Grade 7 pupils could start receiving condoms at school today as the Health Ministry yesterday officially launched the much-talked about Integrated School Health Programme.
The health screening is fine but making condoms available to pupils is nonsense. Here is a failed government taking the easy way out. An impressionable child will think that it is a licence to become sexually active. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Mdala
It is fine because these school kids b0nk like rats if I may say so they even make o.r.g.y videos like the one that made rounds last year Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Tobby
This so called Motsoaledi must get his facts right, how can he say children should be supplied with condoms, anyway what suprises me because he is a man. He obviously is in love with a school girl so he is actually preparing for himself that devil. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Chichi7
health screening yes but condoms, hel no. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Tobby
Motsoaledi and Zuma and the ones that bonk school children so as the minister of health and the presiedent of the country, who can say what to them?? Nothing. Nxxxxx sis. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
maneater
not too comfortable with the idea but hey if its going to save 1 childs life or prevent 1 unwanted pregnancy i say let get on with it. Report Abuse
@maneater - it will have negative effects - more pregnancies and more disease if more kids start having sex at an early age. The condom is not 100% reliable in preventing disease and pregnancy. And when do you think these kids will have sex and where. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Shredder
I hear you Mr Motsoaledi. I had a thorough talk with my niece about abstinence(though she was uncomfortable), I didn't tell her to use the condoms I told her to play as far away as possible from the boys. I told her about even these shooting of videos thing. Now the ball is in her court. It is up to her to make her decision, if she doesn't take heed to the uncle's words and do it her own way. She won't have to say anybody I had no one to talk to. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Wanani
Lets start a petition guys. I am totally against taking condoms to schools, are we giving them condoms so that they can have sex? Are we saying go do it and do it safely? Cant parents do this themselves? Is the Health department sharing parents responsibilities with parents? Government failed dismally. Report Abuse
sure health screaming is fine, i received health screaming at the private school i used to go to, but at that age i never understood y, my guidance teacher kept on asking me if some was touching me at places they shouldn't i kept giving her the awkward look, only later to find out that there is something called sexual abuse and the school had a policy to protect its learners....The Minister must do this where there are majority of black people and schools because those ppl are not exposed to such privileges especially girls must know about using contraceptives and morning after pills and those black schools do not teach sex education, BUMMER Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
I understand what and where the Ministry of health is coming from, if parents themselves fail to teach their children about sex education, what do expect they should learn about it, true in schools where they spent most of their time......remember government is for the people therefore if you cant’s take care of your ‘tarty’ girl child who opens her legs to every boy the state will do it on your behalf Report Abuse
he did not say sex at school
he was just condoning safe sex to pupils
especially those who r active Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
2shy2call
Grade 7? Grade 7? Le pipinyana tsa bona di li zwinka mogare ga condom. Promotion of early sex. Ya teacher will b0nk them and say you have sex is official with our government. See they are giving condoms for what? Are those kids not under age?
Will this not be a promoting of Statutory Rape? Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@2shy
jerrr, i suggest mense must do law101, statutory rape is where refer to sexual activities in which one person is below the age required to legally consent to the behavior. Although it usually refers to adults engaging in sex with minors under the age of consent, it is a generic term, and very few jurisdictions use the actual term "statutory rape" in the language of statutes....we do not have such law is South Africa Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Lord-Have-Mercy
its not going down well but for the sake of protecting kids im okay, @ least they will have Condom Usage Experience (CUE) when they reach 20's
Remember former President Thabo Mbeki passed the law of a 12year old female to have abortion without parents knowledge. How on earth can an African Rennaisance person pass that law but
i sensed Illuminati forcing immoral laws to the society including homos, abortions etc
Lets get over our selves kids do have s.e.x and this is not going to stop, is high time as parents we engage and let them know about the s.e.x results and responsibity. We need to accept that being a parent is hader these days!!! Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Shredder
@THEmadame2B-BBEE
sure health screaming is fine, i received health screaming at the private school
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Good morning my dear sweet madam to be.
Tell me what the hell is the "health screaming"? Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Mxaueht
Are we giving them condoms so that they can have sex? Are we saying go do it and do it safely? Cant parents do this themselves? Is the Health department sharing parents responsibilities with parents? Government failed dismally.
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This is a top down approach which will have severe consequencies I am telling you. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Flemza
Health Minister Aaron Motsoaledi you are loosing it here , do u want to turn schools into brothels now , you can not give out condoms and expect them not to be used, please let schools be used for learning , not for sex education , I`m just glad I went for vaspectomy and my last born son won`t be exposed to this madness , we are going back to M.beki`s error now , were all the dirty things and rights were given to kids , where in African culture have you seen a kid motivated to have sex , we are slowly turing into western culture and I can`t believe this , were is our Ubuthu here Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
nkwahh
Owh bawo, condomin bags hehh, thoz teachers who like to bonk students wil be so happy abt dis sis Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
McCountryMan
maybe the Teacher ba tlagole go Ja bana Ba sekolo sonor, Ba pakile bana ba le bona man Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Shredder
My teacher once told not send her an essay before I had read it ten times myself if it makes sense, i suggest you do the same concerning your comments.
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Do you know anything about curiosity, you can’t expect your niece to still play away form boys, until when....eventually curiosity will kick in and then what, instead you should had told her about precautionary measures like she must use a morning after pill if the condom breaks or use a condom or if she is sexually active she must use contraceptive to prevent t unwanted pregnancies...and for interest sake MALOME LEAVE UR NIECE ALONE
Hello All
I think that we need to face the reality that children engage in sex from a very young age. The bigger problem is that parents fail to talk to their children about such matters. So, yes, the government- as the ultimate custodian of our children needed to do something about this. Surely if a 12-yr old can engage in sex(wrong as this is) then he must be given a condom/contraceptive. This in my view is not condoning the act itself but it is a proactive measure taken by our government to protect children from unwanted pregnancies and/or diseases. Ours is a society where an average parent plays very little role in directing his/her child. Parents do wrong things in front of their children. Parents fail to talk to their children about important things in life and then they want to moan when the government initiates measures such as this. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
PUPU
kids are only safe when they covered by the blood of JESUS condoms will never be the solution kids must know that sex is not for them untill they are married full stop.People must come to realise that the solution
to this WORLD problems is with GOD by excepting JESUS AS LORD AND SAVIOUR. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
MorenaWaPolelo
McCountryMan
maybe the Teacher ba tlagole go Ja bana Ba sekolo sonor, Ba pakile bana ba le bona man
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You are out of order have decipline, tlogela bana dipotsonono di teng mos!!! Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Tobby
Buc4life if you are a woman, YOU'VE REALLY DISSAPOINTED ME, how can you talk like that, i doubt you are in love with a married man and you're still young. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Virgin.after.sex
@Wanani...but these kids are having sex anyway, so it's better if they have it safely. They are not even scared of AIDS, it's scary. I know a 16 year old who had 3 abortions. What's better? contracting diseases & having kids whilst they're still kids themselves??? But then again, history repeats itself because most of these children's mothers became sexually active at a young age and had them in their teens. So how do you expect a young mother to teach her daughter about abstinence & responsible sex when she is still has to grow up herself. So yes, let Health dept share the responsibility. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
candilious
Pointman
The health screening is fine but making condoms available to pupils is nonsense. Here is a failed government taking the easy way out. An impressionable child will think that it is a licence to become sexually active.
_____________________100% correct how f$$%%ken blerrie stupid can one be.
How about appointing qaulified teachers whom can teach the children this .Back in the day we home Economics ,Bible Classes ,Biology that use to teach us the basics of life .Which our New Gvmt so richly removed and cahange the sylibuss where teachers dont even understand
We truly live in a confucked country run by idots............... Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Nongoloza24
There's nothing wrong in giving them condoms those children have sex at an early age. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Lord-Have-Mercy
@Wanani
Lets start a petition guys. I am totally against taking condoms to schools, are we giving them condoms so that they can have sex? Are we saying go do it and do it safely? Cant parents do this themselves? Is the Health department sharing parents responsibilities with parents? Government failed dismally.
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most of these kids dont have parents, parents died of AIDS
@Pointman
@maneater - it will have negative effects - more pregnancies and more disease if more kids start having sex at an early age. The condom is not 100% reliable in preventing disease and pregnancy. And when do you think these kids will have sex and where.
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they are having sex already or how would you explain a large number of tenage pregnancies? yes the condom is not 100% but it has been proven to reduce the chances of contracting deseases and unwanted pregnancies. i am not saying that they should be encouraged but because we are unable to stop them we must empower them to make better choices. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
DJ-Winner
There is nothing wrong with provision of condoms because kids are fcuking anyway. I don't see how this will encourage kids to fcuk. It will only protect them... Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Virgin.after.sex
@Wanani... Please Start a petition for a death penalty and willy chopping of rapists. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
MUFARO
Nongoloza24
There's nothing wrong in giving them condoms those children have sex at an early age
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O PARI PARI WENA TOKO YA GO SESI. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Mosquer
Some people's thoughts. hai SA is rotten Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Seja-Bana
its amaizing, in our times, we didn't know that a school kid is acive sexually. but nawadays. it is public, they don't even ashamed of saying lets give them condoms. everyone knows that condoms are made fo sex. nothing else, this simply means they are encouraging the learners to bonk one another. i am disappointed about the current leadership in general. starting from the pres. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Voetzek
This kak is Taboo at the highest degree, the school is it meant for sex or education, sies Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
mbondo
Thanks God my wifeis from Botswana, when my children reach puberty stage I'll take them to Botswana to get educated there not this crap SA education where they f*ck children both boys and girls. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Voeszek, moeskond o Bari my chap.....what the fck what do you think biology is about*mitosis* Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Vongsta
How do you issue condoms to grade 7 pupil? its our responsibility as parent and teachers to teach our kids to abstain not give them condoms......... what will this programes they introduce include? Eish.....phela a grade 7 pupil is still primary................ Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Nongoloza24
MUFARO
Nongoloza24
There's nothing wrong in giving them condoms those children have sex at an early age
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O PARI PARI WENA TOKO YA GO SESI.
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Heee wena jou moer why would Mr Mbeki say a 12 year old could abort if these children were not facking huh? Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Zabaragast
Make condoms available to them, it should get parents talking to their kids about sex with the way the programme is planned, which is about damn time. Burrying our heads in the sand and pretending these kids are not having sex is only opening them up to unwanted pregnancies and desease. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
letwadi
While stil at it, why not give them dvd copies of "How to impregnate a friends daughter and how to rape an old friend's daughter and use a shower, they will go hand in hand with the condoms, don't you mr Pres? Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Bubah
I support goverment 100%. I am now 36 and a grandfather already. My firstborn daugther, who is now 14 years old has a baby boy. They must start to give condoms at schools, grade 7 pupils are already doing sex at early age. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Buc4life
letwadi
While stil at it, why not give them dvd copies of "How to impregnate a friends daughter and how to rape an old friend's daughter and use a shower, they will go hand in hand with the condoms, don't you mr Pres?
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Hello there.
You cannot blame Zuma for every social ill. Lets be put it on record that I do not like Zuma, but blaming him for everything will only worsen things. In this instance, parents are to blame.
What are condoms doing at school? What are they promoting to these kids? Health screening is a must but Condoms is a NO NO Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Vongsta
Bubah
I support goverment 100%. I am now 36 and a grandfather already. My firstborn daugther, who is now 14 years old has a baby boy. They must start to give condoms at schools, grade 7 pupils are already doing sex at early age.
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Did you try to talk to your daughter about sex before? Did you check the company of friends she keeps? do you spent time with her to understand her dreams, ambitions and standards? Did you help her with her homework? did you want to know how was school and what challenges she was going through? Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Lord-Have-Mercy
To all bloggers
What age did you start having sex? remember Hide and seek how old were you? Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Danielrjvvuren
Look I think this is an amazing idea on paper. We must move from being a government that reacts to a government that acts. Isn't the ethical theory of responsibility vs responsiveness the key here. Deal with the problem rather than the outcome. Educate the kids show them how to use and when to use give them the precautionary measures but above all teach them the outcomes. Not just social problems with having a child but the financial also. Good initiative but must be done right. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Vongsta
Its not only a mother's responsibility to take care of kids, it takes to good parents. Ihave noticed that we don't have time for our kids, most of us even during the week are found in clubs, restuarants and offices. We overwork ourselves for positions and power. Eish, its hard for kids bafowethu. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
DrunkenMaster
Typical South Africans this is not only about condoms, but rather it is an Intergrated School Health Programme which focuses on various issues like substance abuse, teenage pregnancy, suicide e.t.c Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Vongsta
Danielrjvvuren
Look I think this is an amazing idea on paper. We must move from being a government that reacts to a government that acts. Isn't the ethical theory of responsibility vs responsiveness the key here. Deal with the problem rather than the outcome. Educate the kids show them how to use and when to use give them the precautionary measures but above all teach them the outcomes. Not just social problems with having a child but the financial also. Good initiative but must be done right.
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As a parent, you push morals and social behaviour onto your children from birth to about 14. After that you just hope that it stuck and they are still afraid of you. You can't follow them around 24/7 and you can't force them to have brain cells. The best you can do is hope that, if they are going to play 'big people' games, then they will take 'big people' precautions.
I was extremely lucky with my kids but anybody who ever says "My children would never ....." has not gone through the teen years yet. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Danielrjvvuren
Vongsta
Thanks. Heaven forbid if I find a boy in my 14 year old sisters bed, but I would rather have an awkward conversation about a boy in the bed then a bun in the oven. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Nongoloza24
Bubah
I support goverment 100%. I am now 36 and a grandfather already. My firstborn daugther, who is now 14 years old has a baby boy. They must start to give condoms at schools, grade 7 pupils are already doing sex at early age.
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kikikikikikkikkiikikikiki are you sure you not the father kikikikikikikikikiki o sa etsa o jele stoko monna kikikikikikikikiki Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Done!
Well, I believe supplying condoms at school will not bring or encourage students to have sex, look these students they will need a place to engage themself in this activity and chanses are less that they can do sex in school premises and Should they practice sex than atleast it is a protected one ( since many of them they cant afford to buy condoms), so I rather do protected sex at "that age" than to do unprotected sex at a much older ages! so the bottom line is it is better to protect than to cure!!
Yes, my daugher matured at 9( started to see moons). She is always No 01 at school and she is doing Physics and Maths. She is doing Drade 10 now. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
lenyora13
lets stop be naive.. high school children will have sex whether gona le di condom or not.. lets encourage save and responsible behaviour.. it mite reduce number teen preg.. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
cocolucho
When I was 13, my told me about periods and that once I start getting my periods, I could fall pregnant just by being around boys. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
MOKOPANEDUDE
U cant force them 2 use condoms by supplying them at school and that means govt ran out of ideas on how to reinforce biding laws to discipline pupil and make them realise that is learning environment not other way around,this s not the first generation to be at school we were there also,pls come with better which is academic related not this condom nonsense Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
spekepeke1
They don't deliver textbooks but deliver condoms.... Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
swona
chances are that my son who is in grade 5 this year will also get a pocket with ten doms, are 100%! weldone Mr Minister, guess I will have to get ready to explain when must he use them to him! Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
T.C.T
so our children are being thought about sex in schools now they are being told to do homeworks alsoo....maybe the intension is good.....if parents dont want condoms then they must teach there children to wear appropriate school uniforms that covers theres a,sses phela ba re lomisaa Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Skopokopo
Morning All
Sweetyk my love i miss you, where are you my frendo. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Blackstone.lebs
Sexual activity in underage children is there and has always been there. It's every parent's resposibility to teach and guide his/her children on this subject, raising a child is a full time job that needs a committed parent. There will always be elements (at school, church, sports teams, playground) that will tell your child otherwise and government is only putting preventative measures in place to assist in such instances, focusing in schools.
I do not believe that nurses at schools will just dish out condoms without advicing the recipients on dangers associated with underage sex. When all is said and done, it's you as a parent that will deal with what your child brings home after engaging in underage sex, whether it's a baby or std's. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Tubetsiii
12 yr old is allowed to have an abortion, why not???????????????? Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
mahlalela
Mr Motsoaledi you are realy misleading our young brother and sister by allowing them to have sex anytime and even at school......This mechanisms is destroying the dignity of eductaion in our country. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
cocolucho
Its a good idea and I support it,only condition is that only the nurses be able to hand it out so that should they want to engage in $€x then they get counselled first. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
KGS000
@Buck4life
I think that we need to face the reality that children engage in sex from a very young age. The bigger problem is that parents fail to talk to their children about such matters. So, yes, the government- as the ultimate custodian of our children needed to do something about this. Surely if a 12-yr old can engage in sex(wrong as this is) then he must be given a condom/contraceptive. This in my view is not condoning the act itself but it is a proactive measure taken by our government to protect children from unwanted pregnancies and/or diseases. Ours is a society where an average parent plays very little role in directing his/her child. Parents do wrong things in front of their children. Parents fail to talk to their children about important things in life and then they want to moan when the government initiates measures such as this.
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Well said my sister I agree 100% Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Bubah
The goverment is not forcing our children to take condoms, but our kids are already engaged to sex. Is it goverment or parents who failed to do their work? Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
edna
I dont know whether it's a good idea or what but i have a bad feeling about this. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
malemaforpresident
Motswaledi to also illustrate to the school kids how to use a condom with his own d.ick Siiis Nxaaa Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Shredder
@THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Shredder
My teacher once told not send her an essay before I had read it ten times myself if it makes sense, i suggest you do the same concerning your comments.
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Do you know anything about curiosity, you can’t expect your niece to still play away form boys, until when....eventually curiosity will kick in and then what, instead you should had told her about precautionary measures like she must use a morning after pill
.and for interest sake MALOME LEAVE UR NIECE ALONE
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Morning after pill does not prevent contraction of HIV. Leave her alone? Don't you think that leaving her alone is irresponsibility? Of course I a not going to police her. Don't you think by talking to her shows love? Think my sister think.
Look even at University there are no condoms to be found. I walked into my lecture venue finding a couple in coupe de' grace right there. Now I had lectures in there and they had no business doing their business in there but the point is there is no condoms available making the chances of "drop-outs" so much more a reality. Action rather than reaction Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
bytheway1
I understand that it may help, but I cannot help but to ask what have become of our society? Values is down the drain... no respect whatsoever for nothing and nobody! Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Shredder
@THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Shredder
My teacher once told not send her an essay before I had read it ten times myself if it makes sense, i suggest you do the same concerning your comments.
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Health Scream suggests I must read my comments ten times. LOL Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
DA-DBN-GUY
Wow the useless anc cant supply books to schools but will readily provide condoms???? WTF is wrong with the anc hoestly? Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Voetzek
@THEmadame2B-BBEE
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yoo get ur act together and act responsible, these teachers chaps are impreganating our kids at school and what message these guys are potraying buy giving condoms, Tzek Report Abuse
@danielrjvvuren
At my varsity we have condoms in the bathrooms,but I've never found people getting kinky in class...they probably did it for the thrill of getting caught,it can be fun ;)..lol Report Abuse
Do this ministers have children? Couldn't they have done more research on how to reduce teenage pregnancy and HIV? Giving this kids condoms it's just directly saying have sex. Condoms do burst and most of them wouldn't know how to use condoms. I still say they must abstain and concentrate on their school work cause sex and education do not mix at all Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
funza
To give condoms to a standard 5 kid is an evil short cut to life's lesson. The people who pass these laws or whatever they call them, do they ever stop and think what disastrous impact these things have in the society. It would be more proper for you Minister to say, there is a well thought strategy to inform children about the stage they are in life and not impose on them that they should start having sex by using condoms because there are some who do it. Some children are still children but some are wild but do we assume the standard of the wild and impose it on the normal children.
Kindly be advised that there is no short cut in bringing up a child, Parents and health educators should seat down and educate chlidren about how they should be progressing in life, not taking extreme behaviuor and making it normal.Of course this takes time, we cannot hurry when it comes to children Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Danielrjvvuren
cocolucho
You would think UKZN would have condoms but NOOOOO. This couple was busy with falacio and all. Me being a ginger blushed so badly I radiated heat and they just stood there looking at me looking at them for 5 seconds before I turned around and excused my rude interruption. On exit I realized that they are the wrong party here proceeded to kick the door open and demanded that they go. Was a funny time but really there are many empty spots to go do that... haha
strongly disagree with want the government it means they are say its right to engage in sex at an early age why not educate them in the dangers of sti as those condoms they will use them for a while and other times they wont as our kids like to experiment Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
16-12-1838
Hope they don't staple the instructions through them again?
Oh and while they are at it, they might as well give them a joint or a half-jack so they don't have to buy these things either. I suppose it is much easier than attempting to educate them! Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Gabha
What are condoms for? If I'm giving you a condom what are my expectation? What am I asking you to do? This Zulu culture also came up when Mr. President was accused of rape so I'm not sure what to learn from it. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Danielrjvvuren
People there must be education with the handing out of a condom. If you do not educate the kids they would think them very weird looking wet balloons. Are you lot so naive to think they just handing out condoms without teaching them what it is all about. Done the right way prevention is better than the outcome without don't you guys agree. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
tipiyamokwatajwalajwabatswana
oh no am i drunk?mxm la hlanyadikontomo ko baneng? Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
sh!tFaceSamsung
I fully agree with te minister : condom & contraceptives is a way to go for now : Report Abuse
Shredder
Blekserm!!! this name above.
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wat name??? Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
DA-DBN-GUY
Danielrjvvuren
Giving out condoms to Grade 7 is NOT the answer. Rather teach a proper sex education course to the pupils and implement harsher sexual assault sentences. You should not even be thinking of having sex while you in school but unfortunately some cultures cant help themselves. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Sfefenyana
I am also totally against taking condoms to school,school is a learning place where our children will learn nt about sex bt education.By taking condoms to schools,we encourage more sex @ school en we will c poor education performance Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
sh!tFaceSamsung
tipiyamokwatajwalajwabatswana
dis name hahahahahahahahahaha remind me some of funky names mentioned below
tsolaborokgo
seropemperekele
shushumelang Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Danielrjvvuren
DA-DBN-GUY
But education must be given. You cant blindly hand out condoms and not have a talk with it. Don't make this a racial or cultural debate sex in schools are a universal issue not just stuck to one culture so none of that. Prevention is the cure. Teach the kids every aspect of sex and the outcomes. From Financial STDS and social problems with having a child. We can not turn a blind eye and saying kids are having sex it would be ignorant. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
Grade 7 pupils have to utilize contraceptives,how old are they? Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Shredder
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i've heard plenty of stories of what bo Malome do to their nieces, shiet, already picking your victim, o sleg maan, leave it to her aunts to talk to her about her body
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Oct 12, 2012
sh!tFaceSamsung
DA-DBN-GUY
we hav to face te reality umsholosi is right when he says some of these kids are sexually active : n parents seems not knowing how to deal with it : besides that te statistic shows very well that in msanzi teenage pragnancy is escalating high & high day by day Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
DA-DBN-GUY
Danielrjvvuren
Unfortunately it is predominant in certain cultures and race groups and that is a fact that needs to be taken into consideration. The old apratheid government never had such programs. I was 15 when i first found out about condoms. By handing out condoms the anc are condoning under age sex. There are also religious issues that need to be taken into consideration and I feel the government should be consulting with parents instead of merely starting a program of this nature. Handing out condoms is tantamount to putting a plaster on an open gash that requires stitches. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Danielrjvvuren
DA-DBN-GUY
I am with you on the education aspect. Educate the students first about sex and ALL it entails but not handing out condoms has worse outcomes than rather having it and not needing it that needing and not having. We where taught about condoms Gr8 13-14 years and yes we laughed about it and yes we didn't know all but we where taught out of an...wait for it... textbook from 1984. An apartheid book! It was denied to some races but I think proper education with these condoms could help. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Tsar-Rasputin
Condoms must be accessible to all South Africans who are likely to engage in a sexual activity, whether 15 or 51 years old. The main purpose of availing them is to prevent unwanted pregnancy as, sexual tranmitted dieases and HIV Aids.
During marathons, I see water station filled with water, but it does not necessary means all the runner will drink the available water!!!!
Furthermore distribution of condoms will reduce and/or eliminate teenage pregnancy and dependency on children’s grants
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I find it annoying too! Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Popeye
Nakho-ke futhi…you are turning our schools a Sodom and Gomorra. My daughter is only 9yrs old…she knows nothing about condoms…huh. This Zuma cabinet is planting the wrong seed to this generation…these condoms will only be distributed to townships/rural schools…not at Hoer skools. Concerned parent…let us pray……amen. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Tsar-Rasputin
Popeye, dont be naive.
She is playing hide and seek. You know what u were doing when you were playing the game!!! Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Danielrjvvuren
Help out here is Hide and Seek like playing doctor or whats going on there? I'm amiss to what that is? I know white kids play doctor to explore but what is that then? Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
DeOvi
Honeybadger
Shredder
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I find it annoying too!
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Oct 12, 2012
Honeybadger
This kids are screwing each other anyway; so the govt might as well assist by giving condoms. We cant pretend its not happening. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Winilen
The health screening is fine but making condoms available to grade 7 pupils is bu.ll sh.it mxm. Dirty teachers now will find it easy to sleep with young girls. Report Abuse
ai aii ai aiaiaiaiaiaiaiaiaia tse ke mathata nagana fela o kgumana di condom kagare ga school bag Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Honeybadger
MOLORI
ai aii ai aiaiaiaiaiaiaiaiaia tse ke mathata nagana fela o kgumana di condom kagare ga school bag
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yaa. Then you know your child may not be bringing your granddaughter soon. And the prevalence of HIV amongst this high school kids today hai man. A relative who is an MD was telling me how high it is amongst the 14-23 years old. So please let them have condoms if it will help reduce the scourge. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Nzumbululo
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Oct 12, 2012
Popeye
@Tsar-Rasputin
Popeye, dont be naive.
She is playing hide and seek. You know what u were doing when you were playing the game!!!
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Whoa…whoa mnumzane. I don’t care about hide and seek…my concern is these condoms that will be allocated in our schools…uyabona manje. What are they going to teach our kids…condoms, condoms, condoms…just like pimples, pimples pimples. Hai maan wake up brother. Do you have kids? If not don’t comment Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
mathonsimp
I think we have to approach the issue in a positive way. Pupils from grade 7 are sleeping already and this is a fact. Why it is bed to encourage them to do it safe. The minister is not giving them licence s to do it but doing it safe. Parents failed to protect these kids from pregnancy because we protect them too much to talk to them about this kind of staff. Teenage pregnancies were and still a problem during my time at high school. We need to stop this. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
MakgwebelakaKokoYaManoti!
Bana ba banyane bana le bo na ba se ba tseba ho betena,grade 7. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
ntyantya
Instead of supplying condoms why don't they call people who had kids whilst at school and people who are living with HIV or just one day take them tro hospitals or hospice Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Shredder
Spooky names are creeping up today, another one just above ntyantya. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
malemaforpresident
U see now doing things without proper approach,reseach and finally consultation what do school chilren going to do with condoms at schools the purpose of school buildings is not to store condoms is to teach kids the importance of education and not about the importance of engaging in sexual activities kante teachers ba ruata bana ba totetswe na do they have to engage in sex during short breaks or during lunch time things are getting out of hands giving children rights then offering them condoms this is total madness Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
skwamasamabele
Best solution is the Swedish model. Children as young as 6 learn about sex in school. the problem with SA is sex is not even discussed at home, let alone in school. We have to exticate ourselves from making sex education a taboo, a no go area because as parents we are just too embarrassed to explain it to our children, and to the detriment of our children. We parents are totally responsible, or shall I say irresponsible for youth pregnancies Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
KGS000
@Ntyantya
That won't make a difference, ppl never listen atleast they are arming these kids Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
cornelius
Friggin visionless idi.ots ! This is like inviting the kids to have se.x and the way kids' minds work, they will feel this means it's actuall expected that they do.
The answer is to work hard with moral education to inspire the kids to refrain from se'xual behaviour - kids are just not ready, and it cheapens the whole thing. What excitng thiongs lie ahead for you, if you are already jhaving s.ex at such a young age ?
This is ridiculous - these poe.phols don't know what they are doing. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
WordofGod
giving a condom to a 14 year old!! can he do the same with his kids? nc nc nc Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
KGS000
The kids are having sex already maan and ya'll know it, the gorvenment is making sure its protected sex. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
tmot10
They say having sex with a minor is a crime and yet the condoms are distributed in schools. Don't you think this is a lot contradictory? So if an 18 year old sleeps with a 14 year old, is it not supposed to be a statutory rape?
Well then I think if this country is run by heathens who don't believe what God says, then it is in confusion. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
ChampRef
Now they will be having sex even in classrooms, yah neh! Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Ndwandwe3Agincourt
does this minister give condoms to his children when they go to school. Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
midastouch
And Zuma wonders why people make drawings of his privates!!! his whole life is a litany of d**k stories and that famous shower!! Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
C'Chaba
our gov. failed to provide texbook in schools and now want to provide condoms"amuzing". Promoting sex in schools instant of promoting education"stuff govenment nxee" Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
musa.moses
One of the best decisions taken by the Health Minister. A lot of kids would be saved and their future is now in their hands. Folks amaze me, like you encounter monks/ nuns in those schools? Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Sophisticated_Ignorance
Judging from this thread, a majority of black south africans are against a logical and practical partnership between the Dept of Health and Education.
If you could take your left palm and swipe it across your face, hard, for a minute, you'd realise that this pseudo-conservative and backward method of thinking of yours has caused the embarrassing statistics that the two Departments dish out every year of teen pregnancies and HIV/AIDS transmission in school children!
The weirdest thing my fellow Africans is that, as much as you whine and moan about these control measures put in place (condoms in schools) to mitigate/ prevent ascociated risks (unwanted pregnancies, HIV/AIDS transmission) amongst school children, they are just symptoms of a f'kked up society.
Teach your kids well, teach them the value of their bodies and consequences of their decisions at a young age then voila no need for condoms in schools... But before then, STFU and let the government do their job! Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
molistos
Jo jo jo condoms @school 4 grade7's come on guys , that means we give them permission 2 have sex even @school no goverment u a buzy distroy our children's future u better think of something els pls Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
Bebesocs
Motsoaledi we learn by example do you have them at your home? Have you given them to your own children or to the children of Angie Motshekga? Blo....o..d..y f...c.. destroyer Report Abuse
Oct 12, 2012
somaartakeit
Ja like they are more urgent than text books everything has reached f*cked up levels no wonder the preoccupation of this ministers is delivering condoms in schools, nxa Report Abuse
Oct 13, 2012
DATEMAGIC
What will happen if a teacher gives school kids guns without bullets, definately they will look for the bullets and try to use them. now tell me there have been incidents esp many incidents where defects condoms have ever been issued to the public for their own safety now what if this incident happens again now if it shall happens to the school kids who will be responsible to this problem. If you give a kid a gun you are also giving them a thot of shooting, same as condoms. Report Abuse
Oct 13, 2012
sgubhusenkwishi
Mr minister you are promoting sex in schools now, you know that very well. Teachers in many provinces are still dealing with cases of sleeping with kids, kids are making videos of sex and now you are putting petrol on fire . Teachers would say the minister has authorised sex in schools for all. Report Abuse
Oct 15, 2012
tshigwere
To hell with ANC develish government,The devel the use this ANC government.whats the point to give young school children condoms.Heavenly Father don't give them the peace of mind or make sure this government of ANC must collapse into pieces. Report Abuse
Oct 15, 2012
Amza2010
people we need to stop predending as if we don't know that a 12 year child knows nothing about sex, they know sex and they watch movies with sex, they download sex pictures on their phone. so we need to be realistic here. There are people in certain provinces and villages where one stay far away from a clinic or a place where he/she can find a condom and it will be easy for them to get condoms at their school. as we all know that a discipline start at home. as a parent one need to educate his children about sex. i personally support this program but i think it should be ko di secondary level school because i don't think gore ngwana wa 10 yrs a ka lekana ke condom. Report Abuse
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Pointman
The health screening is fine but making condoms available to pupils is nonsense. Here is a failed government taking the easy way out. An impressionable child will think that it is a licence to become sexually active.Report Abuse
Mdala
It is fine because these school kids b0nk like rats if I may say so they even make o.r.g.y videos like the one that made rounds last yearReport Abuse
Tobby
This so called Motsoaledi must get his facts right, how can he say children should be supplied with condoms, anyway what suprises me because he is a man. He obviously is in love with a school girl so he is actually preparing for himself that devil.Report Abuse
Chichi7
health screening yes but condoms, hel no.Report Abuse
Tobby
Motsoaledi and Zuma and the ones that bonk school children so as the minister of health and the presiedent of the country, who can say what to them?? Nothing. Nxxxxx sis.Report Abuse
maneater
not too comfortable with the idea but hey if its going to save 1 childs life or prevent 1 unwanted pregnancy i say let get on with it.Report Abuse
Mosquer
so you are condoning sex at schoolReport Abuse
Pointman
@maneater - it will have negative effects - more pregnancies and more disease if more kids start having sex at an early age. The condom is not 100% reliable in preventing disease and pregnancy. And when do you think these kids will have sex and where.Report Abuse
Shredder
I hear you Mr Motsoaledi. I had a thorough talk with my niece about abstinence(though she was uncomfortable), I didn't tell her to use the condoms I told her to play as far away as possible from the boys. I told her about even these shooting of videos thing. Now the ball is in her court. It is up to her to make her decision, if she doesn't take heed to the uncle's words and do it her own way. She won't have to say anybody I had no one to talk to.Report Abuse
Wanani
Lets start a petition guys. I am totally against taking condoms to schools, are we giving them condoms so that they can have sex? Are we saying go do it and do it safely? Cant parents do this themselves? Is the Health department sharing parents responsibilities with parents? Government failed dismally.Report Abuse
Shredder
But really this world is fucked up.Report Abuse
THEmadame2B-BBEE
sure health screaming is fine, i received health screaming at the private school i used to go to, but at that age i never understood y, my guidance teacher kept on asking me if some was touching me at places they shouldn't i kept giving her the awkward look, only later to find out that there is something called sexual abuse and the school had a policy to protect its learners....The Minister must do this where there are majority of black people and schools because those ppl are not exposed to such privileges especially girls must know about using contraceptives and morning after pills and those black schools do not teach sex education, BUMMERReport Abuse
THEmadame2B-BBEE
I understand what and where the Ministry of health is coming from, if parents themselves fail to teach their children about sex education, what do expect they should learn about it, true in schools where they spent most of their time......remember government is for the people therefore if you cant’s take care of your ‘tarty’ girl child who opens her legs to every boy the state will do it on your behalfReport Abuse
madimetsha
and how did they explain it to kids?Report Abuse
ayobaness
he did not say sex at schoolhe was just condoning safe sex to pupils
especially those who r active
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2shy2call
Grade 7? Grade 7? Le pipinyana tsa bona di li zwinka mogare ga condom. Promotion of early sex. Ya teacher will b0nk them and say you have sex is official with our government. See they are giving condoms for what? Are those kids not under age?Will this not be a promoting of Statutory Rape?
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THEmadame2B-BBEE
@2shyjerrr, i suggest mense must do law101, statutory rape is where refer to sexual activities in which one person is below the age required to legally consent to the behavior. Although it usually refers to adults engaging in sex with minors under the age of consent, it is a generic term, and very few jurisdictions use the actual term "statutory rape" in the language of statutes....we do not have such law is South Africa
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Lord-Have-Mercy
its not going down well but for the sake of protecting kids im okay, @ least they will have Condom Usage Experience (CUE) when they reach 20'sRemember former President Thabo Mbeki passed the law of a 12year old female to have abortion without parents knowledge. How on earth can an African Rennaisance person pass that law but
i sensed Illuminati forcing immoral laws to the society including homos, abortions etc
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MorenaWaPolelo
Wanani & PointmanLets get over our selves kids do have s.e.x and this is not going to stop, is high time as parents we engage and let them know about the s.e.x results and responsibity. We need to accept that being a parent is hader these days!!!
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Shredder
@THEmadame2B-BBEEsure health screaming is fine, i received health screaming at the private school
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Good morning my dear sweet madam to be.
Tell me what the hell is the "health screaming"?
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Mxaueht
Are we giving them condoms so that they can have sex? Are we saying go do it and do it safely? Cant parents do this themselves? Is the Health department sharing parents responsibilities with parents? Government failed dismally._________________________________
This is a top down approach which will have severe consequencies I am telling you.
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Flemza
Health Minister Aaron Motsoaledi you are loosing it here , do u want to turn schools into brothels now , you can not give out condoms and expect them not to be used, please let schools be used for learning , not for sex education , I`m just glad I went for vaspectomy and my last born son won`t be exposed to this madness , we are going back to M.beki`s error now , were all the dirty things and rights were given to kids , where in African culture have you seen a kid motivated to have sex , we are slowly turing into western culture and I can`t believe this , were is our Ubuthu hereReport Abuse
nkwahh
Owh bawo, condomin bags hehh, thoz teachers who like to bonk students wil be so happy abt dis sisReport Abuse
McCountryMan
maybe the Teacher ba tlagole go Ja bana Ba sekolo sonor, Ba pakile bana ba le bona manReport Abuse
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@ShredderMy teacher once told not send her an essay before I had read it ten times myself if it makes sense, i suggest you do the same concerning your comments.
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Do you know anything about curiosity, you can’t expect your niece to still play away form boys, until when....eventually curiosity will kick in and then what, instead you should had told her about precautionary measures like she must use a morning after pill if the condom breaks or use a condom or if she is sexually active she must use contraceptive to prevent t unwanted pregnancies...and for interest sake MALOME LEAVE UR NIECE ALONE
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Buc4life
Hello AllI think that we need to face the reality that children engage in sex from a very young age. The bigger problem is that parents fail to talk to their children about such matters. So, yes, the government- as the ultimate custodian of our children needed to do something about this. Surely if a 12-yr old can engage in sex(wrong as this is) then he must be given a condom/contraceptive. This in my view is not condoning the act itself but it is a proactive measure taken by our government to protect children from unwanted pregnancies and/or diseases. Ours is a society where an average parent plays very little role in directing his/her child. Parents do wrong things in front of their children. Parents fail to talk to their children about important things in life and then they want to moan when the government initiates measures such as this.
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PUPU
kids are only safe when they covered by the blood of JESUS condoms will never be the solution kids must know that sex is not for them untill they are married full stop.People must come to realise that the solutionto this WORLD problems is with GOD by excepting JESUS AS LORD AND SAVIOUR.
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MorenaWaPolelo
McCountryManmaybe the Teacher ba tlagole go Ja bana Ba sekolo sonor, Ba pakile bana ba le bona man
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You are out of order have decipline, tlogela bana dipotsonono di teng mos!!!
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Tobby
Buc4life if you are a woman, YOU'VE REALLY DISSAPOINTED ME, how can you talk like that, i doubt you are in love with a married man and you're still young.Report Abuse
Virgin.after.sex
@Wanani...but these kids are having sex anyway, so it's better if they have it safely. They are not even scared of AIDS, it's scary. I know a 16 year old who had 3 abortions. What's better? contracting diseases & having kids whilst they're still kids themselves??? But then again, history repeats itself because most of these children's mothers became sexually active at a young age and had them in their teens. So how do you expect a young mother to teach her daughter about abstinence & responsible sex when she is still has to grow up herself. So yes, let Health dept share the responsibility.Report Abuse
candilious
PointmanThe health screening is fine but making condoms available to pupils is nonsense. Here is a failed government taking the easy way out. An impressionable child will think that it is a licence to become sexually active.
_____________________100% correct how f$$%%ken blerrie stupid can one be.
How about appointing qaulified teachers whom can teach the children this .Back in the day we home Economics ,Bible Classes ,Biology that use to teach us the basics of life .Which our New Gvmt so richly removed and cahange the sylibuss where teachers dont even understand
We truly live in a confucked country run by idots...............
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Nongoloza24
There's nothing wrong in giving them condoms those children have sex at an early age.Report Abuse
Lord-Have-Mercy
@WananiLets start a petition guys. I am totally against taking condoms to schools, are we giving them condoms so that they can have sex? Are we saying go do it and do it safely? Cant parents do this themselves? Is the Health department sharing parents responsibilities with parents? Government failed dismally.
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most of these kids dont have parents, parents died of AIDS
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maneater
@Pointman@maneater - it will have negative effects - more pregnancies and more disease if more kids start having sex at an early age. The condom is not 100% reliable in preventing disease and pregnancy. And when do you think these kids will have sex and where.
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they are having sex already or how would you explain a large number of tenage pregnancies? yes the condom is not 100% but it has been proven to reduce the chances of contracting deseases and unwanted pregnancies. i am not saying that they should be encouraged but because we are unable to stop them we must empower them to make better choices.
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DJ-Winner
There is nothing wrong with provision of condoms because kids are fcuking anyway. I don't see how this will encourage kids to fcuk. It will only protect them...Report Abuse
Virgin.after.sex
@Wanani... Please Start a petition for a death penalty and willy chopping of rapists.Report Abuse
MUFARO
Nongoloza24There's nothing wrong in giving them condoms those children have sex at an early age
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O PARI PARI WENA TOKO YA GO SESI.
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Mosquer
Some people's thoughts. hai SA is rottenReport Abuse
Seja-Bana
its amaizing, in our times, we didn't know that a school kid is acive sexually. but nawadays. it is public, they don't even ashamed of saying lets give them condoms. everyone knows that condoms are made fo sex. nothing else, this simply means they are encouraging the learners to bonk one another. i am disappointed about the current leadership in general. starting from the pres.Report Abuse
Voetzek
This kak is Taboo at the highest degree, the school is it meant for sex or education, siesReport Abuse
mbondo
Thanks God my wifeis from Botswana, when my children reach puberty stage I'll take them to Botswana to get educated there not this crap SA education where they f*ck children both boys and girls.Report Abuse
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Voeszek, moeskond o Bari my chap.....what the fck what do you think biology is about*mitosis*Report Abuse
Vongsta
How do you issue condoms to grade 7 pupil? its our responsibility as parent and teachers to teach our kids to abstain not give them condoms......... what will this programes they introduce include? Eish.....phela a grade 7 pupil is still primary................Report Abuse
Nongoloza24
MUFARONongoloza24
There's nothing wrong in giving them condoms those children have sex at an early age
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Heee wena jou moer why would Mr Mbeki say a 12 year old could abort if these children were not facking huh?
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Zabaragast
Make condoms available to them, it should get parents talking to their kids about sex with the way the programme is planned, which is about damn time. Burrying our heads in the sand and pretending these kids are not having sex is only opening them up to unwanted pregnancies and desease.Report Abuse
letwadi
While stil at it, why not give them dvd copies of "How to impregnate a friends daughter and how to rape an old friend's daughter and use a shower, they will go hand in hand with the condoms, don't you mr Pres?Report Abuse
Bubah
I support goverment 100%. I am now 36 and a grandfather already. My firstborn daugther, who is now 14 years old has a baby boy. They must start to give condoms at schools, grade 7 pupils are already doing sex at early age.Report Abuse
Buc4life
letwadiWhile stil at it, why not give them dvd copies of "How to impregnate a friends daughter and how to rape an old friend's daughter and use a shower, they will go hand in hand with the condoms, don't you mr Pres?
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Hello there.
You cannot blame Zuma for every social ill. Lets be put it on record that I do not like Zuma, but blaming him for everything will only worsen things. In this instance, parents are to blame.
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NguboNduna
What are condoms doing at school? What are they promoting to these kids? Health screening is a must but Condoms is a NO NOReport Abuse
Vongsta
BubahI support goverment 100%. I am now 36 and a grandfather already. My firstborn daugther, who is now 14 years old has a baby boy. They must start to give condoms at schools, grade 7 pupils are already doing sex at early age.
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Did you try to talk to your daughter about sex before? Did you check the company of friends she keeps? do you spent time with her to understand her dreams, ambitions and standards? Did you help her with her homework? did you want to know how was school and what challenges she was going through?
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Lord-Have-Mercy
To all bloggersWhat age did you start having sex? remember Hide and seek how old were you?
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Danielrjvvuren
Look I think this is an amazing idea on paper. We must move from being a government that reacts to a government that acts. Isn't the ethical theory of responsibility vs responsiveness the key here. Deal with the problem rather than the outcome. Educate the kids show them how to use and when to use give them the precautionary measures but above all teach them the outcomes. Not just social problems with having a child but the financial also. Good initiative but must be done right.Report Abuse
Vongsta
Its not only a mother's responsibility to take care of kids, it takes to good parents. Ihave noticed that we don't have time for our kids, most of us even during the week are found in clubs, restuarants and offices. We overwork ourselves for positions and power. Eish, its hard for kids bafowethu.Report Abuse
DrunkenMaster
Typical South Africans this is not only about condoms, but rather it is an Intergrated School Health Programme which focuses on various issues like substance abuse, teenage pregnancy, suicide e.t.cReport Abuse
Vongsta
DanielrjvvurenLook I think this is an amazing idea on paper. We must move from being a government that reacts to a government that acts. Isn't the ethical theory of responsibility vs responsiveness the key here. Deal with the problem rather than the outcome. Educate the kids show them how to use and when to use give them the precautionary measures but above all teach them the outcomes. Not just social problems with having a child but the financial also. Good initiative but must be done right.
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@Daniel, well said!
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MommaC
As a parent, you push morals and social behaviour onto your children from birth to about 14. After that you just hope that it stuck and they are still afraid of you. You can't follow them around 24/7 and you can't force them to have brain cells. The best you can do is hope that, if they are going to play 'big people' games, then they will take 'big people' precautions.I was extremely lucky with my kids but anybody who ever says "My children would never ....." has not gone through the teen years yet.
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Danielrjvvuren
VongstaThanks. Heaven forbid if I find a boy in my 14 year old sisters bed, but I would rather have an awkward conversation about a boy in the bed then a bun in the oven.
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Nongoloza24
BubahI support goverment 100%. I am now 36 and a grandfather already. My firstborn daugther, who is now 14 years old has a baby boy. They must start to give condoms at schools, grade 7 pupils are already doing sex at early age.
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kikikikikikkikkiikikikiki are you sure you not the father kikikikikikikikikiki o sa etsa o jele stoko monna kikikikikikikikiki
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Done!
Well, I believe supplying condoms at school will not bring or encourage students to have sex, look these students they will need a place to engage themself in this activity and chanses are less that they can do sex in school premises and Should they practice sex than atleast it is a protected one ( since many of them they cant afford to buy condoms), so I rather do protected sex at "that age" than to do unprotected sex at a much older ages! so the bottom line is it is better to protect than to cure!!Report Abuse
Bubah
Yes, my daugher matured at 9( started to see moons). She is always No 01 at school and she is doing Physics and Maths. She is doing Drade 10 now.Report Abuse
lenyora13
lets stop be naive.. high school children will have sex whether gona le di condom or not.. lets encourage save and responsible behaviour.. it mite reduce number teen preg..Report Abuse
cocolucho
When I was 13, my told me about periods and that once I start getting my periods, I could fall pregnant just by being around boys.Report Abuse
MOKOPANEDUDE
U cant force them 2 use condoms by supplying them at school and that means govt ran out of ideas on how to reinforce biding laws to discipline pupil and make them realise that is learning environment not other way around,this s not the first generation to be at school we were there also,pls come with better which is academic related not this condom nonsenseReport Abuse
spekepeke1
They don't deliver textbooks but deliver condoms....Report Abuse
swona
chances are that my son who is in grade 5 this year will also get a pocket with ten doms, are 100%! weldone Mr Minister, guess I will have to get ready to explain when must he use them to him!Report Abuse
T.C.T
so our children are being thought about sex in schools now they are being told to do homeworks alsoo....maybe the intension is good.....if parents dont want condoms then they must teach there children to wear appropriate school uniforms that covers theres a,sses phela ba re lomisaaReport Abuse
Skopokopo
Morning AllSweetyk my love i miss you, where are you my frendo.
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Blackstone.lebs
Sexual activity in underage children is there and has always been there. It's every parent's resposibility to teach and guide his/her children on this subject, raising a child is a full time job that needs a committed parent. There will always be elements (at school, church, sports teams, playground) that will tell your child otherwise and government is only putting preventative measures in place to assist in such instances, focusing in schools.I do not believe that nurses at schools will just dish out condoms without advicing the recipients on dangers associated with underage sex. When all is said and done, it's you as a parent that will deal with what your child brings home after engaging in underage sex, whether it's a baby or std's.
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Tubetsiii
12 yr old is allowed to have an abortion, why not????????????????Report Abuse
mahlalela
Mr Motsoaledi you are realy misleading our young brother and sister by allowing them to have sex anytime and even at school......This mechanisms is destroying the dignity of eductaion in our country.Report Abuse
cocolucho
Its a good idea and I support it,only condition is that only the nurses be able to hand it out so that should they want to engage in $€x then they get counselled first.Report Abuse
KGS000
@Buck4lifeI think that we need to face the reality that children engage in sex from a very young age. The bigger problem is that parents fail to talk to their children about such matters. So, yes, the government- as the ultimate custodian of our children needed to do something about this. Surely if a 12-yr old can engage in sex(wrong as this is) then he must be given a condom/contraceptive. This in my view is not condoning the act itself but it is a proactive measure taken by our government to protect children from unwanted pregnancies and/or diseases. Ours is a society where an average parent plays very little role in directing his/her child. Parents do wrong things in front of their children. Parents fail to talk to their children about important things in life and then they want to moan when the government initiates measures such as this.
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Well said my sister I agree 100%
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Bubah
The goverment is not forcing our children to take condoms, but our kids are already engaged to sex. Is it goverment or parents who failed to do their work?Report Abuse
edna
I dont know whether it's a good idea or what but i have a bad feeling about this.Report Abuse
malemaforpresident
Motswaledi to also illustrate to the school kids how to use a condom with his own d.ick Siiis NxaaaReport Abuse
Shredder
@THEmadame2B-BBEE@Shredder
My teacher once told not send her an essay before I had read it ten times myself if it makes sense, i suggest you do the same concerning your comments.
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Do you know anything about curiosity, you can’t expect your niece to still play away form boys, until when....eventually curiosity will kick in and then what, instead you should had told her about precautionary measures like she must use a morning after pill
.and for interest sake MALOME LEAVE UR NIECE ALONE
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Morning after pill does not prevent contraction of HIV. Leave her alone? Don't you think that leaving her alone is irresponsibility? Of course I a not going to police her. Don't you think by talking to her shows love? Think my sister think.
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Danielrjvvuren
Look even at University there are no condoms to be found. I walked into my lecture venue finding a couple in coupe de' grace right there. Now I had lectures in there and they had no business doing their business in there but the point is there is no condoms available making the chances of "drop-outs" so much more a reality. Action rather than reactionReport Abuse
bytheway1
I understand that it may help, but I cannot help but to ask what have become of our society? Values is down the drain... no respect whatsoever for nothing and nobody!Report Abuse
Shredder
@THEmadame2B-BBEE@Shredder
My teacher once told not send her an essay before I had read it ten times myself if it makes sense, i suggest you do the same concerning your comments.
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Health Scream suggests I must read my comments ten times. LOL
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DA-DBN-GUY
Wow the useless anc cant supply books to schools but will readily provide condoms???? WTF is wrong with the anc hoestly?Report Abuse
Voetzek
@THEmadame2B-BBEE_____________________
yoo get ur act together and act responsible, these teachers chaps are impreganating our kids at school and what message these guys are potraying buy giving condoms, Tzek
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DA-DBN-GUY
THIS COUNTRY ID FUKKEDReport Abuse
DA-DBN-GUY
Eish I think I need a refresher course in English lolTHIS COUNTRY IS FUKKED
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cocolucho
@danielrjvvurenAt my varsity we have condoms in the bathrooms,but I've never found people getting kinky in class...they probably did it for the thrill of getting caught,it can be fun ;)..lol
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babyfats
azinikwe man lezingane amacondoms ZIBHEBHANA 3much nxaaaaaaaaaa abafazi namadoda esikolwen mxm mxmReport Abuse
ntyantya
Do this ministers have children? Couldn't they have done more research on how to reduce teenage pregnancy and HIV? Giving this kids condoms it's just directly saying have sex. Condoms do burst and most of them wouldn't know how to use condoms. I still say they must abstain and concentrate on their school work cause sex and education do not mix at allReport Abuse
funza
To give condoms to a standard 5 kid is an evil short cut to life's lesson. The people who pass these laws or whatever they call them, do they ever stop and think what disastrous impact these things have in the society. It would be more proper for you Minister to say, there is a well thought strategy to inform children about the stage they are in life and not impose on them that they should start having sex by using condoms because there are some who do it. Some children are still children but some are wild but do we assume the standard of the wild and impose it on the normal children.Kindly be advised that there is no short cut in bringing up a child, Parents and health educators should seat down and educate chlidren about how they should be progressing in life, not taking extreme behaviuor and making it normal.Of course this takes time, we cannot hurry when it comes to children
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Danielrjvvuren
cocoluchoYou would think UKZN would have condoms but NOOOOO. This couple was busy with falacio and all. Me being a ginger blushed so badly I radiated heat and they just stood there looking at me looking at them for 5 seconds before I turned around and excused my rude interruption. On exit I realized that they are the wrong party here proceeded to kick the door open and demanded that they go. Was a funny time but really there are many empty spots to go do that... haha
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JODECI
strongly disagree with want the government it means they are say its right to engage in sex at an early age why not educate them in the dangers of sti as those condoms they will use them for a while and other times they wont as our kids like to experimentReport Abuse
16-12-1838
Hope they don't staple the instructions through them again?Oh and while they are at it, they might as well give them a joint or a half-jack so they don't have to buy these things either. I suppose it is much easier than attempting to educate them!
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Gabha
What are condoms for? If I'm giving you a condom what are my expectation? What am I asking you to do? This Zulu culture also came up when Mr. President was accused of rape so I'm not sure what to learn from it.Report Abuse
Danielrjvvuren
People there must be education with the handing out of a condom. If you do not educate the kids they would think them very weird looking wet balloons. Are you lot so naive to think they just handing out condoms without teaching them what it is all about. Done the right way prevention is better than the outcome without don't you guys agree.Report Abuse
tipiyamokwatajwalajwabatswana
oh no am i drunk?mxm la hlanyadikontomo ko baneng?Report Abuse
sh!tFaceSamsung
I fully agree with te minister : condom & contraceptives is a way to go for now :Report Abuse
Shredder
Blekserm!!! this name above.Report Abuse
tipiyamokwatajwalajwabatswana
ShredderBlekserm!!! this name above.
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wat name???
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DA-DBN-GUY
DanielrjvvurenGiving out condoms to Grade 7 is NOT the answer. Rather teach a proper sex education course to the pupils and implement harsher sexual assault sentences. You should not even be thinking of having sex while you in school but unfortunately some cultures cant help themselves.
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Sfefenyana
I am also totally against taking condoms to school,school is a learning place where our children will learn nt about sex bt education.By taking condoms to schools,we encourage more sex @ school en we will c poor education performanceReport Abuse
sh!tFaceSamsung
tipiyamokwatajwalajwabatswanadis name hahahahahahahahahaha remind me some of funky names mentioned below
tsolaborokgo
seropemperekele
shushumelang
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Danielrjvvuren
DA-DBN-GUYBut education must be given. You cant blindly hand out condoms and not have a talk with it. Don't make this a racial or cultural debate sex in schools are a universal issue not just stuck to one culture so none of that. Prevention is the cure. Teach the kids every aspect of sex and the outcomes. From Financial STDS and social problems with having a child. We can not turn a blind eye and saying kids are having sex it would be ignorant.
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KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
Grade 7 pupils have to utilize contraceptives,how old are they?Report Abuse
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Shredder........................
i've heard plenty of stories of what bo Malome do to their nieces, shiet, already picking your victim, o sleg maan, leave it to her aunts to talk to her about her body
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sh!tFaceSamsung
DA-DBN-GUYwe hav to face te reality umsholosi is right when he says some of these kids are sexually active : n parents seems not knowing how to deal with it : besides that te statistic shows very well that in msanzi teenage pragnancy is escalating high & high day by day
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DA-DBN-GUY
DanielrjvvurenUnfortunately it is predominant in certain cultures and race groups and that is a fact that needs to be taken into consideration. The old apratheid government never had such programs. I was 15 when i first found out about condoms. By handing out condoms the anc are condoning under age sex. There are also religious issues that need to be taken into consideration and I feel the government should be consulting with parents instead of merely starting a program of this nature. Handing out condoms is tantamount to putting a plaster on an open gash that requires stitches.
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Danielrjvvuren
DA-DBN-GUYI am with you on the education aspect. Educate the students first about sex and ALL it entails but not handing out condoms has worse outcomes than rather having it and not needing it that needing and not having. We where taught about condoms Gr8 13-14 years and yes we laughed about it and yes we didn't know all but we where taught out of an...wait for it... textbook from 1984. An apartheid book! It was denied to some races but I think proper education with these condoms could help.
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Tsar-Rasputin
Condoms must be accessible to all South Africans who are likely to engage in a sexual activity, whether 15 or 51 years old. The main purpose of availing them is to prevent unwanted pregnancy as, sexual tranmitted dieases and HIV Aids.During marathons, I see water station filled with water, but it does not necessary means all the runner will drink the available water!!!!
Furthermore distribution of condoms will reduce and/or eliminate teenage pregnancy and dependency on children’s grants
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Honeybadger
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I find it annoying too!
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Popeye
Nakho-ke futhi…you are turning our schools a Sodom and Gomorra. My daughter is only 9yrs old…she knows nothing about condoms…huh. This Zuma cabinet is planting the wrong seed to this generation…these condoms will only be distributed to townships/rural schools…not at Hoer skools. Concerned parent…let us pray……amen.Report Abuse
Tsar-Rasputin
Popeye, dont be naive.She is playing hide and seek. You know what u were doing when you were playing the game!!!
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Danielrjvvuren
Help out here is Hide and Seek like playing doctor or whats going on there? I'm amiss to what that is? I know white kids play doctor to explore but what is that then?Report Abuse
DeOvi
HoneybadgerShredder
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I find it annoying too!
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Honeybadger
This kids are screwing each other anyway; so the govt might as well assist by giving condoms. We cant pretend its not happening.Report Abuse
Winilen
The health screening is fine but making condoms available to grade 7 pupils is bu.ll sh.it mxm. Dirty teachers now will find it easy to sleep with young girls.Report Abuse
babyfats
lol lol hai amanye amagama realyyReport Abuse
MOLORI
ai aii ai aiaiaiaiaiaiaiaiaia tse ke mathata nagana fela o kgumana di condom kagare ga school bagReport Abuse
Honeybadger
MOLORIai aii ai aiaiaiaiaiaiaiaiaia tse ke mathata nagana fela o kgumana di condom kagare ga school bag
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yaa. Then you know your child may not be bringing your granddaughter soon. And the prevalence of HIV amongst this high school kids today hai man. A relative who is an MD was telling me how high it is amongst the 14-23 years old. So please let them have condoms if it will help reduce the scourge.
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Nzumbululo
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DIRECTED BY: ANC MP DR. AARON MOTSWALEDI
REVIEWER: THE SOWETAN NEWSPAPER - THIS IS A JAW DROPPER OF THE YEAR EXPECT TO BE SHOCKED
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Popeye
@Tsar-RasputinPopeye, dont be naive.
She is playing hide and seek. You know what u were doing when you were playing the game!!!
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Whoa…whoa mnumzane. I don’t care about hide and seek…my concern is these condoms that will be allocated in our schools…uyabona manje. What are they going to teach our kids…condoms, condoms, condoms…just like pimples, pimples pimples. Hai maan wake up brother. Do you have kids? If not don’t comment
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mathonsimp
I think we have to approach the issue in a positive way. Pupils from grade 7 are sleeping already and this is a fact. Why it is bed to encourage them to do it safe. The minister is not giving them licence s to do it but doing it safe. Parents failed to protect these kids from pregnancy because we protect them too much to talk to them about this kind of staff. Teenage pregnancies were and still a problem during my time at high school. We need to stop this.Report Abuse
MakgwebelakaKokoYaManoti!
Bana ba banyane bana le bo na ba se ba tseba ho betena,grade 7.Report Abuse
ntyantya
Instead of supplying condoms why don't they call people who had kids whilst at school and people who are living with HIV or just one day take them tro hospitals or hospiceReport Abuse
Shredder
Spooky names are creeping up today, another one just above ntyantya.Report Abuse
malemaforpresident
U see now doing things without proper approach,reseach and finally consultation what do school chilren going to do with condoms at schools the purpose of school buildings is not to store condoms is to teach kids the importance of education and not about the importance of engaging in sexual activities kante teachers ba ruata bana ba totetswe na do they have to engage in sex during short breaks or during lunch time things are getting out of hands giving children rights then offering them condoms this is total madnessReport Abuse
skwamasamabele
Best solution is the Swedish model. Children as young as 6 learn about sex in school. the problem with SA is sex is not even discussed at home, let alone in school. We have to exticate ourselves from making sex education a taboo, a no go area because as parents we are just too embarrassed to explain it to our children, and to the detriment of our children. We parents are totally responsible, or shall I say irresponsible for youth pregnanciesReport Abuse
KGS000
@NtyantyaThat won't make a difference, ppl never listen atleast they are arming these kids
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cornelius
Friggin visionless idi.ots ! This is like inviting the kids to have se.x and the way kids' minds work, they will feel this means it's actuall expected that they do.The answer is to work hard with moral education to inspire the kids to refrain from se'xual behaviour - kids are just not ready, and it cheapens the whole thing. What excitng thiongs lie ahead for you, if you are already jhaving s.ex at such a young age ?
This is ridiculous - these poe.phols don't know what they are doing.
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WordofGod
giving a condom to a 14 year old!! can he do the same with his kids? nc nc ncReport Abuse
KGS000
The kids are having sex already maan and ya'll know it, the gorvenment is making sure its protected sex.Report Abuse
tmot10
They say having sex with a minor is a crime and yet the condoms are distributed in schools. Don't you think this is a lot contradictory? So if an 18 year old sleeps with a 14 year old, is it not supposed to be a statutory rape?Well then I think if this country is run by heathens who don't believe what God says, then it is in confusion.
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ChampRef
Now they will be having sex even in classrooms, yah neh!Report Abuse
Ndwandwe3Agincourt
does this minister give condoms to his children when they go to school.Report Abuse
midastouch
And Zuma wonders why people make drawings of his privates!!! his whole life is a litany of d**k stories and that famous shower!!Report Abuse
C'Chaba
our gov. failed to provide texbook in schools and now want to provide condoms"amuzing". Promoting sex in schools instant of promoting education"stuff govenment nxee"Report Abuse
musa.moses
One of the best decisions taken by the Health Minister. A lot of kids would be saved and their future is now in their hands. Folks amaze me, like you encounter monks/ nuns in those schools?Report Abuse
Sophisticated_Ignorance
Judging from this thread, a majority of black south africans are against a logical and practical partnership between the Dept of Health and Education.If you could take your left palm and swipe it across your face, hard, for a minute, you'd realise that this pseudo-conservative and backward method of thinking of yours has caused the embarrassing statistics that the two Departments dish out every year of teen pregnancies and HIV/AIDS transmission in school children!
The weirdest thing my fellow Africans is that, as much as you whine and moan about these control measures put in place (condoms in schools) to mitigate/ prevent ascociated risks (unwanted pregnancies, HIV/AIDS transmission) amongst school children, they are just symptoms of a f'kked up society.
Teach your kids well, teach them the value of their bodies and consequences of their decisions at a young age then voila no need for condoms in schools... But before then, STFU and let the government do their job!
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molistos
Jo jo jo condoms @school 4 grade7's come on guys , that means we give them permission 2 have sex even @school no goverment u a buzy distroy our children's future u better think of something els plsReport Abuse
Bebesocs
Motsoaledi we learn by example do you have them at your home? Have you given them to your own children or to the children of Angie Motshekga? Blo....o..d..y f...c.. destroyerReport Abuse
somaartakeit
Ja like they are more urgent than text books everything has reached f*cked up levels no wonder the preoccupation of this ministers is delivering condoms in schools, nxaReport Abuse
DATEMAGIC
What will happen if a teacher gives school kids guns without bullets, definately they will look for the bullets and try to use them. now tell me there have been incidents esp many incidents where defects condoms have ever been issued to the public for their own safety now what if this incident happens again now if it shall happens to the school kids who will be responsible to this problem. If you give a kid a gun you are also giving them a thot of shooting, same as condoms.Report Abuse
sgubhusenkwishi
Mr minister you are promoting sex in schools now, you know that very well. Teachers in many provinces are still dealing with cases of sleeping with kids, kids are making videos of sex and now you are putting petrol on fire . Teachers would say the minister has authorised sex in schools for all.Report Abuse
tshigwere
To hell with ANC develish government,The devel the use this ANC government.whats the point to give young school children condoms.Heavenly Father don't give them the peace of mind or make sure this government of ANC must collapse into pieces.Report Abuse
Amza2010
people we need to stop predending as if we don't know that a 12 year child knows nothing about sex, they know sex and they watch movies with sex, they download sex pictures on their phone. so we need to be realistic here. There are people in certain provinces and villages where one stay far away from a clinic or a place where he/she can find a condom and it will be easy for them to get condoms at their school. as we all know that a discipline start at home. as a parent one need to educate his children about sex. i personally support this program but i think it should be ko di secondary level school because i don't think gore ngwana wa 10 yrs a ka lekana ke condom.Report Abuse
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