If this was a Zulu thing, people would be whining about tax by now...Even Sowetan would be whining. There is tomuch tribalism in this country... Report Abuse
Sep 28, 2012
Mellow
@Lerato LMAO so according to you just because they have 2 kids already means they married? Next thing you gonna say for 2 yrs pls lets not excite all those women who arent even proposed yet but have kids with their spouses cause they will want to change their surnames and use their partners surnames claming to be married because of kids
Part ya tax ya rona e contributile mo lenyalong le. Report Abuse
Sep 28, 2012
MGEEZ
@Sowetan
The 27-year-old is the eldest son of Madiba and Madikizela-Mandela’s daughter, Zindzi.
The Mandela s gave Lindo the new marriage name of Nondzolo. Giving a bride a new name is part of the Xhosa culture to install her as a new family member. Her in-laws will call her by that new name.
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You guys are feeding us nonsense here on this article. This boy is not a Mandela to begin with!!! Why did he assume his mother surname (Zindzi)? Did she produce this boy by herself? If not; my understanding is that in the same culture that they claim to be practising above; this boy should have be taken home and fulfil certain cultural rituals to assume the surname of his Father from who's loins he proceeded forth. Report Abuse
Sep 28, 2012
skwamasamabele
2 children?? did he sired them himself? or someone has been giving his missus a good seeing to. Aparrently all Mandela boys are infertile Report Abuse
Sep 28, 2012
uMnuz
Love them... Think they're a lovely family... Very natural and they look happy, next time more photo,s.
Congrats to you both, hope your life will be full of happiness.
@ DJ-Winner - There is too much tribalism in Africa and the rest of the world not just in SA.It a human condition like Racism and Xenophobia that unfortunately can not be cured.
I like it when Africans keep it African ,shows that they are proud of their heritage and hold it higher than any foreign one. Report Abuse
Sep 28, 2012
HollaBaby
@Zondwa mandela
what is your surname?cause Mandela is your mother's surname not you Report Abuse
Sep 28, 2012
Bobodlwane
What is it with the,Zenani, Zondwa, Zizi, Zazi, Ziwelene hayi mani the ZZZZZZZZ is too much Report Abuse
Sep 28, 2012
Sguveve
Wow! what about poor miners at aurora? Every dog will have it's day. Report Abuse
Sep 28, 2012
Bygonz-Kunsmis
@HollaBaby
what is your surname?cause Mandela is your mother's surname not you
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If Mbuso can father Mandla`s child , maybe Zinzi was chowed by the late Makgatho Mandela . Report Abuse
Sep 30, 2012
Flemza
Isn`t this Zondwa suppose to be calling himself by his father`s name , are the Mandelas sleeping with each other now to keep tha Mandela name , did Zindzi Mandela sleep with her brother , now , a Mandela as well , what wrongs with other cultures I don`t understand , how can a child of a married dauhter be called by her mother`s surname instead of his father`s , what going on in Qunu , people please explain , all these years the Mandela daughters has been sleeping with ther brothers making kids few I can`t believe it , God help us all , this is inbreeding by the world`s icon kids , daughters sleeping with there brothers for the sake of keeping a name , I can`t believe this Report Abuse
Oct 1, 2012
Stimzozo
And what the hell do we have to do with this marriage? Kahleni bo Sowetan, not everything about Mandela worth reporting. Report Abuse
Oct 1, 2012
Mpharane
Zindzi o ne a sa nyalwa ha Hlongwane, kapa mohlomong ke ya fosa. Ka traditional marriage ke ha o kopangwa badimo, jwale lona ba ha Mandela le etsa jwang na? That is why there is so much divorce in this country. Report Abuse
Oct 1, 2012
Phuphethakatha
@DJ-Winner
If this was a Zulu thing, people would be whining about tax by now...Even Sowetan would be whining. There is tomuch tribalism in this country...
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I disagree, Zondwa is/was a business partner of Khulubuse Zuma and he's not a chief or traditional leader. Our tax is untouched here and that's why there is no whining... Report Abuse
Oct 1, 2012
Phuphethakatha
@Intomb'omxhosa
Nondzolo??? whooow!!!!
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Should be spelt Nonzolo
Bobodlwane
What is it with the,Zenani, Zondwa, Zizi, Zazi, Ziwelene hayi mani the ZZZZZZZZ is too much
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Very nice names. Short and sweet... Report Abuse
Oct 1, 2012
Loggs
Zenani (Zeni) Mandela was married to Prince Thumbumuzi Dlamini and one of their sons is Prince Cedza Dlamini. NOTE: Prince Dlamini's kids are using their father's name.
Zindziswa (Zindzi) Mandela-Hlongwane, married to Mr Hlongwane and her son is Zondwa Gadaffi Mandela, her daughter Zoleka Mandela.
This looks like Mr Hlongwane is married by the Mandelas,or is Zondwa Gadaffi Mandela the son of Mr Hlongwane or Muama Gadaffi? Report Abuse
Oct 1, 2012
Phuphethakatha
@Loggs
Zindziswa (Zindzi) Mandela-Hlongwane, married to Mr Hlongwane and her son is Zondwa Gadaffi Mandela, her daughter Zoleka Mandela.
This looks like Mr Hlongwane is married by the Mandelas,or is Zondwa Gadaffi Mandela the son of Mr Hlongwane or Muama Gadaffi?
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You're right. This boy is a Hlongwane and not a Mandela. Even the name Zondwa is a Madiba clan name. The boy was not even named by the Hlongwanes, as you say, Mr Hlongwane was married by the Mandelas. He can't even name his kids!. Gadaffi is a middle name, like others would be John, James etc. I know a few Xhosa guys whose middle names are Nyerere, Mengistu (named after African leaders) Report Abuse
Oct 1, 2012
Madlenya
@VENDALIOUS
Your comment is equal to my stupidity. However, I am not worse than you because I reserve my lunacy contained in my intact capacity of nonenty. 1-1 Report Abuse
Oct 1, 2012
TheMan2000
People should stop being lazy and stop using other peoples surnames for economic benefits and recognition. Where are the Hlungwani's in this marriage, just asking?. Report Abuse
Oct 1, 2012
funza
Nondzolo!!! They havent welcomed her yet to the family.......her name too should begin with a "Z" or did you guys get it correctly may be its Zanzolo or something like that!!!!!!!!!! Report Abuse
Oct 2, 2012
mopediTwiiiiii1988
Do we have to be told everything that is happening in the mandela family,soon they will be telling us the got divorced. Report Abuse
Oct 2, 2012
Stimela
this guy is not a Mandela! what nonsense is this? Report Abuse
Oct 2, 2012
Pikoko
Am with u there Stimela. Why all the Mandela grandchildren using Mandelas name. don't they have fathers or are they ashamed of them since they are nobodies....hahahaaaa?????????? Report Abuse
Oct 2, 2012
Ishara
Zoleka and Zondwa are not Hlongwane's children. Zoleka's father's surname is Seakamela and she sometimes hyphernates her surname. Zondwa is from a different father - Mbuyiselo. I believe Zindzi and Mbuyiselo had a terrible break up and I don't think he played any role in raising Zondwa. I don't see anything wrong in Zondwa using the Mandela name if the Mandelas raised him. In the african culture a child must belong somewhere and if the dad is absent, then then childrens issues are handled by the maternal side.
Also, Cedza is Muzi's son from his first wife. Zenani's children are Zaziwe, Zamaswati, Zinhle and Zondwa. I have never understood how Cedza started using the Mandela surname, it smacks of opportunism. Report Abuse
Oct 5, 2012
smokie
I realy hate it when people do cultural ceremonies in a wrong way and when it comes back to hunt them they say they are bewitched. for starters in our culture *Xhosa* the wedding is prepared by the brides parents at her place. No 2 this boy belongs to Hlongwanes as Mr Hlongwane is a biological father, No 3 how did the old man *Mandela* allowed this to happen in the first place and please mandela's stop doing this to our culture you are giving other ppl false information abt our ppl. in conclusion this is wrong they need to do things ryt otherwise this marrige wont last!!! Report Abuse
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Intomb'omxhosa
Nondzolo??? whooow!!!!Report Abuse
VENDALIOUS
now here goes our tax money.Report Abuse
Mellow
Congra to the both you hope you will never take your vows for grantedReport Abuse
SWEETYK
GONGRATSReport Abuse
DJ-Winner
If this was a Zulu thing, people would be whining about tax by now...Even Sowetan would be whining. There is tomuch tribalism in this country...Report Abuse
Mellow
@Lerato LMAO so according to you just because they have 2 kids already means they married? Next thing you gonna say for 2 yrs pls lets not excite all those women who arent even proposed yet but have kids with their spouses cause they will want to change their surnames and use their partners surnames claming to be married because of kidsNewlywed means exactly that
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Kgaitsedi-ya-Genaro
Part ya tax ya rona e contributile mo lenyalong le.Report Abuse
MGEEZ
@SowetanThe 27-year-old is the eldest son of Madiba and Madikizela-Mandela’s daughter, Zindzi.
The Mandela s gave Lindo the new marriage name of Nondzolo. Giving a bride a new name is part of the Xhosa culture to install her as a new family member. Her in-laws will call her by that new name.
====================================================
You guys are feeding us nonsense here on this article. This boy is not a Mandela to begin with!!! Why did he assume his mother surname (Zindzi)? Did she produce this boy by herself? If not; my understanding is that in the same culture that they claim to be practising above; this boy should have be taken home and fulfil certain cultural rituals to assume the surname of his Father from who's loins he proceeded forth.
Report Abuse
skwamasamabele
2 children?? did he sired them himself? or someone has been giving his missus a good seeing to. Aparrently all Mandela boys are infertileReport Abuse
uMnuz
Love them... Think they're a lovely family... Very natural and they look happy, next time more photo,s.Congrats to you both, hope your life will be full of happiness.
Report Abuse
9janavy
@ DJ-Winner - There is too much tribalism in Africa and the rest of the world not just in SA.It a human condition like Racism and Xenophobia that unfortunately can not be cured.I like it when Africans keep it African ,shows that they are proud of their heritage and hold it higher than any foreign one.
Report Abuse
HollaBaby
@Zondwa mandelawhat is your surname?cause Mandela is your mother's surname not you
Report Abuse
Bobodlwane
What is it with the,Zenani, Zondwa, Zizi, Zazi, Ziwelene hayi mani the ZZZZZZZZ is too muchReport Abuse
Sguveve
Wow! what about poor miners at aurora? Every dog will have it's day.Report Abuse
Bygonz-Kunsmis
@HollaBabywhat is your surname?cause Mandela is your mother's surname not you
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If Mbuso can father Mandla`s child , maybe Zinzi was chowed by the late Makgatho Mandela .
Report Abuse
Flemza
Isn`t this Zondwa suppose to be calling himself by his father`s name , are the Mandelas sleeping with each other now to keep tha Mandela name , did Zindzi Mandela sleep with her brother , now , a Mandela as well , what wrongs with other cultures I don`t understand , how can a child of a married dauhter be called by her mother`s surname instead of his father`s , what going on in Qunu , people please explain , all these years the Mandela daughters has been sleeping with ther brothers making kids few I can`t believe it , God help us all , this is inbreeding by the world`s icon kids , daughters sleeping with there brothers for the sake of keeping a name , I can`t believe thisReport Abuse
Stimzozo
And what the hell do we have to do with this marriage? Kahleni bo Sowetan, not everything about Mandela worth reporting.Report Abuse
Mpharane
Zindzi o ne a sa nyalwa ha Hlongwane, kapa mohlomong ke ya fosa. Ka traditional marriage ke ha o kopangwa badimo, jwale lona ba ha Mandela le etsa jwang na? That is why there is so much divorce in this country.Report Abuse
Phuphethakatha
@DJ-WinnerIf this was a Zulu thing, people would be whining about tax by now...Even Sowetan would be whining. There is tomuch tribalism in this country...
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I disagree, Zondwa is/was a business partner of Khulubuse Zuma and he's not a chief or traditional leader. Our tax is untouched here and that's why there is no whining...
Report Abuse
Phuphethakatha
@Intomb'omxhosaNondzolo??? whooow!!!!
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Should be spelt Nonzolo
Report Abuse
Phuphethakatha
BobodlwaneWhat is it with the,Zenani, Zondwa, Zizi, Zazi, Ziwelene hayi mani the ZZZZZZZZ is too much
*************
Very nice names. Short and sweet...
Report Abuse
Loggs
Zenani (Zeni) Mandela was married to Prince Thumbumuzi Dlamini and one of their sons is Prince Cedza Dlamini. NOTE: Prince Dlamini's kids are using their father's name.Zindziswa (Zindzi) Mandela-Hlongwane, married to Mr Hlongwane and her son is Zondwa Gadaffi Mandela, her daughter Zoleka Mandela.
This looks like Mr Hlongwane is married by the Mandelas,or is Zondwa Gadaffi Mandela the son of Mr Hlongwane or Muama Gadaffi?
Report Abuse
Phuphethakatha
@LoggsZindziswa (Zindzi) Mandela-Hlongwane, married to Mr Hlongwane and her son is Zondwa Gadaffi Mandela, her daughter Zoleka Mandela.
This looks like Mr Hlongwane is married by the Mandelas,or is Zondwa Gadaffi Mandela the son of Mr Hlongwane or Muama Gadaffi?
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You're right. This boy is a Hlongwane and not a Mandela. Even the name Zondwa is a Madiba clan name. The boy was not even named by the Hlongwanes, as you say, Mr Hlongwane was married by the Mandelas. He can't even name his kids!. Gadaffi is a middle name, like others would be John, James etc. I know a few Xhosa guys whose middle names are Nyerere, Mengistu (named after African leaders)
Report Abuse
Madlenya
@VENDALIOUSYour comment is equal to my stupidity. However, I am not worse than you because I reserve my lunacy contained in my intact capacity of nonenty. 1-1
Report Abuse
TheMan2000
People should stop being lazy and stop using other peoples surnames for economic benefits and recognition. Where are the Hlungwani's in this marriage, just asking?.Report Abuse
funza
Nondzolo!!! They havent welcomed her yet to the family.......her name too should begin with a "Z" or did you guys get it correctly may be its Zanzolo or something like that!!!!!!!!!!Report Abuse
mopediTwiiiiii1988
Do we have to be told everything that is happening in the mandela family,soon they will be telling us the got divorced.Report Abuse
Stimela
this guy is not a Mandela! what nonsense is this?Report Abuse
Pikoko
Am with u there Stimela. Why all the Mandela grandchildren using Mandelas name. don't they have fathers or are they ashamed of them since they are nobodies....hahahaaaa??????????Report Abuse
Ishara
Zoleka and Zondwa are not Hlongwane's children. Zoleka's father's surname is Seakamela and she sometimes hyphernates her surname. Zondwa is from a different father - Mbuyiselo. I believe Zindzi and Mbuyiselo had a terrible break up and I don't think he played any role in raising Zondwa. I don't see anything wrong in Zondwa using the Mandela name if the Mandelas raised him. In the african culture a child must belong somewhere and if the dad is absent, then then childrens issues are handled by the maternal side.Also, Cedza is Muzi's son from his first wife. Zenani's children are Zaziwe, Zamaswati, Zinhle and Zondwa. I have never understood how Cedza started using the Mandela surname, it smacks of opportunism.
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smokie
I realy hate it when people do cultural ceremonies in a wrong way and when it comes back to hunt them they say they are bewitched. for starters in our culture *Xhosa* the wedding is prepared by the brides parents at her place. No 2 this boy belongs to Hlongwanes as Mr Hlongwane is a biological father, No 3 how did the old man *Mandela* allowed this to happen in the first place and please mandela's stop doing this to our culture you are giving other ppl false information abt our ppl. in conclusion this is wrong they need to do things ryt otherwise this marrige wont last!!!Report Abuse
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