Sun May 19 13:18:29 SAST 2013

School pupil (17) arrested over murder

Sep 20, 2012 | Bafana Mahlangu and Lindile Sifile | 51 comments

A fight broke out during lunch break at school

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Sun May 19 13:18:30 SAST 2013 ::
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Sep 20, 2012

Chichi7

Why are school kids carrying weapons to school? Have they not learned anything from the mistakes others have made?
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Sep 20, 2012

McLoving

Eish! Kagiso again.
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Sep 20, 2012

RobinH

Whatever happened to fisticuffs in a circle of friends, where afew punches are traded and it's over. We South Africans are becoming the disease, and certainly nowhere near a cure, if this is allowed to happen.
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Sep 20, 2012

|Sinudeity|

Dang, the violence is insurmountable. Murderers in highschool...
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Sep 20, 2012

maneater

so the suspect was also stabbed? who stabbed him sowetan? could you not establish that because if he was stabbed during that fight it therefore changes the whole story. but in anycase robala ka gotso Khotso
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Sep 20, 2012

Mosquer

Nto yeo ga mo.tho m.o.s. A ba mo gapele bophelo ka moka and no b@il, otherw!se he is going to f!nish Thato
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Sep 20, 2012

MorenaWaPolelo

Eish this is hard for Parents, imagine you raise your kid for almost 21 years and he dies just like that!!! Public schools are out of control!!!!
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Sep 20, 2012

THEmadame2B-BBEE

Act1 Scene 1.
The incident happened after school, so let’s not assume that the suspect had already in a position of the knife during school hours, the assumption is that he might had gone home and fetched the knife as he realised that Thato had already called his brother (Khotso) for protection.
Act1 scene2.
Now the cause of death might have been from the suspect but form the knife wound which might had been deep enough to cause the death, or we might find out that he an illness that the wound further made it worse (although this does not imply that mean that the suspect will not be charged for culpable homicide)
Act 1. Scene 3
Mind you that the intention from the suspect was not to kill Thato, but just a threat because he did not say ‘I will kill you after school’, then that could had been another issue with the suspect implying that he was on a mission to kill that day

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Sep 20, 2012

Mdala

Give him to mob justice and you'll see wonderful results don't had him over to police
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Sep 20, 2012

MorenaWaPolelo


THEmadame2B-BBEE
Act 1. Scene 3
Mind you that the intention from the suspect was not to kill Thato, but just a threat because he did not say ‘I will kill you after school’, then that could had been another issue with the suspect implying that he was on a mission to kill that day
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So what is your point?
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Sep 20, 2012

THEmadame2B-BBEE

Chief
.......huh, ahg i just felt like writing that, nje, just,
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Sep 20, 2012

Kaylae

Rest in peace Khotso. I always say the ones that intervenes in fights always die uhmmm a death that was no meant to,young man you have become a murderer at 17 I feel for you cause this will change your life forever.You acted without thinking and now you'll pay the price
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Sep 20, 2012

Mosquer

@THEmadame2B-BBEE
Doesn't m@tter. he k!lled him. he is a k!ller who walks with knife at school.
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Sep 20, 2012

THEmadame2B-BBEE

it wasn't his intention, you will certainly hear in no time, that the suspect has good grades or a great student and hardly misses school
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Sep 20, 2012

MorenaWaPolelo

THEmadame2B-BBEE
it wasn't his intention, you will certainly hear in no time, that the suspect has good grades or a great student and hardly misses school
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Just leave it dear its beyond you and you are ramprasading now!!!
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Sep 20, 2012

jerico

since when do comments just disappear, i will strike against you sowetan.
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Sep 20, 2012

Hosh6

THEmadame2B-BBEE
Act1 Scene 1.
The incident happened after school, so let’s not assume that the suspect had already in a position of the knife during school hours, the assumption is that he might had gone home and fetched the knife as he realised that Thato had already called his brother (Khotso) for protection.
Act1 scene2.
Now the cause of death might have been from the suspect but form the knife wound which might had been deep enough to cause the death, or we might find out that he an illness that the wound further made it worse (although this does not imply that mean that the suspect will not be charged for culpable homicide)
Act 1. Scene 3
Mind you that the intention from the suspect was not to kill Thato, but just a threat because he did not say ‘I will kill you after school’, then that could had been another issue with the suspect implying that he was on a mission to kill that day
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Kak
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Sep 20, 2012

RobinH

madame: It wasn't his intention???? He picks up a knife and accidentally stuck it into someone.... Is that what you are saying?

jerico, that nonsense started in the beginning of the week and is reaching the most absurd proportions.
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Sep 20, 2012

Mxcm!!!

THEmadame2B-BBEE
it wasn't his intention....

Wasn't his intention? The boy drew the knife and came charging...if that's not a sign of intention to harm, then Lord knows what is.
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It's just a sad state of affairs when kids believe they can "sort" problems out through violence....

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Sep 20, 2012

RobinH

He said something I didn't like, so I went and found a knife, went up to him and stabbed him. It was an accident. Ja right.
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Sep 20, 2012

THEmadame2B-BBEE

it wasn't his intention to KILL, jerr, is julle mense stadig. I 'm saying it was right for the suspect to charge the victim with a knife, but his intention wasn't to kill, the victim died from 1 stab wound,
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Obviously we live a policed state so violence is synonymous with SA

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Sep 20, 2012

Robaletheka75

At the age of 17, you are already a murderer. What kind of the future are you investing in? Where are your fists? O le kwala ntho ke wena.
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Sep 20, 2012

DrunkenMaster

Another school violence that went horribly wrong and it is very painful. R.I.P
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Sep 20, 2012

THEmadame2B-BBEE

South African’s schools will become like Columbine
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Sep 20, 2012

RobinH

Madame, who is being slow here, Honey: Picking up a knife and sticking it into someone is a violent act, there is absolutely no rational way around that. And anyone with half a braincell knows that the risks are high. If you are seriously suggesting that using knives to settle schoolboy disputes is a good thing, or even vaguely civilised, then you have a greater problem than I have thought so far. Actually trying to justify this is sheer madness.
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Sep 20, 2012

THEmadame2B-BBEE

Robin, can u actually read between the lines, R E A D my comments carefully, did i say that what the suspect did was not violent! Did i say that?
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Sep 20, 2012

RobinH

Madame: Pfffft. Bye.
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Sep 20, 2012

Mosquer

This thing ya lwa ko sekolong e thomile kgale. In our time we were using our fists. School children will surround us and no weapon. They search you before fight, a pen, pencil, ruler, or any thing is taken from you and you left by yourself
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Sep 20, 2012

Mmaditopo

Speechless.
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Sep 20, 2012

legaleagle2

THEmadame2B-BBEE

Act1 Scene 1.
The incident happened after school, so let’s not assume that the suspect had already in a position of the knife during school hours, the assumption is that he might had gone home and fetched the knife as he realised that Thato had already called his brother (Khotso) for protection.
Act1 scene2.
Now the cause of death might have been from the suspect but form the knife wound which might had been deep enough to cause the death, or we might find out that he an illness that the wound further made it worse (although this does not imply that mean that the suspect will not be charged for culpable homicide)
Act 1. Scene 3
Mind you that the intention from the suspect was not to kill Thato, but just a threat because he did not say ‘I will kill you after school’, then that could had been another issue with the suspect implying that he was on a mission to kill that day
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what you are saying its neither here nor there......
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Sep 20, 2012

Mmaditopo

THEmadame2B-BBEE
Act1 Scene 1.
The incident happened after school, so let’s not assume that the suspect had already in a position of the knife during school hours, the assumption is that he might had gone home and fetched the knife as he realised that Thato had already called his brother (Khotso) for protection.
Act1 scene2.
Now the cause of death might have been from the suspect but form the knife wound which might had been deep enough to cause the death, or we might find out that he an illness that the wound further made it worse (although this does not imply that mean that the suspect will not be charged for culpable homicide)
Act 1. Scene 3
Mind you that the intention from the suspect was not to kill Thato, but just a threat because he did not say ‘I will kill you after school’, then that could had been another issue with the suspect implying that he was on a mission to kill that day
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Madame, i shamefully fall under the "slow" category- please explain the above sloowwllyy in simple English.

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Sep 20, 2012

ChampRef

No arguments as to how and when, the fact remain, he murdered someone. He had a knife all along. Poor boy only called his brother to escort him not to come and fight this bull.

TO KHOTSO's parents, tshedisega dear, May your son's soul rest in peace.
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Sep 20, 2012

zolanoble

We always encourage pupils to attend government schools and yet politicians and other rich people in this country don't even send their kids to these schools. Let me tell you one thing that the middle class and rich people here are laughing at the stupidity of these little thugs whom we sometimes praise for being cool. There is nothing cool about killing other people. We are worse than animals because they kill to feed and yet we kill to inflict pain on other families. To show that we are really a messed up country we don't lock up all these killers because we claim that there is not enough evidence. I guess you will be looking for evidence if it was your child who was butchered by senseless criminals. Anyway, these kids don't have anyone to look up to. Teachers are dating school kids, politicians can get away with corruption, parents sleep with their own kids. Based on this you can tell that we live in a sick society. Schools were once regarded as places of exploring new ideas and gain more knowledge but today it is a battle field. For what? South Africa ask yourself, how long are we still going to allow these barbaric acts in our country. We can't walk freely in our own neighbourhoods because we are scared of little Lucifers. Wake up mzantsi, wake up.
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Sep 20, 2012

Nwingi

Oh god! THEmadame2B-BBEE or whoever you are!

Wake up and smell the danger! When the suspect said they'll 'meet after school', he new what he meant. How can you say probably he went home to get a knife? These kid carry them knives to school for gad's sake!

Thanks to "Zolanoble", you've said a mouthfull!!!!
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Sep 20, 2012

Hosh6

Mxcm!!!
My e-mail add hosh2$6@gmail.com
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Sep 20, 2012

Ratshufi

hi future is now fd up criminal record at 17
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Sep 20, 2012

Mxcm!!!

Hosh6

Are you sure about that?
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Sep 20, 2012

Ornate

Act1 scene2.
Now the cause of death might have been from the suspect but form the knife wound which might had been deep enough to cause the death, or we might find out that he an illness that the wound further made it worse (although this does not imply that mean that the suspect will not be charged for culpable homicide)
So u are gud at your acts and scenes, so what if it was your brother, whether illness or what, we talking about someone's live here. I think Yizoyizo might be impressed with your Acts and Scenes.

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Sep 20, 2012

dmstephen

"The senior prosecutor was not satisfied with the information in the docket and asked for further investigation before the case could be placed on the roll," prosecutor Engela Lizette Welgemoed said.
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WTF what do they mean they dont have enough evidence O_O
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Sep 20, 2012

MmaSeshego

THEmadame2B-BBEE
Act1 Scene 1.
Themadam2B-BBEE
Act1. Scene 3
The incident happened after school, so let’s not assume that the suspect had already in a position of the knife during school hours, the assumption is that he might had gone home and fetched the knife as he realised that Thato had already called his brother (Khotso) for protection
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Later in class the suspect allegedly threatened to seek Thato out after school. Thato called his brother and asked him to escort him home. The fight outside the school premises allegedly started when Khotso arrived and tried to intervene

THE FIGHT OUTSIDE THE SCHOOL PREMISES STARTED WHEN KHOTSO ARRIVED AND TRIED TO INTERVENE. Where does he get the time to go home to get a knife? Why would the siblings stay and wait for him to return? He's a murderer and that's that
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Sep 20, 2012

MmaSeshego

aowa hle Madam... Hundreds of other people have died from just a single stab wound. There's no prescribed number of wounds it should take to kill somebody
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Sep 20, 2012

Nongoloza24

Kagiso kasi ya dikasi
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Sep 20, 2012

THEmadame2B-BBEE

@Seshego
i said it’s a scenario......for all we know that knife might had not belonged to the suspect or maybe it belonged to the friend, we are all making assumptions here including you because we were not at the scene, hence the title of the comments

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Sep 20, 2012

SKINNY

Go Senyegile!!
let the mother go to LIMPOPO to consult.
because the courts will never give Her JUSTICE.
Blood for Blood, Setopo Ka Setopo !!
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Sep 20, 2012

misscm02

Iyoo Madame I think u shud'nt hv written scenarios as you kindly put it. U could've just sympathised with da family & left it @ dat. Bottom line is Someone lost his life kant n klaar
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Sep 20, 2012

NeoBaBe

@Mdala
Seconded..
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Sep 20, 2012

ttk17

This is heart breaking bathong what is wrong our kids, Robala ka kgotso Kgotso
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Sep 20, 2012

RobinH

SKINNY: "Blood for Blood, Setopo Ka Setopo !!" You stuck in the Old Testament, or what?

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Sep 20, 2012

MmaSeshego

misscm02
Iyoo Madame I think u shud'nt hv written scenarios as you kindly put it. U could've just sympathised with da family & left it @ dat. Bottom line is Someone lost his life kant n klaar
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Amen! u may write 10 million scenarios and its not gonna change the fact that he killed a person. He drew a knife and charged at him stabbig him in the upper body... what was he thinking would happen?
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Sep 20, 2012

Nwingi

@THEmadame2B-BBEE

You make me sick!. your reasoning is smaller than that of a nut! My first child (son) is 21yrs, and this story touches my inner being a lot. And then we have people like you commenting like it's a movie or some sick joke? Damn!
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Sep 21, 2012

akpu4

If you cannot feel protected then you may be tempted to protect.
Some mothers secretely train their kids to cherish violence. He should have walked on after being stoned or at least fight his own battle.
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