MorenaWaPolelo

Congrats to all of you who were elected unopposed, lets do the samething in Mangaung Viva!!!!
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ancnduntsu

I thought Mshosholozi was using viagra to boost his spear.
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Ukadebona

Viva !!

United we stand! Progress !
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Tango

I see the same thing happening in Mangaung
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MorenaWaPolelo

ancnduntsu
What are you on about?
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hell

I have cancelled my NUM membership last week.
The reason is that I feel they don’t represent me anymore.
So far what the interim committee at Lonmin what they have achieve as write now surpass all the settlement that NUM has ever achieve on the mine. Let alone the current deal that was the workers we still tied by NUM.

I think the way forward is just to form a temporary committee every time when salary negotiations are to start in every company. unions failed us, is a fact

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Phathuza

Cosatu is at it again , Zuma is not fit for the office finish and klaar and I wont vote for that man
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Muzic

Boost for zuma??????? what boost? how many of those ppl will voting in mangaung come on man.
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NDA

Something fishy.
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somaartakeit

Sowetan get your facts right, zuma second term is supported by sdumo dlamini not Cosatu as you claim. Most anc leaders with exception of kzn and FreeState are against zuma's second term, with/out the malema saga solemnly on his performance as a party and country leader. Malema is just a side show of the mess the anc has become.
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Papage

The President of the Country and Labour movement Secretary, Vavi is the next to get a top post in Government, watch the space, after ANC conference, he will be one of the ministers, he will be the next Labour minister.
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Ntumbane

Though I am not a Zuma fan but for keeping Malema and his allies @ Bay I would support a second term for Zuma. That Boy is so insane that he doesn`t even realise that he is risking the closure of Lonmin. I couldn`t help watching ENCA last night over and over again when he was being humiliated in the eyes of the whole world. Zuma`s second means the end of Malema.

If I had my way I would lodge for Monthlante for president but at the same time urge him to kick the hell of out Malema`s A##s.Hawks start doing your job.Speed up your investigations.People don`t get me wrong, have nothing against Malema as an ordinary citizen, but his ideas and ideologies are nothing but misleading.
He is busy misleading the mine workers who are now in their 6th week illegal strike.Hunger is tormenting these miners while Malema after talking r@#$h he goes back and dine in upmarket restraunts forgetting those poor souls in makeshift dwellings @ Marikana.
Nathi send your your Constables to arrest this naughty boy for inciting violence and throw away the keys.
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MGEEZ

Vavi and company represent their own political interest and that should send a clear message to the workers throughout this country. How do you have a union that has an alliance with the employer? Who in the process gets to be compromised???
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KAWUKHONJWA

My applauding to COSATU to silence the prophecy of doom and self imposed intellects in the country.
Woza suku lamaqiniso siyoke sibone ngobani amaqhawe.
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Mdala

MSHINI WAM IN PROGRESS
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somaartakeit

@MGEEZ
Vavi and company represent their own political interest and that should send a clear message to the workers throughout this country. How do you have a union that has an alliance with the employer? Who in the process gets to be compromised???
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You so nailed it but sdumo is the one pushing for zuma's second term on the basis of tribalism, that's why I think Prof Pityana was right when he said SA is in run by a tribalist clique.
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Mgaraji

@somaartakeit
Stick to analysing DA & FFP of your choice which you are good at and refrain from analysing ANC politics. You do not understand it and you have no flipping clue of how the ANC operate. All what you are saying is just what you want to hear and to tell you my dear it far from the truth. When we keep on saying the same thing day in day out, we end up believing it is the truth.
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DrunkenMaster

I think in this modern age almost all the labour unions have lost their grip so they must simply be abolished. They earn thousands of rands for doing nothing. As for JZ it is over buddy.
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somaartakeit

@DrunkenMaster mind you if his party would be foolish enough to vote for his second term, it will be better for opposition parties as they will be the ones gaining more votes.
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KILLERa1111

@ - Muzic, If u wana talk maths let do it...Fine Cosatu their are just observers in the elective conference...

I have no doubt that Zuma is likely to get full support ( 90.%) from these 3 provinces ( KZN, Mpumalanga & Free State) which makes 30% of eligable voting deligates...

Assuming Zuma is gona get 0% in Limpopo and Gauteng which i doubt it will ever happen. As we speak we know that Limpopo elective conference results the winner margin of win was less than 2%..

EC is divided fine the oppossing to Zuma second term won but what was the margin 52% vs 48%..

judging by the numbers i can tell you that Zuma is gona take this one...

Watch the space i dont think deputy president will contest Zum, he will not take that chance come 1st Oct
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Vhamsanda

Sdumo is now in the right position to trade- in his old corolla for a 7 series BMW.
Congrats bru , you worked hard for it.
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Deiza

Zuma has failed dismally as an ANC leader & RSA leader, we were naive to expect good leadership from this shallow character. He is the worst president of the ANC to date. It's scary that he wants us to be stuck with him for the next four years. The man is a usefull idiot for Blade & his cabinet.
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Lord-Have-Mercy

Mangaung is going to be like this!!

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hell

@ Mgaraji
@somaartakeit
Stick to analysing DA & FFP.......

What makes you think you know better than everyone, and you had the guts to tell other people what they should concentrate on analysing? You should be ashamed of your level of thinking. Wonder why ANC is failing is because of people like you who can’t engage in a matured manner.
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KAWUKHONJWA

@somaartakeit
Your Prof or DR Pityana is one who is trabalist when Mbeki was not engaging the workers and rural people for their development did say anything nothing. He once invited by the late Steve Biko in the black community projects Biko ended apologing to involve people with the police who were not part of black consciousness. Now these days such people make alot of nuisance noise, just empty tins. what are they doing for south africa except sitting in the comfortable seats within their favourite institutions illiciting their academic rhetoric, they just getting fats and unhealthy every day.South Africa to change for better from all these ill attacks especially from its own people need the real and original people. In this case JZ is my choice.
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Mgaraji

@Muzic

8 out of 10 Cosatu members are card carrying members of the ANC, more especially shopstewards that are participating in the conference. 8 out of 10 members are actively involved in ANC branches. 8 out of 10 will be delegates in Mangaung as ANC card carrying members not on behalf of Cosatu. @KILLERa1111
You analysis is correct. Politics is about numbers.
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somaartakeit

@hell

@ Mgaraji
@somaartakeit
Stick to analysing DA & FFP.......

What makes you think you know better than everyone, and you had the guts to tell other people what they should concentrate on analysing? You should be ashamed of your level of thinking. Wonder why ANC is failing is because of people like you who can’t engage in a matured manner.
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Hence I didn't bother to respond to his rhetoric cause really its brain numbing considering that we have real issues to hand as citizens we shld engage each other on.

Anyway nice seeing you ppl, must now dash.
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ThirdEye

I'm glad Vavi is still incharge, but I also don't think it true that Cosatu will be united going to Mangaung. Not all of them want Zuma to serve the second term.
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sh!tFaceSamsung

@soetwn u got it wrong : zooma will be booted out in mangaung :
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Mgaraji

hell

@ Mgaraji
@somaartakeit
Stick to analysing DA & FFP.......

What makes you think you know better than everyone, and you had the guts to tell other people what they should concentrate on analysing? You should be ashamed of your level of thinking. Wonder why ANC is failing is because of people like you who can’t engage in a matured manner.
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Sorry if it sound bad but I did not mean to hurt anyone nor showing off but hilighting the fact that her analysis was subjective.
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H-Star

THERE GOES THE ANC VOTES AGAIN......DO THEY REALY THINK ZUMA WILL TAKE THIS COUNTRY FORWARD.
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Phathuza

ANC PRESIDENT IS NOMINATED AND ELECTED BY THE BRANCHES NOT BY COSATU , SHOWER MAN SHOULD FOCUS ON MAKING BABIES AND GETTING MARRIED EVERY YEAR USING HIS OWN MONEY NOT TAX PAYERS MONEY ABZ
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Silo4G

JZ is not perfect but he is doing a Gud job!!
He must get a second term in Mangaung.
All you JZ haters are being missled by the press and Juju!!
in Mangaung JZ's MSHINI will estaminate Juju and all Juju's blady agents!
Viva Msholozi Viva!!
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Gusheshe

Even if the Gigling Fool from Inkandla retain his position unopposed @Mangaung, the fact is people on the ground are fed up with anc and that will be a good opportunity for DA to garner more votes and i will personaly campaing for Da in the area i live in. Im just fed up with anc to such an extend that even if they topple this Inkandla fellow in Mangaung i wont bother making my cross next their logo im done with Anc
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ChampRef

Viva Comrade Zwelinzima Vavi viva,
Viva Comrade Sdumo viva,

VIVA MY PRESIDENT ZUMA VIVA,
Mayibuye, iANC, Masibuye isithunzi se ANC masibuye,

VIVA SECOND TERM FOR ZUMA, viva
Ha a tshwarwe malema ha a tshwarwe,

COME MANGAUNG, ZUMA FOR PRESIDENT
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Moffdat

We cannot handle another half a decade with Zuma at the helm. people we know it's politics but please that's enough... before we buy guns and start a war. I can tell you 20 things worth fighting for under this administration. Supporting the ANC is making us look like uneducated, corruption supporting, incestuous individuals. The only reason we vote for you is because of the past and not present credentials. With so many people in the ANC who could replace this guy another 5 years would be nothing more than a vote showing how 'okay' we are with the impression being created.

Tired of being lead by people without qualifications, understanding or intellect!!!!!!!!
If MOFFDAT tired i cannot begin to imagine how others without the necessary insight are feeling????
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MissBhakajuju

this is ma.d.ness @ its best... S.A leaders put their interest first.... zuma, is lost in a campaigning trip, he doesn't even care

what goes around in this country, to him its just about retaining his position, nothing else..... same with Vavi.


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Mbongo

Congratulations progressive forces of our revolution. When we unite reactionary forces step up their efforts to divide us. Lets not forget that when we took over power from racist South Africa, enemies of the progressive movements did not fade away. they still exist and other are even card carrying members of our progressive movements. Lets identify them and dismiss them from our ranks.

Amandla!
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Dandan

@Ntumbane


nsiligwane manyandeni ilapho nje well said Zuma for sec term we want to see this funny pe.di dy.ing slow by slow , zulus will teach it a w.ar
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Dandan

@somaartakeit
Sowetan get your facts right, zuma second term is supported by sdumo dlamini not Cosatu as you claim. Most anc leaders with exception of kzn and FreeState are against zuma's second term, with/out the malema saga solemnly on his performance as a party and country leader. Malema is just a side show of the mess the anc has become.
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you must be smoking nyaope , zumas campaign has been boasted by malemas hatred of NUM
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Gusheshe

Zoolu retards
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Lamakeketa

Mangaung will be ANC conference not COSATU or SACP the man with more rights than other citizens will be challenged at Mangaung. Can you imagine JZ being our president for another five years. The sooner we get rid of JZ the better for beloved ANC and SA
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Mgwijikhwebu

Good results indeed. Zuma all the way.... Who cares what the tribalist Prof. Pityana has to say? We know his true colours. It is a case of the pot calling the kettle black. How convenient Prof. and your like minded believers.
One thing I have learned about people who label others as tribalist are actually VERY tribalist themselves. These tribalist are a big danger to SA, they can take the country backwards and lead us to a civil. Hence they must be ignored. Zuma and ANC has done very well so far in that regard.

Prof. Pityana and the rest of the Mbekites should concentrate on resuscitating COPE and leave Zuma and his ANC alone. They lost in Polokwane, they must just deal with it. Otherwise if they fail to do likewise Mangaung will even be more painful.
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Dandan

Lamakeketa
Mangaung will be ANC conference not COSATU or SACP the man with more rights than other citizens will be challenged at Mangaung. Can you imagine JZ being our president for another five years. The sooner we get rid of JZ the better for beloved ANC and SA
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You just show yourself you are nt a member of anc you are a follower, sympathiser, your statement is very ignorant, knows nothing about business of anc, similar to Malema who is busy appearing of people wont be in mongaung.

Let me give you umhabulo, members of cosatu are thery same members of sacp/anc we talk about dual membership, sibhanx tseu, know about alliance
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Gusheshe

Waiting for Mangaung is a waste of time the man should be recalled even today
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tefson

if Zuma becomes a president again i will exercise my rights and one of those rights is staying away from the voting poll.
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MissBhakajuju

@Mgwijikhwebu

wena Kwerekwere ndini, what does Mbeki have to do with Showerhead & Mangaung campaign ???

don't expose your s.tupidiy Nkwenkwana, uyeva ????


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P4T

JZ is set to get his second term at Mangaung but the ANC is set to lose a lot of votes and significant provinces at the polls. It will likely obtain 55% but never ever the two thirds majority it wishes to obtain. People on the ground are feeling let down because of high unemployment, poverty rates and a scurge of hopelessness toward the government whilst their leaders are thriving under corruption.

Very few of the previous ANC manifesto promises have been met by government and people's patience is lost which is why opportunists like Julius are thriving.
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Mgaraji

P4T
JZ is set to get his second term at Mangaung but the ANC is set to lose a lot of votes and significant provinces at the polls. It will likely obtain 55% but never ever the two thirds majority it wishes to obtain. People on the ground are feeling let down because of high unemployment, poverty rates and a scurge of hopelessness toward the government whilst their leaders are thriving under corruption.

Very few of the previous ANC manifesto promises have been met by government and people's patience is lost which is why opportunists like Julius are thriving.
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Heard this song before. Same song sung in every election.
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Makhosini0408

The struggle for a better life for some continues unabated. Its time for Zuma to leave us in peace. Sekwanele manje. Enough is enough.
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Gusheshe

@P4T

You summed it up nicely
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Moffdat

Whatever happened to assassinating presidents????

Just kidding... ha ha ha lol. but if there ever was a man who should get assassinated! I'm not saying it would be JZ but i can't think of a better candidate!
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DA-DBN-GUY

Vavi you are such a fukken hypocrit and sellout dude! You say you are against corruption and yet climb into bed with the chief of the corruption squad!! anc and COSATU make me sick. The unholy alliance is killing this country quickly and mercilessly
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MissBhakajuju

Moffdat
Whatever happened to assassinating presidents????

Just kidding... ha ha ha lol. but if there ever was a man who should get assassinated! I'm not saying it would be JZ but i can't think of a better candidate!
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ROTFLMAO........ hahahahahahahaahahah....... tltltltlttll..... Dude u bad *American Accent*
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ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat

This is definitely lazy thinking and superfluous journalism. How is the retention of all office bearers a boost for Jacob Zuma when we all know that COSATU is not as united as it was before Polokwane? And in any case anyone who is at the Conference will know that Zwelinzima Vavi who is said to be disillusioned with Jacob Zuma, commands more support among shop stewards than that former nurse orginally from Swaziland, S'dumo Dlamini. So, it is disingenuous to see the retention of the leadership as a boost for Zuma rather than a boost for COSATU unity.

However, the retention of the COSATU leadership seems to have led to some naive expectation on the part of Jacob Zuma who seems to suggest that the Top 6 of the ANC should be retained. This is despite the crisis of leadership in the ANC and country, with him being at the helm. The right of ANC branches to assess and determine leadership cannot be taken away will nilly by desperate but useless politicians who just want to cling to power, but have very little to show for it. Internal democracy democracy and contestation in the ANC should not be confused with factionalism and disunity. The ANC can only emerge stronger from its Conference if it rids itself of "dead wood" and leaders who just do not have the competencies to deliver to the masses (except the ability to sing and dance). The unfortunate thing is that even the most incompetent and hopeless of leaders in the ANC think that they have the automatic right to a second term. They forget that whenever the ANC elects its leaders they are elected for a term of five years, with ANC branches appraising their performance. If the overwhelming branches in the Eastern Cape, Gauteng, Limpopo, North-West, Western Cape and Northern Cape nominate Kgalema Motlanthe as president, there is no reason why he should not sign the nomination form. Freistata and Mpumalanga are very small to make any difference in the scheme of things. As for KZN, even the most hopeless of candidates is expected to carry his home province.
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Muzic

@Killera111
That is not factually correct, I'm saying that because where I come from this issue was debated and we challenged COSATU combrates about it when we were struggling to reach a 1000 000 membership b4 the centennail year of the ANC. We were urguing that COSATU wants to dictate terms in the ANC but are failing to convince their members to join the ANC. If 80% of COSATU membership were paid-up members of the ANC as u put it, we would be sitting at about 1,8m members. But the margin of membership between the 2 organisations points otherwise, COSATU is @ 1,3m members while the ANC is @ 1m audited membership.
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P4T

@ Mgaraji. Ever heard people in the rural villages and squatter camps say: 'Asidli ipolitiki'? At the end of the day people want means to feed, clothe and educate their families and kids. Politicians when they are not in touch with the realities of voting man on the street, talk just like you.
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Muzic

By the way COSATU is not united behing zuma.
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ChampRef

Amandla - Amandla - Amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnndla
VIVA TO STABILITY IN OUR COUNTRY VIVA
VIVA COMRADE ZUMA VIVA
AMANDLA - AMANDLA - AMANDLA
VOTE ANC - VOTE ZUMA - VOTE ANC
PHANTSI NGE MPI nenhlamba phantsi,
PHAMBILI NGE RESPECT PHAMBILI
AMANDLA - AMANDLA
Viva Comrade Zwelinzima Vavi viva,
Viva Comrade Sdumo viva,

VIVA MY PRESIDENT ZUMA VIVA,
Mayibuye, iANC, Masibuye isithunzi se ANC masibuye,

VIVA SECOND TERM FOR ZUMA, viva
Ha a tshwarwe malema ha a tshwarwe,

COME MANGAUNG, ZUMA FOR PRESIDENT

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ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat

@Dandan
Lamakeketa
Mangaung will be ANC conference not COSATU or SACP the man with more rights than other citizens will be challenged at Mangaung. Can you imagine JZ being our president for another five years. The sooner we get rid of JZ the better for beloved ANC and SA
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You just show yourself you are nt a member of anc you are a follower, sympathiser, your statement is very ignorant, knows nothing about business of anc, similar to Malema who is busy appearing of people wont be in mongaung.

Let me give you umhabulo, members of cosatu are thery same members of sacp/anc we talk about dual membership, sibhanx tseu, know about alliance
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Your numbers do not add up and this is just part of propaganda from Zuma factionalists and loyalists. Not so long ago Zuma factionalists were saying that they were winning in the Eastern Cape but their outright lies and propaganda have been exposed with most regions going for those who support change. While there many COSATU members who are also members of the ANC, they do not necessarily follow the leadership preferences of their leaders. Anyone who is at the conference will know that there are many at the COSATU conference who are routing for change.

Let us wait and see what Zuma factionalists and loyalists will have to say when it becomes clear that six provinces are actually ready to nominate Kgalema Motlanthe as president. No one should be fooled by the lies and propaganda from blind Zuma loyalists, also present in this Forum. Let us continuing working for change until Mangaung and save the ANC and country from crisis and disgrace.

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Dandan

@ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat


Are you still alive I thought you suffered a heart attack or went to hidden like Saddam who started to feel the footsteps of the NATO. Luckily you have been captured in the caves alive, welcome back.

As we have been telling you long ago the war is coming nearer, the SACP finished with their conference this week is all about COSATU, strong formations of the alliance, rightful owners , who can decide for the leadership of the alliance, not by organising marakana workers who will not be participating in Mongaung.


KZN is a leading province in respect of delegates, we dont change our mindset , Zuma for second term, we want to make it clear with your factionalists of malemas, you will never get our ANC, you rather go back to your cold COPE, take all these loose cannons who were fired for mismanagement the likes of Cele, Malema, Nyanda etc

With us Zuma we have trust to outs all the so called untouchables in the ANC, who are in the movement for selfish interest, we know why we want Zuma for sec term not because he can deliver the priorities of the movement but to deal with all these untouchables who want to sell our movements for their selfish interests to build bunkers for R60m,, and live poor kids without books.

You and your devil worshippers go hell, we dont care we will tell you straight , we dont take damn any longer, we are tired of being kind with you,


All what we can tell you, take Kgalema with you Cyril will kindly replace him and take the country to greater heights, we know why we have kept Zuma for sec term, all is nt lost.

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Dandan

@ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat


unfortunately, zuma has never been supported in the ECape even against Mbeki but came out victorious luckily this term he as closed the gap to make a difference of 6 votes , whereas you dont have provinces suporting you overwhelmingly, you are in trouble. With three provinces on our bags we are covered
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ChampRef

@Dandan

I just hope they read understand what you have written here. You have made my day COMRADE. They do not know why we want to keep ZUMA.

VIVA COMRADE Dandan VIVA, you are BRILLIANT DEAR
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Dandan

@ChampRef


people dont know why we support zuma, we want to rebuild the anc , we have so many leaders in the movement leadership in the movement isnt limited to selected few, Cyril must take the country after Zuma after he had molested all these untouchables
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ktzo

Mark my words, Zuma is being played. He is going to get a surprise in october when debates are opened
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ChampRef

@Dandan, you are so right, CYRIL must take over, not all this headless chicken that are busy making noise. Leaders do not incite war they call for calm.
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s.cold

Dandan
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useke waba kwi SRC e-westville na?
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VIVA MSHOLOZI VIVA,,,,,,,,ZUMA HATERS,,,,NOZOBA STRONG,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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MissBhakajuju

Kgalema Motlanthe.... my future. my vision !!!
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ktzo

If Zuma, Wins Mangaung its fine then the masses will cause a Split vote in the next elections and defeat ANC,. So its up to ANC to decide they take Zuma forward and lose the masses vote to opposition, thus loosing government. This is a true test of mangaung to show if the want to govern the contry or just the party. What happened in Lesotho where opposition won by coalition is soon coming.
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Dandan

s.cold
Dandan
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isigigayi sasengoye qabana asijiki asesatshiswa, we need a stable anc after zuma after all these headless chickens have been buried and forgetten
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paracute

missbakhajuju do we still have to call other people amakwerekwere? that's old fashioned gal Abantu laba
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Dandan

@ktzo


dont worry we have gone through that fear, even in 2009 all analysts predicted the anc will lose the elections n so forth n so forth , people love anc , wil never think to make a blunder to vote DA
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ChampRef

Ha bashwe, ANC will never be defeated by any party. Nor by malema and his allies. VIVA ANC VIVA, VIVA THE ALLIANCE VIVA, VIVA COSATU VIVA,
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MissBhakajuju

Kgalema Motlanthe...

My Future
My Vision
My Comrade...................... Amandla!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Tango

Jacob Zuma

My Future
My Vision
My Comrade...................... Amandla!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Till 2019
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paracute

ancnduntsu

dit gaan nie mooi wees as jou pa sal gevloek word, moet asseblief nie ou mense vloek nie. nogal die President. moet nie! moet nie my laaitie. on weet julle jong mense dink malema is die weg, waarheid en lewe maar ek se vir julle my jeug julle gaan verdwaal.

Huu! Ek kan Afrikaans Tweede taal probeer hei?

come on my dear colored, whites and those of you blacks who know this language correct me.
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Dandan

@MissBhakajuju


let me give you umhabulo, when two bulls fight grass suffer, in other words Kgalema is sacrficed for this war, we cant go on as if nothing is happening in the ANC.

Zuma was elected in Polkwane to cleans the ANC, by getting rid of Mbeki who did nt want to step down, who kept people outside Luthuli house the very same people turn against Zuma, who opened the door for them in Luthuli house, are these people or snakes, the sec phase he must get rid of malema finish and klaar, you must know politics go and rid a book by Marx Webber will tell you what is politcs I dont think after reading that book will you ever like it or not.

There is big history with Zuma why he joined ANC that is topic for other day, Zuma has never been a leader is/was a soldier , he is still doing his job was coopted for in the anc
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ChampRef

@Tango

Jacob Zuma

My Future
My Vision
My Comrade...................... Amandla!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Till 2019

SURE comrade

Tango

Jacob Zuma

My Future
My Vision
My Comrade...................... Amandla!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Till 2019Tango

Jacob Zuma

My Future
My Vision
My Comrade...................... Amandla!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Till 2019

@ancnduntsu


dit gaan nie mooi wees as jou pa sal gevloek word, moet asseblief nie ou mense vloek nie. nogal die President. moet nie! moet nie my laaitie. on weet julle jong mense dink malema is die weg, waarheid en lewe maar ek se vir julle my jeug julle gaan verdwaal.

so true, let us stop insulting elderly people, UBUNTU and RESPECT


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paracute

tango and missbakhajuju

never rely on anyone for they can fall at anytime and where will you guys be? believe in yourself guys and trust your creator only.

Amandla to your loyalties
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Mgwijikhwebu

@MissBhakajuju,

What future do you have in Motlanthe? Stop dreaming old lady... you bad loser. Sanipha isibhaxu ePolokwane (round 1), sizoniphinda futhi eMangaung (round 2)... what more do you want Mbekite?

Come Mangaung Come.... Down with Malemites like MissBhakajuju et. al. Down...
Zuma for President, Cyril for Deputy President, Mantashe for SG, then the rest of the best ANC cadres line-up completes the list.
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Cl!ck-

We want a coloured president.. Zuma is stealing too much TIK..

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Mgwijikhwebu

The ANC won 65% of the vote with Zuma at the helm. Come 2014, they will increase that margin to 68% still with Zuma at the helm. The mighty Khongolose (ANC) is still growing in strength and support especially in KZN. The IFP is busy dying a slow death, and guess what, all those members are flocking in numbers back to where they really belong, i.e. to the ANC. It's bad news for Yengeni, Malema, Sexwale and Mbalula. Last time I checked, they couldn't stand the contamination of the ANC by IFP members swelling the ANC ranks and importing "IFP tendencies" into the movement. Ask the poor Blade.... LOL....
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ktzo

DAN Dan

How many members did ANc had in 1994 and how many Black member did DA have and NOW? How many wards were won by anc iand DA in 1994 and Now. Stop smoking socks and talk facts. We the upcoming Generation dont care who fought who we vote for people you have the brains. Zuma didnt go to school so he cannot talk same level as me he is an outdated leader.

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DA-DBN-GUY

I dont understand how anyone in their right mind can still vote for the anc and can even back a president who is not adequately educated or even morally deserving to lead this country. The anc has lost its way badly and there is no way back for them. Too many are corrupt and the next in line is as broken as their predecessor.

Phansi anc phansi
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Dandan
@MissBhakajuju


let me give you umhabulo, when two bulls fight grass suffer, in other words Kgalema is sacrficed for this war, we cant go on as if nothing is happening in the ANC.


WHO IS THE GRASS?
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Mgwijikhwebu

@Cl!ck-
Come on.. You must be joking. A coloured president in SA? It would be nice to have Trevor as our commander-in-chief, but you know the politics of Mzansi bro... Patricia De Lille left PAC after decades of warming its benches and realising she could not achieve her ambition of leading the organisation, a "black" one nogal. Guess where she is now...?
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MissBhakajuju

Kgalema Motlanthe........

a Comrade
a Stalward
a Leader
a Politician
a Father
a Peace Keeper
a Visionalist

I PAUSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Intomb'omxhosa

This Mshini wam guy might be good in the bedroom but is clueless in running our beloved country. But then again I dont blame Zuma for being sbanxa president , I blame people who voted him ( knowing exactly that he hold a grade R report).

Motlanthe for President and Zuma for Maskandi music!!!!
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Gusheshe

Zoomer will only be supported by his fellow Zoolus morons who have only their selfish interest of Inkandla and kzn in general and not of the country as a whole. Talk about being a Zoolu no brains at all
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MissBhakajuju

@Mgwijikhwebu

you sound like an IFP agent Boy...... are you still excited about Polokwane ?? *BIg LOL*

its old news, Boy & it is so yesterday & exhausted........ I haven't given any Verdit about Mangaung & I didn't say

who's going to take which Position...... I was just My Kgalema Motlanthe, and ANC comrade !!! Do you have a problem

with that ???????????



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MissBhakajuju

= I was just praising My Kgalema Motlanthe, an ANC comrade
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Tango

Gusheshe
Zoomer will only be supported by his fellow Zoolus morons who have only their selfish interest of Inkandla and kzn in general and not of the country as a whole. Talk about being a Zoolu no brains at all
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Zulus are not only majority in KZN but also here in Gauteng and second highest majority in Mpumalanga. In FS also the is strong Zulu presence there.
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ktzo

Miss Bhaka - What can one say about Zuma
- Money launder
- Rape acussed
- Racketeerer
- Man without dignity
- Domkop no school
- Tribalist
- No brainer
- Indian loyalist
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JFK

Intombi Xhosa :

I disagree with you akasona isibhanxa kodwa uhlakaniphile :education is not only about certification but about the learning through your day to day experinces: he was able to head the Intelligence Unit
of Umkhonto Wesizwe infiltrating the resourcefull spooks of the brutal system and its allies with the
limited resources the ANC had : to me that is the distiction : unless if you are anti Zulu well that is your problem:

Viva Nxamalala




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Dandan

@JFK

have you evr heard of barbaric intellect, we used to call them thus at campus "barbaric intellects" , people who go all out telling people are highly educated , yo know im from university with a degree in swimnology, etc

when you look at them they are very poor, live from hand to mouth , these are typical "Intombi Xhosa"
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MissBhakajuju

@ ktzo

you've somed it up, well....... I actually had a list of 'praises' suitable for him....lol.. but I didn't want to cause any tensions

so I sticked 2 Praising my Leader Kgalema !!!!!
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SEBIKIBIKI

MOFFDAT, there is one important element that you have raised and you were spot on. I think an ACADEMICS REVOLUTION IN SA is imminent. Really, we cant take it anymore. We have compromised eand that is enough. What is happening now is exactly the modus operandi of the ANC. They have devalued the importance of being educated. The highest educational qualification according to the morons is to be an active card carrying member to one/more of the alliance partners, then your doors to a better life will be opened). Really, we are tired of being forced to accept some idiots as our leaders. As for the man with a 3D HEAD, there is no way he will take this beloved country of ours to greener pastures.
History has taught us almost all liberation movements(especially in Africa) has got a lifespan. They usually die a natural death.
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Mgaraji

For Kgalema to challenge Zuma, he needs an indication of clear outright majority. Being Deputy now he is guaranteed Presidency in 2019. He will not risk humiliate himself, mind you Kgalema is not desperate to be President but people who support him out of hatred for Zuma and those who want the wheels to turn fast for Tokyo to be President. No sane politician can take that risk. Price for defeat is heavy in politics, unlike in sports. Narrow win is also a burden either. Imagine how it is like to be Caslte Lager Mathale being in power in a narrow victory. He is weak, Kgalema does not wanna be in Mathale's position.
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Muzinator

you better do your besty this time around Mr President.. up your socks
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Tango

@Zuma haters
Fact is ..................Kgalema is also not educated
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Patsekg

@hell

Let me advice you my broer, yes you can rejoice now that a deal is very close to being struck without the help of unions as you say, however, one thing that you need to know is that after the increase of your wages, 2 or 3 years from now, there's going to be retrenchment, and there's nothing the committee you elected can do to stop it. The unfortunate thing is, you might be one of those that will be retrenched. This is how the minning industry has operated over the years. They bow to pressure and give you what you want, three years after that they retrench and recover the money they increased your wages with. While you celebrate, bare in mind that you might be doing it at the expense of your fellow brothers that will be retrenched as a result of that strike.
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ChampRef

Presidents have advisors, they have cabinets ministers, why do we put ZUMA on the wrong, what are all this people that have been chosen to help him do, I do not think he takes decisions by himself. So please hands off my PRESIDENT, VIVA ZUMA VIVA - until 2019 when you give the ropes to Ramaphosa.
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Popeye

I don't like the regular sh*t…why are they electing all this half@ass leadership. Mangaunge is my future’s solution. I don’t see the double head as my president. No, no, not this time.
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ktzo

Popeye - I couldnt agree any more. Someone please tell me why PEA head should be re-elected. He hasnt shown any leadership skills. Every government sphere is in crisis. How can he know the value of education when he doenst have one? I guess you dont have to be a drunkard to own a bottle store.


ANC idiots
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Dandan

@Popeye


popzin mnganami uyimpintshi yami wena watchout politcs is agame , its my game , yours is comedy, learn to listen to me, we know what we are doing/planning with zuma
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Dandan

@ktzo
Popeye - I couldnt agree any more. Someone please tell me why PEA head should be re-elected. He hasnt shown any leadership skills. Every government sphere is in crisis. How can he know the value of education when he doenst have one? I guess you dont have to be a drunkard to own a bottle store.

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politics isnt a love game, or romantic game, my advice to you start attending branch meetings you will understand , with internet politics you will remain blunt


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Makhosini0408

DA-DBN-GUY
I dont understand how anyone in their right mind can still vote for the anc and can even back a president who is not adequately educated or even morally deserving to lead this country. The anc has lost its way badly and there is no way back for them. Too many are corrupt and the next in line is as broken as their predecessor.

Phansi anc phansi
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Typical DA mentality? Patronising others. By the way, everyone has got the right to vote for any party of their choice, unless, it has been changed. Secondly, it will take more than the three stooges, of which one was drying a taxi in Alex, for the masses to vote for the DA. I think you are following in the footsteps of your leader, in calling people, refugees in their own country. Not surprised at all.
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Mgwijikhwebu

@MissBhakajuju,
Clearly you are way too desperate sbhanxa somfati waphesheya kwenciba. Yini yona lent'okhuluma ngayo, uMotlanthe uzokwenzelani lena ongayitholi kuZuma, uMsholozi, uNxamalala, I sense you are just bitter and umuncu for not having "tasted" uMshini Wakhe.
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SEBIKIBIKI

@dishonest to themselves

Factionalism always make people to go blind for the truth and reality. The truth is all of this morons are supporting second term for the 3D head one cause they are protecting their own interests. You are no longer objective. they rather opt for destruction of our beloved country other than saving it in order to fulfill their greedy intentions. Shame on you.
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MissBhakajuju

@Mgwijikhwebu

LOL.... you're an Old bored Men, get yourself a s.e.x toy, to waste your day...... you're now getting more personal

bitter for u Mshini who's ever exposed from Daughters to Mothers ??? & he's even older than my Father's Older Brother....

he's an ancestor to me Dude !!! I just don't have any respect 4 him, hence I call him with his name, not only becoz most

S.A peeps, don't respect him, but because, he doesn't deserve any !!!!
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topdog009

Phambili.......2 Fingers ( 2nd term ), Mayibuyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
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thabiso992000

i willnot be voting for the ANC if Zuma wins in Mangaung, i guess he will celebrate by buying another kuku
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Mgwijikhwebu

@MissBhakajuju,
Precisely, that's the point. You call him by name 'cos of your fantasies you know... If he was that old and you truly recognised that, I am sure you would not do that. I don't subscribe to the fillowing crap: Respect is earned.
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s.cold

tsek
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Patsekg

@ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat

I am neighther of Zuma nor Motlanthe, but I support anyone of them as long as he will never allow Malema to come back, however, i think you and others who hate Zuma are afraid of the trueth. My comrade, sometimes the trueth can be against our wishes. Look at this, Zuma has a very solid support in three provinces, yes i say a very solid support as Motlanthe's backers could not even try to contest. However, in the other provinces that you are talking about, Motlanthe cannot come out and say he has solid support, as in some of them, like the Eastern Cape that you have already mentioned, it was neck on neck, where Motlanthe's backers won by a very close margin. Limpopo Province is going to be very difficult, especially because of the fact that things have changed dramatically since Mathale's controvertial win against Joe Phaahla. I am sure that you aware by now that Dickson Masemola has since changed the allience, together with his region, Sekhukhune. This tells us that if he had changed before the elections then, Mathale would have lost to Joe Phaahla convincingly. Again there are some sub-regions under Mopane which supported Mathale then but now have also changed. Tecnically, you can say Limpopo Province is almost the same situation as the Eastern Cape, it's just that the leadership of Limpopo wants Motlanthe while the people on the ground, I mean the deligates that are going to vote in Mangaung, most of them are now joining Zuma's camp. Whether you want to believe this or not, this is what is happenning in Limpopo at the moment. Have you ever asked yourself why Mathale is no longer as vocal as he was last year? The reason is that he has realised that Zuma is gaining more ground in that province and he is now trying to stand on the fence to test the waters. That tells you he is aware that he is loosing ground and that spells bad for Motlanthe. The northern Cape has not yet decided who to lend their support to, North West Province is also going to be neck on neck, and that tells you how difficult it's going to be for anyone who dreams of challenging Zuma. You can try to convince yourself and others by saying all sorts of things about Zuma but the trueth will lay bare everything clear in Mangaung. It's not about what you wish, it's about what the facts tell us at the moment. You must not be confused by what leaders in those provinces say, it's the supporters on the ground that have the final say. Like in the Eastern Cape, where the leadership in that province is undoubtedly behind Zuma, yet the people on the ground have spoken. It may be the same story with Gauteng Province where the regions might say otherwise. My views based on what is happenning at the moment are that Zuma is going to win and he will do that convincingly. I also suspect that Motlanthe might not stand in Mangaung, he is clever enough to read the situation, and the fact that he is strugling to get a convincing support in those provinces you have mentioned might prompt him to remain Zuma's deputy, knowing that his turn is comming in just five years or less. These are my views based on what is taking place at the moment.
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Dandan

@Patsekg


my chief retaining Kgalema wont solve the situation on the long term goal of the anc, the solution is to get rid of Kgalema , for us he has demonstrated strongly to be hypocrite for not coming out clear what his position in this blood bath we are seeing day in/out. The solution is drag on Cyril as a man who was supposed to take over from Mandela, we cant bet on Kgalema knowing very well these hyaenas/wolfs will suffice from hiden, the like of Malema, Yengeni,Nyanda,Cele etc to keep these hyaenas in the caves forever substitute with Cyril , definately sure after 15 yrs some will have die.d naturally.
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veee!

U knw what guys dont vote because you love zuma, but vote because you love South Africa, zuma doesnt rule alone, all those guys next to him they are the leaders. If u dont vote no one will vote for you coz everyone is voting for him self. And if u dont vote, 2mr u will hate south africa

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Patsekg

@Dandan

Sure comrade, I agree with you 100%. Motlanthe is a good guy but he is failing the ANC by not protecting it from counter revolutionaries, he has been quiet all along while the president of the same party he claims to love was being attacked by his supporters. He has never said a word in deffence of the ANC and its constitution. I also agree with your statement that says Zuma does not govern alone, he works with other people including Motlanthe himself, so if he has failed, therefore all of them have failed.
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ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat

@Dandan
Dandan, you should know that my life is in God's hands. I had rather be in God's hands than be in the hands of man. That for me settles it. However, I have to relieve you of your unbridled optimism about Mangaung, which is not anchored in critical realism. At best, your statements are just wishful thinking from a blind Zuma loyalist. At worst, these are the blabberings of a Zuma factionalist afraid of the political wilderness.

I have no doubt that Jacob Zuma will be contested. Young people are just waiting for the 1st of October to make their preferences known and the floodgates are going to open sweeping Zuma away and his factionalists. They will be crisscrossing the country lobbying branches to stop the cris in the ANC and the country by getting rid of Jacob Zuma. I have no doubt that Jacob Zma is going to carry KZN but not because he has absolute support there but simply because people in that part of the country are so intimidated and traumatised that only the very brave will be able to stand up and make their preferences known. As for Freistata and Mpumalanga, Jacob Zuma does not have absolute support there. You should know that the other side did not contest in conferences because they realised that the outcomes were already rigged. In Freistata Ace Magashule did not even allow regional conferences to be held because he was afraid of the outcomes. As a result he disqualified legitimate ANC branches and launched parallel branches which sent delegates to Parys. This issue was brought to the attention of Gwede Mantashe, who has been twiddling his thumbs up to now. And the ANC in Freistata has about 60 000 members compared to Limpopo which is well over 100 000. Mpumalanga is also around 70 000. Eastern Cape and KZN are more or less the same size. Howver you seem to be confused about the Eastern Cape and OR Tambo. Mbeki won the Eastern Cape but lost OR Tambo which went to Zuma. Now this is what is happening. All the regions in the Eastern Cape, except the small Chris Hani region are voting for change. OR Tambo went to the forces of change with 6 votes even after the Provincial Task team disqaulified 100 branches which were perceived to be pro-cahnge but they still failed. Now most of those branches will be going to Mangaung. In the other regions, the "forces of change" command comfortable majorities. Let's not forget that Zuma factionalists have been going arund telling people that the Eastern Cape is in their bag whereas it was just propaganda and a pack of lies. We can also see what is going on now, with Zuma factionalists pretending that they command majority support in the ANC, with these threats against Motlanthe if he stands against Zuma and loses. The truth is that Motlanthe has nothing to lose but Jacob Zuma has a lot to lose and could even end up in jail if his fraud and corruption charges are revived. So, Jacob Zuma is the one who should be advised about the gamble he is taking. If Kgalema Motlanthe is overwhelmingly nominated by at least 6 provinces, he should accept. Jacob Zuma will be going out on a limb contesting even when he has only been nominated by his home province, KZN.

As for the SACP, it is mainly irrelevant and just a lobby group by Blade Nzimande and Buti Manamela, for positions in the ANC. Its membership is not credible and the party only exists in a few provinces, with Blade Nzimande imposing himself nationally and ruling with an iron fist (but watch the space, the day of the red jackal is coming!).

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@Dandan

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All what we can tell you, take Kgalema with you Cyril will kindly replace him and take the country to greater heights, we know why we have kept Zuma for sec term, all is nt lost. "

Kgalema Motlanthe is a disciplined member of the ANC, and the only one who is palying by the book. He has abided by NEC rules and directives. He has refused to be drawn into any factions and is waiting for ANC branches to decide on the leadership issue and will abide by their choice. He is not frantic, desperate or anxious like someone we know, who wants to use everything even ANC centenary lectures to campaign for re-election. Kgalema Motlanthe is an honourable man and gentleman, and will unite the ANC.

As for Cyril Ramaphosa, he is yesterday's man and has been overtaken by events. As things stand, even if he were to be nominated he will not win. There is never going to be a President Cyril Ramaphosa in South Africa, but only in Cloud Cuckooland. The fact that he was prepared to be used to settle political scores with Julius Malema clearly shows that he is no independent thinker. The fact that he is now a shareholder in Lonmin is coming back to haunt him. He sits on all these boards of mining companies and others but has not made any difference. Cyril Ramaphosa has got very little of substance to offer the ANC and the country. Ofcourse, he is a good negotiator, but that is not what the country needs now. I do not doubt that he is a good man but unfortunately he is too ambitious. Ambitious men only care about themselves and not the ANC nor the country. The country needs a Lula now, and the former S-G of NUM and ANC SG, now ANC deputy president Kgalema Motlanthe is the perfect candidate. And come October and November, he should and will get the nod from ANC branches around the country. And we are definitely taking Kgalema Motlanthe to Union Buildings and sending Jacob Zuma back to Nkandla. That can only be good for the ANC and country.


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Dandan

@ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat

Dandan, you should know that my life is in God's hands. I had rather be in God's hands than be in the hands of man..........."
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PAD, if ever you are spiritual you should know that God is in the name of father, son and spiritual, that means he can work through human being to spread his mission, in that sense he has been working through Zuma to stabilise the ANC from the agents of Devil worshippers that is Malema,Cele,Yengeni, Selebi , Mashatile etc who want none other than to enrich themselves only by visiting Augsberg Mitchells Res,OnPoint tenders,R60m bunkers, Billion tenders,Alex Mafias, MLs etc while poor of the poorest kids in Limpopo do nt have books as a basic need for survival.


God is always on the side of the poor kids, he is a creator and saviour. I hope you read the bible well. Kgalema unfortunately is seen at the wrong place wrong time, and caught offside.

To refresh you KZN and EC is not of the same size , how long I ‘ve been telling you last time I gave you stats for delegates attending the conference , you still screw it up, again KZN will bring 514 delegates, EC will bring 420, between these two provinces KZN has overwhelming support while EC has a slight difference, in actual fact all the provinces JZs presence is suffice in NWest Supra is making a huge damage, Limp Joe Phaahla and Lehlogonolo, in GP Nomvula has disbanded all the structures of Alex Mafios , JZ will be collecting all these minor changes to add on what is already on the bag in KZN,FS,Mpum etc.

Kgalema is more worried about his profile/credibility, as thing stands he might not buy the face of these devil worshippers who want to drag his name on the mud, since his defeat will write him off completely in the history books of the ANC, and as DPres of the State. Pity enough you agents of evil spirits who do nt care about poor kids in Limp are blind ,hatred for Zuma, on myself my LIFE IS IN ZUMA to get rid of all these hyaenas/wolfs/tenderpreneurs /greedy people thats the reason I support Zuma. We have seen God before sending Zuma to save poor people from the graves of beetroot and garlic he is still going to show us his presence. I give JZ a mandate to save my child from these wolfs and prepare a better future in the hands of Cyril a man of integrity a custodian of the Constitution of this country.

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Patsekg

@ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat

You wrote "As for Cyril Ramaphosa, he is yesterday's man and has been overtaken by events. As things stand, even if he were to be nominated he will not win. There is never going to be a President Cyril Ramaphosa in South Africa, but only in Cloud Cuckooland. The fact that he was prepared to be used to settle political scores with Julius Malema clearly shows that he is no independent thinker".

Chief, i'm afraid to tell you that you are so illinformed about the ANC, its processes and its constitution, because if you were really well informed, you would have known that Cyril was only defending the ANC and its constitution as he read line by line while passing Malema's judgement. It has never been a case of him being influenced by anyone, Cyril is a lawyer by proffession, he has a better understanding of what law is all about, so no one can ever influence him. Also your insinuation that he is too ambitious is totally wrong. The only people I know of, that are too ambitious are Tokyo Sexwale and Matthews Phosa and that's why Mbeki sidelined them in the first place. Tokyo has over and over again proven himself to be very ambitious by attempting to contest for presidency in the past but still failed, while Cyril has never tried to contest for any position in the ANC, if you have prove of him having tried to contest for any position, you can prove me wrong. The only thing i know is that he told the journalists that he is comfortable with what he is doing at the moment, and he can only contest for any leadership position if the ANC wants him to, otherwise he is fine where he is.

You also said,"In Freistata Ace Magashule did not even allow regional conferences to be held because he was afraid of the outcomes. As a result he disqualified legitimate ANC branches and launched parallel branches which sent delegates to Parys".

Well let's say you are right here, however, we also know that the regions that were affected by this only contribute 30% of the deligation in that province, meaning that 70% voted for Ace, and you need to be reminded that chaos in those affected regions was caused by the ANCYL and Malema's suporters who realised that they were not going to win, so their strategy was to cause chaos in order to get the conference postponed so that they can have enough time to convince more people to turn against Ace Magashule, and the conference was postponed three times in those regions in an attempt to accomodate them, but then they realised it was going to be impossible to beat Ace and they decided against contesting as they would have been embarassed. Let me also remind you that what you are accusing Ace Magashule of, is exactely what your hero Julius Malema was doing in the ANCYL structures, but you are so blinded by your hatred for Zuma that you can't even see the ambitious and the opportunists in your own camp. Malema disbunded every ANCYL structure that failed to toe the line, and expelled those who posed a threat to his position, yet you are too blind to see that. The same Zuma that you hate has never disbunded a single structure of the ANC even those that he knows they are against him, not even Castle Mathale who presided over the collapse of his province's budget, he could not fire him even though he had enough reasons to can do so, yet your hatred for him has blinded you to a level where you can't see that.

You are also telling lies by claiming that Zuma has a lot to loose than Motlanthe, well let me tell you something that you don't know, in actual fact, Motlanthe is the one who will be taking a gamble as he will be automatically giving away the position of deputy president to someone else, and as for Zuma, whether he wins or not, he will continue to earn the same salary as state president until he dies, he will continue to enjoy most of the benefits he is enjoying now, may be not all of them but most of them, so for him really there's nothing to loose. If Motlanthe decide to stand and loose, he forfeits his position as deputy president now, and chances for him to come back will be almost nil.

On the issue of Motlanthe being an honourable and discipline member of the ANC, you are right, however, there's one area where he has shown weaknesses, and that is he fails to stand up at a time when the ANC needs him the most.

You also lied by saying "Kgalema Motlanthe is a disciplined member of the ANC, and the only one who is palying by the book. He has abided by NEC rules and directives".

If he had abided by the NEC rules and directives, he would have defended the ANC's constitution during Malema's disciplinary hearing, he failed to do so and even after the same NEC had taken a decision that was against Malema, he did not support it. Actually if there's any peroson who should be commended here is Cyril Ramaphosa who was never intimidated by Malema and his gang, Ramaphosa stood up and defended the ANC's constution even though he knew it will put him on the wrong side with the ANCYL, therefore destroying any chance of him becoming the next president. However, being a discipline member of the ANC that he is, he thought it was better to defend the organisation's rules and regulations than to appease the illdiscipline brigade that seeks to hijack the ANC for their own personal gains in exchange for nomination in Mangaung. That is the kind of person the ANC need, not someone who keeps quiet when the same organisation he claims to love is under siege from Malema and his gang.



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bbhuda

cosatu as a unions mother body failed miners until juluis went there.zuma must must step down
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Dandan

@Patsekg


my com we are faced with problem in this country if we have people llike this guy call PAD , this guy was defeated in Polkwane 7 yrs ago , he is still angry,bitter, I wish I cant be a neighbour of this canibal who does nt forgive and forget. Hayi ilukhuni inhliziyo yaleisilwane ngabe inhloboni yesilwane lento , sies
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freegoman

Zuma is like a snake in the grass
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