McCountryMan

Zuma You are Going Down, Dark or Blue.
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skwamasamabele

Oh, Msholozi, the wheels are falling off, even the spare wheel has a puncture. We need to revamp our African National Congress, and Msholozi, with all due respect Sir, I dont think you are the man to do it. Before you came into office, I had all the confidence in you, but it has'nt gone to plan now, has it??
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MorenaWaPolelo

This survey its not going to Mangaung we will determine the leadership!!!!!!!
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Lord-Have-Mercy

I am personaly going to Mangaung Conference
Survey or no survey Zuma will get the second term
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DrunkenMaster

This story is worsening my hangover.
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MommaC

So?
It isn't the public that chooses the president and the ANC doesn't care what the public think. It will be up to the branch leaders to decide, not the public.

By the way, are these the same twits who did a survey and decided that Cope would take 40% of the vote in the last elections?
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Lehido

I dont give a rat's ass, i just want his ass GONE...

We, the General Public, didnt choose the damn clown....
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Vhamsanda

I want to CHOOSE my own President.
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DeOvi

Zuma 4 second term PERIOD
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NightVigilLeader

Friends of youth league for president

AYESABA AMAGWALA!!!!
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PAPARAZ

Zuma, second term, no i don't think so, he should contest King Zwelithini.

Kgalema for president uncontested.
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KILLERa1111

Someone who did Stats in varsity would ask these questions 1) what is the Margin of error (MOE), 2) whats is the standard deviation on the poll conducted...

You can not make a conclusive statement or extrapolate on the survey conducted in urban cities and you only asked 2000 people out of 50 million people..that would be reckless.

Majority of South Africans live in rural areas where the kings and iziNduna are in charge...Survey like these are good for being posted on SOWETAN website so that bloggers can argue but will not give a true picture...

The sample size of 2000 out of 50 mil is significantly immaterial that one can not form an oppinion or conclude or extrapolate.
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Mgwijikhwebu

I will be voting in Mangaung, and not Sowetan and TNS Surveyors... These people are so desperate to see the back of JZ. But they must just forget 'cos that's not about to happen. All latest political developments point towards JZ's victory. Come December, I can't wait for the silence in all media houses aka prophets of doom...
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WarrenG

I doubt it's 48%. Thats too high. Maybe 48% of the ANC like him, but not the whole country.
Whole country about 20% want him.
Thats why he's get voted out. Cos he's a kak leader.
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Mgaraji

Same surveys said Zuma will lose hands down in Polokwane. These surveys are an indication of victory for Zuma.
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I wish JZ gets a second term, because that will mean that the DA will get millions of new voters next election.
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somaartakeit

@Gwijikhwebu how can it perceive zuma victory when he failed on his anc mandate post plkn it to unite anc and ultimately the country? the is more divided now than it ever was, so how should this result in the anc rewarding zuma with 2nd term? I am just curious not that I care if zuma is president for life, cause his incompetence will affect millions voting for the anc by far,
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leShandiis

- let me get umgqakazo and get ma popcorn ready....cant wait for the results
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KILLERa1111

@ somaartakeit - give me one candidate who is competent and give me reasons of how that competancy is measured..
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DJ-Winner

Cosatu, NUM, SACP, KZN, Mpumalanga, Freestate all support Zuma. I think Zuma will get the second term...
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Nabelakuku

Its the branches votes that matters.. I hope we are not going mislead by the surveys which continously dish out kaak... We are not amused at ol
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Papage

Only ANC have a final say, not everyone in the starts is a member of African Congress, so don't be fooled, this is SA and not America.
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Papage - Yeah, its much easier to bribe the branch-leaders going to Mangaung, then the entire country.
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mgambu

Choose JZ and forget my vote.. I'll rather vote for Lindiwe and them. Monna moholo o wa nyontsha.

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MorenaWaPolelo

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Papage - Yeah, its much easier to bribe the branch-leaders going to Mangaung, then the entire country
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Surely you do not know the ANC politics branch leaders are not voting but branches are voting, so a branch leaders vote does not decide the wishes of the branch.....
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MorenaWaPolelo

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I wish JZ gets a second term, because that will mean that the DA will get millions of new voters next election
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Where are those millions now?Why should they wait for Msholozi's second term?
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mgambu

Branches will vote JZ because they have been feed left overs.. ba lapile net and they want continuity for these left overs. I think its about time that we do away with this voting system.
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mgambu

MorenaWaPolelo
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I wish JZ gets a second term, because that will mean that the DA will get millions of new voters next election
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Where are those millions now?Why should they wait for Msholozi's second term?
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It's people like me and this is because we just following bloody fools. that's why we seeking alternatives

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spirro

lets stop counting the eggs be4 it hatches
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MorenaWaPolelo

mgambu
I think its about time that we do away with this voting system
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And replace voting with what system?
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MorenaWaPolelo

mgambu
It's people like me and this is because we just following bloody fools. that's why we seeking alternatives
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Why should you wait for the Zuma's second term to join DA?
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mgambu

Lehido
I dont give a rat's ass, i just want his ass GONE...

We, the General Public, didnt choose the damn clown....
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Even "clowns" will not want to be associated with this old man. This one is just a disgrace and I don't understand why the public is tolerating such a person and go to an extend of reelecting him...yoooohhh!!!. Re louwe indeed rona tjhaba se setsho...and to think of it.. worse, we just don't have leaders in the ANC..bo Cyril ba ikela kwa feela, re batshepile.. re needa Ramasedi fela hiso.
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mgambu

MorenaWaPolelo
mgambu
It's people like me and this is because we just following bloody fools. that's why we seeking alternatives
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Why should you wait for the Zuma's second term to join DA?
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The problem is that our voting system is just fuuuccckkedd up and there is nothing that can be done now
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mgambu

MorenaWaPolelo
mgambu
I think its about time that we do away with this voting system
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And replace voting with what system?
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I agree that we needed such a system when we got power. My opinion is that it's no longer relevant. We need a system that will help us grow our country.
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MorenaWaPolelo

mgambu
I agree that we needed such a system when we got power. My opinion is that it's no longer relevant. We need a system that will help us grow our country
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Ok what system is that my Chief?
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Hail

The things is Anc is famous on shooting themseves on the feet, it is a normal thing to them. This second thing is one of those things again. Nothing is surprising there. What I love about everything is people are becoming wiser everyday. My Grandfather is 89 yrs the last tym we talk politics he said to me " hey the wheel is really disappointing us" because when he was voting he always look for the sign of ANC that black wheel. That is where the majority people are, in the rural areas but now they become wiser by the day.
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Gusheshe

I wonder if there are stil normal people who support this dude for a second term except offcourse his fellow Inkandla zulus
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mgambu

MorenaWaPolelo
mgambu
I agree that we needed such a system when we got power. My opinion is that it's no longer relevant. We need a system that will help us grow our country
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Ok what system is that my Chief?
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Look, I don't have all the answers but as South Africans, I think we should start thinking about it.

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mgambu

Gusheshe
I wonder if there are stil normal people who support this dude for a second term except offcourse his fellow Inkandla zulus
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I have asked myself what kind of a nation are we or is just me with my twisted mind. Hello the dude is just a story teller...he'll be good to tell ANC bed time stories to our kids at night..helllllo Mzantsi wakie wakie wake up people.
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MorenaWaPolelo

mgambu

Look, I don't have all the answers but as South Africans, I think we should start thinking about it.
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Ok so you want to change the system but you do not have an alternative system and you want South Africans to think about a system that you don not have answes for......how ramprasad Sir!!!!
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JohnStone

Stop waisting your breath and sanity. Zuma will remain ANC president beyond Mangaung. The ball is in Kgalema's court, he has two choices as things stand; either he contests Zuma and lose, meaning the end of his political career, or he stands with Zuma and Zuma steps down as President of the country and leaves Kgalema in charge, same as in 2008 when the two led from Union Buildings and Luthuli House respectively.

If Kgelema contests, then Zuma will beat him hands down. Zuma is neither a fool nor a coward, he is the only ANC leader who was prepared to go head on against Mbeki when others were cowering and wetting their pants in corners. These polls are 99% off the mark most of the time.

The ANC in its wisdom will retain both Zuma and Kgalema. Julius has damaged Kgalema's chances to a point of no return. No ANC leader wants to be elected by a bunch of anti-ANC rouble rousers. When Zuma was being hounded by Mbeki, Lekota and co, Zuma sought refuge in the ANC not outside the ANC as Julius is doing with the ANCYL.

Another issue here is that whoever allows Malema to lead his campaign to unseat Zuma is doomed to fall long before delegates head for Mangaung. Anyone who wishes to be taken seriously as an ANC leader must stand up and lead, not hide under Juju's belly. If Malema continues to lead the campaign, anyone elected as a result of such campaign will never lead the ANC since they will take their "orders" from Juju and Floyd.
We need a strong leader of Zuma's calibre who said upon his election in Polokwane that he "owed nobody". That is why, though very patient, he was able to tell both Juju and Vavi that he was in charge, not them.
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MorenaWaPolelo

JohnStone
Well said comarade Kgalema is not a naive morron like the youth thinks!!!
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MorenaWaPolelo

Gusheshe
Lehido
we are already being fed a useless 2-headed h0rny prick....
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hahaha and yet his felllow Inkandla Maskandi and others sees him as a good leader and therefore deserve second term. how sad
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Why do you resort to name calling?
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mgambu

MorenaWaPolelo
mgambu

Look, I don't have all the answers but as South Africans, I think we should start thinking about it.
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Ok so you want to change the system but you do not have an alternative system and you want South Africans to think about a system that you don not have answes for......how ramprasad Sir!!!!
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See I'm just an engineer dealing with technology strategies...I don't think it could be a train smash to think of such a system to replace the current one AND NOTE this is if and when I'M PUSHED to think of one. So I'm being considerate when I say, we as South African, we need to start debating this issue before everything get irreversible.
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Mporoz

Hi

Can you add another percentage for my family and my neighbour.

We live in Durban,
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MorenaWaPolelo

mgambu
See I'm just an engineer dealing with technology strategies...I don't think it could be a train smash to think of such a system to replace the current one AND NOTE this is if and when I'M PUSHED to think of one. So I'm being considerate when I say, we as South African, we need to start debating this issue before everything get irreversible
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My Chief from one Engineer to Another you know you do not replace anything unless you have a better alternative solution, so lets agree that voting system is irreplacabe in a democracy we have !!!!
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MorenaWaPolelo - From another engineer to another, if something is broken, you fix it :P
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mgambu

MorenaWaPolelo
mgambu
See I'm just an engineer dealing with technology strategies...I don't think it could be a train smash to think of such a system to replace the current one AND NOTE this is if and when I'M PUSHED to think of one. So I'm being considerate when I say, we as South African, we need to start debating this issue before everything get irreversible
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My Chief from one Engineer to Another you know you do not replace anything unless you have a better alternative solution, so lets agree that voting system is irreplacabe in a democracy we have !!!!
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hahahahaaaaaaa MorenaWaPolelo you very funny hhaaaaaahahahhaaaaaa...ok agreed...whe you say "in this democracy we have"...hahahahaaaaa very funny
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MorenaWaPolelo

25 Sep 2012|Sinudeity|
MorenaWaPolelo - From another engineer to another, if something is broken, you fix it :
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From another engineer to another also if its not broken (eg the voting system) you don't fix it
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mgambu

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MorenaWaPolelo - From another engineer to another, if something is broken, you fix it :P
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get the joke man...MorenaWaPolelo is saying, we can't fix the bllooooddy system under this democracy...get the joke?
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MorenaWaPolelo

mgambu
Thats the spirit I hope you will be laughing like that on the voting queue when you vote DA, my Chief the system is perfect!!!
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mgambu

let me ask this...when SA are we going to be ruled by specialists? or is it impossible in Africa?
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mgambu

MorenaWaPolelo
mgambu
Thats the spirit I hope you will be laughing like that on the voting queue when you vote DA, my Chief the system is perfect!!!
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It's sad man (and I love the history of the ANC) but I think that's something I leave to sleep comfortably with... rather than nightmares that I'll be having after voting for this current leader again.
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FATTY

I do not want anything from ANC, enough is enough. What a STRESSFUL GOVERNMENT, SHOOOO!!!!!
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MSG_S

What difference does it make?. That's all bulls!t this Mr Z will get the 2nd term anyway. He knows how to fight his way out.He was able to manipulate the anc so called intellectuals to become the president of the country. He is going to entice the ancwl this time around to be 100% behind him. NOT UNDER/BELOW/BENEATH....for God's sake.
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ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat

This survey is spot on. It clearly shows that among those who speak isiZulu, Jacob Zuma has a commanding lead but Motlanthe leads in all the other categories. This is also confirmed by responses we see in this Forum with people like Mgwijikhwebu, Dandan and others refusing to accept the reality that JZ is definitely not the favourite. Looking at the numbers Kgalema Motlanthe can still widen his lead. While he is already leading Jacob Zuma there is still a large number of people who still have to make up their minds about him.Yet on the other hand there is large number of people who have made up their minds that they do not want JZ to serve a second term. A well-organised campaign by the ANC Youth League from the 1st of October should widen Motlanthe's lead over Zuma. It is amazing that Motlanthe is leading Zuma even when his campaign has hardly come out of the stalls. On the other hand, almost the only voice we have heard has come from desperate Zuma supporters. Kgalema Motlanthe does not have to come out and say that he wants to become the President of the ANC. Even now he can start making speeches to the effect that he serves at the pleasure of ANC branches and is prepared to serve the ANC in any capacity decided by the organisation's branches. On the other hand Jacob Zuma has always appeared desperate to serve a second term, with his supporters openly intimidating other ANC members and branches. Young people have to be bold and press the message home. Otherwise we are going to be stuck again with Zuma for the nexct five years even when he is clearly not the favourite. I expect a robust campaign for Kgalema Motlanthe every day from the 1st of October until Mangaung. Motlanthe is a disciplined member of the ANC waiting to be deployed by ANC branches. Come on guys, gird your loins! Let's go to work and make sure that we defeat the political Philistines.
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sechaba30

48 % is still very very high.
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CumFast

Eish the Rock was on point this weekend...ngisaphethwe i hangover..
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STRAIGHTTALK3

I wonder whether these guys really did research. To crosscheck their findings, we have been also be doing community research that includes both rural and urbun areas. Our findings are a contrast with what these so called researchers got. Our results show that each and every month people interviewed still have trust in the current leadership. In January, 53% voted in favour of Zuma, in February 53%, March 52%, April 51%, suprising from May 59% prefered Zuma, June 64%, July 73%, in August 72%. However those for September which are still in progress show that 79% of people who are voting are in support of Mr Zuma.
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sechaba30

Thats a rubbish survey, you probably did it in Nkandla and Rural KZN regions
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MyPot

DeOvi
Zuma 4 second term PERIOD
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MXM stupid chicky, how can you expect a baboon to rule us, it knows nothing about economy or what what.....aaaaggggggg, moegoe
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