Wed May 22 00:53:07 SAST 2013

Five family members die after eating mushrooms

Sep 25, 2012 | Mhlaba Memela and Thando Mgaga | 51 comments

TRAGEDY has struck a Durban family after five of its members, including a 17-month-old baby, died after eating mushrooms believed to have been poisonous.

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Sep 25, 2012

Pointman

This happens every now and then. Some mushrooms are deadly and unless you know what you are doing, you should never pick wild mushrooms.
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Sep 25, 2012

warry

This is bad. Mushroom is nice especially on a pizza but I think they got wrong species especially if not bought at a shop but just picked up by the road side cause is mushroom. RIP.
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Sep 25, 2012

MGEEZ

What a tragedy!!!! may God comfort the bereaved.
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Sep 25, 2012

Mellow

Mushrooms? Am worried who would have thought

@Pointman so you saying there are some general dealers who sells poisonous mushees on purpose? Am sure the guy didnt pick them himself now thats a scarry thought some of us loves mushrooms

SAD may their souls RIP but what if its ot mushrooms that killed them? Cause of death is still unknown so why assume its mushees?

Poor xoli the galfriend who saw it fit to opt for vat n sit now they cant even send her home cause they dont know her family...
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Sep 25, 2012

Uncompromising

MGEEZ
What a tragedy!!!! may God comfort the bereaved

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Amen
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Sep 25, 2012

DJ-Winner

People must learn to differentiate between ikhowe and isiphawu. Isiphawu is black underneath and that black thing is poison. Healthy mushrooms only appear after thunderstorms and they are white underneath...
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Sep 25, 2012

svavava

yhoo , this is sad bo
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Sep 25, 2012

Pointman

@ Mellow - no, nobody will sell deadly poisonous mushrooms on purpose. Some drug smugglers cultivate and sell the ones which cause hallucinations to drug users. I am sure this poor guy picked these mushrooms himself.
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Sep 25, 2012

Printa

This is so sad. I know some mushrooms are poisonous. There must be a way to track where thr mushrooms came from.

All we know is that Xoli was from Lamontville, but we do not know her family
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Yeah, our ancestors must be turning in their graves in disgust.
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Sep 25, 2012

spirro

really sad
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Sep 25, 2012

Shredder

I only eat mushroom from the grocery stores or fruit and vegetables stores. I can't differentiate the poisonous one from the none poisonous ones so I'd probably pick the wrong ones if had to pick for myself.
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Sep 25, 2012

Punkies

I might sound horrible but from this article i believe this family was poor so maybe this guys resorted to poison all his family so they could rest from poverty. I mean why would he bring mushroom as have them cooked the same day? I don't know, its just my opinion.
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Sep 25, 2012

swona

it might have been the Chinnes mushrooms, is he working at the harbour? if he is it might have been samples without cooking instructions. RIP
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Sep 25, 2012

MommaC

DJ-Winner

That is a VERY dangerous way of determining poisonous mushrooms. There are a number of very poisonous mushrooms that have white gills.
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Sep 25, 2012

eltybots

eish dis is so sad
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Sep 25, 2012

CYBORICO

tragedy of the highest order this here, condolences to the rest of the family. I just wonder if Mkhize didnot still or pick up a bag of the so called magic mushrooms(as it is reported one of the girls said she was going crazy and ill at the same time), this is possible as he might have seen a dealer hide a bag only for him to find unknown mushrooms in it, and uknowingly he only saw "last dish" needs being fulfiled for the day.
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Sep 25, 2012

CYBORICO

DJ-Winner
People must learn to differentiate between ikhowe and isiphawu. Isiphawu is black underneath and that black thing is poison. Healthy mushrooms only appear after thunderstorms and they are white underneath...

MommaC
DJ-Winner

That is a VERY dangerous way of determining poisonous mushrooms. There are a number of very poisonous mushrooms that have white gills.

ya not the fgills r not the final criterion, but if the mushroom was not there prior to a storm and then its is now after the storm and has white gills and is the large mushroom type i bet u its the healthy one, i grew up picking these up, and the same said by DJ was said by the uncles, leave those with coloured gills(inkowankowane) and the small type as they r the poisonos ones, and they never waited for the thunder storm they will just grow.
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Sep 25, 2012

MommaC

CYBORICO

Unless someone has shown you the 'healthy' type and you are 100% positive you can identify it, it is best to just assume they are poisonous. You are lucky that you know exactly what they look like but even my dear gran used to be wary of some mushrooms as sometimes the good ones and the bad ones can look very similar.
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Sep 25, 2012

ntshware-ke-yawa

not every mushroom worth eating,some are poisonous and can kill you
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Sep 25, 2012

Moffdat

This is tragic. I hate mushrooms!
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Sep 25, 2012

DJ-Winner

MommaC
DJ-Winner

That is a VERY dangerous way of determining poisonous mushrooms. There are a number of very poisonous mushrooms that have white gills.
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Well, I'm not dead and people in my community have been using this method for years to determine the healthy mushrooms. And nobody has ever been killed by mushrooms in my community...

You never stayed in rural areas, so you have no idea what me and @CYBORICO are talking about here...


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Sep 25, 2012

Bdoobs

@DJ-Winner

People must learn to differentiate between ikhowe and isiphawu. Isiphawu is black underneath and that black thing is poison. Healthy mushrooms only appear after thunderstorms and they are white underneath...

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And what is inkonkowane? Ngiyalazi ikhowe kodwa isiphawu is news to me...
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Sep 25, 2012

MommaC

DJ-Winner

Do you know the popular definition of 'assumption'?

This is not about the knowledge of mushrooms, it is about you advising people that every mushroom with white gills is not poisonous. That is dangerous. If people don't know about mushrooms then you telling them they can eat any mushroom with white gills is irresponsible and dangerous. I use some mushrooms with white gills as medicine and they are poisonous if taken in large quantities or if you have certain illnesses, so don't start telling people that ANY mushroom with white gills is safe to eat or their death could be on your head
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Sep 25, 2012

DJ-Winner

Bdoobs
@DJ-Winner

People must learn to differentiate between ikhowe and isiphawu. Isiphawu is black underneath and that black thing is poison. Healthy mushrooms only appear after thunderstorms and they are white underneath...

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And what is inkonkowane? Ngiyalazi ikhowe kodwa isiphawu is news to me...
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inkonkowane ilokhu okumila kube kuningi endaweni eyodwa, kube amakhowe amancane. It also appears after thunderstorm. Isiphawu sona isithola esibayeni sezinkomo isikhathi esiningi and other fertile areas. It appears anytime regardless of whether there was a storm or not. It is dark or black in colour...
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Sep 25, 2012

DJ-Winner

MommaC
DJ-Winner

Do you know the popular definition of 'assumption'?

This is not about the knowledge of mushrooms, it is about you advising people that every mushroom with white gills is not poisonous. That is dangerous. If people don't know about mushrooms then you telling them they can eat any mushroom with white gills is irresponsible and dangerous. I use some mushrooms with white gills as medicine and they are poisonous if taken in large quantities or if you have certain illnesses, so don't start telling people that ANY mushroom with white gills is safe to eat or their death could be on your head
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I said it appears after a storm. If that white mushroom just appeard out of nowhere, then it should be suspicious...
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Sep 25, 2012

MommaC

DJ-Winner

Those button shaped mushrooms also appear directly after a thunder storm - don't for goodness sakes eat those!

Just be VERY careful of what you encourage people to do on an open forum. Just now, someone is silly enough to go out after a thunder storm, see a mushroom which has white gills and they will just pick it and take it home for in the stew. It is always best to discourage that. It is never safe to pick mushrooms unless you have been physically shown, by someone who knows, which are safe and you are completely sure you can recognise them
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Sep 25, 2012

DJ-Winner

@MommaC...I'm not dead. I still mantain my point that a white mushroom that appears after a storm is healthy...
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Sep 25, 2012

ladygaga

OMW this is really sad, may their souls rest in peace :-(
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Sep 25, 2012

MommaC

DJ-Winner

Because you KNOW what you are doing and you KNOW what they look like.

All I am saying is don't encourage a bunch of city kids to go out and pick mushrooms.
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Sep 25, 2012

Mokgaditse

@DJ-Winner

Chief, I am from Limpopo and know what you talking about, you are more than right my man. I am a leaving example. We also used to pick them "ko diolong" not sure about thw Zulu word but is a small like mountain build by ants with soil particles and fertile places after or during rainy season. Some o a tsebang gore seolo keng ka seZulu place help.
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Sep 25, 2012

spatch

There is not much room at the cemetary if you are poor, so where will they be buried?
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Sep 25, 2012

m'zaco'

nx eish this world....
Baloyi fela
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Sep 25, 2012

DrunkenMaster

That is terrible.
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Sep 25, 2012

spatch

I have some mushrooms in my gdn that look like they grew in a supermarket, you know those little white round ones, can I eat them?
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Sep 25, 2012

spatch

DJ-Winner

Umlungu mushroom is safe but black mushroom is dangerous?

I think I will name this mushroom I just found in my garden, the "Malema Mushroom"
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Sep 25, 2012

thinya

Another sad story in the morning, may their souls rest in peace.
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Sep 25, 2012

LIYANA

DJ-Winner
People must learn to differentiate between ikhowe and isiphawu. Isiphawu is black underneath and that black thing is poison. Healthy mushrooms only appear after thunderstorms and they are white underneath...
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Kwangathi ukhe walusa iinkomo njengami. He probably picked them up by himself and with little knowledge he had, he definitely picked the poisonous mushrooms. We have ikhowe and ikhowana or isiphawu and the latter is very poisonous.
Very sad in deed.........
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Sep 25, 2012

Mokgaditse

@DJ Winner

I have the name is Seolo is called isiduli in Zulu brother.
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Sep 25, 2012

LIYANA

The healthy mushroom grow "esithubini" ngesiNdebele, Mokgaditse referred to "diolong"in Sepedi. If it's not from there and didn't pop up after thunderstorm, it's not a healthy one.
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Sep 25, 2012

thinya

NO MORE MUSHROOM IN MY HOUSE
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Sep 25, 2012

MommaC

Just hope and pray that someone doesn't take all the 'advice' here and inadvertently picks a deathcap that coincidentally grew just after a thunder shower.

(I notice that not one of our 'experts' has warned about the cap skirt)
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Sep 25, 2012

somaartakeit

moral of the story don't eat wild mushrooms, in fact don't eat any wild plants unless you have some knowledge about wild plants, not everything is for consumption.
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Sep 25, 2012

Shredder

@DJ-Winner
MommaC

Well, I'm not dead and people in my community have been using this method for years to determine the healthy mushrooms. And nobody has ever been killed by mushrooms in my community...

You never stayed in rural areas, so you have no idea what me and @CYBORICO are talking about here...
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LOL. You are right. Whichever one that works. Africans have their way of knowing things without putting them in the lab. After MommaC testing those mushrooms that come after the storm in the lab, she will then believe that your method works. :)
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Sep 25, 2012

MommaC

Shredder
"Africans have their way of knowing things without putting them in the lab."

Really? What was this story about again? They must have missed the gene that gave that particular African knowledge :)
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Sep 25, 2012

Shredder

@MommaC
Just hope and pray that someone doesn't take all the 'advice' here and inadvertently picks a deathcap that coincidentally grew just after a thunder shower.
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These people(DJ Winner, CYBORICO and Mokgaditse) know what they are talking about. Unfortunately some of us don't know. I didn't live in the rural areas(North West) for a long time and I was still a little kid. I remember they (elders) used to discourage us from picking mushrooms. They said those were poisonous and they told us there were others that were not. Unfortunately I didn't get a privilege to stay longer in the rural areas to learn how to differentiate them. I think they were going to give me the same method to differentiate as DJ and Mokgaditse(one from KZN and one from Limpopo).

My problem with picking mushrooms after thunderstorm is that I can unknowingly pick the one that was there before the thunderstorm. :)



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Sep 25, 2012

Shredder

MommaC
Shredder
"Africans have their way of knowing things without putting them in the lab."

Really? What was this story about again? They must have missed the gene that gave that particular African knowledge :)
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Sep 25, 2012

MommaC

Shredder

That is why I was saying to DJ that giving info like that out on an open forum is dangerous. If you haven't been 'taught' what is okay or not, the chances of you picking a wrong one is pretty high
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Sep 25, 2012

Mokgaditse

MommaC
Shredder
"Africans have their way of knowing things without putting them in the lab."

Guys, in rural areas we used to eat many things that you may think are poisonous and we are still living.I think that is the reason why most of the old people were so strong and their imune system working strong as well. Hence the stament above above about the African. This happened inrespective of were you come from or nationality, that is a good thing. How the elders tasted it or how did they know that the others are poison and some not we don't.They had the labs in their minds maybe.
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Sep 25, 2012

Shredder

@Mokgaditse
MommaC
Shredder
"Africans have their way of knowing things without putting them in the lab."

Guys, in rural areas we used to eat many things that you may think are poisonous and we are still living.
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I don't doubt your method at all of differentiating them. All I am saying is you have to know exactly what you are doing. Obviously they don't look alike I guess and one might come after thunderstorms and one grown from the cattle kraal whatever, but you have to know exactly what you are doing. I don't doubt at all.

"They had the labs in their minds maybe. "
Or it might have killed someone :).
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Sep 25, 2012

MommaC

Mokgaditse

What is and is not good for you has been passed down through many generations. Normally, if a m*nkey can (or will) eat it then it is okay to eat - that is probably how we survived to get old enough to pass on information to begin with. Using Mother Nature as a portable laboratory :)

No human has some strange instinct as to what is poison and what isn't. It is all learned behaviours. When it comes to things like mushrooms and some other foods, you best hope to get a good teacher
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Sep 25, 2012

Mokgaditse

@Shredder

Quite right chief,
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