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'Government parties while the country burns'

Oct 16, 2012 | Sapa, Beeld | 70 comments

The government spent R4.67 billion on catering, entertainment and travel allowances in 2011 - report

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Oct 16, 2012

Maratachelete

I'm not surprised,all that talk about job creation is nothing but hot air.So,government is living it up,while some people can barely eat.
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Oct 16, 2012

DJ-Winner

As long as the law allowed them to access these funds, I see nothing wrong with it.

If it was wrongfully obtained, responsible person(s) must be brought to justice...
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Oct 16, 2012

ilsodas

We are screwed big time, and you people will vote for them next elections....
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Oct 16, 2012

Maratachelete

@DJ Winner,you might have a problem with government living large at the expense of taxpayers,such as myself and 5 million others,but I do,because all these billions could have ben used to better the lives of South Africans,who really need upliftment.Cannot believe you'd condone such riduculous behaviour from people.who are ought to know better.
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Oct 16, 2012

MissBhakajuju

nothing wrong here... if its part of the package, why not blow the cash ?? I hate cheap this cheap politicing by the DA, although they seem, to be the only alternative party to the dissapointing ANC- under JZ


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Oct 16, 2012

KeRataBasadi

@ DJ-Winner
As long as the law allowed them to access these funds, I see nothing wrong with it.

If it was wrongfully obtained, responsible person(s) must be brought to justice...
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This from a chappies wrapper : Did You Know...

Apartheid had discriminatory laws, to which you still moan about today ?

According to your own logic though, anything enacted into law is okay, am I right or wrong DJ ?

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Oct 16, 2012

LBS

@ DJ-Winner
As long as the law allowed them to access these funds, I see nothing wrong with it.

If it was wrongfully obtained, responsible person(s) must be brought to justice...

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@MissBhakajuju
nothing wrong here... if its part of the package, why not blow the cash ?? I hate cheap this cheap politicing by the DA, although they seem, to be the only alternative party to the dissapointing ANC- under JZ

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You are both unbelievably obtuse!
Just because the law 'allows' it or it's written in the handbook DOES NOT make is morally acceptable or right when there is so much that needs to be done or fixed in this country.
Do not defend the indefensible - the DA are there to hold the opposition to account when it is TAXPAYERS money being squandered on frivolities by a few VERY GREEDY and MORALLY BANCRUPT poiticians!! :(
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Oct 16, 2012

Mashesha99

The country does not burn itself butthe people in it do, and then they'll want better roads and houses while they destroy the little that they have. A bunch of lazy and sad people is what they are, we all need to play a role in how our life turns out and stop pointing fingers for our failure!!
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Oct 16, 2012

DA-DBN-GUY

DJ-Winner
As long as the law allowed them to access these funds, I see nothing wrong with it.

If it was wrongfully obtained, responsible person(s) must be brought to justice...


You are as thick as shyte!!
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Oct 16, 2012

The-Vince

That's a lot of money, it just made me to think, how many proper RDP houses could have been built for the real needy of this country? and what does the government do? they spend it on "Le Good life", just to think of it, how many schools could have been built or could have been improved, and equeped with labs, Library and Computer centers? Ja we realy have to condemn this behaviour, even if they did it by the book, but such spending is ridiculous. it's an insult to many of us who have the interest of this country at heart, who want to see this country getting better for everyone, all young people getting the top class education they deserve and creating jobs and imparting skills to the people of this country, but nah fun comes first to u ANC.
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Oct 16, 2012

Shredder

@DJ-Winner
As long as the law allowed them to access these funds, I see nothing wrong with it.
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So do you think it is ok to blow the money instead of using it properly? But anyway, I don't blame you. We see it happening over and over in the townships. People spending money on booze when there is no food at home. **Shaking my head in disbelief** at what you are saying DJ.
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Oct 16, 2012

Neon

This is shocking, but unfortunately, "another" Anc government will be just the same. We need a new government under a different party rule. If people keep on voting Anc, you will deserve the government you voted for, as simple as that....
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Oct 16, 2012

LBS

@Neon
This is shocking, but unfortunately, "another" Anc government will be just the same. We need a new government under a different party rule. If people keep on voting Anc, you will deserve the government you voted for, as simple as that....

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Problem is for the people who don't vote for this government, still having to pay tax to support the life styles they think they're entitled to.
You are dead right though, we need a new government under a different party before there is nothing left to salvage!
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Oct 16, 2012

Shredder

@DA-DBN-GUY
DJ-Winner
As long as the law allowed them to access these funds, I see nothing wrong with it.
If it was wrongfully obtained, responsible person(s) must be brought to justice...

You are as thick as shyte!!
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Hihihihihihi. Moenie vloek hoor?
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Oct 16, 2012

DJ-Winner

I gave a very fair comment. Maybe people have a reading disability.
We have laws in this country that guide people. I still maintain my point that if the spending was still within the boundaries that are stipulated by the law, I have no problem with it. If the spending was outside boundaries, responsible person(s) must be brought to justice...
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Oct 16, 2012

The-Vince

Those of you claiming there isn't anything wrong with this spending, you got to be stupid, retarded or too ignorant to see the simplest of things. This spending is totaly a dismay. It's either you have benefitted from this R4,7M one way or the other and now you think will be like the buffoons ya'll are, and your ANC government.
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Oct 16, 2012

MissBhakajuju

so according to the DA how much was the Government suppose to spend ?? Bull dust, this is what I despise... just oppose & oppose without giving any better ideas... mximm... the Government sector in S.A is very huge, and so will be the budget..... if thers workshops, meetings, press conference, etc on daily basis, for the whole year... will you be okey if whole budget is R800 ??? although I'm in Business, but I fully understand this one




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Oct 16, 2012

Mbeki_2

Remember these things in 2014 everyone - and remember da DA is NOT da only opposition party. Vote for ANY different party. In parliament the opposition will group together and make it a BIG mutha DOG to rip that damn minister handbook into shreds - and write a new one, with LESS spending for these tsoti ministers.
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Oct 16, 2012

Genitals

The same people who earn a huge amount of money are the ones squander the money for tax payers. It would be better if these money was used to buy vehicles to transport farm workers. I hate ANC. Enough is enough.
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Oct 16, 2012

Mbeki_2

MissBhakajuju
so according to the DA how much was the Government suppose to spend ??
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In WC DA ministers only allowed R400,000 for cars MAX. but ANC ministers can spend R1,2 million on a car. You don't think you can get a good enough car for a minister for R400k?
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Oct 16, 2012

swona

have you noticed all ministers are fat, only Minister Nkoane-Mashabane is leaving a healthy life-style! she is the only minister who lost significant visible amount of weight in the past 18months! big ups to her! then we know where the 4.5billion went!
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Oct 16, 2012

WhatTheHack

People of sober mind please like:
http://www.facebook.com/JacobZumaIsNotMyPresident?fref=ts
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Oct 16, 2012

MsKinkyakaKamaSutra

DJ-Winner
As long as the law allowed them to access these funds, I see nothing wrong with it.
If it was wrongfully obtained, responsible person(s) must be brought to justice...
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a jaw dropping comment

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Oct 16, 2012

MsKinkyakaKamaSutra

Sh!t that is a lot of moolah......... you would swear that the Rmillion spent by government are rolls of toi.let paper
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Oct 16, 2012

photocopy

@DJ winner i agree with you, if its within thier budget limit and they used the money for that purpose then they is nothing wrong, i think DA must stop being reactive, its useless to raise it now the right time should have been when the budget was allocated.
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Oct 16, 2012

Motsogapele

As long a SA Denfence has more Generals than the troops our Defence will continue to spend more on catering, entertainment and travel allowances. Duplication of work, too many chiefs without knowledge and Decisive Leadership. Always first to get pay raise, a lot of pay benefits,etc First to oppress their own subordinate. You can no longer be proud to be an Officer in the Defence.
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Oct 16, 2012

DA-DBN-GUY

DJ-Winner

Lets try and put this in a way that EVEN you could comprehend! AT THE END OF EVERY MONTH YOU GET YOUR SALARY. DO YOU SPEND IT ON YOUR FAMILY TO ENSURE THEY HAVE FOOD, SHELTER, CLOTHING ETC OR DO YOU GO TO THE SHEBEEN AND DRINK IT AWAY? You are legally entitled to do this but does that make it right that your family (South Africans) must suffer while you(government) get to party with their money?
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Oct 16, 2012

DA-DBN-GUY

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@DJ winner i agree with you, if its within thier budget limit and they used the money for that purpose then they is nothing wrong, i think DA must stop being reactive, its useless to raise it now the right time should have been when the budget was allocated.

It is this kind of mentality that has rendered Africa a dying continent. Money is being wasted on parties and travel and NOT the people of the country and the fact ijits like this cant see it is the root cause of the problem.
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Oct 16, 2012

BlackSeed

I wonder if DA will be able to cope with this entire president they are proclaiming. I really wish the can win an election in my era so I can bear witness.

Yes, it is irresponsible for government to spend such large sums on just entertainment; But, what about the rest of the economic players?

Government is surely spending this money on Investors/business partners but none of them are mentioned in this.

Selective media as always, trying hard to portray others like they did in the past and will continue to do so in this present day.

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Oct 16, 2012

Thinawise

This is purely ridiculous,I dont believe in complaining but in doing the right thing,if all the people here are complaining,it means they will do the right thing during the next elections and vote any party except ANC.

Another thing DA should stop telling the people what ANC
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Oct 16, 2012

Thinawise

Another thing DA should stop telling the people what the ANC is not doing and tell the nation what they will do better...
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Oct 16, 2012

malemaforpresident

All this happens under Shower Head Nose we no longer have an accountable Government but a bunch of thieves
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Oct 16, 2012

warry

I really see how the media can misinform people. Sowetan, in government we work like this. I will travel from Pretoria to Kimberly to work there for three weeks and I will be booked in a hotel to stay there. Imagine roughly 800000 government officials doing the same for a year.

If they don't avail themselves to the people you complain. If they do you complain. What more do you want.
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Oct 16, 2012

DA-DBN-GUY

Thinawise
Another thing DA should stop telling the people what the ANC is not doing and tell the nation what they will do better

Valid statement. But unfortunately the majority will not vote DA bcos they fear the return of apartheid. They would rather suffer under anc rule than to be truly free under anyone else. I do believe the DA is the better option but Zille should step down and get someone like Dr Ramphele to lead or even Lindiwe to make it a more credible party in the eys of the majority.Although I do think Zille is an excellent leader she should do what is right to move forward.
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Oct 16, 2012

Thinawise

@DA-DBN-GUY
I agree with you 100% but I think the nation has to understand that the apartheid is long-gone.we have policies now unlike those days where we didnt have.to me DA is the option and it is scary looking to where our economy is going.


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Oct 16, 2012

Hail

@Warry at Kimberly there is no one that can do what you do? The national must communicate with provincial and provincail with local so why do they have to go there?if they hire their local people and some one give instruction from national do inspection or visiting once a year, that will be cutting of expendituere. if you hired capable people there is no way of going to them now and then because they will be working with you towards a goal of your organisation. If is kind of urgent which the government do not know what is urgent. What about the money for entertainment while the poor does not have the water.
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Oct 16, 2012

Chichi7

With all that expenditure, could they not use it to create jobs? How many homes, clinics and schools would have been built with all that money. Dammit, i wish there was a way i could stop HR deducting tax!! Hating someone is such a heavy burden to carry but Lord help me, I despise JZ and his shinanigans with a passion. mxm
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Oct 16, 2012

RobinH

warry: Few things are more distressing than people who are determinedly blind.
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Oct 16, 2012

Hail

@ Chichi7 true! same here. That money will make a huge difference in the lives of many. The government of people for the people my foot. They sitting on top of so many post then they will tell you that there is no money while they wasting on food and entertainment! the government itself contribute a lot by not creating jobs to people. One person want to do work of 5 people by mouth perfomance wise zilt, so that they can travel around instead of delegating people all over the country.
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Oct 16, 2012

malemaforpresident

What is wrong if people attend meetings and during lunch they eat their lunch box than using state funds to fill their own stomach?
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Oct 16, 2012

Chabella

This a few more billions added to the trillions that the ANC have already wasted. Trillions that could have be used to create millions of jobs, built houses and schools, infratructure, roads. They know they wont be voted out, they know they can always blame apartheid / colonists / white people and they know there is nothing anyone can do about it. They can just lie about the DA, they know there is no other strong party. VIVA ANC, killing the future of our kids, one billion rand at a time
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Oct 16, 2012

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@DA-DBN-GUY you gave a relevant example when you receive your monthly salary you allocate as per your need,1 of government needs its travelling and accomodation then they have to allocate money for that.refer to budget principle.
DA knew about this allocation during the budget process and to complain now it doesnt give sense to me unless if they say the spent unbudgeted amount.
lets not criticize evrything done by government for the sake of Criticize , what makes u think tht DA it will use our money wisely.is it because of the colour
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Oct 16, 2012

Mbeki_2

Any one who fears if they vote DA that apartheid will come back. this is the answer - WE CAN JUST VOTE THEM OUT - - it's gone. Stop being afraid of ANC ancestor/hell/apartheid nonsense . . . no-one will bring back apartheid.
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Oct 16, 2012

bulamaoto

DA must shut up.We cant listen to a party which is still practising apartheid in the WC.The Deartment of Defence is one of the most Department which likes functions.The rank matters most when is time for functions.if u occupy the junior rank u can only sleep in a low standard type of accommodation and if you are a in a higher rank position you go for expensive accommodation and you can travek as you wish without considering your juniors
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Oct 16, 2012

WhatTheHack

People of sober mind please like:
http://www.facebook.com/JacobZumaIsNotMyPresident?fref=ts
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Oct 16, 2012

Mamlambo

no one will bring back a.partheid.

This is true. People must stop f.earing this m.onster.
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Oct 16, 2012

Smaiza

So people, what is job creation? DA supporters are so stupid, Government should spend so that businesses keep going. They (DA) always preach of boosting small businesses at the same time critised the spendings.

Can one DA supporter tell us, how the government should spend?
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Oct 16, 2012

Mbeki_2

bulamaoto
.The Deartment of Defence is one of the most Department which likes functions.The rank matters
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DA in WC does NOT run Defence Force - that is STILL run by National Govt = ANC govt. Why do you think DA had ask ANC national govt to send army into gang areas in WC - and govt said No. DA only runs municipalities.
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Oct 16, 2012

WhatTheHack

people of sober mind please like face book page:

Jacob Zuma Is Not My President
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Oct 16, 2012

!!!Sinudeity!!!

Smaiza - WCape created 100,000 new jobs, while the rest of South Africa LOST a million jobs. The stupid ANC doesnt know how to create jobs.
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Oct 16, 2012

!!!Sinudeity!!!

Anyways, R5 billion p1ssed away on parties, entertainment and transport. Money could have been used to pay off the roads. But no, you still have to pay the eTolls.
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Oct 16, 2012

Smaiza

@!!!Sinudeity!!!

Smaiza - WCape created 100,000 new jobs, while the rest of South Africa LOST a million jobs. The stupid ANC doesnt know how to create jobs.

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You always liar just to protect lousy DA...... WC lost 30000 jobs, were did they created this 100 000 new jobs.
The number of unemployed persons decreased by 56 000 between the 1st and 2nd quarters of
2012 after increasing by 282 000 persons in the previous quarter. Compared to a year ago, the
number of unemployed persons decreased by 68 000.
Compared to the 1st quarter of 2012, the unemployment rate decreased in four of the nine
provinces in the 2nd quarter of 2012. The biggest decrease in the unemployment rate was
observed in Limpopo (1,7 percentage points), Mpumalanga (1,4 percentage points) and
KwaZulu-Natal (0,7 of a percentage point).

Then where is W.Cape?
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Oct 16, 2012

!!!Sinudeity!!!

Smaiza - Where did you get your stats from? The monthly ANC newsletter?

In agriculture, 45 000 new jobs were created in the Western Cape during the first quarter.
In trade, 11 000 new jobs were created in the Western Cape during the first quarter.
In the transport sector, 14 000 new jobs were created in the Western Cape during the first quarter.
In the finance sector, 30 000 new jobs were created in the Western Cape during the first quarter.

Unemployment rates of provinces:
Western Cape: 19.7%
Rest of ANC provinces combined: 28%
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Oct 16, 2012

Sipho2001

no wonder these people are so fat.

more tax increases comming.
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Oct 16, 2012

lerotse

They are moes "POLOTICIANS" and not administrators.What do you expect from Angy Motshekga.
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Oct 16, 2012

MommaC

TJO, no wonder they are all so blerrie fat
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Oct 16, 2012

mjimara

This is how a banana Republic operates!
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Oct 16, 2012

FarCeSpotter

Pigs at the trough.

Now what has the department of defence contributed to this country. Fackal. Yet they have to carry the costs for Zuma's wifes traveling all over.

Dis lekker hier in die nuwe Suid Afrika, neh!
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Oct 16, 2012

Days

The reason why they are partying is because they can not see the joblessness, poverty, corruption and discrimination happening on the ground because they leave in high class and middle class areas while the people they claim to represent have been forgotten in rural and informal settlement areas. That includes Blade who seem to have forgotten about socialism now that the mouth is full of goodies.
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Oct 16, 2012

Mndende

My word this government has lost touch for sure!!!!!! Their only priority is lining up their pockets and b.ig stomachs..
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Oct 16, 2012

Mndende

Why am I not surprised that that arrogant Sisulu gal has overspent....? Its so like her...She just learnt zilch from her parents.....
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Oct 17, 2012

Ndele01

The black people of this country need to change if they want a better governed country - by voting for another political party. The whites have no role to play - they are only 8% of the country. Any black person who cannot see that this country will be bankrupt in 10 years, is plain blind. We have more problems today than during Apartheid - whether we have the intelligence to see this today or not. In today's modern world, we Africans still want to resolve all issues through bloodshed (look Malema and the strikers - this problem is going to escalate out of control in 2 years time). But bloodshed has not helped any African country at all in history - but do we read history ? Oh sorry - we have no education system - so how can we know ? I'm so embarrased these days.
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Oct 17, 2012

Tokolosh

It is only the poorest of the poor that suffer! The fatter the politicians get the les they care. They anyway steel from the people that vote for them, I myself am not going to make that mistake anymore!
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Oct 19, 2012

DogsHit

These guys are funny man, remove those budgets from them and use it for something more permanent that will be useful for years to come!

R194 million for catering = 19 schools or a lot more teachers.
R31.7 million for entertainment = 6 clinics
R4.4 billion for travel and accommodation expenses = 4 HUGE hospitals, or a lot of medical training so we can send the Cubans home.
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Oct 21, 2012

kayzino7

the government is a sham and a disgrace to our society how could they have let this go so bad to worse in such a short time. it's so shocking how the greed increases every year
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Oct 22, 2012

Serene

MommaC
TJO, no wonder they are all so blerrie fat
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even if the meeting is for 30 minutes they get catering..govt ppl like dijo tsa mahala..
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Oct 22, 2012

somaartakeit

ironically all wasteful depts happen to be under performers, please SA vote anc out in 2014 and save our country from the corrupt rats.
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Oct 23, 2012

BraSipho

this idiot ANC goverment must go for the good of all in South Africa.
They are like ticks on an old dog.
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Nov 5, 2012

Militant#1

i knew it...
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Nov 19, 2012

Bongzzah

The next Government should be that of the coalition of opposition parties, led by the DA. We need change people before the country goes down the drain. It is apparent that the ANC comprises of people who lack morals and interest of the country at heart. The opposition should unite and take over from the ANC.
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