Anyone else suddenly have a strong desire to hang union bosses from lampposts? Report Abuse
Oct 5, 2012
RobinH
Are these people blissfully unaware of the fact that crippling the national economy cannot in any way benefit anyone? I simply cannot understand the reasoning, if indeed the word "reasoning" can apply. Report Abuse
Oct 5, 2012
sabza007
Workers must not be fooled by these Union leaders. No work No pay policy will only apply to the workers of these Unions but these leaders of these Unions will get their monthly pay.
@RobinH
I don't think so, they are not aware. These mines & transport companies will do this finally, give these strikers what they need and two months later retrench them in their thousands. They want companies to meet their demands and yet no production is taking place.My sympathy for these striking miners and some of the truck drivers has diminished mainly due to the tactics,violence and outrageous demands. Report Abuse
Oct 5, 2012
RobinH
sabza: I would tend to agree with you on this, though I still feel some twinges of sympathy for a groupf of people whom I see as being manipulated through evildoers using the real needs of these people as a smokescreen. Nevertheless, education, or lack thereof, is NEVER an excuse for barbaric behaviour. Report Abuse
Oct 5, 2012
Bokwe
After Cosatu (through its affiliate the NUM) was outflanked and marginalised by miners in Marikana, and later other at other mines, they are upping the stakes for their own survival and not to lose legitimacy - and salaries - from their milking cow, the members. How t revert to being workers' representatives still remain a challenge to them, as they are so involved in Alliance politics. How do they protect the interests of their members who are not ANC, beats me. If employed workers can do this, wait for when the unemployed pick up the gauntlet. Then the slogan of a 'better life for all' will start to be seen for the scam that it is even more clearly. Report Abuse
Oct 5, 2012
Blackstone.lebs
Import and export at ports will be shut down,"
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Resulting in less "Import and export Tax" revenue for the STATE????...and i thought RFEA represented private companies Report Abuse
Oct 5, 2012
TheNewFreedomFighter
The way I see it is this... Business drives the economy that provides the wealth for the nation via salaries and social expenditure from taxes, yet here we have an alliance of workers and government pitted against business. This situation cannot last too long.
Here is just one small example of the consequence. A friend of mine who owns a small manufacturing business has already lost a substantial amount of income as a result of the strife on the mines:
1) he has been hamstrung by two of his employees that he inherited when he bought the business who claim their job is affecting their health but they cannot find any evidence for this;
2) the CCMA has ruled time an again against him and every time requests more medical tests all of which the business must pay for and all of which are negative each time, but the workers just stay at home for weeks at a time and provide doctor's notes to cover themselves. He suspects the doctor's notes are fake or fraudulent but doesn't have the time or money to investigate.
3) The CCMA cases take up hours of his valuable sales time so the business suffers due to lower sales and the cost of lawyers is draining the coffers further.
4) Now the transport strike hits him; his two drivers go on strike and indimitate the other staff each day outside the factory. No he must do the deliveries himself.
5) The other staff inside that factory now start to argue that if the drivers get their 12% then they too want 12%.
6) The cost of petrol has rocketed.
7) the Rand has depreciated causing the cost of his imported stock to rise and increase his production cost.
When he looked at his financial situation he estimated that he has two to three months before he will have to shut down the business. His black staff think he is a racist because he won't increase their salaries.
If he can't sell the business in the next two to three months he will be forced to shut it and all his staff will be jobless and he will have lost his investment and income. Problem is, who wants to buy a business and inherit staff who are doing their utmost to destroy the business? Will he ever get a buyer with this situation and in this economic climate?
Oh ya! But does the ANC care? No. They would rather be fighting over which thief among them should get the top job or be making racist BBBEE legislation to hamstring him further.
Under the Alliance, before we know it SA will be down the tubes. The fact is we only see the big business issues on TV but I say to you, for every big business layoff out there, there are probably 20 other small businesses that are about to collapse. Good on you ANC, good on you Cosatu, good on you SA Communist party, good on you ANC voter: YOU ARE ALL QUIETLY DESTROYING SOUTH AFRICA AND YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO SEE IT. Report Abuse
Oct 5, 2012
Phuphethakatha
@MommaC
Anyone else suddenly have a strong desire to hang union bosses from lampposts?
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I am in. This is high treason... Report Abuse
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MommaC
Anyone else suddenly have a strong desire to hang union bosses from lampposts?Report Abuse
RobinH
Are these people blissfully unaware of the fact that crippling the national economy cannot in any way benefit anyone? I simply cannot understand the reasoning, if indeed the word "reasoning" can apply.Report Abuse
sabza007
Workers must not be fooled by these Union leaders. No work No pay policy will only apply to the workers of these Unions but these leaders of these Unions will get their monthly pay.
@RobinH
I don't think so, they are not aware. These mines & transport companies will do this finally, give these strikers what they need and two months later retrench them in their thousands. They want companies to meet their demands and yet no production is taking place.My sympathy for these striking miners and some of the truck drivers has diminished mainly due to the tactics,violence and outrageous demands.
Report Abuse
RobinH
sabza: I would tend to agree with you on this, though I still feel some twinges of sympathy for a groupf of people whom I see as being manipulated through evildoers using the real needs of these people as a smokescreen. Nevertheless, education, or lack thereof, is NEVER an excuse for barbaric behaviour.Report Abuse
Bokwe
After Cosatu (through its affiliate the NUM) was outflanked and marginalised by miners in Marikana, and later other at other mines, they are upping the stakes for their own survival and not to lose legitimacy - and salaries - from their milking cow, the members. How t revert to being workers' representatives still remain a challenge to them, as they are so involved in Alliance politics. How do they protect the interests of their members who are not ANC, beats me. If employed workers can do this, wait for when the unemployed pick up the gauntlet. Then the slogan of a 'better life for all' will start to be seen for the scam that it is even more clearly.Report Abuse
Blackstone.lebs
Import and export at ports will be shut down,"++++++++++++++++++++
Resulting in less "Import and export Tax" revenue for the STATE????...and i thought RFEA represented private companies
Report Abuse
TheNewFreedomFighter
The way I see it is this... Business drives the economy that provides the wealth for the nation via salaries and social expenditure from taxes, yet here we have an alliance of workers and government pitted against business. This situation cannot last too long.Here is just one small example of the consequence. A friend of mine who owns a small manufacturing business has already lost a substantial amount of income as a result of the strife on the mines:
1) he has been hamstrung by two of his employees that he inherited when he bought the business who claim their job is affecting their health but they cannot find any evidence for this;
2) the CCMA has ruled time an again against him and every time requests more medical tests all of which the business must pay for and all of which are negative each time, but the workers just stay at home for weeks at a time and provide doctor's notes to cover themselves. He suspects the doctor's notes are fake or fraudulent but doesn't have the time or money to investigate.
3) The CCMA cases take up hours of his valuable sales time so the business suffers due to lower sales and the cost of lawyers is draining the coffers further.
4) Now the transport strike hits him; his two drivers go on strike and indimitate the other staff each day outside the factory. No he must do the deliveries himself.
5) The other staff inside that factory now start to argue that if the drivers get their 12% then they too want 12%.
6) The cost of petrol has rocketed.
7) the Rand has depreciated causing the cost of his imported stock to rise and increase his production cost.
When he looked at his financial situation he estimated that he has two to three months before he will have to shut down the business. His black staff think he is a racist because he won't increase their salaries.
If he can't sell the business in the next two to three months he will be forced to shut it and all his staff will be jobless and he will have lost his investment and income. Problem is, who wants to buy a business and inherit staff who are doing their utmost to destroy the business? Will he ever get a buyer with this situation and in this economic climate?
Oh ya! But does the ANC care? No. They would rather be fighting over which thief among them should get the top job or be making racist BBBEE legislation to hamstring him further.
Under the Alliance, before we know it SA will be down the tubes. The fact is we only see the big business issues on TV but I say to you, for every big business layoff out there, there are probably 20 other small businesses that are about to collapse. Good on you ANC, good on you Cosatu, good on you SA Communist party, good on you ANC voter: YOU ARE ALL QUIETLY DESTROYING SOUTH AFRICA AND YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO SEE IT.
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Phuphethakatha
@MommaCAnyone else suddenly have a strong desire to hang union bosses from lampposts?
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I am in. This is high treason...
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