A man who raped a 15-year-old girl did not deserve a life sentence because she probably allowed the sex in anticipation of "gifts", the Supreme Court of Appeal has ruled.
what does the magistrate mean by saying he accept gifts in return???? that is a statutory rape, at 15 you not clever enough to think for yourself, that man robbed that girl of his viginity to fulfill his last, death sentence was good for this man, I still say there's no justice in this fucken country. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
MommaC
two WOMEN on the bench and they say 'had not sustained any "lasting or noticeable psychological or physical scars". JUSSSUS! Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
duwetse
this is crazy! we possibly have the judges themselves having had intercourse with underage kind if they feel the girl deserved to be raped cos she was anticipating gifts! Sorry excuses of people who sit on the bench and vow to make the country safe. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
snazz
Moer do this judges have Kids i wonder. She is 15 years i thought it is statutory rape................ Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
RobinH
MommaC: There we hit one of the roots of the problem. So many women in this country (perhaps world-wide) actually fully accept and even encourage the chauvinism so rampant in our society. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
mose
well even the 8 years he has spent in jail already is too much. kids of today start having sex earlier than that and believe me not with their peers, who's fault is that? as long as the sex is consentual the age is not relevant.
@ Tobby we have 30 year olds who are not clever enough to think for themselves as well should ppl be arrested for boning them as well?
I am not condoning having sex with young girls but taking someone to jail for it is aking it too far. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
RobinH
mose: Your position is completely contradictory. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Mosquer
Ga se rape o be a rekiša! She did not cry, no physical/psychological scars, that means she even enjoyed it since it is done on numerous occasions.
Who know maybe she is the one who initiated it!
Our justice system is not fair and it paints men as devils. This girl should also be punished for seducing and engaging in adults material Report Abuse
someone plsease educate me how many years is life imprisonment . Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
MommaC
RobinH
I cannot even begin to express my disgust at their blatant treason towards the badge of boobs Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
MommaC
mose
I hope you NEVER have children. The idea that you would be so very happy about having your baby raped is just too much to contemplate Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Kon-Tiki
Really?? Just there mere fact that the girl was underage the state should have driven the point home. It is called statutory rape. Ok, I get the point that it does not mean that the man was wrongly convicted but rather was given a harsher sentence. As soon as he get parolled they are going to get married. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
RobinH
mose: Your statement ends with this: "not condoning having sex with young girls but taking someone to jail for it is aking it too far." Contradictory, dear Sir.
Mosquer: As usual you are just way out there. What kind of position is that. The man took advantage of a 15 year-old. Surely your religion with which you hammer us day in and day out would have a lot to say about such behaviour? Sis man.
Some girls are jail-baits and you should just smell it from afar Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
mose
MommaC
She was not raped, she willingly had sex in exchange for gifts. The only reason they call it rape is because she was under 16. Forgive for thinking that is not the greatest crime on the planet. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Printa
No girl comments.. LoL!
I like when fathers are responsible.... LoL Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
MophemeKoPitori
Clearly you guys don't know how this "kids" are! They can promise you good times if you can buy her a pair of carvella or send her to the next grade (pass her) if u are a teacher.
Ba sele bana ba, I offloaded them ko police station when they didn't wanna get off my car because they also did the same but my religion was against it.
RobinH
Your worships, this is bull. Surely you know what statutory rape means!
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Who has been sentenced to life in prison for statutory rape? Report Abuse
Robin
If saying a harsh punishment is not justifiable for a behavour that i do not condone is considered "contradictory" then so be it.
MophemeKoPitori
Atleast you understand the reality of the world we live in. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
RobinH
mose. Sorry, I can't forgive that kind of thinking. Why do you think one has laws such as those defining statutory rape. Young girls are easily seduced by bling and perceived power, and with respect, an adult man should be able to control himself. A man that allows himself to be seduced by anyone is responsible for his behaviour. It is really quite simple. If some psycho likes young girls, let's not hide behind the "she seduced him" garbage, please. He is responsible and should face the music. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Msiphos00
Not all rape cases are genuine look now what a waste of time
There is also a concern that prisons are full and this guy has been there for nothing just to add the numbers in prison Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
themadam
while rape is a crime that should not be justified at all, i am looking at this verdict differently. we are a nation with a lot of school girls who will do anything for money, material things to such an extent that sleeping with an older man to them is fine as long as they get money, gifts and a good life in return. is this not a case whereby these minors are being taught that you cannot( just because the guy did not give gifts and all in that one session) lay a "rape charge". it is a fact that some girls get into these relationships with older men knowing its wrong.
i know of a girl (where i used to stay) who had an affair with a married guy from the same street and was just very happy to be getting money and whenever we tried talking to her (she was about 16), all we would get was that its not our business what she does. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
this is fucken nonsense, this judge must have got his law degree from turf, what happened to maturity, the girl was not mature enough to know the difference between rape and consensual sex, what is this, she was tricked into believing that receiving gifts on exchange for sex is ok, as she might have been lured into the trap by the culprit. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
mose
RobinH
Your worships, this is bull. Surely you know what statutory rape means!
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Who has been sentenced to life in prison for statutory rape?
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That is also what i would like to know Robin. Can't wai for your answer to this one Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
MommaC
mose
No problem honey, when your 6 year old agrees to having sex for sweeties, I'm sure you will have the exact same outlook :) Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
MmaSeshego
@Mose
When it comes to situations like these, there's bee a few of us that ask "would you still say the same if it happened to your daughter, niece, cousin, or anybody close to you?" Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
tmot10
So if it is a crime to have a sex with a girl under 18 then why did the government promote condoms even to 12 year olds? Are they not under age?
Anyway that's beside the point. If he could give the girl gifts to shut mouths then he would also give the judge a gift (money) to reduce the sentence finish and klaar. Money talks all foreign languages.
Right there is where we disgrace ourselves as sisters. It IS our business. The children of our communities are the responsibility of ALL of us. Their brains have not physically developed sufficiently to make these decisions. That is why we have adults. What you are saying is that a child must be allowed to do as they want to for what they want. That is why we have the problems we have. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
mose
Robin I agree but i still maintain that the sentence was too harsh. A suspended sentence or a fine to teach him a lesson and show him that what he did was not acceptable would have been enough. Its not like this girls are virgins. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
RobinH
mose: A rid iculous and unfa ir question, not to men tion irr elevant. How many nor mal people walk around with such sta ts at their finger tips? The man had s e x with a minor. Fini shed and klaar. One cannot rati onalise perv ersion. Now a question for you: Let's say you have a dau ghter of 15 and her uncle (your brother) gives her a black berry, but demands s e x before handing it over. Hey, a BB is a nice toy, so I reckon it would be appea ling, so let's just say she agrees and offe rs herself to her uncle. whoops, three weeks later she finds she is preg nant. What would you do? Congratulate your brother on his ma nly s perm? Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Nongoloza24
Mosquer
Ga se rape o be a rekiša! She did not cry, no physical/psychological scars, that means she even enjoyed it since it is done on numerous occasions.
Who know maybe she is the one who initiated it!
Our justice system is not fair and it paints men as devils. This girl should also be punished for seducing and engaging in adults material
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And this is a comment from a guy who always preaches that we need Jesus Christ? Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
mose
MommaC
MmaSeshego
@Mose
When it comes to situations like these, there's bee a few of us that ask "would you still say the same if it happened to your daughter, niece, cousin, or anybody close to you?"
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The difference is when something affects you directly and you are emotionaly involved your objectivity is compromised. therefore i might feel differently if it were my daughter but my feelings wud be infuenced by my emotions and that would not make me or you right.
mose: you are ducking the issue Sir. Your position is unacceptable. Schluss. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
themadam
MommaC
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I agree it is our business, hence I said when we tried to talk to her all what we got was that its not our business. That was her response. I am raising this because a lot of these teenagers when we as adults tell them the sugardaddy thing is wrong, you are just left with an egg on your face. They always have answers. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
mose
Robin
I have already mentioned that i do not condon the behavour so obviously I would not be happy with my brother at all but I would not recommend that he be sent to jail for life. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Nongoloza24
tmot10
So if it is a crime to have a sex with a girl under 18 then why did the government promote condoms even to 12 year olds? Are they not under age?
Anyway that's beside the point. If he could give the girl gifts to shut mouths then he would also give the judge a gift (money) to reduce the sentence finish and klaar. Money talks all foreign languages.
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You crazy dude this a guy from rural limpopo what can he possibly offer a Judge who earns thousands of rands monthly? Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
RobinH
mose. Ag hell, I give up. I prefer to deal in the rational. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Blackstone.lebs
she probably allowed the sex in anticipation of "gifts"..
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These judges have set a bad precedent. Justice has failed another child. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
mose
robin
now that's an insult and only because my opinion differs from yours. i give up too Report Abuse
???? so when children are raped, you don't care because you are not affected 'directly' ???? Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
mose
I do care but the punishment must fit the crime and in this case i dont think it does. I did say i do not condone what he did but i am a bad person because i feel the sentence was too harsh!!!
...... so rape isn't a serious crime and shouldn't be punished harshly Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
RobinH
mose: Then let's agree to differ, shall we, as I will NEVER support your stance. You are welcome to your opinion. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
Furthermore, when he raped her, she did not cry or resist, and had not sustained any "lasting or noticeable psychological or physical scars".
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My comment is about ra.pe in general (not this story in particular)
I am appalled (sp) that the learned ones are passing judgment based on one's reaction.......... people react differently to different situations. Most ra.pe victims will tell you that they froze (could neither move nor scream..)
How sure are they about the psychocological or physical scars........ if that is the case I dont think medicine would have "Post Traumatic Disorder/Stress" in their books................. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Mellow
Ooohh gosh am gonna throw up I feel sick really your higness you full of crap what does a 15yr old know bout making sound decisions? So you basically blaming the child for being raped geezzz but SA justice you busy screwing us hey damn this country from life sentence to 15yrs Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
RobinH
MsKinky: Exactly. I am horrified that TWO WOMEN were on the bench and permitted this travesty. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
mose
MommaC
each case is unique and in this case my answer is no. NOT SERIOUS
RobinH
Thanks Rob
just out of curiosity, if it is known that they had sex before and gave her gifts, why is he only charged for one rape instead of the previous one as well.? only when he refused to pay up did it become a crime or was the girl older before? so she did not resist, she did not cry and the only thing that constitutes this to be rape is her age.
This are all facts that lead to me saying the sentence was too harsh Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
MGEEZ
@Sowetan
Furthermore, when he raped her, she did not cry or resist, and had not sustained any "lasting or noticeable psychological or physical scars".
Under these circumstances, a sentence of life imprisonment was disproportionate, the judges decided.
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These judges must have been high on some very strong substance I tell you; otherwise how do you explain their foolish verdict!!! Furthermore people who are on pot should not be on duty maan, Nxa Report Abuse
@Blackstone.lebs
she probably allowed the sex in anticipation of "gifts"..
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These judges have set a bad precedent. Justice has failed another child.
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Couldnt have said it better...............
This story is misleading as there is a lot which is not revealed. Why did the judges reduce the sentence, did the rapist appeal and if so what was the argument presented? To rule on basis that she probably expected gifts in exchange for s@x, I just dont think that was the only reason. Our judges know very well that we have a high rape rate and therefore would not take this lightly. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
RobinH
themadam: It was the Appeal Court, so I would assume so. Appeal or not, it remains statutory rape.
mose: One rape, two rapes. I don't think courts really care to distinguish. Irrelevant, Sir. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
TheWill1
I dont say this lady wanted to, It happened so many times where these ladies ask for money in the morning and threaten to go to the police because they are suddenly claiming to be under age. so this guy might have had a disagreemnt with this lady and all of a sudden he finds himself in jail. there's always two sides of the story and unfortunately the one who knows how to manipulate the law wins. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
RobinH
TheWill: That doesn't even warrant a response. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
mose
Robin
so the number of counts is irrelevant to you? I guess killing one person and killing 2 also makes no difference to you. how rational of you 'Sir' Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
MommaC
TheWill1
moral of the story : you must STOP BOINKING CHILDREN Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
RobinH
Of course not, mose. You really need to learn the basics of common logic. But murder is murder, just as rape is rape. Multiple counts should only harden the sentence. Nevertheless an acceptable minimum should be imposed for one count. So in determining GUILT, the number of counts is irrelevant. Obviously. Now, as I said, in an attempt to remain polite, can we agree to differ? Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
themadam
RobinH
themadam: It was the Appeal Court, so I would assume so. Appeal or not, it remains statutory rape.
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And I still maintain that the story is not a complete one, there's a lot missing or not reported. What comes to my mind is the Benedict Vilakazi statutory rape case of which it was also a 15year old girl. Do you know that case, do you still remember it? And I agree this is statutory rape. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
TheWill1
Can someone who is a lawyer or works in circles of law define "statutory rape". Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
RobinH
themadam: I do, but it doesn't really affect my view on this.
@TheWill1
Can someone who is a lawyer or works in circles of law define "statutory rape
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Consenting age for s.ex in South Africa is 16.
Having se.x with a girl under the age of 16 is statutory r.ape,...... she might have agreed/consented to the act but in the eyes of the law she is not of legal age nor does she have the mental capacity to agree/engage in such acts. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
RobinH
MsKinky: Thanks. Well put. Except it also inculdes s e x with a boy under 16. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@RobinH
Have they amended they act, remember at some point with boys it was referred to as indecent assault and the HR groups were arguing about the "penetration issue"....... Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
themadam
RobinH
themadam: I do, but it doesn't really affect my view on this.
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In your view what is the correct sentence for statutory rape? Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
malemaforpresident
The girl had had sex with him on a previous occasion after which he gave her underwear, sandals and money as gifts, the judges wrote
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Furthermore, when he raped her, she did not cry or resist
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Even though the rape of a child was a very serious crime
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There are serious contradictions in the above statements it should have been rape in the first encounter the girl is just a chameleon the Man truly did not rape this girl he should just be released once the poor girl was just selling her body for material things wa gafa
this was but a bit slack
eight years before concluding sentencing gives his defense food in platter
is that why the light sentence?
dont run away from arguments face them Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Moffdat
Always good to see a decision against popular culture. At least the independence of the judiciary is still quite prevalent in our society even though everything else seems to be withering away. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
G-ruff
Surely the responsible parents would ve asked the girl where she got all those things....This rapist used money*not sure how he got it* tyo lure the little girl into sleeping with her. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
TheWill1
I agree with malemaforpresident, You are only called a thief when someone declared you a thief i.e when someone saw you steal and confirm if that did not happen you can steal a million times but you will not be called a thief because no one knows. This lady had sex before with this guy and this time there was a misunderstanding about reimbursement and hence this guy is now called a rapist.
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
This definition you giving me. does it include the degree of IQ or is it only age that is considered because there are 35 year olds that have IQ's of 13 and vice versa now when you talk mental capacity you are broadning the topic. All I am saying is the law is being used for monetary benefits here. KNOWLEGE IS POWER!! poor guy "rapist" Report Abuse
themadam. My view is not the law. I have very strong feelings about the issue of sexual abuse, so not fair to ask. I would impose very heavy sentences. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Parkerjive
The guy had had sex with the girl many times before and the day she says she was raped she did'nt even cry or refused coz she was used to having sex with that man,so stop blaming the poor guy, give him a brake Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
RobinH
TheWill. IQ HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. "The law is being used for monetary benefits" WHAT??? How. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
mose
If judges lacked the ability to separate emotions and logic like the bloggers here, sentences would depend on the judges mood and how strongly she feels about the subject. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Msiphos00
My point exactly it is wrong for the guy to have consented when the young girl made moves on him and again her parents should also be blamed I mean if your 15yr old dresses up nicely and you don't want to know where she got the clothes from, you promoting her acts. Also what made this girl to keep quiet all this time.
The judges should have put it like this "We sentence you for having s/x with a minor - statutory rape and its 15yrs" finish and klaar Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
TheWill1
RobinH
The core question is Why is it suddenly called rape if it happened before. The first time it was not called rape and propbably the 2nd,3rd...etc time and now suddenly it is called "rape" surely intelligence must prevail guys. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
This definition you giving me. does it include the degree of IQ or is it only age that is considered because there are 35 year olds that have IQ's of 13 and vice versa now when you talk mental capacity you are broadning the topic. All I am saying is the law is being used for monetary benefits here. KNOWLEGE IS POWER!! poor guy "rapist"
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My answer was based on your question "what is statutory rape"........... mental capacity not necessarily level of maturity/reasoning capacity (mental retardation). Here the Children's Act is used.
When it comes to r.ape involving adule mentally challenged people, that is where the Mental Health Act will give guidance with regards to litigating and or sentencing. Report Abuse
The Will: I don't have enough info to respond to that. I suspect it was not reported before, but I don't know.
MsKinky, thanks again for the explanation. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Mosquer
@Nongoloza24
Stress sa ex ya gago o kare se hlakantša hlogo. Patela maintaince or pasop.
How old was she when she became pregnant? Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Papage
Stupid, how do you justify that Judge? she is only 15 years old. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
TheWill1
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
My point is you can use and manipulte the law if you know how to go about it.That is how lawyers make money. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Yotywa
This is confusing, Statutory rape doesnt mean the ipxedit of the minor is overruled...Then a reasonable mans test is applied. Anticipating gifts is no reason enough to mual a kids pride.
But I cant complain because Tso Vilakazi got away with it too....
I guess the question is "what is a staturoty rape?". Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
RobinH
Yotywa: "ipxedit"????
Re the question, may I refer you to MsKinky's excellent explanation above. Just scroll up. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
MommaC
Geez. No wonder we have the rape statistics that we do. The idea of boinking children is fully accepted and if a woman was stupid enough to sleep with one of these men then she NEVER has the right to say 'no' ever again. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
TheWill1
MommaC
You are missing the point here the law is laid correctly for interpretation but were are talking abuse of the law here.if you bonk with a concesus reimbursemnt is not rape but if something goes wrong with reimbursement then it is rape, where is the line....? Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
mphephethwane
...ake nami ngilahlele esivivaneni. in as much as bana bagompieno bale tjatjarag, an adult has de responsibility of acting in a way dat discourages such a behaviour. i recently had a 15yr old offering me her mpundu in exchange 4 a blackberry, & i refused point-blank; i asked her what her mom will say when she suddenly rocks up with an expensive phone...i do not seek 2 be self-righteous by saying this, i am just simply highlighting the fact that an adult has the responsibily to stop such a thing from progressing any further. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
RobinH
TheWIll: Surely you are joking. People have laid this out for you time and again. Try and pay attention.
mphephethwane: Thanks for that. One of the points I have been trying to make all day. It is up to the adult (supposedly the responsible one in the equation) to halt matters.
Eish mara kids of today things they do, hai khona..... Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
TheWill1
You bloggers do not want to get my point I will rest my case now Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
thathakonke
I'm not suprised soon there won't be any statutory rape in South Africa. The gorvenment said it's okay for 12 year old to be engaged in sexual intercourse so I guess they will legalise it that a 12 year old can give her/his consent to be involved in sexual intercourse. Viva Banana Zuma republic Viva Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
The girl(15) had had sex with him on a previous occasion after which he gave her underwear, sandals and money as gifts, the judges wrote.
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E ne e se e se ngwana o ne a se a butswitse mos.
The Will: We'd love to. But please try and make a point, rather than the interminable questioning. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
themadam
RobinH
themadam.
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We need to be careful when dealing with cases like these. In this case we dont have all the facts. Like the Vilakazi case, this girl could have lied about her age and other things but unfortunately unlike Vilakazi the poor guy maybe just could not afford a good lawyer hence he found himself in jail. It could be that the judges realized the mistake which was made and are just being technical with this guy to avoid a claim by this guy against the state. There is something fishy here in this story, it just does not add up and its just unfortunate that sowetan has decided to publish half the story. As a nation, we are all gatvol about the rape stats and feel harsher sentences should be imposed. Judges would not just lessen a sentence unjustifiable. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
MommaC
TheWill1
..... no that is theft. If you go to a prostiitute and you don't pay her afterwards then you have stolen from her. If you seduce a child who is physically incapable of making the decision to have sex then it is statutory rape. If you give anyone a present and then demand sex for the rest of eternity, that is called blackmail / coersion. If you have sex with someone who is willing and the next time you want sex, they say 'no' but you force yourself onto them, that is called rape Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
MommaC
themadam
That is a constant problem with Sowetan. Half stories. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
RobinH
MommaC and themadam: On this I must agree. The quality of research and reporting here is terrible. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@TheWill1
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
My point is you can use and manipulte the law if you know how to go about it.That is how lawyers make money.
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sad reality is that it the manipulation is done at the expense of kid(s)
RobinH
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Its as if they are saying "fill in the blanks yourself we've done our half job"!!! Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
sabza007
Two weeks ago, the same judges deserved a Bell for overturning and extending Sherryl Cwele's sentence....few days after, they take a bizzare decision? Come on now. Report Abuse
themadam: Yip. And like the good little stooges we so often are, we do just that.... never mind the actual facts. But what choice does one have. One needs to be able to rely on the media in order to be informed. I read a few papers, but only use this one for online comment. The discrepancies between papers can be very amusing. On one occasion, simply by omitting the word "not" The Sowetan reported the exact opposite of what had happened and only corrected it after several letters to their editor. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Makhosini0408
Good afternoon
This is bull, period. It is a fallacy that the women and men on our benches are beyond reproach or shall we say they were under the influence and highly intoxicated with legalising of illegality. For starters, the girl was 15 and surely the man overpowered her in terms of her young mind.
Making this absurb judgement in a country where r@pe is a scourge is tantamount to giving a licence to those scumbags as long as lawyers will argue the technicalities off such attrocities and those idiots at the Supreme Court, will rubber stamp such nonsense. I still say, the playing fields are not level.
How can in the first place reduce statutory r@pe into a business transaction, baffles me. I am loss for words. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
May be her body is unequal to her age the reason mr judge put his judgement that way,today kids are their mothers size you could sometimes think that her mother is her sister.
I'm just saying. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
RobinH
Kata: Some things should rather not be said, Sir. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
TupacAmaru
My guts tell me that life imprisonment is inappropriate in this case. Thumbs up to the jurors for overturning that sentence. Report Abuse
a) $ex with underage(15) girl is statutory rape
b) 12 year old girl can have abortion without parent's consent
Now can somebody please explain this to me: Does (b) above mean that the 12 year old has been raped? and if so, shouldn't a case of statutoty rape be opened the minute the brat asks for abortion? Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
malemaforpresident
Papage
Stupid, how do you justify that Judge? she is only 15 years old.
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she is only 15 years old.Yeah but with extensive experience in opening her legs with such a big cock why didn’t she scream in the first place screaming is a sign of pain if not probably she was enjoying it
Spoken like a Juju accomplice!!!
Anyway this man should never have gone to jail in the first place. Now eight years of his life have been wasted. This little Brat is about 23 now. She should go to jail for ruining this man's life! Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
MSG_S
Moffdat
malemaforpresident
Spoken like a Juju accomplice!!!
Anyway this man should never have gone to jail in the first place. Now eight years of his life have been wasted. This little Brat is about 23 now. She should go to jail for ruining this man's life!
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You may be right or may be wrong. That is why the judges had given that slight hint of BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. These children of today reach the maturity stage arround the age of 15/16 years. Example: you ask her the age, she tells you she is 18years old and persist on that. You propose, eventually you sleep with her. Then what?. You'll end up behind the bars should you get caught. It is your word against hers backed by the state. Afterall you did not ask for her ID. Why would you. Report Abuse
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Tobby
what does the magistrate mean by saying he accept gifts in return???? that is a statutory rape, at 15 you not clever enough to think for yourself, that man robbed that girl of his viginity to fulfill his last, death sentence was good for this man, I still say there's no justice in this fucken country.Report Abuse
MommaC
two WOMEN on the bench and they say 'had not sustained any "lasting or noticeable psychological or physical scars". JUSSSUS!Report Abuse
duwetse
this is crazy! we possibly have the judges themselves having had intercourse with underage kind if they feel the girl deserved to be raped cos she was anticipating gifts! Sorry excuses of people who sit on the bench and vow to make the country safe.Report Abuse
snazz
Moer do this judges have Kids i wonder. She is 15 years i thought it is statutory rape................Report Abuse
RobinH
MommaC: There we hit one of the roots of the problem. So many women in this country (perhaps world-wide) actually fully accept and even encourage the chauvinism so rampant in our society.Report Abuse
mose
well even the 8 years he has spent in jail already is too much. kids of today start having sex earlier than that and believe me not with their peers, who's fault is that? as long as the sex is consentual the age is not relevant.@ Tobby we have 30 year olds who are not clever enough to think for themselves as well should ppl be arrested for boning them as well?
I am not condoning having sex with young girls but taking someone to jail for it is aking it too far.
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RobinH
mose: Your position is completely contradictory.Report Abuse
Mosquer
Ga se rape o be a rekiša! She did not cry, no physical/psychological scars, that means she even enjoyed it since it is done on numerous occasions.Who know maybe she is the one who initiated it!
Our justice system is not fair and it paints men as devils. This girl should also be punished for seducing and engaging in adults material
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mose
How so Robin? Pls elaborate.Report Abuse
member
someone plsease educate me how many years is life imprisonment .Report Abuse
MommaC
RobinHI cannot even begin to express my disgust at their blatant treason towards the badge of boobs
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MommaC
moseI hope you NEVER have children. The idea that you would be so very happy about having your baby raped is just too much to contemplate
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Kon-Tiki
Really?? Just there mere fact that the girl was underage the state should have driven the point home. It is called statutory rape. Ok, I get the point that it does not mean that the man was wrongly convicted but rather was given a harsher sentence. As soon as he get parolled they are going to get married.Report Abuse
RobinH
mose: Your statement ends with this: "not condoning having sex with young girls but taking someone to jail for it is aking it too far." Contradictory, dear Sir.Mosquer: As usual you are just way out there. What kind of position is that. The man took advantage of a 15 year-old. Surely your religion with which you hammer us day in and day out would have a lot to say about such behaviour? Sis man.
MommaC: I totally agree.
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Lehido
Some girls are jail-baits and you should just smell it from afarReport Abuse
mose
MommaCShe was not raped, she willingly had sex in exchange for gifts. The only reason they call it rape is because she was under 16. Forgive for thinking that is not the greatest crime on the planet.
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Printa
No girl comments.. LoL!I like when fathers are responsible.... LoL
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MophemeKoPitori
Clearly you guys don't know how this "kids" are! They can promise you good times if you can buy her a pair of carvella or send her to the next grade (pass her) if u are a teacher.Ba sele bana ba, I offloaded them ko police station when they didn't wanna get off my car because they also did the same but my religion was against it.
I prefer MommaC for $ex
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Nongoloza24
RobinHYour worships, this is bull. Surely you know what statutory rape means!
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Who has been sentenced to life in prison for statutory rape?
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Pitso.MCCMA.SAFA
mara whyReport Abuse
MommaC
Why have the comments disappeared?Report Abuse
Chichi7
You are joking!!Report Abuse
mose
RobinIf saying a harsh punishment is not justifiable for a behavour that i do not condone is considered "contradictory" then so be it.
MophemeKoPitori
Atleast you understand the reality of the world we live in.
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RobinH
mose. Sorry, I can't forgive that kind of thinking. Why do you think one has laws such as those defining statutory rape. Young girls are easily seduced by bling and perceived power, and with respect, an adult man should be able to control himself. A man that allows himself to be seduced by anyone is responsible for his behaviour. It is really quite simple. If some psycho likes young girls, let's not hide behind the "she seduced him" garbage, please. He is responsible and should face the music.Report Abuse
Msiphos00
Not all rape cases are genuine look now what a waste of timeThere is also a concern that prisons are full and this guy has been there for nothing just to add the numbers in prison
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themadam
while rape is a crime that should not be justified at all, i am looking at this verdict differently. we are a nation with a lot of school girls who will do anything for money, material things to such an extent that sleeping with an older man to them is fine as long as they get money, gifts and a good life in return. is this not a case whereby these minors are being taught that you cannot( just because the guy did not give gifts and all in that one session) lay a "rape charge". it is a fact that some girls get into these relationships with older men knowing its wrong.i know of a girl (where i used to stay) who had an affair with a married guy from the same street and was just very happy to be getting money and whenever we tried talking to her (she was about 16), all we would get was that its not our business what she does.
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THEmadame2B-BBEE
this is fucken nonsense, this judge must have got his law degree from turf, what happened to maturity, the girl was not mature enough to know the difference between rape and consensual sex, what is this, she was tricked into believing that receiving gifts on exchange for sex is ok, as she might have been lured into the trap by the culprit.Report Abuse
mose
RobinHYour worships, this is bull. Surely you know what statutory rape means!
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Who has been sentenced to life in prison for statutory rape?
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That is also what i would like to know Robin. Can't wai for your answer to this one
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MommaC
moseNo problem honey, when your 6 year old agrees to having sex for sweeties, I'm sure you will have the exact same outlook :)
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MmaSeshego
@MoseWhen it comes to situations like these, there's bee a few of us that ask "would you still say the same if it happened to your daughter, niece, cousin, or anybody close to you?"
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tmot10
So if it is a crime to have a sex with a girl under 18 then why did the government promote condoms even to 12 year olds? Are they not under age?Anyway that's beside the point. If he could give the girl gifts to shut mouths then he would also give the judge a gift (money) to reduce the sentence finish and klaar. Money talks all foreign languages.
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MommaC
themadamRight there is where we disgrace ourselves as sisters. It IS our business. The children of our communities are the responsibility of ALL of us. Their brains have not physically developed sufficiently to make these decisions. That is why we have adults. What you are saying is that a child must be allowed to do as they want to for what they want. That is why we have the problems we have.
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mose
Robin I agree but i still maintain that the sentence was too harsh. A suspended sentence or a fine to teach him a lesson and show him that what he did was not acceptable would have been enough. Its not like this girls are virgins.Report Abuse
RobinH
mose: A rid iculous and unfa ir question, not to men tion irr elevant. How many nor mal people walk around with such sta ts at their finger tips? The man had s e x with a minor. Fini shed and klaar. One cannot rati onalise perv ersion. Now a question for you: Let's say you have a dau ghter of 15 and her uncle (your brother) gives her a black berry, but demands s e x before handing it over. Hey, a BB is a nice toy, so I reckon it would be appea ling, so let's just say she agrees and offe rs herself to her uncle. whoops, three weeks later she finds she is preg nant. What would you do? Congratulate your brother on his ma nly s perm?Report Abuse
Nongoloza24
MosquerGa se rape o be a rekiša! She did not cry, no physical/psychological scars, that means she even enjoyed it since it is done on numerous occasions.
Who know maybe she is the one who initiated it!
Our justice system is not fair and it paints men as devils. This girl should also be punished for seducing and engaging in adults material
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And this is a comment from a guy who always preaches that we need Jesus Christ?
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MommaCMmaSeshego
@Mose
When it comes to situations like these, there's bee a few of us that ask "would you still say the same if it happened to your daughter, niece, cousin, or anybody close to you?"
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The difference is when something affects you directly and you are emotionaly involved your objectivity is compromised. therefore i might feel differently if it were my daughter but my feelings wud be infuenced by my emotions and that would not make me or you right.
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RobinH
mose: you are ducking the issue Sir. Your position is unacceptable. Schluss.Report Abuse
themadam
MommaC----
I agree it is our business, hence I said when we tried to talk to her all what we got was that its not our business. That was her response. I am raising this because a lot of these teenagers when we as adults tell them the sugardaddy thing is wrong, you are just left with an egg on your face. They always have answers.
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mose
RobinI have already mentioned that i do not condon the behavour so obviously I would not be happy with my brother at all but I would not recommend that he be sent to jail for life.
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Nongoloza24
tmot10So if it is a crime to have a sex with a girl under 18 then why did the government promote condoms even to 12 year olds? Are they not under age?
Anyway that's beside the point. If he could give the girl gifts to shut mouths then he would also give the judge a gift (money) to reduce the sentence finish and klaar. Money talks all foreign languages.
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You crazy dude this a guy from rural limpopo what can he possibly offer a Judge who earns thousands of rands monthly?
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RobinH
mose. Ag hell, I give up. I prefer to deal in the rational.Report Abuse
Blackstone.lebs
she probably allowed the sex in anticipation of "gifts"..++++++++++++
These judges have set a bad precedent. Justice has failed another child.
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mose
robinnow that's an insult and only because my opinion differs from yours. i give up too
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RobinH
mose: Whatever. Have a good day.Blackstone: I fully agree.
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MommaC
mose???? so when children are raped, you don't care because you are not affected 'directly' ????
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mose
I do care but the punishment must fit the crime and in this case i dont think it does. I did say i do not condone what he did but i am a bad person because i feel the sentence was too harsh!!!Report Abuse
MommaC
mose...... so rape isn't a serious crime and shouldn't be punished harshly
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RobinH
mose: Then let's agree to differ, shall we, as I will NEVER support your stance. You are welcome to your opinion.Report Abuse
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
Furthermore, when he raped her, she did not cry or resist, and had not sustained any "lasting or noticeable psychological or physical scars".*********************************************************************************************
My comment is about ra.pe in general (not this story in particular)
I am appalled (sp) that the learned ones are passing judgment based on one's reaction.......... people react differently to different situations. Most ra.pe victims will tell you that they froze (could neither move nor scream..)
How sure are they about the psychocological or physical scars........ if that is the case I dont think medicine would have "Post Traumatic Disorder/Stress" in their books.................
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Mellow
Ooohh gosh am gonna throw up I feel sick really your higness you full of crap what does a 15yr old know bout making sound decisions? So you basically blaming the child for being raped geezzz but SA justice you busy screwing us hey damn this country from life sentence to 15yrsReport Abuse
RobinH
MsKinky: Exactly. I am horrified that TWO WOMEN were on the bench and permitted this travesty.Report Abuse
mose
MommaCeach case is unique and in this case my answer is no. NOT SERIOUS
RobinH
Thanks Rob
just out of curiosity, if it is known that they had sex before and gave her gifts, why is he only charged for one rape instead of the previous one as well.? only when he refused to pay up did it become a crime or was the girl older before? so she did not resist, she did not cry and the only thing that constitutes this to be rape is her age.
This are all facts that lead to me saying the sentence was too harsh
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MGEEZ
@SowetanFurthermore, when he raped her, she did not cry or resist, and had not sustained any "lasting or noticeable psychological or physical scars".
Under these circumstances, a sentence of life imprisonment was disproportionate, the judges decided.
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These judges must have been high on some very strong substance I tell you; otherwise how do you explain their foolish verdict!!! Furthermore people who are on pot should not be on duty maan, Nxa
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MommaC
moseWell that explains it all then
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mose
Thanks MommaCReport Abuse
MommaC
moseIt wasn't a complement
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mose
MommaCYa I know. Thanks anyway
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MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@Blackstone.lebsshe probably allowed the sex in anticipation of "gifts"..
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These judges have set a bad precedent. Justice has failed another child.
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Couldnt have said it better...............
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themadam
This story is misleading as there is a lot which is not revealed. Why did the judges reduce the sentence, did the rapist appeal and if so what was the argument presented? To rule on basis that she probably expected gifts in exchange for s@x, I just dont think that was the only reason. Our judges know very well that we have a high rape rate and therefore would not take this lightly.Report Abuse
RobinH
themadam: It was the Appeal Court, so I would assume so. Appeal or not, it remains statutory rape.mose: One rape, two rapes. I don't think courts really care to distinguish. Irrelevant, Sir.
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TheWill1
I dont say this lady wanted to, It happened so many times where these ladies ask for money in the morning and threaten to go to the police because they are suddenly claiming to be under age. so this guy might have had a disagreemnt with this lady and all of a sudden he finds himself in jail. there's always two sides of the story and unfortunately the one who knows how to manipulate the law wins.Report Abuse
RobinH
TheWill: That doesn't even warrant a response.Report Abuse
mose
Robinso the number of counts is irrelevant to you? I guess killing one person and killing 2 also makes no difference to you. how rational of you 'Sir'
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MommaC
TheWill1moral of the story : you must STOP BOINKING CHILDREN
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RobinH
Of course not, mose. You really need to learn the basics of common logic. But murder is murder, just as rape is rape. Multiple counts should only harden the sentence. Nevertheless an acceptable minimum should be imposed for one count. So in determining GUILT, the number of counts is irrelevant. Obviously. Now, as I said, in an attempt to remain polite, can we agree to differ?Report Abuse
themadam
RobinHthemadam: It was the Appeal Court, so I would assume so. Appeal or not, it remains statutory rape.
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And I still maintain that the story is not a complete one, there's a lot missing or not reported. What comes to my mind is the Benedict Vilakazi statutory rape case of which it was also a 15year old girl. Do you know that case, do you still remember it? And I agree this is statutory rape.
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TheWill1
Can someone who is a lawyer or works in circles of law define "statutory rape".Report Abuse
RobinH
themadam: I do, but it doesn't really affect my view on this.MommaC: Exactly!
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MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@TheWill1Can someone who is a lawyer or works in circles of law define "statutory rape
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Consenting age for s.ex in South Africa is 16.
Having se.x with a girl under the age of 16 is statutory r.ape,...... she might have agreed/consented to the act but in the eyes of the law she is not of legal age nor does she have the mental capacity to agree/engage in such acts.
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RobinH
MsKinky: Thanks. Well put. Except it also inculdes s e x with a boy under 16.Report Abuse
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@RobinHHave they amended they act, remember at some point with boys it was referred to as indecent assault and the HR groups were arguing about the "penetration issue".......
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themadam
RobinHthemadam: I do, but it doesn't really affect my view on this.
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malemaforpresident
The girl had had sex with him on a previous occasion after which he gave her underwear, sandals and money as gifts, the judges wrote=======================================================
Furthermore, when he raped her, she did not cry or resist
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Even though the rape of a child was a very serious crime
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There are serious contradictions in the above statements it should have been rape in the first encounter the girl is just a chameleon the Man truly did not rape this girl he should just be released once the poor girl was just selling her body for material things wa gafa
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SebolaNtimetseAdikateMoketla
Add ten for statutoryrun concurrently
let him stay another two in jail
this was but a bit slack
eight years before concluding sentencing gives his defense food in platter
is that why the light sentence?
dont run away from arguments face them
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Moffdat
Always good to see a decision against popular culture. At least the independence of the judiciary is still quite prevalent in our society even though everything else seems to be withering away.Report Abuse
G-ruff
Surely the responsible parents would ve asked the girl where she got all those things....This rapist used money*not sure how he got it* tyo lure the little girl into sleeping with her.Report Abuse
TheWill1
I agree with malemaforpresident, You are only called a thief when someone declared you a thief i.e when someone saw you steal and confirm if that did not happen you can steal a million times but you will not be called a thief because no one knows. This lady had sex before with this guy and this time there was a misunderstanding about reimbursement and hence this guy is now called a rapist.MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
This definition you giving me. does it include the degree of IQ or is it only age that is considered because there are 35 year olds that have IQ's of 13 and vice versa now when you talk mental capacity you are broadning the topic. All I am saying is the law is being used for monetary benefits here. KNOWLEGE IS POWER!! poor guy "rapist"
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RobinH
Kinky> Sorry, yes, you're right.Report Abuse
RobinH
themadam. My view is not the law. I have very strong feelings about the issue of sexual abuse, so not fair to ask. I would impose very heavy sentences.Report Abuse
Parkerjive
The guy had had sex with the girl many times before and the day she says she was raped she did'nt even cry or refused coz she was used to having sex with that man,so stop blaming the poor guy, give him a brakeReport Abuse
RobinH
TheWill. IQ HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. "The law is being used for monetary benefits" WHAT??? How.Report Abuse
mose
If judges lacked the ability to separate emotions and logic like the bloggers here, sentences would depend on the judges mood and how strongly she feels about the subject.Report Abuse
Msiphos00
My point exactly it is wrong for the guy to have consented when the young girl made moves on him and again her parents should also be blamed I mean if your 15yr old dresses up nicely and you don't want to know where she got the clothes from, you promoting her acts. Also what made this girl to keep quiet all this time.The judges should have put it like this "We sentence you for having s/x with a minor - statutory rape and its 15yrs" finish and klaar
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TheWill1
RobinHThe core question is Why is it suddenly called rape if it happened before. The first time it was not called rape and propbably the 2nd,3rd...etc time and now suddenly it is called "rape" surely intelligence must prevail guys.
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MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@MsKinkyakaKamaSutraThis definition you giving me. does it include the degree of IQ or is it only age that is considered because there are 35 year olds that have IQ's of 13 and vice versa now when you talk mental capacity you are broadning the topic. All I am saying is the law is being used for monetary benefits here. KNOWLEGE IS POWER!! poor guy "rapist"
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My answer was based on your question "what is statutory rape"........... mental capacity not necessarily level of maturity/reasoning capacity (mental retardation). Here the Children's Act is used.
When it comes to r.ape involving adule mentally challenged people, that is where the Mental Health Act will give guidance with regards to litigating and or sentencing.
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MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
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RobinH
The Will: I don't have enough info to respond to that. I suspect it was not reported before, but I don't know.MsKinky, thanks again for the explanation.
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Mosquer
@Nongoloza24Stress sa ex ya gago o kare se hlakantša hlogo. Patela maintaince or pasop.
How old was she when she became pregnant?
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Papage
Stupid, how do you justify that Judge? she is only 15 years old.Report Abuse
TheWill1
MsKinkyakaKamaSutraMy point is you can use and manipulte the law if you know how to go about it.That is how lawyers make money.
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Yotywa
This is confusing, Statutory rape doesnt mean the ipxedit of the minor is overruled...Then a reasonable mans test is applied. Anticipating gifts is no reason enough to mual a kids pride.But I cant complain because Tso Vilakazi got away with it too....
I guess the question is "what is a staturoty rape?".
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RobinH
Yotywa: "ipxedit"????Re the question, may I refer you to MsKinky's excellent explanation above. Just scroll up.
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MommaC
Geez. No wonder we have the rape statistics that we do. The idea of boinking children is fully accepted and if a woman was stupid enough to sleep with one of these men then she NEVER has the right to say 'no' ever again.Report Abuse
TheWill1
MommaCYou are missing the point here the law is laid correctly for interpretation but were are talking abuse of the law here.if you bonk with a concesus reimbursemnt is not rape but if something goes wrong with reimbursement then it is rape, where is the line....?
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mphephethwane
...ake nami ngilahlele esivivaneni. in as much as bana bagompieno bale tjatjarag, an adult has de responsibility of acting in a way dat discourages such a behaviour. i recently had a 15yr old offering me her mpundu in exchange 4 a blackberry, & i refused point-blank; i asked her what her mom will say when she suddenly rocks up with an expensive phone...i do not seek 2 be self-righteous by saying this, i am just simply highlighting the fact that an adult has the responsibily to stop such a thing from progressing any further.Report Abuse
RobinH
TheWIll: Surely you are joking. People have laid this out for you time and again. Try and pay attention.mphephethwane: Thanks for that. One of the points I have been trying to make all day. It is up to the adult (supposedly the responsible one in the equation) to halt matters.
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Droooooza
Eish mara kids of today things they do, hai khona.....Report Abuse
TheWill1
You bloggers do not want to get my point I will rest my case nowReport Abuse
thathakonke
I'm not suprised soon there won't be any statutory rape in South Africa. The gorvenment said it's okay for 12 year old to be engaged in sexual intercourse so I guess they will legalise it that a 12 year old can give her/his consent to be involved in sexual intercourse. Viva Banana Zuma republic VivaReport Abuse
KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
The girl(15) had had sex with him on a previous occasion after which he gave her underwear, sandals and money as gifts, the judges wrote.==========================================================
E ne e se e se ngwana o ne a se a butswitse mos.
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RobinH
The Will: We'd love to. But please try and make a point, rather than the interminable questioning.Report Abuse
themadam
RobinHthemadam.
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We need to be careful when dealing with cases like these. In this case we dont have all the facts. Like the Vilakazi case, this girl could have lied about her age and other things but unfortunately unlike Vilakazi the poor guy maybe just could not afford a good lawyer hence he found himself in jail. It could be that the judges realized the mistake which was made and are just being technical with this guy to avoid a claim by this guy against the state. There is something fishy here in this story, it just does not add up and its just unfortunate that sowetan has decided to publish half the story. As a nation, we are all gatvol about the rape stats and feel harsher sentences should be imposed. Judges would not just lessen a sentence unjustifiable.
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MommaC
TheWill1..... no that is theft. If you go to a prostiitute and you don't pay her afterwards then you have stolen from her. If you seduce a child who is physically incapable of making the decision to have sex then it is statutory rape. If you give anyone a present and then demand sex for the rest of eternity, that is called blackmail / coersion. If you have sex with someone who is willing and the next time you want sex, they say 'no' but you force yourself onto them, that is called rape
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MommaC
themadamThat is a constant problem with Sowetan. Half stories.
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RobinH
MommaC and themadam: On this I must agree. The quality of research and reporting here is terrible.Report Abuse
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@TheWill1MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
My point is you can use and manipulte the law if you know how to go about it.That is how lawyers make money.
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sad reality is that it the manipulation is done at the expense of kid(s)
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themadam
RobinH----
Its as if they are saying "fill in the blanks yourself we've done our half job"!!!
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sabza007
Two weeks ago, the same judges deserved a Bell for overturning and extending Sherryl Cwele's sentence....few days after, they take a bizzare decision? Come on now.Report Abuse
Cl!ck-
These judges tossed a coin, I'm telling you..Report Abuse
RobinH
themadam: Yip. And like the good little stooges we so often are, we do just that.... never mind the actual facts. But what choice does one have. One needs to be able to rely on the media in order to be informed. I read a few papers, but only use this one for online comment. The discrepancies between papers can be very amusing. On one occasion, simply by omitting the word "not" The Sowetan reported the exact opposite of what had happened and only corrected it after several letters to their editor.Report Abuse
Makhosini0408
Good afternoonThis is bull, period. It is a fallacy that the women and men on our benches are beyond reproach or shall we say they were under the influence and highly intoxicated with legalising of illegality. For starters, the girl was 15 and surely the man overpowered her in terms of her young mind.
Making this absurb judgement in a country where r@pe is a scourge is tantamount to giving a licence to those scumbags as long as lawyers will argue the technicalities off such attrocities and those idiots at the Supreme Court, will rubber stamp such nonsense. I still say, the playing fields are not level.
How can in the first place reduce statutory r@pe into a business transaction, baffles me. I am loss for words.
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KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
May be her body is unequal to her age the reason mr judge put his judgement that way,today kids are their mothers size you could sometimes think that her mother is her sister.I'm just saying.
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RobinH
Kata: Some things should rather not be said, Sir.Report Abuse
TupacAmaru
My guts tell me that life imprisonment is inappropriate in this case. Thumbs up to the jurors for overturning that sentence.Report Abuse
RobinH
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Mr.Chairman
a) $ex with underage(15) girl is statutory rapeb) 12 year old girl can have abortion without parent's consent
Now can somebody please explain this to me: Does (b) above mean that the 12 year old has been raped? and if so, shouldn't a case of statutoty rape be opened the minute the brat asks for abortion?
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malemaforpresident
PapageStupid, how do you justify that Judge? she is only 15 years old.
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she is only 15 years old.Yeah but with extensive experience in opening her legs with such a big cock why didn’t she scream in the first place screaming is a sign of pain if not probably she was enjoying it
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Moffdat
malemaforpresidentSpoken like a Juju accomplice!!!
Anyway this man should never have gone to jail in the first place. Now eight years of his life have been wasted. This little Brat is about 23 now. She should go to jail for ruining this man's life!
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Moffdatmalemaforpresident
Spoken like a Juju accomplice!!!
Anyway this man should never have gone to jail in the first place. Now eight years of his life have been wasted. This little Brat is about 23 now. She should go to jail for ruining this man's life!
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You may be right or may be wrong. That is why the judges had given that slight hint of BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. These children of today reach the maturity stage arround the age of 15/16 years. Example: you ask her the age, she tells you she is 18years old and persist on that. You propose, eventually you sleep with her. Then what?. You'll end up behind the bars should you get caught. It is your word against hers backed by the state. Afterall you did not ask for her ID. Why would you.
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