The Umkhonto we Sizwe Military Veterans Association’s (MKMVA) Gauteng branches will back President Jacob Zuma for a second term, despite pronouncements by its provincial executive that it would remain neutral.
candilious
@DA-DBN-GUY- Have you ever stupidity at its best
No stupidity at its best is backing Zoomer for a second term so he can rob us with impunity Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
cornelius
The development atNkandla is " a normal thing for a president to do " ! Hahahaaa, these people are brain dead. One must assume that most of these vets probably are not paying tax, so they do not feel the wastage so acutely. The idiotocracy continues. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Charley4sure
Another bunch of old losers. Fools to cry out loud. I do not understand what people see in this thing
called the president of SA. He is busy dragging the country down and they support him still. South
Africa is a mad country if Zuma wins the national elections. Report Abuse
I also agree with the veterans. How do you question the president's house?. Your/Our president is going to rule again like it or not. If you don't want him just pack your bags and go{I DON'T KNOW WHERE} Report Abuse
madumod - Dont worry, he will be recalled in 2015, and then dragged through dirty streets wearing nothing but his underwear. And if you dont like it, you can pack your bags and move somewhere else. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Toivo
When will the ANC cleanse itself and do away with these frustrated MKVA anarchists? The only way to survive for the ANC is to modernize and JZ will never take them there. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
cornelius
@madumod " how do you question his house ?" Really, do you know that it is OUR money that is being used, that he already has an official residence and this is his private home, do you know how much is R 203 mill, you can build a big fancy house with R 5 mill, do you know how many poor people can benefit from R 203 mill ? Tjo. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
CHIEFKHONZAPHI2nd
If vetarans think like this then i don't want to be a vetaran, realy. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
KennyS
How fu^^ken mental handicapped can these morons be. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
DJ-Winner
Everyone back Zuma, except those confused Zimpopo people. Why can't they just cross the border to Zimbabwe? Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
DJ-Winner
The only thing that Mothlante will win is a bowl of masonja... Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Lord-Have-Mercy
Zuma will retain his position UNOPPOSED Report Abuse
He said the regions had decided that Phosa had erred by coming out in support of expelled ANC Youth League president Julius Malema, despite the mandate that the NEC would accept the sanctions.
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That is way out of line comrades, just because he defended Malema then he must be punished. How can you preach unity while you still have something against Phosa? I thought they said any ANC member in good standing can defend other member who faces disciplinary. If member defends other member you complain and when member bring private lawyer, you also complain. What's wrong with this war veteran, is this about principles of ANC or hate on Malema?
Did you want deployment? I know is the culture of current ANC members that you have to support those who put bread on the table (some call it Creme Soda) not supporting principles of the organisation. If you are not afraid to call Malema's name, then you will be promoted. You are taking this movement to wrong direction Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Papage
They can go stay with Zuma at Zumaville or stay poor as they are we dont care Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Lord-Have-Mercy
DJ-Winner
The only thing that Mothlante will win is a bowl of masonja...
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kwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!! hihihihihihihi
"here is a bowl of masonja chief"- Malema Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Dandan
To all of you
here are th emerging news few minutes ago.
"The ANC in the Eastern Cape said on Tuesday it wants President Jacob Zuma to lead the party for another term."
"All our regions have pronounced, and taken the same decision... the majority of our regions agree," Qoboshiyane said.
"The OR Tambo region, Buffalo City Metropolitan region and Nelson Mandela Bay region all agreed on Zuma as president, he said."
@DJ-Winner
Everyone back Zuma, except those confused Zimpopo people. Why can't they just cross the border to Zimbabwe?
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Now your out of order......for someone who claims to have a masters degree saying such nonsense know i begin to ask myself uri do you realy have that masters or just the same illirate little uncircumsied boy just like your president with a 3 weeks computer diploma Report Abuse
what happened with 1tsotsi, how can he disappear on crucial times like this , or perhaps he is working hard campaigning , this is nt time for campaigns , its too late Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
What is the role of MK Veterans............. maybe I have been living under a rock and dont know their relevance............... Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Rragwe
what are the mk veterense, they dont have a say in ANC affairs, theire input is uselles like that of communist party Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
dopla1967
The MK was abolished in 1994 by former President Mandela. All those that misuse the MK name are only anarchist that protect only Zuma even if he is failing. During the past President of Mbeki and Mandela MK veterans were political matured and teachers of the young lions on how to behave in the organisation. They were not given a voting rights as MKVA but as branches of the ANC. I am disappointed by the current so called MKMVA leaders are political bunkrupt but interesting at looting resources from government which was not the aim of the struggle.
When are these idiots going to die anyway, they are so old and still think they can fight young people, we will shoot you. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Dandan - We dont want people that will work for the ANC (or themselves). We want people that will work for South Africa. Something the ANC cant give us. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
SEBIKIBIKI
stupid old vets. maybe they still think we are still in the iron age. Wake up and smell coffee you bunch of idiots.
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Dandan - We dont want people that will work for the ANC (or themselves). We want people that will work for South Africa. Something the ANC cant give us
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Could not hav said it better Sin Report Abuse
brilliant question my love, I wont be nasty with you , as a saying says "Each one teach one " the point is MK is a strongest arm of ANC that led in the downfall of the apartheid, immediately after apartheid was disbanded some of the members were placed with NIA almost 65% of them. I must say Im luck person to identify some of them as agents which is nt possible to come across such people in society.
These people are still members of ANC belonging to branches, when suppose to meet as MK they do so, as you know that in the movement you need to have dual membership, be in SACP,ANC,Cosatu as well. Take for instance SACP is nt going to Mongaung but they will go there with ANC card , just like myself I have SACP , Cosatu and ANC three cards on my wallet.
Dandan - The strongest arm of the ANC? But MK did nothing during apartheid. They were sitting in camps interrogating each other. They played no part in the downfall of the ANC. They were at best a 4th tier fighting force, nothing more. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Dandan
@dopla1967
The MK was abolished in 1994 by former President Mandela. All those that misuse the MK name are only anarchist that protect only Zuma even if he is failing. During the past President of Mbeki and Mandela MK veterans were political matured and teachers of the young lions on how to behave in the organisation. They were not given a voting rights as MKVA but as branches of the ANC. I am disappointed by the current so called MKMVA leaders are political bunkrupt but interesting at looting resources from government which was not the aim of the struggle.
the question is , was Mandela an almighty whose word cant be changed Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Dandan - Even the ANC played a marginal role in the overthrowing of apartheid. The biggest champions in overthrowing apartheid, were actually all the countries that boycotted apartheid South Africa. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Lehido
So, the African national Circus continues Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
cocolucho
@All concerned citizens
If what dandan said is true,then I urge all of you to please campaign for anything but anc in 2014. Save the country if you love it! Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Mgaraji
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Dandan - Even the ANC played a marginal role in the overthrowing of apartheid. The biggest champions in overthrowing apartheid, were actually all the countries that boycotted apartheid South Africa.
______________________________
You were busy feasting on apartheid benefits that is why you did witness the ANC overthrowing apartheid boss. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Mgaraji
Correction
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Dandan - Even the ANC played a marginal role in the overthrowing of apartheid. The biggest champions in overthrowing apartheid, were actually all the countries that boycotted apartheid South Africa.
______________________________
You were busy feasting on apartheid benefits that is why you did not witness the ANC overthrowing apartheid boss. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
CHIEFKHONZAPHI2nd
To all those who don't understand us here you need to read our comments carefully please, we're not saying JZ is going to loose or win at Mangaung as for me specialy but what me and others are saying is His leadership is making the poor to be more poor, his teams provincialy are looters stealing money that doesn't belong to them mark these words "YOU'RE GOING TO BLAME YOURSELVES FOR THIS MISTAKE"
Vetarans are talking unity - what unity if they go against their PEC pronouncement?
Vetarans are talking change - what change if you don't want other people to change leadership?
Those who don't support second term for the president are loosers. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Mgaraji - "You were busy feasting on apartheid benefits that is why you did not witness the ANC overthrowing apartheid boss."
ANC didnt overthrow apartheid. Only ANC sheep dont know this. It was due to international pressure and sanctions.
Come on, you live in South Africa, but you dont even know your own history. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Mgaraji
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Just enjoy apartheid benefits, sing De la Rey and leave history of the struggle to the victims of apartheid basi. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Tibub
Game , set and match .Zuma is winning hands down Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Mgaraji - Come on dude, you cant dodge how you are trying to change history just by making a silly little apartheid quib.
The ANC and even less the MK, did not end apartheid. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Flemza
I just like this The Umkhonto we Sizwe Military Veterans Association , these are the people who should lead they truelly show that they have our country at heart, and they want to see this country developing moving forward. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Flemza - LOL, MK veterans run the country? Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
mdubela
These veterans are no longer relevant, i know it's gonna take a while for them to realise that. For starters, they are not coming to Mangaung as a structure, least they can do is to go there as delegates from their respective provinces/branches. Report Abuse
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MGEEZ
This is to be expected; there is no news here.Report Abuse
DA-DBN-GUY
“Our approach is that of unity, continuity and change, which we believe is the most scientific way to ensure a stable ANC"Just goes to show that brains do not run deep within the ruining party!
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candilious
@DA-DBN-GUY- Have you ever stupidity at its best@MGEEZ- Hi there
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DA-DBN-GUY
candilious@DA-DBN-GUY- Have you ever stupidity at its best
No stupidity at its best is backing Zoomer for a second term so he can rob us with impunity
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cornelius
The development atNkandla is " a normal thing for a president to do " ! Hahahaaa, these people are brain dead. One must assume that most of these vets probably are not paying tax, so they do not feel the wastage so acutely. The idiotocracy continues.Report Abuse
Charley4sure
Another bunch of old losers. Fools to cry out loud. I do not understand what people see in this thingcalled the president of SA. He is busy dragging the country down and they support him still. South
Africa is a mad country if Zuma wins the national elections.
Report Abuse
!!!Sinudeity!!!
ABANCReport Abuse
madumod
I also agree with the veterans. How do you question the president's house?. Your/Our president is going to rule again like it or not. If you don't want him just pack your bags and go{I DON'T KNOW WHERE}Report Abuse
DA-DBN-GUY
madumodAs d u m b as mud!
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!!!Sinudeity!!!
madumod - Dont worry, he will be recalled in 2015, and then dragged through dirty streets wearing nothing but his underwear. And if you dont like it, you can pack your bags and move somewhere else.Report Abuse
Toivo
When will the ANC cleanse itself and do away with these frustrated MKVA anarchists? The only way to survive for the ANC is to modernize and JZ will never take them there.Report Abuse
cornelius
@madumod " how do you question his house ?" Really, do you know that it is OUR money that is being used, that he already has an official residence and this is his private home, do you know how much is R 203 mill, you can build a big fancy house with R 5 mill, do you know how many poor people can benefit from R 203 mill ? Tjo.Report Abuse
CHIEFKHONZAPHI2nd
If vetarans think like this then i don't want to be a vetaran, realy.Report Abuse
KennyS
How fu^^ken mental handicapped can these morons be.Report Abuse
DJ-Winner
Everyone back Zuma, except those confused Zimpopo people. Why can't they just cross the border to Zimbabwe?Report Abuse
DJ-Winner
The only thing that Mothlante will win is a bowl of masonja...Report Abuse
Lord-Have-Mercy
Zuma will retain his position UNOPPOSEDReport Abuse
madumod
AReport Abuse
madumod
At least you agree with me that he will come back from Mangaung. Thanks mrena. 2015 re tla e bona ge re fitlha ko yona.Report Abuse
DA-DBN-GUY
Retards will re-elect their leeduhReport Abuse
Matso
He said the regions had decided that Phosa had erred by coming out in support of expelled ANC Youth League president Julius Malema, despite the mandate that the NEC would accept the sanctions.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
That is way out of line comrades, just because he defended Malema then he must be punished. How can you preach unity while you still have something against Phosa? I thought they said any ANC member in good standing can defend other member who faces disciplinary. If member defends other member you complain and when member bring private lawyer, you also complain. What's wrong with this war veteran, is this about principles of ANC or hate on Malema?
Did you want deployment? I know is the culture of current ANC members that you have to support those who put bread on the table (some call it Creme Soda) not supporting principles of the organisation. If you are not afraid to call Malema's name, then you will be promoted. You are taking this movement to wrong direction
Report Abuse
Papage
They can go stay with Zuma at Zumaville or stay poor as they are we dont careReport Abuse
Lord-Have-Mercy
DJ-WinnerThe only thing that Mothlante will win is a bowl of masonja...
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kwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!! hihihihihihihi
"here is a bowl of masonja chief"- Malema
Report Abuse
Dandan
To all of youhere are th emerging news few minutes ago.
"The ANC in the Eastern Cape said on Tuesday it wants President Jacob Zuma to lead the party for another term."
"All our regions have pronounced, and taken the same decision... the majority of our regions agree," Qoboshiyane said.
"The OR Tambo region, Buffalo City Metropolitan region and Nelson Mandela Bay region all agreed on Zuma as president, he said."
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So, do we still need any hackling and shouting at each other, all those not happy with Zuma must leave position for ppl prepared to work for ANC
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VENDALIOUS
@DJ-WinnerEveryone back Zuma, except those confused Zimpopo people. Why can't they just cross the border to Zimbabwe?
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Now your out of order......for someone who claims to have a masters degree saying such nonsense know i begin to ask myself uri do you realy have that masters or just the same illirate little uncircumsied boy just like your president with a 3 weeks computer diploma
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Dandan
DJ-Winner".....Zimpopo....."
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kwakwakwakwakwak tltiltiltiltiltilti hihihihihihihihhi
what happened with 1tsotsi, how can he disappear on crucial times like this , or perhaps he is working hard campaigning , this is nt time for campaigns , its too late
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MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
What is the role of MK Veterans............. maybe I have been living under a rock and dont know their relevance...............Report Abuse
Rragwe
what are the mk veterense, they dont have a say in ANC affairs, theire input is uselles like that of communist partyReport Abuse
dopla1967
The MK was abolished in 1994 by former President Mandela. All those that misuse the MK name are only anarchist that protect only Zuma even if he is failing. During the past President of Mbeki and Mandela MK veterans were political matured and teachers of the young lions on how to behave in the organisation. They were not given a voting rights as MKVA but as branches of the ANC. I am disappointed by the current so called MKMVA leaders are political bunkrupt but interesting at looting resources from government which was not the aim of the struggle.ANC4Life
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Papage
When are these idiots going to die anyway, they are so old and still think they can fight young people, we will shoot you.Report Abuse
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Dandan - We dont want people that will work for the ANC (or themselves). We want people that will work for South Africa. Something the ANC cant give us.Report Abuse
SEBIKIBIKI
stupid old vets. maybe they still think we are still in the iron age. Wake up and smell coffee you bunch of idiots.Report Abuse
candilious
!!!Sinudeity!!!Dandan - We dont want people that will work for the ANC (or themselves). We want people that will work for South Africa. Something the ANC cant give us
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Could not hav said it better Sin
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Lord-Have-Mercy
http://www.timeslive.co.za/politics/2012/10/09/eastern-cape-anc-picks-zuma-for-another-termReport Abuse
Dandan
@MsKinkyakaKamaSutrabrilliant question my love, I wont be nasty with you , as a saying says "Each one teach one " the point is MK is a strongest arm of ANC that led in the downfall of the apartheid, immediately after apartheid was disbanded some of the members were placed with NIA almost 65% of them. I must say Im luck person to identify some of them as agents which is nt possible to come across such people in society.
These people are still members of ANC belonging to branches, when suppose to meet as MK they do so, as you know that in the movement you need to have dual membership, be in SACP,ANC,Cosatu as well. Take for instance SACP is nt going to Mongaung but they will go there with ANC card , just like myself I have SACP , Cosatu and ANC three cards on my wallet.
Thats how it goes
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!!!Sinudeity!!!
Dandan - The strongest arm of the ANC? But MK did nothing during apartheid. They were sitting in camps interrogating each other. They played no part in the downfall of the ANC. They were at best a 4th tier fighting force, nothing more.Report Abuse
Dandan
@dopla1967The MK was abolished in 1994 by former President Mandela. All those that misuse the MK name are only anarchist that protect only Zuma even if he is failing. During the past President of Mbeki and Mandela MK veterans were political matured and teachers of the young lions on how to behave in the organisation. They were not given a voting rights as MKVA but as branches of the ANC. I am disappointed by the current so called MKMVA leaders are political bunkrupt but interesting at looting resources from government which was not the aim of the struggle.
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the question is , was Mandela an almighty whose word cant be changed
Report Abuse
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Dandan - Even the ANC played a marginal role in the overthrowing of apartheid. The biggest champions in overthrowing apartheid, were actually all the countries that boycotted apartheid South Africa.Report Abuse
Lehido
So, the African national Circus continuesReport Abuse
cocolucho
@All concerned citizensIf what dandan said is true,then I urge all of you to please campaign for anything but anc in 2014. Save the country if you love it!
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Mgaraji
!!!Sinudeity!!!Dandan - Even the ANC played a marginal role in the overthrowing of apartheid. The biggest champions in overthrowing apartheid, were actually all the countries that boycotted apartheid South Africa.
______________________________
You were busy feasting on apartheid benefits that is why you did witness the ANC overthrowing apartheid boss.
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Mgaraji
Correction!!!Sinudeity!!!
Dandan - Even the ANC played a marginal role in the overthrowing of apartheid. The biggest champions in overthrowing apartheid, were actually all the countries that boycotted apartheid South Africa.
______________________________
You were busy feasting on apartheid benefits that is why you did not witness the ANC overthrowing apartheid boss.
Report Abuse
CHIEFKHONZAPHI2nd
To all those who don't understand us here you need to read our comments carefully please, we're not saying JZ is going to loose or win at Mangaung as for me specialy but what me and others are saying is His leadership is making the poor to be more poor, his teams provincialy are looters stealing money that doesn't belong to them mark these words "YOU'RE GOING TO BLAME YOURSELVES FOR THIS MISTAKE"Vetarans are talking unity - what unity if they go against their PEC pronouncement?
Vetarans are talking change - what change if you don't want other people to change leadership?
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madumod
Those who don't support second term for the president are loosers.Report Abuse
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Mgaraji - "You were busy feasting on apartheid benefits that is why you did not witness the ANC overthrowing apartheid boss."ANC didnt overthrow apartheid. Only ANC sheep dont know this. It was due to international pressure and sanctions.
Come on, you live in South Africa, but you dont even know your own history.
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Mgaraji
!!!Sinudeity!!!Just enjoy apartheid benefits, sing De la Rey and leave history of the struggle to the victims of apartheid basi.
Report Abuse
Tibub
Game , set and match .Zuma is winning hands downReport Abuse
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Mgaraji - Come on dude, you cant dodge how you are trying to change history just by making a silly little apartheid quib.The ANC and even less the MK, did not end apartheid.
Report Abuse
Flemza
I just like this The Umkhonto we Sizwe Military Veterans Association , these are the people who should lead they truelly show that they have our country at heart, and they want to see this country developing moving forward.Report Abuse
!!!Sinudeity!!!
Flemza - LOL, MK veterans run the country?Report Abuse
mdubela
These veterans are no longer relevant, i know it's gonna take a while for them to realise that. For starters, they are not coming to Mangaung as a structure, least they can do is to go there as delegates from their respective provinces/branches.Report Abuse
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