Incompetence and shufflingand reshufling of Ministers,how can within 4yrs we have 2 ministers of this important department,this country is really going down,but we only have ourselves to blame by insisting on electing leaders with no vision and knowledge of how to lead..change is a must or we doomed. Report Abuse
Sep 25, 2012
warry
Does the Shaik ring a sound in you? Durban will protect us. Let's look at this, Botswana is weak militarily, zimbabwe is cashless just asked for $100000 then Mozambique we married a wife there nobody attacks a son in law if he treats the wife well then Namibia we fought with them. Our enemy will get in by the side of cape Town, those guys there won't let them in there is lot of wine they will get drunk. In Durban we give them Currie with lot of spices they will be hungry and we kill them simple.Shaik is there also. Report Abuse
Sep 25, 2012
LBS
Is there ANYTHING that isn't collapsing under this useless government? Report Abuse
Sep 25, 2012
Mondi
What happened to one of the best Armies in the world!!??
An Army who build some of the best weapons and had dissipline!!!
for as long as u have people that are politically appointed, that is certain to happen. Report Abuse
Sep 25, 2012
MorenaWaPolelo
This is not good, Zuma must fire defense Minister for not being vocal about asking for a bigger budget!!! This oversite is putting our lifes in danger!!! Sometimes deploying people without militatry experience to this positions can not be ignored!!! Report Abuse
Sep 25, 2012
|Sinudeity|
Lindiwe Sisulu, the most incompetent MP in all of South Africa. Report Abuse
Sep 25, 2012
Makhosini0408
|Sinudeity|
Lindiwe Sisulu, the most incompetent MP in all of South Africa.
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Your forgot Modise, Lekota, Nqakula Report Abuse
Sep 25, 2012
Papage
How much are the Black Soldiers salaries? Report Abuse
Sep 25, 2012
Moffdat
Can someone mention the fact that you really cannot afford to have a fat soldier, which most i see are!
The women... sies man! Who are they going to defend if the can't even run??? Report Abuse
RSA no longer has an army. They have a bunch of fat useless over paid slobs that could not defend this country if they tried.
If we stopped sending them for "holidays" in other country's as part of United Nations Peace keeping, then we would have sufficient manpower for our country and if good old army discipline was introduced,perhaps we could have a fighting force to be reckened with.
But as long as we have the good old ruling party, the army will simply deteriorate like all the other systems and institutions in this country. Report Abuse
Sep 25, 2012
Zambuck
Mr Papage another black racist "How much are the Black Soldiers salaries" these pages are filled with black racists, they are not capable of seeing that the problem lies with the black racist ANC government, the utter contempt that it feels for the citizens of this country by its ongoing corruption scandals, incompetence and inability to govern in a responsible manner. Report Abuse
Sep 25, 2012
malemaforpresident
the Apartheid regime was having the most sophisticated army in the world now our lives are in danger they can not even protect our nuclear facilities Report Abuse
Sep 25, 2012
BlackSeed
How do you expect an Army and Police personnel to protect the whole country whereas they fail to protect a few in their radius?
Politicians are like both soccer players and journalist; same questions and answers for decades, yet same problems.
Incompetent politicians is where it starts. An army with a union.....what a joke. South Africa is on a slippery slope, the politicians are stealing her blind. Look North to Nigeria to see SA in 10 years (collapsed infrastructure corrupt business dealings only dealing with natural resources, no manufacturing, no entreperneurship, corrupt politicians, sectarian fighting)....look North to Sierra Leone, Congo and Liberia to see South Africa in 20 years (warlords fighting, no government to speak of no law and order, no infrastructure people reduced to eating rats to stay alive). Report Abuse
Sep 26, 2012
Ndele01
@4man,
You are so correct - but the real frustration is that the South African people have the privilege of voting for a ruling party - the power is in the hands of our citizens - not like many of our other African states.
I can bet you there are people who have commented here who still vote for the ANC. When you point a finger at someone else, then there are 4 fingers pointing at you(citizens) !
Those who have stopped voting take no responsibility for this country - just like the Zimbabweans did - the Zimbabweans decided it's easier to flee to South Africa. But where will we go ? Our only weapon is our vote - but it might be too late. If another political party takes over, then they have to first pay back the debt created by this party - it wil take 4 years of suffering to get back on track. Last night I saw Bushbuckridge owes Eskom R280 million ! Where has all the money gone to ? Report Abuse
Sep 27, 2012
newsnexus
I'm not surprised. If you don't know the value of a rand how will you cope if the budget is simply increased? Overspending will remain a problem. With the previous government, the SADF was rated among the best in the world, now we are a laughing stock. The SANDF is a joke. Merely a holiday inn used by people to incompetent or stupid to get a real job. SADF was about serving and defending. SANDF is about getting paid to do nothing; or funding tertiary studies for almost immediate use in the private sector after quiting. Moffdat is right, our soldiers, especially the woman are not ready for war. Most are physically unfit, the others untrained or just slacked off during training and therefore useless. The accuracy of our average infantryman is horrifying, my platoon was forced to get our marksman badges (skutsman baldjie) or get permanent "paal PT" and latrine duty. Some soldiers were present at a shooting range the SAPS and some private individuals frequent. We regularly put the police to shame on the range and during combat shooting exercises (hence the police interest in the range); but the way the infantry performed was a freakshow (they made the SAPS look like US navy seals, and trust me most cops on that range are bad with guns). Their idea of snapshooting is to aim at the target for half a minute and then shoot, LOL. They actually aimed down the barrel of a shotgun at a target 20metres away, you don't need to aim a shotgun like a hunting rifle when the target is right in front of your nose. And their officer though he was going to show off their talents. If SA were ever to be attacked by another country, we wouldn't stand a chance, hell even Lesotho can kick our asses. Report Abuse
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Sgandy
Incompetence and shufflingand reshufling of Ministers,how can within 4yrs we have 2 ministers of this important department,this country is really going down,but we only have ourselves to blame by insisting on electing leaders with no vision and knowledge of how to lead..change is a must or we doomed.Report Abuse
warry
Does the Shaik ring a sound in you? Durban will protect us. Let's look at this, Botswana is weak militarily, zimbabwe is cashless just asked for $100000 then Mozambique we married a wife there nobody attacks a son in law if he treats the wife well then Namibia we fought with them. Our enemy will get in by the side of cape Town, those guys there won't let them in there is lot of wine they will get drunk. In Durban we give them Currie with lot of spices they will be hungry and we kill them simple.Shaik is there also.Report Abuse
LBS
Is there ANYTHING that isn't collapsing under this useless government?Report Abuse
Mondi
What happened to one of the best Armies in the world!!??An Army who build some of the best weapons and had dissipline!!!
ANC-that's what happened.
Report Abuse
Serene
for as long as u have people that are politically appointed, that is certain to happen.Report Abuse
MorenaWaPolelo
This is not good, Zuma must fire defense Minister for not being vocal about asking for a bigger budget!!! This oversite is putting our lifes in danger!!! Sometimes deploying people without militatry experience to this positions can not be ignored!!!Report Abuse
|Sinudeity|
Lindiwe Sisulu, the most incompetent MP in all of South Africa.Report Abuse
Makhosini0408
|Sinudeity|Lindiwe Sisulu, the most incompetent MP in all of South Africa.
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Your forgot Modise, Lekota, Nqakula
Report Abuse
Papage
How much are the Black Soldiers salaries?Report Abuse
Moffdat
Can someone mention the fact that you really cannot afford to have a fat soldier, which most i see are!The women... sies man! Who are they going to defend if the can't even run???
Report Abuse
zino
there is no expert here...vacuumReport Abuse
Tronn
RSA no longer has an army. They have a bunch of fat useless over paid slobs that could not defend this country if they tried.If we stopped sending them for "holidays" in other country's as part of United Nations Peace keeping, then we would have sufficient manpower for our country and if good old army discipline was introduced,perhaps we could have a fighting force to be reckened with.
But as long as we have the good old ruling party, the army will simply deteriorate like all the other systems and institutions in this country.
Report Abuse
Zambuck
Mr Papage another black racist "How much are the Black Soldiers salaries" these pages are filled with black racists, they are not capable of seeing that the problem lies with the black racist ANC government, the utter contempt that it feels for the citizens of this country by its ongoing corruption scandals, incompetence and inability to govern in a responsible manner.Report Abuse
malemaforpresident
the Apartheid regime was having the most sophisticated army in the world now our lives are in danger they can not even protect our nuclear facilitiesReport Abuse
BlackSeed
How do you expect an Army and Police personnel to protect the whole country whereas they fail to protect a few in their radius?Politicians are like both soccer players and journalist; same questions and answers for decades, yet same problems.
Report Abuse
4man
Incompetent politicians is where it starts. An army with a union.....what a joke. South Africa is on a slippery slope, the politicians are stealing her blind. Look North to Nigeria to see SA in 10 years (collapsed infrastructure corrupt business dealings only dealing with natural resources, no manufacturing, no entreperneurship, corrupt politicians, sectarian fighting)....look North to Sierra Leone, Congo and Liberia to see South Africa in 20 years (warlords fighting, no government to speak of no law and order, no infrastructure people reduced to eating rats to stay alive).Report Abuse
Ndele01
@4man,You are so correct - but the real frustration is that the South African people have the privilege of voting for a ruling party - the power is in the hands of our citizens - not like many of our other African states.
I can bet you there are people who have commented here who still vote for the ANC. When you point a finger at someone else, then there are 4 fingers pointing at you(citizens) !
Those who have stopped voting take no responsibility for this country - just like the Zimbabweans did - the Zimbabweans decided it's easier to flee to South Africa. But where will we go ? Our only weapon is our vote - but it might be too late. If another political party takes over, then they have to first pay back the debt created by this party - it wil take 4 years of suffering to get back on track. Last night I saw Bushbuckridge owes Eskom R280 million ! Where has all the money gone to ?
Report Abuse
newsnexus
I'm not surprised. If you don't know the value of a rand how will you cope if the budget is simply increased? Overspending will remain a problem. With the previous government, the SADF was rated among the best in the world, now we are a laughing stock. The SANDF is a joke. Merely a holiday inn used by people to incompetent or stupid to get a real job. SADF was about serving and defending. SANDF is about getting paid to do nothing; or funding tertiary studies for almost immediate use in the private sector after quiting. Moffdat is right, our soldiers, especially the woman are not ready for war. Most are physically unfit, the others untrained or just slacked off during training and therefore useless. The accuracy of our average infantryman is horrifying, my platoon was forced to get our marksman badges (skutsman baldjie) or get permanent "paal PT" and latrine duty. Some soldiers were present at a shooting range the SAPS and some private individuals frequent. We regularly put the police to shame on the range and during combat shooting exercises (hence the police interest in the range); but the way the infantry performed was a freakshow (they made the SAPS look like US navy seals, and trust me most cops on that range are bad with guns). Their idea of snapshooting is to aim at the target for half a minute and then shoot, LOL. They actually aimed down the barrel of a shotgun at a target 20metres away, you don't need to aim a shotgun like a hunting rifle when the target is right in front of your nose. And their officer though he was going to show off their talents. If SA were ever to be attacked by another country, we wouldn't stand a chance, hell even Lesotho can kick our asses.Report Abuse
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