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Tshwane mayor roots for Kgalema Motlanthe

Oct 16, 2012 | Hlengiwe Nhlabathi | 53 comments

TSHWANE mayor Kgosientso Ramokgopa's branch wants President Jacob Zuma replaced in December.

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Oct 16, 2012

Dubul'Amanzi

Anyone but not Kanga man.Pandor no, (Sexwale must be a deputy) Mbalula SG, Modise DSG,Pandor Chairman
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Oct 16, 2012

warry

Hehehehe, happy holidays.
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Oct 16, 2012

Nyongoyamavenda

sowetan reporting about the branch nominating Motlante, realy? Mkhabela how much did you receive?
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Oct 16, 2012

Vhamsanda

I have no confidence in Motlanthe.
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Oct 16, 2012

Charley4sure

Who wants the fool Zuma to be president for a further 7 years, expect for that forsaken tribe.
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Oct 16, 2012

Shredder

The jelly man. As DJ Winner said, he is painfully shy.
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Oct 16, 2012

Lord-Have-Mercy

I have no confident in Kgalema Motlante, but anyway he must have his chance in 2019
I get a sence that Zuma wil be elected unopossed.
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Oct 16, 2012

LostGuy

all the way Kgalema's camp
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Oct 16, 2012

Nyongoyamavenda

thank you sowetan for blocking my comments i wil never be silenced
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Oct 16, 2012

Mgaraji

Mkhabela are you going to give us an update of all branches in SA as to who they nominate or you resuscitate dwindling hopes of Kgali supporters or you run out of stories.
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Oct 16, 2012

warry

@ Mgaraji, I think Sowetan is so based. That's how they being doing their reporting.
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Oct 16, 2012

Nyongoyamavenda

i am just taken aback by Sowetan reporting on slightest movement that favours Motlante. When Eastern Cape PEC nominated Zuma sowetan is the only newspaper that didnt report on the story but now they are reporting on a branch,sowetan your job is report ,give news not to take sides if you have forgoten
but the wosrt is that you have begun cycling old newss of late ,once a great newspaper is now run by clueless editor
can somebody save this once glorious black edition
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Oct 16, 2012

Nyongoyamavenda

Charley4sure
Who wants the fool Zuma to be president for a further 7 years, expect for that forsaken tribe.
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wise people never speak like you ,if Zuma is foool then you must be a morooon albeit the one that can write
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Oct 16, 2012

Charley4sure

Nyongoyamavenda
Charley4sure
Who wants the fool Zuma to be president for a further 7 years, expect for that forsaken tribe.
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wise people never speak like you ,if Zuma is foool then you must be a morooon albeit the one that can write
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I will not please thee. I will not prove my wisdom to anyone by praising your president.
What I know is that Zuma is morally bankrupt, has lost credibility and cannot lead the
country. If you do not see that Zuma is a liability then there is something wrong with you
and the rest of the people who supports this thing (Zuma). Call me whatever you want,
suit yourself.

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Oct 16, 2012

Pheli-Marabi

This ANC method of branch nominations is outdated.
We don't even know if Motlanthe is running.
There are no debates:how do we know how the two differ on policy (or is it a tribal thing).
Mark my words it won't end well.Fists will be flying all over soon.
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Oct 16, 2012

Nako

Is it because Zulu speaking pple are not welcomed in Pretoria? And ja yes it was Xhosa people you hated when it was Mbeki....feel sorry for ur thinking people don’t c why u want what u want.
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Oct 16, 2012

Nyongoyamavenda

Charley4sure
Nyongoyamavenda
Charley4sure
Who wants the fool Zuma to be president for a further 7 years, expect for that forsaken tribe.
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wise people never speak like you ,if Zuma is foool then you must be a morooon albeit the one that can write
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I will not please thee. I will not prove my wisdom to anyone by praising your president.
What I know is that Zuma is morally bankrupt, has lost credibility and cannot lead the
country. If you do not see that Zuma is a liability then there is something wrong with you
and the rest of the people who supports this thing (Zuma). Call me whatever you want,
suit yourself.
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you cant prove any wisdom to me cos you posses none,there isnt need to prove anything by just opening your mouth we can tell a lot about you
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Oct 16, 2012

Charley4sure

Nyongoyamavenda

you cant prove any wisdom to me cos you posses none,there isnt need to prove anything by just opening your mouth we can tell a lot about you
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Your support for the morally bankrupt president says a lot about you also.


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Oct 16, 2012

!!!Sinudeity!!!

Nyongoyamavenda - And yet here you are, opening your mouth. Not giving any recourse for yor defense of that dum@ss zuma.
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Oct 16, 2012

lenyora13

A smart way of handing a resignation letter.. You know very well Msholozi will win and u poke a middle finger to him.. if it was principle I commend u mare if it was for foolish reason then ur toasted..
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Oct 16, 2012

Neon

Aga shaim, Tshwane is probably the worst run large metro in South Africa. Pretoria should be incorporated with Limpompo!
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Oct 16, 2012

Neon

These days Tshwane looks more and more like Harare/Polokwane
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Oct 16, 2012

Mosquer

Nyongoyamavenda
thank you sowetan for blocking my comments i wil never be silenced
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Hahaaa!!! Eish, ska wara o tla ba strong
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Oct 16, 2012

MsKinkyakaKamaSutra

I dont care who they root for, all of them are a LIABILITY.............
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Oct 16, 2012

MsKinkyakaKamaSutra

@Vhamsanda
I have no confidence in Motlanthe
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He is a coward and sitting on the fence........... he is swayed by the wind (wherever the wind blows that is where he will be).......... He is a FOX
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Oct 16, 2012

Mgwijikhwebu

Pretoria is just an extension of Limpopo. Haven't you heard that Limpopo ends in Midrand, so they say.
Nevertheless, Motlanthe is Tswana and Pretoria is dominated by Pedi and Tswana people, of course with a sizeable but insignificant Ndebele majority. It is thus expected that most Gauteng regions will naturally support Motlanthe. He is also GP boy by the way. Zuma will be supported mainly by Ekurhuleni branches which tend to have a sizeable number of Nguni speaking people.
Let's be fair and tell the truth, that is how power is won. It is won largely through racial, religious, ethnic (and language) and regional associations. There will from time to time be exceptions just like in the FS case. But we all know if it was not for Ace Magashule's efforts and the supporters who have remained loyal to him, the FS "Sotho" vote could have easily gone Motlanthe's way.
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Oct 16, 2012

thinya

Ramokgopa, you must start searching for another job, you are fired after mangaung, that man ubaba Zuma has already won the race, ask ntate Motlanthe for more details...
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Oct 16, 2012

Nyongoyamavenda

!!!Sinudeity!!!
Nyongoyamavenda - And yet here you are, opening your mouth. Not giving any recourse for yor defense of that dum@ss zuma.
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you have never called verwoed and p.w. botha dum@ss but not only they caused untold suffering to blacks ,they killed us in numbers, in an African way its wrong to insul**t an elderly person regardless of his or her action ,i belive even biblicaly it is so, its not about defending an individual but point out the rot in moral decay. peopel want adopt this ungodly western way but they dont even understand it ,it is satanic isnpired
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Oct 16, 2012

Nyongoyamavenda

thinya
Ramokgopa, you must start searching for another job, you are fired after mangaung, that man ubaba Zuma has already won the race, ask ntate Motlanthe for more details...
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and worst thing is that Motlante will never challenge Zuma cos he realized he has already los ,that coward will stand there as frozen pole
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Oct 16, 2012

Nyongoyamavenda

Mgwijikhwebu
Pretoria is just an extension of Limpopo. Haven't you heard that Limpopo ends in Midrand, so they say.
Nevertheless, Motlanthe is Tswana and Pretoria is dominated by Pedi and Tswana people, of course with a sizeable but insignificant Ndebele majority. It is thus expected that most Gauteng regions will naturally support Motlanthe. He is also GP boy by the way. Zuma will be supported mainly by Ekurhuleni branches which tend to have a sizeable number of Nguni speaking people.
Let's be fair and tell the truth, that is how power is won. It is won largely through racial, religious, ethnic (and language) and regional associations. There will from time to time be exceptions just like in the FS case. But we all know if it was not for Ace Magashule's efforts and the supporters who have remained loyal to him, the FS "Sotho" vote could have easily gone Motlanthe's way.
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we should never promote such a brazen racism its very dangerous to our country it assist us with nothing
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Oct 16, 2012

!!!Sinudeity!!!

Nyongoyamavenda - Then these poor s3nsitive souls shouldnt be in government. JZ and all his other 3lders are duuumb@sses of note. Jacob is a s3xual deviant, incompetent and has the intellectual capabilities of a ret@rd. On top of that he is a liar and a thief.


Sl3eping around with the daughters of friends. Stealing billions of rands from poor people. K1lling each other because of politics. Im sorry to tell you, but God isnt on the side of your leaders dude, the d3vil is currently running Lithuli house.
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Oct 16, 2012

Charley4sure

Nyongoyamavenda
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Nyongoyamavenda - And yet here you are, opening your mouth. Not giving any recourse for yor defense of that dum@ss zuma.
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you have never called verwoed and p.w. botha dum@ss but not only they caused untold suffering to blacks ,they killed us in numbers, in an African way its wrong to insul**t an elderly person regardless of his or her action ,i belive even biblicaly it is so, its not about defending an individual but point out the rot in moral decay. peopel want adopt this ungodly western way but they dont even understand it ,it is satanic isnpired
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Don’t even involve culture or tradition into politics. Stealing from tax papers to build a
playboy mansion is unafrican, corruption is not African either or being incompetent
and illiterate. Don’t justify that thing’s action by bringing the race card mchana. What
I know is that respect is earned as far as I know Zuma did a lot of things for us to
disrespect him. Get over it, do not defend the indefensible.

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Oct 16, 2012

Mdala

Zuma will prevail like it or not Zuma uzokhonya after the conference.

Iam yet to see a Pedi defeating Nguni man in politics even in fighting if I may say so.
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Nyongoyamavenda

Charley4sure
Nyongoyamavenda
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Nyongoyamavenda - And yet here you are, opening your mouth. Not giving any recourse for yor defense of that dum@ss zuma.
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you have never called verwoed and p.w. botha dum@ss but not only they caused untold suffering to blacks ,they killed us in numbers, in an African way its wrong to insul**t an elderly person regardless of his or her action ,i belive even biblicaly it is so, its not about defending an individual but point out the rot in moral decay. peopel want adopt this ungodly western way but they dont even understand it ,it is satanic isnpired
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Don’t even involve culture or tradition into politics. Stealing from tax papers to build a
playboy mansion is unafrican, corruption is not African either or being incompetent
and illiterate. Don’t justify that thing’s action by bringing the race card mchana. What
I know is that respect is earned as far as I know Zuma did a lot of things for us to
disrespect him. Get over it, do not defend the indefensible.
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i never sai culture but every society has its way of doing things if you dnot know tha may you were raised by a single parent it apparent through your lack of emotional control,what i have said is true an elderly is an elderly you are simply cursing yourself by insulting an elderly, it is sai Noah got so drunk and became naked one of his sons laughed him and God cursed him ,may be you admire too much western culture whic has drawing all people to not believe in God it is ultimately your own gain or loss
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Nyongoyamavenda

!!!Sinudeity!!!
Nyongoyamavenda - Then these poor s3nsitive souls shouldnt be in government. JZ and all his other 3lders are duuumb@sses of note. Jacob is a s3xual deviant, incompetent and has the intellectual capabilities of a ret@rd. On top of that he is a liar and a thief.


Sl3eping around with the daughters of friends. Stealing billions of rands from poor people. K1lling each other because of politics. Im sorry to tell you, but God isnt on the side of your leaders dude, the d3vil is currently running Lithuli house.
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yes you can criticize him and even mobilized agaisnt what you think is wrong but i am talking about insults here ,when you are the one who insulting and telling devil is runing luthuli i can only see devil in you
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Charley4sure

Nyongoyamavenda
Charley4sure
Nyongoyamavenda
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Nyongoyamavenda - And yet here you are, opening your mouth. Not giving any recourse for yor defense of that dum@ss zuma.
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you have never called verwoed and p.w. botha dum@ss but not only they caused untold suffering to blacks ,they killed us in numbers, in an African way its wrong to insul**t an elderly person regardless of his or her action ,i belive even biblicaly it is so, its not about defending an individual but point out the rot in moral decay. peopel want adopt this ungodly western way but they dont even understand it ,it is satanic isnpired
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Don’t even involve culture or tradition into politics. Stealing from tax papers to build a
playboy mansion is unafrican, corruption is not African either or being incompetent
and illiterate. Don’t justify that thing’s action by bringing the race card mchana. What
I know is that respect is earned as far as I know Zuma did a lot of things for us to
disrespect him. Get over it, do not defend the indefensible.
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i never sai culture but every society has its way of doing things if you dnot know tha may you were raised by a single parent it apparent through your lack of emotional control,what i have said is true an elderly is an elderly you are simply cursing yourself by insulting an elderly, it is sai Noah got so drunk and became naked one of his sons laughed him and God cursed him ,may be you admire too much western culture whic has drawing all people to not believe in God it is ultimately your own gain or loss
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Explaining how I was raised is rather irrelevant for me to even entertain it. Quoting
a scripture for your purpose is fine, even the Devil can site a scripture for his purposes.
it is funny cause the bible is against most things that “thing” does but rather you
chose the scripture for your own purposes. You are definitely correct about socities
having their way of doing things, but my South African society is against thiefs, fornication,
selfishness, tribalism, racism and incompetence. My society is about earning respect.

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Oct 16, 2012

ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat

@Mdala
Zuma will prevail like it or not Zuma uzokhonya after the conference.

Iam yet to see a Pedi defeating Nguni man in politics even in fighting if I may say so.
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Oh, you desperate tribalist! Let me give you an update on what is happening in ANC branches. In Limpopo, most branches are going the way of Motlanthe. One must not be misled by Frank Maponya reporting on isolated and obscure branches favouring Jacob Zuma. Jacob Zuma is broadly seen as he really is in Limpopo and people are not confused, except for those who have been given money to campaign on his behalf. How do you explain to young people, women, men that Jacob Zuma is the right person to lead the ANC and the country after all that we have seen in the past three years he has been president. It does not make sense! You can only try that if you ae unemployed and given money by Zuma factionalists.

In the Eastern Cape most branches are going the Motlanthe. OR Tambo is staunchly behind Motlanthe except for some small sub-region whose standing is questionable because its branches cannot quorate. Chris Hani Region, a very small region and the home of Gwede Mantashe backs GM and JZ. But the rest of the regions back Motlanthe. We should not forget that 70% of ANC members are actually in OR Tambo. The REC in Buffalo tried to push for Zuma but dismally failed. At least they will say to Zuma and Mantashe that they tried their best but failed because the people would have none of it.


In Northern Cape, most branches are going the way of Motlanthe.
The same applies to North-West , even where the imposed interim structure of Ngaka Modiri tried to impose Zuma on branches.

Mpumalanga, Freistata and KZN have serious problems because they padded the membership lists to ensure that they send large delegations to Mangaung. But now branch meetings have to be held and they cannot quorate with ghost members. The only way they can fudge the figures is with the co-operation of national, provincial and regional leaders who are administering the process. But otherwise many branches should fail to quorate because there are no people to attend.

Gauteng is going the Motlanthe way except for some branches in eKurhuleni.

Despite the propaganda in the newspapers, ANC Youth League leaders are doing a sterling job on the ground lobbying branches. And their candidate Kgalema Motlanthe is going to win. It is the only oprion that makes sense. We cannot have Zuma continuing with his crises and more of the same. Otherwise there is going to be an African Spring Revolution in this country with youth rising up against government. How do we explain Nkandlagate and all this nonsense around the country to young people? Returning Zuma will trigger a revolution speared by young people. Time for Zuma to go! And those Zuma apologists in the Guptas' newspaper must wake up to reality and not just repsort their own wishes. The same applies to the likes of Karima Brown and Steve Fiedman who will be eating their own words after Mangaung but will be soldiering on like nothing happened.
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Oct 16, 2012

s.cold

GOOD LUCK
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Oct 16, 2012

WhatTheHack

People of sober mind please like:
http://www.facebook.com/JacobZumaIsNotMyPresident?fref=ts
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Oct 16, 2012

Gusheshe

I dont give a toss as to who anc vote for to oppose these thing you call a president(Zoomer) in mangaung bt i have already madeup my mind that im gonna vote for the Madam(Zille)
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Oct 16, 2012

swona

think I can leave with anyone as long as its not zuma!
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Oct 16, 2012

Pheli-Marabi

Mdala
Zuma will prevail like it or not Zuma uzokhonya after the conference.
Iam yet to see a Pedi defeating Nguni man in politics even in fighting if I may say so.
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Ya its true Inkatha has infiltrated the ANC.
Such statements are alien to the ANC.
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Oct 16, 2012

VENDALIOUS

Hai this one looks retarted
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Oct 16, 2012

Dandalo

Kgalema is good but the typical anti-amazulu attitude of the mapedi tribe is worsening and they will loose for that.
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Oct 16, 2012

Mgwijikhwebu

Most indicators point towards a Zuma victory at this stage. Yes, things may change, but the chances are getting slimmer and slimmer. In addition to FS, KZN and MP, all that JZ needs is 30 to 40% of the EC vote, and a trickle of votes from other provinces to win the race. It should be noted that provinces such as Limpopo, GP, WC et.al. are not as united as KZN, hence JZ will still get a sizeable number of votes from those provinces. Of course the same can be said about FS and MP, and even to a very lesser extent KZN. But Msholozi is almost there. Come end of November, I will start buying champaign, whisky and beers for myself and friends in anticiptation of the mother of all celebrations in mid-December: We will of course be celebrating JZ's victory.
Bathathe Nxamalala, bathathe Msholozi. Banike isibhaxu baze bazinyele oMbalula, Mashatile, Motlanthe, Mathale noMalema (ehamba nemidlwane yakhe uShivambu noMagaqa).
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Oct 16, 2012

Gusheshe

@Dandalo

Nkosazana Dlamini zuma is good and can be a wise first Woman president but the typical anti-non zulu attitude of the zulu tribe is worsening things by supporting a fellow zulu looser of a president
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Oct 16, 2012

Nzwere

Gusheshe
I dont give a toss as to who anc vote for to oppose these thing you call a president(Zoomer) in mangaung bt i have already madeup my mind that im gonna vote for the Madam(Zille)
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They are talking about the ANC elective conference my friend, not General elections.
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Mgaraji

ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat
@Mdala
Zuma will prevail like it or not Zuma uzokhonya after the conference.

Iam yet to see a Pedi defeating Nguni man in politics even in fighting if I may say so.
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Oh, you desperate tribalist! Let me give you an update on what is happening in ANC branches. In Limpopo, most branches are going the way of Motlanthe. One must not be misled by Frank Maponya reporting on isolated and obscure branches favouring Jacob Zuma. Jacob Zuma is broadly seen as he really is in Limpopo and people are not confused, except for those who have been given money to campaign on his behalf. How do you explain to young people, women, men that Jacob Zuma is the right person to lead the ANC and the country after all that we have seen in the past three years he has been president. It does not make sense! You can only try that if you ae unemployed and given money by Zuma factionalists.

In the Eastern Cape most branches are going the Motlanthe. OR Tambo is staunchly behind Motlanthe except for some small sub-region whose standing is questionable because its branches cannot quorate. Chris Hani Region, a very small region and the home of Gwede Mantashe backs GM and JZ. But the rest of the regions back Motlanthe. We should not forget that 70% of ANC members are actually in OR Tambo. The REC in Buffalo tried to push for Zuma but dismally failed. At least they will say to Zuma and Mantashe that they tried their best but failed because the people would have none of it.


In Northern Cape, most branches are going the way of Motlanthe.
The same applies to North-West , even where the imposed interim structure of Ngaka Modiri tried to impose Zuma on branches.

Mpumalanga, Freistata and KZN have serious problems because they padded the membership lists to ensure that they send large delegations to Mangaung. But now branch meetings have to be held and they cannot quorate with ghost members. The only way they can fudge the figures is with the co-operation of national, provincial and regional leaders who are administering the process. But otherwise many branches should fail to quorate because there are no people to attend.

Gauteng is going the Motlanthe way except for some branches in eKurhuleni.

Despite the propaganda in the newspapers, ANC Youth League leaders are doing a sterling job on the ground lobbying branches. And their candidate Kgalema Motlanthe is going to win. It is the only oprion that makes sense. We cannot have Zuma continuing with his crises and more of the same. Otherwise there is going to be an African Spring Revolution in this country with youth rising up against government. How do we explain Nkandlagate and all this nonsense around the country to young people? Returning Zuma will trigger a revolution speared by young people. Time for Zuma to go! And those Zuma apologists in the Guptas' newspaper must wake up to reality and not just repsort their own wishes. The same applies to the likes of Karima Brown and Steve Fiedman who will be eating their own words after Mangaung but will be soldiering on like nothing happened.
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You are coming back from hibernation with old dead threats. Where have you been? Uyasabisa. Uyachela.
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Oct 16, 2012

Phafi

Mr Ntate Kgalema Motlanthe ke nna situlong o tle o bontshe our current president JZ. How a president should behave. Halala! Mr Motlanthe Halala!
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Oct 16, 2012

Dandalo

@Gusheshe
The list of Kwazulu comprise Motlanthe too, Ramaphosa if Motlanthe is not there but Limpopo list has no umzulu hence I spot anti-amazulu tendency among mapedi. Even some of you here have been rubishing amazulu for the sake of been amazulu and worst is that majority tribal population in this country is amazulu.
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Oct 16, 2012

mhlupheki

so what ?
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Oct 16, 2012

mavovokhabs

Lot of confident is required from Kgalema Motlanthe, required due to his blessed leadership skills but tribally he have gained support.If Kgalema Motlanthe take over ANC will loose the elections. We need young economically informed leaders on the ANC if changes come, people like Ramaphosa and Mbalula(after Mbalula gone through economical education).
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Oct 17, 2012

5SKIPAZ

Kgalema is too soft though i dont support the showeer man
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