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Youth want Zuma back in court - Survey

Oct 11, 2012 | Sapa | 92 comments

A majority also think Juju should be in the dock

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Oct 11, 2012

Tasto

It very hard to deal with just 1 charge maar to have more than 700 dropped\disappear just like that its unfair !!
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Oct 11, 2012

McCountryMan

i do however i feel it will be waste of time, money (again) as he was in court before and what idffernce it will make, he will never go to jail.

PS: He has already costed us too much.
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Oct 11, 2012

SLY007

I could not agree with them more! I strongly believe that the current Generation, including the born-frees, will do their utmost to ensure that he does not return to the Union Buildings so that he can face the music. Oh! what a day that will be when we see him going back to the dock - we need JUSTICE!
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Oct 11, 2012

Showerhead

McCountryMan

He must answer to the charges he never answered all he did was run around till he got the chance to make them disappear. So he must go to court answer even if he does not go to jail it means if found guilty we will all be safe cos he wont be president anymore
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Oct 11, 2012

malemaforpresident

Thuli discovered 1 cent corruption In Limpopo but could not uncover over R1Bil corruption in Nkandla is that fairness the man should just stand for trial
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Oct 11, 2012

E'FREE

"th problem in ths country is Thabo Mbeki and his Pipuli (people)" whom is th problem now?.
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Oct 11, 2012

Lehido

The day he looses his presidency, he will go to jail, and my wish is for him to share a singlr cell with Julius
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Oct 11, 2012

Lungu

I agree with the you as i'm still a youth as well, as much as i want him to face his many corruption charges i want him to be trialed and sentenced to jail for many years.
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Oct 11, 2012

RobinH

I find it very refreshing to see that the people that will have to live in the world these people are so busily stripping have this view. There is hope, maybe not for my generation, but for that of my children.... and in the final analysis, that is all that really matters.
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Oct 11, 2012

T.C.T

is the anyone with legal exprens here? i think is too late cause some ppl forgot the incident that took place some info is manipulated or disappeared is loosing battlle but juju case is fresh
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Oct 11, 2012

Nwanawamukalaha

Since he preached the "Rule of law" during the UN conference, i for one would like to see him clear his name too.

Innocent until proven guilty.....................
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Oct 11, 2012

Blackstone.lebs

If this survey is anything to go by then it's definitely a light at the end of the tunnel.
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Oct 11, 2012

Phathuza

Thats what i have been saying all the time we as youth of SA we would be glad if Zuma can have his day in court because the is no way he cannot be founded guilty as his advisor and friend sheik was foundend guilty also.
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Oct 11, 2012

ChampRef

Where will they get the evidence from? So much hatred? Zuma this Zuma that, oh by the way you guys were still young and babies when the Boipatong and other massacres occured, I see a repeat of the same events, watch it and goodluck to all of you fellow youths of MZANSI.
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Oct 11, 2012

E'FREE

Zuma will never hv his day in court, period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,
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Oct 11, 2012

ChampRef

@E'FREE
Zuma will never hv his day in court, period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,

So true, the only thing that will happen is to see him doing his second term as President.
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Oct 11, 2012

Phathuza

Malema is also corrupt and he cant be trusted, Allegations have been investigated and findings have been made by Thuli , Malema watch out thers more coming for you bra
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Oct 11, 2012

McCountryMan

@ Showerhead, you know how stupid that man can get mara, remeber his answering in the rape case when he got cross questioned.

1. Taking a shower after he realized she had aids

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Oct 11, 2012

midastouch

I say FEED HIM TO THE DOGS!!!!
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Oct 11, 2012

BRA-MAFUTHA

the sooner we get rid of that thing the better
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Oct 11, 2012

Jajaja

There is serious abuse of the Highest Office in the country by JZ. Let him come and face the music, together with his nephew JUju. The two iliterates think that they own the political platform of the country and its citizens. Mangaung is going to do nothing for an ordinary citizen, but only to the advancement of the NEC who are alligned to the winner. The voting system in RSA is only a crap. We are made to sign a blank cheque for looters.
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Oct 11, 2012

Dubul'Amanzi

Zuma yes,and Malema it's unfair to charge him.
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Oct 11, 2012

Hail

Aeye! The Nkamdla renovations is just like the Ratanang trust, let them go to jail.
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Oct 11, 2012

!!!Sinudeity!!!

JZ should go back to court. The spy-tapes which got him off the hook were ruled out as inadmissible a few months ago. Therefore, all 700+ corruption charges are still standing.
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Oct 11, 2012

DJ-Winner

Whos is this youth Sowetan is always talking about? A bunch of white kids and those stinking things from Zimpopo?
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Oct 11, 2012

DJ-Winner

!!!Sinudeity!!!
JZ should go back to court. The spy-tapes which got him off the hook were ruled out as inadmissible a few months ago. Therefore, all 700+ corruption charges are still standing.
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Stop telling people lies. DA applied to have those tapes and it was given them and Zille had her butts kicked. There is nothing wrong with those tapes. Babysit them all you can, we don't care.
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Oct 11, 2012

LEEMINAJ

"MELE A BOPHWE LO BABA" #in malema's voice.....kikikiki
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Oct 11, 2012

!!!Sinudeity!!!

DJ-Winner - You said the same thing yesterday. Your statement indicates that you dont have an understanding of what the tapes mean to the case.

The spy-tapes were ruled as illegal, and therefore inadmissible in a court of law. Therefore, JZ must be hauled back to court:

http://dailymaverick.co.za/article/2011-09-28-zuma-spy-tape-drama-playing-again
http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politicsweb/view/politicsweb/en/page71646?oid=122959&sn=Detail
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Oct 11, 2012

!!!Sinudeity!!!

DJ-Winner - And no, the spy tapes havent been handed over to the DA yet.
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Oct 11, 2012

RobinH

DJW: Deliberately dof, as usual. Your world must be so small. I pity you, really.
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Oct 11, 2012

cocolucho

@sin
For your own mental health, I would suggest that you disengage with that mangamanga DJ, his brain recently died and he's trying to infect people with his lies
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Oct 11, 2012

!!!Sinudeity!!!

cocolucho - I know he is, but the other people reading our comments will walk away richer from it.
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Oct 11, 2012

Tasto

@DJ-Winner
!!!Sinudeity!!!
JZ should go back to court. The spy-tapes which got him off the hook were ruled out as inadmissible a few months ago. Therefore, all 700+ corruption charges are still standing.
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Stop telling people lies. DA applied to have those tapes and it was given them and Zille had her butts kicked. There is nothing wrong with those tapes. Babysit them all you can, we don't care.

Just for me broer when were they released or just your wild figmentation of your imagination ?

PS - h ttp://m g.co.za/article/2012-10-05-00-npa-dodges-release-of-spy-tapes
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Oct 11, 2012

!!!Sinudeity!!!

Tasto - Did you even read the article dude?

The article states that the NPA is 9 months behind the delivery of the spy tapes. And that the NPA is opposing the delivery of such. They are in turn showing contempt to the court order.

So, just to set the record straight, the spy-tapes have not been delivered yet. The spy tapes were ruled as inadmissible as evidence, therefore JZ still has all his corruption charges to account for.



I think Tasto just had his butts kicked :P
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Oct 11, 2012

DJ-Winner

!!!Sinudeity!!!...Court gave permission to DA to have tapes. If they don't want them, then they don't know what they wanted.

NPA dropped Zuma charges based on the evidence of those tapes. If tapes are invalid then why is Zuma walking freely? You don't know what you talking about...

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@cocolucho...I can see you do like to comment. Unfortunately, you have nothing to say really...

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RobinH
DJW: Deliberately dof, as usual. Your world must be so small. I pity you, really.
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And then what is your point beside the insult? Talk to me...
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Oct 11, 2012

Tasto

@DJ-Winner - broer the tapes have not been released yet plse stop misinformation !!

@!!!Sinudeity!!! - r' u hi on something or u miss me ?Kiss my ass!!

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Oct 11, 2012

!!!Sinudeity!!!

DJ-Winner - "NPA dropped Zuma charges based on the evidence of those tapes. If tapes are invalid then why is Zuma walking freely?"

EXACTLY, why is he walking freely?


Tasto - Sorry dude, I thought the portion of DJ's comment, was your comment.
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Oct 11, 2012

DJ-Winner

Tasto
@DJ-Winner - broer the tapes have not been released yet plse stop misinformation !!
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DA won a case to have an access to them, what are they waiting for? Christmas?
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Oct 11, 2012

DJ-Winner

!!!Sinudeity!!!
DJ-Winner - "NPA dropped Zuma charges based on the evidence of those tapes. If tapes are invalid then why is Zuma walking freely?"

EXACTLY, why is he walking freely?
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This is because you are lying...You giving me references of columnists expressing their views...
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Oct 11, 2012

E'FREE

most of you guys here lack insight, cannt you see that zuma will never go to jail again. charges were withdrawn. but mark my words he ths illiterate Pres makes in in december DA will be a force to be reckoned with, come 2014.
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Oct 11, 2012

Tasto

@DJ-Winner
Tasto
@DJ-Winner - broer the tapes have not been released yet plse stop misinformation !!
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DA won a case to have an access to them, what are they waiting for? Christmas?

The question to ask ourselves or yrself, does the tape exist or miraculously damaged?
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Oct 11, 2012

RobinH

DJW: AS said in my disappeared comment, which probably WAS offensive, but hey, worse stuff gets through: No point intended, as reason simply doesn't work with you. The intention was ridicule. Live with it, in the immortal words of Jimmy Manyi.
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Oct 11, 2012

DJ-Winner

Tasto
@DJ-Winner
Tasto
@DJ-Winner - broer the tapes have not been released yet plse stop misinformation !!
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DA won a case to have an access to them, what are they waiting for? Christmas?

The question to ask ourselves or yrself, does the tape exist or miraculously damaged?
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According to NPA they do exist...
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RobinH
DJW: AS said in my disappeared comment, which probably WAS offensive, but hey, worse stuff gets through: No point intended, as reason simply doesn't work with you. The intention was ridicule. Live with it, in the immortal words of Jimmy Manyi.
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You just wanted to call my name, because there is nothing really in this comment.
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Oct 11, 2012

MommaC

.... which is precisely why Zuma wants a second term. He wouldn't have fought so hard for a first term if the threat of jail wasn't hanging over his head and he can't step down unless he is positive that the threat is blunted.
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Oct 11, 2012

oldlady12

I've just read through the 42 comments ahead of mine, and DJW is the only one defending JZ. It must be lonely to be him.
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Oct 11, 2012

DJ-Winner

E'FREE
most of you guys here lack insight, cannt you see that zuma will never go to jail again. charges were withdrawn. but mark my words he ths illiterate Pres makes in in december DA will be a force to be reckoned with, come 2014.
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DA must change its policies to represent the majority or it will never win elections...

Get used to Zuma. He will win in Mangaung and in the 2014 elections. He is here for the next 6 years. Ge used to him or leave this country...
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Oct 11, 2012

Tasto

@DJ-Winner
Tasto
@DJ-Winner
Tasto
@DJ-Winner - broer the tapes have not been released yet plse stop misinformation !!
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DA won a case to have an access to them, what are they waiting for? Christmas?

The question to ask ourselves or yrself, does the tape exist or miraculously damaged?
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According to NPA they do exist...

Lucky you who knows something I dodn't.

PS - "He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors" - Thomas Jefferson


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Oct 11, 2012

RobinH

DJW If that opinion fuels your ego, enjoy it, Sir. I am in far too good a mood to get into this further. Have a great afternoon.
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Oct 11, 2012

Gusheshe

Im sure DJ-Winner is the son of the Presedent of KZN Jacob Zuma. He is defending him with everything he has and im sure he is even prepared to take a bullet for him
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Oct 11, 2012

cocolucho

@DJwinner
$uck my co*kiness, l¡ck my persuasion, eat my words and $wallow your pride down, if you can't handle my comments then dont comment on them.
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Oct 11, 2012

DJ-Winner

oldlady12
I've just read through the 42 comments ahead of mine, and DJW is the only one defending JZ. It must be lonely to be him.
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All provinces except Lompopo and portion of Gauteng want him to continue to rule ANC. It seems nearly all ANC people want him to continue to rule.....I guess I'm not the only one.

Again, I don't care what the racists/tribalists here and some brainwashed people think. I express my views based on information I gathered....I won't let anyone tell me what to think...
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Oct 11, 2012

cocolucho

@DJwinner
You are so brainwashed that you can't even tell that your brain has'nt been washed in a while
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Oct 11, 2012

DJ-Winner

Gusheshe
Im sure DJ-Winner is the son of the Presedent of KZN Jacob Zuma. He is defending him with everything he has and im sure he is even prepared to take a bullet for him
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No man, I'm just telling the truth. It has nothing to do with defence. If you take your time and look at my comments not emotionally, you will understand.

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cocolucho
@DJwinner
$uck my co*kiness, l¡ck my persuasion, eat my words and $wallow your pride down, if you can't handle my comments then dont comment on them.
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Do you really believe those things are comments? ha ha ha...


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Oct 11, 2012

MommaC

DJ-Winner

How can you say that everyone wants Zuma except Limpopo and Gauteng? They haven't even had the branch meetings yet
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Oct 11, 2012

Tasto

@DJ-Winner - JZ is a liar and liability to anc&country don't mimmick him it makes u dumber than him with his grade4\std2 informal education!! Proverbs17:28 read it quickly for your sanity!!

"Man is an imitative animal. This quality is the germ of all education in him. From his cradle to his grave he is learning to do what he sees others do."


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Oct 11, 2012

RobinH

DJW: Information you have gathered..... Stuff past down from puppetmasters to willing parrots doesn't constitute information. That is what is commonly known as "disinformation" aka "propaganda" and is thus not worth the breath it came from.

MommaC: He's ALWAYS right, surely you know that by now, lol. After all he works on information to which only he seems to be privy. Talk about a God complex!
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Oct 11, 2012

cocolucho

@DJwinner
Is what you read on the comments page, if it is then its a comment. Do you understand?
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Oct 11, 2012

Gusheshe

@DJ-Winner

I dont want to argue with u its your right to defend that JZ cause we dont kno what benefit u get but lets say Motlanthe win in mangaung are u still going to vote for anc in the general elections?
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Oct 11, 2012

MissBhakajuju

Vumani booo... siyavuma !

thers a blogger on this forum... who even 4gets to shave his pu.bic hair & ar.mpits... just to defend zoomer..

he calls his name even @ mid-night.... he'd leave the house n.a.ked if he'd hear, he's passing by his street....



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Oct 11, 2012

MommaC

RobinH

Its the dangers of the goldfish bowl.

(mom and seuntjie doing well?)
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Oct 11, 2012

oldlady12

DJW, I would sit back and let the majority decide who the prez must be, without one single complaint, if it was really the majority deciding. In other words, if all the people in SA had a vote in who must be the prez of the country out of candidates from the winning party. This whole provinces and branches being in the majority thing is a load of bull. Dis baadjies vir boeties that makes them vote, not interest in the country.
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Oct 11, 2012

DJ-Winner

MommaC
DJ-Winner

How can you say that everyone wants Zuma except Limpopo and Gauteng? They haven't even had the branch meetings yet
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The leadership in those provinces has announced its preferred candidates. The final decision is made by leaders....

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Tasto
@DJ-Winner - JZ is a liar and liability to anc&country don't mimmick him it makes u dumber than him with his grade4\std2 informal education!! Proverbs17:28 read it quickly for your sanity!!
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The majority of the ANC people don't think so. Well, he has grade4\std2 because he was in jail serving time for your freedom that you are free today to talk all this nonsense...
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Oct 11, 2012

cocolucho

@missbhakajuju
Siyavuma...lol!!

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Oct 11, 2012

DJ-Winner

MissBhakajuju
Vumani booo... siyavuma !

thers a blogger on this forum... who even 4gets to shave his pu.bic hair & ar.mpits... just to defend zoomer..

he calls his name even @ mid-night.... he'd leave the house n.a.ked if he'd hear, he's passing by his street....
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What is this now? Are you trying to tell us that you don't shave? You might be stinking, especially in this heat...

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Gusheshe
@DJ-Winner

I dont want to argue with u its your right to defend that JZ cause we dont kno what benefit u get but lets say Motlanthe win in mangaung are u still going to vote for anc in the general elections?
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Again, I'm not defending anyone here. I'm expressing my views. Is Mothlante going to stand in Manguang?


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Oct 11, 2012

RobinH

MissBhaka: BRILLIANT. Thanks for the chuckle.

MommaC: As far as I know. I think dad is very busy so have not heard much since 11. All was excellent then.
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Oct 11, 2012

Tasto

@DJ-Winner
MommaC
DJ-Winner

How can you say that everyone wants Zuma except Limpopo and Gauteng? They haven't even had the branch meetings yet
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The leadership in those provinces has announced its preferred candidates. The final decision is made by leaders....

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Tasto
@DJ-Winner - JZ is a liar and liability to anc&country don't mimmick him it makes u dumber than him with his grade4\std2 informal education!! Proverbs17:28 read it quickly for your sanity!!
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The majority of the ANC people don't think so. Well, he has grade4\std2 because he was in jail serving time for your freedom that you are free today to talk all this nonsense...

Stop lying to yourself, I OWE him nor ANC fokol!!
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Oct 11, 2012

RobinH

DJW: "Again, I'm not defending anyone here. I'm expressing my views." OK then, if you say so. Allow some of us to differ. re your question: Why are you asking. You're the one with all the right information, lol......
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Oct 11, 2012

Gusheshe

@DJ-Winner

You are not answering my question. Motlanthe is the peoples preferred candidate to challenge JZ in mangaung so if he(Motlanthe) wins are u going to vote anc in 2014 general elections? simple answer yes or no
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Oct 11, 2012

Kekgethegile

@DJW

The majority of the ANC people don't think so. Well, he has grade4\std2 because he was in jail serving time for your freedom that you are free today to talk all this nonsense...
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He was arrested and send to prison at the age of 21 in 1963. Was he still in std2 then ?
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Oct 11, 2012

cocolucho

@Robin
Are mommy and baby in good health?
As for that DJ,one wonders where and how he gets his info
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Oct 11, 2012

oldlady12

Thank you Kekgethegile.
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Oct 11, 2012

JohnStone

Those "babies" must just have their napkins changed before they develop a serious infection from "political immaturity rush". How old were they when former Director of Public Prosecutions Adv Bulelani Ngcuka publicly declared that "there was a prima facie case" but he was not going to prosecute Zuma since the "case was unwinable" in court?

From a legal perspective, also supported by many legal experts around the country, Ngcuka's pronouncements were a load of bollocks, above all very contradictory. If there is a prima facie case, the duty of the prosecutions authority is not to publicly "win" the case via the media, but to charge and present the case before a competent court and let the learned judges decide.

Furthermore, the reason behind Zuma believing that indeed there was a political conspiracy was the so-called "Off the Record" briefing Ngcuka gave to only senior black editors in a posh hotel under cover of darkness. In that briefing, Ngcuka told the journos that the reason he is not going to charge Zuma was that he wanted him "to dry politically in the court of public opinion". Zuma's guilt was decided through the media, leaks emmanating from Ngcuka's office about Zuma's "corrupt" practices were even noted by both the Public Protector and Judge Joost Heffer, the latter even asked Mbeki to take serious steps against Ngcuka for such malicious leaks of sensitive information whereas the subject was not even charged.

I wish those "babies" interviewed by the Bloody Pondering Panda could research the facts before expressing raw feelings fuelled by their blind loyalty to Juju. Zuma was denied justice since 2001 and endured the "corrupt label" until 2005 when he was finally charged, after that he decided to fight the NPA at each turn because it was obvious the charges were part of a ploy to "kill him off" politically.

There is virtually no comparison to be made between Zuma's and Juju's cases. Zuma was investigated, paraded in the media as "corrupt" but denied an opportunity to answer to the charges.

In Juju's case, the DA approached the Public Protector to investigate tender irregularities linked to Malema in Limpopo, Afriforum opened a case of corruption after the City Press expose' about Juju's high life. At that time, Malema publicly invited the law enforcement agencies together with SARS to "come and investigate me, they will find nothing", "I have never seen a million rand in my account", "I am paying bond on my 3 million rand house".

Now that we know the truth, to hell with Bloody Pondering Panda and the grossly ignorant youth.
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Oct 11, 2012

RobinH

coco: as far as I know they're fine. They're very far away - in Welkom - and I guess dad has his hands full, so I haven't heard anything since 11, but all was well then.
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Oct 11, 2012

Showerhead

DJ Winner you really working ppl's brains of here and yet you are not a delegate or member of the ANC. Zuma cant win in Mangaung just becos ppl came out from PECs to say they support him is not true on the ground they know it thats why they need cover with a 18M Buffalo Man.

We rather have Tokyo than Zuma, Mkhize is not Zumaman and his Secretary too and oh the fight for mayorship in EC OR Tambo region will serve as a proof that EC will go the other was

Zuma Kgalema
EC 239 437

Kzn 930 44

Limpopo 79 495

MP 316 151

Gp 126 294

FS 173 151

NW 79 155

NC 46 120

WC 43 135

PECs 73 107

ANCWL 30 15

ANCYL 8 37

ANC Vets 25 20

NEC 42 44

Total 2179 2321
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Oct 11, 2012

MommaC

DJ-Winner

Now that is just a bare faced lie. The premiers and such can indicate their PREFERENCE but the branches have more votes than they do. Not only one person from each province goes to the conference. I realise you are new to the ANC and have no idea how they work but you should really try and understand the process better
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Oct 11, 2012

RobinH

lol @ MommaC: Bye now. I'm outa here. Have a great evening. Bells, here I come.
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Oct 11, 2012

MommaC

RobinH

Enjoy :)
I'll toast to the little champ and his mom a bit later - promise
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Oct 11, 2012

SharpSharp

Let me repeat myself, In Dec we will remove JZ, the next day recall him and after that charge him...3 days in DECEMBER BYE BYE JZ BYE BYE
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Oct 11, 2012

Showerhead

MommaC, DJ Winner is not an ANC member if he is he just joined from the IFP and he thinks the same applies in the ANC were leaders tell them who to vote for and they follow.
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Oct 11, 2012

Nqumla

Again the ANGLO-SAXONS are at it again. Surveys this and that. Everyone knows the same suverys showed Zuma was going to lose elections against Mbeki in Limpopo. He won. Again when COPE was born the surveys ran by ANGLO-SAXONS from Europe living in our country/long term visitors showed the ANC would win elections by 53%. ANC got 65% with a weaker candidate called Zuma need 1% to get two thirds.

Again the ANGLO-SAXONS are mouth pieces of the black children who see and expereience RACISM everyday in their socalled MODEL C schools. The trueth is blacks will continue VOTING ANC.

WE LIKE THE ANC WITH ITS FLOPS!!!!As Brenda Fassie said "SIYITHANDA INJALO"
Or as Chiefs fans would "Amakhois for Life". WE SAY ANC FOR LIFE!!!!
Until all SETTLERS return to Europe.
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Oct 11, 2012

Nqumla

To OLD AGING ANGLO-SAXONS online I have history lessons for ya'll
Ha ha Sowetan has been hijacked by whities who pretend to be black using names like Sipho or Baboona. Most dont see this as being RACIST.

EUROPEAN HISTORY
Germanic people Migration Patterns spreading around western Europe.
Fact the Germanic people migrated from the Scandinivian/Sweden area migrated to Holland, Germany,Britain,Belgium etc..
http://www.boudicca.de/frisian1.htm
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Oct 11, 2012

Nqumla

The born frees will do this or that hence. I have this to say about SA politics. The NP and DP knew that they will be out of power as they were under pressure from the world community. The DP(now DA) and NP decided to give in and allow talks with the ANC. They then had a plan to survive in SA politics after 1994 by splitting and REBRANDING themselves.

White Liberals in Post Apartheid South Africa
Pls read this is from Politics web its long but I have shortened it.
Where did this leave liberalism? The short answer is, that, as with mathematics at "Gö ttingen" under the Nazis, “there really is none, anymore”. Tony Leon’s misrule of the DEMOCRATIC PARTY/DA, and the weakening position of the Johannesburg cabal, eventually saw him lose control and be unceremoniously replaced by a duumvirate, the right-wing union-busting neoliberal Helen Zille in Cape Town, and the right-wing Afrikaner nationalist Sandra Botha (no close relative of the apartheid President, but a direct political descendant). Outside Parliament, neoliberalism rules unchecked in the press, the think-tanks (such as the Freedom of Expression Institute, Human rights Instittute etc..all ran by whites) these bodies curiously uninterested in corporate suppression of free expression and human rights) and to a great extent in academia, where big business calls the financial shots even for Trotskyites. It seems that liberalism was simply a passing fad which, now that it is no longer needed, has become an embarrassment to the corporate interests which pretended to foster it.

Since 1994 white liberalism has been racing to greet this opportunity (by re-inventing itself, changing its stance by being inclusive), hoping that at some stage it could (attract non white voters), with the help of big business, become the neoliberal front-rulers of South Africa. Ironically, however, they have been too slow and too incompetent. Now that neoliberal big business controls the ANC, it no longer needs the white liberals. It is perfectly likely that, having destroyed all capacity to pursue any meaningful agenda of their own (white interests keeping SA's mineral wealth and economy under the whites wing), the white liberals will see their hopes and dreams, along with all their values and principles, withering on the vine. It would be justice — though it comes at the expense of the people of South Africa, so it’s nothing to cheer about.

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Oct 11, 2012

Nqumla

I know for a fact even the likes of SOWETAN are under WHITE CONTROL unlike before the OLD AGING WHITE ANGLO-SAXON males like Boyle have befriended the SOWETAN deitors taking em closer to them. Hence the SOWETAN web page is flooded with WHITIES these days.

All the SOWETAN is doing now is spread PROPAGANDA. Thanx to those who have been befriended by 70 year olds.
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Oct 11, 2012

!!!Sinudeity!!!

Nqumla - The NP joined the ANC.
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Oct 11, 2012

!!!Sinudeity!!!

Nqumla - Hehe, methings you are the one spreading propaganda.
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Oct 11, 2012

!!!Sinudeity!!!

Nqumla - Arent whites allowed to comment on sowetan?

I didnt see the sign that says "Blacks only" on the frontpage :P
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Oct 11, 2012

Showerhead

Nqumla give us someone different than Zuma please how stupid do you think we are? We are the ANC foot soldiers brother every election we do door to door in urban areas and speak to coconuts laugh at you but you keep knocking the doors. But this time if Zuma return my car and my foot will never work for the ANC but against the national vote to the ANC and Provincial vote to the ANC. Spoil the NAtional vote campaign not vote DA I will never do that
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Oct 11, 2012

Mhambuma1

@malemafortenders
Thuli discovered 1 cent corruption In Limpopo but could not uncover over R1Bil corruption in Nkandla is that fairness the man should just stand for trial
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You are mumbling as usual; what has Inkandla project got to do with the misdemeanor that took place more than a decade ago. This court case wont be revived, remember Madiba's name had also been mentioned, hence the scraping of all the charges.
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Oct 11, 2012

Genitals

mxm, I hate this country. This country is belong to all who corrupt in it not who live in it.












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Oct 11, 2012

Honorable

Zuma must be incarcerated with immediate effect because since the charges are dropped, look how the situation is deteriorating with corruption in the government.

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Oct 15, 2012

mavovokhabs

Kids must grow. When have you ever had such unreasonable fact ? We did'nt sleep fighting for this and lawfully decision was taken. U cannot compare apple and the Guava, two fruits must be the same to make comparison on them. The fact that Zuma and Malema have wored the President wear it does not means they are the same. Malema have destroyed people some will loose their properties due to their weaknesses. The editors wish who sarbotage Zuma's movement and forward Malema's corruption must visit the phsycologist.
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Oct 15, 2012

mavovokhabs

Kids must grow. When have you ever had such unreasonable fact ? We did'nt sleep fighting for this and lawfully decision was taken. U cannot compare apple and the Guava, two fruits must be the same to make comparison on them. The fact that Zuma and Malema have wored the President wear it does not means they are the same. Malema have destroyed people some will loose their properties due to their weaknesses. The editors wish to sarbotage Zuma's movement and forward Malema's corruption must visit the phsycologist.
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