Mzabalazo

Dead wood, saying so much and doing nothing, he is one of the people who gave us the pathetic President Jacob Zuma, he has done much damage than progress for his people, he campaigned for Zuma and lied to us saying through Zuma they were going to get rid of the LABOUR BROKER, for that alone he need not to retain his position and the worst crime that he has committed it to continue making the FEDERATION a partisan organization . I will not miss you should you loose your position. Join Barney Pityana and contradict yourself further as he does.
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Kabelo10

@Mzabalazo
Thats not true!!
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Mzabalazo

SEP 14, 2012
Kabelo10
@Mzabalazo
Thats not true!!
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What is it that is not true? Is it not true that Vavi was the chief anointer of Zuma?
Is it not true that we are worse off today because of the decision that Vavi took, to derail justice to prevail , by fighting against ZJ defending himself in the court of law?
Did not Vavi blame Mbeki( who happens not to be my favorite, but I am sure that Mbeki would not have taken a foolish decision of allowing the West to attack Libya and introduce Islamocary) for labour brokers and promise that with ZJ the labour broker will a thing of the past?
Is it not true that COSATU and it's affiliates are an extended wing of the ANC?
Which of these is not true?
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Kabelo10

It seems you only know the negatives only about this true revolutionary leader.
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Mzabalazo

SEP 14, 2012
Kabelo10
It seems you only know the negatives only about this true revolutionary leader.
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Kabelo 10 I know more than you think but that will not blind my sober judgement.
Let me make for you an example, Jabu Pule( Hlongwane) or Steve Lekwelea were great players and lets say they were playing for you're team and were no longer giving the fire they used to give would you retain them? I do not think so does that mean you despise them? H#ell no! Can you really recommend Doctor Khumalo to Igesund? No, but that does not mean you do not respect him for his best contribution, then why should it be different in politics, we need to keep the antiques just because they were once great Madiba knew that one can only do so much and as soon as they have done what they are suppose the need to move for other new minds. Vavi cannot see beyond the apartheid struggle, that is why we have leaders who continuously talk about the ills of apartheid when they commi the present ills. So I am not going to ignore the mistakes of my hero nor will I pretend that all those who fought for change are infallible , Vavi needs to join the elders and become a young elder and stop fuffing around
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Lord-Have-Mercy

i will pray for you Mzabalazo

its seems as if you are walking in a forest but seeing no trees

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Papage

Two faced, they caught up with him at last.
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19Doubleiets

Now they want Vavi out simply because of the MESS they did... ai ANC
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Papage

19Doubleiets
Now they want Vavi out simply because of the MESS they did... ai ANC

What mess, he messed himself up, by been a politician and a workers man at the same time, how do you balance the 2?
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Kabelo10

He is the only true revolutionary leader left in the alliance, is unfortunate COSATU is no longer that strong as it used to be cause of division over power struggle, and thats not becaus of VAVI. He remained true to Cosatu principles even today. If he is booted out, i wonder who will fill his shoes, Irvin Jim maybe will do.

I cite with malema when he say's ""I have nothing against Vavi and will always support and defend him as a brother and comrade” and that “he is the only revolutionary remaining in Cosatu".

Follow this URL: http://numsa.org.za/article/cosatu-rejects-malemas-flattery-2012-09-06
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Zabaragast

Come to the civil society. You can't defend the alliances actions while advocating for the poor/workers.
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Mzabalazo

SEP 14, 2012
Lord-Have-Mercy
i will pray for you Mzabalazo

its seems as if you are walking in a forest but seeing no trees
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If your prayers were working you will be seeing the light, right now you don't, thanks for the thought though.
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lindsay

@Mzabalazo

so the only person who is saying the sane thing is Sdumo Dlamini because he is Zulu and he is favouring Zuma is that it trumpet lady
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mychief

I was listening to comrade Vavi's radio interview this morning. What I heard it that he seems to have changed from his recent rhetoric we have heard from him. But cde Vavi should have learnt that he was isolating himself. Comrades, let us re-elect him, he has learnt from his mistakes. We want a united Cosatu.
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Phathuza

Vavi is leader who fights against corruption but the problem with vavi he supported shower man he caused a lot of damage by supporting that corrupt leader
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Mzabalazo

SEP 14, 2012
lindsay
@Mzabalazo

so the only person who is saying the sane thing is Sdumo Dlamini because he is Zulu and he is favouring Zuma is that it trumpet lady
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Name calling is unethical and I do not respect that. Who said I am in support of Sdumo, first of all I am above tribalism , I am a South African before anything else, that is me. Secondly I am commenting about Vavi, I was not aware that there was a competition between the two on this article and lastly my comments above do speak about the failures of the COSATU under the leadership of Vavi as the topic is about Vavi but to make you sleep well Sdumo is part of of this failed process, I will wait until the Sowetan has something about Sdumo and then comment on him, or do you want us to also comment about Gatsha Buthelezi just because he is Zulu even when the post is saying nothing about him. Mina I do not support petty tribal politics in fact I hate tribalism . Lastly if you want to engage me next time be civil and stop been clindastinely aggressive.
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leswene

This Unionist are Stupid , they are no longer serving the workers need , Vavi is the only voice of reason in Cosatu
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|Sinudeity|

What South Africa NEEDS is for the tripartheid alliance to split. How can the ruling party and the unions be boeties?
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KILLERa1111

@Mzabalazo & Kabelo

For your information Sdumo Dlamini is not a Zulu, he is a Swazi man..The fact that he support Zuma has got nothing to do with being Tribalistic or Zulu...

Guys this thing of Zulu bashing is not human why hate your own..Zulu's are part of SA like any other tribe.

If Zulu's decide to proctice they own culture so be it let us not bash other tribes...If u dont want Zuma as a president of the country gather enough people send them Mangaung and vote him out...BUT also Zulus have the same right to gather enough people on their side and be voted in...

We live in a democratic world people
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Mzabalazo

SEP 14, 2012
lindsay
@Mzabalazo

so the only person who is saying the sane thing is Sdumo Dlamini because he is Zulu and he is favouring Zuma is that it trumpet lady
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What sane thing did Sdumo say, tell us ,I do not know any sane thing your boyfriend Sdumo Dlamini has ever said. I am above your peanut minded tribalism , it serves no purpose in my world. If you are a tribalism like your father Zuma do not think we all are.
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Mzabalazo

SEP 14, 2012
KILLERa1111
@Mzabalazo & Kabelo

For your information Sdumo Dlamini is not a Zulu, he is a Swazi man..The fact that he support Zuma has got nothing to do with being Tribalistic or Zulu...

Guys this thing of Zulu bashing is not human why hate your own..Zulu's are part of SA like any other tribe.

If Zulu's decide to proctice they own culture so be it let us not bash other tribes...If u dont want Zuma as a president of the country gather enough people send them Mangaung and vote him out...BUT also Zulus have the same right to gather enough people on their side and be voted in...

We live in a democratic world people
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Tell that to Lindsay she is the one who thinks I am not commenting about Sdumo because he is Zulu, so I a was responding to her naive mentality. Thanks though for reminding us which tribe Sdumo comes from, but to me it does not mean anything as I do not judge people by stereotyping them according to tribes and clans, to me that is stupid and futile. My nationality is much bigger than a tribe that I come from, tribalism is backward and has no value in a progressive society. Biko, Sobukwe Mandela and Tiro has never preached tribalism, so I just wonder why people are so obsessed with this tribal nonsense.
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Kabelo10

mychief
I was listening to comrade Vavi's radio interview this morning. What I heard it that he seems to have changed from his recent rhetoric we have heard from him. But cde Vavi should have learnt that he was isolating himself. Comrades, let us re-elect him, he has learnt from his mistakes. We want a united Cosatu
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Agree with you comrade PERIOD!!! By the way, which mistakes he made?
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Dissident

Mzabalazo, so you want Zuma to run for the second term ? Vavi is the only hope that workers have. Sister Sdumo can no longer be trusted. Look at NUM workers no longer have faith in its leadership because they have no vision like.
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|Sinudeity|

Dissident - Vavi has no vision either. One moment he is lambasting corruption, the next moment he is doing a "50 shades of vavi", crawling ankle-deep into JZ's rear end.
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Mzabalazo

SEP 14, 2012
Dissident
Mzabalazo, so you want Zuma to run for the second term ? Vavi is the only hope that workers have. Sister Sdumo can no longer be trusted. Look at NUM workers no longer have faith in its leadership because they have no vision like.
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I really do not understand why you guys ask me about something I have not said, if you want to tell me something about Vavi please do so don ask me something I do not even see where it fits, because right now you have read that Vavi is loosing popularity amongst the COSATU electorates, this question would be relevant if you ask those who did not nominate Vavi. Secondly that Vavi is not seeing eye to eye with ZUma does not make him a sensible person in choosing a leader as he is the one who brought Zuma to glory, he is the one who brought this ZUmani mess so that shows that even though he is fire brand he lacks skills of good judgement of character. He and Maleme literally took Zuma out of corruption trial, out of sleeping with his friend's daughter and put him to power. So he directly responsible for this mess.
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KEKGATHETSE

I expect Vavi, Malema, Blade, Mantashe and of course JZ to all kiss the dust, they are all responsible for current state of affairs in SA.
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Mzabalazo

SEP 14, 2012
KEKGATHETSE
I expect Vavi, Malema, Blade, Mantashe and of course JZ to all kiss the dust, they are all responsible for current state of affairs in SA.
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Spot on, you just said it in few words , I rest my case.
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MGEEZ

Vavi is a populist just like Malema and Zuma!!!! During the last elections where he retained his current position in Cosatu,he said he would not volunteer himself again for nomination; why now is he a subject of nominations??? Hypocrite!!!
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Phathuza

Also you guys for responsible for current state of affairs in SA.because you voted for shower man but we can forgive you because you were misleaded by Vavi ,Mantashe , Mbalula, Juju , Nzimande
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Phathuza

100% Zulu boy what was that? Its a taste of ur own medicine , The only thing Zuma is good at Dancing and Marring every year , He was dancing with chomee and Vavi all over the coutrsy
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Mzabalazo

SEP 14, 2012
Phathuza
Also you guys for responsible for current state of affairs in SA.because you voted for shower man but we can forgive you because you were misleaded by Vavi ,Mantashe , Mbalula, Juju , Nzimande
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I personally do not vote for the ANC, so not all of us voted for this mess, I would agree with you though if you say the majority of you guys voted for the ANC. I repeat, I do not vote for the ANC
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Mzabalazo

Phathuza
I agree with on the note that the vote one makes can make or break a country, people overwhelmingly voted for person who manipulated the state organs not to stand trial, that was supposed to be a wake up call, as well as the tribal campaign , 100 % Zulu boy ( ikhehla elingaka) was very divisive, the president need to be reflective of all his people not tribe or clan.
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jnrb

Ag Vavi please keep quiet! You and Malemma forced Zuma down our throats at Polokwone 2007 and now we sit with the mess. A man with Std 3 qualification entirely out of his depth. I mean after the slaughter at Rustenburg Lonmin mines, he is too scared to actually go on site and talk to the people and hosts a media briefing 10km away. Even FW de Klerk tried to drive into Boypatong after that incident in 1993.
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KAWUKHONJWA

@Mzabalazo
What is it that is not true? Is it not true that Vavi was the chief anointer of Zuma?
Is it not true that we are worse off today because of the decision that Vavi took, to derail justice to prevail , by fighting against ZJ defending himself in the court of law?
Did not Vavi blame Mbeki( who happens not to be my favorite, but I am sure that Mbeki would not have taken a foolish decision of allowing the West to attack Libya and introduce Islamocary) for labour brokers and promise that with ZJ the labour broker will a thing of the past?
Is it not true that COSATU and it's affiliates are an extended wing of the ANC?
Which of these is not true?

There is no truth in what you are writing here. You must do a realistic research stop losy academic conversation that's what similiar to Barney Pityan, the armchair thinker. JZ IS NOT EUROPEAN COLLEGES products is true African at heart and Zulu basically. So what Mbeki would have done protect Libya from European if he could not civil war in DRC where JZ excelled. Who had came up with a clear planning of ther ural development while his predicessor were ignored of such development and instead reside in the Jews dominated suburbs, Sandton and Hougton. Vavi and JZ did something about labour brokers in terms of the act to regulate them and sure eventually the labour brokers will be something of the past, in the lawful country there is no thing like do away with it now, No there is procedure to undertake.

Jz never protected not to appear in court he had always appeared then you can tell me what happened in those courts up to now. IF YOU DON'T WANT PRESIDENT ZUMA JUST STICK THAT POINT NOT MAKE MALICIOUS STATEMENT THOSE WHO WANT HIM WILL NOMINATE AND VOTE FOR HIM.
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Phathuza

We are not making malicious statement we telling it as it is with out fear or fever ,KAWUKHONJWA

You are blind my friend here in SA WE NEED A LEADER WITH MORALS
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Phathuza

We cant wacth and fold our arms while see the country is going down the drain, KAWUKHONJWA ur reasoning capacity is not up to standard , Dont try influence other people you need to think out of the box , 100% Zulu suppoter sies

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Mzabalazo

KAWUKHONJWA
My goodness how do you deny what happened yesterday?
Vavi, Phosa, Nzimande , Malema, were outside the last courts with the cohorts of the ANCLY promising that should the court continue with the trial of Zuma SA was going to be painted red. Vavi was the biggest water mouth for Zuma not to stand trial. Google the archives . You are not going to tell me that you forgot so quick. It is okay to love ZJ there is no crime in that but do not try and distort what happened.
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Mzabalazo

Khawukhonjwa
Remember that the policy of both the ANC and the ANC govt that it has adopted has been and still is no foreign interference. So what Mbeki would have done was simplly not to sign at UN security for the attach of Libya , Zuma signed it knowingly , the UN Security needed only one signature to upset the balance and attack, which Zuma gave it to them. Some argue that even if Zuma did not sign the West would have found a way to attack Libya, my argument on that atleast it would not have been by the assistance of Zuma. 4 years down the lane you will be denying that Zuma did sign for the attack of a person who was financially supporting him when Mbeki threw him in the cold.
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Khawukhonjwa
Zuma never stood for the corrupt case, he went to the courts to dismiss his case, he went to Mauritius to ask the courts in that country not to release the diary of one of the Tint officials which was implicating him on the arms deal corruption. As soon as JZ won the presidency of the ANC Pikoli was dismissed and a new NPA prosecutor dismissed the case. This is to jog your memory of the events . Vavi was Zuma' s foot soldier then.
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KAWUKHONJWA

You say JZ who were pioneer presidents of ANC, was langalibalele Dube Zulu chief did he gave up chieftain or did he leave Kwazulu No but he was the ANC president. Chief Albert Lithule did he up his chieftain up or did leave Kwazulu.So why JZ given label. There is one Kwazulu born wise leader, who live in JHB temporary and mixed other, Muzwakhe Anton Lembede who joined ANC @ his youth and pioneered the formation of ANCYL. He was Poisoned to death. If you want to know how valuable he is to ANC go and by his ideal compilled material book..' freedom of our time.' it cost R850.00. He never failed to emphasis his Zulu education of upbringing during his addressing the audience and vehemently denounced the township not wanting to work hard. If JZ is labelled let it be I don't feel shame but Iam proud
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Lehido

if he doesnt retain his post, Zuma sis going to take him into government......It happens everyday, remember Jimmy manyi?
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Mzabalazo

Khawukhonjwa
I don't think Zuma is attacked because he is Zulu, corruption, womanizing , making unsound decision has to do with which tribe does one comes from. And I find it very questioning if people support a political leader just because it comes from their tribe, that is scary and it sounds like Hotel Rwanda II. I do not criticize Zuma just because he is uMzulu. This is the problem I had when criticizing uMbeki, tribal oriented people said I was criticizing Mbeki simply because I am uMzulu, and not long Lindsay said I was criticizing Vavi just because I am umZulu. How is this? You criticize Zuma then you hate amaZulu, you criticize Vavi you hate amaXhosa, ain't it funny?
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KAWUKHONJWA

If you are talking of steward and tested cadre we talk of JZ. You will understand that the ANC has it own confidential information that can not be broadcast and now Jz is capable of protecting that information. While other when they are face with their challenges want to sit in front of the broadcast jouranalists to disclose such confidential information. If the oppositions of JZ are ready with their evidence then they must charge him. As we speak JZ have large support in New York who won't talk on the social network only but they always action their ideas to materialize, especial on the aspect of education where the JZ's heart is based.

@Mzabalazo
Your favourite critics or armchair thinkers did they see any need to have a SADEC leader in Africa union so that what ever they believe as their better thoughts or they well off SADEC countries can able to influence the rest of nothern countries for a better through the Union. No but the same people who hate JZ want to cause violance knowly themselves and their families won't.


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Mzabalazo

Khawukhonjwa

Unlike you I do not have favourite ctitics nor am I blank, wait for you to interprete the news for me, I cannot help it if one of the people I despise in politics sees the same issue as me. Wena address the issue the party and its govt of having a non- interference on African affair when desputes are concerns and reconciliate with Zuma signing for interference. I do not say the policy is wrong or right what I am saying is that Zuma either was ignorant of his action or breached the policy of his govt, either way that is wrong.
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