Sure, we can't blame all development in that area on Zuma. I'm only frowning on the cost of the roads. I have extensive construction experience, and the amounts compared to the km's sound exhorbitant to me. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Voetzek
they are trying to hide Zuma with Mbeki, even the dumba-dumba know that inkhandla was initiated by ZUMA Report Abuse
Everthing is about Nkandla here , What about other places who need a rural development, This man is a dictator but people cant see . Even his appointments are always qustionable eg Simelane and Snadile Ngcobo nothing is better about that man , Who can save our beloved country from this man with out morals Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
sh!tFaceSamsung
yahneh : seriously indeed msholozi is holding SA by its nose : alive with posibilities msanzi fosho : Report Abuse
Zuma is no different to the late Sicelo Siceka - morons who loot the state's coffers thinking that the public is not watching........
i mean half a billion rand for a small area, what the hell. This Mchunu is dragging Mbeki's name to glorify Zuma. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
oldlady12
Blackstone.lebs, that's how they fo.ol us. Get us argueing about if it is deserved or not, and we might overlook the "hidden" expenses. Same as the upgrading of his home. As I said before, we can replicate Bara, equipment and all for R100mil, but it goes over the heads of the supporters. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
comtsotsi
Honestly good people there is nothing wrong with the building of these two road networks,.Nkandla is a very rural area and it is inspiring to hear about such great developments. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
RobinH
F*CK ME! It doesn't stop. It has long been apparent that our leaders and their sycophants have absolutely no shame, but this is just rubbing our noses in it. Disgusting. One knows that road infrastructure throughout the country needs attention, so where do they start? At Fat Daddy's yard. SIS. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Tikoloshe
Well done Umsholozi o nthis great initiative. I have recently been up to Zululand where i grew up and I must commend you on the great deal of good infrustructure that is going on in our beautiful Province.
In our youth all the roads around Kwangwanazi were sand roads but now they are beautiful and all households are getting a small house on their ancestral residences which is very good to see!!!
People are very happy in our beautiful Province and all racial groups are working hard to help in their communities!!!
I'm glad you never contracted On Point and Julias's Ranatang Trust to fo the work otherwise we'd have seen no road like the state Limpopo is in. We spend the monies allocated to us by National Treasury very wisely for the development of our area. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
RobinH
comtsotsi: so is 80% of this large country. Why single out Nkandla to be high on the list? Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Lord-Have-Mercy
Road to Mangaung is Rocky, I know the roadlink between Eshowe to Enkandla is very dangerous to drive on there are some briges to be built along the way. Same applies between Enkandla to Kranskop.
By the time the new president takes over in 2019 there won't be necessary development needed to Enkandla. He will focus on other areas. Cool Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Bdoobs
“In fact former president Thabo Mbheki identified Nkandla and Msinga as priority areas needing development. This has nothing to do with President Zuma,” Mchunu said.
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This is lies, sky blue lies or grass green lies. Zuma should have never been a president, he should have been a Nkanlda ward councillor the very least. He took all SA money and invested it all in Nkanlda or his relatives. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
dennilton1
Mr Nombembe with due respect can't you see all those irregular spending are adding up at Enkandla. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Smaiza
But people is Nkandla don't deserve to be developed?
@RobinH
F*CK ME! It doesn't stop. It has long been apparent that our leaders and their sycophants have absolutely no shame, but this is just rubbing our noses in it. Disgusting. One knows that road infrastructure throughout the country needs attention, so where do they start? At Fat Daddy's yard. SIS.
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RobinH, you always act smart and the voice of reason here, well you really dont have my respect if you cant see that the media is deliberately not reporting on other developments, we all know you hate the President , but dont sink your intellectual any further, think about it, you trying to tell me that other provinces are not developing their rural areas, if thats the case, than all praise to KZN developments for building schools , roads and bridges, which the Apartheid govt dismally failed to do for our ppl. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Fred55
Zuma is going to win at Mangaung, which means we will have another 7 years of the man and his cronies chowing our tax money.
The big question is will the voters keep on voting for the ANC? Will they vote for the ANC in 2014?? Report Abuse
Yes, were still going to vote for the ANC and nothing wrong about that........ Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
sgubhusenkwishi
Yeah there is absolutely nothing wrong with roads building wherever the road is, that is for national interests as people around and along that road would benefit from the use of that road. Road is not a private thing it benefits the nation, we have to stop complaining blindly. I dont like Zuma but my eyes are not blind to see any development where the nation would benefit. So let us stop being the complaining cows for senseless issues.But if the complain is about the over expenditures on those roads in the name of development, yes investigation must be conducted, if the money was spent in developing Zuma's Kraals, yes that need to be investigated as it forms part to biase and corruption. But we cant boldly say people living in Nkandla and around there , they dont deserve roads, is only us who live in durban, joburg, Cape Town , Pretoria and other cities who deserve roads, that is silly discrimination of our own citizens. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
mrembozanyoro
ya ne thats strange indeed i mean, how can km cost 8.9m? Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Blackstone.lebs
oldlady12: ...and the trick works
Journalists go all out to tell us that the projects commenced during Mbeki era, as if it makes it ok.
There's nothing wrong with developing rural areas, whether it's Nkandla or Disaneng or Pomfret, as long as it benefits and improves the lives of the poor communities. The challenge is overspending, inflated costs, poor workmanship and lack of transparency associated with such projects. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
mokudubete
Oh gracious lord what did we do to deserve this as citizen of sa,we need divine intervention to make us aware of our plight and start using our heads when voting instead of our hearts and history. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
mrembozanyoro
i wonder who work out all of this quantities,am sure its zuma himself.dictator like my president juju said! Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
RobinH
ManoftheSoil. Thanks for the compliment. If you see my later comment you will note that I make a point to say "high on the list" and not "top of the list". Obviously there is cosmetic development elsewhere, but perhaps you could provide us with details, as I don't have them. Like most people, I, like you I suspect, am dependent on the media for information, but I do try and make use of several info platforms. Sowetan is only one of these, and I use it more for the comment facility than as an arbiter of truth. Obviously none of us will ever have a complete picture of the truth (if such a thing can even exist). So with respect, allow me to comment using the only perspectives the general public have at their disposal. And also with respect, would you prefer I rely on party or government spokespersons for information? In my view that would be a farce. Please note that I am in no way trying to be sarcastic here. I have a high respect for your views as seen here. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
E'FREE
As we speak there is development in the Qunu area, tar road in honor of Mandela, petrol garages B&B, musium, science school sponered by google and microsoft all in the name Mandela, but Mandela never used our tax to enrich himself.
Mbeki is the best Pres ths country has ever had. Mchunu is a lier. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
MommaC
Well at least the poor sods in the area will have some benefit and the taxpayer will be able to save on tyres and sumps for Zuma's large convoys.
I wonder who got the contract and if they will be able to build a road better than Sanral can build a highway Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
oldlady12
Blackstone.lebs...the trick works indeed. We fight Zuma vs Mbeki. White vs black. ANC vs DA. Nkandla vs Pofadder, and someone out there is making a kil.ling while we argue semantics instead of basics. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
BlackSeed
Mr. President JZ is simply improving on infrastructure that was either short build or never existed during the era of his predecessors. It’s not his fault that today’s prices are more expensive and that more developments has to happen; at least he is doing some developments, unlike others who never did.
Besides, prioritizing development based on votes is also expected.
I am all for upgrading the country but it just seems that it is being concentrated on one area which happens to be Herd Boys hometown and SO bl00dy expensive. Must be the yellow brick road Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Tlakenyobehle!
kolobe
what do anc members see in zuma?
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they see a spear showering them to the greener pastures Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
ManoftheSoil
@RobinH , I hear you, and i am no way fighting you, just the way we receive our information all of us.
@sgubhusenkwishi, i fully agree, i think the point we should be arguing here is if the cost is a true reflection, maybe all costs should be set and calculated before a tender goes out, there for ppl bidding for the tender will be judged on merits, skills and social involvement with the local communities, I am anot sure if the current President is the right man to take us to visionary leadership though.
How do we stop this, i mean really now. cant someone give good advice to Nkandla administration. One day is the king and his demands, the next day is the nkanlda upgrade, the only "rural" area in this country. After his term of office, are we expected to maintain this himalayan liability? My village has no electricity or passable roads network. We've been patient for 18 years...This is looting of state resources. God Help Us All! Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
asaowe
where are the opposition parties? opps i 4got in same govnment sliping wth the enemy. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
mdubela
@ E'FREE...i am with all the way. That's logic with proof right there. Report Abuse
@comtsotsi: so is 80% of this large country. Why single out Nkandla to be high on the list?
Im not sigling out any Area .Would yor rather, the people of Nkandla stay in impoverished just because the President hails from there? That would be unfair on them Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Tasto
Ppl plse bear with me here eventhough I did arithmetic up to Maths II @UCT maar I can't keep up with the figures any more seriously how much did this thief ooops Jacob zuma stole ?
The above comment or query is directed to RobinH. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Dieheart
@Fred55
Zuma is going to win at Mangaung, which means we will have another 7 years of the man and his cronies chowing our tax money.
The big question is will the voters keep on voting for the ANC? Will they vote for the ANC in 2014??
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People must just vote wisely. Just take a look at the Auditor General Report, how busy Thuli Madonsela has been - investigating corruption in all spheres of govt, the Limpopo tender stories (On Point & Ratanang involvement) and text book debacles, the millions allegedly allocated to be spent at Nkandla, questionable appointments by the pres both in higher positions and lower positions (promotions of body guards 4 levels up), tragedy at Marikana, e-tolling controversy, etc then make up your mind. I dont have the positives I can immediately recall unfortunately. I am talking about the current leadership of the ANC both in the movement and in govt.
In Polokwane people voted with their hearts and not with their heads, same will happen in Mangaung, their personal vendettas are killing this country .... Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Gusheshe
Hahaha Ive seen that Lunatic Zoomer on news last night o fedile daai man o setse ka molala le that double head only im sure the effect of sleeping with an hiv daughter of a friend and taking a shower afterwards are now in full swing. its just my thought im not saying its like that. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Smaiza
@Dieheart
@Fred55
Zuma is going to win at Mangaung, which means we will have another 7 years of the man and his cronies chowing our tax money.
The big question is will the voters keep on voting for the ANC? Will they vote for the ANC in 2014??
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People must just vote wisely. Just take a look at the Auditor General Report, how busy Thuli Madonsela has been - investigating corruption in all spheres of govt, the Limpopo tender stories (On Point & Ratanang involvement) and text book debacles, the millions allegedly allocated to be spent at Nkandla, questionable appointments by the pres both in higher positions and lower positions (promotions of body guards 4 levels up), tragedy at Marikana, e-tolling controversy, etc then make up your mind. I dont have the positives I can immediately recall unfortunately. I am talking about the current leadership of the ANC both in the movement and in govt.
Thuli Madonsela, she's so bias. She take side to much. I still feel that report from CT were she decided to change based on court treats by DA was a flop. There are too many white people who defraud the government but their are not subjected to investigation. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Tasto
Hulle wil nie antwoord gee nie of wat u don't answer & aniphenduli or can't tally the figures stolen neh?
Aagh man R582 just stand for Rural road to Nkanda ka Zuma !! Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Mogwapatholo
I'm no Zuma fan But let's be objective people there's nothong wrong with building this road, after all this is apublic road. the road is for all who wanna use it, the price might be the problem but that is the logistics of the contract. @oldlady i don't dismiss your extensive construction experience but i think road at rural areas are i little expensive than urbun cause of the rivers, mountans. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
BSCARED
Mmetla shapo la tsela...this is getting out of hand...the support for zuma has two sides, blind loyalty and ethnicity which is equal to tribalism., IF zuma comes back a champion at Mangaung, the ANC will go down come 2014...The ANC must really choose either to continue governing or give power to DA. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
shrink7
Leave my president(Mbeki) out of this mess, only thing we disagreed on with my president was issues around HIV, ke pheto ke tuu. So please solve your issues with your president(zooma) without dragging us in, and i know my president will intelligently respond in due course. tardy zooma mxm. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
mokudubete
we are reaping results of people voting with their heart who are always been emotionally blackmailed that apartheid will be back if voting another party,now we better all suffer the concequences of irresponsible people who don't want to learn politics but claim to understand them.good people word of advice especially those who think we will see apaertheid again,we will never go back there,even if freedom front can win the election tomorrow.stop being ignorant use your head for a change. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
sgubhusenkwishi
Let us not play a man good people , people wont understand us, let us play the ball that comes with a man. The money spent on roads, hospitals, schools, is well spent for the nation interests. But if we oppose that and we say there are parts of our country who dont deserve such service, we are out of our minds. We can argue to healthy to regulate the balance in such service distribution to reach all the parts of the counry at equal rate, but being negative to national service delivery is senseless. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
RobinH
comtsotsi: I won't dignify that travesty of logic with a response. Bye now. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
RobinH
Smaiza: Please leave your racist rhetoric in the toilet where it belongs. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Gusheshe
I dont like this dude Zoomer and its not a secret i wish he can jst see that he is not president material and resiqn today Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Smaiza
More than R 300 Billion rand was allocated to infrastructure of this country for this current financial year but media focus mainly to Nkandla area. Lets say R 300 Billion minus +/-R 800 million (for Nkandla and surrounding areas) = +/- R 298 Billion left. Can the media tell us where other developments are taking place? Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Tasto
"When money is built into a jail to hold humankind
and love has died and compassion is unknown...
and lies become truth... and truth becomes a lie in a nameless city"
Is that jail the bunker in Nkanda ka Zuma and that nameless city the one Flyod called impratical city "Nkandla" ?
Phathuza
Everthing is about Nkandla here , What about other places who need a rural development, This man is a dictator but people cant see . Even his appointments are always qustionable eg Simelane and Snadile Ngcobo nothing is better about that man , Who can save our beloved country from this man with out morals.
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100% correct. This immoral man is not ony a dictator but a tribalist also. Just have a chech at all the top dogs in the security cluster. God please have mercy on us.
By the time Zuma's done, SA will be bankrupt Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Papage
He just can't listen to anyone heh! he does as he likes. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
dmstephen
I NEED TO PAY TOLL FEES,ETOLL,TAX,BUY EXPENSIVE PETROL,PAY RENT,BUY ELECTRICITY,BUY WATER AND BUY EXPENSIVE FOOD SO I CAN LIVE IN SA YAH NEH WHILST OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE SITTING AT THEIR WELL BUILD HOMES ARE SPLASHING OUT MONEY TO BUILD "INKADLA" OR WHATEVER IS CALLED MXM Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Luvtoy
Bubulongo kodwa obu! no conscious!! Sies!!!
There's thousands and thousands of poeple out there without roof on top of their heads, others getting poor quality RDP houses because he (Zuma) doesnt care who gets the tender. I can tell you now he is getting the best construction company (chances are it will be an overseas company) to build this ideal castle.
Non-profit organizations need this money to help our needy community, sies! akanasazela lo tata. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Dieheart
@Smaiza
Thuli Madonsela, she's so bias. She take side to much. I still feel that report from CT were she decided to change based on court treats by DA was a flop. There are too many white people who defraud the government but their are not subjected to investigation.
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Oh really? Then she must be removed from the office if she cannot do her work based on threats of court action. I hope there is substance to your allegation. Just for the record I am not a DA supporter or member. Just an ordinary citizen who is entitled to see the fruits of my tax contributions. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Phuphethakatha
@kolobe
what do anc members see in zuma?
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Two heads and one spear. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
oldlady12
Mogwapatholo, I used some basic formulas used by all engineers for rural areas, and the figure is exhorbitant. However, I will add that it is not only in this case. It happens all over all the time. Competent companies will tender for 25% less, but will not get the tender because somewhere someone is benefitting largely at the taxpayers expense. We must all stop fighting Nkandla vs Pofadder or black vs white, and start doing basic sums and compare it with costs to other similar projects all over the world. SAns are getting scre.wed over with almost every construction project that goes out, and they don't even realise it. And that is scre.wed over by government and private companies as their fingers are in the same pie. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Gusheshe
Sebikibiki
100% correct. This immoral man is not ony a dictator but a tribalist also. Just have a chech at all the top dogs in the security cluster. God please have mercy on us.
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Not only this man is a tribalist his followers too i dnt kno wat they see in this felow. Luckily im no longer associated with this anc thing. We need change of the ruling party period. DA has my vote Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Tasto
@Dieheart
@Smaiza
Thuli Madonsela, she's so bias. She take side to much. I still feel that report from CT were she decided to change based on court treats by DA was a flop. There are too many white people who defraud the government but their are not subjected to investigation.
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Oh really? Then she must be removed from the office if she cannot do her work based on threats of court action. I hope there is substance to your allegation. Just for the record I am not a DA supporter or member. Just an ordinary citizen who is entitled to see the fruits of my tax contributions.MEC
Do u beleive Willies Mchunu or Thulas Nxesi ? The less said abt his supporters here on this blog the better to say the least !! Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Hehe, the irony is Joburg folks will be paying for these roads via eToll. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Dieheart
@Gusheshe
Not only this man is a tribalist his followers too i dnt kno wat they see in this felow. Luckily im no longer associated with this anc thing. We need change of the ruling party period. DA has my vote
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I think people who still want to vote for the ANC at this time, are people who are gullible and/or who have vested interests in getting favours (tenders and top jobs) when the current leadership is voted to power again. What good has come out of the current regime since being in power? I agree with you, again I am saying people need to vote wisely in the next elections. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Stimela
every development that goes to Nkandla is seen sin, why? why don't these journalist mention that the road from melmoth to Dundee(KZN) has recently been upgraded with millions of rands, why dont they mention the road upgrade from empangeni to Richards bay(KZN) which took millions of rands.
Does Nkandla deserve to stay poor and rural just because its Jacob Zuma's hometown, i say NO. there are a lot of road upgrades and developments here in KZN and Nkandla is part of KZN. nxa ningazongidina la! demede man......... Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Dzel
How are the people of Nklandla paying for their road which will be used exclusively by them, is he going to replicate e-tolling for them as well?
The logic in the ANC is user pays, why should I pay for these roads given I live in Gauteng and will probably never set foot in Nkandla?
Tulas Nxesi resigns as a teacher but continues to serve as national SG for SADTU, 2007 he defend campaigns for Zuma using SADTU , polokwane zuma wins over mbeki, Tulas goes to Paliament, before we know it, Tulas becomes Minister and continues to defend zuma.
If zuma becomes th Pres again, Tulas will become of Minister of Finance. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Dieheart
@E'FREE
Tulas Nxesi resigns as a teacher but continues to serve as national SG for SADTU, 2007 he defend campaigns for Zuma using SADTU , polokwane zuma wins over mbeki, Tulas goes to Paliament, before we know it, Tulas becomes Minister and continues to defend zuma.
If zuma becomes th Pres again, Tulas will become of Minister of Finance.
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Lets hope it does not go that far man. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Sipho2001
AT THE END OF IT ALL THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN R1 Billion SPENT ON ZUMA KRAAL. SO HE CAN DRINK BEER WITH HIS 40 WIVES AND SLEEP UNDER THE MARULA TREE, PROGRESS AFRICAN STYLE.
YOU DU.MB ANC SUPPORTERS YOU VOTED FOR THIS RETARD TO RUN OUR COUNTRY AND NOW IT'S GOING DOWN THE TOILET FAST. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
sgubhusenkwishi
If D.A.was in power ,they wouldnt even bother building roads in the rural areas, they would just build you the open toilets to shut your mouths up and pocket the millions without any media or bloggers opinions or any speculations. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
zasi
BLAH BLAH BLAH Thank you Zuma for the road especially the one from Nkandla to Eshowe it was really bad. We the people of Nkandla are greatfull and we can`t wait for the new mall. Mshini wami Mshini wami we baba awulethu mshini wami Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
DJ-Winner
According to the Mercury, Mchunu said the projects were considered before Zuma became president.
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Thank you... Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Smaiza
@Gusheshe
Sebikibiki
100% correct. This immoral man is not ony a dictator but a tribalist also. Just have a chech at all the top dogs in the security cluster. God please have mercy on us.
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Not only this man is a tribalist his followers too i dnt kno wat they see in this felow. Luckily im no longer associated with this anc thing. We need change of the ruling party period. DA has my vote
How can I do that? I have no clue.......how to do that. Show me how please......waiting!!!waiting!!!. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Gusheshe
@sgubhuwhatwhat
Its your opinion what u said and we respect dat. We have a DA councilor where i originally come from and its in a rural area bt there are Tar roads that are being build so what have u based your assumptions on what? Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Smaiza
@Gusheshe
@sgubhuwhatwhat
Its your opinion what u said and we respect dat. We have a DA councilor where i originally come from and its in a rural area bt there are Tar roads that are being build so what have u based your assumptions on what?
Did your DA councilor give feedback how much was budgeted for that Tar roads? if yes, how did the community verify that allocated budget was true? Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Diva7
Motherfucker!!!!! That's all I can say!! Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Gusheshe
@Smaiza
Its your choice boss to stick with your rotten anc and i bet you will only vote anc if Zuma retains his position bt shud Motlanthe win you wont vote i guess.
About the budget for the construction of the tar road, well i dnt kno bt what i can say is the construction is still work in progress and a Competent company has been given the tender to do the job cause u can see that they kno what they are doing and local people have been employed so its a good thing Report Abuse
You hypocrites you pretend as if Zuma. Elected himself in this position, yet you were all diehards, how stupid you were to think a person who escaped a corruption trial by using the state machinery was going to be clean, I wish Zuma should embezzle more money than Mobuto just to spite you ANC voters. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
KukuyaLethosa
Why only in Nkandla when there are so many worse off rural areas all over the country? And then again, why build everything there, is Nkandla the only rural place in SA? We're sick and tired and we'll show our anger through the voting ballots. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Smaiza
@Gusheshe
@Smaiza
Its your choice boss to stick with your rotten anc and i bet you will only vote anc if Zuma retains his position bt shud Motlanthe win you wont vote i guess.
About the budget for the construction of the tar road, well i dnt kno bt what i can say is the construction is still work in progress and a Competent company has been given the tender to do the job cause u can see that they kno what they are doing and local people have been employed so its a good thing
Even where I stay, we have completed Tar roads, new water meter box...free solar geyser, better electricity..All were installed by ANC councilor. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
mambaaai
and when they do some maintenance on the roads in the countries "economic engine" they tax those people with e toll..... I mean....WTF maybe the e toll money was meant for these roads.... oh wait they are spending this in addition to the e toll mess.....wtf! Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Skhumbasengwenya
There is nothing wrong about developing rural villages.Amabhunu developed their places, where our grandparents were not allowed to set foot.Mandela also developed his village (Qunu),you will understand if you have been there. The old English saying"Charity begins at home " is not a joke people,useza nangakini uGedleyhlekisa.Nami if I was Pres I was going to develope my villages around kwaMhlab'uyalingana,so that when you guys you visit to get strong muthi,you just cruise on highways.Is it not nice.Relax people give uMsholozi 2nd term,he's coming to your village. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
oldlady12
Smaiza, all those things were installed by the tax and ratepayers. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Tasto
@Skhumbasengwenya - is lie becoming truth now? He just got R29m for security upgrade!!the house was a donation just like the car "Wbenzi" from the workers\union aligned to anc baba!!
DJ-Winner
According to the Mercury, Mchunu said the projects were considered before Zuma became president.
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Thank you...
Usually you say you will wait for more information before you comment? But now you quick to believe this report without any further information??? Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
mambaaai
Skhumbasengwenya
There is nothing wrong about developing rural villages.Amabhunu developed their places, where our grandparents were not allowed to set foot.Mandela also developed his village (Qunu),you will understand if you have been there. The old English saying"Charity begins at home " is not a joke people,useza nangakini uGedleyhlekisa.Nami if I was Pres I was going to develope my villages around kwaMhlab'uyalingana,so that when you guys you visit to get strong muthi,you just cruise on highways.Is it not nice.Relax people give uMsholozi 2nd term,he's coming to your village.
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Look at the mess the country is in his 1st term..... by the end of the second term we will be the same as Zimabwe, by the end of the second terms the whole countries schools will be out of text books... all the country will be burning..... all the country will be striking..........all of the people will be artists painting d!cks every where...... because there will be up to 1000 new wives in the new Homesteads...... there will be no water for all the country..... our currency has slipped so far already.... pushing inflation, the poor will be starving to death........we have already lost over half our farmers....we will have to import food with our weak currency..... import our food from the Anti Dali Lama people..... already we have lost so many jobs because of these people..... we will lose even more because in the second term things will only accellrate Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Druza25
Rural development is a very good thing and it builds the communities who benefit from this kind of developments, well done on that one. But even though I am no expert in building roads and bridges, but the amounts involved are just too much. When will the looting stop. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
He now wants to construct Makhumaloville the reason he wants to lead SA for the second time. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
DA-DBN-GUY
Druza25
Rural development is a very good thing and it builds the communities who benefit from this kind of developments, well done on that one. But even though I am no expert in building roads and bridges, but the amounts involved are just too much. When will the looting stop.
At the end of the day Ncuntla will have benefitted near R1billion in upgrades.I am all for rural development but surely people cant think that this is just co-incidence? Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
The leadrship of this country has to be given to christians indeed in the name of Jesus they'll take us to the greener pasture because these unti-Christ failed.
I'm just saying. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Tikoloshe
...Well done Umkhulu on this very good initiative!!!! This must be seen as a very good initiative to improve the lives of the poor people in our rural areas and accepted by all.
Because of all your good efforts, Comrade DiTikiloshe, DJ Winner, Stimela, Dandan,RobinH, Sinuidity, Somaartekeit and all your other fans on this blogg grant you a 3rd term Umkhulu.
Even where I stay, we have completed Tar roads, new water meter box...free solar geyser, better electricity..All were installed by ANC councilor
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Ag sham Smaiza. You talk as if its a favour from the ANC for you to get those goods and services. I am disappointed. One thing you must be made aware of is that "you are ENTITLED to get those goods and services" Its not their money. Its our money. We the taxpayers. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
mambaaai
Tikoloshe
...Well done Umkhulu on this very good initiative!!!! This must be seen as a very good initiative to improve the lives of the poor people in our rural areas and accepted by all.
Because of all your good efforts, Comrade DiTikiloshe, DJ Winner, Stimela, Dandan,RobinH, Sinuidity, Somaartekeit and all your other fans on this blogg grant you a 3rd term Umkhulu.
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not convinced the greatest number of poor have been helped, not convinced this is the greatest good that could have been done with the money..... Tikoloshe maybe we need each project to be rated like hospitals or water more critical than roads... then also look how many people per rand spent has been helped.... Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Smaiza
@SEBIKIBIKI
@Smaiza
I will still vote ANC.
Even where I stay, we have completed Tar roads, new water meter box...free solar geyser, better electricity..All were installed by ANC councilor
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Ag sham Smaiza. You talk as if its a favour from the ANC for you to get those goods and services. I am disappointed. One thing you must be made aware of is that "you are ENTITLED to get those goods and services" Its not their money. Its our money. We the taxpayers.
I also pay tax and services. There are people from Nkandla paying taxes and rate staying in urban arear's. Stop talking as if your only one paying taxes and services. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Smaiza - "I also pay tax and services. There are people from Nkandla paying taxes and rate staying in urban arear's. Stop talking as if your only one paying taxes and services."
Not enough taxes to be able to afford all these expenses. Your money comes from other provinces. 75% of WCape's tax income goes to other provinces. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
oldlady12
Mambaai, at first I thought your persons helped per rand is a good idea, but in restrospect that would only lead to more overcrowding in the cities and the people in rural areas never getting anything. A 23km road is a 23km road, whether in a city or in a rural area, and if its needed, its needed. No, we should get proper insight into all the monies spent by government, and the rand per km amount for roads should be the same everywhere on all projects. The ancient old formula for calculating what should be spent still works perfectly fine, and these two roads were grossly overspent. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Smaiza
@!!!Sinudeity!!!
Smaiza - "I also pay tax and services. There are people from Nkandla paying taxes and rate staying in urban arear's. Stop talking as if your only one paying taxes and services."
Not enough taxes to be able to afford all these expenses. Your money comes from other provinces. 75% of WCape's tax income goes to other provinces.
Smaiza - But thats the point. Its not the peeps from KZN paying for these upgrades, its the peeps from Gauteng and WCape. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Winilen
@shrink7
Leave my president(Mbeki) out of this mess, only thing we disagreed on with my president was issues around HIV, ke pheto ke tuu. So please solve your issues with your president(zooma) without dragging us in, and i know my president will intelligently respond in due course. tardy zooma mxm.
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Oct 10, 2012
Winilen
@Smaiza
More than R 300 Billion rand was allocated to infrastructure of this country for this current financial year but media focus mainly to Nkandla area. Lets say R 300 Billion minus +/-R 800 million (for Nkandla and surrounding areas) = +/- R 298 Billion left. Can the media tell us where other developments are taking place?
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Good Question, where is the balance of the MONEY goes too... just because the media does not report the devolopment of other areas does not mean they are not devolped... Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
oldlady12
To all who see nothing wrong with the exhorbitant amounts spent on these roads, I'm glad to have read your comments. It is nice to know we have so many rich people in our country. Soon poverty will be a thing of the past. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
guiliano
comtsotsi
Honestly good people there is nothing wrong with the building of these two road networks,.Nkandla is a very rural area and it is inspiring to hear about such great developments.
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Really!!!!!! so is Mqanduli in the Eastern Cape.
Whta happened to the infrastructure that JZ promised us in his speech ealier this year,he multi billion road developments in mpumalanga,limpopo,NW and NC nothing is happening all we see is the development that is happening around Nkandla.
Zuma is miss usinging our tax money and the sooner he retire as the country's president the better we need someone with one head that can think better not someone with two heads but cant think at all. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Smaiza
@!!!Sinudeity!!!
Smaiza - But thats the point. Its not the peeps from KZN paying for these upgrades, its the peeps from Gauteng and WCape.
KZN is the second when comes to equity shares the W.Cape. KZN (including Nkandla) deserve to be developed. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
Senganga247
Nwanawamukalaha
Zuma is no different to the late Sicelo Siceka - morons who loot the state's coffers thinking that the public is not watching........
i mean half a billion rand for a small area, what the hell. This Mchunu is dragging Mbeki's name to glorify Zuma.
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That's all we can do. Watch them looting. But what's more interesting is that ANC members still believe He is the right man to lead ANC. I am honestly starting to think of my options on who to vote for. Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
somaartakeit
it gets worse by the minute, exorbitant expenditure of tax payers money, its going to be interesting to see how much support the anc still has, Report Abuse
That's well and good, in fact a very commendable thing to have Rural Development. However Rural Development is NOT only about building infrastructure which should be at value for money, but actually supporting economic industries which such infrastructure will develop. We don't want no erstwhile Bophuthatswana, Venda, Ciskei, Transkei type of infrastructure development which eventually cannot self sustain itself.
Secondly Nkandla and/or KZN MUST not be the only rural area that obtain rural development support. What happened to the village in Limpopo which was the flagship of rural development? Last that was heard of it from the MInister of Monitoring was that there is still no water even though money was spent for some water supply.
Funny enough when service delivery is for Nkandla government fast-tracks everything whereas in other rural development by government is at slow pace.
....oldlady you can't work by R/km; you know that in that area there are a lot of mountains and the soil is very hard. What about the bridges required?
You can't build a road in the Hymalaya's at the same price as in Freestata!!
It's better we build the road then deposit the monies in Ranatang Trust account!!!
Wordoftruth
"What happened to the village in Limpopo which was the flagship of rural development? Last that was heard of it from the MInister of Monitoring was that there is still no water even though money was spent for some water supply......"
....the monies are sitting in Ranatang Trust account, the rest running around Limps in the form of white Range Rovers!!!!
According to the Mercury, Mchunu said the projects were considered before Zuma became president
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this male b***h is lying they were considering to upgrade it with what money. Report Abuse
Oct 11, 2012
Mhambuma1
People must also take note that Nkandla's roads, being a hilly rural village, is gonna cost more than building say, a Soweto road network wich is on a flat surface. So @Blackstone, go back to school where you studied accounting and demand your school fee back. Report Abuse
Oct 11, 2012
Mhambuma1
Once Nkandla has been developed, it will serve communities from 3 other nearest smal towns of Kranskop, Showe, Maphumulo..and even more. Report Abuse
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oldlady12
Sure, we can't blame all development in that area on Zuma. I'm only frowning on the cost of the roads. I have extensive construction experience, and the amounts compared to the km's sound exhorbitant to me.Report Abuse
Voetzek
they are trying to hide Zuma with Mbeki, even the dumba-dumba know that inkhandla was initiated by ZUMAReport Abuse
kolobe
what do anc members see in zuma?Report Abuse
Hail
Ja ne!Report Abuse
Phathuza
Everthing is about Nkandla here , What about other places who need a rural development, This man is a dictator but people cant see . Even his appointments are always qustionable eg Simelane and Snadile Ngcobo nothing is better about that man , Who can save our beloved country from this man with out moralsReport Abuse
sh!tFaceSamsung
yahneh : seriously indeed msholozi is holding SA by its nose : alive with posibilities msanzi fosho :Report Abuse
Blackstone.lebs
R 8,9M/Km ?Report Abuse
Nwanawamukalaha
Zuma is no different to the late Sicelo Siceka - morons who loot the state's coffers thinking that the public is not watching........i mean half a billion rand for a small area, what the hell. This Mchunu is dragging Mbeki's name to glorify Zuma.
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oldlady12
Blackstone.lebs, that's how they fo.ol us. Get us argueing about if it is deserved or not, and we might overlook the "hidden" expenses. Same as the upgrading of his home. As I said before, we can replicate Bara, equipment and all for R100mil, but it goes over the heads of the supporters.Report Abuse
comtsotsi
Honestly good people there is nothing wrong with the building of these two road networks,.Nkandla is a very rural area and it is inspiring to hear about such great developments.
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RobinH
F*CK ME! It doesn't stop. It has long been apparent that our leaders and their sycophants have absolutely no shame, but this is just rubbing our noses in it. Disgusting. One knows that road infrastructure throughout the country needs attention, so where do they start? At Fat Daddy's yard. SIS.Report Abuse
Tikoloshe
Well done Umsholozi o nthis great initiative. I have recently been up to Zululand where i grew up and I must commend you on the great deal of good infrustructure that is going on in our beautiful Province.In our youth all the roads around Kwangwanazi were sand roads but now they are beautiful and all households are getting a small house on their ancestral residences which is very good to see!!!
People are very happy in our beautiful Province and all racial groups are working hard to help in their communities!!!
I'm glad you never contracted On Point and Julias's Ranatang Trust to fo the work otherwise we'd have seen no road like the state Limpopo is in. We spend the monies allocated to us by National Treasury very wisely for the development of our area.
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RobinH
comtsotsi: so is 80% of this large country. Why single out Nkandla to be high on the list?Report Abuse
Lord-Have-Mercy
Road to Mangaung is Rocky, I know the roadlink between Eshowe to Enkandla is very dangerous to drive on there are some briges to be built along the way. Same applies between Enkandla to Kranskop.By the time the new president takes over in 2019 there won't be necessary development needed to Enkandla. He will focus on other areas. Cool
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Bdoobs
“In fact former president Thabo Mbheki identified Nkandla and Msinga as priority areas needing development. This has nothing to do with President Zuma,” Mchunu said._______________
This is lies, sky blue lies or grass green lies. Zuma should have never been a president, he should have been a Nkanlda ward councillor the very least. He took all SA money and invested it all in Nkanlda or his relatives.
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dennilton1
Mr Nombembe with due respect can't you see all those irregular spending are adding up at Enkandla.Report Abuse
Smaiza
But people is Nkandla don't deserve to be developed?Report Abuse
ManoftheSoil
@RobinHF*CK ME! It doesn't stop. It has long been apparent that our leaders and their sycophants have absolutely no shame, but this is just rubbing our noses in it. Disgusting. One knows that road infrastructure throughout the country needs attention, so where do they start? At Fat Daddy's yard. SIS.
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RobinH, you always act smart and the voice of reason here, well you really dont have my respect if you cant see that the media is deliberately not reporting on other developments, we all know you hate the President , but dont sink your intellectual any further, think about it, you trying to tell me that other provinces are not developing their rural areas, if thats the case, than all praise to KZN developments for building schools , roads and bridges, which the Apartheid govt dismally failed to do for our ppl.
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Fred55
Zuma is going to win at Mangaung, which means we will have another 7 years of the man and his cronies chowing our tax money.The big question is will the voters keep on voting for the ANC? Will they vote for the ANC in 2014??
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Smaiza
@Fred55Zuma is going to win at Mangaung, which means we will have another 7 years of the man and his cronies chowing our tax money.
The big question is will the voters keep on voting for the ANC? Will they vote for the ANC in 2014??
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Yes, were still going to vote for the ANC and nothing wrong about that........
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sgubhusenkwishi
Yeah there is absolutely nothing wrong with roads building wherever the road is, that is for national interests as people around and along that road would benefit from the use of that road. Road is not a private thing it benefits the nation, we have to stop complaining blindly. I dont like Zuma but my eyes are not blind to see any development where the nation would benefit. So let us stop being the complaining cows for senseless issues.But if the complain is about the over expenditures on those roads in the name of development, yes investigation must be conducted, if the money was spent in developing Zuma's Kraals, yes that need to be investigated as it forms part to biase and corruption. But we cant boldly say people living in Nkandla and around there , they dont deserve roads, is only us who live in durban, joburg, Cape Town , Pretoria and other cities who deserve roads, that is silly discrimination of our own citizens.Report Abuse
mrembozanyoro
ya ne thats strange indeed i mean, how can km cost 8.9m?Report Abuse
Blackstone.lebs
oldlady12: ...and the trick worksJournalists go all out to tell us that the projects commenced during Mbeki era, as if it makes it ok.
There's nothing wrong with developing rural areas, whether it's Nkandla or Disaneng or Pomfret, as long as it benefits and improves the lives of the poor communities. The challenge is overspending, inflated costs, poor workmanship and lack of transparency associated with such projects.
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mokudubete
Oh gracious lord what did we do to deserve this as citizen of sa,we need divine intervention to make us aware of our plight and start using our heads when voting instead of our hearts and history.Report Abuse
mrembozanyoro
i wonder who work out all of this quantities,am sure its zuma himself.dictator like my president juju said!Report Abuse
RobinH
ManoftheSoil. Thanks for the compliment. If you see my later comment you will note that I make a point to say "high on the list" and not "top of the list". Obviously there is cosmetic development elsewhere, but perhaps you could provide us with details, as I don't have them. Like most people, I, like you I suspect, am dependent on the media for information, but I do try and make use of several info platforms. Sowetan is only one of these, and I use it more for the comment facility than as an arbiter of truth. Obviously none of us will ever have a complete picture of the truth (if such a thing can even exist). So with respect, allow me to comment using the only perspectives the general public have at their disposal. And also with respect, would you prefer I rely on party or government spokespersons for information? In my view that would be a farce. Please note that I am in no way trying to be sarcastic here. I have a high respect for your views as seen here.Report Abuse
E'FREE
As we speak there is development in the Qunu area, tar road in honor of Mandela, petrol garages B&B, musium, science school sponered by google and microsoft all in the name Mandela, but Mandela never used our tax to enrich himself.Mbeki is the best Pres ths country has ever had. Mchunu is a lier.
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MommaC
Well at least the poor sods in the area will have some benefit and the taxpayer will be able to save on tyres and sumps for Zuma's large convoys.I wonder who got the contract and if they will be able to build a road better than Sanral can build a highway
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oldlady12
Blackstone.lebs...the trick works indeed. We fight Zuma vs Mbeki. White vs black. ANC vs DA. Nkandla vs Pofadder, and someone out there is making a kil.ling while we argue semantics instead of basics.Report Abuse
BlackSeed
Mr. President JZ is simply improving on infrastructure that was either short build or never existed during the era of his predecessors. It’s not his fault that today’s prices are more expensive and that more developments has to happen; at least he is doing some developments, unlike others who never did.Besides, prioritizing development based on votes is also expected.
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Ratshufi
Zuma is having fun ka chelete ya taxReport Abuse
DA-DBN-GUY
I am all for upgrading the country but it just seems that it is being concentrated on one area which happens to be Herd Boys hometown and SO bl00dy expensive. Must be the yellow brick roadReport Abuse
Tlakenyobehle!
kolobewhat do anc members see in zuma?
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they see a spear showering them to the greener pastures
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ManoftheSoil
@RobinH , I hear you, and i am no way fighting you, just the way we receive our information all of us.@sgubhusenkwishi, i fully agree, i think the point we should be arguing here is if the cost is a true reflection, maybe all costs should be set and calculated before a tender goes out, there for ppl bidding for the tender will be judged on merits, skills and social involvement with the local communities, I am anot sure if the current President is the right man to take us to visionary leadership though.
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Tlakenyobehle!
Fred55Zuma is going to win at Mangaung, which means we will have another 7 years of the man and his cronies chowing our tax money.
The big question is will the voters keep on voting for the ANC? Will they vote for the ANC in 2014??
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the answer is yes!
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mdubela
How do we stop this, i mean really now. cant someone give good advice to Nkandla administration. One day is the king and his demands, the next day is the nkanlda upgrade, the only "rural" area in this country. After his term of office, are we expected to maintain this himalayan liability? My village has no electricity or passable roads network. We've been patient for 18 years...This is looting of state resources. God Help Us All!Report Abuse
asaowe
where are the opposition parties? opps i 4got in same govnment sliping wth the enemy.Report Abuse
mdubela
@ E'FREE...i am with all the way. That's logic with proof right there.Report Abuse
mdubela
@E'FREE meant "with you"Report Abuse
comtsotsi
@comtsotsi: so is 80% of this large country. Why single out Nkandla to be high on the list?
Im not sigling out any Area .Would yor rather, the people of Nkandla stay in impoverished just because the President hails from there? That would be unfair on them
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Tasto
Ppl plse bear with me here eventhough I did arithmetic up to Maths II @UCT maar I can't keep up with the figures any more seriously how much did this thief ooops Jacob zuma stole ?PS - I meant chief not THIEF !!
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comtsotsi
The above comment or query is directed to RobinH.Report Abuse
Dieheart
@Fred55Zuma is going to win at Mangaung, which means we will have another 7 years of the man and his cronies chowing our tax money.
The big question is will the voters keep on voting for the ANC? Will they vote for the ANC in 2014??
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People must just vote wisely. Just take a look at the Auditor General Report, how busy Thuli Madonsela has been - investigating corruption in all spheres of govt, the Limpopo tender stories (On Point & Ratanang involvement) and text book debacles, the millions allegedly allocated to be spent at Nkandla, questionable appointments by the pres both in higher positions and lower positions (promotions of body guards 4 levels up), tragedy at Marikana, e-tolling controversy, etc then make up your mind. I dont have the positives I can immediately recall unfortunately. I am talking about the current leadership of the ANC both in the movement and in govt.
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Mils
In Polokwane people voted with their hearts and not with their heads, same will happen in Mangaung, their personal vendettas are killing this country ....Report Abuse
Gusheshe
Hahaha Ive seen that Lunatic Zoomer on news last night o fedile daai man o setse ka molala le that double head only im sure the effect of sleeping with an hiv daughter of a friend and taking a shower afterwards are now in full swing. its just my thought im not saying its like that.Report Abuse
Smaiza
@Dieheart@Fred55
Zuma is going to win at Mangaung, which means we will have another 7 years of the man and his cronies chowing our tax money.
The big question is will the voters keep on voting for the ANC? Will they vote for the ANC in 2014??
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People must just vote wisely. Just take a look at the Auditor General Report, how busy Thuli Madonsela has been - investigating corruption in all spheres of govt, the Limpopo tender stories (On Point & Ratanang involvement) and text book debacles, the millions allegedly allocated to be spent at Nkandla, questionable appointments by the pres both in higher positions and lower positions (promotions of body guards 4 levels up), tragedy at Marikana, e-tolling controversy, etc then make up your mind. I dont have the positives I can immediately recall unfortunately. I am talking about the current leadership of the ANC both in the movement and in govt.
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Thuli Madonsela, she's so bias. She take side to much. I still feel that report from CT were she decided to change based on court treats by DA was a flop. There are too many white people who defraud the government but their are not subjected to investigation.
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Tasto
Hulle wil nie antwoord gee nie of wat u don't answer & aniphenduli or can't tally the figures stolen neh?Aagh man R582 just stand for Rural road to Nkanda ka Zuma !!
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Mogwapatholo
I'm no Zuma fan But let's be objective people there's nothong wrong with building this road, after all this is apublic road. the road is for all who wanna use it, the price might be the problem but that is the logistics of the contract. @oldlady i don't dismiss your extensive construction experience but i think road at rural areas are i little expensive than urbun cause of the rivers, mountans.Report Abuse
BSCARED
Mmetla shapo la tsela...this is getting out of hand...the support for zuma has two sides, blind loyalty and ethnicity which is equal to tribalism., IF zuma comes back a champion at Mangaung, the ANC will go down come 2014...The ANC must really choose either to continue governing or give power to DA.Report Abuse
shrink7
Leave my president(Mbeki) out of this mess, only thing we disagreed on with my president was issues around HIV, ke pheto ke tuu. So please solve your issues with your president(zooma) without dragging us in, and i know my president will intelligently respond in due course. tardy zooma mxm.Report Abuse
mokudubete
we are reaping results of people voting with their heart who are always been emotionally blackmailed that apartheid will be back if voting another party,now we better all suffer the concequences of irresponsible people who don't want to learn politics but claim to understand them.good people word of advice especially those who think we will see apaertheid again,we will never go back there,even if freedom front can win the election tomorrow.stop being ignorant use your head for a change.Report Abuse
sgubhusenkwishi
Let us not play a man good people , people wont understand us, let us play the ball that comes with a man. The money spent on roads, hospitals, schools, is well spent for the nation interests. But if we oppose that and we say there are parts of our country who dont deserve such service, we are out of our minds. We can argue to healthy to regulate the balance in such service distribution to reach all the parts of the counry at equal rate, but being negative to national service delivery is senseless.Report Abuse
RobinH
comtsotsi: I won't dignify that travesty of logic with a response. Bye now.Report Abuse
RobinH
Smaiza: Please leave your racist rhetoric in the toilet where it belongs.Report Abuse
Gusheshe
I dont like this dude Zoomer and its not a secret i wish he can jst see that he is not president material and resiqn todayReport Abuse
Smaiza
More than R 300 Billion rand was allocated to infrastructure of this country for this current financial year but media focus mainly to Nkandla area. Lets say R 300 Billion minus +/-R 800 million (for Nkandla and surrounding areas) = +/- R 298 Billion left. Can the media tell us where other developments are taking place?Report Abuse
Tasto
"When money is built into a jail to hold humankindand love has died and compassion is unknown...
and lies become truth... and truth becomes a lie in a nameless city"
Is that jail the bunker in Nkanda ka Zuma and that nameless city the one Flyod called impratical city "Nkandla" ?
Ps - This excerpt from a poem by Credo !!
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SEBIKIBIKI
PhathuzaEverthing is about Nkandla here , What about other places who need a rural development, This man is a dictator but people cant see . Even his appointments are always qustionable eg Simelane and Snadile Ngcobo nothing is better about that man , Who can save our beloved country from this man with out morals.
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100% correct. This immoral man is not ony a dictator but a tribalist also. Just have a chech at all the top dogs in the security cluster. God please have mercy on us.
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Umhle
By the time Zuma's done, SA will be bankruptReport Abuse
Papage
He just can't listen to anyone heh! he does as he likes.Report Abuse
dmstephen
I NEED TO PAY TOLL FEES,ETOLL,TAX,BUY EXPENSIVE PETROL,PAY RENT,BUY ELECTRICITY,BUY WATER AND BUY EXPENSIVE FOOD SO I CAN LIVE IN SA YAH NEH WHILST OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE SITTING AT THEIR WELL BUILD HOMES ARE SPLASHING OUT MONEY TO BUILD "INKADLA" OR WHATEVER IS CALLED MXMReport Abuse
Luvtoy
Bubulongo kodwa obu! no conscious!! Sies!!!There's thousands and thousands of poeple out there without roof on top of their heads, others getting poor quality RDP houses because he (Zuma) doesnt care who gets the tender. I can tell you now he is getting the best construction company (chances are it will be an overseas company) to build this ideal castle.
Non-profit organizations need this money to help our needy community, sies! akanasazela lo tata.
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Dieheart
@SmaizaThuli Madonsela, she's so bias. She take side to much. I still feel that report from CT were she decided to change based on court treats by DA was a flop. There are too many white people who defraud the government but their are not subjected to investigation.
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Oh really? Then she must be removed from the office if she cannot do her work based on threats of court action. I hope there is substance to your allegation. Just for the record I am not a DA supporter or member. Just an ordinary citizen who is entitled to see the fruits of my tax contributions.
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Phuphethakatha
@kolobewhat do anc members see in zuma?
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Two heads and one spear.
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oldlady12
Mogwapatholo, I used some basic formulas used by all engineers for rural areas, and the figure is exhorbitant. However, I will add that it is not only in this case. It happens all over all the time. Competent companies will tender for 25% less, but will not get the tender because somewhere someone is benefitting largely at the taxpayers expense. We must all stop fighting Nkandla vs Pofadder or black vs white, and start doing basic sums and compare it with costs to other similar projects all over the world. SAns are getting scre.wed over with almost every construction project that goes out, and they don't even realise it. And that is scre.wed over by government and private companies as their fingers are in the same pie.Report Abuse
Gusheshe
Sebikibiki100% correct. This immoral man is not ony a dictator but a tribalist also. Just have a chech at all the top dogs in the security cluster. God please have mercy on us.
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Not only this man is a tribalist his followers too i dnt kno wat they see in this felow. Luckily im no longer associated with this anc thing. We need change of the ruling party period. DA has my vote
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Tasto
@Dieheart@Smaiza
Thuli Madonsela, she's so bias. She take side to much. I still feel that report from CT were she decided to change based on court treats by DA was a flop. There are too many white people who defraud the government but their are not subjected to investigation.
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Oh really? Then she must be removed from the office if she cannot do her work based on threats of court action. I hope there is substance to your allegation. Just for the record I am not a DA supporter or member. Just an ordinary citizen who is entitled to see the fruits of my tax contributions.MEC
Do u beleive Willies Mchunu or Thulas Nxesi ? The less said abt his supporters here on this blog the better to say the least !!
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!!!Sinudeity!!!
Hehe, the irony is Joburg folks will be paying for these roads via eToll.Report Abuse
Dieheart
@GushesheNot only this man is a tribalist his followers too i dnt kno wat they see in this felow. Luckily im no longer associated with this anc thing. We need change of the ruling party period. DA has my vote
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I think people who still want to vote for the ANC at this time, are people who are gullible and/or who have vested interests in getting favours (tenders and top jobs) when the current leadership is voted to power again. What good has come out of the current regime since being in power? I agree with you, again I am saying people need to vote wisely in the next elections.
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Stimela
every development that goes to Nkandla is seen sin, why? why don't these journalist mention that the road from melmoth to Dundee(KZN) has recently been upgraded with millions of rands, why dont they mention the road upgrade from empangeni to Richards bay(KZN) which took millions of rands.Does Nkandla deserve to stay poor and rural just because its Jacob Zuma's hometown, i say NO. there are a lot of road upgrades and developments here in KZN and Nkandla is part of KZN. nxa ningazongidina la! demede man.........
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Dzel
How are the people of Nklandla paying for their road which will be used exclusively by them, is he going to replicate e-tolling for them as well?The logic in the ANC is user pays, why should I pay for these roads given I live in Gauteng and will probably never set foot in Nkandla?
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E'FREE
Tulas Nxesi resigns as a teacher but continues to serve as national SG for SADTU, 2007 he defend campaigns for Zuma using SADTU , polokwane zuma wins over mbeki, Tulas goes to Paliament, before we know it, Tulas becomes Minister and continues to defend zuma.If zuma becomes th Pres again, Tulas will become of Minister of Finance.
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Dieheart
@E'FREETulas Nxesi resigns as a teacher but continues to serve as national SG for SADTU, 2007 he defend campaigns for Zuma using SADTU , polokwane zuma wins over mbeki, Tulas goes to Paliament, before we know it, Tulas becomes Minister and continues to defend zuma.
If zuma becomes th Pres again, Tulas will become of Minister of Finance.
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Lets hope it does not go that far man.
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Sipho2001
AT THE END OF IT ALL THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN R1 Billion SPENT ON ZUMA KRAAL. SO HE CAN DRINK BEER WITH HIS 40 WIVES AND SLEEP UNDER THE MARULA TREE, PROGRESS AFRICAN STYLE.YOU DU.MB ANC SUPPORTERS YOU VOTED FOR THIS RETARD TO RUN OUR COUNTRY AND NOW IT'S GOING DOWN THE TOILET FAST.
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sgubhusenkwishi
If D.A.was in power ,they wouldnt even bother building roads in the rural areas, they would just build you the open toilets to shut your mouths up and pocket the millions without any media or bloggers opinions or any speculations.Report Abuse
zasi
BLAH BLAH BLAH Thank you Zuma for the road especially the one from Nkandla to Eshowe it was really bad. We the people of Nkandla are greatfull and we can`t wait for the new mall. Mshini wami Mshini wami we baba awulethu mshini wamiReport Abuse
DJ-Winner
According to the Mercury, Mchunu said the projects were considered before Zuma became president............................................................................
Thank you...
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Smaiza
@GushesheSebikibiki
100% correct. This immoral man is not ony a dictator but a tribalist also. Just have a chech at all the top dogs in the security cluster. God please have mercy on us.
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Not only this man is a tribalist his followers too i dnt kno wat they see in this felow. Luckily im no longer associated with this anc thing. We need change of the ruling party period. DA has my vote
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ANC has my vote.
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Smaiza
@RobinHSmaiza: Please leave your racist rhetoric in the toilet where it belongs.
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How can I do that? I have no clue.......how to do that. Show me how please......waiting!!!waiting!!!.
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Gusheshe
@sgubhuwhatwhatIts your opinion what u said and we respect dat. We have a DA councilor where i originally come from and its in a rural area bt there are Tar roads that are being build so what have u based your assumptions on what?
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Smaiza
@Gusheshe@sgubhuwhatwhat
Its your opinion what u said and we respect dat. We have a DA councilor where i originally come from and its in a rural area bt there are Tar roads that are being build so what have u based your assumptions on what?
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Did your DA councilor give feedback how much was budgeted for that Tar roads? if yes, how did the community verify that allocated budget was true?
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Diva7
Motherfucker!!!!! That's all I can say!!Report Abuse
Gusheshe
@SmaizaIts your choice boss to stick with your rotten anc and i bet you will only vote anc if Zuma retains his position bt shud Motlanthe win you wont vote i guess.
About the budget for the construction of the tar road, well i dnt kno bt what i can say is the construction is still work in progress and a Competent company has been given the tender to do the job cause u can see that they kno what they are doing and local people have been employed so its a good thing
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oldlady12
Dzel, good question.Report Abuse
Mzabalazo
You hypocrites you pretend as if Zuma. Elected himself in this position, yet you were all diehards, how stupid you were to think a person who escaped a corruption trial by using the state machinery was going to be clean, I wish Zuma should embezzle more money than Mobuto just to spite you ANC voters.Report Abuse
KukuyaLethosa
Why only in Nkandla when there are so many worse off rural areas all over the country? And then again, why build everything there, is Nkandla the only rural place in SA? We're sick and tired and we'll show our anger through the voting ballots.Report Abuse
Smaiza
@Gusheshe@Smaiza
Its your choice boss to stick with your rotten anc and i bet you will only vote anc if Zuma retains his position bt shud Motlanthe win you wont vote i guess.
About the budget for the construction of the tar road, well i dnt kno bt what i can say is the construction is still work in progress and a Competent company has been given the tender to do the job cause u can see that they kno what they are doing and local people have been employed so its a good thing
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I will still vote ANC.
Even where I stay, we have completed Tar roads, new water meter box...free solar geyser, better electricity..All were installed by ANC councilor.
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mambaaai
and when they do some maintenance on the roads in the countries "economic engine" they tax those people with e toll..... I mean....WTF maybe the e toll money was meant for these roads.... oh wait they are spending this in addition to the e toll mess.....wtf!Report Abuse
Skhumbasengwenya
There is nothing wrong about developing rural villages.Amabhunu developed their places, where our grandparents were not allowed to set foot.Mandela also developed his village (Qunu),you will understand if you have been there. The old English saying"Charity begins at home " is not a joke people,useza nangakini uGedleyhlekisa.Nami if I was Pres I was going to develope my villages around kwaMhlab'uyalingana,so that when you guys you visit to get strong muthi,you just cruise on highways.Is it not nice.Relax people give uMsholozi 2nd term,he's coming to your village.Report Abuse
oldlady12
Smaiza, all those things were installed by the tax and ratepayers.Report Abuse
Tasto
@Skhumbasengwenya - is lie becoming truth now? He just got R29m for security upgrade!!the house was a donation just like the car "Wbenzi" from the workers\union aligned to anc baba!!Report Abuse
DA-DBN-GUY
DJ-WinnerAccording to the Mercury, Mchunu said the projects were considered before Zuma became president.
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Thank you...
Usually you say you will wait for more information before you comment? But now you quick to believe this report without any further information???
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mambaaai
SkhumbasengwenyaThere is nothing wrong about developing rural villages.Amabhunu developed their places, where our grandparents were not allowed to set foot.Mandela also developed his village (Qunu),you will understand if you have been there. The old English saying"Charity begins at home " is not a joke people,useza nangakini uGedleyhlekisa.Nami if I was Pres I was going to develope my villages around kwaMhlab'uyalingana,so that when you guys you visit to get strong muthi,you just cruise on highways.Is it not nice.Relax people give uMsholozi 2nd term,he's coming to your village.
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Look at the mess the country is in his 1st term..... by the end of the second term we will be the same as Zimabwe, by the end of the second terms the whole countries schools will be out of text books... all the country will be burning..... all the country will be striking..........all of the people will be artists painting d!cks every where...... because there will be up to 1000 new wives in the new Homesteads...... there will be no water for all the country..... our currency has slipped so far already.... pushing inflation, the poor will be starving to death........we have already lost over half our farmers....we will have to import food with our weak currency..... import our food from the Anti Dali Lama people..... already we have lost so many jobs because of these people..... we will lose even more because in the second term things will only accellrate
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Druza25
Rural development is a very good thing and it builds the communities who benefit from this kind of developments, well done on that one. But even though I am no expert in building roads and bridges, but the amounts involved are just too much. When will the looting stop.Report Abuse
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
He now wants to construct Makhumaloville the reason he wants to lead SA for the second time.Report Abuse
DA-DBN-GUY
Druza25Rural development is a very good thing and it builds the communities who benefit from this kind of developments, well done on that one. But even though I am no expert in building roads and bridges, but the amounts involved are just too much. When will the looting stop.
At the end of the day Ncuntla will have benefitted near R1billion in upgrades.I am all for rural development but surely people cant think that this is just co-incidence?
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KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
The leadrship of this country has to be given to christians indeed in the name of Jesus they'll take us to the greener pasture because these unti-Christ failed.I'm just saying.
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Tikoloshe
...Well done Umkhulu on this very good initiative!!!! This must be seen as a very good initiative to improve the lives of the poor people in our rural areas and accepted by all.Because of all your good efforts, Comrade DiTikiloshe, DJ Winner, Stimela, Dandan,RobinH, Sinuidity, Somaartekeit and all your other fans on this blogg grant you a 3rd term Umkhulu.
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SEBIKIBIKI
@SmaizaI will still vote ANC.
Even where I stay, we have completed Tar roads, new water meter box...free solar geyser, better electricity..All were installed by ANC councilor
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Ag sham Smaiza. You talk as if its a favour from the ANC for you to get those goods and services. I am disappointed. One thing you must be made aware of is that "you are ENTITLED to get those goods and services" Its not their money. Its our money. We the taxpayers.
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mambaaai
Tikoloshe...Well done Umkhulu on this very good initiative!!!! This must be seen as a very good initiative to improve the lives of the poor people in our rural areas and accepted by all.
Because of all your good efforts, Comrade DiTikiloshe, DJ Winner, Stimela, Dandan,RobinH, Sinuidity, Somaartekeit and all your other fans on this blogg grant you a 3rd term Umkhulu.
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not convinced the greatest number of poor have been helped, not convinced this is the greatest good that could have been done with the money..... Tikoloshe maybe we need each project to be rated like hospitals or water more critical than roads... then also look how many people per rand spent has been helped....
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Smaiza
@SEBIKIBIKI@Smaiza
I will still vote ANC.
Even where I stay, we have completed Tar roads, new water meter box...free solar geyser, better electricity..All were installed by ANC councilor
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Ag sham Smaiza. You talk as if its a favour from the ANC for you to get those goods and services. I am disappointed. One thing you must be made aware of is that "you are ENTITLED to get those goods and services" Its not their money. Its our money. We the taxpayers.
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I also pay tax and services. There are people from Nkandla paying taxes and rate staying in urban arear's. Stop talking as if your only one paying taxes and services.
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!!!Sinudeity!!!
Smaiza - "I also pay tax and services. There are people from Nkandla paying taxes and rate staying in urban arear's. Stop talking as if your only one paying taxes and services."Not enough taxes to be able to afford all these expenses. Your money comes from other provinces. 75% of WCape's tax income goes to other provinces.
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oldlady12
Mambaai, at first I thought your persons helped per rand is a good idea, but in restrospect that would only lead to more overcrowding in the cities and the people in rural areas never getting anything. A 23km road is a 23km road, whether in a city or in a rural area, and if its needed, its needed. No, we should get proper insight into all the monies spent by government, and the rand per km amount for roads should be the same everywhere on all projects. The ancient old formula for calculating what should be spent still works perfectly fine, and these two roads were grossly overspent.Report Abuse
Smaiza
@!!!Sinudeity!!!Smaiza - "I also pay tax and services. There are people from Nkandla paying taxes and rate staying in urban arear's. Stop talking as if your only one paying taxes and services."
Not enough taxes to be able to afford all these expenses. Your money comes from other provinces. 75% of WCape's tax income goes to other provinces.
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FYI....I stay in Centurion. Gauteng is the biggest when comes to share equities not your W.Cape. DA supporters just obsessed of ruling the country.
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!!!Sinudeity!!!
Smaiza - But thats the point. Its not the peeps from KZN paying for these upgrades, its the peeps from Gauteng and WCape.Report Abuse
Winilen
@shrink7Leave my president(Mbeki) out of this mess, only thing we disagreed on with my president was issues around HIV, ke pheto ke tuu. So please solve your issues with your president(zooma) without dragging us in, and i know my president will intelligently respond in due course. tardy zooma mxm.
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I guess your president will come back & says Zuma forced him to spend all that money because Zuma is the only currupt person
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Winilen
@SmaizaMore than R 300 Billion rand was allocated to infrastructure of this country for this current financial year but media focus mainly to Nkandla area. Lets say R 300 Billion minus +/-R 800 million (for Nkandla and surrounding areas) = +/- R 298 Billion left. Can the media tell us where other developments are taking place?
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Good Question, where is the balance of the MONEY goes too... just because the media does not report the devolopment of other areas does not mean they are not devolped...
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oldlady12
To all who see nothing wrong with the exhorbitant amounts spent on these roads, I'm glad to have read your comments. It is nice to know we have so many rich people in our country. Soon poverty will be a thing of the past.Report Abuse
guiliano
comtsotsiHonestly good people there is nothing wrong with the building of these two road networks,.Nkandla is a very rural area and it is inspiring to hear about such great developments.
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Really!!!!!! so is Mqanduli in the Eastern Cape.
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Tjaytm
Whta happened to the infrastructure that JZ promised us in his speech ealier this year,he multi billion road developments in mpumalanga,limpopo,NW and NC nothing is happening all we see is the development that is happening around Nkandla.Zuma is miss usinging our tax money and the sooner he retire as the country's president the better we need someone with one head that can think better not someone with two heads but cant think at all.
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Smaiza
@!!!Sinudeity!!!Smaiza - But thats the point. Its not the peeps from KZN paying for these upgrades, its the peeps from Gauteng and WCape.
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KZN is the second when comes to equity shares the W.Cape. KZN (including Nkandla) deserve to be developed.
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Senganga247
NwanawamukalahaZuma is no different to the late Sicelo Siceka - morons who loot the state's coffers thinking that the public is not watching........
i mean half a billion rand for a small area, what the hell. This Mchunu is dragging Mbeki's name to glorify Zuma.
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That's all we can do. Watch them looting. But what's more interesting is that ANC members still believe He is the right man to lead ANC. I am honestly starting to think of my options on who to vote for.
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somaartakeit
it gets worse by the minute, exorbitant expenditure of tax payers money, its going to be interesting to see how much support the anc still has,Report Abuse
Sharks
Finally service delivery(•͡.̮ •͡ )Report Abuse
Tsar-Rasputin
If all areas within the country were serviced like Inkadla, the government would score 10 on performanceI hear that it has hospital, police, NIA people. Very soon all government departments will have satellite offices there
Eish!!!! what about us?
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Wordoftruth
That's well and good, in fact a very commendable thing to have Rural Development. However Rural Development is NOT only about building infrastructure which should be at value for money, but actually supporting economic industries which such infrastructure will develop. We don't want no erstwhile Bophuthatswana, Venda, Ciskei, Transkei type of infrastructure development which eventually cannot self sustain itself.Secondly Nkandla and/or KZN MUST not be the only rural area that obtain rural development support. What happened to the village in Limpopo which was the flagship of rural development? Last that was heard of it from the MInister of Monitoring was that there is still no water even though money was spent for some water supply.
Funny enough when service delivery is for Nkandla government fast-tracks everything whereas in other rural development by government is at slow pace.
To government: We see you!
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Tikoloshe
oldlady12....oldlady you can't work by R/km; you know that in that area there are a lot of mountains and the soil is very hard. What about the bridges required?
You can't build a road in the Hymalaya's at the same price as in Freestata!!
It's better we build the road then deposit the monies in Ranatang Trust account!!!
Wordoftruth
"What happened to the village in Limpopo which was the flagship of rural development? Last that was heard of it from the MInister of Monitoring was that there is still no water even though money was spent for some water supply......"
....the monies are sitting in Ranatang Trust account, the rest running around Limps in the form of white Range Rovers!!!!
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spatch
Nkandla Part 1 POPULATION ................ 17,424
Nkandla Part 2 POPULATION................. 2,783
Nkandla Part 3 POPULATION...................... 12
Half population are children, 25 % pensioners, most are probably unemployed
so the R528 million was spent for about 5000 people, maybe.
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this male b***h is lying they were considering to upgrade it with what money.
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Mhambuma1
People must also take note that Nkandla's roads, being a hilly rural village, is gonna cost more than building say, a Soweto road network wich is on a flat surface. So @Blackstone, go back to school where you studied accounting and demand your school fee back.Report Abuse
Mhambuma1
Once Nkandla has been developed, it will serve communities from 3 other nearest smal towns of Kranskop, Showe, Maphumulo..and even more.Report Abuse
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