mashima?

Aowa hle bathong, people always need sympathy from others, everybody have his/her own home of origin. If I'm staying here due to employment condition if the work is furnished i have to go back home. Gape maropeng go 'a boelwa, ke teng go sa boelweng. A gone mtho o a seng gagabo hle

I'm sorry my sympathy is furnished.
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cornelius

This is what will happen in a Zim style land grab as well.
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TooTrue

The Royal Bafokeng Administration now owns the land, but does not farm the land? This meant that they knew all along that those workers would be without work and lost to the farming industry when they bought it. Why did they not continue farming? Why did those farms go to waste? This does not make sense at all.
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spatch

A plan to relocate them to other Bafokeng villages was communicated [to] and accepted by these families," she whispered in a very quiet voice so no one else could hear..

LOL
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spatch

You can bet yer bottom dollar that the Royal BafferKings family are living royally lifestyles.
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spatch

The world’s leading platinum producer Anglo Platinum (Angloplat) confirmed on Friday that it had reached agreement with the Royal Bafokeng Nation, which would enable South Africa’s wealthiest indigenous tribe to take a majority interest...


South Africa’s wealthiest indigenous tribe
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Mrazane

If we want proper resolution to these issues we need to be very honest with ourselves as Africans... we are failing to manage the country and even simple farms. Let us admit that and work on fixing it. In Tzaneen there are similar farms...
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Moffdat

cornelius
This is what will happen in a Zim style land grab as well.
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Royal Bafokeng is a private entity!! Don't talk through your rear-end kiddo.
Grab a book.
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|Sinudeity|

And here we thought the distribution of the farms would make the people on the ground wealthier... All I see is 800 people out of work...
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Moffdat

|Sinudeity|
I blame the farmer who saw a big chunk of cash and left his employees high and dry!!!
TYPICAL! Now another black person has to fix a white guys mess. Nelson Mandela, Barack Obama, Halie Salasie I and the list goes on and on!

You people can't keep messing up the world and expecting us to fix it for you!
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|Sinudeity|

Moffdat - Still blaming the farmer? Even though, its quite obvious, it was the new black owner that let the employees down. Even promised to relocate them, but didnt...
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|Sinudeity|

Moffdat - Its "you people" that keep f***ing it up dude.
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Moffdat

|Sinudeity|
You whites can't keep living like this expecting us to bail you out.

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Moffdat

From Apartheid to the Vigilante's of the Roman empire! The mess you caused in Egypt, Alexandria!
Brazil with the mayans and now the world economy! Everytime you mess up you call on us to bail you out.
You whites and your gre.ed is going to be the end of us all!!!!
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Mbeki_2

Moffdat - are you serious Bra?? Farmers are told they must sell their farms to increase our ownership of our land. The new black owners in most places are NOT farming mare how can you blame whites for selling the farm??? Are you just trolling here?
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|Sinudeity|

Moffdat - Whenever you stub your toe, failed an exam, did you also blame the white man?

Which colour is Merkel (Bailing out Europe)?
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Mmaditopo

How can human beings live in a place like that? All this while some people are worried about the national anthem.
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DA-DBN-GUY

Willing buyer and willing seller is not the problem. the problem is selling the farms to ijits who dont know how to run them or even what to do with the land.
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KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

Ahaaaa look what whites do to our people, nee dit is kaak.
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|Sinudeity|

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe - LOL, it was the blacks that did this to your people, nee, dit is kaaaak :P
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DA-DBN-GUY

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

DIPSHIT!!!! " the Bafokeng nation" DOES THAT SOUND LIKE WHITES TO YOU.
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KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

Kekkekekkekekkekekkekekekekekekekeke these guys.
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|Sinudeity|

Eish, the farmers cant win. Lambasted for not selling their farms. When they do, they get lambasted for the workers who are now unemployed. Make up your f***ing minds duuumb@sses.
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candilious

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
Ahaaaa look what whites do to our people, nee dit is kaak.
________________________________________________Accountability not your strong suite hey
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KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

@candilious

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe
Ahaaaa look what whites do to our people, nee dit is kaak.
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Accountability not your strong suite hey
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Kakkakakkakakkakakkakakka I was just provoking big brothers up there Candy.

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Lord-Have-Mercy

Royal Bafokeng!!!
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Pieksie007

Eish..always the white mans fault..shame.
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DA-DBN-GUY

So once again we have imperical proof that the blacks dont take care of the blacks and yet Im sure apartheid will be blamed for this some how. Why is Fat One not making a noise about this issue? Because he will not benefit from it. he says he cares about the poor? Let him prove it by taking on the Bafokeng Royals!!
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kukatsakolobe

Nkadimeng wa Rustenburg, aowa Tau boela gae Seokodibeng o wa bona batswana a ba na mogau.
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malemaforpresident

12 Years to relocate 800 families Minah Wanya ftsheek the process could take only a month to comple Nxaaa
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Peter Manzana said the municipality had agreed to provide the community with water on Tuesdays and Fridays
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Peter listen you get running fresh water 24/7 in your house these poor people get water on Tuesday and Friday then what about other days are they not supposed to bath daily mara blacks are fools why do you do this to your fellow brothers and sisters where is your conscience this is satanic

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cornelius

@Moffdat - the principle is that productive farmland was handed to people without the necessary planning, proper transfer of skills etc, and it was f.cked up. Take a pill for you sore toe, even if you can't get medicine for your irrational hatred for w.hite people.
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Papage

"Flora Ranou, a mother of six children and grandmother to 10"

Eish Black people, if they dont have work to do, they just make kids, so many and yet no income, why let the kids suffer?
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spatch

Appears dat moffdat can not read without his glasses......

A plan to relocate them to other Bafokeng villages was communicated [to] and accepted by these families," she whispered in a very quiet voice so no one else could hear..

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Smaiza

@|Sinudeity|
Eish, the farmers cant win. Lambasted for not selling their farms. When they do, they get lambasted for the workers who are now unemployed. Make up your f***ing minds duuumb@sses.
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Ohk Sinudeity, I dnt want to blame farmer (seller) and the buyer.

But if you can answer the following question for me:

Is there any Pension money farmers gave to this poor people?

Is there any Provident funds farmers gave to this poor people?

Are these poor people being registered for UIF by their farmers?

REMEMBER IM NOT BLAMING, JUST MY THOUGHTS.

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|Sinudeity|

Smaiza - Legally, only the UIF you mentioned is required by the farmer. Pension/Provident funds, medical aid, would depend on the agreement between the farmer and the worker. Taking into account, that the worker would have to pay half for P/P or medical aid.


But lets look at it this way.
Working for farmer, had a job, and received pay.
Not working for farmer, no job and no pay.
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MommaC

"Every day, most of the residents can be found basking in the sun with their hungry-looking children playing around them and the elderly drinking sorghum beer."

You can make sorghum beer but you can't remember enough about farming to grow some veggies for those kids? The gods help them what helps themselves.
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Smaiza

@|Sinudeity|
Smaiza - Legally, only the UIF you mentioned is required by the farmer. Pension/Provident funds, medical aid, would depend on the agreement between the farmer and the worker. Taking into account, that the worker would have to pay half for P/P or medical aid.


But lets look at it this way.
Working for farmer, had a job, and received pay.
Not working for farmer, no job and no pay.

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I understand your point, but still how much these poor people were getting paid?

Sinudeity- Even before the farmer was purchased, these poor people did not leave better. The evidence is the farmer did not have proper sanitation according to the article.
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MommaC

Smaiza

The article says they were moved off of the farms so we don't know if they had sanitation there. It also says they were offered a place to stay but they don't want to go there.
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|Sinudeity|

Smaiza - "but still how much these poor people were getting paid?"

More than what they are getting paid now.
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Smaiza

@|Sinudeity|
Smaiza - "but still how much these poor people were getting paid?"

More than what they are getting paid now.
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Where do they work?
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Smaiza

@MommaC
Smaiza

The article says they were moved off of the farms so we don't know if they had sanitation there. It also says they were offered a place to stay but they don't want to go there.

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There were supposed to be moved.......but they refused to leave the place cause its too far were they wanted to be placed. The article say so.
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|Sinudeity|

Smaiza - They are unemployed now.
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|Sinudeity|

Smaiza - "There were supposed to be moved.......but they refused to leave the place cause its too far were they wanted to be placed."


So, the farmer has to come back and build housing, schools and toilets for them?
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cirrus

Clearly the ANC is not interested in returning the land to the people. They only use land reform to make money for themselves from the government pay-outs and to drive whites off their land to show they are the boss.
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MommaC

Smaiza

Too far from what?
As far as I can see from the article, they are in the middle of nowhere with nothing in every direction.
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misslegal

and yet we are calling for nationalisation when we cant even take care of the people of this land. every1 is out for themselves and t is survival of the fittest
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misslegal

@moffdat...shutup please...no offence but at least the white people were doing something with the land. us blacks we get the land and what do we do with it, still complain. we must just get over this sense of entitlement
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Boogie1985

Yah neh, Economic freedom in our life time i hear them talk of land redistribution without compensation. Fact is: TAKE THE FARMS FROM THOSE WHO USE THEM PRODUCTIVELEY AND WE ARE GOING TO STARVE, why??????????????? read the article again!
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BlackSeed

Meditation, shelter, food, clothes and lifespan will continue to be provided by nature because wicked man can never defeat that course; even under difficult situations. Yes, not so flashy, yet sufficient to sustain Livity.
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9janavy

South Africa, a once great country that is now being destroyed by it's own native people out of greed ,selfishness, stubbornness and acute stupidity.The current situation of this country is heartbreaking.As much as i will like to stand up tall and defend Africans ,i can no longer live a lie.

We Africans have failed woefully as a continent ,a people and a race.52 countries blessed with natural resources but we still continue to live like paupers.We can not even manage our households talk less of managing a country.Maybe we are indeed cursed as a race.It is high time we sit and talk to one another.We need to admit our failure and work on fixing even if it mean allowing another race to run our nations in the interim because that is one thing we just can't get right.

I watched a rick ross video (Hold me back) on Youtube yesterday which was shot in Lagos Nigeria.The video has caused controversy on Tweeter and Facebook.Many Nigerians took offence to video but i did not because the video exposed the realities of the country.The truth must be told about Africa if we want to progress as a race.Due to all these self imposed problems facing SA right now ,i have started making back up plans to migrate elsewhere.I thought SA will never fall like this but i am starting to see the writing on the wall and i don't want to be here when the sh1t really hits the fan.I love this country and i feel so sad that it's own citizens who fought for their own freedom with sweat & blood are now intentionally sabotaging their own country.

Here is the video i am talking about :

youtube.com/watch?v=m9Xcs-78Xpo


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9janavy

"Every day, most of the residents can be found basking in the sun with their hungry-looking children playing around them and the elderly drinking sorghum beer."

You can make sorghum beer but you can't remember enough about farming to grow some veggies for those kids? The gods help them what helps themselves.
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@MommaC

You took the words right out of my mouth.All my people are good at is making babies ,getting drunk and lazying around.They worked on those farms for decades but are too stupid to use the basic farming skills they learnt to operate a garden farm around their homes which will feed them and their multitude of kids. (sigh)You know what? I have had enough,i give up on black people.All we do is point fingers,no initiative ,no common sense, just a "give me" mentality.
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