The Limpopo ANC is in favour of Kgalema Motlanthe taking over as the party’s president at its conference in Mangaung, provincial secretary Soviet Lekganyane says
They have left Robert Mugabe in the top six? They should get serious! Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
warry
If Malema can tell the Limpopo PEC to do. 360 degree turn, they will do it without thinking. Good luck guys, but seems as if he will get the beating if he stands. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Stumtum
It comes as no suprise their nomination is so weak except for Kgalema but he too must be for deputy president for now his term is coming. Report Abuse
That is why I love ANC they move on with all the baggage to replace a baggage, Mathale for all people, this proves what kind of recycled leadership the mighty ANC has. replace a crook with gentleman sorrounded by irresponsible crooks, it's like saying I am tired of eating pap with potatoes and I would rather eat potatoes with pap, sounds the same to me except that the other plate is dominated with pap and the other with potatoes, but it's all carbs anyway. This is the kind of change we might get from 2300 delegates in Mangaung Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
warry
Atleast you noted Malema is out. No mentioning of his name. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
MommaC
Mathale is treading on thin ice. His only 'get out of jail' card is in his hands now. He had best be very careful which table he plays it at.
Whilst interesting, it is quite irrelevant as the horse-trading has already started and, by the time they get to Mangaung it will be a formality Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Lord-Have-Mercy
THIS IS MALEMA'S WINNING TEAM
Motlante will never win as a Anc Pre against anc Prs Zuma
Tokyo mos def wont win as a Dep pres -------vs Cyril Ramaphosa
Mathew Phosa will loose his current position
Fikile Mabalula cant beat Gwede as secretary General( most mangaung deligates will vote him)
poor Limpopians, Malema is not going down alone but with his Camp
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on the other GP's hand
Let say he win @ Mangaung but will he win the national votes because not only delegates will be voting. Giving it to DA on the silver platter, will he able to forgive himself for that? Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
KeRataBasadi
Sadly, it makes no difference, just vote for a different party, if not to take the excessive power away from the looters then atleast do it for your conscience. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
cornelius
@ DJWinner - you are happy to have another 6 yrs of being led by a bumbling dancing and singing fool, who cannot even read his speeches properly, will probably marry another 6 wives, abuses taxpayers money to ensure luxury for himself while the rest of the country is writhing in poverty and fear ? You must have your brain transplanted. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Hail
What happen to Women "s league? Where are those powerfull women that used to stand for what is right than taking anything that is thrown to them for the sake of the positions at the parlament.No wonder he (president) did not take steps towards the motsh*kga about the limpopo book saga, he is keeping her for the votes of the women 's league. Mara le bona basadi ba cannot think for themselves? Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
DJ-Winner
cornelius
@ DJWinner - you are happy to have another 6 yrs of being led by a bumbling dancing and singing fool, who cannot even read his speeches properly, will probably marry another 6 wives, abuses taxpayers money to ensure luxury for himself while the rest of the country is writhing in poverty and fear ? You must have your brain transplanted.
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I don't know where does all this anger comes from now. It is not a crime to dance and sing. Zuma is not the only President doing this. Newly elected President of Venezuela is doing the same. I think Zuma is reading properly. I understand him, South Africans do. This is not England, I would be annoyed if Zuma was failing to express himself in his home language (Zulu).
Well, culture allows Zuma to get married. You cannot challenge Zuma and fail to challenge culture at the same time. You are not making sense. Ban the culture, then we will understand.
South Africans are not living in povery. We the only country that offers grants in Africa. Look, we don't support unnecessary spending. I will not comment on his house yet until I get all the relevant information. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
ngwanamaganagobotswa
Makhuduthamaga - Sekhukhune region where Masemola comes from nominated Zuma as President. Makhuduthamaga is influencial sub-region in Sekhukhune, the other region like Tubatse is full of bo-comrades mafikizolo, opportunists and careerist that they will not decide on themselves, they are waitng for Malema like the PEC because they are one that was deployed by him, e.g Mayor and Manucipal manager and the rest of directors at Tubatse Manucipality with taeching Diplomas. Most of them are chairpersons and secretaries of the branches and permanents delegates and members member e.g Mathale and Malema. Waterberg nominate Zuma.
Soviet is afraid of Masemola, he said all the PEC members will voter according to thir wish list and they fool some by saying that they will be NEC members e.g Thabitha Mohlala, who is she in the struggle of the ANC? Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
msizi
Guys please, lets not forget that Motlanthe is also ANC, if he becomes President i don't see how he will change things, chances are he will be just as corrupt and just as incompetent and money-hungry like all the other former ANC leaders except Mandela . I think we need a new political party to lead us, switching Presidents within the same party is a futile exercise, same sh.t different guy. Incompetence and looting runs in the ANC's veins, nobody within the ANC is immune to this sickness so stop fooling yourselves my people. Cry the once beloved country :( Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
warry
@ Hail, can limpopo people think for themselves and independently of Malema. I mean the boy is tender rich and he is fraud rich and corruption rich and still let the poor dudes singing for him. I saw another Thandiwe Mandela a certain white lady telling the nation about malema's ascendancy to Presidency of the nation and said haaaaaawwwwuuuuu Malema is dating old white women now. Atleast democracy works wonders in limpopo. Don't worry as a province you may vote for DA then they will lock Mathale in jail. This time won't be Zuma, it will be DA and they know their story those ones. Go vote for DA then get your Dalai Kamas locked in jail for a long time. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
sh!tFaceSamsung
msholozi ur days are numbered : can't wait for mangaung : yipeee! Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Seja-Bana
THE MANGAUNG RACE HAS STARTED, WHO WILL FINISH ON A HIGH? Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
DJ-Winner
Can Mothlante speak? This guy is painfully shy... Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
RobinH
Do we really need a daily blow by blow account of this absurd internal issue? They're all very dubious in any case so in my view it makes little difference which blind sheep will lead the blinder flock. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
overthemoon
DJ Winner
KZN is not guranteed since some want Bheki Cele as the Pres. So Zuma can't safely say that KZN is his. The province is divided, he only got half the support. and me as anti Zuma I am happy. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
DJ-Winner
overthemoon
DJ Winner
KZN is not guranteed since some want Bheki Cele as the Pres. So Zuma can't safely say that KZN is his. The province is divided, he only got half the support. and me as anti Zuma I am happy.
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Clearly you don't know how Zulus operate. Did you know that even IFP supporters voted for ANC in 2009 just because of Zuma? Well, I don't support tribalism, but there is nothing we can do. I don't see Zulus voting for Mothlante over Zuma to be honest. This is wrong ofcourse if we look at it in terms of tribalism...but it is the reality of the situation that we are face with. We can hope we will change the mindset of people in the future... Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
warry
Hahahaha Bheki Celebration for President? We know Bheki goes with the anti Zuma camp but they will loose and he will find himself in the cold and the wife will divorce him and get mad. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Shredder
@DJ-Winner
Well, Zuma has won, ladies and gentlemen.
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I wonder why do love that man who is tearing the country apart.
@Mzabalazo - You are so spot on dear. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Tikoloshe
Hihihi, what a joke this motley bunch of thieves, sharletons and incompents are....are these Pedi's really serious or is this a joke Sowtean????
Surprised they left Madikizela off as Deputy President.......
Mangaung is going to be like stealing monies from Limps Govt....very very easy. We going to Mangaung to plan third term for JZ with Cyril as our Deputy President!!! Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
CharlesTaylor
No one supports Bheki Cele here in KZN, those were unfounded rumors from anti-Zuma campaigners. Yes there are those few who promotes leadership change, but they are quiet because they see that it is an unattainable battle.
KZN will go to Mangaung 100% behind Zuma, we have been attending Branches meetings and we are determined to retain the current leadership and also change the ANCYL leadership after Mangaung. Lamola's of this world must rest assured that their time is near. We want to restore dignity to our ANCYL. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
mokudubete
@MZISI,you are rite,i don't see why people should be happy about change in leadership,the party is still the same,policies and alliances stays the same. Report Abuse
"Clearly you don't know how Zulus operate. Did you know that even IFP supporters voted for ANC in 2009 just because of Zuma?"
Judging from the above statement Zulu's are an enigma but the one thing I can deduce from this is that the IFP have shape shifted into the ANC. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
thinya
These people are using ntate Motlanthe as their stepladder because he is too soft, not long he will be replaced by Juju boy. Report Abuse
Mzabalazo: Once again a wonderfully astute observation.
Shredder, Mzabalazo is one sharp cookie. I am developing major respect for her.
Have a great day, both of you, my friends. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Vantyi
With Zuma in charge the country is performing very well, he stands up 4 ppl, every1 is happy with him, there are no strikes, the economy is @ its highest level. So Zuma supperters do u really believe in that. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
DJ-Winner
Shredder
@DJ-Winner
Well, Zuma has won, ladies and gentlemen.
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I wonder why do love that man who is tearing the country apart.
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Well, I love women not guys. Zuma has not teared country apart. Infact, he has saved it from Julius and friends of Malema... Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Lehido
I say Zuma must go, ans Cassel Mathale too Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Charley4sure
CharlesTaylor
No one supports Bheki Cele here in KZN, those were unfounded rumors from anti-Zuma campaigners. Yes there are those few who promotes leadership change, but they are quiet because they see that it is an unattainable battle.
KZN will go to Mangaung 100% behind Zuma, we have been attending Branches meetings and we are determined to retain the current leadership and also change the ANCYL leadership after Mangaung. Lamola's of this world must rest assured that their time is near. We want to restore dignity to our ANCYL.
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In your dreams. This is not IFP, you won’t change the leadership of the ANCYL.
There are procedures to be followed, there is the constitution of the ANC and
the ANCYL . Keep dreaming, the leadership of the ANCYL will only change is
2014. Chief that is daylight dreaming, please stop misleading people. On what
what basis will you change the leadership of the ANCYL? Based on which
principles will you try to change the leadership of the ANCYL? The leadership
of the ANCYL will not change in our life time and we will fight to the end to
defend the ANCYL. You can fool those elders, not the youth of this country.
I cannot believe some of you bloggers are happy about Mangaung, after all the bullsh.t that the ANC has done , i thought our leaders are blind but now i realize our society is even blinder (& i don't meant that in the kasi sense of being hot) Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
cocolucho
@All except djwinner
Good people please ignore the rantings and ravings of this dj,the container that his brain is in has been contaminated due to a piercing by a spear that has left some spillage in his brain, not to worry though if he takes a shower he may be able to get rid of the liquids contaminating his brain. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
DJ-Winner
cocolucho
@All except djwinner
Good people please ignore the rantings and ravings of this dj,the container that his brain is in has been contaminated due to a piercing by a spear that has left some spillage in his brain, not to worry though if he takes a shower he may be able to get rid of the liquids contaminating his brain
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Same joke is not funny twice. You made this joke yesterday.... Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
cocolucho
@djwinner
Its not a joke, please for your sake take a brain shower Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
warry
Motlhanthe knows what crooks supports him. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
DJ-Winner
cocolucho
@djwinner
Its not a joke, please for your sake take a brain shower
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I agree you tried to tell a joke that is not very funny.. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Tsar-Rasputin
In terms of the available information Gauteng, EC, WC, Limpopo , Northen Cape , ANC Youth league seems to be supporting Kgalema. Is this sufficient to challenge the President? Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
DJ-Winner
Sowetan is taking sides. It is blocking comments under Zuma article... Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Phathuza
They must remove mbalulas name from that list, His dept is misusing tax payers money Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
MmaSeshego
warry
@ Hail, can limpopo people think for themselves and independently of Malema.
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Some of us still can, do and not even for a moment support the shenanigans happening in our beloved province Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Lord-Have-Mercy
Some people forgerttha that Zuma is not alone in the Govt also there is Motlante and others Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
xikosi
Should Zuma win in MANGAUNG<<< I foresee danger for Mathale and his PEC Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Toivo
In the run-up to the Polokwane conference in 2007, numbers were used to fool the faction supporting Thabo Mbeki into believing it would win. As branches nominated candidates, text messages flew across the country. Here is one of them:
"Comrades please receive the synopsis on the trends of bgm's (branch general meetings) across the various provinces. These numbers were valid as of Wednesday night & we are yet to update the analysis with bgm outcomes of Thursday & tonight. 1. In the E CAPE of the 258 bgms that have quorated 200 nominated TM & 58 JZ. 2. In Limpopo of the 135 bgms that have quorated 96 nominated TM & 39 JZ. 3. In N WEST of the 130 bgms that have quorated 116 nominated TM & 14 JZ. 4. In W CAPE of the 115 bgms that quorated 107 nominated TM & 7 JZ & 1 TOKYO. 5. In N CAPE of the 17 bgms 6 nominated TM & 11 JZ (it is instructive to note that 3 of our strongest regions Francis Baard, Siyanda & Namaqua are yet to start with bgms). 6. FS we r awaiting final tallies. 7. GAUTENG has just started but will monitor its progress. 8. Mpumalanga we are awaiting final tallies but not looking good. 9. KZN awaiting final tallies but not looking good."
As you can see, the Mbeki faction believed it was ahead. History shows that the numbers lied to them. This should be a lesson to those who support Zuma for a second term today. Many of them are smug and believe they have already won. They need to remember that many provinces and structures of the party say they support Zuma, but in places like Gauteng delegates are already saying they will not be dictated to when they arrive in Mangaung. It is, after all, a secret ballot.
You should be knowing the reason of postponing the Elective Conference of ANCYL that was suppose to be held in September. The current leadership was afraid that they may loose their positions and fail to continue with their anti-Zuma campaign. The Conference was then postponed to after Mangaung. Still then, the current ANCYL leaders will be removed, by the real ANCYL. watch this space! Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
CharlesTaylor
Charley4sure
After suspension of Malema and co, there was a need to replace them, Lamola is not the president and after Mangaung ANCYL will elect the real leaders. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Pointman
When idiots start voting, you just stand by and shudder or despair or weep. Such is the nature of democracy. When dangerous idiots start voting - then hope is gone. Report Abuse
Which ANCYL you are referring to? which province? because the only ANCYL which is againts
the current leadership is KZN and they do not have much influence on other provinces.
The ANCYL in EC, Gauteng, LP, MP, WC, NC, NC, NW are anti-Zuma, expect for Pule Mabe.
We know that YCL are pro-Zuma, no one can blame them or take them serious, they are a bunch of
clueless communist, just like Blade. Please be specific enough comrade. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Charley4sure
CharlesTaylor
The ANCYL NEC will decide whether to vote for leadership of the ANCYL or not. But the ANC will
never ever decide the leadership of the ANCYL don't get it twisted, whether you agree with them or
not. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
MAKIZE
Limpopo thinks Malema is our god like them. If they think Malema its best thing ever happened some of us dont think so. Magaung is around the corner if Kgalema is elected as Pres will have no problem and we will respect the siiting Pres in Kgalima.But goodluck to him Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Sipho2001
Anc voters are like a football coach that keeps picking his son as captain even though everyone knows the kid is a hopeless player. They lose every game and everyone gets depressed yet everytime without fail he will keep picking his son.
Eventually the team gets relegated to the 10th division but the coach just can't seem to see what the problem is and he just keeps picking his favourite as captain.
All the other players and people watching tell the coach the problem but he is just to stubborn to change his mind.... South Africa is now playing in the 10th division. Thanks to those stubborn voters. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
CharlesTaylor
Charley4sure
Dictatorship - some province's PEC's were disbanded because they were against the current NEC. Come post Mangaung when Julias and his crooks will be silenced forever, then you will see evolution in the ANCYL. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
CharlesTaylor
Sipho2001
No no no, don't involve Jomo Sono in politics!!! Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Charley4sure
CharlesTaylor
You do not just wake up in the morning and decide the ANCYL must change. There are processes,
there are procedures to follow. Even if Zuma wins in Mangaung, he will not decide the leadership of the
young lions of OR Tambo, Walter Sisulu, Nelson Mandela, Peter Mokaba, Fikile Mbalula and
Julius Malema. Which part of constitution will the ANC site to change the leadership of the ANCYL?
KZN is not guranteed since some want Bheki Cele as the Pres. So Zuma can't safely say that KZN is his. The province is divided, he only got half the support. and me as anti Zuma I am happy
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Where are you getting your facts from young lady? Strong support for ZUMA is mainly from KZN. Report Abuse
Motlante is neither trustworthy nor dangerous thats where the problem is, i stil.have to hear a good reason from him why he believ Juju shouldnt hv been fired, does he mean the ANC disciplinary processes are so useless and lack credibility Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Flemza
I`m not suprised , what does limpopo know about politics any way except just to be a yes boy to Malema, no wonder I`m not from that useless province , thanks God I`m not assosciated with this province Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
mokudubete
@all,i have a question,what is our problem in our govt,is it the party or the individual elected within the party,or policies applied by the ruling party,if the answer is yes to all those questions,the solution is not the change of leadership to the ruling party,but rather go for another party with new system of doing things,beccause retaining the presnt party just bringing somebody new from the very same party i don't see how is that going to turn things around. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Mphorozza
Fikile is not yet ready to be the GS I think if they can suggest Joel Netshiteze it will be a very strong side to comp[ete the shower. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Thespear
Well said Toivo: It is becoming clear that people don't understand the happennings in the ANC, I bet on the name of Harry Gwala that Kwazulu Natal will not be 100% behind JZ, that is highly impossible in the ANC, maybe in the IFP, the same applies to Mpumalanga and Free State, it is the media's wish, but in principle, it's not possible, remember that even Mbeki fans then, indicated that EC was the largest when it comes to numbers, and they will all vote against Zuma, it b=never happenned, lastley due to political killings in KZN, it might be possible to intimidate branches but come Mangaung those chains will be removed as we will be talking of secret ballot, those in KZN, should remember that you come to power through the sword you will be removed through the sword.... Report Abuse
DJ-Winner
Well, Zuma has won, ladies and gentlemen. KZN, Women's league and Mpumalanga are good enough. The next province will just be a bonus...
I told you people, I told you...
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remember there is still Free state behind Zuma, if i was Motlathe i would decline the nomination to avoid humiliation. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Thespear
Charlie taylor sound like a jonny come late in the ANC, the problem with this new comrades they join yesterday and they claim they know the movement by reading news papers report, any young man worth of being called a revolutionary in the ANC, knows for a fact that, the ANCYL is autonomous, only those who joined after 2007, has a different view and unfortunatley narrow view.
For the first time in the history of the ANC did the mother body interviened by firing a president of its youth leaque, instead of choosing political discource, now, that is the start of dictatorsip, but the youth of all provinces has seen through this, and refused to budge, which let to those in goverment using their power to buy loyalty in the form of Manana and Mabe, but it is clear the youth are not budging, and I support their stand for it is not only correct but a principle stand, which proves that we stillhave young lions out there who are more principled than leaders who have been in the movement for more than 35 years, that why the ANC will never dissapear... Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Stimela
overthemoon
DJ Winner
KZN is not guranteed since some want Bheki Cele as the Pres. So Zuma can't safely say that KZN is his. The province is divided, he only got half the support. and me as anti Zuma I am happy.
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you are mistaken my dear, KZN branches nominated Bheki Cele for an NEC position not President, Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
ChampRef
Zuma for second term
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Oct 9, 2012
Moffdat
This country cannot take another five years of Zuma! Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Djembe
Limpompo is one province that is not thinking straight since the malema saga. Their choice is not based on intergrity instead they are driven by anger. Mangaung has become a comedy it has lost the meaning. The whole thing is not about ANC s ideologies anymore it is about indivisuals and love and hate drama. This kind of behaviour has made our continent become the poorest in the world and unfortunately cmrds like Sexwale, Phosa, Mashatile, Mbalula, Modise and many others don't realise the grave they are digging for the ANC. The same people are also leaving extravagantly in the porchest surbubs at the taxpayers money they are all up there and yet people are still drinking dirty water while the buy bottled water common guys 'who is fooling who' with anc needs change? The same people talking about change want to keep their positions or climb higher on the ladder. Recently Mashatile, Phahla and Xaba hosted Social Cohesion thousands or millions of taxpayers money again spent where are the result what did we get out of it? As far as I am concern nothing is what we mean about new leadership? I can't believe that such educated men and women never learn so cmrds continue to kill our party and our country. ANC needs Zuma and Zuma needs ANC if Msholozi goes he will go with a huge percentage of supporters and this will be the end of the road for ANC. You can never have two (surnames) families in one family especially us Africans. Quote from Shaka ka Senzangakhona "Ngenke nilibuse liyobuswa ondlebe zikhanyilanga" Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Lord-Have-Mercy
Malema and his crew + his followers are screwed, Mangaung Pres is for JZ,
Deputy is either Motlante or Cyril
Bad campaingn and failed campaign from the youth league.
ANC is not for mofies.
Can the Youth league have Media conference, i wish to hear what are they now going to say
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Malema now foresee the direction of the pot full of gravy. his "new strategy card" is that
in Dec or next month, Malema will praise Jacob Zuma's leadership as a President and Motlante's leadership as a Deputy President
All Malema followers will be left stranded and confused Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Djembe
Comrades forget this change business people want service delivery, health care, proper schools, jobs and of course economy empowerment finish. Even Obama shouted Change we need , yes we can but for the last four years for the poor man US is still the same.
Change is not what we need, people of Emzantsi need the above mentioned. Mbaks and Mashatile must also declare their status as playboys at least Msholozi is open about it.
Performance is the key to our problems not thi talk, talk. We are tired of big talkers but no service delivery. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
midastouch
The movement is dead!! only idiots and jokers scrambling for power and money!! what happened to a better life for all? ANIMAL FARM!!!!! Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
dopla1967
To all ANC Province & Branches please nominate the following leaders for the ANC
President : Cyril Ramaphosa
Deputy President : Nkosazana Dlamini Zuma/ Gill Marcus
Secretary General : Joel Netitshendze
Deputy Secretary General : Zwelinzima Vavi
Treasurer : Trevor Manuel
Chairman : Naledi Pandor
ANC is not about factionalism or trebalism but is about the upliftment of south african society from poverty, unemployment and the respect of the constitution. To achieve this please nominate the above leadership in the coming Manguang Conference in December
This movement needs new leaders outright. If this guy wins he'll bring back Julius who will help him bring SA to it's knees for good. I gotta find a country that works...cos this one is on a slippery slope, and the slope is getting steeper... Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Matso
Motlanthe is the only leader who can bring peace and order in the party. Like Mandela as he rescued white people after apartheid and preach for reconciliation, I think is what Motlanthe intends it to happen in the ANC.
Firstly, after Mbeki and Zuma fallout, Mbeki was planning to destroy Zuma political career permanently but Kgalema stand his ground to ensure that power is not used to settle political score. The same thing happen when Zuma is still busy trying to destroy Malema and his opponents in the party, and Kgalema stand his ground again and say this is not how ANC should operate.
Motlanthe is the principled ANC leader, he does not kill his opponents but always open for constructive criticism unlike Blade and Jacob. In Polokwane, no one knows which camp is Motlanthe belongs until supporters of Zuma and Mbeki showed their preferred list of candidates. The Mbeki camp ommitted him from the list as Mbeki was no longer wanting to work with him as he was not his "yes" man, this was also attributed by Mbeki's mother that Kgalema has his own thinking in the media few weeks back. Is then when Kgalema accepted the candidacy from Zuma's list as deputy president of the party.
He is one of the only few ANC leader (i.e. Zola Skweyiya, Joel Netitshenzhe, Pallo Jordan) who always reprimanded Malema and show him the way but Zuma and Malema were once regarded him as their enemy before their comradeship ends.
He doesn't believe in those who use their political power to settle political scores. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Nkweshengg
@Flemza
I`m not suprised , what does limpopo know about politics any way except just to be a yes boy to Malema, no wonder I`m not from that useless province , thanks God I`m not assosciated with this province
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You are generalizing here. Not all people in Limpopo support Malema and his shallow Zim ideas.
When you ask what Limpopo knows about politics,I will tel you what Limpopo knows about politics:
Limpopo knows that you dont have to be a murderer who goes on a killing spree of political opponents like your murderous province everytime there are political contests.
Thats what Limpopo knows about politics. O nkwele wena senwamadi a batho?
@dopla1967
To all ANC Province & Branches please nominate the following leaders for the ANC
President : Cyril Ramaphosa
Deputy President : Nkosazana Dlamini Zuma/ Gill Marcus
Secretary General : Joel Netitshendze
Deputy Secretary General : Zwelinzima Vavi
Treasurer : Trevor Manuel
Chairman : Naledi Pandor
ANC is not about factionalism or trebalism but is about the upliftment of south african society from poverty, unemployment and the respect of the constitution. To achieve this please nominate the above leadership in the coming Manguang Conference in December
ANC4Life
There is no better way to suggest change well said "We need people like you to save our beloved country" This is what I call CHANGE of LEADERSHIP. Respect dopla1967
Mothlante is still Malema s man. Mbaks and Mashatile just want to stay on top and enrich themselves further. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Matso
Flemza
I`m not suprised , what does limpopo know about politics any way except just to be a yes boy to Malema, no wonder I`m not from that useless province , thanks God I`m not assosciated with this province
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The charges against Malema were inflicted by those who were seeing him as block to step the ladder like Zuma and Ramaphosa. Their fight against Mbeki turned them blind so that they don't see bad or wrong but they are only concebtrating on either you are with us or against us. They get mad when Malema mentioned that Mbeki was best ANC leader have ever produced while they regard themselves as better leaders than Mbeki. Remember that Ramaphosa was knocked out of ANC by Mbeki and Zuma while in turn Zuma knocked out Mbeki. So the common enemy for this two is Mbeki, to mention his name and his leadership as the best in ANC after OR Tambo and Mandela hurts other a lot.
Zuma and Ramaphosa don't want to hear or see this man's name, they get angry (e.g. In centenary celebration, Zuma didn't want to attend the same gala dinner/ fundraising with Mbeki. Before Polokwane elective conference, Ramaphosa said he won't contest the election of ANC as long as Mbeki is still there). Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
DA-DBN-GUY
WarrenG
This movement needs new leaders outright. If this guy wins he'll bring back Julius who will help him bring SA to it's knees for good. I gotta find a country that works...cos this one is on a slippery slope, and the slope is getting steeper...
Already found such a country and will be in it before the end of the month Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Lepile
Attention ALL,
Come the next national elections and Motlanthe or Zuma's crew wins and its payback time for pushing me through this tiny hole. Remember now that their voters are 50/50, therefor you need to reward them handsomely for them to recruit more members and retain you Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
cornelius
@dopla1967
Even as an anti - ANC voter, I would accept quite gladly the leadership you suggest. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
MAKIZE
Mashatile and others will learn in a hard way as what politics is, second term for Msholozi will make sure that the " Alex Mafia " is put to rest for good. Zuma has been into politics all his life while they were busy with spaza shops in Alex. Come Magaung , we will be ready to bury Phosas, Tokyos and Mbaks political careers to the deepest hole. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Lepile
dopla1967
To all ANC Province & Branches please nominate the following leaders for the ANC
President : Cyril Ramaphosa
Deputy President : Nkosazana Dlamini Zuma/ Gill Marcus
Secretary General : Joel Netitshendze
Deputy Secretary General : Zwelinzima Vavi
Treasurer : Trevor Manuel
Chairman : Naledi Pandor
ANC is not about factionalism or trebalism but is about the upliftment of south african society from poverty, unemployment and the respect of the constitution. To achieve this please nominate the above leadership in the coming Manguang Conference in December
To me this resembles libia. Why do some people here retain their sit for good and employed forever? Remember, the reason why people retain a president has to do with retaining their position despite the fact that they are not the president.
We have many bo Trevor and Kunfu Pandor in the ANC why don’t they get a chance. ANC IS NOT A CARRIER CONER.
President - Kgalema Motlanthe
Deputy President - Nkosazana Dlamimi-Zuma/ Cyril Ramaphosa
Secretary general - Joel Nethitshenzhe
Deputy Secretary - Fikile Mbalula
Chairperson - Thandi Modise/ Zweli Mkhize
Treasurer general - Mathews Phosa
I do have respect for the leaders such as Gwede, Mashatile, Zuma but for now I don't think they are fit to be in top six.
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Oct 9, 2012
Thespear
Eish Flemza!! Labantu, How does Malema has to do with the decision, to remove Zuma, it was known since last year that Limpopo does not want Zuma, hence the decision to embarass Mathale two weeks before the congress, by putting 5 department under administration, so, wether Malema is there or not is not an issue, nor a problem, people who hate Malema seem to forget that Malema 's power is or was in the ANCYL not ANC, but he can nfluence the ANC both provincial and Nationally, just as any provencial leader may try to do so, i.e Mashatile, or Mkhize in KZN,only fools believe Malema 's word is final, it can never be, not in the ANC, Malema even if he is a member he can only vote once. In short Limpopo has a right to influence the ANC, just as Gauteng and Mpumalanga has already done, now thats what we call democracy, and it has nothing to do with Malema, voting against Zuma should not be seen as merely a support of Malema as that will be distorting the truth, the ANC is not all about Malema. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Lepile
The ANC should on their agenda slot an item on Intellectuals that they can use to lead/connect them to the growing numbers of intellectuals. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
SharpSharp
Limpopo always lead in terms of nominating ANC leadership.......Who ever nominated by Limpopo always win no debate Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Lepile
09 Oct 2012Matso
My wish list for ANC candidates are as follows:
President - Kgalema Motlanthe
Deputy President - Nkosazana Dlamimi-Zuma/ Cyril Ramaphosa
Secretary general - Joel Nethitshenzhe
Deputy Secretary - Fikile Mbalula
Chairperson - Thandi Modise/ Zweli Mkhize
Treasurer general - Mathews Phosa
I do have respect for the leaders such as Gwede, Mashatile, Zuma but for now I don't think they are fit to be in top six.
Our problem is that we rely too much on old people who are not active to run the party and the country. I tend to agree with Youth League on issue of generational mix, we need young and active blood in the movement
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I have this believe that a number of you mention names that are popular on TV and newspapers, media in general. We have many good young educated names that outrun far the names we see and here on media.
Please learn more about ANC cadres
I have this believe that a number of you mention names that are popular on TV and newspapers, media in general. We have many good young educated names that outrun far the names we see and here on media.
Please learn more about ANC cadres
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I tend to agree with you that there are many capable young generation to lead us. On the list, I have only mentioned possible candidates that are on the people's mind right now but I have a lists of capable leader that can make more than five candidates lists.
They may be in media for good reason, as people we always have different viewing of things. Don't get hurt if my wish list differ with yours. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Aouuti
Aouuti
Zuma/Motlhante same same whats the fuss? Answer (JUJU ) Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
dopla1967
People must suggest names rather than criticising names of others at the end will reconcile and come up with good names that we think they can save the ANC from sinking. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Thespear
Matso: Since Cyril failed to buy his ox on auction, he seems to believe he must try some luck in politicks, unfortunatley, I see no difference between Cyril and JZ, they all seem to believe the youth need to be silenced,, so, I will not waste my energy on such kind of a business man whom we thought he will be independednt, but I guess his ambitions of becoming a precedent, has resurfaced since the departure of Mbeki, the person he feared with all his veins, now that he believes he has done JZ a favor by agreing to his overemnt ministers Kangaroo court, he believes, he is pay back time, and Msholozi indeed as always, willing to impress the former union leader come mine owner, by promising him that you rub my back I rub yours, well let's see if his name will make it in the ANC after Mangaung, all I can say, is that Cyril is not a fighter, is a coward, and a classic example of a sell out. Let him keep his billions, and let us keep our ANC, anyway, he failed to save the ANC by directing the Malema case to a logical conclusion as an independent democrat but I guess, JZ knew this guy's ambitions, and played well in his dreams, and destroy what ever credit the poor guy had since he runaway from Mbeki, so please Matso I like your list but this name Cyril, is real good for business not politics.. Report Abuse
Mzabalazo
That is why I love ANC they move on with all the baggage to replace a baggage, Mathale for all people, this proves what kind of recycled leadership the mighty ANC has. replace a crook with gentleman sorrounded by irresponsible crooks, it's like saying I am tired of eating pap with potatoes and I would rather eat potatoes with pap, sounds the same to me except that the other plate is dominated with pap and the other with potatoes, but it's all carbs anyway. This is the kind of change we might get from 2300 delegates in Mangaung
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4500 delegates not 2300. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
willy#proudlypedi
@DJ WINNER
well statistically zuma is out,yet motlante is also not assured of the presideny
The fact that hes a zulu doesnt count,beside how does it count? motlante is being backed by limpopo,gauteng,eastern cape,freestate n etc........zuma is fighting a lost fight.................................... Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
SharpSharp
Count provinces we will count ppl.......... Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Lord-Have-Mercy
@DJ WINNER
well statistically zuma is out,yet motlante is also not assured of the presideny
The fact that hes a zulu doesnt count,beside how does it count? motlante is being backed by limpopo,gauteng,eastern cape,freestate n etc........zuma is fighting a lost fight....................................
Malema said J Zuma will be removed frm the ANC Presidency in 16 Dec in Mangaung the next day he will be charged, the following day be recalled..... I am counting days count provinces.... Report Abuse
Clearly people don't get it... Both Zuma & Mothlate are the same as the deputy of the country why are you so quiet when the country is an mess... Zuma should serve the secand term hoping that he will learn from his mistakes.
Now Croooks are finally going to meet in Mangaung you only buy votes and win money money money talks Baba even Moses bribed the egyptians ngwakong wa bohlanka to gain passage and disspeared into thin air with his people Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Dzel
The thinking with the ANC rank and file is symptomatic of just how deep-rooted the challenges the party faces are. Once the ANC was a party of the educated and most intelligent within our communities. They understood that a black man had to stand up and fight for his rights; it was about the people and the nation, not self-serving leaders.
Today any Tom, Sipho and Themba is a member and they think they understand politics but they don't. It would not come as a surprise should Zuma win; if anything I expect no less.
What is important for all us who have the interests of the country at heart to remember is that the rank and file does not have the final say no ma.tter what they think. Let them sing and throw chairs at Mangaung for all they like but come 2014 we need to be heard.
For some of us voting for the enemy will be a painful exercise but sometimes it makes sense to join the enemy in pursuit of a common goal. With all the faults the DA has one cannot argue they have the interests of the country at heart, how many of us can say the same about the ANC?
I have made peace with the fact that I will be going to bed with the DA but rather that than watch my beloved country burn, my country and our people are more important to me than anything I have against the DA; I never thought I would be saying this but sometimes one has to be realistic and admit when things have gone so wrong one is left with no option.
I trust I am not alone in putting the interest of the country first. Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Dzel
For some of us voting for the enemy will be a painful exercise but sometimes it makes sense to join the enemy in pursuit of a common goal. With all the faults the DA has one cannot argue they (don't) have the interests of the country at heart, how many of us can say the same about the ANC? Report Abuse
Oct 9, 2012
Nyongoyamavenda
@Dzel
Sowetan is always lazy let me bring the latest news Motlante has never been there how can you Surport Juju and hope people will take you serious
The ANC in the Eastern Cape said on Tuesday it wants President Jacob Zuma to lead the party for another term.
News from EC below
"We are for continuity with change," spokesman Mlibo Qoboshiyane said.
The provincial party favoured Kgalema Motlanthe to stay on for another term as African National Congress deputy president.
"But if he is standing as president, we are prepared to agree Report Abuse
Oct 10, 2012
GigiMavalani
I am ifrom Limpopo, I am not a supporter of both Montlathe and Julius Malema. Limpopo is very much divided, for fear of victimisation by Julius we will act as if we are united but in Mangaung we will be divided. I am going to Mangaung to vote Jacob Zuma. Report Abuse
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munhu
They have left Robert Mugabe in the top six? They should get serious!Report Abuse
warry
If Malema can tell the Limpopo PEC to do. 360 degree turn, they will do it without thinking. Good luck guys, but seems as if he will get the beating if he stands.Report Abuse
Stumtum
It comes as no suprise their nomination is so weak except for Kgalema but he too must be for deputy president for now his term is coming.Report Abuse
Seja-Bana
this is goinfg to be interestingReport Abuse
Mzabalazo
That is why I love ANC they move on with all the baggage to replace a baggage, Mathale for all people, this proves what kind of recycled leadership the mighty ANC has. replace a crook with gentleman sorrounded by irresponsible crooks, it's like saying I am tired of eating pap with potatoes and I would rather eat potatoes with pap, sounds the same to me except that the other plate is dominated with pap and the other with potatoes, but it's all carbs anyway. This is the kind of change we might get from 2300 delegates in MangaungReport Abuse
warry
Atleast you noted Malema is out. No mentioning of his name.Report Abuse
MommaC
Mathale is treading on thin ice. His only 'get out of jail' card is in his hands now. He had best be very careful which table he plays it at.Whilst interesting, it is quite irrelevant as the horse-trading has already started and, by the time they get to Mangaung it will be a formality
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Lord-Have-Mercy
THIS IS MALEMA'S WINNING TEAMMotlante will never win as a Anc Pre against anc Prs Zuma
Tokyo mos def wont win as a Dep pres -------vs Cyril Ramaphosa
Mathew Phosa will loose his current position
Fikile Mabalula cant beat Gwede as secretary General( most mangaung deligates will vote him)
poor Limpopians, Malema is not going down alone but with his Camp
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on the other GP's hand
Paul Mashatile is a loose cannon too
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DJ-Winner
Well, Zuma has won, ladies and gentlemen. KZN, Women's league and Mpumalanga are good enough. The next province will just be a bonus...I told you people, I told you...
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Hail
Let say he win @ Mangaung but will he win the national votes because not only delegates will be voting. Giving it to DA on the silver platter, will he able to forgive himself for that?Report Abuse
KeRataBasadi
Sadly, it makes no difference, just vote for a different party, if not to take the excessive power away from the looters then atleast do it for your conscience.Report Abuse
cornelius
@ DJWinner - you are happy to have another 6 yrs of being led by a bumbling dancing and singing fool, who cannot even read his speeches properly, will probably marry another 6 wives, abuses taxpayers money to ensure luxury for himself while the rest of the country is writhing in poverty and fear ? You must have your brain transplanted.Report Abuse
Hail
What happen to Women "s league? Where are those powerfull women that used to stand for what is right than taking anything that is thrown to them for the sake of the positions at the parlament.No wonder he (president) did not take steps towards the motsh*kga about the limpopo book saga, he is keeping her for the votes of the women 's league. Mara le bona basadi ba cannot think for themselves?Report Abuse
DJ-Winner
cornelius@ DJWinner - you are happy to have another 6 yrs of being led by a bumbling dancing and singing fool, who cannot even read his speeches properly, will probably marry another 6 wives, abuses taxpayers money to ensure luxury for himself while the rest of the country is writhing in poverty and fear ? You must have your brain transplanted.
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I don't know where does all this anger comes from now. It is not a crime to dance and sing. Zuma is not the only President doing this. Newly elected President of Venezuela is doing the same. I think Zuma is reading properly. I understand him, South Africans do. This is not England, I would be annoyed if Zuma was failing to express himself in his home language (Zulu).
Well, culture allows Zuma to get married. You cannot challenge Zuma and fail to challenge culture at the same time. You are not making sense. Ban the culture, then we will understand.
South Africans are not living in povery. We the only country that offers grants in Africa. Look, we don't support unnecessary spending. I will not comment on his house yet until I get all the relevant information.
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ngwanamaganagobotswa
Makhuduthamaga - Sekhukhune region where Masemola comes from nominated Zuma as President. Makhuduthamaga is influencial sub-region in Sekhukhune, the other region like Tubatse is full of bo-comrades mafikizolo, opportunists and careerist that they will not decide on themselves, they are waitng for Malema like the PEC because they are one that was deployed by him, e.g Mayor and Manucipal manager and the rest of directors at Tubatse Manucipality with taeching Diplomas. Most of them are chairpersons and secretaries of the branches and permanents delegates and members member e.g Mathale and Malema. Waterberg nominate Zuma.Soviet is afraid of Masemola, he said all the PEC members will voter according to thir wish list and they fool some by saying that they will be NEC members e.g Thabitha Mohlala, who is she in the struggle of the ANC?
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msizi
Guys please, lets not forget that Motlanthe is also ANC, if he becomes President i don't see how he will change things, chances are he will be just as corrupt and just as incompetent and money-hungry like all the other former ANC leaders except Mandela . I think we need a new political party to lead us, switching Presidents within the same party is a futile exercise, same sh.t different guy. Incompetence and looting runs in the ANC's veins, nobody within the ANC is immune to this sickness so stop fooling yourselves my people. Cry the once beloved country :(Report Abuse
warry
@ Hail, can limpopo people think for themselves and independently of Malema. I mean the boy is tender rich and he is fraud rich and corruption rich and still let the poor dudes singing for him. I saw another Thandiwe Mandela a certain white lady telling the nation about malema's ascendancy to Presidency of the nation and said haaaaaawwwwuuuuu Malema is dating old white women now. Atleast democracy works wonders in limpopo. Don't worry as a province you may vote for DA then they will lock Mathale in jail. This time won't be Zuma, it will be DA and they know their story those ones. Go vote for DA then get your Dalai Kamas locked in jail for a long time.Report Abuse
sh!tFaceSamsung
msholozi ur days are numbered : can't wait for mangaung : yipeee!Report Abuse
Seja-Bana
THE MANGAUNG RACE HAS STARTED, WHO WILL FINISH ON A HIGH?Report Abuse
DJ-Winner
Can Mothlante speak? This guy is painfully shy...Report Abuse
RobinH
Do we really need a daily blow by blow account of this absurd internal issue? They're all very dubious in any case so in my view it makes little difference which blind sheep will lead the blinder flock.Report Abuse
overthemoon
DJ WinnerKZN is not guranteed since some want Bheki Cele as the Pres. So Zuma can't safely say that KZN is his. The province is divided, he only got half the support. and me as anti Zuma I am happy.
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overthemoonDJ Winner
KZN is not guranteed since some want Bheki Cele as the Pres. So Zuma can't safely say that KZN is his. The province is divided, he only got half the support. and me as anti Zuma I am happy.
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Clearly you don't know how Zulus operate. Did you know that even IFP supporters voted for ANC in 2009 just because of Zuma? Well, I don't support tribalism, but there is nothing we can do. I don't see Zulus voting for Mothlante over Zuma to be honest. This is wrong ofcourse if we look at it in terms of tribalism...but it is the reality of the situation that we are face with. We can hope we will change the mindset of people in the future...
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warry
Hahahaha Bheki Celebration for President? We know Bheki goes with the anti Zuma camp but they will loose and he will find himself in the cold and the wife will divorce him and get mad.Report Abuse
Shredder
@DJ-WinnerWell, Zuma has won, ladies and gentlemen.
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I wonder why do love that man who is tearing the country apart.
@Mzabalazo - You are so spot on dear.
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Tikoloshe
Hihihi, what a joke this motley bunch of thieves, sharletons and incompents are....are these Pedi's really serious or is this a joke Sowtean????Surprised they left Madikizela off as Deputy President.......
Mangaung is going to be like stealing monies from Limps Govt....very very easy. We going to Mangaung to plan third term for JZ with Cyril as our Deputy President!!!
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CharlesTaylor
No one supports Bheki Cele here in KZN, those were unfounded rumors from anti-Zuma campaigners. Yes there are those few who promotes leadership change, but they are quiet because they see that it is an unattainable battle.KZN will go to Mangaung 100% behind Zuma, we have been attending Branches meetings and we are determined to retain the current leadership and also change the ANCYL leadership after Mangaung. Lamola's of this world must rest assured that their time is near. We want to restore dignity to our ANCYL.
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mokudubete
@MZISI,you are rite,i don't see why people should be happy about change in leadership,the party is still the same,policies and alliances stays the same.Report Abuse
DA-DBN-GUY
CharlesTaylor'We want to restore dignity to our ANCYL."
This wont happen in our lifetime
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KeRataBasadi
@ DJ-Winner"Clearly you don't know how Zulus operate. Did you know that even IFP supporters voted for ANC in 2009 just because of Zuma?"
Judging from the above statement Zulu's are an enigma but the one thing I can deduce from this is that the IFP have shape shifted into the ANC.
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thinya
These people are using ntate Motlanthe as their stepladder because he is too soft, not long he will be replaced by Juju boy.Report Abuse
masende
AWULETHE UMSHINI WAMI WEBABA.......MSHINI WAMI ....MSHINI WAMI! KHONA ABAZOPHOXEKA. VIVA JZ VIVAReport Abuse
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RobinH
Mzabalazo: Once again a wonderfully astute observation.Shredder, Mzabalazo is one sharp cookie. I am developing major respect for her.
Have a great day, both of you, my friends.
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Vantyi
With Zuma in charge the country is performing very well, he stands up 4 ppl, every1 is happy with him, there are no strikes, the economy is @ its highest level. So Zuma supperters do u really believe in that.Report Abuse
DJ-Winner
Shredder@DJ-Winner
Well, Zuma has won, ladies and gentlemen.
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I wonder why do love that man who is tearing the country apart.
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Well, I love women not guys. Zuma has not teared country apart. Infact, he has saved it from Julius and friends of Malema...
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Lehido
I say Zuma must go, ans Cassel Mathale tooReport Abuse
Charley4sure
CharlesTaylorNo one supports Bheki Cele here in KZN, those were unfounded rumors from anti-Zuma campaigners. Yes there are those few who promotes leadership change, but they are quiet because they see that it is an unattainable battle.
KZN will go to Mangaung 100% behind Zuma, we have been attending Branches meetings and we are determined to retain the current leadership and also change the ANCYL leadership after Mangaung. Lamola's of this world must rest assured that their time is near. We want to restore dignity to our ANCYL.
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In your dreams. This is not IFP, you won’t change the leadership of the ANCYL.
There are procedures to be followed, there is the constitution of the ANC and
the ANCYL . Keep dreaming, the leadership of the ANCYL will only change is
2014. Chief that is daylight dreaming, please stop misleading people. On what
what basis will you change the leadership of the ANCYL? Based on which
principles will you try to change the leadership of the ANCYL? The leadership
of the ANCYL will not change in our life time and we will fight to the end to
defend the ANCYL. You can fool those elders, not the youth of this country.
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msizi
I cannot believe some of you bloggers are happy about Mangaung, after all the bullsh.t that the ANC has done , i thought our leaders are blind but now i realize our society is even blinder (& i don't meant that in the kasi sense of being hot)Report Abuse
cocolucho
@All except djwinnerGood people please ignore the rantings and ravings of this dj,the container that his brain is in has been contaminated due to a piercing by a spear that has left some spillage in his brain, not to worry though if he takes a shower he may be able to get rid of the liquids contaminating his brain.
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DJ-Winner
cocolucho@All except djwinner
Good people please ignore the rantings and ravings of this dj,the container that his brain is in has been contaminated due to a piercing by a spear that has left some spillage in his brain, not to worry though if he takes a shower he may be able to get rid of the liquids contaminating his brain
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Same joke is not funny twice. You made this joke yesterday....
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cocolucho
@djwinnerIts not a joke, please for your sake take a brain shower
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warry
Motlhanthe knows what crooks supports him.Report Abuse
DJ-Winner
cocolucho@djwinner
Its not a joke, please for your sake take a brain shower
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I agree you tried to tell a joke that is not very funny..
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Tsar-Rasputin
In terms of the available information Gauteng, EC, WC, Limpopo , Northen Cape , ANC Youth league seems to be supporting Kgalema. Is this sufficient to challenge the President?Report Abuse
DJ-Winner
Sowetan is taking sides. It is blocking comments under Zuma article...Report Abuse
Phathuza
They must remove mbalulas name from that list, His dept is misusing tax payers moneyReport Abuse
MmaSeshego
warry@ Hail, can limpopo people think for themselves and independently of Malema.
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Some of us still can, do and not even for a moment support the shenanigans happening in our beloved province
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Lord-Have-Mercy
Some people forgerttha that Zuma is not alone in the Govt also there is Motlante and othersReport Abuse
xikosi
Should Zuma win in MANGAUNG<<< I foresee danger for Mathale and his PECReport Abuse
Toivo
In the run-up to the Polokwane conference in 2007, numbers were used to fool the faction supporting Thabo Mbeki into believing it would win. As branches nominated candidates, text messages flew across the country. Here is one of them:"Comrades please receive the synopsis on the trends of bgm's (branch general meetings) across the various provinces. These numbers were valid as of Wednesday night & we are yet to update the analysis with bgm outcomes of Thursday & tonight. 1. In the E CAPE of the 258 bgms that have quorated 200 nominated TM & 58 JZ. 2. In Limpopo of the 135 bgms that have quorated 96 nominated TM & 39 JZ. 3. In N WEST of the 130 bgms that have quorated 116 nominated TM & 14 JZ. 4. In W CAPE of the 115 bgms that quorated 107 nominated TM & 7 JZ & 1 TOKYO. 5. In N CAPE of the 17 bgms 6 nominated TM & 11 JZ (it is instructive to note that 3 of our strongest regions Francis Baard, Siyanda & Namaqua are yet to start with bgms). 6. FS we r awaiting final tallies. 7. GAUTENG has just started but will monitor its progress. 8. Mpumalanga we are awaiting final tallies but not looking good. 9. KZN awaiting final tallies but not looking good."
As you can see, the Mbeki faction believed it was ahead. History shows that the numbers lied to them. This should be a lesson to those who support Zuma for a second term today. Many of them are smug and believe they have already won. They need to remember that many provinces and structures of the party say they support Zuma, but in places like Gauteng delegates are already saying they will not be dictated to when they arrive in Mangaung. It is, after all, a secret ballot.
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SetlaboswanaBoy07
The branches have not yet nominated their line up-I am puzzled, in essence branches should be first to nominate the leaders they want, it is other way round,
Anyway that's South African Politics
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CharlesTaylor
Charley4sureYou should be knowing the reason of postponing the Elective Conference of ANCYL that was suppose to be held in September. The current leadership was afraid that they may loose their positions and fail to continue with their anti-Zuma campaign. The Conference was then postponed to after Mangaung. Still then, the current ANCYL leaders will be removed, by the real ANCYL. watch this space!
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CharlesTaylor
Charley4sureAfter suspension of Malema and co, there was a need to replace them, Lamola is not the president and after Mangaung ANCYL will elect the real leaders.
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Pointman
When idiots start voting, you just stand by and shudder or despair or weep. Such is the nature of democracy. When dangerous idiots start voting - then hope is gone.Report Abuse
snazz
POLOTRICKS...................................Report Abuse
Charley4sure
CharlesTaylorWhich ANCYL you are referring to? which province? because the only ANCYL which is againts
the current leadership is KZN and they do not have much influence on other provinces.
The ANCYL in EC, Gauteng, LP, MP, WC, NC, NC, NW are anti-Zuma, expect for Pule Mabe.
We know that YCL are pro-Zuma, no one can blame them or take them serious, they are a bunch of
clueless communist, just like Blade. Please be specific enough comrade.
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Charley4sure
CharlesTaylorThe ANCYL NEC will decide whether to vote for leadership of the ANCYL or not. But the ANC will
never ever decide the leadership of the ANCYL don't get it twisted, whether you agree with them or
not.
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MAKIZE
Limpopo thinks Malema is our god like them. If they think Malema its best thing ever happened some of us dont think so. Magaung is around the corner if Kgalema is elected as Pres will have no problem and we will respect the siiting Pres in Kgalima.But goodluck to himReport Abuse
Sipho2001
Anc voters are like a football coach that keeps picking his son as captain even though everyone knows the kid is a hopeless player. They lose every game and everyone gets depressed yet everytime without fail he will keep picking his son.Eventually the team gets relegated to the 10th division but the coach just can't seem to see what the problem is and he just keeps picking his favourite as captain.
All the other players and people watching tell the coach the problem but he is just to stubborn to change his mind.... South Africa is now playing in the 10th division. Thanks to those stubborn voters.
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CharlesTaylor
Charley4sureDictatorship - some province's PEC's were disbanded because they were against the current NEC. Come post Mangaung when Julias and his crooks will be silenced forever, then you will see evolution in the ANCYL.
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CharlesTaylor
Sipho2001No no no, don't involve Jomo Sono in politics!!!
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Charley4sure
CharlesTaylorYou do not just wake up in the morning and decide the ANCYL must change. There are processes,
there are procedures to follow. Even if Zuma wins in Mangaung, he will not decide the leadership of the
young lions of OR Tambo, Walter Sisulu, Nelson Mandela, Peter Mokaba, Fikile Mbalula and
Julius Malema. Which part of constitution will the ANC site to change the leadership of the ANCYL?
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Little_Dude
overthemoonDJ Winner
KZN is not guranteed since some want Bheki Cele as the Pres. So Zuma can't safely say that KZN is his. The province is divided, he only got half the support. and me as anti Zuma I am happy
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Where are you getting your facts from young lady? Strong support for ZUMA is mainly from KZN.
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MissBhakajuju
Kgalema Motlanthe my President !!!!!Report Abuse
Nyongoyamavenda
Motlante is neither trustworthy nor dangerous thats where the problem is, i stil.have to hear a good reason from him why he believ Juju shouldnt hv been fired, does he mean the ANC disciplinary processes are so useless and lack credibilityReport Abuse
Flemza
I`m not suprised , what does limpopo know about politics any way except just to be a yes boy to Malema, no wonder I`m not from that useless province , thanks God I`m not assosciated with this provinceReport Abuse
mokudubete
@all,i have a question,what is our problem in our govt,is it the party or the individual elected within the party,or policies applied by the ruling party,if the answer is yes to all those questions,the solution is not the change of leadership to the ruling party,but rather go for another party with new system of doing things,beccause retaining the presnt party just bringing somebody new from the very same party i don't see how is that going to turn things around.Report Abuse
Mphorozza
Fikile is not yet ready to be the GS I think if they can suggest Joel Netshiteze it will be a very strong side to comp[ete the shower.Report Abuse
Thespear
Well said Toivo: It is becoming clear that people don't understand the happennings in the ANC, I bet on the name of Harry Gwala that Kwazulu Natal will not be 100% behind JZ, that is highly impossible in the ANC, maybe in the IFP, the same applies to Mpumalanga and Free State, it is the media's wish, but in principle, it's not possible, remember that even Mbeki fans then, indicated that EC was the largest when it comes to numbers, and they will all vote against Zuma, it b=never happenned, lastley due to political killings in KZN, it might be possible to intimidate branches but come Mangaung those chains will be removed as we will be talking of secret ballot, those in KZN, should remember that you come to power through the sword you will be removed through the sword....Report Abuse
Moffdat
FlemzaWhich province are you from?
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Stimela
DJ-WinnerWell, Zuma has won, ladies and gentlemen. KZN, Women's league and Mpumalanga are good enough. The next province will just be a bonus...
I told you people, I told you...
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remember there is still Free state behind Zuma, if i was Motlathe i would decline the nomination to avoid humiliation.
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Thespear
Charlie taylor sound like a jonny come late in the ANC, the problem with this new comrades they join yesterday and they claim they know the movement by reading news papers report, any young man worth of being called a revolutionary in the ANC, knows for a fact that, the ANCYL is autonomous, only those who joined after 2007, has a different view and unfortunatley narrow view.For the first time in the history of the ANC did the mother body interviened by firing a president of its youth leaque, instead of choosing political discource, now, that is the start of dictatorsip, but the youth of all provinces has seen through this, and refused to budge, which let to those in goverment using their power to buy loyalty in the form of Manana and Mabe, but it is clear the youth are not budging, and I support their stand for it is not only correct but a principle stand, which proves that we stillhave young lions out there who are more principled than leaders who have been in the movement for more than 35 years, that why the ANC will never dissapear...
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Stimela
overthemoonDJ Winner
KZN is not guranteed since some want Bheki Cele as the Pres. So Zuma can't safely say that KZN is his. The province is divided, he only got half the support. and me as anti Zuma I am happy.
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you are mistaken my dear, KZN branches nominated Bheki Cele for an NEC position not President,
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Moffdat
This country cannot take another five years of Zuma!Report Abuse
Djembe
Limpompo is one province that is not thinking straight since the malema saga. Their choice is not based on intergrity instead they are driven by anger. Mangaung has become a comedy it has lost the meaning. The whole thing is not about ANC s ideologies anymore it is about indivisuals and love and hate drama. This kind of behaviour has made our continent become the poorest in the world and unfortunately cmrds like Sexwale, Phosa, Mashatile, Mbalula, Modise and many others don't realise the grave they are digging for the ANC. The same people are also leaving extravagantly in the porchest surbubs at the taxpayers money they are all up there and yet people are still drinking dirty water while the buy bottled water common guys 'who is fooling who' with anc needs change? The same people talking about change want to keep their positions or climb higher on the ladder. Recently Mashatile, Phahla and Xaba hosted Social Cohesion thousands or millions of taxpayers money again spent where are the result what did we get out of it? As far as I am concern nothing is what we mean about new leadership? I can't believe that such educated men and women never learn so cmrds continue to kill our party and our country. ANC needs Zuma and Zuma needs ANC if Msholozi goes he will go with a huge percentage of supporters and this will be the end of the road for ANC. You can never have two (surnames) families in one family especially us Africans. Quote from Shaka ka Senzangakhona "Ngenke nilibuse liyobuswa ondlebe zikhanyilanga"Report Abuse
Lord-Have-Mercy
Malema and his crew + his followers are screwed, Mangaung Pres is for JZ,Deputy is either Motlante or Cyril
Bad campaingn and failed campaign from the youth league.
ANC is not for mofies.
Can the Youth league have Media conference, i wish to hear what are they now going to say
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Malema now foresee the direction of the pot full of gravy. his "new strategy card" is that
in Dec or next month, Malema will praise Jacob Zuma's leadership as a President and Motlante's leadership as a Deputy President
All Malema followers will be left stranded and confused
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Djembe
Comrades forget this change business people want service delivery, health care, proper schools, jobs and of course economy empowerment finish. Even Obama shouted Change we need , yes we can but for the last four years for the poor man US is still the same.Change is not what we need, people of Emzantsi need the above mentioned. Mbaks and Mashatile must also declare their status as playboys at least Msholozi is open about it.
Performance is the key to our problems not thi talk, talk. We are tired of big talkers but no service delivery.
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midastouch
The movement is dead!! only idiots and jokers scrambling for power and money!! what happened to a better life for all? ANIMAL FARM!!!!!Report Abuse
dopla1967
To all ANC Province & Branches please nominate the following leaders for the ANCPresident : Cyril Ramaphosa
Deputy President : Nkosazana Dlamini Zuma/ Gill Marcus
Secretary General : Joel Netitshendze
Deputy Secretary General : Zwelinzima Vavi
Treasurer : Trevor Manuel
Chairman : Naledi Pandor
ANC is not about factionalism or trebalism but is about the upliftment of south african society from poverty, unemployment and the respect of the constitution. To achieve this please nominate the above leadership in the coming Manguang Conference in December
ANC4Life
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WarrenG
This movement needs new leaders outright. If this guy wins he'll bring back Julius who will help him bring SA to it's knees for good. I gotta find a country that works...cos this one is on a slippery slope, and the slope is getting steeper...Report Abuse
Matso
Motlanthe is the only leader who can bring peace and order in the party. Like Mandela as he rescued white people after apartheid and preach for reconciliation, I think is what Motlanthe intends it to happen in the ANC.Firstly, after Mbeki and Zuma fallout, Mbeki was planning to destroy Zuma political career permanently but Kgalema stand his ground to ensure that power is not used to settle political score. The same thing happen when Zuma is still busy trying to destroy Malema and his opponents in the party, and Kgalema stand his ground again and say this is not how ANC should operate.
Motlanthe is the principled ANC leader, he does not kill his opponents but always open for constructive criticism unlike Blade and Jacob. In Polokwane, no one knows which camp is Motlanthe belongs until supporters of Zuma and Mbeki showed their preferred list of candidates. The Mbeki camp ommitted him from the list as Mbeki was no longer wanting to work with him as he was not his "yes" man, this was also attributed by Mbeki's mother that Kgalema has his own thinking in the media few weeks back. Is then when Kgalema accepted the candidacy from Zuma's list as deputy president of the party.
He is one of the only few ANC leader (i.e. Zola Skweyiya, Joel Netitshenzhe, Pallo Jordan) who always reprimanded Malema and show him the way but Zuma and Malema were once regarded him as their enemy before their comradeship ends.
He doesn't believe in those who use their political power to settle political scores.
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Nkweshengg
@FlemzaI`m not suprised , what does limpopo know about politics any way except just to be a yes boy to Malema, no wonder I`m not from that useless province , thanks God I`m not assosciated with this province
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You are generalizing here. Not all people in Limpopo support Malema and his shallow Zim ideas.
When you ask what Limpopo knows about politics,I will tel you what Limpopo knows about politics:
Limpopo knows that you dont have to be a murderer who goes on a killing spree of political opponents like your murderous province everytime there are political contests.
Thats what Limpopo knows about politics. O nkwele wena senwamadi a batho?
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Djembe
@dopla1967To all ANC Province & Branches please nominate the following leaders for the ANC
President : Cyril Ramaphosa
Deputy President : Nkosazana Dlamini Zuma/ Gill Marcus
Secretary General : Joel Netitshendze
Deputy Secretary General : Zwelinzima Vavi
Treasurer : Trevor Manuel
Chairman : Naledi Pandor
ANC is not about factionalism or trebalism but is about the upliftment of south african society from poverty, unemployment and the respect of the constitution. To achieve this please nominate the above leadership in the coming Manguang Conference in December
ANC4Life
There is no better way to suggest change well said "We need people like you to save our beloved country" This is what I call CHANGE of LEADERSHIP. Respect dopla1967
Mothlante is still Malema s man. Mbaks and Mashatile just want to stay on top and enrich themselves further.
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Matso
FlemzaI`m not suprised , what does limpopo know about politics any way except just to be a yes boy to Malema, no wonder I`m not from that useless province , thanks God I`m not assosciated with this province
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The charges against Malema were inflicted by those who were seeing him as block to step the ladder like Zuma and Ramaphosa. Their fight against Mbeki turned them blind so that they don't see bad or wrong but they are only concebtrating on either you are with us or against us. They get mad when Malema mentioned that Mbeki was best ANC leader have ever produced while they regard themselves as better leaders than Mbeki. Remember that Ramaphosa was knocked out of ANC by Mbeki and Zuma while in turn Zuma knocked out Mbeki. So the common enemy for this two is Mbeki, to mention his name and his leadership as the best in ANC after OR Tambo and Mandela hurts other a lot.
Zuma and Ramaphosa don't want to hear or see this man's name, they get angry (e.g. In centenary celebration, Zuma didn't want to attend the same gala dinner/ fundraising with Mbeki. Before Polokwane elective conference, Ramaphosa said he won't contest the election of ANC as long as Mbeki is still there).
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DA-DBN-GUY
WarrenGThis movement needs new leaders outright. If this guy wins he'll bring back Julius who will help him bring SA to it's knees for good. I gotta find a country that works...cos this one is on a slippery slope, and the slope is getting steeper...
Already found such a country and will be in it before the end of the month
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Lepile
Attention ALL,Come the next national elections and Motlanthe or Zuma's crew wins and its payback time for pushing me through this tiny hole. Remember now that their voters are 50/50, therefor you need to reward them handsomely for them to recruit more members and retain you
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cornelius
@dopla1967Even as an anti - ANC voter, I would accept quite gladly the leadership you suggest.
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MAKIZE
Mashatile and others will learn in a hard way as what politics is, second term for Msholozi will make sure that the " Alex Mafia " is put to rest for good. Zuma has been into politics all his life while they were busy with spaza shops in Alex. Come Magaung , we will be ready to bury Phosas, Tokyos and Mbaks political careers to the deepest hole.Report Abuse
Lepile
dopla1967To all ANC Province & Branches please nominate the following leaders for the ANC
President : Cyril Ramaphosa
Deputy President : Nkosazana Dlamini Zuma/ Gill Marcus
Secretary General : Joel Netitshendze
Deputy Secretary General : Zwelinzima Vavi
Treasurer : Trevor Manuel
Chairman : Naledi Pandor
ANC is not about factionalism or trebalism but is about the upliftment of south african society from poverty, unemployment and the respect of the constitution. To achieve this please nominate the above leadership in the coming Manguang Conference in December
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dopla
To me this resembles libia. Why do some people here retain their sit for good and employed forever? Remember, the reason why people retain a president has to do with retaining their position despite the fact that they are not the president.
We have many bo Trevor and Kunfu Pandor in the ANC why don’t they get a chance. ANC IS NOT A CARRIER CONER.
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Matso
My wish list for ANC candidates are as follows:President - Kgalema Motlanthe
Deputy President - Nkosazana Dlamimi-Zuma/ Cyril Ramaphosa
Secretary general - Joel Nethitshenzhe
Deputy Secretary - Fikile Mbalula
Chairperson - Thandi Modise/ Zweli Mkhize
Treasurer general - Mathews Phosa
I do have respect for the leaders such as Gwede, Mashatile, Zuma but for now I don't think they are fit to be in top six.
Our problem is that we rely too much on old people who are not active to run the party and the country. I tend to agree with Youth League on issue of generational mix, we need young and active blood in the movement
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Thespear
Eish Flemza!! Labantu, How does Malema has to do with the decision, to remove Zuma, it was known since last year that Limpopo does not want Zuma, hence the decision to embarass Mathale two weeks before the congress, by putting 5 department under administration, so, wether Malema is there or not is not an issue, nor a problem, people who hate Malema seem to forget that Malema 's power is or was in the ANCYL not ANC, but he can nfluence the ANC both provincial and Nationally, just as any provencial leader may try to do so, i.e Mashatile, or Mkhize in KZN,only fools believe Malema 's word is final, it can never be, not in the ANC, Malema even if he is a member he can only vote once. In short Limpopo has a right to influence the ANC, just as Gauteng and Mpumalanga has already done, now thats what we call democracy, and it has nothing to do with Malema, voting against Zuma should not be seen as merely a support of Malema as that will be distorting the truth, the ANC is not all about Malema.Report Abuse
Lepile
The ANC should on their agenda slot an item on Intellectuals that they can use to lead/connect them to the growing numbers of intellectuals.Report Abuse
SharpSharp
Limpopo always lead in terms of nominating ANC leadership.......Who ever nominated by Limpopo always win no debateReport Abuse
Lepile
09 Oct 2012MatsoMy wish list for ANC candidates are as follows:
President - Kgalema Motlanthe
Deputy President - Nkosazana Dlamimi-Zuma/ Cyril Ramaphosa
Secretary general - Joel Nethitshenzhe
Deputy Secretary - Fikile Mbalula
Chairperson - Thandi Modise/ Zweli Mkhize
Treasurer general - Mathews Phosa
I do have respect for the leaders such as Gwede, Mashatile, Zuma but for now I don't think they are fit to be in top six.
Our problem is that we rely too much on old people who are not active to run the party and the country. I tend to agree with Youth League on issue of generational mix, we need young and active blood in the movement
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I have this believe that a number of you mention names that are popular on TV and newspapers, media in general. We have many good young educated names that outrun far the names we see and here on media.
Please learn more about ANC cadres
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Matso
LepileOla Matso
I have this believe that a number of you mention names that are popular on TV and newspapers, media in general. We have many good young educated names that outrun far the names we see and here on media.
Please learn more about ANC cadres
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I tend to agree with you that there are many capable young generation to lead us. On the list, I have only mentioned possible candidates that are on the people's mind right now but I have a lists of capable leader that can make more than five candidates lists.
They may be in media for good reason, as people we always have different viewing of things. Don't get hurt if my wish list differ with yours.
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Aouuti
AouutiZuma/Motlhante same same whats the fuss? Answer (JUJU )
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dopla1967
People must suggest names rather than criticising names of others at the end will reconcile and come up with good names that we think they can save the ANC from sinking.Report Abuse
Thespear
Matso: Since Cyril failed to buy his ox on auction, he seems to believe he must try some luck in politicks, unfortunatley, I see no difference between Cyril and JZ, they all seem to believe the youth need to be silenced,, so, I will not waste my energy on such kind of a business man whom we thought he will be independednt, but I guess his ambitions of becoming a precedent, has resurfaced since the departure of Mbeki, the person he feared with all his veins, now that he believes he has done JZ a favor by agreing to his overemnt ministers Kangaroo court, he believes, he is pay back time, and Msholozi indeed as always, willing to impress the former union leader come mine owner, by promising him that you rub my back I rub yours, well let's see if his name will make it in the ANC after Mangaung, all I can say, is that Cyril is not a fighter, is a coward, and a classic example of a sell out. Let him keep his billions, and let us keep our ANC, anyway, he failed to save the ANC by directing the Malema case to a logical conclusion as an independent democrat but I guess, JZ knew this guy's ambitions, and played well in his dreams, and destroy what ever credit the poor guy had since he runaway from Mbeki, so please Matso I like your list but this name Cyril, is real good for business not politics..Report Abuse
Lord-Have-Mercy
http://www.timeslive.co.za/politics/2012/10/09/eastern-cape-anc-picks-zuma-for-another-termReport Abuse
SEBIKIBIKI
MzabalazoThat is why I love ANC they move on with all the baggage to replace a baggage, Mathale for all people, this proves what kind of recycled leadership the mighty ANC has. replace a crook with gentleman sorrounded by irresponsible crooks, it's like saying I am tired of eating pap with potatoes and I would rather eat potatoes with pap, sounds the same to me except that the other plate is dominated with pap and the other with potatoes, but it's all carbs anyway. This is the kind of change we might get from 2300 delegates in Mangaung
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4500 delegates not 2300.
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willy#proudlypedi
@DJ WINNERwell statistically zuma is out,yet motlante is also not assured of the presideny
The fact that hes a zulu doesnt count,beside how does it count? motlante is being backed by limpopo,gauteng,eastern cape,freestate n etc........zuma is fighting a lost fight....................................
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SharpSharp
Count provinces we will count ppl..........Report Abuse
Lord-Have-Mercy
@DJ WINNERwell statistically zuma is out,yet motlante is also not assured of the presideny
The fact that hes a zulu doesnt count,beside how does it count? motlante is being backed by limpopo,gauteng,eastern cape,freestate n etc........zuma is fighting a lost fight....................................
willy#proudlypedi are you on wooonga medication?
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SharpSharp
Malema said J Zuma will be removed frm the ANC Presidency in 16 Dec in Mangaung the next day he will be charged, the following day be recalled..... I am counting days count provinces....Report Abuse
SHEMAN
Motlanthe For PRESIDENT...Report Abuse
Winilen
Clearly people don't get it... Both Zuma & Mothlate are the same as the deputy of the country why are you so quiet when the country is an mess... Zuma should serve the secand term hoping that he will learn from his mistakes.Report Abuse
Highness
What do you expert from LimpopoensReport Abuse
malemaforpresident
Now Croooks are finally going to meet in Mangaung you only buy votes and win money money money talks Baba even Moses bribed the egyptians ngwakong wa bohlanka to gain passage and disspeared into thin air with his peopleReport Abuse
Dzel
The thinking with the ANC rank and file is symptomatic of just how deep-rooted the challenges the party faces are. Once the ANC was a party of the educated and most intelligent within our communities. They understood that a black man had to stand up and fight for his rights; it was about the people and the nation, not self-serving leaders.Today any Tom, Sipho and Themba is a member and they think they understand politics but they don't. It would not come as a surprise should Zuma win; if anything I expect no less.
What is important for all us who have the interests of the country at heart to remember is that the rank and file does not have the final say no ma.tter what they think. Let them sing and throw chairs at Mangaung for all they like but come 2014 we need to be heard.
For some of us voting for the enemy will be a painful exercise but sometimes it makes sense to join the enemy in pursuit of a common goal. With all the faults the DA has one cannot argue they have the interests of the country at heart, how many of us can say the same about the ANC?
I have made peace with the fact that I will be going to bed with the DA but rather that than watch my beloved country burn, my country and our people are more important to me than anything I have against the DA; I never thought I would be saying this but sometimes one has to be realistic and admit when things have gone so wrong one is left with no option.
I trust I am not alone in putting the interest of the country first.
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Dzel
For some of us voting for the enemy will be a painful exercise but sometimes it makes sense to join the enemy in pursuit of a common goal. With all the faults the DA has one cannot argue they (don't) have the interests of the country at heart, how many of us can say the same about the ANC?Report Abuse
Nyongoyamavenda
@DzelSowetan is always lazy let me bring the latest news Motlante has never been there how can you Surport Juju and hope people will take you serious
The ANC in the Eastern Cape said on Tuesday it wants President Jacob Zuma to lead the party for another term.
News from EC below
"We are for continuity with change," spokesman Mlibo Qoboshiyane said.
The provincial party favoured Kgalema Motlanthe to stay on for another term as African National Congress deputy president.
"But if he is standing as president, we are prepared to agree
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GigiMavalani
I am ifrom Limpopo, I am not a supporter of both Montlathe and Julius Malema. Limpopo is very much divided, for fear of victimisation by Julius we will act as if we are united but in Mangaung we will be divided. I am going to Mangaung to vote Jacob Zuma.Report Abuse
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