the farms in Zim? Are they not importing maize they used to produce from Zambia and Malawi. Hmmm. Joyce Banda has ordered them to pay the millions of dollars they owe Malawi and they opted for a barter. Zanupf was angry when they saw the names of the farmers they chased out supplying them with maize from Zambia and they were ordered to remove the labels. We have less white farmers and what happened to all the farms? Go to Bronkhorstspruit and you will see big farms which were given to black farmers and they are lying dilapidated!!!!! Is this what we want. Food security is our NUMBER 1 PRIORITY...Redress with commonsense and not out of hatred for white people because the casualties remain us and even if you chase the white farmers who are productive the poor are the ones who will feel the brunt. Is that difficult to understand...My family in Zim have gone past hating the wh.ite man as they feel betrayed by this present regime which threatens and kills anyone who disagrees with them..We must live together.... Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Nqumla
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Oct 16, 2012
Nqumla
Koekemoer
I still stand by my statement below.
This above doesnt tell me anything much. It still doesnt change the fact ur from another continent. I would understand if were Namibia or Bostwana then u'd be AFRICAN. Now ur coing wth all sorts of nonsence because u want SENSE OF BELONGING. Funny enough people like Naas Botha's DNA traced him to EUROPE. Again not so long ago in 19 years ago we had "EUROPEAN ONLY" areas. What did this mean Koekemoer??????
FACT IS EUROPEANS MIGRATED TO AFRICA, AMERICAS, AUSTRALASIA etc.. from EUROPE.
Again Khoisan aren't only found in SA FACT.
Migration also also happened inside EUROPE.
Read
Some whites like going on about the AFRICAN history thinking we dont know their history.
European history
GERMANIC PEOPLE/NORDIC
Germanic tribes migrated from what is now Danmark and Norway region migrated to Germany, Holland,Sweden and Britain(Ireland,Scotland,Wales,Ireland), Luxemborg and Swistzerland.These tribes were the ANGLES,SAXONS,FRANKS etc,,In Britain the 1st people to move to Britain were Romans, then Celts and then Germanic people from European mainland.
CELTIC PEOPLE
Originates from central Europe BLACK SEA area migrated to western Europe to countries like France, Southern Germany,Britain(Ireland,Scotland,Wales,Ireland), Belgium etc..
ROMAN PEOPLE
In this case I wont mention their history since we dont have many people of ROMAN ancestry here.
ALL THESE PEOPLE ABOVE GAVE BIRTH TO MODERN English, Dutch,French,German etc..Then these people moved OUT OF EUROPE and colonised Americas and Africa.
DNA samples of their descendants still traces them back to EUROPE.
EUROPEAN DNA Map
Follow link.
http://www.google.co.za/imgres?hl=en&biw=1366&bih=625&tbm=isch&tbnid=dfV37iuO2cjxXM:&imgrefurl=http://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.com/2008/06/16/mitochondrial-dna-haplotypes-for-dummies/&docid=74ok6jchb3WSNM&imgurl=http://www.le.ac.uk/ge/maj4/EuropeMap%252BTree.jpg&w=4352&h=2726&ei=Bxd9UPDGMILG0QXIoYDIBw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=730&vpy=202&dur=561&hovh=178&hovw=284&tx=209&ty=102&sig=100928002182344928939&page=1&tbnh=138&tbnw=220&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0,i:76
Mndende stop using we BLACKS becos ur WHITE. Jeez SADF soldiers?????
Zim can do better without SANCTIONS. They have the HIGHEST LITURACY RATE in Africa. Their people atleast they have BRAINS than stupid graduates like LINDIWE MAZIBUKO who sees things 2 DIMENSIONAL and then get fed CAKE. Fat ass mama. While Pastor CORRESPONDENCE Maimane (Puppet with Theology degree from a SLUM called SOWETO) is being sent by his HANDLERS up and down. Then they say " Mmusi we want a report back". Banjalo ke abakhula ngemali yeqolo. Bafana nomama babo bathanda imali they dont care how they get it. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Nqumla
Sinud
THIS WAS UR SOCIAL ENGINEERING. This project was a success. Some people from these establishments don't grow taller than a COFFEE TABLE. Thanx to MULNUTRITION????
The word 'township' or 'location' refers to the underdeveloped residential areas located on the outskirts of urban in South Africa that were reserved for Africans who worked in cities that were designated "whitesonly" during the apartheid regime.
It is often mistakenly assumed that townships and residential 'group areas' began with the Apartheid National Party government that was voted into power by the whites-only electorate in 1948, but like all racist laws in South Africa, urban residential segregation has a much longer history.
All South African towns were segregated, and Africans were forced to live on the outskirts of the cities. Ndabeni near Cape Town was the first township to be established,
First township in South Africa
Ndabeni in Cape Town was the first township in South Africa, established in 1902 by the government of the Cape Colony. Not forgeting that the were living all over the around 1850s,
In 1901 there had been an outbreak of bubonic plague in Cape Town. This infectious fever is spread to humans by fleas on rats. Rats on ships docking at the Cape on their way to Europe brought this deadly disease to the southernmost tip of Africa. The bubonic plague took many lives and caused much panic.
The white government at the Cape at the time was looking for an excuse to relocate Africans who were living in central Cape Town. Many of these Africans worked at the docks, and, through no fault of their own, became infected by the plague. The white authorities labelled Africans a health risk and moved them to a new settlement - the first township - called Ndabeni, near Maitland, drawing on the Public Health Act to validate their actions.
Conditions in Ndabeni were totally inadequate, as described by Ciraj Rasool in his A Brief History of South African Townships: "Ndabeni bore the stigma of a plague camp ... with its surrounding fence and street grid with its regular (police) constable patrol. It consisted of five large dormitories, each of which accommodated 500 men. Six hundred and fifteen lean-to corrugated iron huts also housed eight people each. Nobody had privacy, and washing and cooking facilities were inadequate. Huts had no floors and were subject to flooding in winter, and only later were they raised on banks."
Townships like Ndabeni were created to house cheap, unskilled, male African workers. These persons were not allowed to permanently live in Cape Town, but had to return to their 'native reserves' when their labour was no longer needed.
In 1918, a Spanish influenza epidemic broke out in Cape Town, and conditions in Ndabeni were considered problematic. Authorities began to plan Langa location and started forcibly moving people there in 1927.
Langa was developed specifically to house people forcibly removed from other places and to deal with the influx of migrant labourers to urban areas. In 1930, Langa had about 1 500 residents. By the early 1960s there were more than 28 000 residents, of whom 18 500 were living in "bachelor" quarters
People from these establishments above are BAD IN SPORTS ESPECIALLY SOCCER.
Average man here stands at 1,50m to 1,68m hence they cant compete with people from North of Limpopo. They body type is very tiny INFANTILE. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Nqumla
IM GONE FAVELA NEWSPAPER BLOGGS SEE YA'LL TOMORROW.
Kofi Annan wrote an Article about SLUMS like SOWETO. Report Abuse
LOL
Still a fail in history.
The Romans conquered most of Europe at one stage and had kids with the locals. Most white people have at least a smidgen of Roman in them. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Nqumla
Andithanga nqabathengisi eSoweto kaloku bakhula omama babo bephanda ngemizimba. Non Tokyo banalengqondo wathengisa ngoHani emva kok watsha nedlagusha. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Nqumla
I never disputed that hence I posted this DNA sample below.
I said the English,Dutch,Germans etc..are descendants of INDIGENOUS EUROPEANS just like Zulus,Tswanas etc.. are descendants of Khoisan and Bantus.
GOT MY POINT GRANNY???
The colours here show relations between Romans,Celts,Germanics,Slavs etc..
EUROPEAN DNA Map
Follow link.
http://www.google.co.za/imgres?hl=en&biw=1366&bih=625&tbm=isch&tbnid=dfV37iuO2cjxXM:&imgrefurl=http://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.com/2008/06/16/mitochondrial-dna-haplotypes-for-dummies/&docid=74ok6jchb3WSNM&imgurl=http://www.le.ac.uk/ge/maj4/EuropeMap%252BTree.jpg&w=4352&h=2726&ei=Bxd9UPDGMILG0QXIoYDIBw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=730&vpy=202&dur=561&hovh=178&hovw=284&tx=209&ty=102&sig=100928002182344928939&page=1&tbnh=138&tbnw=220&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0,i:76 Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Nqumla
Sinud
Tomomrrow I will be going deep about ENGLISH, DUTCH,GERMAN history.
I knw people Kobus Wiese have GERMAN ancestry hence the name.
Ha ha IM WELL TRAVELLED MY FRIEND.
HISTORY TOMORROW FOR SURE. Come to class. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
MommaC
Nqumla
You may be 'well traveled' but your knowledge of European history is abysmal. There was no country called Germany when the Wiese family came to SA :) Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Mndende
Nqumla sundidika wena....nxa udakiwe ngiyabona ke manje!!! Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Nqumla - "Tomomrrow I will be going deep about ENGLISH, DUTCH,GERMAN history."
But you keep posting the same $h17 every day... Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Mndende
Without sanctions? Hau hle? Its about time Zim proves it can survive kakhle without sanctions by the West besides ke ukhuluma udodi wodwa...Lindiwe is far smarter than you you are nothing but a misera.ble soul...just like your handlers...tjeeerrrrrrrrr. Am sure you never passed one subject eskolweni... Report Abuse
Oct 22, 2012
kolobadibaba
what is happening in zim is an unfortunate scenario, it's time african leaders take action against president robert mugabe. it's no longer about the sovereignty of the republic of zimbabwe but it's about the suffering of the poor people of zimbabwe and zimbabweans in the diaspora. Report Abuse
Oct 27, 2012
mshina
16 Oct 2012
warry
Education doesn't mean you will be a better leader.
SO U THINK A PERSON LIKE MALEMA WOULD BE BETTER ????
A DULL PERSON ALWAYS HAS SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT SOMEONE ............ Report Abuse
Nov 18, 2012
BraSipho
Zimbabweans must be the most patient and stupid people alive.
They allow a political regime to ruin thier country.
So bad that we have to feed them and give them work.
Go well Zim, we will remember you when you are no more. Report Abuse
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warry
Education doesn't mean you will be a better leader.Report Abuse
THEmadame2B-BBEE
the mirror does lie, depends on the positioning of the mirror, the angle in which the mirror has a reflection of your image and light, we all know that is there is no light you can't see your image on the mirror clearly....so to conclude on this essay the mirror DOES LIEReport Abuse
Pointman
I know some Zimbabweans and I know how they are suffering. They cannot wait for Mugabe to die. There will be celebrations in private when he does eventually keel over - not a nice way to go. For SAPS, a Zimbabwe bus is a moving ATM - even if the travel documents are legitimate, they threaten to confiscate the papers if a bribe is not paid - shameless - ubuntu is dead.Report Abuse
Chichi7
I so agree with this article. African leaders are always walking on egg shells and never want to face reality and tell each other the truth let alone face the truth themselves.Report Abuse
MommaC
The problem is far bigger than Mad Bob. The senile old coot hasn't had anything to do with the running (or should that be ruining) of the country for decades now. His warlords are the problem. It is the well hidden snake in control, not the bumbling old figureheadReport Abuse
guiliano
Ibrahim should keep his foundation and I will keep my Zimbabwe.Report Abuse
oldlady12
The BEE Madam, that is the story the clothing stores tell you, my dear. "No lady, your but.t isn't really that big, it's just the mirrors and lighting in the cubicles" to get you to still buy the article.Report Abuse
!!!Sinudeity!!!
guiliano - You mean he will keep his millions of dollars and you will keep your poverty.Report Abuse
Shredder
This boy is so cute. Face of innocence. These are the things that make one say "come LORD Jesus".Report Abuse
Shredder
@warry - Education doesn't mean you will be a better leader.==============================================================
Meaning? Don't be shy, say it.
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cornelius
Bravo Mo ! Unfortunately its like water off a duck's back - these losers wil just bumble on - voting for the pr.ck who can make the loudest noise and use the best empty "revolutionary" rhetoric.Report Abuse
MAWARAWARA
@THEmadame2B-BBEEthe mirror does lie, depends on the positioning of the mirror, the angle in which the mirror has a reflection of your image and light, we all know that is there is no light you can't see your image on the mirror clearly....so to conclude on this essay the mirror DOES
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are you that ugly?mmhh scary
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Voetzek
"education means you are a dumba- dumba"- what kind of meaning is that marujana early in the morning, they gave this guy awards and they also voted for his party then deal with itReport Abuse
Lehido
...and our foolish fat Julius wants to visit Zim, apparently to learn about politics from Robert, and how he nationalised mines in that country.......Report Abuse
lenyora13
That is the problem that is holding us ol... even here where the Prez is concern with looting and and staying out of jail at ol cost.Report Abuse
Dandan
Bad mouthing of Zim must stop, we all know they are from civil war what more do you expect , justified war against colonialists.Recent stats suggests that Zim is exporting more than they can import , in the last eight months they exported $2,1b while import was $1,5 . This reflect $300b trade surplus with SA. The figures show that August had the highest value of exports amounting to $353.4m, while April had the lowest amounting to $202.1m.
Zim deficit is at $1.61m
Most exports is related to diamonds,nickel Matte,nickel ore,tobacco, platinum, ferro chrome , you blind south africans, all these resources are in abundance in Zim nt in SA.
lets us give a reflection on global trends:
Spain reported a trade deficit equivalent to 1.693 billion EUR in July of 2012, which means its trade deficit fell by 20.9% since July 2011 to July 2012. The United Kingdom reported a trade deficit equivalent to 4.2 Billion GBP in August of 2012. Portugal reported a trade deficit equivalent to 1.142 billion EUR in August of 2012. France reported a trade deficit equivalent to 4.271 billion EUR in July of 2012. Zimbabwe’s $1.61bn is a positive sign considering the fact that it’s a third world country which has been through hell, in as much as people hate this, there is light at the end of the Zim tunnel.
We are telling you hatr.ed in 5yrs to come SA will be beggars of Zim
Dont forget after white farmers were kicked out, the land was owned by 2500 white farmers , after redistribution it was shared amongst 6000 black farmers , annexed in the form of plots in order to accommodate as much as bla.ck farmers . Guess what 2010/11 these farmers made $550m in 2011/12 they made $750m each taking an average of $75k as profit, something which would nt happened if Mugabe didnt kick out wh.ite farmers.
Bla.ck people stop being misled by greedy/selfish/inconsiderate wh.ite people who claim there is nothing can happen without them, believe in yourself you can make it.
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MophemeKoPitori
These so called investors will take 70% of the profits and the country must share 30% just like it happens in South Africa. I agree with Robert Mugabe on this one because we buy oil with usd; gold with usd; diamond with usd and any other mineral that's produced in Afrca by African people.And when we fight for better salary, we get shot at!!!
African leaders must follow Mugabe and Gadhaffi, these are REAL leaders
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!!!Sinudeity!!!
MophemeKoPitori / Dandan - Zimbabwean miners get paid R1,800 a month.Report Abuse
T.C.T
This article is just pure nonsense cause it pick and chooses certain challenges that are faceing AFRICA as a whole and make it sound as if ZIMBABWE under my HERO (GABISTO) is escalating the situation,but it chooses to neglect the sabotage created by greedy western countries that wanted to loot AFRICAN MINERALS stupid ppl may assume ZIMBABWE is not progressing but in my own opinion it is.land is very important just see how china operates it does not sell its land to nobody but today they are super rich...viva MUGABE viva down with the opresors down. the is no law that state by this certain age you shouldnt be a president weak weak reporting wasting my time with this agentReport Abuse
Dandan
!!!Sinudeity!!!MophemeKoPitori / Dandan - Zimbabwean miners get paid R1,800 a month.
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it is in accordance with their cpix, you dont know what you are justifying, shut up
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!!!Sinudeity!!!
T.C.T - If you cant blame apartheid, you blame the west.Report Abuse
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Dandan - "it is in accordance with their cpix, you dont know what you are justifying, shut up"The CPIX measures interest rates, not salaries.
What I am justifying? You mean miners in Zim just got an increase, so now they earn R1,800 a month. And people here were protesting their R9,000 a month salaries. And yet you are trying to convince us that everything in Zim is awesome. Shuddup :P
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Dandan
T.C.Tdont get distracted by thieves, Mugabe did a wonderful job, it is coming back, read my article above, now they hate Zim because there are no white.s who were stealing all long was land of honey and milk for whit.es today land of poverty
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!!!Sinudeity!!!
Dandan - 95% unemployment, nice going Mugabe.Report Abuse
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Dandan - But its all good because 6,000 people now have farms. Sorry though for the other 12 million people.Report Abuse
T.C.T
Sinudeity!!!its a fact,we cant argue wth facts comrade!!!! western gave MUGABE awards honoured him left right centre but after MUGABE talked about land they distanced themselves and pulled all there investments etc dont blame zim blame the western....someone must be blamed
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DrunkenMaster
Assassination will do just fine.Report Abuse
Blake
The problem in Zim is the 'Shonalisation" of the economy. Other tribes like Ndebeles and baKalaka are institutionally sidelined by shonas like Mugabe and Tsvangirai.Mugabe and Gaddaffi used empowerment policies to pull a veil on people's faces. People are told that they will own farms and mines and yet it is only the Zanu elite that accumulates the wealth at the expense of everyone else. Botswana nationalised their mines decades ago in the 1960s through dialogue and today they own more than 60% of all the mines. EVERy motswana in Botswana gets land as soon as they reach 21years of age and not like Zimbabwe where only shonas and Mugabe's inner circle benefits.
Gadaffi hosted American singers like Nelly Furtado, Beyonce for tens of millions of US dollars for one night shows for his family. Mugabe flies to Singapore, Malaysia, China for medical treatment at the expense of the taxpayers. His kids attend schools and varsities overseas while the ordinary masses risk the Limpopo river to cross into SA. Mugabe, Gadaffi and Malema are Range Rover Revolutionaries.
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Limbane
South Africans are bunch of illustrates and the journalist are the main culprits because they do cut and paste from reuter cnn bbc ect.They do not even bother to do a comprehensive research about Zimbabwe, besides what do you expect.That is why they call other Africans in names that are derogatory. They extend this colonial mentality to their children.Report Abuse
!!!Sinudeity!!!
T.C.T - Yeah, but instead of blaming the west, or the tokoloshe or whatever crazy things you consider as 'fact', blame the man RESPONSIBLE for the clusterf*** that is called Zimbabwe.What is it with Africans that cant face reality and blame those responsible? But would rather blame external forces for their ills. Take some responsibility for your d@mn self man.
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T.C.T
!!!Sinudeity!!!Dandan - 95% unemployment, nice going Mugabe
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2yrs back you gave the same number even today,something is not right along your numbers pls go back and do some research again,,,you know i like you so much but cant wait and see u embarrasing urslf lyk this
DANDAN
you are 100% correct the reson y they dont like MUGABE is bcos he say NO NO NO to the imperialists. We dont want leaders who will always say yes MENEER YES MENEER just check AFRICAN leaders who are hated and ask urself y are they being hated...is all about MINERALS
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Dandan
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Must I give you lessons:
Inflation is a rise in prices caused by an increase in money supply or demand. The South African Reserve Bank uses the Consumer Prices (CPI) and Consumer Price Index (CPIX) to determine the current inflation rate.
When negotiating for salary increases, wage demands are linked to inflation. Therefore the rate of inflation is putting downward pressure on wage settlements. Employers look to benchmark increases against the current low levels of inflation and expected inflation. Also, the Reserve Bank wants wage agreements to be forward-looking or to reflect the rate of inflation that is expected to prevail for the duration of the agreement.
CPI
Consumer Prices is based on the cost of a basket of necessities consumers are likely to buy per month.
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blahblahblahblahblah, Dandan - But its all good because 6,000 people now have farms. Sorry though for the other 12 million people.
when the land was owned by 2500 thieves nobody knew there are 12m zims, kwakwakwakwa , I love my whit.es make me laugh
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!!!Sinudeity!!!
Dandan - And you would also know that CPIX is a South African concept :PAnd due to inflation in Zimbabwe, the cost of food and petrol is skyhigh. Which doesnt sit well with your "Income is determined by cost of goods" argument.
Anyways, in the "land of milk and honey", the miners earn 4x LESS than our protesting miners. And they have to pay 4x more for basic foodstuff.
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!!!Sinudeity!!!
Dandan - "I love my whit.es make me laugh"I love it when my blacks try to talk economy :P
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!!!Sinudeity!!!
Dandan - "when the land was owned by 2500 thieves nobody knew there are 12m zims"And unemployment before expropriation was less than 50%, now its sitting at 95%. Seems that those 2,500 'thieves' employed more than half of the country.
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Limbane
Blake you must study realpolitik stop hallucinating. South Africa is even worse, it a tenderised stateReport Abuse
Blake
Mugabe murdered more than 50 000 black people in Matebeleland because they were Ndebeles and continues to sidleline them economically and therefore to call him a revolutionary is being naive.Report Abuse
Dandan
T.C.TI suspect thats what happened with zuma when he was invted by Queen, what more do you expect
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Dandan
LimbaneSouth Africans are bunch of illustrates and the journalist are the main culprits because they do cut ..................."
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look at those reporters mainly w.hites , when a blac.k reporter writes his/her article is changed by senior whit.e reporter , unless we kick out all these nonsensical people
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Limbane
We export gold like Australia but their workers are earning 10times than our brothers here in Africa, at least Zimbabwe they own the land. South Africans own Jika Majika.Report Abuse
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Limbane - Zimbabweans dont own the land. They lease it from Bob for a couple of years. Afterwards it goes back to Bob.Report Abuse
T.C.T
Dandaneish wen you talk about that one (zuma) you give me a headach my blood just boils that one is just clueless and confused all he know is dancing and jiving....
Sinuidity
Is it wrong to take from the rich who took land illegaly and give to the poor who originate de?
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!!!Sinudeity!!!
T.C.T - You do know that Zimbabwe was repaid for the land right? The lancaster agreement, which ended up going straight into Bobs pockets. And no, the land wasnt taken illegally. Plenty of cases going on against Zimbabwe of people who bought land, and then had it repossessed.Come on dude, you are not this ignorant.
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Dandan
!!!Sinudeity!!!Limbane - Zimbabweans dont own the land. They lease it from Bob for a couple of years. Afterwards it goes back to Bob.
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this is what should happen in SA specifically land acquired pre94 , and it should be declared null and void, they must reapply
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!!!Sinudeity!!!
Dandan - But the farmers paid the previous government for the land. Unless of course you are going to repay them. Because their money was used to fund programs that you are still using today. Power plants built by apartheid government, schools, hospitals etc.Sorry boetie, k@k en betaal, die wet van Transvaal.
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Dandan!!!Sinudeity!!!
get a room already guys please,
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Limbane
Blake I wonder where do you get those stats, what is surprising, reactionary people like you always throw the seeds of division amongst Africans. The history of South Africa is that the indigenous their land is stolen that is why they live in abject poverty. Whether Mugabe gave land to Zanu members or not, that is not the issue. What remains they are indigenous of that country. To educate you, Zanu and Zapu became one party, Joshua Nkomo and Mugabe united the ZimbabweansReport Abuse
Dandan
!!!Sinudeity!!!to avoid the situation happened in Zim where some of you left empty handed the proposal Im referring to is win-win whi.te farmers who got land pre94 must reapply under democratic dispnsation
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Limbane
Sinudeity you read all that junk from the west, or you have a hatred of black people when they progress by taking what is rightfully theirs?Report Abuse
T.C.T
!!!Sinudeity!!!What you dont understand is the intentions of the imperialists regarding the land,and the resons why MR MUGABE is suggesting to the west,i admire a person who stand by his morals and beliefs for the sake of accuracy lets not assume things that wer not proven, bottom line is proven facts suggest otherwise frm what you claimed,if possible with you can our argument be within laws.cause you just comeup with irrelevent contents that are out of this discussion to sue wat ever agenda u may think of...
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!!!Sinudeity!!!
Dandan - There is enough land for everyone. Government alone owns 30% of all land. They should start leasing that. For now, our food security is relying on the hands of our farmers. Wether you like the fact that they are white or not.Did you pay for your farm by the way?
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!!!Sinudeity!!!
Limbane - "or you have a hatred of black people when they progress by taking what is rightfully theirs?"What progress? 95% unemployment isnt progress. Over a million refugees fleeing to neighbouring countries isnt progress.
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!!!Sinudeity!!!
T.C.T - "Imperialists"LOL, come on dude, get some worthy arguments instead of the tokoloshe argument.
"lets not assume things that wer not proven"
Like the Matabele massacre that you keep denying? Why do you add so many 'it is fact' and 'proven' in your sentences, but keep on denying actual fact while making up stories as you go along?
Bob doesnt stand by his morals and his beliefs. He robbed the people of Zim. He like gaddafi. Nothing but a common thief on grand scales.
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T.C.T
African leaders musnt let western imparialists states to contunue with their efforts to undermine AFRICA or ZIMBABWE sovereigty,this mass media that is busy stoking the flames must be controlled or destroyedReport Abuse
Dandan
!!!Sinudeity!!!mine is on communal land, provided we are a clan , Im more concern because I read lot on farmers weekly about bla.ck emerging farmers struggling to get land , its so painfully to read about bla.cks who have interest on farming struggling to get land, instead of government to repposses the land of pre94 and lease it so every body have equall share
farming is very huge business, I find it very strange that farmers are not covered on Forbes Mags, when bla.cks want to farm they get intimidated by whi.tes farmers in order to stay away from farming , easy pissy , become a millionaire over night. I once visited Karan Beef that guy is billionaire, Sekal in Pongola billionaire , in Cape Ruppert is a billionaire in grapevine, Roux Shabangu billionaire from nowhere in farming
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T.C.T
!!!Sinudeity!!!its unfortunate that you only care about the beneficial of the minority when MUGABE cares about AFRICA.face it ,west is not concerned about human rights and the well being of AFRICANS. their biggest concern is to protect the status quo of white land control in AFRICA.All this commotion from western media over ZIMBABWE is an orchestrated effort to remove the obstacle to progression which is MUGABE, just like they did with GADDAFI,BIN LADEN,SADAM etc
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Limbane
Colonialist in South Africa killed and wiped a clan in western Cape when they arrived and continued to murder black people in this country. They humiliated our forefathers in the mines by cleaning them with a hosepipe. Continued to bang our doors in the middle of the night and our parents were also humiliated by being woken naked. So Sinudeity these wounds are still freshReport Abuse
T.C.T
Dandan and Limbanecadres dont take this young man ( SINUDEITY) seriously he is still in shock how AFRICANS survived those brutall killings commited by his own ppl..we still remember clearly wen U.S government said it wants to see MUGABE removed from power and it is working with the opposition party to bring about change of admin,..MANDELA asked why western interfere with AFRICAN matters wer else AFRICA dont disturb them in there issues... the only way we can defeat this ppl is by regulating and amending laws that favours us
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T.C.T!!!Sinudeity!!!
its unfortunate that you only care about the beneficial of the minority when MUGABE cares about AFRICA.face it ,west is not concerned about human rights and the well being of AFRICANS. their biggest concern is to protect the status quo of white land control in AFRICA.All this commotion from western media over ZIMBABWE is an orchestrated effort to remove the obstacle to progression which is MUGABE, just like they did with GADDAFI,BIN LADEN,SADAM etc
Do you actually believe the rubbish you write? He imprisons people who have different views to him, opposition party members, cut off food supplies to villages that arent zanu-fu, lives in luxury while his country is dying. Lets not talk about the bl00d diamonds of zimbobwe. You do know porogression means going forward and NOT backwards. Zim once the bread basket of Africa is now a basket case. All the Zim refugees in SA is testiment to that. But you choose to believe Bob over the media and refugees. Why not take a trip to Zim and enlighten yourself
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Rocksteady
Ladies and Gents,Zimbabwe is rising and it will be back as the bread basket of Africa that it once was. For every revolution there is strife to go with it. If a revolution followed a certain order then will it be termed a revolution. We should be allowed to make mistakes and sort them out as we are doing. Mugabe has various accolades of good governance from the very people who ridicule him today. That alone tells a story-dance to the west or else face a western sponsored regime change.
Education - we all agree Bob did a stellar job there. Land redistribution, the same and even crime control and provided a good stable bedrock for families to thrive and not the now fashionable single parent households.
Gukurahundi - this was a bad time in our politics where Shonas could not venture into the Matebeleland as they would be killed and then Bob setteld that brutally by ravaging the Ndebeles using the now notorius 5th Brigade trained in North Korea. It was a bad one but it later led to peace and stability. Ndebeles were included and are still a major part of the Zim politics and represent way more in govt than their 15% proportion in the population.
We will go ahead with getting 51% of all production in Zim to be owned by Zimbabweans. The British did it when they got the Japanese out. As late as 2003 the Scots did it in their farms. Botswana has the same model so why not Zim. we have most of the minerals in abundance in the Great Dyke which runs across the diameter of Zim. We have natural gas also and possibly oil.
We even have one of the best trained armies in the world. Education does not make good leaders but it lays the bedrock for such to be bred. The good leaders even here in SA were the educated ones of yesteryear like the Mbekis, ORT, Steve Biko, Madiba, Joel Netshitengzhe, Trevor Mauel, The Luthulis. And Africa at large we have had the Kwames of Ghana, Lumumba of DRC, Nujoma of Namibia, Pohamba of Namibia. Kaunda, Nyerere of Kenya, Kenyatta of Kenya, Keitumile Masire of Bots. In Zim there were a lot I know but that is maybe because I am Zimbo.
If we had Ibrahims as leaders we would all be bending over for the white man to pleasure himself. The British and their gay gangsters!!!
I will keep my Zimbabwe. Fcuk u very much!!!
We say A'luta continua. We see prosperity yonder comrades.
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DA-DBN-GUY
RocksteadyZANU-FU troll! Go and talk shyte to your countrymen that have run to SA and see how they will respond to your tripe. Pls keep your Zim fukk you very much
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T.C.T
DA-DBN-GUYthe only rubbish im sensing is the one you wrote cause is all speculations that is fed by west media to push there own negative agenda to fool idiots like you!! selective media cant make ppl blv anything they give...u still have lot to learn boy!
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T.C.TDA-DBN-GUY
the only rubbish im sensing is the one you wrote cause is all speculations that is fed by west media to push there own negative agenda to fool idiots like you!! selective media cant make ppl blv anything they give...u still have lot to learn boy!
So then enlighten me as to why there as so many Zim refugees in SA ijit? You rather believe a DICKTATOR than the media from Zim. You have to be un brainwashed but I guess you are ADVANCED IN AGE SO ITS TOO LATE FOR YOU.
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T.C.T
Rocksteadymy brother from another mother we share the same mental feeeling i love MUGABE he dont begg to be admired by the enemies and he knows his enemies ASK yourself why MBEKI and MANDELA never wanted to interfere with his style of ruling?they knew wat the intention of this imperialists is?
weak and lazy ppl wont even try to understand him but in my eyes ZIM is progressing more than SOUTH AFRICA the issue of land will benefit ppl after 10,20,yrs that is okey but bottom line is our ppl control there own land not this alliens from EUROPE OR AMERICA
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DA-DBN-GUY
T.C.TAnd for the record i am speaking from experience and not just media reports. I am from Zim originally so I know what i am talking about. I still have friends and family who cannot get out bcos they cant afford to. Most have to do their grocery shopping in SA and stock up for months at a time. So take your Africanised brainwashed myopic brain and see for yourself.
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Rocksteady
DBN Guy,You are so colonised bro. There a a lot of Indians here and Nigerians and as you rightly point out Zimbos. Does that mean where they come from it is bad. Maybe in the beginning yes but Nigeria is fast overtaking SA as the biggest economy in Africa but the Nigerians are still here. India will surpass US as a economy in the near future but the Indians are still pouring here. Why?
SA blacks are not utilising their opportunities so we come we set up shop and we take back home. The time you burn our stuff we take off and go home where the revolution still firmly places us in control of our resources. In SA you are tenderising(pun intended) the economy for others to come and take. Give the tender to incompetent cadre x and then x inevitably fails and goes bankrupt and y(white boy) comes who does not want x as partner but z(Zimbo) and we do the business. If you think I lie check who heads MTN , Zimbo, GIBS-another Zimbo, Mail and Guardian-extra Zimbo, The black executives in the banks there and ICT -Zimbos. Do you know any company that has no Zimbo at least at management level. Where are they taking the money they earn. Are you as South Africans able to do that in other countries. The Sas who are doing that are white who are working in property development in Qatar, Mauritius and the like. How do I know - my boys are up ther as senior managers and partners!
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!!!Sinudeity!!!
Hehehe, anyways, I can see the fanboys here are ignorant and stupid. No amount of sense will break through to them. Let them deal with the 95% unemployment. Love how they avoid the issue that the Zim miners only get paid R1,800 a month.Bob is going to die next year, and then we can all organise Zimbabwe tour parties to go p1ss on his grave. Next tour on schedule for December to Libya, to go p1ss on the grave of gaddafi :P
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T.C.T
DA-DBN-GUYShame poor soul,let me remind you that each country and continent around the world is faced with the similar situation,blacks,brown etc it is only whites who are so relaxed!why?PERHEPS they are the cause of the problem in the world and they created all this troubles we are facing....by trying to deal with one by one problems is not solving anythng.however what MUGABE is saying is some amongst us who are leaning a lot against the whites,If we lean on these monsters and fail to see that we are being USED,then we are all stupid..hence he make sure blacks in ZIM dont rely on those enemies rather enemies rely on blacks......you cant call black ppl refugees in there own land...wh.ites are the refugees
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Rocksteady
Why are we able to do it? Complements of Bob. DBN guy you may be a Ndebele Zim guy. You probably hate bob for Gukurahundi but on average your folks there in Zim do not live in a Mkhukhu. If they do not afford to come here they are probably not educated. Even theose uneducated are buying houses and stuff as gold claims and farms were allocated to everyone who had the sense to indulge. Flea markets e.t.c were given out. There is food available everywhere in shops at approximately the same prices as in SA so I would not know why your folks buy from here except maybe a high affinity to cross the border.My man in Zim people do things for themselves and it is the mentality we have been taught since we were young. If your faolk can't do anything for themselves I would be damned if they would get a farm to work on. They will probably sell it anyway and go back to gvt for handouts.
Even where you are in Durbs do they have equal opportunities there bro? Not so but those that do are doing and succeeding whilst others are shooting each other in Kwa-Mashu.
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!!!Sinudeity!!!
T.C.T - So, you are calling white people monsters?And this is what fuels your entire debate. We can see the colour of your politics, and your heroes.
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Sipho2001
SA will be a Zimbabwe in 10 years time if the ANC stay in pwer. Malema will be living in a palace in Sandton. However he will need a bore hole at there will be no running water... oh and a generator for electricity so he can watch DSTV on hios flat screen.Report Abuse
!!!Sinudeity!!!
T.C.T - The irony is that you dont see the millions of black people being screwed in the background. All you can think about is taking your fight to the whites, at the cost of your brothers and sisters. Collateral damage?Report Abuse
T.C.T
DA-DBN-GUYis it?but wer excatly in ZIM? i dont have time fo lies boy be specific with wer u r from..to add on wat Rocksteady said white ppl also did the same,at the first place why did you come in AFRICA?
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T.C.T
!!!Sinudeity!!!T.C.T - So, you are calling white people monsters?
And this is what fuels your entire debate. We can see the colour of your politics, and your heroes.
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NO IM REFERING TO THERE ACTIONS AND SYSTEMS not COLOR my brother...sorry for that
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T.C.T
Sinudeitymy brother Sinuideity what problem do you have with ZIMBABWE and its leader?ada than selective media that have negative agenda?
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Rocksteady
SinudeityThose 95% unemployed have more money than the 5% employed. Check how many cars pass the Durban port destined for Zim. Do you think R1800(the employed miners u refer to) a month will buy cars. No bro. The so called unemployed are buying the cars because they are doing business which do not require them to have a boss. The ones that work are working 95% of the time to use the office facilities to run their own enterprises.
They are actually richer that you Sinie boy! You want a white boy to come on tv and say Sa has the best constitution and you are happy about your citizenry! Best for who? Best becuae it protects the white man from losing 'his' mine or 'his' farm that he stole from your grandfather?
I wonder what Biko would say to you after he died for your economic emancpation and he hears Sinie boy vouching for his own dispossession in favour of some document which pts him at a disadvantage.
I have always asked myself who came up with such a document!
It is like the Northern Cape where they were burning school and stuff and stopping kids from going to school. A few of the kidz drive Amarok from payout given by the mine in the area - they will praise the white man for his generosity. After that Amarok breaks down what next! Your Amarok(country) has broken down what next Sinie after you allowed the white man to protect himself with the constitution! One of these days you will tear tha paper I tell you. If only I could be there to ask Sinie boy for his opinion then!
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Sipho2001
T.C.T please answer some questions for me....Is it true that most farms claimed in Zim have stopped being productive?
Most of the land claimed was done so by the top Zanu politicians?
Mugabe lives in a palace?
Mugabe's wife goes on shopping trips to Singapore and spends $1000 000m shopping in an afternoon?
Thanks
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Rocksteady
I am out for a while. Check you guys later. But Sinudiety please study African history! you may know why most of your folks still live in the hell holes of the economy in any part of the world really. After that I will help you apply for Zim citizenship and maybe organise a farm for you! It is much better to own those things my bro!Later
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Rocksteady
Sipho2001Just saw your questions. The answer is no to all!
Some politicians have more than one farm. Mugabe had a house built at the states expense which is very good and big. Nkandla type but if you ask me he should have it.
The wife shops yes like any other but not to that tune
Farms lost production for a while the govt supplied inputs and machinery now they are almost 60% of what they used to be and improving!
Let me go out now!
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Sipho2001
Rocksteady-You think it's good that taxes are used to build mansions for leaders?
60%.... that means that these farms are probably all unprofitable still.
I read an article that Graxe was found with half a million dollars in her hand back while shopping in Singapore...
Finally... One last questions... do you believe that mugabe is still able to do a good job now that he is 90 years old and falls asleep duting state visits and speeches?
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T.C.T
Sipho200just saw ur qtions and im unable to answer them but glad relevent person from ZIM answered them perfectly,what MUGABE said is young generation should learn from old generation and i have no doubt that majority and capable young ppl from ZIM SHARE the same mental feeling with MUGABE remember advisors are available, age is just a number dnt make it a big issue
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tpaz
The truth is Zim is on the upward mend while RSA is going rock bottom.....Report Abuse
Rocksteady
How else will you build the house for the president except from taxes. Everytime a new president sits in the states they renovate the white house to the new occupant's tastes at the tax payer's expense.that was a wrong report. Who found her? She is a first lady and she will go shopping with her security detail. The Singapore authorities would know where she is and also provide security so who 'found' her with half a million. Even you Sipho should have deduced that that was a false report.
You slept through some of your lectures but you still passed didn't you Sipho, and possibly some other boring movies? I know I did sleep in some. These summits and stuff are boring sometime. If you google you will see various heads of state asleep in some or the other even Angela Merkel had the misfortune of being taken out by slumber in one.
I think he should handover though
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Rocksteady
Will be back in about an hour majimbos and ladies!Report Abuse
The-Rothschilds
Mugabe must be a d.esperate p.rostitute to pay this guy (Malema) to try and win election points for ZANU PF.Report Abuse
swona
malema should learn!Report Abuse
T.C.T
MALEMA said “We are not a generation of mini-skirts. We are a generation that continues with the struggle of President [Robert] Mugabe, of President [Nelson] Mandela.”Report Abuse
!!!Sinudeity!!!
T.C.T - You are a generation of mini skirts. A generation of uneducated, lazy social grant reliant f@t@sses.Report Abuse
T.C.T
!!!Sinudeity!!!kikikiki but im responding to educated ppl like you,perheps u can guide or tell me to what extend or level am i uneducated? blame it on greedy western
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The-Vince
As far as I know, Zimbabwe is becoming better and iprovement is on the rise in that country, and I got this confirmation from Zimbos themselves they are friends of mine, yes after the land grab and all, production stopped for while as planning and redistrubution had to be done, and look now it's getting back to being the power house of Africa like it used to, Soon more SA xenophobic dummies will be fleeing to Zim for opportunities. finaly Zim got its financial immancipation that was once channelled to only a few of certain color.and when it comes to education Zim people are the most educated so far, those people are intelligent, their IQ is far greater than that of South Africans, Mzansi youth, totoying for free marks and pass with 30% like what da f.u.ck.
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amaBok
Now this man Mo is what I call a moral leader. Not like the rubbish "leading" Zimbozansi. Cyril the Buffalo Whisperer - Tokyo the wannabe Donald T - Zuma Shabbies bagman - Failema and Floored the dimpopo fekwits - Mugbeki the Aids Monster - Winnie the Stompie Slayer on and on and on. This lot haibo you could use them as a rogues gallery depicting selfishness, stupidity, hatred and greed.Report Abuse
T.C.T
aluta continue comrades down with this greedy ka.ks phambili PRES MUGABE this clown called zuma can learn so much from uReport Abuse
KeRataBasadi
RocksteadyI think you should know Sinie Boy is white....
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Rocksteady
KeRataBasadiNow I see why Sinie boy was taking that stance...
The-Vince is the man though!
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MommaC
Yes, Zim has improved since Moggy Morgan was included in the government and Gonzo from the muppetts stopped printing money like toiilet paper. That doesn't mean that it is doing well or that they aren't going to need those damn 'western imperialists' to feed them again. WFP is currently tendering for suppliersReport Abuse
Mndende
Our attitude as Africans is sickening. People are poorer destitute after liberation. We settle for mediocrity. Our liberators are looting like there is no tomorrow and I guess we are expected to thank them for liberating us!!!Report Abuse
Mndende
MommaC you can say that again...We who have Zimbo blood know the truth! DA-DBN-GUY you rock!!! Rhetoric will not help anyone and hating the white man at our own peril is the du.mbest thing ever and if we are called i,mperialists so be it! All the educated Zim folk are plying their trade else.where in the UK, SA etc...Mugabe is no hero. Mo thanks my brother...Let the truth be told..Many people who used to adore Mugabe hat.e him now. Who owns the farms in Zim? Are they not importing maize they used to produce from Zambia and Malawi. Hmmm. Joyce Banda has ordered them to pay the millions of dollars they owe Malawi and they opted for a barter. Zanupf was angry when they saw the names of the farmers they chased out supplying them with maize from Zambia and they were ordered to remove the labels. We have less white farmers and what happened to all the farms? Go to Bronkhorstspruit and you will see big farms which were given to black farmers and they are lying dilapidated!!!!! Is this what we want. Food security is our NUMBER 1 PRIORITY...Redress with commonsense and not out of hatred for white people because the casualties remain us and even if you chase the white farmers who are productive the poor are the ones who will feel the brunt. Is that difficult to understand...My family in Zim have gone past hating the wh.ite man as they feel betrayed by this present regime which threatens and kills anyone who disagrees with them..We must live together....Report Abuse
Nqumla
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Koekemoer
I still stand by my statement below.
This above doesnt tell me anything much. It still doesnt change the fact ur from another continent. I would understand if were Namibia or Bostwana then u'd be AFRICAN. Now ur coing wth all sorts of nonsence because u want SENSE OF BELONGING. Funny enough people like Naas Botha's DNA traced him to EUROPE. Again not so long ago in 19 years ago we had "EUROPEAN ONLY" areas. What did this mean Koekemoer??????
FACT IS EUROPEANS MIGRATED TO AFRICA, AMERICAS, AUSTRALASIA etc.. from EUROPE.
Again Khoisan aren't only found in SA FACT.
Migration also also happened inside EUROPE.
Read
Some whites like going on about the AFRICAN history thinking we dont know their history.
European history
GERMANIC PEOPLE/NORDIC
Germanic tribes migrated from what is now Danmark and Norway region migrated to Germany, Holland,Sweden and Britain(Ireland,Scotland,Wales,Ireland), Luxemborg and Swistzerland.These tribes were the ANGLES,SAXONS,FRANKS etc,,In Britain the 1st people to move to Britain were Romans, then Celts and then Germanic people from European mainland.
CELTIC PEOPLE
Originates from central Europe BLACK SEA area migrated to western Europe to countries like France, Southern Germany,Britain(Ireland,Scotland,Wales,Ireland), Belgium etc..
ROMAN PEOPLE
In this case I wont mention their history since we dont have many people of ROMAN ancestry here.
ALL THESE PEOPLE ABOVE GAVE BIRTH TO MODERN English, Dutch,French,German etc..Then these people moved OUT OF EUROPE and colonised Americas and Africa.
DNA samples of their descendants still traces them back to EUROPE.
EUROPEAN DNA Map
Follow link.
http://www.google.co.za/imgres?hl=en&biw=1366&bih=625&tbm=isch&tbnid=dfV37iuO2cjxXM:&imgrefurl=http://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.com/2008/06/16/mitochondrial-dna-haplotypes-for-dummies/&docid=74ok6jchb3WSNM&imgurl=http://www.le.ac.uk/ge/maj4/EuropeMap%252BTree.jpg&w=4352&h=2726&ei=Bxd9UPDGMILG0QXIoYDIBw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=730&vpy=202&dur=561&hovh=178&hovw=284&tx=209&ty=102&sig=100928002182344928939&page=1&tbnh=138&tbnw=220&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0,i:76
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Nqumla
Mndende stop using we BLACKS becos ur WHITE. Jeez SADF soldiers?????Zim can do better without SANCTIONS. They have the HIGHEST LITURACY RATE in Africa. Their people atleast they have BRAINS than stupid graduates like LINDIWE MAZIBUKO who sees things 2 DIMENSIONAL and then get fed CAKE. Fat ass mama. While Pastor CORRESPONDENCE Maimane (Puppet with Theology degree from a SLUM called SOWETO) is being sent by his HANDLERS up and down. Then they say " Mmusi we want a report back". Banjalo ke abakhula ngemali yeqolo. Bafana nomama babo bathanda imali they dont care how they get it.
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Nqumla
SinudTHIS WAS UR SOCIAL ENGINEERING. This project was a success. Some people from these establishments don't grow taller than a COFFEE TABLE. Thanx to MULNUTRITION????
The word 'township' or 'location' refers to the underdeveloped residential areas located on the outskirts of urban in South Africa that were reserved for Africans who worked in cities that were designated "whitesonly" during the apartheid regime.
It is often mistakenly assumed that townships and residential 'group areas' began with the Apartheid National Party government that was voted into power by the whites-only electorate in 1948, but like all racist laws in South Africa, urban residential segregation has a much longer history.
All South African towns were segregated, and Africans were forced to live on the outskirts of the cities. Ndabeni near Cape Town was the first township to be established,
First township in South Africa
Ndabeni in Cape Town was the first township in South Africa, established in 1902 by the government of the Cape Colony. Not forgeting that the were living all over the around 1850s,
In 1901 there had been an outbreak of bubonic plague in Cape Town. This infectious fever is spread to humans by fleas on rats. Rats on ships docking at the Cape on their way to Europe brought this deadly disease to the southernmost tip of Africa. The bubonic plague took many lives and caused much panic.
The white government at the Cape at the time was looking for an excuse to relocate Africans who were living in central Cape Town. Many of these Africans worked at the docks, and, through no fault of their own, became infected by the plague. The white authorities labelled Africans a health risk and moved them to a new settlement - the first township - called Ndabeni, near Maitland, drawing on the Public Health Act to validate their actions.
Conditions in Ndabeni were totally inadequate, as described by Ciraj Rasool in his A Brief History of South African Townships: "Ndabeni bore the stigma of a plague camp ... with its surrounding fence and street grid with its regular (police) constable patrol. It consisted of five large dormitories, each of which accommodated 500 men. Six hundred and fifteen lean-to corrugated iron huts also housed eight people each. Nobody had privacy, and washing and cooking facilities were inadequate. Huts had no floors and were subject to flooding in winter, and only later were they raised on banks."
Townships like Ndabeni were created to house cheap, unskilled, male African workers. These persons were not allowed to permanently live in Cape Town, but had to return to their 'native reserves' when their labour was no longer needed.
In 1918, a Spanish influenza epidemic broke out in Cape Town, and conditions in Ndabeni were considered problematic. Authorities began to plan Langa location and started forcibly moving people there in 1927.
Langa was developed specifically to house people forcibly removed from other places and to deal with the influx of migrant labourers to urban areas. In 1930, Langa had about 1 500 residents. By the early 1960s there were more than 28 000 residents, of whom 18 500 were living in "bachelor" quarters
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Nqumla
People from these establishments above are BAD IN SPORTS ESPECIALLY SOCCER.Average man here stands at 1,50m to 1,68m hence they cant compete with people from North of Limpopo. They body type is very tiny INFANTILE.
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Nqumla
IM GONE FAVELA NEWSPAPER BLOGGS SEE YA'LL TOMORROW.Kofi Annan wrote an Article about SLUMS like SOWETO.
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!!!Sinudeity!!!
Nqumla - Too long didnt read.Report Abuse
MommaC
NqumlaLOL
Still a fail in history.
The Romans conquered most of Europe at one stage and had kids with the locals. Most white people have at least a smidgen of Roman in them.
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Nqumla
Andithanga nqabathengisi eSoweto kaloku bakhula omama babo bephanda ngemizimba. Non Tokyo banalengqondo wathengisa ngoHani emva kok watsha nedlagusha.
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Nqumla
I never disputed that hence I posted this DNA sample below.I said the English,Dutch,Germans etc..are descendants of INDIGENOUS EUROPEANS just like Zulus,Tswanas etc.. are descendants of Khoisan and Bantus.
GOT MY POINT GRANNY???
The colours here show relations between Romans,Celts,Germanics,Slavs etc..
EUROPEAN DNA Map
Follow link.
http://www.google.co.za/imgres?hl=en&biw=1366&bih=625&tbm=isch&tbnid=dfV37iuO2cjxXM:&imgrefurl=http://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.com/2008/06/16/mitochondrial-dna-haplotypes-for-dummies/&docid=74ok6jchb3WSNM&imgurl=http://www.le.ac.uk/ge/maj4/EuropeMap%252BTree.jpg&w=4352&h=2726&ei=Bxd9UPDGMILG0QXIoYDIBw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=730&vpy=202&dur=561&hovh=178&hovw=284&tx=209&ty=102&sig=100928002182344928939&page=1&tbnh=138&tbnw=220&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0,i:76
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Nqumla
SinudTomomrrow I will be going deep about ENGLISH, DUTCH,GERMAN history.
I knw people Kobus Wiese have GERMAN ancestry hence the name.
Ha ha IM WELL TRAVELLED MY FRIEND.
HISTORY TOMORROW FOR SURE. Come to class.
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MommaC
NqumlaYou may be 'well traveled' but your knowledge of European history is abysmal. There was no country called Germany when the Wiese family came to SA :)
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Mndende
Nqumla sundidika wena....nxa udakiwe ngiyabona ke manje!!!Report Abuse
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Nqumla - "Tomomrrow I will be going deep about ENGLISH, DUTCH,GERMAN history."But you keep posting the same $h17 every day...
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Mndende
Without sanctions? Hau hle? Its about time Zim proves it can survive kakhle without sanctions by the West besides ke ukhuluma udodi wodwa...Lindiwe is far smarter than you you are nothing but a misera.ble soul...just like your handlers...tjeeerrrrrrrrr. Am sure you never passed one subject eskolweni...Report Abuse
kolobadibaba
what is happening in zim is an unfortunate scenario, it's time african leaders take action against president robert mugabe. it's no longer about the sovereignty of the republic of zimbabwe but it's about the suffering of the poor people of zimbabwe and zimbabweans in the diaspora.Report Abuse
mshina
16 Oct 2012
warry
Education doesn't mean you will be a better leader.
SO U THINK A PERSON LIKE MALEMA WOULD BE BETTER ????
A DULL PERSON ALWAYS HAS SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT SOMEONE ............
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BraSipho
Zimbabweans must be the most patient and stupid people alive.They allow a political regime to ruin thier country.
So bad that we have to feed them and give them work.
Go well Zim, we will remember you when you are no more.
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