THE family of a 94-year-old woman who was raped in front of her two great grandchildren fear for her wellbeing following the withdrawal of a rape charge against the 28-year-old suspect.
Our justice system is killing our nation, really fucked up. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
tpaz
Most of these high profile cases Police are just forced to arrest before they investigate...now look.
You investigate then arrest not other way round. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
maneater
my feeling is that the two grannies were rapped by the same person you get him and you solve both cases. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
oldlady12
Tpaz, unfortunately that is in America. In SA one can get arrested simply on a complaint lodged against you. Cases are remanded for years while the police are investigating. I've always advocated that investigation should come before arrest. It will make our prisons emptier, the small fry will be dealt with quicker, and the courts will have more time to deal with the serious cases. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
asaowe
mambozana
Our justice system is killing our nation, really fucked up.
but DNA has proof beyong reasonable doubt that it not a man, rapist still to be found. Report Abuse
Where are President Zuma haters???? Zuma Parolee is cleared of rape Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
MommaC
Lord-Have-Mercy
....... but not of the housebreaking and robbery. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
mashima?
The SAPS should do their work properly maybe the alleged rapist was at the right place at the right time, because it is clear he has been wanted for other crime related matters. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
PAPARAZ
the guy used the same muti which zuma used when he raped. no wonder they are from the same place. he even cleared the guy despite been a habitual criminal. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
oldlady12
Mashima, or maybe he is just an easy scapegoat because of his record and cops think they can get an easy conviction because everyone always believe that the dude with the record did it. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
ayobaness
this village has a serious problem
mara daai boy yena no no no ke
ya sola i hv strong feeling hes da 1 Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
OmoT
When the investigating officer informed us last week ...The great grandmother was raped in the village in August.
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The positive - at least things appear to be improving. A turn-around time of about 2 months. A nice change from waiting years for forensic results. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
oldlady12
OmoT, don't get too excited. The turnaround time is now faster because forensics only investigate cases now where the cops have a suspect. No suspect, no forensics. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Maratachelete
So,wait when did the do the DNA test since this incident took place two months ago?They actually had a DNA done two months later.Wow,our justice is ailing. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Papgat
Before the perpetrator could be arrested there wasn`t any parade? Is Gogo misleading the public about being rape or the police don`t do their job properly? Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
OmoT
oldlady12
Didn't know about that. Still, how often have we read about cases that took months and months and years just to get results because of backlogs, no staff, inefficiency, nepotism, corruption etc etc?
OmoT, I'm glad for the accused that it was so quick. Imagine having to wait years for results with such a false accusation hanging over your head.
BTW, did you know that the top forensics job in SA is still open because the only person in SA qualified to do it is a white woman, and SAPS refuses to give the position to a white? Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
MGEEZ
"When the investigating officer informed us last week that there was nothing linking the suspect to the rape, gogo has not been well. She took it very bad and it affects her life. She now feels like people will turn against her and think that she was lying and this is not good for her fragile health."
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The woman is indeed old and fragile; it may not be easy for her to remember who committed this crime against her, therefore reasonable people in the community will understand!!! It is a good thing though that the other guy was not the culprit for his sake and his family. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
MGEEZ
@Lord-Have-Mercy
Where are President Zuma haters???? Zuma Parolee is cleared of rape
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You are correct in your assertion above, some of us owe the president an apology for critisizing him unduly. I HEREBY APOLOGISE TO THE PRESIDENT for criticising him unduly in this regard WITHOUT ANY RESEVATIONS Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
madimetsha
ya neh......this is the reason I stopped watching news..........raping of 94 and 84 year olds? what is the fun in the that? a fragile 94 year old? in front of kids nogal? what is this world coming to? my God, are we in the 2dn coming of Soddom and Gomora? Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
A week later, an 84-year-old grandmother was ra.ped in the same vil.lage.
NPA provincial spokesman Natasha Ramkisson confirmed that the charges were withdrawn because Ndlela's DNA did not match the DNA found on the crime scene.
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Did they compare the DNA of both crimes, to find out if it is the same perpertrator or not........ Some things are not rocket science (but unforutnately we talking about Mzansi SAPS) Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@OmoT
oldlady12
Didn't know about that. Still, how often have we read about cases that took months and months and years just to get results because of backlogs, no staff, inefficiency, nepotism, corruption etc etc?
I chose to remain optimistic ;-)
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so true, there are lot of ra.pe cases where the ra.pe kits have not been collected and no forensic testing being done due to "staff shortage, machine not working, the whole shibang........
I guess in grandma's case SAPS, NPA wanted to prove a point......... How I wish all ra.pe cases can be treated with the same sense of urgency...............
The DNA test ruled out the suspect meaning the suspect is innocent , The police must hunt for the real culprit here, Because the suspect was out on parole does not mean he is guilty for rape Police need to do their job. This guy must sue minister nathi Mthethwa. Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
Chichi7
Guilty until proven innocent. South Africa, unlimited possibilities Report Abuse
BTW, did you know that the top forensics job in SA is still open because the only person in SA qualified to do it is a white woman, and SAPS refuses to give the position to a white?
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Just because the woman is white? It sickens me to hear that. That is just DISGUSTING. This is not what affirmative action should be about.
so true, there are lot of ra.pe cases where the ra.pe kits have not been collected and no forensic testing being done due to "staff shortage, machine not working, the whole shibang........
It is soooo simple. If they are so intent on giving only blacks the job...
1) Identify only the very best black bio-sciences students (Grade A students and not a politician's brother/child/friend etc). They must sign a return of service contract for e.g. 5 years
2) Send them overseas for training/Hire the best forensic experts and bring them here
3) Train the students
4) Set benchmarks - minimum of x tests to be completed accurately per day/week/month. bonuses can apply if they exceed the benchmarks.
5) In the meantime, fill the current vacancies with anyone who is qualified - even if they are white. God knows there is enough work for everyone in this crime ridden country.
6) Days of backlogs over
This is totaly insane, how can a normal 20 something guy rape an elderly gogo. Shame on our justice system Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
knobkirrie
Obviusly the solution is our use of DNA, but it can be flawed and contaminated and let the culprit free, not that Ndlela dont deserve his freedom, but as the saying goes: Water always find its level. Why was Ndlela a suspect in the first place? Report Abuse
Oct 16, 2012
nalita
I wonder how he felt when he raped just an old lady.sis Report Abuse
Oct 17, 2012
jerico
what we about is pure hell in our everyday life. Report Abuse
Oct 17, 2012
jerico
what we read about is pure hll in our everyday life. Report Abuse
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mambozana
Our justice system is killing our nation, really fucked up.Report Abuse
tpaz
Most of these high profile cases Police are just forced to arrest before they investigate...now look.You investigate then arrest not other way round.
Report Abuse
maneater
my feeling is that the two grannies were rapped by the same person you get him and you solve both cases.Report Abuse
oldlady12
Tpaz, unfortunately that is in America. In SA one can get arrested simply on a complaint lodged against you. Cases are remanded for years while the police are investigating. I've always advocated that investigation should come before arrest. It will make our prisons emptier, the small fry will be dealt with quicker, and the courts will have more time to deal with the serious cases.Report Abuse
asaowe
mambozanaOur justice system is killing our nation, really fucked up.
but DNA has proof beyong reasonable doubt that it not a man, rapist still to be found.
Report Abuse
guiliano
Ndlela should sue the police.Report Abuse
Lord-Have-Mercy
Where are President Zuma haters???? Zuma Parolee is cleared of rapeReport Abuse
MommaC
Lord-Have-Mercy....... but not of the housebreaking and robbery.
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mashima?
The SAPS should do their work properly maybe the alleged rapist was at the right place at the right time, because it is clear he has been wanted for other crime related matters.Report Abuse
PAPARAZ
the guy used the same muti which zuma used when he raped. no wonder they are from the same place. he even cleared the guy despite been a habitual criminal.Report Abuse
oldlady12
Mashima, or maybe he is just an easy scapegoat because of his record and cops think they can get an easy conviction because everyone always believe that the dude with the record did it.Report Abuse
ayobaness
this village has a serious problemmara daai boy yena no no no ke
ya sola i hv strong feeling hes da 1
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OmoT
When the investigating officer informed us last week ...The great grandmother was raped in the village in August.------------------------------------------
The positive - at least things appear to be improving. A turn-around time of about 2 months. A nice change from waiting years for forensic results.
Report Abuse
oldlady12
OmoT, don't get too excited. The turnaround time is now faster because forensics only investigate cases now where the cops have a suspect. No suspect, no forensics.Report Abuse
Maratachelete
So,wait when did the do the DNA test since this incident took place two months ago?They actually had a DNA done two months later.Wow,our justice is ailing.Report Abuse
Papgat
Before the perpetrator could be arrested there wasn`t any parade? Is Gogo misleading the public about being rape or the police don`t do their job properly?Report Abuse
OmoT
oldlady12Didn't know about that. Still, how often have we read about cases that took months and months and years just to get results because of backlogs, no staff, inefficiency, nepotism, corruption etc etc?
I chose to remain optimistic ;-)
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oldlady12
OmoT, I'm glad for the accused that it was so quick. Imagine having to wait years for results with such a false accusation hanging over your head.BTW, did you know that the top forensics job in SA is still open because the only person in SA qualified to do it is a white woman, and SAPS refuses to give the position to a white?
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MGEEZ
"When the investigating officer informed us last week that there was nothing linking the suspect to the rape, gogo has not been well. She took it very bad and it affects her life. She now feels like people will turn against her and think that she was lying and this is not good for her fragile health."=======================================================================
The woman is indeed old and fragile; it may not be easy for her to remember who committed this crime against her, therefore reasonable people in the community will understand!!! It is a good thing though that the other guy was not the culprit for his sake and his family.
Report Abuse
MGEEZ
@Lord-Have-MercyWhere are President Zuma haters???? Zuma Parolee is cleared of rape
==========================================================================
You are correct in your assertion above, some of us owe the president an apology for critisizing him unduly. I HEREBY APOLOGISE TO THE PRESIDENT for criticising him unduly in this regard WITHOUT ANY RESEVATIONS
Report Abuse
madimetsha
ya neh......this is the reason I stopped watching news..........raping of 94 and 84 year olds? what is the fun in the that? a fragile 94 year old? in front of kids nogal? what is this world coming to? my God, are we in the 2dn coming of Soddom and Gomora?Report Abuse
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
A week later, an 84-year-old grandmother was ra.ped in the same vil.lage.NPA provincial spokesman Natasha Ramkisson confirmed that the charges were withdrawn because Ndlela's DNA did not match the DNA found on the crime scene.
**********************************************************************************************888
Did they compare the DNA of both crimes, to find out if it is the same perpertrator or not........ Some things are not rocket science (but unforutnately we talking about Mzansi SAPS)
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MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@OmoToldlady12
Didn't know about that. Still, how often have we read about cases that took months and months and years just to get results because of backlogs, no staff, inefficiency, nepotism, corruption etc etc?
I chose to remain optimistic ;-)
*********************************************************************************************************8
so true, there are lot of ra.pe cases where the ra.pe kits have not been collected and no forensic testing being done due to "staff shortage, machine not working, the whole shibang........
I guess in grandma's case SAPS, NPA wanted to prove a point......... How I wish all ra.pe cases can be treated with the same sense of urgency...............
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Moeshe
The world must just come to the end already. this is too much. nxReport Abuse
BlackSeed
I blame society for this; they always quick to jump to conclusion.Some even suggested mob violence?
Now, imagine your heads in government? Disaster still
Yet you are quick to see the faults of others
Anyway, i wonder if Ndlela will ever remember what happened?
Police will always find a way to calm society
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Skopokopo
Where are the CI investigators?Report Abuse
Phathuza
The DNA test ruled out the suspect meaning the suspect is innocent , The police must hunt for the real culprit here, Because the suspect was out on parole does not mean he is guilty for rape Police need to do their job. This guy must sue minister nathi Mthethwa.Report Abuse
Chichi7
Guilty until proven innocent. South Africa, unlimited possibilitiesReport Abuse
Msiphos00
Alive with possibilitiesReport Abuse
OmoT
oldlady12BTW, did you know that the top forensics job in SA is still open because the only person in SA qualified to do it is a white woman, and SAPS refuses to give the position to a white?
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Just because the woman is white? It sickens me to hear that. That is just DISGUSTING. This is not what affirmative action should be about.
Report Abuse
OmoT
MsKinkyakaKamaSutraso true, there are lot of ra.pe cases where the ra.pe kits have not been collected and no forensic testing being done due to "staff shortage, machine not working, the whole shibang........
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Poor governance, bad management.
It is soooo simple. If they are so intent on giving only blacks the job...
1) Identify only the very best black bio-sciences students (Grade A students and not a politician's brother/child/friend etc). They must sign a return of service contract for e.g. 5 years
2) Send them overseas for training/Hire the best forensic experts and bring them here
3) Train the students
4) Set benchmarks - minimum of x tests to be completed accurately per day/week/month. bonuses can apply if they exceed the benchmarks.
5) In the meantime, fill the current vacancies with anyone who is qualified - even if they are white. God knows there is enough work for everyone in this crime ridden country.
6) Days of backlogs over
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Bra_NeatDick
Who did he pay?Report Abuse
Lecharma
This is totaly insane, how can a normal 20 something guy rape an elderly gogo. Shame on our justice systemReport Abuse
knobkirrie
Obviusly the solution is our use of DNA, but it can be flawed and contaminated and let the culprit free, not that Ndlela dont deserve his freedom, but as the saying goes: Water always find its level. Why was Ndlela a suspect in the first place?Report Abuse
nalita
I wonder how he felt when he raped just an old lady.sisReport Abuse
jerico
what we about is pure hell in our everyday life.Report Abuse
jerico
what we read about is pure hll in our everyday life.Report Abuse
MorenaWaPolelo
Whaow!!!! what happend here!!!Report Abuse
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