DjEp

Eish, that is indeed sad, being the only tribe without a king!
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MommaC

'It is a shame that we Shangaans are the only ones who do not have a king'

No it isn't. Count your blessings. At least there is one group who are not milking us for tax. We'd all be better off if none of these silly little kingletts were around
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DrunkenMaster

Muvhango the return.
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warry

How many women are you planning to we'd and bed Nxumalo. Do nt be a fool, the Ngughunyane was never a king in South Africa but mozambique. Ngughunyane was the son of soshangane who was an induna to Ndwandwe(Nxumalo) defeated by shaka and soshangane ran away to mozambique and establish his kingom there know as Gaza, hence what you need to name your kingdom. Gaza is in mozambique, there is Gaza province there. Go to mozambique and save our tax. We sick and tired of you lazy ass.
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thembisan

What do you expect cause every shangaan person wants to be Zulu
Bhuti wamina
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Phuphethakatha

Nhlapo commission is on the ball here. They must claim their kingdom in Moz...
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TheMan2000

Nxumalo is the king of shangaan only who are the descendent of Nghunghunyani not the Tsongas. According to history the Tsongas didn't not have a paramount chief/king and are not descendents fo Nghunghunyani. Gazankulu was referred too as Gazankulu ya MaTsonga na MaShangana just to accommodate the Shangaans in the republic. The Shangaans moved to present day Thulamahashe/Bushbuckridge are after Nghunghunyani was arrested and taken to Poturgal, Nxumalo was taken to Xipilongo (Levubu) by missionaries then moved to Tshibufhe then to Xaswita (Nkovani). Nxumalo and his people were actually chased from Tshibufhe and Xaswita and were moved to the present day Magona village. Most of the MaTsonga people were staying at the Thulamela area and along the Rivhumbye (Levuvu) river streching to the present day Elim.
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skwamasamabele

No more f**king parasites, as if we dont have enough of these leeches already
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malemaforpresident

Why now? i thought shangaan and tsonga are the same.
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Honeybadger

If you shangaans are fighting for land maybe we should consider sending your friends the vendas to take back their land
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lindsay

you are already leeching the community now you want to leech tax payers shame on you Nxumalo go look for a job man and leave us alone as if we are not alredy geeting anaemic with these leechies please your kingdom is in Mozambique go claim there.
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Tabza325is

U'shangani people should count themselves lucky to not have a king in this day and age, Kings are useless men who sponge on thier community and tax payers money, they contribute nothing of value to thier people and community all they want is respect and for people to bow. Tsonga children should regard themselves Kush to not have been ruled they wear the crown of Khem...
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Zwide_ka_Langa

I am aware dat der is an agenda dat de grand children of de traitors and askaries de fake kings are pushing via sowetan against King Nxumalo hence dey r censoring my comments and are refusing 2 publish dem, but @ de end of de day de truth will out and u will be left in shame.
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Zwide_ka_Langa

Let me take dis opportunity 2 erudite, enlighten and save dose who are drowning in a pool of confusion with regard to this particular discourse, it is often said dat little knowledge is more dangerous dan de lack of it. having gone thru some of Ur comments, i feel a need 2 take it upon myself 2 impart some knowledge.

De Gaza kingdom was established by King Soshangana Manukuso Nxumalo. Soshangana established de Gaza Kingdom after de defeat of de Ndwandwe Kingdom by King Shaka Zulu. He conquered many tribes of different languages like thonga, rhonga, nyambana, dzonga, ndhzawu, shona etc in places that are 2day known as He incorporated dis people under his leadership & gave dem his name of amaShangaana derived 4rm Soshangana. He named de Kingdom after his grand father Gaza, de kingdom grew large in size & numbers, it streched 4rm Northern KZN, Mozambique, Zimbabwe, Mpumalanga & Limpopo. He fought very hard against colonialism 2 a point where he put an end 2 slave trading dat was taking place in coastal lands after defeating de colonialists. After he died, his sons Mzila & Mawewe got involved in a fight 2 rule de Kingdom, King Mzila defeated his brother, King Mawewe ran 2 Swaziland 2 his brother in law King Mswati who had married King Soshangana's daughters 2 avoid attacks 4rm de Ndwandwes. King Mzila died, de very same year of de Berlin conference 2 partition Africa & colonize it took place, his son King Nghunghunyana known as de Lion of Gaza assumed power, it was in dis troubled times dat King Nghunghunyana waged many wars of resistence 2 defend Africa & its resources. He was identified by de Berlin conference as de only stumbling block in de Southern Africa dat was standing on deir way 2 achieve deir mission & goals of raping Africa.
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Zwide_ka_Langa

british, dutch & portugal colonial powers wage many wars against de Gaza Kingdom but in vain, dey attempted diplomatic means through deir agents like cecil john rhodes and many missionaries but King Nghunghunyana remained defiant & fought very hard 4 dis African Soil. It was only after dey adopted de divide & rule strategy dat some Africans who were promised kingship if dey assist de colonialists 2 overthrow King Nghunghunyana dat dis group of colonialists with deir heavy ammunitions assited by black traitors & askaries defeated King Nghunghunyana in a bloody battle dat saw multitude of Africans being butchered n slaughtered like never before.
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TheMan2000

This is what happens when you try to assist people when they are in trouble, you were given land and now you want to rule the people who took care of you when being chased by soldiers. The Nxumalo Royal Family participated in the formation of the Gazankulu homeland in 1969 and were never given the Kingship of the homeland. Nxumalo you know your people (Ngove, Mageva, Buyisonto, Gija, Mashobye, Thulamaha and others) just go and rule them. I hope this has nothing to the millions being wasted by Zwelithini in KwaZulu-Natal. Vuhosi a byi tluli nambu.
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ShadesOfGrey

Yes, we need more kings, for if there is one thing that will really help our country along it is having more people encouraging tribalism and getting fat from our tax rands without giving anything back.

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s.cold

i thought u-MAWILLIES(singer) was the king of Shanganes
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Zwide_ka_Langa

It was at dis point when he was arrested & exiled with his children & wives 2 europe dat dis colonialists awarded dose Africans who betrayed de land & fought on de colonial side, dis is de moment where colonial borders like ZAR, Mozambique, Rhodesia & many were created, de partitioning of Africa began. de very same colonialists made fake treaties & sign dem demselves 2 make it seems dat King Nghunghunyana accepted defeat.
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Zwide_ka_Langa

King Eric is de 3rd generation after King Nghunghunyana. He is a rightful heir & he is right in claiming 4 his Kingdom bcos de Gaza Kingdom was ruthlessly destroyed by colonialists & dose dat betrayed Africa.
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MommaC

Zwide_ka_Langa

Wish you were able to write in English. Unfortunately, I don't speak Bingo
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Zwide_ka_Langa

You will pardon this deliberate grammatical and spelling errors, the challenge is that when i write in full letters, my comments get erased. You can visit www.gazakingdom.net to get proper history instead of being bombarded by this thonga fake kings who are possessed by their ancestors spirit of betreyal, treachery & cowardliness.
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oldlady12

Zwide_ka_Langa, I feel the same as MommaC. We are not in da Jamaica. I wud love to read ur history lesson, but all dis sms tlk is 2 mch fr me. Sowetan does not censor words like this, that and the.
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skwamasamabele

Zwide_ka_Langa- I fail to see your point, unless you trying to give us a history lesson. In that case, your offering is totally unwelcome. Point is, we have a parasites like all kings and queens (that we can do without) who serve no purpose, dont contribute to the economies, dont create enough jobs, dont pay taxes, bleeding us (working classes) dry and basically stealing our vital oxygen. The French & Russian Revolutions saw through these parasites, and set about destroying them. During feudal times, we had no option but to accept the status quo, but these days they are definitely surplus to requirements
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Nthabalala

Sure u have put it nice honeybadger, The land belong to the Vendas and i believe the vendas take this with nice herat if they get thier land back. But kind of nation without a King. How were u leaving during aprtheid, you even have a tsonga's anthem. no wonder there is no even a shangaan commenting.
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Bingo-Ingo

@Zwide_ka_Langa
Tell them Zwide_ka_Langa. In fact this guy who is complaining about non-recognition of monarchy needs to be informed that that whole Gazankulu area is part and parcel of the Kingdom of the Zulu. King Zwelithini needs to lodge a claim, and the sooner the better. The Zulu Kingdom stretches from KZN to Zimbabwe, Mozambique and including certain parts of Malawi. Those who label our Kings as kinglets will answer one day. This Nxumalo chief has to pay allegiance to King Zwelithini, period.
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oldlady12

Bingo-Ingo, so Zwelethini actually owns Bob's land? Interesting.
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Mothata

Nxumalo said he survived on money contributed by the community because they feel aggrieved by the Nhlapo Commission's outcome.
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Why dont you work for yourself?
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Bingo-Ingo

@oldlady12
Absolutely. Fortunately you learnt a lot today. Another thing, nobody complains about the finances allocated to Her Royal Majesty of England
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galaxy4

Is this Kingship thing become a tender nowa dayz?



nowa dayz if you unemployed you just look for people who do not have a king, then takeover and become a millionere
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Tabza325is

@Zwide_ka_Langa, I bow down to your Tia-Chi...
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WarrenG

Love this picture...west meets Africa...skin shield, shades, suites and ties and leopard print head band...fukken hilarious. Bet they all wearing Nikes, even the dude in full regalia. Kwa kwa kwa KWA......
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Zwide_ka_Langa

@ oldlady12, please refer to www.gazakingdom.net for full info that includes pictures of King Nghunghunyana.

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Zezinho

Nxumalo must just go to Moz and rule there. Not all Tsongas were conquered by the Ndwandwe and not all Rhongas were conquered by the Ndwandwe. So his claim is void! Shangaans are Ndwandwe with Zulu surnames. People, we are tired of the misconception! Nxumalo can go jump. We do not have a KING, he can shove it!

Proudly Rhonga
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Zezinho

Zwide ka Langa was ran away from Shaka Zulu. He was a chief not a King a big difference.
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Bingo-Ingo

@Zezinho

In other words there was no order in that area prior to the arrival of Soshangane, people were living like the animals in the wild. No wonder Kruger National was created
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Zwide_ka_Langa

Zezinho, please In future when you argue a point try to back it up with evidence, @ Bingo-Ingo, thanx 4 Ur consideration. King Shaka sent an army to look for King Soshangana as he was establishing an empire. Many of the warriors suffered from diseases, some he defeated the remaining he Incorporated them into Gaza Kingdom. It was only after the death King Shaka that a Nxumalo returned by the Name of Somankulumana to run the affairs of Zulu Kingdom during King Dinizulu's reign. But all in all, Gaza Kingdom was independent from the Zulu Kingdom.
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Zezinho

There were Kings, they were destroyed by the Portugues, like King Rhonga of the Rhonga people who are found in the South of Moz. People were not living like animals. Tsonga people were already in the parts of SA some did not want to be part of Soshangana like the Nkuna who are found in Tzaneen.
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Zezinho

Yes it was impendent from the Zulu Empire that is true. We are not commenting about the Zulu Empire here but Nxumalos claim to the throne of the Tsonga-Shangaan. Here in South Africa there is not Gaza Empire only in Moz. He can go there. For example, ANC leaders were in exile in places like Zambia, Angola and so forth, did they establish rule those countries? No but came back to the rightful place to lead the people. Same with Nxumalo. Nxumalo sent Mpisana to scout the land in Bushbuckridge before he could escape.

I say Nxumalo must head back to Moz should he wish to re-establish his Kingdom.

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Zwide_ka_Langa

Zezinho, a King and Kingdom is made in war times not in peaceful times, cowards run and hide, their names are forgotten forever. It is well documented that King Soshangana Nxumalo defeated many tribes which he found loosely organized and incorporated them into a nation called AmaShangaana who lived in an area called Gaza Kingdom. Just because a handful of cowards ran away from King soshangangana's rule does not diminish the fact that Gaza Kingdom and amaShangaana existed and they still exist. When we talk of Kingship and Kingdoms, we are not referring to a coward representing his jacket, we are talking about a collection of people here, there are many surnames in this world and there are many people who ran away from wars, just because they found a tree to hide and gave birth to a handful kids does not make them kings. Infact King Soshangana after conquering this little groups, he permitted them to practice their own cultural activities and settle at any place in Gaza Kingdom for as long as they obeyed and acknowledged his Kingship by paying tribute and observing Gaza culture, practices & values.
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Tibub

Who needs a king at this day and age , what are his motives for wanting to be granted the kingship status is it to have many wifes or is it to make money and live a lavish life like that boy from swaziland or his role model is a certain zulu king and he wants to be driven around in stylish mercs while people will be hungry and i think we have enough people wasting our taxes like someone who is renovating his compound at our expense.

Proudly Shangaan from Bushbuckridge but am saying no to this idea.
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Zwide_ka_Langa

@ Zeninho, the fact that I have been telling you that Mozambique, parts of South Africa, Nothern Zimbabwe is according to oral and written history Gaza Kingdom does not make sense to you. The good thing is that I am a very patient person, I will never give up on you, allow me to educate you once more. The Gaza Kingdom stretched from close to the Nkomati River in the south , to the Zambezi and Pungwe Rivers in the north, and from the Indian Ocean in the East to the Drakensberg and Zoutpansberg , and eastern Zimbabwe in the west; a total of approximately 240 000sq km . At the height of its power in the 1850s-1890s, the direct authority of its rulers extended over the whole of what today is known as southern Mozambique, large parts of western Zimbabwe, and Limpopo and Mpumalanga Provinces in the Republic of South Africa.
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Zezinho

Of course he conquered and that is documented and a fact. Now let us look at where was the Kingdom and where it is geographically? Where are the headquarters of the Gaza Empire? Gaza Province Mozambique. He must go back and rule there. Should the Queen Migrate to the USA, is she going to have a Kingdom in the USA? Not a chance but in the UK yes.

Nxumalo a muke kaya ekaGaza. Xitsonga xi ri vuhosi a byi tluli nambu, loosely translated when you cross the river you leave your throne behind. Se nkulukumbha a va muke kaya ekaGaza. A hi lwi na swona ku madala ihosi kambe ihosi ya le kwini na vamani? Hayi eRupublik ya Afrika Dzonga. A muke kunene a ya fuma kona kwale ka Gaza.
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Pointman

I cannot stop laughing after reading this story and the comments. Is this guy really in the wrong country as @warry claims. The poor guy is expecting the gray to start flowing soon.
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Zwide_ka_Langa

@Tihub, the main reason why the King want to be granted Kingship status is to restore what was stolen from him by the colonial powers that robbed him of his land that has natural resources that was suppose to be benefiting the children of Africa. I am glad you mention that you come from Bushbuckridge, that is where King Mpisana who was King Nghunghunyana's Uncle came to establish after the incarceration of his brother's son by the europeans. It is better known as Gaza East or Ka Mpisana.
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Zezinho

@Zwide ka Langa, same with Mswati. The Swatis in SA are not subjects of him they do not pay tax to him only those that are in Swaziland. Mukhulu a va hi lombi, a va yi gube. Moz a hi kule loko u ri Mhala.
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Zezinho

You fail to understand Geography mkhulu Zwide ka Langa. Xana vuhosi bya ka Nxumalo byi lekwini hi ntumbuluko? ekaGaza eMoz. A va muke mkhulu va ya claimer koho.

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Zezinho

He is a refugee in SA! Admit it, he is a refugee! Na va Buyisonto.
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Zwide_ka_Langa

As I have mentioned before that I am very patient and that educating people is my passion, I will once again revisit the issue of colonial borders and Kingdoms. When King Shaka Zulu defeated the Ndwandwes, he quickly moved his power base to a place called Nongoma which was a name given to King Zwide's Son. He extended the Zulu Kingdom through military conquests and subjugation. In the 18 hundreds, there were no colonial borders which you seem to be so much in love with. That means a king had as much land available to him provided he defeated that particular tribe. Zulu Kingdom is concetrated within KZN and parts of Mpumalanga, does this suggest that when King Zwelithini's land is only limited to KZN because of provincial borders? I do not think so too, or the fact that part of the Venda Kingdom is in Zimbabwe does that limit the Kings's rule in Vhembe district only, you guess correctly a big NO, how about King Moshoeshoe who is the overall King of the Sotho including the once in Limpopo? you see, my point exactly, so please my friend rid yourself from this colonial mentality that is limiting your vision. King Soshangana's head quarters were moved from various parts of de Gaza Kingdom for strategic and tactical reasons. For Instance when King Shaka was pursuing him, he moved far Gaza North known today as Zimbabwe but moved South After the he defeated King Shaka's army. King Mzila, Soshangana's son moved to Gaza West in a place called Zoutpansberg today in Limpopo to prepare for war to overthrow his brother. King Nghunghunyana was also moving his head quarters from Mandlakazi to various places as well. So you see that your obsession with colonial borders makes very little sense and don't forget we are engaging about Kingdoms not republics neh. I won't charge you for this lecture, It comes free.
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TheMan2000

To start with Nghunghunyani was not the legitimate heir to throne it belonged to his half brother Mafamani from the principal wife (Nkozikazi) which resulted in his forcing his other brothers (Anhana & Mafabaze) to exile. When he took over the kingship his father Muzila had already entered into formal agreements with the Portugues and they provided them with gift and he requested a Portugues flag to fly over his camp. We never had a Nxumalo King of Tsonga people in South Africa, the Nxumalos did however have a kingdom among the Nguni in the northen Natal which disintegrated with the defeat of Zwide ka Langa to whom Soshangane (Manukuso) was a subject and commander of Army. Makulumani, Zwide's grandson was appointed the Traditional Prime Minister of Zulu King Dinizulu (King Zwelitini's father or grandfather). Soshangani did manage to develop the Gaza Empire/Kingdom which capital cities were Chayimiti, Bileni, Madlakazi & Musapa, there is a stature or Menument of Nghunghunyani in Chayimiti in the Gaza Province Mozambique. This is the reason uninformed politicians and the Nxumalo Clan faced resistance when erecting the Nghunghunyani stature at Giyani Information Centre. Is this not another form of colonization?. Soshangane conquered some Tsonga people and subjugated them, this indicate that he or his ancestors never founded the Tsonga people. The Tsonga language is a mixture of Ronga, Xitshwa, Chopi, Ndzawu and Shona whereas Shangani is a mixture of Nguni languages (Zulu, Swati & Xhosa), this also indicate the Tsonga's are not Ngunis or Vangoni or Mungoni. They only came to the present day SA to seek refuge and assistance. We learn, speak and write XiTsonga at school not Shangani, even the Radio Station used to be called Radio Tsonga.
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Pointman

Pity !!! Why. I have never heard a Shangaan complain about this before.
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Zwide_ka_Langa

Exactly our concern Pointman, these are askaries who mastered the divide and rule strategies from their colonial masters who was hell bent on destroying a prosperous people's Kingdom, its their house niggers ancestors speaking through them, we defeated colonialism, apartheid before, we will defeat them again.
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Zwide_ka_Langa

TheMan2000 do not attempt to fool the nation, the most unfortunate thing that you and your askari- treachery ancestors cannot do is to change history, you have failed after you assisted the colonialists to kill fellow blacks and overthrow a once prosperous people's Kingdom in colonial times, the only one that united many tribes and Languages in in this beautiful continent, you have failed when your ancestors and fathers were crowned kings without subjects by the apartheid regime to honor their betrayal of fellow Africans led by King Nghunghunyana, you got King King Makgoeba killed by Tzaneen areas and many others who suffered at your masters colonial gun powders, but this time, we will defeat you once and for all generations to come.

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TheMan2000

Zwide la Langa you run after the defeat by the Zulus and went on to form the Gaza Kingdom and you fought amongst yourself which lead to the demise of your Kingdom/Empire which resulted in some of your people to run to the present day South Africa in areas such as Thulamahashi and Albasini. The Nxumalo Clan tried and the Nhlapo Commission rejected his attempts to colonise the Tsonga people. When Gija arrived in South Africa he tried to stay in Tshimbupfe and was chased away by the Venda Chief Davhana and tried his luck at Xaswita which is under Hosi Xikundu and was chased away for not listening to the Chief while staying on his land. He was then allocated an area which was taken from the Maluleke (Van'wanati) Clan by the Boers, this is the area where the Mashobye and Gija (Magona) villages are today. Who benefited from colonization?. Prior to Gija moving to leave with the Tsonga people, Muzila seeked refuge from Joaoa (Jiwawa) Albasini and Magwamba people after the civil at the Gaza Kingdom. Joao Albasini was a Portugues hunter and no relations with Soshangani or Gaza Kingdom until Muzila's arrival in 1850. Joaoa Albasini, Tsonga soldiers, Hosi Mugudu wa Khosa, Mahutsi wa Makwakwa and Lorenco Macques assisted Muzila to topple his brother around 1861. When Buyinsonto (Nghunghunyani's heir) returned from captivity with assistance form missionaries via Windhoek , Johannesburg and arrived in Louis Trichard (Makhado), the Magwamba people did not accept him there and was then linked to the Mashobye and Gija people. Gija had to take to Bushbuckridge where Thulamahashi was a caretaker king, on their way they passed well established Tsonga people such as the Valoyi's, Nkuna's, Rikhotso's, and Mavundza's. During Buyinsoto's Coronation in 1922 none of the Tsonga Chiefs were invited not even the Hoxani, Khosa and Mnisi and also the Ngomane who were close to them. Hosi Buyinsoto ruled until his death and never claimed to be the Chief of Tsonga people. Thulamahashi tookover after Hosi Buyinsoto's death and he also never claimed this title. All the best my man.
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Zwide_ka_Langa

TheMan2000, I am pleased to note that you can still recall what your ancestors gossiped into your ear. I am indeed pleased to see you corroborating and confirming what I have been preaching through out the day. I will now give you 55 out of 100, I will however do my best to help you with corrections so you can get 100% for the upcoming case test. you might have had that King Shaka Zulu forcefully took the Kingdom from Senzangakhona and that he was overthrown by his half brothers. Please pay attention when I'm teaching don't let Zezinho disturb you because he got 15% for last test. Have you ever had of a book called a bible? in the bible there is a man called King David, his very own son waged war against him, his father fought back and defeated him, a child out of adultery who to this very day, no leaving soul can ever surpass was born by King David. This illegitimate child became a King and executed his half brother for suggesting that he want to marry King David his deceased father's younger wife. Are we still together, can you guess this King' name? its ok let me help you, it was King Solomon. Do you need more references or you want to go the loo? let me proceed, King Mzila as with many normal Kings had many wives, when this King Mzila came into contact with these wives children were born. As with any living normal person, human beings develops what is called ambitions, your ancestors too were ambitious, but they lacked the strength that King Soshangana possessed to build a strong empire like the Gaza Kingdom. Back to my point, King Nghunghunyana was the first born son of King Mzila from his mother so was King Mafemana and many others. you will appreciate that when a king is still alive, he delegate responsibilities to his children, some he send them very far to govern his constituency, some they remain with him. As with any family, children are not homogeneous products, just like you and Zeninho, you are brothers but one is a slow learner and the other is very good in cramming, so it was with King Mzila's children there were smart once and fit once, you are very fortunate to remain after class today because i will teach you the secrets of the Kings, there are many processes that must be satisfied before a person can assume power in a royal family as a king, normal when a rightful heir is born, he does not leave in the royal head quarters, the King himself will make plans that he stays very far from the family with a distant relative. When he stay there as a young boy, he is taught many secrets about running a Kingdom. Hence King Soshangana always engaged his grandson King Nghunghunyana about politics, economy and so forth because he was identified and groomed at a very early age that he will rule the Gaza Kingdom when his father go to sleep with his ancestors. It was never a suprise at all that when his father bowed for the last time, he immediately assumed power. I wonder who was keeping your ancestors informed about the matters of the royal family where they were hiding in those caves. What I was trying to tell you is that a King is born a King chosen from an early age.
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Zwide_ka_Langa

here is something also called a King by blood, let me not open this chapter today but next year when you have mastered this one and also have helped your brother Zeninho to get atleast 40% in order to qualify for the exam. I'm glad to see you are beginning to understand the difference between a republic and a kingdom, though you still having that little colonial-apartheid divide & rule mentality that you inherited from your askaries ancestors. With reference to borders, please join your brother Zeninho on my previous lessons concerning borders just to sharpen your knowledge. Chayimithi or Shayimithi is at Gaza Kingdom South, this is where King Nghunghunyana defeated the Chopi, he came and made it one of his head quarters for strategic and military purposes. He had head quarters in Bileni which is in today's Zimbabwe, in fact king Mzila, his fathers's bones still lay at Bileni.I am happy to see you have memorized this places, you forgot to mention others like Zoutpansberg and other parts of the Gaza Kingdom aswell.
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Zwide_ka_Langa

you also forgot about the Mzila war in Vhembe where he went with the likes of Maswanganyi to conquer the Kings there and they were paying what is known as Mzila Tax. I see just like your brother, you are obsessing too much with the word thonga/tsonga.
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Zwide_ka_Langa

Like I said in my previous class that when king Soshangana began conquering, there were so many tribes, tsonga/thonga never escaped, it was neither a kingdom nor an organized structure but a loose grouping of small families which you are part of.
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Zwide_ka_Langa

ur ancestors managed only to come out of the caves when the europeans promised them chieftainship if they can help defeat King Nghunghunyana
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Zwide_ka_Langa

who frustrated their efforts to molest Africa.
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Zwide_ka_Langa

It was after this era that you and your ancestors were told that you are kings without subjects that you took it very literally. But even in that era of brain washing our people, they knew who their real kings were, hence when they moved to places in Limpopo they named the place under that brutal apartheid system Gazankulu which means greater Gaza, they wouldn't let anything stand on their way that includes you and your ancestors in rightfully naming their beloved Gaza Kingdom. That we are refugees that's colonial masters voice speaking, please redeem your self from that cruel demonic mentality, you had so many privileges like having radio stations brain washing kids with this divide and rule tsonga vs shangaan scrap yard ideologies after all you helped the colonialists to end peaceful prosperous nation by killing your fellow blacks in colonial and apartheid times hence our ancestors were being denigrated on daily basis through those platforms, of which you still do to this very day on this site and your so called tsonga blogs with your mandla mathebula, robert nkuna but to name a few culprits who think will one day see your evil ancestors plan coming to life. even if all the Nxumalo had to go and sleep, the truth will always be known and heard and the people of the Gaza Kingdom will see right through your lies and treachery activities that you were taught from birth by your askaries ancestors. I will stop here for today, I won't continue until you have mastered today' lesson.
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TheMan2000

Chief Zwide ka Langa you sound like a frustrated teacher whose theories is being challenged by the his/her students. I have no problem with the way you are articulating your history, however I do have a concern when you want me to intepret my history to suit you and your ancestors so that you can clolonize us in 2012. You seem to be reading from the same bible that informed Hosi Nxumalo to claim that he is the King of Tsonga people, you are trying so hard to convience your students to understand this subject your own way. Remember your students have brains too and should not be dictated too. Like I said before your ancestors did manage to conquer and subjugate some Tsonga people but not all of them. Conquering is not founding, your ancestors never founded the Tsonga people, Tsonga people were there and doing their own things. My xivongo does not includes the Nghunghunyani or Soshangani, what I am saying is " a ndzi xihluke xa Nghunghunyni mina" period. Just answer this simple question, Whose land is Chief Magona or Magona village on?. Just go check what Gija said to the government in 1904 when they arrived in Transvaal after the defeat of the Nxumalos by the Portuguess. Bring another lesson teacher. Are you aware that Mhinga was chosen to run the Gazankulu homeland while Nxumalo was there, though the title was given to HWE Ntsan'wisi.
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Zwide_ka_Langa

with regard to your last posting, were you expecting your colonial masters to be kind to King Nghunghunyana's son King Buyisonto by granting him his father's status after they killed his father in exile? you will also remember that he was not formally released but escaped as he was forced to go to world war in north Africa from those european countries. the reason why he was exiled in europe with his father was that they wanted to put an end to the people's Kingdom, the only Kingdom that remained fighting your master's encroachment in African Soil, hence even when he made requests for his status to be restored, your british and boere masters objected and instead made you askaries, the so called tsonga chiefs, so that unity in Gaza Kingdom must not exist. They tried very hard to divide us through this tendencies that you and those fake so called tsonga chiefs are displaying today, but once again the people's Kingdom thrived, hence when his statue was erected multitudes of our shangaan-tsonga people flocked to celebrate the return of the Son of African Soil in his land, the only askaries that objected and sent empty threats was you and your mhinga. to this day King Nghunghunyana statue is still standing peacefully in Giyani where multitudes flocked again this weekend to celebrate this hero's selfless life. as for the nhlapo commission, the commission was very pleased with the Gaza Kingdom presentation and even declared that there has never been a Kingdom that has such logical beautiful events of history like it, they have never disputed or related anything to your rice grain mentality of borders because nhlapo's aim was to restore what was stollen by your masters and grandfathers. the only dispute we have as you might have read already relate to this fake treaties that your masters forged claiming that King Nghunghunyana signed.
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Zwide_ka_Langa

for your own benefit, please go to http://www.gazakingdom.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=61&Itemid=53

the heading reads: THE GAZA KINGDOM CHALLENGES THE RESULTS OF THE NHLAPO COMMISSION
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Zwide_ka_Langa

I'm trying my best to assist you, i decided to copy the content instead.


THE GAZA KINGDOM CHALLENGES THE RESULTS OF THE NHLAPO COMMISSION

Ha mi xeweta n’wina Ma-Gaza ya rikwerhu. N’wina vatukulu va Gwambe na Dzavana. N’wina swihluke swa Nghunhgunyana.

It is common course that our post-apartheid government created a platform for the restoration of traditional kingdoms that were suppressed by apartheid, colonialism and imperialism in our country.


The same government also appointed the Nhlapo Commission to listen to all the claims and to give a determination.

I, Mpisani Eric Nxumalo, the direct descendant of Soshangana submitted the only and impeccable claim for the recognition and restoration of Nghunghunyana’s throne to this Commission.


No other rival or competing claim was submitted. It was a one-horse race.

After many months of waiting, the Nhlapo Commission produced the strangest of determinations. For example:
In its view all the millions of Vatsonga people in this country do not exist. If they do exist they are nothing more than an amorphous lot that does not deserve any group identity or figure;
Nhlapo agrees that when in 1922 my grandfather, Buyisonto, escaped from captivity, he was immediately restored as king, and that it was the British Government which refused him recognition, thereby suppressing his rightful status;
The Commission argues that Nghunhgunyana lost his throne in 1884 when he ascended the throne and signed a treaty giving up his sovereignty. In this regard, the Commission lost sight of the fact that all kingships were victims of colonial machinations. Even a primary school kid knows that the story of Dingaan and Piet Retief signing a treaty is a fake; similarly, the treaty between the Bapedi and Shepstone was also a lie. The same colonial lie surrounds the said 1884 treaty between Nghunhgunyana and the Portuguese. Nhlapo’s finding is therefore not only hollow but it flies in the eyes of his official brief. In certain instances he condemns colonial suppression but in other cases he upholds it;
What is surprising is that it is only the alleged treaty between Nghunhgunyana and the Portuguese that the Commission respects and recognises. All the other treaties with some of Nghungunyana’s contemporary traditional kings are regarded as suppression strategies. This we find odd. What applies to the goose should apply to the gander. This is why we are challenging the Commission’s pronouncement. We believe the Commission erred.

The Gaza Kingdom has therefore decided to take Nhlapho’s strange determination to a court of law. We believe a court of law will give a completely different finding which will safe you, the descendants of Gwambe and Dzavani; you, the offshoots of Nghunhgunyana from oblivion. The court process has begun.

In line with the decision above, we wish to appeal to all Vatsonga- Machangana to stand up and be counted. We also appeal to all the friends and associates of Vatsonga-Machangana, to come out in your numbers and support this noble course. We need your support in cash and in kind. We have secured the services of the best legal brains in the country. But they do not come cheap.


We therefore wish to provide you with the details of an account into which you may deposit your donations. Your contribution will be utilised for the purpose for which it is requested for. Without your involvement we are doomed as the eleventh language group.Wily-nily this determination directly feeds into the xenophobic onslaught aimed at all Vatsonga-Machangana in some areas. If not stopped our end has begun. It is your hard-earned contribution that can stem the tide. We have to stop this scourge and it has to be stopped now.

Below follow the details of our account:

Name of Account : Gaza kingdom
Account No. : 622 774 712 58
Bank : FNB
Branch : THULAMAHASHE

For more infomation, contact ME Nkanyane, Gaza Kingdom Spokesperson on this Cell No: 0824169485

Khanimambo


Bayethe ME Nxumalo



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Zwide_ka_Langa

the other story worth reading is http://www.thenewage.co.za/63563-1013-53-Puppet_chiefs_under_fire

the premier directly speaks about your ancestors, i will also copy it for your own benefit.

Montsho Matlala

Premier Cassel Mathale has paid tribute to the traditional leaders who fought against western colonial oppression and refused to be dominated by western cultures during apartheid era.

Addressing more than 2000 people during provincial Heritage Day celebrations held at Polokwane cricket club on Monday, Mathale said colonisers had destroyed part of the African cultures and traditions.

He said chiefs who refused to obey colonisers were dethroned and dispossessed of their land and livestock.

“Others who were not rightful traditional leaders were appointed because they created conducive environment for colonisers to do as they wished,” said Mathale.

He called on chiefs in the province who “know that they are no rightful traditional leaders” to abdicate power and not wait for commissions of inquiry to depose them.

Already the Kgatla Commission is at work in the province with the aim of resolving more than 500 disputes of traditional leadership dating as far back as 85 years ago.

He said kings such as Ngungunyane, Malebogo, Makhado, Sekhukhune and others would always be remembered for waging fearless wars against colonialism.

Mathale paid tribute to struggle heroes such as Charlotte Maxeke, Lufuno Mulaudzi, Thembi Skosana, Shadrack Mafokoane and others whom he said sacrificed their lives for liberation.

“Among the brave sons of the soil who challenged apartheid was Moses Mankgetleng Mphahlele who composed the Sotho version of the national anthem, ‘Morena Boloka Sechaba sa Heso’,” he said.

Mphahlele who was the secretary of the ANC helped in the selection and adoption of the party’s colours of black, green and gold in the 1940s.

Mathale called on people to guard the country’s freedom by defending their heritage and languages.

“We must never undermine the culture of others, we must learn and appreciate them. We are one people under diverse cultures and we must live together in harmony,” said Mathale.

Puleng Mashangwane from the nearby Ga-Dikgale village came to the celebration clad in Xitsonga attire, her granddaughter Bontlahatsi, 4, was dressed in Sepedi attire, grandson Mabotja 9, wore a Basotho hat and daughter Kobele, 28, donned Tshivenda outfit.

montshom@thenewage.co.za
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TheMan2000

If there is one thing I have mastered today is that a person must get frustrated if people don't agree with him/her views and must stoop so low to even accuse Apartheid and colonialism to back up his or her lies. I don't blame you, the current government has taught you that if you don't have an answer on political or historical matters you must then blame it on either Apartheid and colonialism. All the areas that your ancestors are accompying in the current SA were given to them by the colonizers, so they benefited. What Mkhacani Maluleke, Robert Nkuna, Mandla Mathevula and Hlengani Mabasa are advocating is the same thing that me and you are doing, that is putting our point across. We have a freedom of speech which should be afforded to each and everyone of us.
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TheMan2000

I always believed that my teacher is an insider and a person directly affected by the Nhlapo Commision's decision given the arrogance and undermining other people's view. Benson Ntlemo the writer of this article who is from Makuleke is also not your subject i Mun'wanati or Maluleke, I hope he did indicate this to you. I hope this has nothing to do with the millions of tax payers money that Zwelithini is getting. Can't wait for November 5&6.
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JajazQueen

Why are we still promoting this ridiculous ancient culture which has clearly never benefited any our communities?
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bigboi007

Im a Nxumalo from Swaziland. Descendant of Madzanga who was the son of King Zwide. Soshangane was the brother to Zwide and we are proud that he did not accept Shaka as his King and fled to form his own nation. It is a shame that our great brother is not recognised as the people that he grouped together to form Shangaans would probably not be a part of South Africa today had it not been for him. The Portuguese were probably revenging for the destroying of Delagoa Bay and other of their trading places by forcefully defeating our brothers and taking their land from them. White people are not from here. You cannot deny a black man his land that he fought hard for here, regardless of whatever treaties were signed as we all know that the white people did not introduce these treaties out of the kindness of their hearts. Good luck to our brother!
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Zwide_ka_Langa

TheMan2000, every land we settle at was ours, it has been part of Gaza Kingdom, It is part of Gaza Kingdom, after your colonial masters and your puppet ancestors killed our people King Mpisana forge a way forward to bring together the displaced Kingdom. That was the moment when you traitors were given medals for your treachery services. How we can benefit from a system that dealt harshly with us is a fallacy. If you are insightful enough, you might have seen that my username is ZWIDE_KA_LANGA, I am a descendant of the Great King you and your coward ancestors are ridiculing on daily basis, you denigrated him before through colonial and apartheid times, but this time, I will put an end to your nonsense, about millions, I do not need money from any of this thing, unlike you and your cabal that you listed above who were rented by this fake askari chiefs to represent, I do this to honour my ancestors never for a cent. In our discourse, I never asked you wether the journo was mnwanati, It is your divisionist little mind of divide and rule which you need to rid your self of. That my ancestors defeated and formed a kingdom who's land you still leave in will always be a reality you must leave with.
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Zwide_ka_Langa

bigboi007, Sothondoze, wena wase Gudu, sibonga impilo Mkhatshwa. Kumele shlangane nga manye ama langa Zwide, Uya bona kuthi izinto zihamba njani wena wase gudu.
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Zwide_ka_Langa

TheMan2000, when we engage in future, please desist from your silly tendencies of ridiculing my beloved glorious mass democratic movement, the African National Congress and its Government, why are you attempting to link this conversation with your negative cope-da mentality that we ANC members are uneducated, love insults etc...are you finding it hard to believe that your colonial-apartheid days are brought to a standstill by this elephant?
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bigboi007

Sho mnaketfu sibonga kona kuphila vele kusita lapho kuba ngu phunyuka bamuphethe hehehe... Ya keep me posted Nkhabanhle though travelling is expensive it is important that we meet and know each other. Sharp Nkhabayenkhosi
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bigboi007

To protect my identity Ill give u my fax number please contact me on 0866362829 for anything bra Zwide_ka_Langa
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Ndwandwe3Agincourt

Its a shame that people confuse simple issues about the kingship of the gaza kingdom this has nothing to do with the identity of Shangaan vs Tsonga history. These two never existed before the kingdom was founded, people were vachopi ,varonga,vatshwa,vandzawu etc these people bring birth to all of us it useless to separete a shangaan from aTsonga these was done by missionaries to confuse us becaus some of them were called magwaba. so people must refrain from trying to separate a Shangaan from a Tsonga we are one we carry one blood from the same people.The only diffrence that whites used was to control us.It is also wrong to suggest that shangaan are from Bushbuckridege people like Mabaso which is spelled like Mabasa and others in Giyani are the one that come with Soshangana. Nguni identity of other surname can not be used to separate a Shangaan an Tsonag we are one. Discuss the kingship claim not the people.those who see themselves as part of the gaza kingdom must do so without others confusing them if you dont belong no one must be forced to. live with it .
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Ndwandwe3Agincourt

your debate was going to be worthit if there was a king who is also claiming to be a king of the gaza kingdom.But what your discussing is worthless.Nxumalo can not go an claim his kingship in Mozabique there kingdom was also within the boundaries of south africa befoe the arrival of whites who created boundaries to separate africans
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TheMan2000

Zwide ka Langa did you succeed in suing Preseident Zuma (a leader of your so called beloved ANC) over the Nhlapo Commission findings that there is no evidence suggesting that the Gaza Kingdom existed in the missionary demarcated Republic of South Africa. Ndwandwe3Agincourt I think you are confused and Zwide ka Langa is failing to back up his claims/lies. Zwide ka Langa lets engage in future especially after the November court date.
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TheMan2000

Zwide ka Langa did you succeed in suing Preseident Zuma (a leader of your so called beloved ANC) over the Nhlapo Commission findings that there is no evidence suggesting that the Gaza Kingdom existed in the missionary demarcated Republic of South Africa. Ndwandwe3Agincourt I think you are confused and Zwide ka Langa is failing to back up his claims/lies. Zwide ka Langa lets engage in future especially after the November court dates.
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Zwide_ka_Langa

I'm beginning to doubt your reasoning capacity, or maybe you are just a chronic liar, If I have given you incorrect info, proove me wrong. At no stage did the Gaza Kingdom mention that they are suing Cde President Jacob Gedleyihlekisa Mhlnganyelwa Zuma, it is your little divide & rule brain that is showing you this hallucinations, what the Gaza Kingdom mentioned of which I furnished you with the data was that they are challenging the outcome not the President.

Here's evidence of your puppet askari ancestors works

http://www.gazakingdom.net/index.php?option=com_fwgallery&view=image&id=27:027-396428-3309461173456-2106147445-n&Itemid=68#fwgallerytop

for more visit
http://www.gazakingdom.net/index.php?option=com_fwgallery&view=galleries&Itemid=68
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TheMan2000

Zwide ka Langa please read my this article which appeared on Sowetan 06 Aug 2010. You can also search on Search SowetanLive.

Title: Threat to sue Zuma over kingship
06 Aug 2010 | Benson Ntlemo | 5 comments
THE Gaza kingdom in Limpopo plans to take President Jacob Zuma to court after the Nhlapo Commission refused to recognise the descendant of warrior monarch Nghunghunyane, Eric Mpisane Nxumalo as a king.

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The commission said in its findings that there was no proof that the kingdom did exist in South Africa.

It said it appeared the kingdom only existed in Mozambique.

Spokesperson for the Gaza kingdom Mamba Nkanyane said they would serve Zuma with papers before the end of the week, with Minister for Local Government Sicelo Shiceka and Limpopo Premier Cassel Mathale as second and third respondents respectively.

Who is lying?.
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valoyi

Jhi kam, wena Zwide, himpela ku phunta a va pfuxeli va pfuxela vavabyi! Wo ka tindleve kumbe va leme hi mhula? Wa nyumisa kam! Famba hlamba vuphunta wa hi nuhela!
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valoyi

Wena Zwide wa Mukalanga tshika ku hi nyongolwa mani! I mani a nga te u lava ku twa matimu ya va kokwa wa wena? Wa hi tinga mani! Naswona loko u byeriwa a wu twi! Wena u Muzulu hina hi Vatsonga. A swi hlangani helo swisweswo. Famba risa tihomu mani (hambi mi na tona hiku wonge mi sikile)! Mi tsutsume hi 1897 mi ta Bushbuckridge. Varhonga, Vatsonga, Vatswha, Vandzawu, na Vachopi na xintlawana xexa n'wina xa Machangana a hi hlangani helo, handle ka ku mi te ka hina mi ta vuchavela-hwahwa, mi siya Varhonga eMkuze. U vulavula Xitsonga, u Mutsonga na wena man! Wo hi ku ambela ku nona, ku fa ka Vuchangana wonge a wu ku twanga. You've been assimilated, deal with it! Or go back to NONGOMA. All 200 of you! Ku hava xilo lexi va nge i Muchangana ko va ku hlala. You ignoramus!
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valoyi

You guys commenting about the land belonging to the Vendas must first check when the Venda dynasty was formed and where they were living. The logic linking them to Shonas does not hold water. I'm of Shona/Nyayi descent and I'm Tsonga. Nyayi does not immediately translate to Venda. But let's not get into this...

Soshangana ruling in Mozambique is also a fallacy. Soshangana was just a raider, nothing more.
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