President Jacob Zuma denied on Thursday that his home town had been unfairly advantaged with R1 billion in taxpayers' funds for the Nkandla Mlalazi Smart Growth Centre.
Cry the beloved country, things are falling apart indeed, if only you knew that you will be on trial for the destruction of your country one day. Truly the beautiful ones are not born yet... Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
Babylicious
" A case of selective development".
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And who will foot the bill - poor taxpayers and ANC voters. Well at least by the time he gets voted off Nkandla will be a tourist town. Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
KennyS
This man brain cells do not exist. Zuma,you are telling the world that all other under developed places here in South Africa are being PUNISHED! You are a foolish man stupid old horny fart Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
Boogie1985
The NEW YORK CEETEY OF KWAZULU NATAL. Typical black man, o berekela ko gae. Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
Pitso.MCCMA.SAFA
@zuma
"Developing that area does not trouble me, it makes me very proud."
Not everything should rotate around you and your women slaves.
You developed showerland=zumaville=KZN New York city to nurse your rowdy ego and you have got a nerve to say you are proud to jump to Nkadla while other parts of RSA are in the developement list. You are arrogant president.I wonder why your double head does not think twice.
Nkandla deserves development like any other part of SA. So all you howlers, whiners and cry babies should just shut-up and mind your own business. You bark at everything and every move the poor JZ makes? Why? Are u so bored? Call it New York or Paris of KZN as your idols (ANCYL) often do when mockinge the project, but it will go ahead as planned. Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
Lesmyplace
I like it when people get frustrated with Monster Z and his chief whip Lemas' coz they created them now they cry **faul**shame Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
ancnduntsu
At least I did not vote for this Moron. Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
moralett
Mr Presindent we pay tax is the one use to Develop Nkandla, that does not negotiations, e-toll is another problem from you're side, we will pay tax take everything to Nkandla just because Mangaung is around the corner. But our tax money that you misuse you will pay one day Mr President. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
somaartakeit
I guess the truth will be determined by how gets the tender for said development if such persons have links or connected to zuma or his inner circles, that's what the DA must please try to find out,
All rural areas of SA should receive equal share of national resources (development) for anc regime failing to achieve that must result in the citizens in areas which are still not developed in the past 18yrs punishing the anc at the ballots in the upcoming elections. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
seutullamakunutu
Plautocracy generated out of greed and illeteracy is what this Zuma knows. Yes it wont bother him cause he never took time to study and know the effects , least common sense does not prevail.
He must step down. Sickening !!!! Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
|Sinudeity|
I see John Block will sway NProvince to vote Zuma in December if...
you know i was supporting this Man , i have now changed my mind , i think his advisers are making him a fool , how can he defend this scandal. Is it not possible to recall him before it is too late? , no wonder why foreign heads of state will find it fit to visit a retired President Mandela than a sitting president. South Africa and Africa can not afford to have this embarrassing president any more Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
MGEEZ
@All
I beg to differ with you on this one!!! Whilst I may not support JZ on many fronts; but I think that on this one we do not have a case in criticizing him, ultimately all rural villages in this country deserved to be developed and that includes Inkandla!!! Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Ratshufi
Good morning good people
It makes me so sad to hear our own president encouraging the improvement of a village wheras people around him are still depending on rivers for water and they dont even have electricity .... Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
somaartakeit
and for the light and yet real situation in our national politics here is Zapiro for you.
Boogie1985
The NEW YORK CEETEY OF KWAZULU NATAL. Typical black man, o berekela ko gae.
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there is nothing wrong with go berekela ko gae what is wrong is when his pals benefits from these projects at expense of tax payers, hence I said the DA must please find out who won the tender for such development. Development of our country is good even when done by zuma administration but it must done fairly and with due consideration to tax payers Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
|Sinudeity|
They come they take Its never enough because they cant relate
To the real world, thinking that the oyster is just for the pearl
They start those wars They want to own the land sea and all the stars
And right those wrongs they change their history with their poison forked tongues.
All right, whos they? A maybe its the government of today
Or B for the big business man who thinks the whole world revolves around him
Or C for the corrupt official for A and B he be the man in the middle
Or D for discoverer for Van Riebeeck and Columbus and the pirate plunderers.
Doesnt mean I aint got no fight now just because I dont got a gun
The lyrical is heavier than lead and this guitar is my canon
Just like my Martin and Nelson I'm gonna love Im gonna over come
Maybe its E for all of the above but I dont want to be
Wrong way going down the one way road
Wrong way going down the one way road
Wrong way going down the one way road
Gonna turn it all around gonna back it on up
These men who they say we should follow but we cant follow men if their hearts are hollow and
Mmmm yes how can we respect puppet regimes we do not elect?
Straight up straight up like Pinocchio And every time they lie man the fire just grows so
Nows time to be part of the solution raise your fist if you believe in revolution
Doesnt mean I aint got no fight now just because I dont got a gun
The lyrical is heavier than lead and this guitar is my canon
Just like my Martin and Nelson I'm gonna love Im gonna over come
Maybe its E for all of the above but I dont want to be Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Chichi7
I was so d isappointed in the manner in which J Z spoke to L indiwe from the D A in parliament. He actually had a voice to speak to a w oman and yet her has no b alls to comfront M alema to his f ace. I then realised that J Z has no b ack b one whatsoever to stand face to face with a man and he gives a voice of a uthority to a w oman? I lost all respect for him irrespective of what the subject at hand was. He will gain my respect the day he does mention M alema in a sentence and tell him to s hut up!!
As for this d evelopment, J Z can justify it all he wants but it does not make it right when other communities have no basic needs. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Tsope'
And this Sn@ke (Thuli Madonsela) agrees with wh!te, what did she drink at the DA party celebration. The people whats to exposed the truth they knew all along that this dumping of textbook all had to do with wh!~te people stup!d sabotage. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
somaartakeit
@Tsope you have no power to control Thuli the only power you have is to control your wife or girlfriend cause clearly you are a controlling freak, Madonsela can go to any gathering she wants to, its her democratic right and she doesn't need permission from the likes of you, Report Abuse
The worst leader that South Africa has ever had. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
my god, half of the money will come from the state (1 Billion), and what about the either half, where will it miraculously come form...chinease companies!
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come to think of it what happened to assassination, Americans were not assassinations their leaders for nothing, i mean Kennedy with Drugs, they knew him alive will f@k up the uSA, so he had to be chopped, and we are letting this Zuma stay alive, ppl come on
You could have stopped it, it shows your brain is not funtioning properly, too much sex confusses, you are not normal, you need to do brain scan, wher is your concious, does it work? I doubt it Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
somaartakeit
@Themadame2B-BBEE whilst I share your frustration with this guy but we should never reduce ourselves to the anc levels of murdering those we don't agree with, zuma must live long enough to witness the demise he inflicted upon unsuspecting and loyal supporters with his reckless spending the country's resources, I am convinced that this Nkandla development is another scam to siphon billions of tax payers money to keep the nests the zuma faction warm whilst majority in KZN live in abject poverty and without hope of ever come out of it, when national resources should be addressing issues such as crime, as things stands there is a new trend in KZN of serial k!llers, why has our national resources not been put to this issue by training the police so they can better identify serial killers?
Other countries that are run by educated leaders, they throw all resources available to address national issues, why is the anc regime not doing same? it took international pressure and sponsors in order for them to address aids/hiv by this time aids has already claimed lives, why have we got these leaders who are without a vision and common sense? why is failure for them not a shame? Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
somaartakeit
And then we have to endure another anc leaders BS about putting ppl first? I was amazed that the upheaval btwn the haves and the have nots in London didn't result in a massacre in SA where the gov is primitive 34 died in the hands of the police, this is failure of gov to produce capable leaders, cause the march in London was more violent and vicious it carried on for days in various parts of London, but the British police managed it well without murdering ppl, why did SAn police murder those ppl in Marikane? Why has no one in the gov resigned as yet? Now the anc president wants to make the Marikane issues as if its a Malema problem, Malema is the least of our national problems bad management of our country is at an acute stage, so for zuma to say the gov was going to act against Malema, he must taking us for idiots and is now trying to make it out as if Marikane was about Malema. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Chichi7
THEmadame2B-BBEE
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America always believed a better and bigger dream for the country and they protect it with their life. Assassinations are still the call of the day especially if the country will have a negative impact due to the partucular person.
We need to start having that bigger dream for RSA Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
|Sinudeity|
THEmadame2B - Kennedy was assasinated because of drugs?
Err... I dont think its the kennedy crackpipe who's business end is hot to the touch :P Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Shredder
Mbeki's legacy is Nepad and African Renaissance. Zuma's legacy is Nkandla, the New York City of Kwazulu Natal, so says Julius Malema. :-D Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
paracute
Mr.Pres. Tell these people that much of the country's budget for this financial year was mainly on infrastructure, the EPWP should see to it that developments are in process at their areas. these lazy, greedy, selfish and incompetent Councillors and municipal managers are one blocking the road to development, should you Mr. Pres be hands on every time and everywhere everything would run smoothly. i know there are those who don't see what you're doing in trying to better S A lives. you might not be educated but you are intelligent no one would have achieved what you have with the big country as S A.
we want developments but we're not paying for services instead we destroy the little that we have. the municipality would plant trees around our townships and our kids would destroy them, why can't we teach our children the importance of the beautiful environment. it is our responsibility as parents to teach these kids so they become better people tomorrow. department of roads and transport wwuld try paving roads we steal material for our own personal usage saying this is our tax, our country will never move forward with that kind of behavior.
let us be good role models to our children. if steal they will think that stealing is the way to achieving things the easy way come on guys. teach children that working hard is the only way to success. we seriously can't afford doing bad things for our country and then put the blame on the President not just uZuma even yena Malema should he be president as some of you wishes. but ultimately the president should be there whether we like it or not never who it might be. and those of you insulting current president you will be insulting the very same person that you are fighting for. of course there must be a change as the ruling party has said that the president of the party's one who'll lead the country. so should they elect another president he will be leader of the country if he wins the general elections that i doubt will win.
viva the independent mind viva. Flying solo aka paracute Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
SetlaboswanaBoy07
It is obvious mr president that you are going to defend that, you want to make a name for yourself at Nkandla, Shame on you at the expense on tax payers....by the way, are there mines at that place, how will developing that part of the country assist the economy, who will love to work there? doing what?....Zuma ke dunder head guys....Just step down Msholozi and save yourself from further humiliation. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
somaartakeit
@Chichi I'd have thought its bad enough that we have political assassination in KZN do we really need to continue with this trend and put our democracy at worse risk of being run by gun toting warlords? we must use our votes effectively, and we must demand that constitution is amended so that ppl can chose their leaders not have them chosen and imposed on them by a select few. Lastly, we should be voting on ISSUES not faces or cult following, cause this is doing our country more harm than good. Report Abuse
Yes, why must we develop only whites populated areas? No one complained when Gauteng government constructed a Gautrain. Rural areas must be developed and development must start somewhere.... Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Kaylae
The way Zuma spoke to Lindiwe was uncalled for,it shows he is power hungry.and I agree with Chichi couldn't call Malema by name WHY
Developing Nkandla is not a problem the problem is why all the focus there and making it NEW YORK whilst other villages have none and did he have to start with it NXA.He wants to finish before Mangaung cause he sees his days are over Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Phathuza
Corruption @its best Why this Rural development starts with Nkandla , This man is turning Nkandla into a New York @ expense of Tax payers , Paying for his wives is not enough , This coming December he will be marring Sonono Khoza and Next December a woman from Swazi land , Mzansi we need to get rid of this shower man or else our economy is going down Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
mhlupheki
i saw this questions that were directed to the president and, for i saw and heard there was nothing new which for me they dont have ideas except from those of the peoples, media and political analists. they all lack vision and creativity. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Stimela
read: www.marikanatruth.com
to find out how Cyril ramaphosa and Tokyo sexwale are ripping the poor off.
@DJ except for most of said development result in being the white elephants which are feeding on tax payers money without any ability to generate income, such as the Mabida stadium. Zuma should not just defend the situation he must breakdown (account) how many sustainable jobs will created in this project, and as gov tenders are prone to corrupt process, they tendering process must be open and fair. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
shakashaka
I am not one of his fans but ths time Msholozi is right. We are often told by certain race group that this city and that one was developed by apartheid regime now when we are doing our own we are criticed again. Nonsense. In EC we had 2 president but look at our province now. VIVA Msholozi kulondawo Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
MommaC
Did anyone hear him on TV this morning? Our dear President seems to think that having a 'majority' means that he has more rights than anyone else. It may be a language issue or it may be that our President is completely clueless about how democracy works. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
somaartakeit
just to remind you in case you have forgotten, that a certain municipality is buying tickets to hand out in order to fill the stadium, just how does that justify such abuse of our meager resources to such luxury? when that money should be channeled towards health or education or security issues or even training police so they can better do their jobs? it is this thoughtless expenditure which riles so many, but I know you will come up with excuse to blindly defend and support reckless waste of our resources cause you are not capable to see beyond tribe, and try to be upright and condemn outrageous waste of our resources on politically or tribally connected individuals, I also know that you defended that zwelithini wants 16mil or something to that effect to fund a pad for his 6th shag, you justified this using your culture, do you not realise that by this behaviour you are putting your culture in a negative light? Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
I’m kind surprised that we do not see the CIA being involved in RSA politics, mara y, i mean they operated everywhere in Africa, and the killing of Lumumba (Poor Pres died for nothing), and her we have Zuma who is left to live just like that, mara What’s up Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
somaartakeit
!@MommaC
Did anyone hear him on TV this morning? Our dear President seems to think that having a 'majority' means that he has more rights than anyone else. It may be a language issue or it may be that our President is completely clueless about how democracy works.
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Zuma is an unthinking fool that is why is able to shameless utter this un presidential remarks without thought of how they will be received, imagine if Obama was to speak to Americans the way Zuma speaks to SAns, but again education plays a huge role in ones life, so I guess we must try to live the best we can with our uneducated/uneducatable president. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Shredder
@DJ-Winner
Yes, why must we develop only whites populated areas? No one complained when Gauteng government constructed a Gautrain. Rural areas must be developed and development must start somewhere....
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Agreed, but why not start at Tlhatlhaganyane or Manamela for example? That would stop the accusations like these. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
candilious
Listening to this p@Oes i nearly broke my damn TV jirrrrreeeeeee was very nanchalant and arrogant about the whole thing. Not to mention the Madikane incident when Lindiwe had him by the balls his answers were as if two friends talking 1 boasting of having all while the other does not even have a decent pair of takkies .
God all Mighty i pray for our beloved country
@MommaC/Sin/MGEEZ/Somaar..........Morning ..........i see dead people Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Sugaar
He is building a white elephent,who is going to maitain those things when he is no longer going to be a pres. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
DJ-Winner
Shredder
@DJ-Winner
Yes, why must we develop only whites populated areas? No one complained when Gauteng government constructed a Gautrain. Rural areas must be developed and development must start somewhere....
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Agreed, but why not start at Tlhatlhaganyane or Manamela for example? That would stop the accusations like these.
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Development must start somewhere. If it was to start in Tlhatlhaganyane or Manamela, people who don't stay there would again question it. It is impossible to make everybody happy. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Moffdat
I am looking forward to seeing the progress this new programme is holding to yeild. They have targeted so many communities and the budget is off the charts.
@ALL ANC
Let this project not turn into another one of those where hundreds of millions will go unaccouted for! Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
MommaC
DJ-Winner
Have you ever been on the Gautrain? It isn't exactly a 'whites only' train and once the bus service is integrated, we will see it becoming even more popular.
Two kms from where Zumaville is due to be erected are villages with ZERO water, sanitation or schools. How does that make sense? Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
somaartakeit
and The Madame2b, can you spot difference in leadership btwn Lumamba and zuma? its convenient for the west for us to have these no brainers like zuma, will not think twice before pawning off our resources that is why I say, we the ppl must ensure that our votes advance our cause,
look also in Congo they have killing fields and raping fields and yet Kabile flies to the west on a private jet to deliver diamonds, but I will not blame the west for this I blame the ppl of congo for failing to remove kabila from power and elect decent ledership for themselves. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
candilious
MommaC
Did anyone hear him on TV this morning? Our dear President seems to think that having a 'majority' means that he has more rights than anyone else. It may be a language issue or it may be that our President is completely clueless about how democracy works
______________________________________________________Girl you have no idea i wanna drink right now as i am seriously in shock or denial ..............cant make a choice which 1 thats how f@cked up i am after this man uttered those words Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
MommaC
somaartakeit
It is just damn embarrassing. What the hell were the ANC thinking when they shoved him into the big chair?
candilious,
Morning doll.
Jirrie ek het amper duur die TV geklim om vir hom a lekker p*es klap te gee. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
shakashaka
Most freedom fighters came from EC but have you seen the home of Oliva Tambo in EC, Chris Hani's home, Sisulu, Mbeki you name them. Have you seen the state of Healdtown College. What is the use of looking good to the outside world while the place you grew up is in bad state. What is the use of driving expesive cars in Gauteng or Cape Town while you have not help build a small rondavel back home in EC / KZN.
We can insult Zuma as much as we can but this time he is doing a good job Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
somaartakeit
Moffdat
I am looking forward to seeing the progress this new programme is holding to yeild. They have targeted so many communities and the budget is off the charts.
@ALL ANC
Let this project not turn into another one of those where hundreds of millions will go unaccouted for!
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knowing how the anc tenderprenuering schemes always end up, I wouldn't be holding my breath, if this project was to take off, zuma would not be defending instead he would furnish stats showing how much sustainable jobs will be created as a result of this expenditure, but anc leaders know they are not accountable so his subjects will let him get away with this, Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
thinya
Development is development, well done JZ, If I'm given a chance to rule the country I'll do the same, charity begins at home, remember? Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Tasto
Evryday he wakes up to devend or explain himself,damn Polokwane !! Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
somaartakeit
@MC they were thinking 'corruption obfuscation, lies and more lies' and of course unaccountable for any of that, even now I don't believe that zuma personally wants second term the very same corrupt clique that shoved him into the big chair want him to have second term so they can continue looting, and for blade the stakes are high, he is gunning for VP position in the country, Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
DJ-Winner
somaartakeit
@DJ except for most of said development result in being the white elephants which are feeding on tax payers money without any ability to generate income, such as the Mabida stadium. Zuma should not just defend the situation he must breakdown (account) how many sustainable jobs will created in this project, and as gov tenders are prone to corrupt process, they tendering process must be open and fair.
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We cannot compare this developemt to a stadium. Again we know that some people are sabotaging the Moses Mabhida stadium for their own personal reasons. There is nothing we can do about that.
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Sugaar
He is building a white elephent,who is going to maitain those things when he is no longer going to be a pres.
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So you say the next president will not care about KZN? Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
somaartakeit
@Thinya we support development of any area but what is to say this is not yet another of the many anc tender-preneuring schemes? what guarantee we have that our money is not going to be channeled to the politically connected mafia backing zuma's second term so they can milk tax payers cash cow some more? Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
kayaaman
dat mean limpopo pupils r also being punished!way to go mr double head! plz choose ur words carefully!!
This crocekd head guy is drunk, little did he know that Nkandla was supposed to be the last place for development because he comes from there. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
lindsay
while you are defending Nkandla who is defending people that are murdered everyday by protesting mine workers? in fact who is defending the country ? i'm beggining to think may be Malema is on something on trying to rise everybody you not that you are not contributing to the cause usisilima. Report Abuse
@DJ I am not comparing more than I am saying I wll be convinced of its authenticity when I see it materialise and in order for zuma or whoever is rensponsible for this probject to justify it, they must provide stats of HOW MANY JOBS (SUSTAINABLE) will be created, we can't be on this spending thrift without tangible gains to justify such expenditure, that is all that I am saying, and I gave example of how some of the project haven't taken off ito generating income to sustain themselves such as the moses Mabida which is said to be financed by the gov (tax payers) to fill its capacity, we don't need nor do we have time for this BS. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Somaar
read between the lines, I’m not differentiating between Lumumba and Zum, but I’m saying there's more to this than what meets the eye, i mean really great leaders were assassinated because obviously they were seen as a threat to the global ‘new order’, the CIA were involved in African affairs because it’s the USA who decides who should be in power and who should be slaughtered, not y shouldn’t Zuma be slaughtered
candilious
Listening to this p@Oes i nearly broke my damn TV jirrrrreeeeeee
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The proper term is MR PRESIDENT... No thanks needed! Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
somaartakeit
Okay then TheMadame2b when you put it in that way I agree with you, there is conspiracy here, but we as citizens must chose leaders who work for our interests.
Have you ever been on the Gautrain? It isn't exactly a 'whites only' train and once the bus service is integrated, we will see it becoming even more popular.
Two kms from where Zumaville is due to be erected are villages with ZERO water, sanitation or schools. How does that make sense?
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I know that. White people can also go to Nkandla, who is stopping them. We can also make Nkandla interracial...My point here is that people didn't complain because that development was in urban areas and was going to help white people as well. It is a fault of the aparteid that they failed to develop rural areas and only developed areas for minority. We are trying to address that problem... Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
somaartakeit
@candilious
Listening to this p@Oes i nearly broke my damn TV jirrrrreeeeeee
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LOL he induces that rage in you? that's how I used to feel in the first 2yrs of his tenure then I accepted that he is fool he can't help himself, but now I blame the anc for appointing a fool for president. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
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DJ-Winner - LOL dude, are you trying to make nkandla a white issue now? Trying to use a race-card to justify this gross incompetence and misappropriation of funds? Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
MommaC
DJ-Winner
No DJ.
People did not complain because it was needed. Joburg and Pta are pretty much one city now and there are an awful lot of people who need to get from one end to the other. Gauteng NEEDED a public transport system. KZN doesn't need a private shopping mall for Zuma's million and 63 wives and girlfriends, what it NEEDS is infrastructure. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Chichi7
@ DJ-Winner
Gautrain was a need that went to a lot of people and to an extent reduced traffic and time spent between PTA and JHB and ORT.
Please understand that a need and a want are totally different and Zumaville can not be justified in anyway. I do not think there would be an uproar if he was building houses, hospitals/clinic and schools. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
somaartakeit
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DJ-Winner - LOL dude, are you trying to make nkandla a white issue now? Trying to use a race-card to justify this gross incompetence and misappropriation of funds?
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it is actually amusing that he would use race card as a defence considering that majority who are opposed to this are blacks not whites, whites generally don't give a fig cause they know how to survive this mismanagement of our country, white ppl invest in education of their children so that they will not end up being slaves to uneducated and corrupt leaders, whilst foolish blacks amuse themselves with stupid things such as building of a shopping mall. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
candilious
somaartakeit
@candilious
Listening to this p@Oes i nearly broke my damn TV jirrrrreeeeeee
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LOL he induces that rage in you? that's how I used to feel in the first 2yrs of his tenure then I accepted that he is fool he can't help himself, but now I blame the anc for appointing a fool for president.
____________________I feel sick to my gut i tell you.....seriously i sad it yesterday some people think their are GODS.......... Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Moffdat
somaartakeit
I understand your apprehension but we should be optomistic. At the end of the day the people corrupting the ANC are our neighbours not the leadership. Bra Vusi and Mr van Niekerk are the ones perpetuating corruption! The executive has put a programme in place it is up to the people to be honest. I hope the avergae South African can manage that much but we'll see.
@candilious
How are you? You may disrespect The President but he is still The President and by virtue of his stature i believe he deserves to be ridiculed with integrity! Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
MommaC
somaartakeit
candilious
I just can't understand how we devolved from Madiba to Mbeki and then to THIS. Goes to show how wrong Darwin really was!
Problem is that until the arms deal and the tape saga goes away, Zuma has no choice but to go for a second term. He either has to bury it for good or find someone just as corrupt as he is so that he can be sure never to have to answer in a court of law Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
DJ-Winner
MommaC
DJ-Winner
No DJ.
People did not complain because it was needed. Joburg and Pta are pretty much one city now and there are an awful lot of people who need to get from one end to the other. Gauteng NEEDED a public transport system. KZN doesn't need a private shopping mall for Zuma's million and 63 wives and girlfriends, what it NEEDS is infrastructure.
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Rural areas need to be developed. Development is necessary. I don't know about other things you are talking about...
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DJ-Winner - LOL dude, are you trying to make nkandla a white issue now? Trying to use a race-card to justify this gross incompetence and misappropriation of funds?
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No, it is a reality of the situation... Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
somaartakeit
@Candi, believe me I know how you must feel, especially if you have to watch this fool everyday but please gal don't let it get under your skin in that way, you need your energy and your positive thinking most importantly you need to be in good health to help you sail through this murky waters our country is going through, stand strong skat and campaign hard for civilised and decent leaders for our country, do it for your children:-) Report Abuse
I understand your apprehension but we should be optomistic.
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I don't waste optimism on zuma and his no brainer projects, when it comes to money spending I am a REALIST maybe that's why I am where I am and without any debts. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
|Sinudeity|
DJ-Winner - No its not dude. You are just trying to use 'wit gevaar' to win your stupid argument. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Kabelo10
Zuma and the ANC Mafia Syndicate are beyond repair/corrupt ...fortunately or infortunately, depending on the side of the fence. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
somaartakeit
|Sinudeity|
DJ-Winner - No its not dude. You are just trying to use 'wit gevaar' to win your stupid argument.
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So then why are you worried cause ppl using half a brain cell are able to see through this 'wit gevaar' scheme anc and its supporters have adopted even Malema said blacks were better off under apartheid regime, Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Zero57
You got yourselves into this SA. Next time you go vote, think wisely and think for the future too. This stupid president has shown us that really his family and himself come first. SA is doomed. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
MommaC
DJ-Winner
you don't seem to know much about what ANYONE is talking about :( Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
somaartakeit
one of the bloggers above spoke about zuma's legacy, well its simple its the Marikane massacre like Gqozo has his tally on the Bisho massacre, anc zuma has 44 in Marikane alone, so chilax history shall judge zuma administration, that's not to say Mbeki was a saint he allowed Manto to garlic-beetroot unsuspecting aids sufferers,
somaartakeit - True. Even had julius supporting hellen this week. Think alot of brains divided by zero this week. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
DJ-Winner
somaartakeit is now taking seriously things being said by Malema. If aparteid was good for you ha ha ha..., they I don't know. Try and see if you can find ways to bring it back..ha ha ha... Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
DA-DBN-GUY
DJ-Winner
I do seem to recall that there was a lot said about the Gautrain and how it would not benefit the poor. Plus all the world cup stadiums were also frowned upon as a luxury we didnt need nor could afford, All these reservations have proven to be true. I doubt it is mere coincedence that Zoomers hometown is being developed to the tune of R1billion when there are schools and other projects that have been started and never completed. Zoomer is creating his own retirement village for when his days of stealing from all of us are at an end. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Tasto
Soon after his 1990 release from 27 years in prison, Mandela built a small house on his family plot in Qunu. It is an exact replica of the dwelling where he spent the last years of his incarceration at Cape Town’s Victor Vester prison. He has since built a bigger house, where he stays when visiting his home town.
What development in his home village did N.Mandela made ?
P.S The Walter Sisulu Paediatric Cardiac Foundation (WSPCF) is a philanthropic paediatric cardiac foundation for Africa, focussing on delivering life-saving surgery for underprivileged children with congenital heart disorders from across Africa. The foundation has its headquarters at Netcare Sunninghill Hospital.
you don't seem to know much about what ANYONE is talking about :(
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Ok, I think I know... Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
DJ-Winner
DJ-Winner
somaartakeit is now taking seriously things being said by Malema. If aparteid was good for you ha ha ha..., then I don't know. Try and see if you can find ways to bring it back..ha ha ha...
Any development goes to Kwazulu natal ngidiniwe ligama underdeveloped area Inkandla was destruct by amabutho wakwa zulu.King zwelithini want money 2 develop his home, give him bcos ur bra Zuma. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
DJ-Winner
DA-DBN-GUY
DJ-Winner
I do seem to recall that there was a lot said about the Gautrain and how it would not benefit the poor. Plus all the world cup stadiums were also frowned upon as a luxury we didnt need nor could afford, All these reservations have proven to be true. I doubt it is mere coincedence that Zoomers hometown is being developed to the tune of R1billion when there are schools and other projects that have been started and never completed. Zoomer is creating his own retirement village for when his days of stealing from all of us are at an end.
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Well, that is your opinion. I guess you have to watch the space Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
somaartakeit
DJ-Winner
somaartakeit is now taking seriously things being said by Malema. If aparteid was good for you ha ha ha..., they I don't know. Try and see if you can find ways to bring it back..ha ha ha...
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there's a ring of truth in some of the things he says its only sad that he waiting till he was enemies with zuma before highlighting (obvious to some) widening disparities btwn the poor and uber rich.
As for @partheid, it is a fact that ppl in SA lived longer than 54yrs which is now general life expectancy rate under anc regime, and also infant mortality rate is now higher, and text books were not burned down they were delivered to the B@ntu Education schools, hence generation of black middle class generating economy today is coming from that era whilst hte anc regime has lost generation post 1994 and reduced them into social grants charity cases, try deny this fact in a typical anc fashion and blame apartheid whilst at it. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
MthakathiOmkhulu
One thing l respect about amaZulu is their golden heart, that why God will always make the prosper. I supported Mandela (he is Xhosa) l supported Mbheki (he is Xhosa) l have n will never insult them. It pains me to see abantu (abamnyama njengami) not respecting a Zulu president. I expect this from some white people cos abantu abafani. What happened to constructive criticism. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Moffdat
somaartakeit
Moffdat
somaartakeit
I understand your apprehension but we should be optomistic.
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I don't waste optimism on zuma and his no brainer projects, when it comes to money spending I am a REALIST maybe that's why I am where I am and without any debts.
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Like i said at the end of the day it is not Zuma or Matlhathe or Sexwale who steal money meant to benefit the poor and South African community at large. It's people like you and I. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
|Sinudeity|
Moffdat - "Like i said at the end of the day it is not Zuma or Matlhathe or Sexwale who steal money meant to benefit the poor and South African community at large."
@MthakathiOmkhulu - no one is hating any ethinic group its just a certain ethnic group has been perptuating a lie of "Xhosa-nostra" in government like every white person always whinging abt blacks\A.A.
and whilst at @partheid achievements vs anc non achievements, prior to 1994 no one in SA heard about massacre of the miners, if you don't believe me ask the Rothschilds, De Beers and the Openheimers, and ask the families of the dead miners what they think. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
candilious
@Moffdat-hehehehheh Integrity you say...........you made my day thanx for taking the egde off
@Somaar -Ja nee im leaving my wrk place at 12 & join the miners i am striking for a NEW PRESIDENT ...................lol Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
P4T
Rural development does not only entail physical infrastructure development Mr President, Sir. Whoever is advising you that this is rural development fire them. Unless off course it is some sort of a honey pot for your cronies disguised as rural development. In which case carry on Sir with the development since the motive is to secure support for yourself when the times come.
Please don't insult our intelligence coz those in the know and studied rural development know that it entails SUSTAINABLE rural economic development activities and industries tied with such infrastructure development. If it were true rural development why is the planning of such not include ALL rural areas? Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
somaartakeit
@Moffdat
somaartakeit
Moffdat
somaartakeit
I understand your apprehension but we should be optomistic.
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I don't waste optimism on zuma and his no brainer projects, when it comes to money spending I am a REALIST maybe that's why I am where I am and without any debts.
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Like i said at the end of the day it is not Zuma or Matlhathe or Sexwale who steal money meant to benefit the poor and South African community at large. It's people like you and I.
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maybe you steal things from other ppl, but you shouldn't judge me by your standards, and I didn't vote for the anc thieving regime so I sleep easy at night cause I know my vote didn't contribute to the demise of black majority who pinned their hopes to the anc regime. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
|Sinudeity|
Tasto - Or every black person always whinging about white people ne. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
clevergirl
may b if mr president can jus tel us gore ke criteria efe e sebedisitsweng 2 end up utilizin so much mani kogo,re tla hlaloganya.da main Q here is Y ikandla Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
somaartakeit
@Candi, see you at the protest then galfriend, I will be hold my placard pride right behind you, lol Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
malemaforpresident
Developing that area does not trouble me, it makes me very proud."
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it should not trouble him when the Miners in Marikana/Lonmin demand R12500 Why not be proud that the miners demand a living wage die groot kop earn R2m p/a divide it by 12 it is shocking and yet state resources are being used to develop sex- village Nkandla nxaaa selfish dude
somaartakeit
DJ-Winner
somaartakeit is now taking seriously things being said by Malema. If aparteid was good for you ha ha ha..., they I don't know. Try and see if you can find ways to bring it back..ha ha ha...
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there's a ring of truth in some of the things he says its only sad that he waiting till he was enemies with zuma before highlighting (obvious to some) widening disparities btwn the poor and uber rich.
As for @partheid, it is a fact that ppl in SA lived longer than 54yrs which is now general life expectancy rate under anc regime, and also infant mortality rate is now higher, and text books were not burned down they were delivered to the B@ntu Education schools, hence generation of black middle class generating economy today is coming from that era whilst hte anc regime has lost generation post 1994 and reduced them into social grants charity cases, try deny this fact in a typical anc fashion and blame apartheid whilst at it.
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ha ha ha ha....People forget we have deseases like AIDS these days. These deseases were not very much common 30 years ago...
People forget that Limpopo is trying its best to sabotage the admin of Umsholozi, hence the books issues and most of other problems coming that side...
Anyway, good luck with your aparteid return. Unfortunately, right wing people just got convicted few weeks ago... Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
somaartakeit
of course first cases of aids were id'ed in the USA amazingly sufferers there still live today, whilst in SA they were garlic-beetrooted to their early graves by the anc regime,
zuma is incompetent don't make excuses for him and don't blame malema for zuma's lack of leadership skills. Malema wld have NEVEr been in our public discourse were it not for mr incompetent (read zuma).
It doesn't bother me who got convicted what bothers me is a leadership vacuum which guys like Malema are now filling cause we have a showerhead for a head of state brandishing its mshini wam left right and centre not even his friends daughters are safe from his spear, that is what bothers. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Dandan
Dear All
I need clarity , I am located in Nongoma which is 50 kms to Nkandla, farmer specialising in poultry and egg production. I was under the impression that Zumaville will serve as my market base in addition to Mkuze, Jozini, Monguzi and increase the number of people I employ in Nongoma.
considering all your suggestions , opinions about Zumaville, what is your take in my business that creates jobs for 20 people, I would like to hear from you.
somaartakeit
@Candi, see you at the protest then galfriend, I will be hold my placard pride right behind you, lol
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Sep 14, 2012
Djembe
I just wonder how S. africans think? For U Tata a lot was done in the former transkei especially eQunu with Tax payers money and everybody found this in order for uTata planes and helicopters are flying all over with his medical team financed by the taxpayers money and agin this is fine. So what is the big deal with Inkandla being developed? We are just a bunch of people who invest a lot of time on not so important things. WHY IS MALEMA traveling in such luxurious cars who is funding him? Recenlty a lot of money was spent on Social Cohesion what did come out of it? Sometimes I wonder about my fellow country men and women. It is amazing that the whites are not interested in such useless discussions they are busy focusing on the economy and blacks are busy pointing fingers at each other. Shame Mzantsians... Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Djembe
@maneater you sound like your name, zero intergrity.. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Mzabalazo
We have already gone down the hill, the issue now at hand is that we SA rise again, and who will take it to the right direction? My fear is tht our resources are not infinite and if we find our way out won't we be like Haiti, having no enough natura resources to take us forward. What the people are depleting are not going to be reimbursed , we can take the buildings and the remaining loot but the value would not be as much as the natural resources that they have misused for their gain. I s Zuma aware of ghost towns, a town built next to mines or factories as soon as these pillars fall, the town falls too. So how can one build a city where there is no economic stability, was he not suppose to build factories that processes the rural production and concentrated on guilting primary health care, make sure that all residents have water, electricity, schools and recreation like playing grounds and the rest was going to take care of itself, the investment on the rural economy was going to build a city eventually. The people in the rural Nkandla will move to the city and live a beautiful Zuma life, but people who have money from sorrounding areas will bu#y houses and live there, the shopping complex ( supermarkets , shops, security, banks etc.) will employ mostly people not living in eNkandla, if we go on how the SA norms of employment goes. It's will be like building Santdton next to Alexandra, that did not change the plight of the majority. I never thought that I will see the mentality of Mobutho, Banda , Matanzima and Mphephu in a new SA. Well done Zuma, well done. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Tasto
@Djembe - be specific Sir support with facts not wild imaginations or stereotype NelsonMandela as typical African leader like Zuma!!Thabo Mbeki tried to keep the status quo not to give in to WesternStereotype but was reviled !!
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Tasto - Or every black person always whinging about white people ne
Pardon my laarney forgot of crackers like you and RobinH who love black ppl and affirmative Action, you are for Youth wage subsidy mos afta all Madam said so!! Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Moffdat
@Candi
When you insult the president you must use Sir, Mr or Ntate. If that is too much at least use big words! e.g. Mr President is a Neanderthal!
@somaartakeit
come on guy. I used you and i to refer to the common south african. Our inability to do more than just complain is giving people the comfort they need to continue being corrupt. The leaders of the ANC are attributed these evils vicariously but the people around us - our neighbours who are actually stealing the money.
@Sinu
see my comment above Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
MGEEZ
@DJ-Winner
Yes, why must we develop only whites populated areas? No one complained when Gauteng government constructed a Gautrain. Rural areas must be developed and development must start somewhere....
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Good point!!!!! Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Stimela
its not Zumaville - its Nkandla rural town development
the DA wants to punish the people of Nkandla just because JZ was born there, NO! Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
|Sinudeity|
Tasto - Pardon my whiskey tangoness, but arent you always here blaming the white man for non delivery of textbooks, poverty, lack of transformation, failed education system, corruption and incompetence in government? Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
|Sinudeity|
Stimela - Hehe, now blaming the DA. Eish, the 'wit gevaar' is strong with this one. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Tasto
@ Sinudeity|
Tasto - Pardon my whiskey tangoness, but arent you always here blaming the white man for non delivery of textbooks, poverty, lack of transformation, failed education system, corruption and incompetence in government
No always fite racist like you and not tolerating tribalismðnicity!!
Moffdat - "Our inability to do more than just complain is giving people the comfort they need to continue being corrupt."
No, voting for the ANC is what is promoting the corruption. John Block made a deal with JZ, to squash his corruption charges if he brings NW to support JZ at mangaung. And yet here you want to blame the citizens for being corrupt? Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
MGEEZ
@Stimela
its not Zumaville - its Nkandla rural town development
the DA wants to punish the people of Nkandla just because JZ was born there, NO!
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You should be indifferent what others call Inkandla, seeing that freedom of speech is their democratic right!!! The point is, regardless of what they call it; it is and will remain Inkandla!!!! Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
malemaforpresident
@Djembe
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Dude do you really compare utata Mandela to Shower? that is totally incomparable Rolihlahla is a respectable man internationally not only in Africa but globally who on earth will ever respect a poligamist? unless one does not understand the word poligamist if i were supposed to choose between a zooolu and a Xhosa i will go for a Xhosa Nxaaaa
Tasto - Yeah, you are a tribalist. You along with quite a high percentage of commentators on sowetan. Always raging against the white tribe of South Africa.
Whenever someone calls me a 'racist', then its either a pro-JZ, or pro-Malema douchebag. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
PAPARAZ
I started to dislike and doubt this thing ( suma) from the time he occupied the office. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
DJ-Winner
somaartakeit
of course first cases of aids were id'ed in the USA amazingly sufferers there still live today, whilst in SA they were garlic-beetrooted to their early graves by the anc regime,
zuma is incompetent don't make excuses for him and don't blame malema for zuma's lack of leadership skills. Malema wld have NEVEr been in our public discourse were it not for mr incompetent (read zuma).
It doesn't bother me who got convicted what bothers me is a leadership vacuum which guys like Malema are now filling cause we have a showerhead for a head of state brandishing its mshini wam left right and centre not even his friends daughters are safe from his spear, that is what bothers.
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Well Mbeki and Manto gave people garlic-beetrooted, not Zuma. We cannot blame Zuma for that...Zuma is giving people ARV's; the world leaders as well as UN are singing him praises in that regard.
I did not blame Malema here. I said I was suprised with you praising Malema as you always bashing him here. You use Malema for your own good to support your senseless points here...Who is in a right state of mind will wish for the return of aparteid? ANC is not the best of governments we agree, but aparteid? Come on now... Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
malemaforpresident
@|Sinudeity|
Tasto - Yeah, you are a tribalist. You along with quite a high percentage of commentators on sowetan. Always raging against the white tribe of South Africa.
Whenever someone calls me a 'racist', then its either a pro-JZ, or pro-Malema douchebag
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Actually pinkiies should not be allowed to comment here cause they are not residing in Soweto
Tsheeek Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Lord-Have-Mercy
When there are developments in our townships like Schools, Libraries, Sport Facilities, etc where we already have electricity and water but people fail to complain about electricity and water for other places that dont have them Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Tasto
@Sinudeity|
Tasto - Yeah, you are a tribalist. You along with quite a high percentage of commentators on sowetan. Always raging against the white tribe of South Africa.
Whenever someone calls me a 'racist', then its either a pro-JZ, or pro-Malema douchebag.
Aagh man you pigeon-hole me now with no viable alternative eventhough I still believe in Black Consciousness!!
@Mzabalazo - Mobutho is appropriate comparison to the current president who think taxpayers money is his kity.Mobuto Seseko used to lend his country money to pay civil servants to fix roads and he had a private army.Here we have KZN-MKVA seeing themselves as JZ body gaurds maybe really on same path like Zaire!!
Not voting ANC is not going to stop the people who already have jobs at your local municipality from being corrupt. It is not going to stop lazy nurses and teachers from being lazy. It is not going to change You and I in any material facet. That is why i would rather focus on our community as a whole instead of blaming a bunch of people who have their hands tied day in and out with office administration! Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
candilious
Moffdat
@Candi
When you insult the president you must use Sir, Mr or Ntate. If that is too much at least use big words! e.g. Mr President is a Neanderthal!
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Never please dont ever tell me what i should or should not do he is your president if it suits you to l!ck his toes fine by me. But please dont expect me to bow down Gracefully..................He is a disgrace that deserves no respect not even from a do!g.............. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Lord-Have-Mercy
MGEEZ
@DJ-Winner
Yes, why must we develop only whites populated areas? No one complained when Gauteng government constructed a Gautrain. Rural areas must be developed and development must start somewhere....
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Good point!!!!!
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Lord-Have-Mercy
MGEEZ
@DJ-Winner
Yes, why must we develop only whites populated areas? No one complained when Gauteng government constructed a Gautrain. Rural areas must be developed and development must start somewhere....
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Good point!!!!!
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Good point indeed!!!
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Thanks people for appreciation... Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
DrunkenMaster
Thats Politics, get rich or retire trying. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
JIGSAWPUZZEL
@SOMAARTAKEIT
i acknowledge that people like you exist in our society but some of us will tolerate ra.sists like you and only hope your children are not learning anything from you because you are s.tupid. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Tasto
@Idiotor \ Webteam wena Mkabela – u removed my previous comment on this !!
Please put up the latest NEWS Jacob Zuma to re-introduce State Of Emergency for the firsttime in Democratic SouthAfrica like PW Botha in the 1980s.
@DJ-Winner
Lord-Have-Mercy
MGEEZ
@DJ-Winner
Yes, why must we develop only whites populated areas? No one complained when Gauteng government constructed a Gautrain. Rural areas must be developed and development must start somewhere....
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Good point!!!!!
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Good point indeed!!!
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U ppl Can’t compare JHB and a small rural one-donkey town\village, the powerhouse of Economy in Africa let alone SouthAfrica!!Gautrain\JHB feed Nkanda not the other way round !!Next time try to compare apples with apples!!
Now Malema is going to be KILLED, can I propose a commission of enquiry in advance to give JZ a headstart?
I may not respect The President as a natural person. Because i don't understand Zuma as a natural person. I don't understand 6 wives but it is his custom. I don't understand 20 something children but that is his custom too. I also know that the reason i don't understand it is because it is not my custom. If you have my beliefs and do those things you are irresponsible and reckless. However i was raised christian and grew up in modern day metropolis. Zuma is a 70 year old from Nkandla!
I respect the office of the Presidency and The President of the republic. He has attained the ultimate distinction and i will give caesar his due respect!
p.s. someone lost their sense of humour today. What is wrong my diabetes causing deitress? Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Mhambuma1
Stop being so jealous of the people of Inkandla, mense. I dont recall any1 of u moaning so loudly when Madiba developed his Qunu village. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Mzabalazo
SEP 14, 2012
DJ-Winner
Lord-Have-Mercy
MGEEZ
@DJ-Winner
Yes, why must we develop only whites populated areas? No one complained when Gauteng government constructed a Gautrain. Rural areas must be developed and development must start somewhere....
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Good point!!!!!
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Good point indeed!!!
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You missed a point , if Gautrain was say traveling between Naledi and Phomolong, it would not be called a development, as it would have been sectarian, and not economical, Gautrain is region wise and and it is sustainable. But building a pre- Ghost city is not economical, if Msholozi was building a factory in eNkandla, and developing the rural areas local production and thus allow the goods to be processed in eNkandla factory, make sure that the villages have basic necessities such as running water, renewable energy, such as solar system electricity , clinic/ hospital, that would be sustainable job creation and developing of iNkandla, that I will support because a part of our community will develop and it will be a mile stone, minus one. but building a city, that is wasteful and unsustainable as the people of iNKandla will still remain in the undeveloped area whilst the majority of rich and middle class will be bu#ying houses and living in that city, only a few people for eNkandla will be employed in those banks, swimming pools, shops and restaurant. Guys a city is the result of a developing area not the other way round. Durban was not build as a city just to develop people in that area, jobs in that area, due to goods been transported , fishing, sugar cane developed Durban (uMkhumbane) into a city not the other way round, same as Joburg, I still my great grand's photo of the old Joburg. You cannot just build a city for the sake of developing the area , but you build business that will eventually develop a city. This will be disaster, cities that are built in Dubai around the sea were build for pleasure and when the recession started most people lost their houses and some were taken to court, as those houses were built for luxury, yes people got employed to built and do other things but as soon as the project was finished these sea cities could not sustain the area's economy except for the few who used their new found investment as tourist houses. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Sugaar
Mzabalazo
You have raised an important point and I value your comment which is not what zoomer think about it.To me I believe that he is building a white elephent and it will be difficult to maintain it sooner it will be dillapidated. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
MommaC
JIGSAWPUZZEL
Talk about a complete abuse and misuse of the race card. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Tasto
@Mzabalazo – I don’t want to spoil what u just posted, thanx for enlitement !!
@Sniduedy – sorry for not apying any attention to you.Get it in your head yu will never find a Black tribe outside Africa as much as you will neva find White ribe outside Europe except settlers.While at it who is the King\chief of your tribe?
@Moffdat.....Lol not really but i respect your views. Just dont bestow them on me when it comes to the president after his Blah,Blah,Blah ...........his looks made my ora skew and left a bitter taste in my mouth .....eeeeeeeeeeew.
Anyway have a blessed weekend ................ Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
masende
who complain when Nelson Mandela was busy developing Qunu? leave JZ alone plz nx! JZ has shown that he does not forget where he comes from unlike u zinja Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
MommaC
Mzabalazo
Exactly. Well said.
I completely fail to see how this is going to be self sustaining Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
masende
who complain when Nelson Mandela was busy developing Qunu? leave JZ alone plz nx! JZ has shown that he does not forget where he comes from unlike u mdlwembe Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Tasto
@Lord-Have-Mercy - give facts abt Qunu not your wild imaginations please !!
Nothing except a great statesman hail from the village not a typical tribalist African Bantustan Leader!!
P.S Only a museum in Mthatha kilometres away from Qunu or Mvezo no major clinic still modest existent life except a world famous village man!!
What is this nonsense about a hongfong city being built in Qunu?
There is a clinic and a school that was built. There were a few other things done BY THE MANDELA TRUST but there certainly wasn't a two billion rand personal shopping mall built there Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Tasto
Still waiting for the Marikana commision to start its work , Jacob Zuma wants to introduce State-o-emergency to deal with miners demands and to protect the politicians investments interests in mines!!
@MommaC
What is this nonsense about a hongfong city being built in Qunu?
There is a clinic and a school that was built. There were a few other things done BY THE MANDELA TRUST but there certainly wasn't a two billion rand personal shopping mall built there
Facts not insults Sir, raise the quality of your argument not your v.ulgar plse!! Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Winilen
Cant blv are so narrow minded & sayin all stupid things abt this bcos the place being developed happend to be Zuma's village c'mon ppl...
I am not defending Zuma dut all rural areas need developments yes Zuma may have a big influence for a Inkandla to be developed 1st, by the looks at things/comments rural areas will never be developed.
I see it happen all the time in our township we select a councilors & just bcos we want things to go fast we put pressure on them & complain by the time things start to get right we select another councilor & the whole process has to start afresh... just a small example of how black ppl are thinking.
Rural development need to start somewhre & why not in Inkandla...
If i may ask all the haters opposing this great idea, what must Zuma/grvnmnt do in order for the rural areas to be developed & where should it start from? Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Mhambuma1
@All
Inkandla is very much a part and parcel of SA, good people. Its residents do pay tax according to their income. The aim is to get them to participate in economic activities as the people from other regions. As the Prez did mention, about 135 areas are also receiving attention in so far as develpoment is concerned. Why all the brouhaha about Nkandla development and not Giyani for instance? Grow up maan!!! Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
MommaC
Tasto
Sorry M@dam but what was 'vulgar' about that and what 'facts' am I omitting? Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
|Sinudeity|
Tasto - "yu will never find a Black tribe outside Africa as much as you will neva find White tribe outside Europe except settlers."
I guess South Africa is the exception then. The Afrikaner tribe proves you wrong.
"While at it who is the King\chief of your tribe?"
Winilen
Cant blv are so narrow minded & sayin all stupid things abt this bcos the place being developed happend to be Zuma's village c'mon ppl...
I am not defending Zuma dut all rural areas need developments yes Zuma may have a big influence for a Inkandla to be developed 1st, by the looks at things/comments rural areas will never be developed.
I see it happen all the time in our township we select a councilors & just bcos we want things to go fast we put pressure on them & complain by the time things start to get right we select another councilor & the whole process has to start afresh... just a small example of how black ppl are thinking.
Rural development need to start somewhre & why not in Inkandla...
If i may ask all the haters opposing this great idea, what must Zuma/grvnmnt do in order for the rural areas to be developed & where should it start from?
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well balanced put Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Mzabalazo
SEP 14, 2012
Lord-Have-Mercy
To all Zuma haters
there is going to be a School-----------------that s good for the communiy
there is going to be a Library-----------------thats good for the community
There is going to ba Sport Facilitiy---------thats also good for the community
i would understand if all these were just useless things for the community
Play the ball not the man
what about Qunu village??????????????
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You miss a point again, schools yes, sports facility yes but where?
But those can be built without building a pre-GHOST CITY. My point is that I am not against the development of any area in Mzansi, anywhere as long as it is sustainable, do you want to tell me that the poor unemployed people of eNkandla ( which happens not to be far from where I originally come from) will be living in the city? A city is not just build from no where, the economical development is there one that transforms a place into a city, can't you atleast understand that.
Let Zuma look at what the economy of iNkandla is all about, if it is farming, let him develop that and then build factories that will process the goods produced in that area, develop the skills of his people and not build a white elephant after another, then the area will build a sustainable economy which will result in a sustainable city. You are doing the same mistake of World Cup, when we told you that we will reanimate with unused stadiums that are going to drain our finances you started to criticize us as not been patriotic and making everything politics, we told you that the World Cup will bring sustainable job and there will be more loss than gain, right now the govt hasn't given the report of how we benefited eara by area from the World Cup. My brother I live next to the Dosonville stadium, literally a street away, before the world cup the community of Zondi and Dobsonville were using the stadium for exercising, every morning I used to run and mediate before I prepare my daughter to school , but since the world cup we cannot access that facility. Moses Mabhinda and other stadiums are only full when we have the Gauteng teams, the stadiums are under utilized . So tell me do you think rural folks who are worried about day to day issues will have time to got for recreation in that sport facility, othose who will have bought the Zumaville city houses will be the ones who enjoy those facilities more than the poor people in eNkandla.
Make no mistake Zuma is not going to build a city and then demolish the thatched housed villages and take everyone to the promised city. Even if he would have done so that city would not sustain itself as those unemployed people who were given RDP houses abonden them, some sold them and others let them when others lived in them with no jobs to maintain their livelihood. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
candilious
Moffdat
candilious
Try not to break too many hearts this weekend... bye
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Sep 14, 2012
|Sinudeity|
Tasto - Eish, stop being so tribalist man. The English folks (some of them) have two passports. Afrikan3rs do not. South Africa is their homeland. Deal with it. Stop letting your racism eat you up, just accept this fact :P Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Moffdat
Tasto
@MommaC - the development at Qunu you only u and others seem to know abt plse?
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she got you good here!!! mmmmmmmmm Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
|Sinudeity|
Tasto - Which other tribe is named after the continent that they call their homeland? The Afrikanese (Afrikan3rs). Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Dandan
Dear All
Above I left a comment Im very disgusted that all of you are commenting about Zumaville yet you dont have a practical understanding, the people who are exponsed to the situation are not saying anything.
Alll of you shut up, you talk nonsense Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Moffdat
|Sinudeity|
Don't you have oranja? I don't know what the place is called there in the free state?
You should go i hear it's paradise! You will fit in like a glove! Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
MommaC
Dandan
we are actually hoping that if we ignore you long enough, you'll go away. A Zimbabwean chicken farmer isn't the greatest qualification for being an economic genius. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Popeye
Let us shut down this government…more trouble is yet to come. Criminals are running this country.
I have always been of the idea of developing of the rural area without compromising its countriness( coined by me as there is no such word on English) I believe that we are loosing our most precious GDP by neglecting the economy of the rural areas. The food of every country should come from the rural areas, and I am for the idea that if a rural area is producing milk, then the govt should develop co-op and loan them , to build a dairy, then that will result in job creation in the rural area, as one of two factories wil produce packaging, that will result to skill development, employment and the province will have strong economies as they will be supplying finished goods rather than unfinished goods. That will reduce the influx to the bigger cities. I find it very uneconomical for Limpompo to be producing so much fruits yet they do not have a cannery, they have to sell their products cheap to Gauteng and then get them much expensive as canned fruits or jam. This idea is working, I remember when I was in the UK and the recession was starting to bite. the farmers were complaining about the amount they were getting for selling milk and meat to the middleman, looking at what these goods costs in supermarkets, they felt that they were cheated of their living.They started to establish their diary factory, their butcher and started to make a good profit, yet their goods were still cheaper compared to what the shops bu#y for from the middle man.
If Zuma was coming with programme I would really kiss him, that is what we call a sustainable development, and the downside is that it takes a long time than building a pre -ghost city that will shine for 6 to 8 year and die , when but building a sustainable economy takes longer to develop but may last for 100 years. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Honeybadger
Makhanda seems to be ageing at an accelerated pace ku la amalanga. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Moffdat
Dandan
Dear All
Above I left a comment Im very disgusted that all of you are commenting about Zumaville yet you dont have a practical understanding, the people who are exponsed to the situation are not saying anything.
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Which comment my chief?
You can bad mouth him as much as you want but fact is Neslon Mandela also did the same for his home town when he was the president. And another fact is that J.Z has also done a lot in other provinces even though the media only focuses on the negative, this is all to sell papers by the way.
Lastly I am very proud of the way our president in handling this situation because many expect him to be foul mouthed like Julius so that they can use that against him.
Mangaung is 2 weeks from now the last man shall stand above the rest!!! Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
MommaC
Mashesha99
What is the name of the big city that Nelson Mandela built and how much did it cost the tax payers? Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
|Sinudeity|
Moffdat - Why only center myself around oranja? The whole of South Africa is my homeland. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Mzabalazo
Let Zuma develop Nkandla with a sustainable program rather than a pre- ghost city.
I do not care even if he develops Mnambithi or Msinga as long that development will bring a permanent value to the lives of the people not a just a city where these people will not even live in but we will be watch the haves most of them from other parts of the country enjoying it. Build sustainable projects that will give an opportunity to uplift each and everyone in eNkandla, not pre- ghost town, unfortunately you guys take time to see things , we told you about Zuma you did not listen, we told you about Malema you did not listen, we told you about the World Cup you did not listen, when will you be able to see things as they are, you wait until everything is down the drain and you start crying for a split milk. What is bad about this Zuma city is that the rich and tenderprenuers will make a lot of money in the process and 5 years later it will turn into a white elephant and nothing will be done except ,comments and insults on such bloggs. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Popeye
Dandan
ola popzen, weekend mpinthi yami ungamla akekho sijumper phezu kwekeyboard
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Hehehe...ola! my man...Yeah! siya-jiver akekho ugogo mfana. I'm leaving in less than an hour broer. Ja weekend wise...'am not sure the weather is not good for fishing and inqaba namhlanje. Why did you call me Jakalazi gister...nawe ubuye ulahle blawami. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
The-Rothschilds
You people from Soweto voted this guy in.........not me! Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Honeybadger
The-Rothschilds
You people from Soweto voted this guy in.........not me!
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Spewing bile as usual. DO you even know where Soweto is? Which people from Soweto? Why are you pumping kak out your oriface? Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
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Honeybadger - True, Sowetan has quite a big DA following. Doubt if they would vote for JZ. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
The-Rothschilds
Honeybadger
The-Rothschilds
You people from Soweto voted this guy in.........not me!
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Spewing bile as usual. DO you even know where Soweto is? Which people from Soweto? Why are you pumping kak out your oriface?
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Oh wait i got that wrong, you people from Soweto voted for Helen Zille!
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Honeybadger - True, Sowetan has quite a big DA following. Doubt if they would vote for JZ.
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Well you're here. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
retard
Develop it wena Zuma you dont wanna be like mbeki who alienated his home town as we speak ec is undeveloped because people forget whe they are coming from, they leave in the surbubs as if they were born there. If my president you see the need to develop it please do so we come from rural areas we need those place to be developed....impilo izoba ngcono Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Moffdat
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Moffdat - Why only center myself around oranja? The whole of South Africa is my homeland
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with a mentality like your i think oranja is about the only place you'll be happy. You always comment based on colour and nothing else. I bet if the DA was lead by someone who isn't white you'd jump ship! Report Abuse
Moffdat - You assume wrong my friend. But I think you need to start your own 'homestead'. Call it "Blackania" or something, only place where you would be happy :P
"You always comment based on colour and nothing else." Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Moffdat
|Sinudeity|
Moffdat - You assume wrong my friend. But I think you need to start your own 'homestead'. Call it "Blackania" or something, only place where you would be happy :P
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it's called south africa and i didn't have to create it. Even when the DA messes up you refuse to admit that they are messing up. If it was up to you you'd probably move to Australia Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
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Moffdat - Hehe, I havent seen a case yet where the DA messed up. The ANC on the other hand, would love to see you fess up to that.
And no, South Africa is my home. I wouldnt ever move from here. You on the other hand, might be suited nicely in Zimbabwe. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Tasto
I am back from lunch not a single person has substantiated proof that Mandela developed Qunu nor Mbeki developed his homestead instead insults abt Mbeki for neglecting his EC(neglecting Xhosas neh?) and putting SA & Africa first.
Moffdat - "it's called south africa and i didn't have to create it."
You see, thats the mistake you make. South Africa is mutliracial. You dont seem to believe so. Therefore, move to Zimbobwe, or Blackania. Think your mood would increase dramatically :P Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Moffdat
|Sinudeity|
I don't affiliate myself with the gang mentality you politicians have. I make up my mind and comment. When was the last time you did that based on anything other than the mentality perpetuated by the DA! Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Mzabalazo
SEP 14, 2012
Tasto
I am back from lunch not a single person has substantiated proof that Mandela developed Qunu nor Mbeki developed his homestead instead insults abt Mbeki for neglecting his EC(neglecting Xhosas neh?) and putting SA & Africa first.
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It's because the shoot and aim later, as speak they might be googling the info and cannot find anything to support their rumours. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
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Moffdat - Just because you say you dont have a gang mentality, doesnt mean that you actually do not. You are as typical as any other sheep.
You tell the settlers to go home, even though you are a settler yourself. When you say that Africans cannot be settlers, in the same breath you tell Zimbabweans to go home :P
Have you any wool? 3 bags full you say? Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Moffdat
|Sinudeity|
I only say that after you've had your fair share of racial slurs. My ex-girlfriend is white and so are some of my cousins so you can't tell me sh.!t. You on the other hand are nothing more than Zillers garden boy... i mean landscaper Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Mashesha99
@ MommaC not necessarily a big city but he also looked out for his home town, everything went to the Eastern Cape and no one complained. In fact people started complaining when Mbeki took over!
Anyway nothing will ever be achieved if we carry on like this as a country, people will always cry foul when things are'nt done their way so this will even happen if Jesus became president!
As for the R2 billion rand you feel is being wasted, I see it as an invested because many sustainable jobs will be created after this!! Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
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Moffdat - Yeah, yeah, Im always throwing 'racial slurs' around. Werent you the same chop saying I said the k-word? Pity when asked for proof you ran away.
"My ex-girlfriend is white"
Sure, and some of my best friends are black :P
You on the other hand, is nothing more than JZ's fluffer. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Tasto
@Mashesha99 - how many jobs were created from ARMS-deal ?
@ Tasto I'm sure our very learnered former president Thabo Mbeki can give you that answer, in fact you can also ask that question to Trevor Manuel and Mosiuoa Lekota. There's no way they could have let Jacob Zuma take part in this since he was not "educated & smart" enough. Anyway fact is that a TOWN needs people in order to be effective and those are the people who will have jobs when this whole project is complete! Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
TrapStar
@All how are you
I have something we should all look at based on this country
1. 8 years Ago we never had any financial problem as a country and all we wanted was to move forward
2. We forgot to look at the economical background, Who designed the Financial architect for this country and its economy?
people like Zuma are just rulers of the country but they dont know the design of the economy. you cant control what you dont know
You are very energetic, I like your resolve, you never get intimidated, I like that you really stand for what you believe in. I know of so many White South Africans who disappeared from this blog should you stop blogging this blog will not be the same again. Keep up with the good work. Your posts are not racist. Report Abuse
I have something we should all look at based on this country
1. 8 years Ago we never had any financial problem as a country and all we wanted was to move forward
2. We forgot to look at the economical background, Who designed the Financial architect for this country and its economy?
people like Zuma are just rulers of the country but they dont know the design of the economy. you cant control what you dont know
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Lucky you, we have been having financial problem even before 18 years ago, you are the luckiest to have been financially independ, we were not. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
|Sinudeity|
Mzabalazo - Thanks, your comment makes me want to post even more :P Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
MommaC
Mashesha99
Have you ever been to the Eastern Cape? If Mandela did pump two billion rand into his home town then it certainly doesn't show. All I saw there that was newish was a clinic, a school and an orphanage. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
MommaC
What exactly is going to happen when this city is built?
City's cost a lot of money to run and I really don't see the area being able to afford rates and taxes as the area is not the most affluent area in the country. Yes, a few people will flourish but the majority do not have the cash to sustain businesses. The likelihood of this turning into a little Joburg are nil. Any fool can build a shopping mall but if you don't have customers, then you don't have businesses and if you don't have businesses then you don't rent out the space. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
TrapStar
@Mzabalazo
we had it from then but the difference is that Other countries were blinded from it. this tym everyone knows SA is now entering a new trend which might cost it a lot
@ Tasto you asking the wrong person really now, I was not there when the ARMS deal was planned but like I said, every town is run by it's employees. People will benefit from this!!
@ MommaC How they wasted that money has got nothing to do with me but I also know for a fact that Mandela and his children togather with their children are living like kings and queens! It's just that people tend to lose focus on the bigger picture and follow whatever the media shows and tells them. Wake up, this has been going on way before J.Z became the president!! Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Tasto
Recently during the month of July we saw\reminded about the homestead of O.R Tambo with mud rondavels with falling walls.fortunatley there is an Arts&Culture department that is responsible for developing declared Heritage sites in South Africa.But in Nkandla don't know which category it falls under I can understand if this was for the entire KwaZulu like Ulundi or whateva legitimate Heritage site of Zulu Kingdom but not selfishness of greedy tribal old man!! Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
MommaC
Mashesha99
Mandela made a fortune selling prints (remember some guy tried to rip it off?), his books, a peace prize and various other initiatives along with marrying a wealthy widow and a presidential retirement annuity. He may even have been involved in the arms deal but he seems to have made most of his cash the old fashioned way. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Mashesha99
@ Tasto bro CHANGE and DEVELPOMENT has to start somewhere.
Just a few months ago people were complaining saying that Soweto gets all the attention from the government so I guess this is just another case of people wanting their home towns in gov's priority list hey?? Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Tasto
@Mashesha99 - you the one who mention jobs creation, is it dangerous to look back at the other failed promises?
P.S Remember the 5 million jobs he promised in his tenure? what abt SWC2010 only to be told it was not jobs but job opportunities? Wena is jobs or job-opportunities promise u talking abt?
@MommaC,Sinu, Somaartakeit, Candilicious and all other whingers and cocounuts, you tell us now, what is the solution giong foward , Its clear you hate ppl to get development in rural arears, not so long along the President was riding a tractor in Easterna cape where they gave a lot of tractors to the farming rural community, guess what all you haters started complaining , so you dont want the president to work, so you can complain more...bunch of ..... Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Mzabalazo
SEP 14, 2012
TrapStar
@Mzabalazo
we had it from then but the difference is that Other countries were blinded from it. this tym everyone knows SA is now entering a new trend which might cost it a lot
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Like I said lucky you , as the millions were starving even then that is the truth, we never had or enjoyed SA financial gains, I am not trying to be smart or ridicule you, we never enjoyed anything, we have been victims then and we also victims now, people a getting better living at our expenses. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
TrapStar
@ManofTSEK
U r an F00L, whats best between installing electricity and providing water where therre is no water and building a 2 Billion worth of a Dungeon. Did we pay the eToll money back before we even go there???
ManoftheSoil - Havent said anything about nkandla today, merely addressing comments made here. Scroll up if you dont believe me.
Hehe, you call us the whingers? What about the protests, and julius this week? The solution is simple. Dispose the ANC. They are useless and corrupt.
Why invest R2 billion into a new town, when the existing towns and townships out there dont have toilets, proper housing, heck even water. Spending R2 billion on an area with 150,000 people is an inefficient use of money. It equates to spending R15,000 per person. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
TrapStar
@Mzabalazo
we had it from then but the difference is that Other countries were blinded from it. this tym everyone knows SA is now entering a new trend which might cost it a lot
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Like I said lucky you , as the millions were starving even then that is the truth, we never had or enjoyed SA financial gains, I am not trying to be smart or ridicule you, we never enjoyed anything, we have been victims then and we also victims now, people a getting better living at our expenses.
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better living at our expenses, very true. but now the question is how do we minimize that???
We cannot stop them that i know, But how do we make them aware. you know with a grade 8 a person this day is very rich, very very very very rich Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
MommaC
ManoftheSoil
Bong, is that you?
Nobody is saying that rural areas should not be developed (oh and can you call it a rural area if it becomes an urban city?). On the contrary, we are all saying that a sustainable rural development should be done.
If Zuma was looking at building a farmers co-op, a grain silo, an agricultural college, a sewage plant and some water purification initiatives - we'd be on board. That would help the area a hell of a lot more than a shopping mall would Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
TrapStar
@|Sinudeity|
ManoftheSoil - Havent said anything about nkandla today, merely addressing comments made here. Scroll up if you dont believe me.
Hehe, you call us the whingers? What about the protests, and julius this week? The solution is simple. Dispose the ANC. They are useless and corrupt.
Why invest R2 billion into a new town, when the existing towns and townships out there dont have toilets, proper housing, heck even water. Spending R2 billion on an area with 150,000 people is an inefficient use of money. It equates to spending R15,000 per person.
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Thank you man, couldnt agree more Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Mzabalazo
SEP 14, 2012
ManoftheSoil
@MommaC,Sinu, Somaartakeit, Candilicious and all other whingers and cocounuts, you tell us now, what is the solution giong foward , Its clear you hate ppl to get development in rural arears, not so long along the President was riding a tractor in Easterna cape where they gave a lot of tractors to the farming rural community, guess what all you haters started complaining , so you dont want the president to work, so you can complain more...bunch of .....
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Let me comment on the tractor, but unfortunately I do not have all the facts on who got the tractor, who monitors the tractors, are the people given a tractor able to maintain them?
But if I go with the RDP project the government just leave everything to people, for instance in the RDP houses the contractors were not monitored, they built millions of defunct houses, so if Zuma did the same mistake then he set the people of Eastern Cape to fail. But if all above questions are answered positively then Zuma has delivered the people of Eastern Cape from hunger, but sets the people of eNkandla to fail by building a city that is not going to change the people's lives. Sanditon City is a stone throw away from Alex and it did not improve the lives of the people of Alex as it was not build to do that. So tell us how will building a city for the have nots going to uplift the people eNkandla ?
What is going to sustain this city, please do not tell me about a Mall, how is the city going to generate funds? Cities are not build out of nothing, they develop from areas where there big business,eg. Ports, mines, factories and advanced farming that has mini- factories. How is this city going to sustain itself?
TrapStar
@ManofTSEK
U r an F00L, whats best between installing electricity and providing water where therre is no water and building a 2 Billion worth of a Dungeon. Did we pay the eToll money back before we even go there???
Do you seriously think that those unemployed people in the rural areas want water and electricity that they won't be able to afford?? This town being built will give them jobs and they will be able to live off their own pockets instead of asking for hand outs from the governmenet!! Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
somaartakeit
I read that zuma wants to declare state of emergency in Marikane so he can protect assets of the rich, its actually funny, cause no one can be rich if miners do not have to go down and do the digging, so its only fair to give them their dues, otherwise Marikane is ripe for economic revolution, zuma please think jong, its not that hard. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Moffdat
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Don't talk through your rear-end i am always mentioning the President's flaw. However you must think Zille sh.its rainbows Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Mzabalazo
TrapStar
By not voting them, by making a lot of noise where possible, such blogs do help, by debating with people and sharing with like minds, for now, should a revolution avail itself Join it and questions later. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
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Moffdat - Hellen doesnt $h1t rainbows, but she $h1ts education, employment, healthcare and poverty reduction. I'll criticize her when there is something to badmouth.
PS, follow me on twitter, and you will see where I harassed hellen to get an answer out of her regarding a corrupt DA politician. Unlike the ANC, I actually got an answer in the end, and the action that would be taken. And it didnt involve a slap on the wrist and redeployment. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
TrapStar
TrapStar
@ManofTSEK
U r an F00L, whats best between installing electricity and providing water where therre is no water and building a 2 Billion worth of a Dungeon. Did we pay the eToll money back before we even go there???
Do you seriously think that those unemployed people in the rural areas want water and electricity that they won't be able to afford?? This town being built will give them jobs and they will be able to live off their own pockets instead of asking for hand outs from the governmenet!!
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Dude its a CITY not a mine, Look at Sandton City and Alexander
@ Alex almost all of them know how to start a car without keys
@ Sandton City is surrounded by civilized people
Now look at it like this, They will employ them during construction and after construction its just going to be Sandton and Alex over again Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Moffdat
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Moffdat - Hellen doesnt $h1t rainbows, but she $h1ts education, employment, healthcare and poverty reduction. I'll criticize her when there is something to badmouth.
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Like every other politician she promises those things... and promises... and promises.. How wealthy is Ms Zille anyway? Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
TrapStar
@Mashesha99
TrapStar
@ManofTSEK
U r an F00L, whats best between installing electricity and providing water where therre is no water and building a 2 Billion worth of a Dungeon. Did we pay the eToll money back before we even go there???
Do you seriously think that those unemployed people in the rural areas want water and electricity that they won't be able to afford?? This town being built will give them jobs and they will be able to live off their own pockets instead of asking for hand outs from the governmenet!!
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Dude its a CITY not a mine, Look at Sandton City and Alexander
@ Alex almost all of them know how to start a car without keys
@ Sandton City is surrounded by civilized people
Now look at it like this, They will employ them during construction and after construction its just going to be Sandton and Alex over again
Ow one last thing,im definately sure that water and electricity to that place wont cost 2Billion. they can find something better to do with the change Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
mashima?
"Developing that area does not trouble me, it makes me very proud"
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Wa re very proud aowa monna. Ke youna mmetla shapo la tlala. Who's tax was spend here, why specifically Nkandla. how many areas in your country is underdeveloped or has needs than Nkandla. which criteria was used to select Nkandla. Why not the area of Mandela, Thabo Mbeki, Chris Hani, Steve Biko etc the list is endless. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
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Moffdat - The ANC promises, the DA delivers. The odendaal dude I was referring to was fired and criminally charged.
As for unemployment in CT, it dropped by 20% since the DA took over from the ANC. CT unemployment is 30% less than Joburg. WCape has the highest education statistics in South Africa, they overtook Gauteng once the DA took over. WCape also has the best healthcare statistics in all of South Africa.
In the DA's case, the promises are actually becoming reality. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
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Moffdat - As for hellen's wealth, she declares her taxes. Income from being premier and for being head of the DA. Her husband is a professor. They dont own any businesses, or are shareholders in any business. As confirmed by the DTI.
Few weeks ago, parlaiment tried to pass a bill blocking politicians from having ANY business interests involved with the government. ALL the opposition parties backed the bill. All ANC politicians opposed the bill.
And its not surprising, if we look at dudes like Tokyo, Cyril (At some stage, Tokyo and Cyril got 80% of all government tenders under Mbeki). Zuma's family and all its government tenders. Malema...
@Moffida it is actually a shame that you defend corruption (anc) even now Block is asked zuma to quash his corruption charges and he will deliver him NC in Manguang, do you see why many of us think zuma is the godfather of all corrupt who are now crawling into the anc? Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Mashesha99
TrapStar
TrapStar
@ManofTSEK
U r an F00L, whats best between installing electricity and providing water where therre is no water and building a 2 Billion worth of a Dungeon. Did we pay the eToll money back before we even go there???
Do you seriously think that those unemployed people in the rural areas want water and electricity that they won't be able to afford?? This town being built will give them jobs and they will be able to live off their own pockets instead of asking for hand outs from the governmenet!!
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Dude its a CITY not a mine, Look at Sandton City and Alexander
@ Alex almost all of them know how to start a car without keys
@ Sandton City is surrounded by civilized people
Now look at it like this, They will employ them during construction and after construction its just going to be Sandton and Alex over again
It's actually a Smart Growth Centre which will work on developing it's own people so everyone will gain something from this. Report Abuse
Sep 14, 2012
Tango
Zuma responded by naming 23 poor districts nationwide which had been identified by government as recipients of upliftment programmes
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So this means it is not Nkandla alone,why complain. Report Abuse
Sep 15, 2012
mambaaai
this clown and these clowns blames everything on every one else and anything else..... but this is just an example of their priorities. 1st comes his d1ck and then other minor issues while the country is in chaos.... what else could we expect i suppose Report Abuse
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MommaC
The economy is under threat and the topic was Zumaville?Report Abuse
Zabaragast
Namanga man.Report Abuse
maneater
this president Yisidomu thats all!!!Report Abuse
Mrazane
Cry the beloved country, things are falling apart indeed, if only you knew that you will be on trial for the destruction of your country one day. Truly the beautiful ones are not born yet...Report Abuse
Babylicious
" A case of selective development".*******************************************
And who will foot the bill - poor taxpayers and ANC voters. Well at least by the time he gets voted off Nkandla will be a tourist town.
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KennyS
This man brain cells do not exist. Zuma,you are telling the world that all other under developed places here in South Africa are being PUNISHED! You are a foolish man stupid old horny fartReport Abuse
Boogie1985
The NEW YORK CEETEY OF KWAZULU NATAL. Typical black man, o berekela ko gae.Report Abuse
Pitso.MCCMA.SAFA
@zuma"Developing that area does not trouble me, it makes me very proud."
Not everything should rotate around you and your women slaves.
You developed showerland=zumaville=KZN New York city to nurse your rowdy ego and you have got a nerve to say you are proud to jump to Nkadla while other parts of RSA are in the developement list. You are arrogant president.I wonder why your double head does not think twice.
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Mgwijikhwebu
Nkandla deserves development like any other part of SA. So all you howlers, whiners and cry babies should just shut-up and mind your own business. You bark at everything and every move the poor JZ makes? Why? Are u so bored? Call it New York or Paris of KZN as your idols (ANCYL) often do when mockinge the project, but it will go ahead as planned.Report Abuse
Lesmyplace
I like it when people get frustrated with Monster Z and his chief whip Lemas' coz they created them now they cry **faul**shameReport Abuse
ancnduntsu
At least I did not vote for this Moron.Report Abuse
moralett
Mr Presindent we pay tax is the one use to Develop Nkandla, that does not negotiations, e-toll is another problem from you're side, we will pay tax take everything to Nkandla just because Mangaung is around the corner. But our tax money that you misuse you will pay one day Mr President.Report Abuse
somaartakeit
I guess the truth will be determined by how gets the tender for said development if such persons have links or connected to zuma or his inner circles, that's what the DA must please try to find out,All rural areas of SA should receive equal share of national resources (development) for anc regime failing to achieve that must result in the citizens in areas which are still not developed in the past 18yrs punishing the anc at the ballots in the upcoming elections.
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seutullamakunutu
Plautocracy generated out of greed and illeteracy is what this Zuma knows. Yes it wont bother him cause he never took time to study and know the effects , least common sense does not prevail.He must step down. Sickening !!!!
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I see John Block will sway NProvince to vote Zuma in December if...His corruption charges are dropped.
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stalion
you know i was supporting this Man , i have now changed my mind , i think his advisers are making him a fool , how can he defend this scandal. Is it not possible to recall him before it is too late? , no wonder why foreign heads of state will find it fit to visit a retired President Mandela than a sitting president. South Africa and Africa can not afford to have this embarrassing president any moreReport Abuse
MGEEZ
@AllI beg to differ with you on this one!!! Whilst I may not support JZ on many fronts; but I think that on this one we do not have a case in criticizing him, ultimately all rural villages in this country deserved to be developed and that includes Inkandla!!!
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Ratshufi
Good morning good peopleIt makes me so sad to hear our own president encouraging the improvement of a village wheras people around him are still depending on rivers for water and they dont even have electricity ....
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somaartakeit
and for the light and yet real situation in our national politics here is Zapiro for you.http://mg.co.za/cartoon/2012-09-14-zuma-malema/
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somaartakeit
Boogie1985
The NEW YORK CEETEY OF KWAZULU NATAL. Typical black man, o berekela ko gae.
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there is nothing wrong with go berekela ko gae what is wrong is when his pals benefits from these projects at expense of tax payers, hence I said the DA must please find out who won the tender for such development. Development of our country is good even when done by zuma administration but it must done fairly and with due consideration to tax payers
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They come they take Its never enough because they cant relateTo the real world, thinking that the oyster is just for the pearl
They start those wars They want to own the land sea and all the stars
And right those wrongs they change their history with their poison forked tongues.
All right, whos they? A maybe its the government of today
Or B for the big business man who thinks the whole world revolves around him
Or C for the corrupt official for A and B he be the man in the middle
Or D for discoverer for Van Riebeeck and Columbus and the pirate plunderers.
Doesnt mean I aint got no fight now just because I dont got a gun
The lyrical is heavier than lead and this guitar is my canon
Just like my Martin and Nelson I'm gonna love Im gonna over come
Maybe its E for all of the above but I dont want to be
Wrong way going down the one way road
Wrong way going down the one way road
Wrong way going down the one way road
Gonna turn it all around gonna back it on up
These men who they say we should follow but we cant follow men if their hearts are hollow and
Mmmm yes how can we respect puppet regimes we do not elect?
Straight up straight up like Pinocchio And every time they lie man the fire just grows so
Nows time to be part of the solution raise your fist if you believe in revolution
Doesnt mean I aint got no fight now just because I dont got a gun
The lyrical is heavier than lead and this guitar is my canon
Just like my Martin and Nelson I'm gonna love Im gonna over come
Maybe its E for all of the above but I dont want to be
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Chichi7
I was so d isappointed in the manner in which J Z spoke to L indiwe from the D A in parliament. He actually had a voice to speak to a w oman and yet her has no b alls to comfront M alema to his f ace. I then realised that J Z has no b ack b one whatsoever to stand face to face with a man and he gives a voice of a uthority to a w oman? I lost all respect for him irrespective of what the subject at hand was. He will gain my respect the day he does mention M alema in a sentence and tell him to s hut up!!As for this d evelopment, J Z can justify it all he wants but it does not make it right when other communities have no basic needs.
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Tsope'
And this Sn@ke (Thuli Madonsela) agrees with wh!te, what did she drink at the DA party celebration. The people whats to exposed the truth they knew all along that this dumping of textbook all had to do with wh!~te people stup!d sabotage.Report Abuse
somaartakeit
@Tsope you have no power to control Thuli the only power you have is to control your wife or girlfriend cause clearly you are a controlling freak, Madonsela can go to any gathering she wants to, its her democratic right and she doesn't need permission from the likes of you,Report Abuse
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Tsope' - LOL, this guy.Report Abuse
Vhamsanda
The worst leader that South Africa has ever had.Report Abuse
THEmadame2B-BBEE
my god, half of the money will come from the state (1 Billion), and what about the either half, where will it miraculously come form...chinease companies!.........
come to think of it what happened to assassination, Americans were not assassinations their leaders for nothing, i mean Kennedy with Drugs, they knew him alive will f@k up the uSA, so he had to be chopped, and we are letting this Zuma stay alive, ppl come on
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Papage
You could have stopped it, it shows your brain is not funtioning properly, too much sex confusses, you are not normal, you need to do brain scan, wher is your concious, does it work? I doubt itReport Abuse
somaartakeit
@Themadame2B-BBEE whilst I share your frustration with this guy but we should never reduce ourselves to the anc levels of murdering those we don't agree with, zuma must live long enough to witness the demise he inflicted upon unsuspecting and loyal supporters with his reckless spending the country's resources, I am convinced that this Nkandla development is another scam to siphon billions of tax payers money to keep the nests the zuma faction warm whilst majority in KZN live in abject poverty and without hope of ever come out of it, when national resources should be addressing issues such as crime, as things stands there is a new trend in KZN of serial k!llers, why has our national resources not been put to this issue by training the police so they can better identify serial killers?Other countries that are run by educated leaders, they throw all resources available to address national issues, why is the anc regime not doing same? it took international pressure and sponsors in order for them to address aids/hiv by this time aids has already claimed lives, why have we got these leaders who are without a vision and common sense? why is failure for them not a shame?
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somaartakeit
And then we have to endure another anc leaders BS about putting ppl first? I was amazed that the upheaval btwn the haves and the have nots in London didn't result in a massacre in SA where the gov is primitive 34 died in the hands of the police, this is failure of gov to produce capable leaders, cause the march in London was more violent and vicious it carried on for days in various parts of London, but the British police managed it well without murdering ppl, why did SAn police murder those ppl in Marikane? Why has no one in the gov resigned as yet? Now the anc president wants to make the Marikane issues as if its a Malema problem, Malema is the least of our national problems bad management of our country is at an acute stage, so for zuma to say the gov was going to act against Malema, he must taking us for idiots and is now trying to make it out as if Marikane was about Malema.Report Abuse
Chichi7
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America always believed a better and bigger dream for the country and they protect it with their life. Assassinations are still the call of the day especially if the country will have a negative impact due to the partucular person.
We need to start having that bigger dream for RSA
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THEmadame2B - Kennedy was assasinated because of drugs?Err... I dont think its the kennedy crackpipe who's business end is hot to the touch :P
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Shredder
Mbeki's legacy is Nepad and African Renaissance. Zuma's legacy is Nkandla, the New York City of Kwazulu Natal, so says Julius Malema. :-DReport Abuse
paracute
Mr.Pres. Tell these people that much of the country's budget for this financial year was mainly on infrastructure, the EPWP should see to it that developments are in process at their areas. these lazy, greedy, selfish and incompetent Councillors and municipal managers are one blocking the road to development, should you Mr. Pres be hands on every time and everywhere everything would run smoothly. i know there are those who don't see what you're doing in trying to better S A lives. you might not be educated but you are intelligent no one would have achieved what you have with the big country as S A.we want developments but we're not paying for services instead we destroy the little that we have. the municipality would plant trees around our townships and our kids would destroy them, why can't we teach our children the importance of the beautiful environment. it is our responsibility as parents to teach these kids so they become better people tomorrow. department of roads and transport wwuld try paving roads we steal material for our own personal usage saying this is our tax, our country will never move forward with that kind of behavior.
let us be good role models to our children. if steal they will think that stealing is the way to achieving things the easy way come on guys. teach children that working hard is the only way to success. we seriously can't afford doing bad things for our country and then put the blame on the President not just uZuma even yena Malema should he be president as some of you wishes. but ultimately the president should be there whether we like it or not never who it might be. and those of you insulting current president you will be insulting the very same person that you are fighting for. of course there must be a change as the ruling party has said that the president of the party's one who'll lead the country. so should they elect another president he will be leader of the country if he wins the general elections that i doubt will win.
viva the independent mind viva. Flying solo aka paracute
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SetlaboswanaBoy07
It is obvious mr president that you are going to defend that, you want to make a name for yourself at Nkandla, Shame on you at the expense on tax payers....by the way, are there mines at that place, how will developing that part of the country assist the economy, who will love to work there? doing what?....Zuma ke dunder head guys....Just step down Msholozi and save yourself from further humiliation.Report Abuse
somaartakeit
@Chichi I'd have thought its bad enough that we have political assassination in KZN do we really need to continue with this trend and put our democracy at worse risk of being run by gun toting warlords? we must use our votes effectively, and we must demand that constitution is amended so that ppl can chose their leaders not have them chosen and imposed on them by a select few. Lastly, we should be voting on ISSUES not faces or cult following, cause this is doing our country more harm than good.Report Abuse
NDA
The circus has just begun.Report Abuse
DJ-Winner
Yes, why must we develop only whites populated areas? No one complained when Gauteng government constructed a Gautrain. Rural areas must be developed and development must start somewhere....Report Abuse
Kaylae
The way Zuma spoke to Lindiwe was uncalled for,it shows he is power hungry.and I agree with Chichi couldn't call Malema by name WHYDeveloping Nkandla is not a problem the problem is why all the focus there and making it NEW YORK whilst other villages have none and did he have to start with it NXA.He wants to finish before Mangaung cause he sees his days are over
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Phathuza
Corruption @its best Why this Rural development starts with Nkandla , This man is turning Nkandla into a New York @ expense of Tax payers , Paying for his wives is not enough , This coming December he will be marring Sonono Khoza and Next December a woman from Swazi land , Mzansi we need to get rid of this shower man or else our economy is going downReport Abuse
mhlupheki
i saw this questions that were directed to the president and, for i saw and heard there was nothing new which for me they dont have ideas except from those of the peoples, media and political analists. they all lack vision and creativity.Report Abuse
Stimela
read: www.marikanatruth.comto find out how Cyril ramaphosa and Tokyo sexwale are ripping the poor off.
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somaartakeit
@DJ except for most of said development result in being the white elephants which are feeding on tax payers money without any ability to generate income, such as the Mabida stadium. Zuma should not just defend the situation he must breakdown (account) how many sustainable jobs will created in this project, and as gov tenders are prone to corrupt process, they tendering process must be open and fair.Report Abuse
shakashaka
I am not one of his fans but ths time Msholozi is right. We are often told by certain race group that this city and that one was developed by apartheid regime now when we are doing our own we are criticed again. Nonsense. In EC we had 2 president but look at our province now. VIVA Msholozi kulondawoReport Abuse
MommaC
Did anyone hear him on TV this morning? Our dear President seems to think that having a 'majority' means that he has more rights than anyone else. It may be a language issue or it may be that our President is completely clueless about how democracy works.Report Abuse
somaartakeit
just to remind you in case you have forgotten, that a certain municipality is buying tickets to hand out in order to fill the stadium, just how does that justify such abuse of our meager resources to such luxury? when that money should be channeled towards health or education or security issues or even training police so they can better do their jobs? it is this thoughtless expenditure which riles so many, but I know you will come up with excuse to blindly defend and support reckless waste of our resources cause you are not capable to see beyond tribe, and try to be upright and condemn outrageous waste of our resources on politically or tribally connected individuals, I also know that you defended that zwelithini wants 16mil or something to that effect to fund a pad for his 6th shag, you justified this using your culture, do you not realise that by this behaviour you are putting your culture in a negative light?Report Abuse
THEmadame2B-BBEE
I’m kind surprised that we do not see the CIA being involved in RSA politics, mara y, i mean they operated everywhere in Africa, and the killing of Lumumba (Poor Pres died for nothing), and her we have Zuma who is left to live just like that, mara What’s upReport Abuse
somaartakeit
!@MommaCDid anyone hear him on TV this morning? Our dear President seems to think that having a 'majority' means that he has more rights than anyone else. It may be a language issue or it may be that our President is completely clueless about how democracy works.
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Zuma is an unthinking fool that is why is able to shameless utter this un presidential remarks without thought of how they will be received, imagine if Obama was to speak to Americans the way Zuma speaks to SAns, but again education plays a huge role in ones life, so I guess we must try to live the best we can with our uneducated/uneducatable president.
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Shredder
@DJ-WinnerYes, why must we develop only whites populated areas? No one complained when Gauteng government constructed a Gautrain. Rural areas must be developed and development must start somewhere....
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Agreed, but why not start at Tlhatlhaganyane or Manamela for example? That would stop the accusations like these.
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candilious
Listening to this p@Oes i nearly broke my damn TV jirrrrreeeeeee was very nanchalant and arrogant about the whole thing. Not to mention the Madikane incident when Lindiwe had him by the balls his answers were as if two friends talking 1 boasting of having all while the other does not even have a decent pair of takkies .God all Mighty i pray for our beloved country
@MommaC/Sin/MGEEZ/Somaar..........Morning ..........i see dead people
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Sugaar
He is building a white elephent,who is going to maitain those things when he is no longer going to be a pres.Report Abuse
DJ-Winner
Shredder@DJ-Winner
Yes, why must we develop only whites populated areas? No one complained when Gauteng government constructed a Gautrain. Rural areas must be developed and development must start somewhere....
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Agreed, but why not start at Tlhatlhaganyane or Manamela for example? That would stop the accusations like these.
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Development must start somewhere. If it was to start in Tlhatlhaganyane or Manamela, people who don't stay there would again question it. It is impossible to make everybody happy.
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Moffdat
I am looking forward to seeing the progress this new programme is holding to yeild. They have targeted so many communities and the budget is off the charts.@ALL ANC
Let this project not turn into another one of those where hundreds of millions will go unaccouted for!
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MommaC
DJ-WinnerHave you ever been on the Gautrain? It isn't exactly a 'whites only' train and once the bus service is integrated, we will see it becoming even more popular.
Two kms from where Zumaville is due to be erected are villages with ZERO water, sanitation or schools. How does that make sense?
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somaartakeit
and The Madame2b, can you spot difference in leadership btwn Lumamba and zuma? its convenient for the west for us to have these no brainers like zuma, will not think twice before pawning off our resources that is why I say, we the ppl must ensure that our votes advance our cause,look also in Congo they have killing fields and raping fields and yet Kabile flies to the west on a private jet to deliver diamonds, but I will not blame the west for this I blame the ppl of congo for failing to remove kabila from power and elect decent ledership for themselves.
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candilious
MommaCDid anyone hear him on TV this morning? Our dear President seems to think that having a 'majority' means that he has more rights than anyone else. It may be a language issue or it may be that our President is completely clueless about how democracy works
______________________________________________________Girl you have no idea i wanna drink right now as i am seriously in shock or denial ..............cant make a choice which 1 thats how f@cked up i am after this man uttered those words
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MommaC
somaartakeitIt is just damn embarrassing. What the hell were the ANC thinking when they shoved him into the big chair?
candilious,
Morning doll.
Jirrie ek het amper duur die TV geklim om vir hom a lekker p*es klap te gee.
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shakashaka
Most freedom fighters came from EC but have you seen the home of Oliva Tambo in EC, Chris Hani's home, Sisulu, Mbeki you name them. Have you seen the state of Healdtown College. What is the use of looking good to the outside world while the place you grew up is in bad state. What is the use of driving expesive cars in Gauteng or Cape Town while you have not help build a small rondavel back home in EC / KZN.We can insult Zuma as much as we can but this time he is doing a good job
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somaartakeit
MoffdatI am looking forward to seeing the progress this new programme is holding to yeild. They have targeted so many communities and the budget is off the charts.
@ALL ANC
Let this project not turn into another one of those where hundreds of millions will go unaccouted for!
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knowing how the anc tenderprenuering schemes always end up, I wouldn't be holding my breath, if this project was to take off, zuma would not be defending instead he would furnish stats showing how much sustainable jobs will be created as a result of this expenditure, but anc leaders know they are not accountable so his subjects will let him get away with this,
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thinya
Development is development, well done JZ, If I'm given a chance to rule the country I'll do the same, charity begins at home, remember?Report Abuse
Tasto
Evryday he wakes up to devend or explain himself,damn Polokwane !!Report Abuse
somaartakeit
@MC they were thinking 'corruption obfuscation, lies and more lies' and of course unaccountable for any of that, even now I don't believe that zuma personally wants second term the very same corrupt clique that shoved him into the big chair want him to have second term so they can continue looting, and for blade the stakes are high, he is gunning for VP position in the country,Report Abuse
DJ-Winner
somaartakeit@DJ except for most of said development result in being the white elephants which are feeding on tax payers money without any ability to generate income, such as the Mabida stadium. Zuma should not just defend the situation he must breakdown (account) how many sustainable jobs will created in this project, and as gov tenders are prone to corrupt process, they tendering process must be open and fair.
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We cannot compare this developemt to a stadium. Again we know that some people are sabotaging the Moses Mabhida stadium for their own personal reasons. There is nothing we can do about that.
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Sugaar
He is building a white elephent,who is going to maitain those things when he is no longer going to be a pres.
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So you say the next president will not care about KZN?
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somaartakeit
@Thinya we support development of any area but what is to say this is not yet another of the many anc tender-preneuring schemes? what guarantee we have that our money is not going to be channeled to the politically connected mafia backing zuma's second term so they can milk tax payers cash cow some more?Report Abuse
kayaaman
dat mean limpopo pupils r also being punished!way to go mr double head! plz choose ur words carefully!!Report Abuse
candilious
@ MommaC-Lol kan n mens nou so dom is het jy gesien hoe swaai hy sy hand lyk is fokol man my moer was gestrip hoor jyReport Abuse
HORATIO7
its a fact now, South Africa has no leaders period.Shame
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Voetzek
This crocekd head guy is drunk, little did he know that Nkandla was supposed to be the last place for development because he comes from there.Report Abuse
lindsay
while you are defending Nkandla who is defending people that are murdered everyday by protesting mine workers? in fact who is defending the country ? i'm beggining to think may be Malema is on something on trying to rise everybody you not that you are not contributing to the cause usisilima.Report Abuse
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candilious - LOL, morning candi. Nerd raging? :PReport Abuse
somaartakeit
@DJ I am not comparing more than I am saying I wll be convinced of its authenticity when I see it materialise and in order for zuma or whoever is rensponsible for this probject to justify it, they must provide stats of HOW MANY JOBS (SUSTAINABLE) will be created, we can't be on this spending thrift without tangible gains to justify such expenditure, that is all that I am saying, and I gave example of how some of the project haven't taken off ito generating income to sustain themselves such as the moses Mabida which is said to be financed by the gov (tax payers) to fill its capacity, we don't need nor do we have time for this BS.Report Abuse
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Somaarread between the lines, I’m not differentiating between Lumumba and Zum, but I’m saying there's more to this than what meets the eye, i mean really great leaders were assassinated because obviously they were seen as a threat to the global ‘new order’, the CIA were involved in African affairs because it’s the USA who decides who should be in power and who should be slaughtered, not y shouldn’t Zuma be slaughtered
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Moffdat
candiliousListening to this p@Oes i nearly broke my damn TV jirrrrreeeeeee
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The proper term is MR PRESIDENT... No thanks needed!
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somaartakeit
Okay then TheMadame2b when you put it in that way I agree with you, there is conspiracy here, but we as citizens must chose leaders who work for our interests.Report Abuse
candilious
@Moffdat-Morning .................jou se fokken President not mine@Sinudeity|
candilious - LOL, morning candi. Nerd raging? : ............Getik lyk my
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DJ-Winner
MommaCDJ-Winner
Have you ever been on the Gautrain? It isn't exactly a 'whites only' train and once the bus service is integrated, we will see it becoming even more popular.
Two kms from where Zumaville is due to be erected are villages with ZERO water, sanitation or schools. How does that make sense?
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I know that. White people can also go to Nkandla, who is stopping them. We can also make Nkandla interracial...My point here is that people didn't complain because that development was in urban areas and was going to help white people as well. It is a fault of the aparteid that they failed to develop rural areas and only developed areas for minority. We are trying to address that problem...
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somaartakeit
@candiliousListening to this p@Oes i nearly broke my damn TV jirrrrreeeeeee
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LOL he induces that rage in you? that's how I used to feel in the first 2yrs of his tenure then I accepted that he is fool he can't help himself, but now I blame the anc for appointing a fool for president.
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MommaC
DJ-WinnerNo DJ.
People did not complain because it was needed. Joburg and Pta are pretty much one city now and there are an awful lot of people who need to get from one end to the other. Gauteng NEEDED a public transport system. KZN doesn't need a private shopping mall for Zuma's million and 63 wives and girlfriends, what it NEEDS is infrastructure.
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@ DJ-WinnerGautrain was a need that went to a lot of people and to an extent reduced traffic and time spent between PTA and JHB and ORT.
Please understand that a need and a want are totally different and Zumaville can not be justified in anyway. I do not think there would be an uproar if he was building houses, hospitals/clinic and schools.
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|Sinudeity|DJ-Winner - LOL dude, are you trying to make nkandla a white issue now? Trying to use a race-card to justify this gross incompetence and misappropriation of funds?
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it is actually amusing that he would use race card as a defence considering that majority who are opposed to this are blacks not whites, whites generally don't give a fig cause they know how to survive this mismanagement of our country, white ppl invest in education of their children so that they will not end up being slaves to uneducated and corrupt leaders, whilst foolish blacks amuse themselves with stupid things such as building of a shopping mall.
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somaartakeit@candilious
Listening to this p@Oes i nearly broke my damn TV jirrrrreeeeeee
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LOL he induces that rage in you? that's how I used to feel in the first 2yrs of his tenure then I accepted that he is fool he can't help himself, but now I blame the anc for appointing a fool for president.
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somaartakeitI understand your apprehension but we should be optomistic. At the end of the day the people corrupting the ANC are our neighbours not the leadership. Bra Vusi and Mr van Niekerk are the ones perpetuating corruption! The executive has put a programme in place it is up to the people to be honest. I hope the avergae South African can manage that much but we'll see.
@candilious
How are you? You may disrespect The President but he is still The President and by virtue of his stature i believe he deserves to be ridiculed with integrity!
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I just can't understand how we devolved from Madiba to Mbeki and then to THIS. Goes to show how wrong Darwin really was!
Problem is that until the arms deal and the tape saga goes away, Zuma has no choice but to go for a second term. He either has to bury it for good or find someone just as corrupt as he is so that he can be sure never to have to answer in a court of law
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MommaCDJ-Winner
No DJ.
People did not complain because it was needed. Joburg and Pta are pretty much one city now and there are an awful lot of people who need to get from one end to the other. Gauteng NEEDED a public transport system. KZN doesn't need a private shopping mall for Zuma's million and 63 wives and girlfriends, what it NEEDS is infrastructure.
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Rural areas need to be developed. Development is necessary. I don't know about other things you are talking about...
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DJ-Winner - LOL dude, are you trying to make nkandla a white issue now? Trying to use a race-card to justify this gross incompetence and misappropriation of funds?
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somaartakeit
@Candi, believe me I know how you must feel, especially if you have to watch this fool everyday but please gal don't let it get under your skin in that way, you need your energy and your positive thinking most importantly you need to be in good health to help you sail through this murky waters our country is going through, stand strong skat and campaign hard for civilised and decent leaders for our country, do it for your children:-)Report Abuse
Shredder
Zuma must go!!Report Abuse
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Moffdatsomaartakeit
I understand your apprehension but we should be optomistic.
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I don't waste optimism on zuma and his no brainer projects, when it comes to money spending I am a REALIST maybe that's why I am where I am and without any debts.
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DJ-Winner - No its not dude. You are just trying to use 'wit gevaar' to win your stupid argument.Report Abuse
Kabelo10
Zuma and the ANC Mafia Syndicate are beyond repair/corrupt ...fortunately or infortunately, depending on the side of the fence.Report Abuse
somaartakeit
|Sinudeity|DJ-Winner - No its not dude. You are just trying to use 'wit gevaar' to win your stupid argument.
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So then why are you worried cause ppl using half a brain cell are able to see through this 'wit gevaar' scheme anc and its supporters have adopted even Malema said blacks were better off under apartheid regime,
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Zero57
You got yourselves into this SA. Next time you go vote, think wisely and think for the future too. This stupid president has shown us that really his family and himself come first. SA is doomed.Report Abuse
MommaC
DJ-Winneryou don't seem to know much about what ANYONE is talking about :(
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somaartakeit
one of the bloggers above spoke about zuma's legacy, well its simple its the Marikane massacre like Gqozo has his tally on the Bisho massacre, anc zuma has 44 in Marikane alone, so chilax history shall judge zuma administration, that's not to say Mbeki was a saint he allowed Manto to garlic-beetroot unsuspecting aids sufferers,so I conclude anc kills.
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somaartakeit - True. Even had julius supporting hellen this week. Think alot of brains divided by zero this week.Report Abuse
DJ-Winner
somaartakeit is now taking seriously things being said by Malema. If aparteid was good for you ha ha ha..., they I don't know. Try and see if you can find ways to bring it back..ha ha ha...Report Abuse
DA-DBN-GUY
DJ-WinnerI do seem to recall that there was a lot said about the Gautrain and how it would not benefit the poor. Plus all the world cup stadiums were also frowned upon as a luxury we didnt need nor could afford, All these reservations have proven to be true. I doubt it is mere coincedence that Zoomers hometown is being developed to the tune of R1billion when there are schools and other projects that have been started and never completed. Zoomer is creating his own retirement village for when his days of stealing from all of us are at an end.
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Soon after his 1990 release from 27 years in prison, Mandela built a small house on his family plot in Qunu. It is an exact replica of the dwelling where he spent the last years of his incarceration at Cape Town’s Victor Vester prison. He has since built a bigger house, where he stays when visiting his home town.What development in his home village did N.Mandela made ?
P.S The Walter Sisulu Paediatric Cardiac Foundation (WSPCF) is a philanthropic paediatric cardiac foundation for Africa, focussing on delivering life-saving surgery for underprivileged children with congenital heart disorders from across Africa. The foundation has its headquarters at Netcare Sunninghill Hospital.
NB NB not focusing Nkanda kaZuma !!
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MommaCDJ-Winner
you don't seem to know much about what ANYONE is talking about :(
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Ok, I think I know...
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DJ-Winnersomaartakeit is now taking seriously things being said by Malema. If aparteid was good for you ha ha ha..., then I don't know. Try and see if you can find ways to bring it back..ha ha ha...
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Any development goes to Kwazulu natal ngidiniwe ligama underdeveloped area Inkandla was destruct by amabutho wakwa zulu.King zwelithini want money 2 develop his home, give him bcos ur bra Zuma.Report Abuse
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DA-DBN-GUYDJ-Winner
I do seem to recall that there was a lot said about the Gautrain and how it would not benefit the poor. Plus all the world cup stadiums were also frowned upon as a luxury we didnt need nor could afford, All these reservations have proven to be true. I doubt it is mere coincedence that Zoomers hometown is being developed to the tune of R1billion when there are schools and other projects that have been started and never completed. Zoomer is creating his own retirement village for when his days of stealing from all of us are at an end.
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Well, that is your opinion. I guess you have to watch the space
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DJ-Winnersomaartakeit is now taking seriously things being said by Malema. If aparteid was good for you ha ha ha..., they I don't know. Try and see if you can find ways to bring it back..ha ha ha...
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there's a ring of truth in some of the things he says its only sad that he waiting till he was enemies with zuma before highlighting (obvious to some) widening disparities btwn the poor and uber rich.
As for @partheid, it is a fact that ppl in SA lived longer than 54yrs which is now general life expectancy rate under anc regime, and also infant mortality rate is now higher, and text books were not burned down they were delivered to the B@ntu Education schools, hence generation of black middle class generating economy today is coming from that era whilst hte anc regime has lost generation post 1994 and reduced them into social grants charity cases, try deny this fact in a typical anc fashion and blame apartheid whilst at it.
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One thing l respect about amaZulu is their golden heart, that why God will always make the prosper. I supported Mandela (he is Xhosa) l supported Mbheki (he is Xhosa) l have n will never insult them. It pains me to see abantu (abamnyama njengami) not respecting a Zulu president. I expect this from some white people cos abantu abafani. What happened to constructive criticism.Report Abuse
Moffdat
somaartakeitMoffdat
somaartakeit
I understand your apprehension but we should be optomistic.
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I don't waste optimism on zuma and his no brainer projects, when it comes to money spending I am a REALIST maybe that's why I am where I am and without any debts.
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Like i said at the end of the day it is not Zuma or Matlhathe or Sexwale who steal money meant to benefit the poor and South African community at large. It's people like you and I.
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Moffdat - "Like i said at the end of the day it is not Zuma or Matlhathe or Sexwale who steal money meant to benefit the poor and South African community at large."And how do you come to this conclusion?
"It's people like you and I."
You maybe.
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@MthakathiOmkhulu - no one is hating any ethinic group its just a certain ethnic group has been perptuating a lie of "Xhosa-nostra" in government like every white person always whinging abt blacks\A.A.Report Abuse
somaartakeit
and whilst at @partheid achievements vs anc non achievements, prior to 1994 no one in SA heard about massacre of the miners, if you don't believe me ask the Rothschilds, De Beers and the Openheimers, and ask the families of the dead miners what they think.Report Abuse
candilious
@Moffdat-hehehehheh Integrity you say...........you made my day thanx for taking the egde off@Somaar -Ja nee im leaving my wrk place at 12 & join the miners i am striking for a NEW PRESIDENT ...................lol
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P4T
Rural development does not only entail physical infrastructure development Mr President, Sir. Whoever is advising you that this is rural development fire them. Unless off course it is some sort of a honey pot for your cronies disguised as rural development. In which case carry on Sir with the development since the motive is to secure support for yourself when the times come.Please don't insult our intelligence coz those in the know and studied rural development know that it entails SUSTAINABLE rural economic development activities and industries tied with such infrastructure development. If it were true rural development why is the planning of such not include ALL rural areas?
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@Moffdatsomaartakeit
Moffdat
somaartakeit
I understand your apprehension but we should be optomistic.
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I don't waste optimism on zuma and his no brainer projects, when it comes to money spending I am a REALIST maybe that's why I am where I am and without any debts.
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Like i said at the end of the day it is not Zuma or Matlhathe or Sexwale who steal money meant to benefit the poor and South African community at large. It's people like you and I.
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maybe you steal things from other ppl, but you shouldn't judge me by your standards, and I didn't vote for the anc thieving regime so I sleep easy at night cause I know my vote didn't contribute to the demise of black majority who pinned their hopes to the anc regime.
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Tasto - Or every black person always whinging about white people ne.Report Abuse
clevergirl
may b if mr president can jus tel us gore ke criteria efe e sebedisitsweng 2 end up utilizin so much mani kogo,re tla hlaloganya.da main Q here is Y ikandlaReport Abuse
somaartakeit
@Candi, see you at the protest then galfriend, I will be hold my placard pride right behind you, lolReport Abuse
malemaforpresident
Developing that area does not trouble me, it makes me very proud."=================================================
it should not trouble him when the Miners in Marikana/Lonmin demand R12500 Why not be proud that the miners demand a living wage die groot kop earn R2m p/a divide it by 12 it is shocking and yet state resources are being used to develop sex- village Nkandla nxaaa selfish dude
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somaartakeit is now taking seriously things being said by Malema. If aparteid was good for you ha ha ha..., they I don't know. Try and see if you can find ways to bring it back..ha ha ha...
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there's a ring of truth in some of the things he says its only sad that he waiting till he was enemies with zuma before highlighting (obvious to some) widening disparities btwn the poor and uber rich.
As for @partheid, it is a fact that ppl in SA lived longer than 54yrs which is now general life expectancy rate under anc regime, and also infant mortality rate is now higher, and text books were not burned down they were delivered to the B@ntu Education schools, hence generation of black middle class generating economy today is coming from that era whilst hte anc regime has lost generation post 1994 and reduced them into social grants charity cases, try deny this fact in a typical anc fashion and blame apartheid whilst at it.
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ha ha ha ha....People forget we have deseases like AIDS these days. These deseases were not very much common 30 years ago...
People forget that Limpopo is trying its best to sabotage the admin of Umsholozi, hence the books issues and most of other problems coming that side...
Anyway, good luck with your aparteid return. Unfortunately, right wing people just got convicted few weeks ago...
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of course first cases of aids were id'ed in the USA amazingly sufferers there still live today, whilst in SA they were garlic-beetrooted to their early graves by the anc regime,zuma is incompetent don't make excuses for him and don't blame malema for zuma's lack of leadership skills. Malema wld have NEVEr been in our public discourse were it not for mr incompetent (read zuma).
It doesn't bother me who got convicted what bothers me is a leadership vacuum which guys like Malema are now filling cause we have a showerhead for a head of state brandishing its mshini wam left right and centre not even his friends daughters are safe from his spear, that is what bothers.
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Dandan
Dear All
I need clarity , I am located in Nongoma which is 50 kms to Nkandla, farmer specialising in poultry and egg production. I was under the impression that Zumaville will serve as my market base in addition to Mkuze, Jozini, Monguzi and increase the number of people I employ in Nongoma.
considering all your suggestions , opinions about Zumaville, what is your take in my business that creates jobs for 20 people, I would like to hear from you.
Regards
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candilious
somaartakeit@Candi, see you at the protest then galfriend, I will be hold my placard pride right behind you, lol
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Djembe
I just wonder how S. africans think? For U Tata a lot was done in the former transkei especially eQunu with Tax payers money and everybody found this in order for uTata planes and helicopters are flying all over with his medical team financed by the taxpayers money and agin this is fine. So what is the big deal with Inkandla being developed? We are just a bunch of people who invest a lot of time on not so important things. WHY IS MALEMA traveling in such luxurious cars who is funding him? Recenlty a lot of money was spent on Social Cohesion what did come out of it? Sometimes I wonder about my fellow country men and women. It is amazing that the whites are not interested in such useless discussions they are busy focusing on the economy and blacks are busy pointing fingers at each other. Shame Mzantsians...Report Abuse
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@maneater you sound like your name, zero intergrity..Report Abuse
Mzabalazo
We have already gone down the hill, the issue now at hand is that we SA rise again, and who will take it to the right direction? My fear is tht our resources are not infinite and if we find our way out won't we be like Haiti, having no enough natura resources to take us forward. What the people are depleting are not going to be reimbursed , we can take the buildings and the remaining loot but the value would not be as much as the natural resources that they have misused for their gain. I s Zuma aware of ghost towns, a town built next to mines or factories as soon as these pillars fall, the town falls too. So how can one build a city where there is no economic stability, was he not suppose to build factories that processes the rural production and concentrated on guilting primary health care, make sure that all residents have water, electricity, schools and recreation like playing grounds and the rest was going to take care of itself, the investment on the rural economy was going to build a city eventually. The people in the rural Nkandla will move to the city and live a beautiful Zuma life, but people who have money from sorrounding areas will bu#y houses and live there, the shopping complex ( supermarkets , shops, security, banks etc.) will employ mostly people not living in eNkandla, if we go on how the SA norms of employment goes. It's will be like building Santdton next to Alexandra, that did not change the plight of the majority. I never thought that I will see the mentality of Mobutho, Banda , Matanzima and Mphephu in a new SA. Well done Zuma, well done.Report Abuse
Tasto
@Djembe - be specific Sir support with facts not wild imaginations or stereotype NelsonMandela as typical African leader like Zuma!!Thabo Mbeki tried to keep the status quo not to give in to WesternStereotype but was reviled !!Report Abuse
MGEEZ
@CandiliousGood morning Candi....
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Tasto
@Sinudeity|Tasto - Or every black person always whinging about white people ne
Pardon my laarney forgot of crackers like you and RobinH who love black ppl and affirmative Action, you are for Youth wage subsidy mos afta all Madam said so!!
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Moffdat
@CandiWhen you insult the president you must use Sir, Mr or Ntate. If that is too much at least use big words! e.g. Mr President is a Neanderthal!
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come on guy. I used you and i to refer to the common south african. Our inability to do more than just complain is giving people the comfort they need to continue being corrupt. The leaders of the ANC are attributed these evils vicariously but the people around us - our neighbours who are actually stealing the money.
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see my comment above
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@DJ-WinnerYes, why must we develop only whites populated areas? No one complained when Gauteng government constructed a Gautrain. Rural areas must be developed and development must start somewhere....
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its not Zumaville - its Nkandla rural town developmentthe DA wants to punish the people of Nkandla just because JZ was born there, NO!
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Tasto - Pardon my whiskey tangoness, but arent you always here blaming the white man for non delivery of textbooks, poverty, lack of transformation, failed education system, corruption and incompetence in government?Report Abuse
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Stimela - Hehe, now blaming the DA. Eish, the 'wit gevaar' is strong with this one.Report Abuse
Tasto
@ Sinudeity|Tasto - Pardon my whiskey tangoness, but arent you always here blaming the white man for non delivery of textbooks, poverty, lack of transformation, failed education system, corruption and incompetence in government
No always fite racist like you and not tolerating tribalismðnicity!!
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Moffdat - "Our inability to do more than just complain is giving people the comfort they need to continue being corrupt."No, voting for the ANC is what is promoting the corruption. John Block made a deal with JZ, to squash his corruption charges if he brings NW to support JZ at mangaung. And yet here you want to blame the citizens for being corrupt?
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@Stimelaits not Zumaville - its Nkandla rural town development
the DA wants to punish the people of Nkandla just because JZ was born there, NO!
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You should be indifferent what others call Inkandla, seeing that freedom of speech is their democratic right!!! The point is, regardless of what they call it; it is and will remain Inkandla!!!!
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@Djembe=========================
Dude do you really compare utata Mandela to Shower? that is totally incomparable Rolihlahla is a respectable man internationally not only in Africa but globally who on earth will ever respect a poligamist? unless one does not understand the word poligamist if i were supposed to choose between a zooolu and a Xhosa i will go for a Xhosa Nxaaaa
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Tasto - Yeah, you are a tribalist. You along with quite a high percentage of commentators on sowetan. Always raging against the white tribe of South Africa.Whenever someone calls me a 'racist', then its either a pro-JZ, or pro-Malema douchebag.
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I started to dislike and doubt this thing ( suma) from the time he occupied the office.Report Abuse
DJ-Winner
somaartakeitof course first cases of aids were id'ed in the USA amazingly sufferers there still live today, whilst in SA they were garlic-beetrooted to their early graves by the anc regime,
zuma is incompetent don't make excuses for him and don't blame malema for zuma's lack of leadership skills. Malema wld have NEVEr been in our public discourse were it not for mr incompetent (read zuma).
It doesn't bother me who got convicted what bothers me is a leadership vacuum which guys like Malema are now filling cause we have a showerhead for a head of state brandishing its mshini wam left right and centre not even his friends daughters are safe from his spear, that is what bothers.
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Well Mbeki and Manto gave people garlic-beetrooted, not Zuma. We cannot blame Zuma for that...Zuma is giving people ARV's; the world leaders as well as UN are singing him praises in that regard.
I did not blame Malema here. I said I was suprised with you praising Malema as you always bashing him here. You use Malema for your own good to support your senseless points here...Who is in a right state of mind will wish for the return of aparteid? ANC is not the best of governments we agree, but aparteid? Come on now...
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@|Sinudeity|Tasto - Yeah, you are a tribalist. You along with quite a high percentage of commentators on sowetan. Always raging against the white tribe of South Africa.
Whenever someone calls me a 'racist', then its either a pro-JZ, or pro-Malema douchebag
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Actually pinkiies should not be allowed to comment here cause they are not residing in Soweto
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When there are developments in our townships like Schools, Libraries, Sport Facilities, etc where we already have electricity and water but people fail to complain about electricity and water for other places that dont have themReport Abuse
Tasto
@Sinudeity|Tasto - Yeah, you are a tribalist. You along with quite a high percentage of commentators on sowetan. Always raging against the white tribe of South Africa.
Whenever someone calls me a 'racist', then its either a pro-JZ, or pro-Malema douchebag.
Aagh man you pigeon-hole me now with no viable alternative eventhough I still believe in Black Consciousness!!
@Mzabalazo - Mobutho is appropriate comparison to the current president who think taxpayers money is his kity.Mobuto Seseko used to lend his country money to pay civil servants to fix roads and he had a private army.Here we have KZN-MKVA seeing themselves as JZ body gaurds maybe really on same path like Zaire!!
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Moffdat
|Sinudeity|Not voting ANC is not going to stop the people who already have jobs at your local municipality from being corrupt. It is not going to stop lazy nurses and teachers from being lazy. It is not going to change You and I in any material facet. That is why i would rather focus on our community as a whole instead of blaming a bunch of people who have their hands tied day in and out with office administration!
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Moffdat@Candi
When you insult the president you must use Sir, Mr or Ntate. If that is too much at least use big words! e.g. Mr President is a Neanderthal!
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Never please dont ever tell me what i should or should not do he is your president if it suits you to l!ck his toes fine by me. But please dont expect me to bow down Gracefully..................He is a disgrace that deserves no respect not even from a do!g..............
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MGEEZ@DJ-Winner
Yes, why must we develop only whites populated areas? No one complained when Gauteng government constructed a Gautrain. Rural areas must be developed and development must start somewhere....
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Good point indeed!!!
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Lord-Have-MercyMGEEZ
@DJ-Winner
Yes, why must we develop only whites populated areas? No one complained when Gauteng government constructed a Gautrain. Rural areas must be developed and development must start somewhere....
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Good point!!!!!
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Good point indeed!!!
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DrunkenMaster
Thats Politics, get rich or retire trying.Report Abuse
JIGSAWPUZZEL
@SOMAARTAKEITi acknowledge that people like you exist in our society but some of us will tolerate ra.sists like you and only hope your children are not learning anything from you because you are s.tupid.
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Tasto
@Idiotor \ Webteam wena Mkabela – u removed my previous comment on this !!Please put up the latest NEWS Jacob Zuma to re-introduce State Of Emergency for the firsttime in Democratic SouthAfrica like PW Botha in the 1980s.
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@DJ-Winner
Yes, why must we develop only whites populated areas? No one complained when Gauteng government constructed a Gautrain. Rural areas must be developed and development must start somewhere....
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U ppl Can’t compare JHB and a small rural one-donkey town\village, the powerhouse of Economy in Africa let alone SouthAfrica!!Gautrain\JHB feed Nkanda not the other way round !!Next time try to compare apples with apples!!
Now Malema is going to be KILLED, can I propose a commission of enquiry in advance to give JZ a headstart?
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Moffdat
candiliousI may not respect The President as a natural person. Because i don't understand Zuma as a natural person. I don't understand 6 wives but it is his custom. I don't understand 20 something children but that is his custom too. I also know that the reason i don't understand it is because it is not my custom. If you have my beliefs and do those things you are irresponsible and reckless. However i was raised christian and grew up in modern day metropolis. Zuma is a 70 year old from Nkandla!
I respect the office of the Presidency and The President of the republic. He has attained the ultimate distinction and i will give caesar his due respect!
p.s. someone lost their sense of humour today. What is wrong my diabetes causing deitress?
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Mhambuma1
Stop being so jealous of the people of Inkandla, mense. I dont recall any1 of u moaning so loudly when Madiba developed his Qunu village.Report Abuse
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SEP 14, 2012DJ-Winner
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MGEEZ
@DJ-Winner
Yes, why must we develop only whites populated areas? No one complained when Gauteng government constructed a Gautrain. Rural areas must be developed and development must start somewhere....
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You missed a point , if Gautrain was say traveling between Naledi and Phomolong, it would not be called a development, as it would have been sectarian, and not economical, Gautrain is region wise and and it is sustainable. But building a pre- Ghost city is not economical, if Msholozi was building a factory in eNkandla, and developing the rural areas local production and thus allow the goods to be processed in eNkandla factory, make sure that the villages have basic necessities such as running water, renewable energy, such as solar system electricity , clinic/ hospital, that would be sustainable job creation and developing of iNkandla, that I will support because a part of our community will develop and it will be a mile stone, minus one. but building a city, that is wasteful and unsustainable as the people of iNKandla will still remain in the undeveloped area whilst the majority of rich and middle class will be bu#ying houses and living in that city, only a few people for eNkandla will be employed in those banks, swimming pools, shops and restaurant. Guys a city is the result of a developing area not the other way round. Durban was not build as a city just to develop people in that area, jobs in that area, due to goods been transported , fishing, sugar cane developed Durban (uMkhumbane) into a city not the other way round, same as Joburg, I still my great grand's photo of the old Joburg. You cannot just build a city for the sake of developing the area , but you build business that will eventually develop a city. This will be disaster, cities that are built in Dubai around the sea were build for pleasure and when the recession started most people lost their houses and some were taken to court, as those houses were built for luxury, yes people got employed to built and do other things but as soon as the project was finished these sea cities could not sustain the area's economy except for the few who used their new found investment as tourist houses.
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Sugaar
MzabalazoYou have raised an important point and I value your comment which is not what zoomer think about it.To me I believe that he is building a white elephent and it will be difficult to maintain it sooner it will be dillapidated.
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MommaC
JIGSAWPUZZELTalk about a complete abuse and misuse of the race card.
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Tasto
@Mzabalazo – I don’t want to spoil what u just posted, thanx for enlitement !!@Sniduedy – sorry for not apying any attention to you.Get it in your head yu will never find a Black tribe outside Africa as much as you will neva find White ribe outside Europe except settlers.While at it who is the King\chief of your tribe?
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Lord-Have-Mercy
To all Zuma hatersthere is going to be a School-----------------that s good for the communiy
there is going to be a Library-----------------thats good for the community
There is going to ba Sport Facilitiy---------thats also good for the community
i would understand if all these were just useless things for the community
Play the ball not the man
what about Qunu village??????????????
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candilious
@Moffdat.....Lol not really but i respect your views. Just dont bestow them on me when it comes to the president after his Blah,Blah,Blah ...........his looks made my ora skew and left a bitter taste in my mouth .....eeeeeeeeeeew.Anyway have a blessed weekend ................
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masende
who complain when Nelson Mandela was busy developing Qunu? leave JZ alone plz nx! JZ has shown that he does not forget where he comes from unlike u zinjaReport Abuse
MommaC
MzabalazoExactly. Well said.
I completely fail to see how this is going to be self sustaining
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masende
who complain when Nelson Mandela was busy developing Qunu? leave JZ alone plz nx! JZ has shown that he does not forget where he comes from unlike u mdlwembeReport Abuse
Tasto
@Lord-Have-Mercy - give facts abt Qunu not your wild imaginations please !!Nothing except a great statesman hail from the village not a typical tribalist African Bantustan Leader!!
P.S Only a museum in Mthatha kilometres away from Qunu or Mvezo no major clinic still modest existent life except a world famous village man!!
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MommaC
What is this nonsense about a hongfong city being built in Qunu?There is a clinic and a school that was built. There were a few other things done BY THE MANDELA TRUST but there certainly wasn't a two billion rand personal shopping mall built there
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Tasto
Still waiting for the Marikana commision to start its work , Jacob Zuma wants to introduce State-o-emergency to deal with miners demands and to protect the politicians investments interests in mines!!Issueing licence to kill miners !!
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shakashaka
@Masendeuthini Masendeni ha ha ha ha lol
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Tasto
@MommaCWhat is this nonsense about a hongfong city being built in Qunu?
There is a clinic and a school that was built. There were a few other things done BY THE MANDELA TRUST but there certainly wasn't a two billion rand personal shopping mall built there
Facts not insults Sir, raise the quality of your argument not your v.ulgar plse!!
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Winilen
Cant blv are so narrow minded & sayin all stupid things abt this bcos the place being developed happend to be Zuma's village c'mon ppl...I am not defending Zuma dut all rural areas need developments yes Zuma may have a big influence for a Inkandla to be developed 1st, by the looks at things/comments rural areas will never be developed.
I see it happen all the time in our township we select a councilors & just bcos we want things to go fast we put pressure on them & complain by the time things start to get right we select another councilor & the whole process has to start afresh... just a small example of how black ppl are thinking.
Rural development need to start somewhre & why not in Inkandla...
If i may ask all the haters opposing this great idea, what must Zuma/grvnmnt do in order for the rural areas to be developed & where should it start from?
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Mhambuma1
@AllInkandla is very much a part and parcel of SA, good people. Its residents do pay tax according to their income. The aim is to get them to participate in economic activities as the people from other regions. As the Prez did mention, about 135 areas are also receiving attention in so far as develpoment is concerned. Why all the brouhaha about Nkandla development and not Giyani for instance? Grow up maan!!!
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MommaC
TastoSorry M@dam but what was 'vulgar' about that and what 'facts' am I omitting?
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|Sinudeity|
Tasto - "yu will never find a Black tribe outside Africa as much as you will neva find White tribe outside Europe except settlers."I guess South Africa is the exception then. The Afrikaner tribe proves you wrong.
"While at it who is the King\chief of your tribe?"
LOL, Steve Hofmeyer!
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Moffdat
candiliousTry not to break too many hearts this weekend... bye
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Tasto
@MommaC - the development at Qunu you only u and others seem to know abt plse?Report Abuse
MommaC
TastoNo, come on now Missy. What did I say that was 'vulgar' ???
Do you even know what the word means?
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Tasto
@Sinudeity| - u are nuttin but SETTLER COLONIALIST from Europe u will remain just that with more than one passport\citizenship!!Report Abuse
Lord-Have-Mercy
WinilenCant blv are so narrow minded & sayin all stupid things abt this bcos the place being developed happend to be Zuma's village c'mon ppl...
I am not defending Zuma dut all rural areas need developments yes Zuma may have a big influence for a Inkandla to be developed 1st, by the looks at things/comments rural areas will never be developed.
I see it happen all the time in our township we select a councilors & just bcos we want things to go fast we put pressure on them & complain by the time things start to get right we select another councilor & the whole process has to start afresh... just a small example of how black ppl are thinking.
Rural development need to start somewhre & why not in Inkandla...
If i may ask all the haters opposing this great idea, what must Zuma/grvnmnt do in order for the rural areas to be developed & where should it start from?
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Mzabalazo
SEP 14, 2012Lord-Have-Mercy
To all Zuma haters
there is going to be a School-----------------that s good for the communiy
there is going to be a Library-----------------thats good for the community
There is going to ba Sport Facilitiy---------thats also good for the community
i would understand if all these were just useless things for the community
Play the ball not the man
what about Qunu village??????????????
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You miss a point again, schools yes, sports facility yes but where?
But those can be built without building a pre-GHOST CITY. My point is that I am not against the development of any area in Mzansi, anywhere as long as it is sustainable, do you want to tell me that the poor unemployed people of eNkandla ( which happens not to be far from where I originally come from) will be living in the city? A city is not just build from no where, the economical development is there one that transforms a place into a city, can't you atleast understand that.
Let Zuma look at what the economy of iNkandla is all about, if it is farming, let him develop that and then build factories that will process the goods produced in that area, develop the skills of his people and not build a white elephant after another, then the area will build a sustainable economy which will result in a sustainable city. You are doing the same mistake of World Cup, when we told you that we will reanimate with unused stadiums that are going to drain our finances you started to criticize us as not been patriotic and making everything politics, we told you that the World Cup will bring sustainable job and there will be more loss than gain, right now the govt hasn't given the report of how we benefited eara by area from the World Cup. My brother I live next to the Dosonville stadium, literally a street away, before the world cup the community of Zondi and Dobsonville were using the stadium for exercising, every morning I used to run and mediate before I prepare my daughter to school , but since the world cup we cannot access that facility. Moses Mabhinda and other stadiums are only full when we have the Gauteng teams, the stadiums are under utilized . So tell me do you think rural folks who are worried about day to day issues will have time to got for recreation in that sport facility, othose who will have bought the Zumaville city houses will be the ones who enjoy those facilities more than the poor people in eNkandla.
Make no mistake Zuma is not going to build a city and then demolish the thatched housed villages and take everyone to the promised city. Even if he would have done so that city would not sustain itself as those unemployed people who were given RDP houses abonden them, some sold them and others let them when others lived in them with no jobs to maintain their livelihood.
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Moffdatcandilious
Try not to break too many hearts this weekend... bye
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Tasto - Eish, stop being so tribalist man. The English folks (some of them) have two passports. Afrikan3rs do not. South Africa is their homeland. Deal with it. Stop letting your racism eat you up, just accept this fact :PReport Abuse
Moffdat
Tasto@MommaC - the development at Qunu you only u and others seem to know abt plse?
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she got you good here!!! mmmmmmmmm
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Tasto - Which other tribe is named after the continent that they call their homeland? The Afrikanese (Afrikan3rs).Report Abuse
Dandan
Dear AllAbove I left a comment Im very disgusted that all of you are commenting about Zumaville yet you dont have a practical understanding, the people who are exponsed to the situation are not saying anything.
Alll of you shut up, you talk nonsense
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Moffdat
|Sinudeity|Don't you have oranja? I don't know what the place is called there in the free state?
You should go i hear it's paradise! You will fit in like a glove!
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MommaC
Dandanwe are actually hoping that if we ignore you long enough, you'll go away. A Zimbabwean chicken farmer isn't the greatest qualification for being an economic genius.
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Popeye
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Mzabalazo
I have always been of the idea of developing of the rural area without compromising its countriness( coined by me as there is no such word on English) I believe that we are loosing our most precious GDP by neglecting the economy of the rural areas. The food of every country should come from the rural areas, and I am for the idea that if a rural area is producing milk, then the govt should develop co-op and loan them , to build a dairy, then that will result in job creation in the rural area, as one of two factories wil produce packaging, that will result to skill development, employment and the province will have strong economies as they will be supplying finished goods rather than unfinished goods. That will reduce the influx to the bigger cities. I find it very uneconomical for Limpompo to be producing so much fruits yet they do not have a cannery, they have to sell their products cheap to Gauteng and then get them much expensive as canned fruits or jam. This idea is working, I remember when I was in the UK and the recession was starting to bite. the farmers were complaining about the amount they were getting for selling milk and meat to the middleman, looking at what these goods costs in supermarkets, they felt that they were cheated of their living.They started to establish their diary factory, their butcher and started to make a good profit, yet their goods were still cheaper compared to what the shops bu#y for from the middle man.If Zuma was coming with programme I would really kiss him, that is what we call a sustainable development, and the downside is that it takes a long time than building a pre -ghost city that will shine for 6 to 8 year and die , when but building a sustainable economy takes longer to develop but may last for 100 years.
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Honeybadger
Makhanda seems to be ageing at an accelerated pace ku la amalanga.Report Abuse
Moffdat
DandanDear All
Above I left a comment Im very disgusted that all of you are commenting about Zumaville yet you dont have a practical understanding, the people who are exponsed to the situation are not saying anything.
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Which comment my chief?
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Dandan
@Popeyeola popzen, weekend mpinthi yami ungamla akekho sijumper phezu kwekeyboard
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Mashesha99
You can bad mouth him as much as you want but fact is Neslon Mandela also did the same for his home town when he was the president. And another fact is that J.Z has also done a lot in other provinces even though the media only focuses on the negative, this is all to sell papers by the way.Lastly I am very proud of the way our president in handling this situation because many expect him to be foul mouthed like Julius so that they can use that against him.
Mangaung is 2 weeks from now the last man shall stand above the rest!!!
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MommaC
Mashesha99What is the name of the big city that Nelson Mandela built and how much did it cost the tax payers?
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Moffdat - Why only center myself around oranja? The whole of South Africa is my homeland.Report Abuse
Mzabalazo
Let Zuma develop Nkandla with a sustainable program rather than a pre- ghost city.I do not care even if he develops Mnambithi or Msinga as long that development will bring a permanent value to the lives of the people not a just a city where these people will not even live in but we will be watch the haves most of them from other parts of the country enjoying it. Build sustainable projects that will give an opportunity to uplift each and everyone in eNkandla, not pre- ghost town, unfortunately you guys take time to see things , we told you about Zuma you did not listen, we told you about Malema you did not listen, we told you about the World Cup you did not listen, when will you be able to see things as they are, you wait until everything is down the drain and you start crying for a split milk. What is bad about this Zuma city is that the rich and tenderprenuers will make a lot of money in the process and 5 years later it will turn into a white elephant and nothing will be done except ,comments and insults on such bloggs.
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Popeye
Dandanola popzen, weekend mpinthi yami ungamla akekho sijumper phezu kwekeyboard
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Hehehe...ola! my man...Yeah! siya-jiver akekho ugogo mfana. I'm leaving in less than an hour broer. Ja weekend wise...'am not sure the weather is not good for fishing and inqaba namhlanje. Why did you call me Jakalazi gister...nawe ubuye ulahle blawami.
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The-Rothschilds
You people from Soweto voted this guy in.........not me!Report Abuse
Honeybadger
The-RothschildsYou people from Soweto voted this guy in.........not me!
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Spewing bile as usual. DO you even know where Soweto is? Which people from Soweto? Why are you pumping kak out your oriface?
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Honeybadger - True, Sowetan has quite a big DA following. Doubt if they would vote for JZ.Report Abuse
The-Rothschilds
HoneybadgerThe-Rothschilds
You people from Soweto voted this guy in.........not me!
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Spewing bile as usual. DO you even know where Soweto is? Which people from Soweto? Why are you pumping kak out your oriface?
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Oh wait i got that wrong, you people from Soweto voted for Helen Zille!
I do apologize!
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|Sinudeity|Honeybadger - True, Sowetan has quite a big DA following. Doubt if they would vote for JZ.
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Well you're here.
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Develop it wena Zuma you dont wanna be like mbeki who alienated his home town as we speak ec is undeveloped because people forget whe they are coming from, they leave in the surbubs as if they were born there. If my president you see the need to develop it please do so we come from rural areas we need those place to be developed....impilo izoba ngconoReport Abuse
Moffdat
Sinudeity|Moffdat - Why only center myself around oranja? The whole of South Africa is my homeland
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with a mentality like your i think oranja is about the only place you'll be happy. You always comment based on colour and nothing else. I bet if the DA was lead by someone who isn't white you'd jump ship!
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Dandan
@Popeyeuzozisola ngelinye ilanga , ungathi angukutshelanga
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Moffdat - You assume wrong my friend. But I think you need to start your own 'homestead'. Call it "Blackania" or something, only place where you would be happy :P"You always comment based on colour and nothing else."
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|Sinudeity|Moffdat - You assume wrong my friend. But I think you need to start your own 'homestead'. Call it "Blackania" or something, only place where you would be happy :P
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it's called south africa and i didn't have to create it. Even when the DA messes up you refuse to admit that they are messing up. If it was up to you you'd probably move to Australia
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Moffdat - Hehe, I havent seen a case yet where the DA messed up. The ANC on the other hand, would love to see you fess up to that.And no, South Africa is my home. I wouldnt ever move from here. You on the other hand, might be suited nicely in Zimbabwe.
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Tasto
I am back from lunch not a single person has substantiated proof that Mandela developed Qunu nor Mbeki developed his homestead instead insults abt Mbeki for neglecting his EC(neglecting Xhosas neh?) and putting SA & Africa first.Report Abuse
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Moffdat - "it's called south africa and i didn't have to create it."You see, thats the mistake you make. South Africa is mutliracial. You dont seem to believe so. Therefore, move to Zimbobwe, or Blackania. Think your mood would increase dramatically :P
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Moffdat
|Sinudeity|I don't affiliate myself with the gang mentality you politicians have. I make up my mind and comment. When was the last time you did that based on anything other than the mentality perpetuated by the DA!
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Mzabalazo
SEP 14, 2012Tasto
I am back from lunch not a single person has substantiated proof that Mandela developed Qunu nor Mbeki developed his homestead instead insults abt Mbeki for neglecting his EC(neglecting Xhosas neh?) and putting SA & Africa first.
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It's because the shoot and aim later, as speak they might be googling the info and cannot find anything to support their rumours.
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Moffdat - Just because you say you dont have a gang mentality, doesnt mean that you actually do not. You are as typical as any other sheep.You tell the settlers to go home, even though you are a settler yourself. When you say that Africans cannot be settlers, in the same breath you tell Zimbabweans to go home :P
Have you any wool? 3 bags full you say?
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Moffdat
|Sinudeity|I only say that after you've had your fair share of racial slurs. My ex-girlfriend is white and so are some of my cousins so you can't tell me sh.!t. You on the other hand are nothing more than Zillers garden boy... i mean landscaper
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@ MommaC not necessarily a big city but he also looked out for his home town, everything went to the Eastern Cape and no one complained. In fact people started complaining when Mbeki took over!Anyway nothing will ever be achieved if we carry on like this as a country, people will always cry foul when things are'nt done their way so this will even happen if Jesus became president!
As for the R2 billion rand you feel is being wasted, I see it as an invested because many sustainable jobs will be created after this!!
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Moffdat - Yeah, yeah, Im always throwing 'racial slurs' around. Werent you the same chop saying I said the k-word? Pity when asked for proof you ran away."My ex-girlfriend is white"
Sure, and some of my best friends are black :P
You on the other hand, is nothing more than JZ's fluffer.
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Tasto
@Mashesha99 - how many jobs were created from ARMS-deal ?Report Abuse
Mashesha99
@ Tasto I'm sure our very learnered former president Thabo Mbeki can give you that answer, in fact you can also ask that question to Trevor Manuel and Mosiuoa Lekota. There's no way they could have let Jacob Zuma take part in this since he was not "educated & smart" enough. Anyway fact is that a TOWN needs people in order to be effective and those are the people who will have jobs when this whole project is complete!Report Abuse
TrapStar
@All how are youI have something we should all look at based on this country
1. 8 years Ago we never had any financial problem as a country and all we wanted was to move forward
2. We forgot to look at the economical background, Who designed the Financial architect for this country and its economy?
people like Zuma are just rulers of the country but they dont know the design of the economy. you cant control what you dont know
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Mzabalazo
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You are very energetic, I like your resolve, you never get intimidated, I like that you really stand for what you believe in. I know of so many White South Africans who disappeared from this blog should you stop blogging this blog will not be the same again. Keep up with the good work. Your posts are not racist.
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Tasto
@Mashesha99 - stick to the question plse !!Report Abuse
Mzabalazo
SEP 14, 2012TrapStar
@All how are you
I have something we should all look at based on this country
1. 8 years Ago we never had any financial problem as a country and all we wanted was to move forward
2. We forgot to look at the economical background, Who designed the Financial architect for this country and its economy?
people like Zuma are just rulers of the country but they dont know the design of the economy. you cant control what you dont know
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Lucky you, we have been having financial problem even before 18 years ago, you are the luckiest to have been financially independ, we were not.
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Mzabalazo - Thanks, your comment makes me want to post even more :PReport Abuse
MommaC
Mashesha99Have you ever been to the Eastern Cape? If Mandela did pump two billion rand into his home town then it certainly doesn't show. All I saw there that was newish was a clinic, a school and an orphanage.
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MommaC
What exactly is going to happen when this city is built?City's cost a lot of money to run and I really don't see the area being able to afford rates and taxes as the area is not the most affluent area in the country. Yes, a few people will flourish but the majority do not have the cash to sustain businesses. The likelihood of this turning into a little Joburg are nil. Any fool can build a shopping mall but if you don't have customers, then you don't have businesses and if you don't have businesses then you don't rent out the space.
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TrapStar
@Mzabalazowe had it from then but the difference is that Other countries were blinded from it. this tym everyone knows SA is now entering a new trend which might cost it a lot
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Mashesha99
@ Tasto you asking the wrong person really now, I was not there when the ARMS deal was planned but like I said, every town is run by it's employees. People will benefit from this!!@ MommaC How they wasted that money has got nothing to do with me but I also know for a fact that Mandela and his children togather with their children are living like kings and queens! It's just that people tend to lose focus on the bigger picture and follow whatever the media shows and tells them. Wake up, this has been going on way before J.Z became the president!!
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Tasto
Recently during the month of July we saw\reminded about the homestead of O.R Tambo with mud rondavels with falling walls.fortunatley there is an Arts&Culture department that is responsible for developing declared Heritage sites in South Africa.But in Nkandla don't know which category it falls under I can understand if this was for the entire KwaZulu like Ulundi or whateva legitimate Heritage site of Zulu Kingdom but not selfishness of greedy tribal old man!!Report Abuse
MommaC
Mashesha99Mandela made a fortune selling prints (remember some guy tried to rip it off?), his books, a peace prize and various other initiatives along with marrying a wealthy widow and a presidential retirement annuity. He may even have been involved in the arms deal but he seems to have made most of his cash the old fashioned way.
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@ Tasto bro CHANGE and DEVELPOMENT has to start somewhere.Just a few months ago people were complaining saying that Soweto gets all the attention from the government so I guess this is just another case of people wanting their home towns in gov's priority list hey??
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Tasto
@Mashesha99 - you the one who mention jobs creation, is it dangerous to look back at the other failed promises?P.S Remember the 5 million jobs he promised in his tenure? what abt SWC2010 only to be told it was not jobs but job opportunities? Wena is jobs or job-opportunities promise u talking abt?
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TrapStar
I think we should pay tax based on the province one is coming from and how the province spend their money. this would be the break down1. Limpopo - ANCYL propaganda- we would pay at most 12%
2. Gauteng - eTolling, World Class Roads, GauTrain, Skhothane expenses - 20%
3. Mpumalanga - Stadium Saga -13%
4. Kwazulu Natal - Zulu King polygamy needs, ZumaVille, (Other stunts to come from JZ) - 30% tax
5. Eastern Cape - 12%
6. North West - Marikana mine SAGA- 15%
7. Free State - Taxi driver SAGA
8. Northern Cape - 12%
9. Western Cape-Hellen Zilles needs, Gangs Patrol - 25%
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ManoftheSoil
@MommaC,Sinu, Somaartakeit, Candilicious and all other whingers and cocounuts, you tell us now, what is the solution giong foward , Its clear you hate ppl to get development in rural arears, not so long along the President was riding a tractor in Easterna cape where they gave a lot of tractors to the farming rural community, guess what all you haters started complaining , so you dont want the president to work, so you can complain more...bunch of .....Report Abuse
Mzabalazo
SEP 14, 2012TrapStar
@Mzabalazo
we had it from then but the difference is that Other countries were blinded from it. this tym everyone knows SA is now entering a new trend which might cost it a lot
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Like I said lucky you , as the millions were starving even then that is the truth, we never had or enjoyed SA financial gains, I am not trying to be smart or ridicule you, we never enjoyed anything, we have been victims then and we also victims now, people a getting better living at our expenses.
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TrapStar
@ManofTSEKU r an F00L, whats best between installing electricity and providing water where therre is no water and building a 2 Billion worth of a Dungeon. Did we pay the eToll money back before we even go there???
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ManoftheSoil - Havent said anything about nkandla today, merely addressing comments made here. Scroll up if you dont believe me.Hehe, you call us the whingers? What about the protests, and julius this week? The solution is simple. Dispose the ANC. They are useless and corrupt.
Why invest R2 billion into a new town, when the existing towns and townships out there dont have toilets, proper housing, heck even water. Spending R2 billion on an area with 150,000 people is an inefficient use of money. It equates to spending R15,000 per person.
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@Mzabalazowe had it from then but the difference is that Other countries were blinded from it. this tym everyone knows SA is now entering a new trend which might cost it a lot
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Like I said lucky you , as the millions were starving even then that is the truth, we never had or enjoyed SA financial gains, I am not trying to be smart or ridicule you, we never enjoyed anything, we have been victims then and we also victims now, people a getting better living at our expenses.
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better living at our expenses, very true. but now the question is how do we minimize that???
We cannot stop them that i know, But how do we make them aware. you know with a grade 8 a person this day is very rich, very very very very rich
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MommaC
ManoftheSoilBong, is that you?
Nobody is saying that rural areas should not be developed (oh and can you call it a rural area if it becomes an urban city?). On the contrary, we are all saying that a sustainable rural development should be done.
If Zuma was looking at building a farmers co-op, a grain silo, an agricultural college, a sewage plant and some water purification initiatives - we'd be on board. That would help the area a hell of a lot more than a shopping mall would
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@|Sinudeity|ManoftheSoil - Havent said anything about nkandla today, merely addressing comments made here. Scroll up if you dont believe me.
Hehe, you call us the whingers? What about the protests, and julius this week? The solution is simple. Dispose the ANC. They are useless and corrupt.
Why invest R2 billion into a new town, when the existing towns and townships out there dont have toilets, proper housing, heck even water. Spending R2 billion on an area with 150,000 people is an inefficient use of money. It equates to spending R15,000 per person.
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Thank you man, couldnt agree more
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Mzabalazo
SEP 14, 2012ManoftheSoil
@MommaC,Sinu, Somaartakeit, Candilicious and all other whingers and cocounuts, you tell us now, what is the solution giong foward , Its clear you hate ppl to get development in rural arears, not so long along the President was riding a tractor in Easterna cape where they gave a lot of tractors to the farming rural community, guess what all you haters started complaining , so you dont want the president to work, so you can complain more...bunch of .....
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Let me comment on the tractor, but unfortunately I do not have all the facts on who got the tractor, who monitors the tractors, are the people given a tractor able to maintain them?
But if I go with the RDP project the government just leave everything to people, for instance in the RDP houses the contractors were not monitored, they built millions of defunct houses, so if Zuma did the same mistake then he set the people of Eastern Cape to fail. But if all above questions are answered positively then Zuma has delivered the people of Eastern Cape from hunger, but sets the people of eNkandla to fail by building a city that is not going to change the people's lives. Sanditon City is a stone throw away from Alex and it did not improve the lives of the people of Alex as it was not build to do that. So tell us how will building a city for the have nots going to uplift the people eNkandla ?
What is going to sustain this city, please do not tell me about a Mall, how is the city going to generate funds? Cities are not build out of nothing, they develop from areas where there big business,eg. Ports, mines, factories and advanced farming that has mini- factories. How is this city going to sustain itself?
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Mashesha99
TrapStar@ManofTSEK
U r an F00L, whats best between installing electricity and providing water where therre is no water and building a 2 Billion worth of a Dungeon. Did we pay the eToll money back before we even go there???
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Do you seriously think that those unemployed people in the rural areas want water and electricity that they won't be able to afford?? This town being built will give them jobs and they will be able to live off their own pockets instead of asking for hand outs from the governmenet!!
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somaartakeit
I read that zuma wants to declare state of emergency in Marikane so he can protect assets of the rich, its actually funny, cause no one can be rich if miners do not have to go down and do the digging, so its only fair to give them their dues, otherwise Marikane is ripe for economic revolution, zuma please think jong, its not that hard.Report Abuse
Moffdat
|Sinudeity|Don't talk through your rear-end i am always mentioning the President's flaw. However you must think Zille sh.its rainbows
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Mzabalazo
TrapStarBy not voting them, by making a lot of noise where possible, such blogs do help, by debating with people and sharing with like minds, for now, should a revolution avail itself Join it and questions later.
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Moffdat - Hellen doesnt $h1t rainbows, but she $h1ts education, employment, healthcare and poverty reduction. I'll criticize her when there is something to badmouth.PS, follow me on twitter, and you will see where I harassed hellen to get an answer out of her regarding a corrupt DA politician. Unlike the ANC, I actually got an answer in the end, and the action that would be taken. And it didnt involve a slap on the wrist and redeployment.
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TrapStar
TrapStar@ManofTSEK
U r an F00L, whats best between installing electricity and providing water where therre is no water and building a 2 Billion worth of a Dungeon. Did we pay the eToll money back before we even go there???
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Do you seriously think that those unemployed people in the rural areas want water and electricity that they won't be able to afford?? This town being built will give them jobs and they will be able to live off their own pockets instead of asking for hand outs from the governmenet!!
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Dude its a CITY not a mine, Look at Sandton City and Alexander
@ Alex almost all of them know how to start a car without keys
@ Sandton City is surrounded by civilized people
Now look at it like this, They will employ them during construction and after construction its just going to be Sandton and Alex over again
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Moffdat
|Sinudeity|Moffdat - Hellen doesnt $h1t rainbows, but she $h1ts education, employment, healthcare and poverty reduction. I'll criticize her when there is something to badmouth.
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Like every other politician she promises those things... and promises... and promises.. How wealthy is Ms Zille anyway?
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@Mashesha99TrapStar
@ManofTSEK
U r an F00L, whats best between installing electricity and providing water where therre is no water and building a 2 Billion worth of a Dungeon. Did we pay the eToll money back before we even go there???
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Do you seriously think that those unemployed people in the rural areas want water and electricity that they won't be able to afford?? This town being built will give them jobs and they will be able to live off their own pockets instead of asking for hand outs from the governmenet!!
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Dude its a CITY not a mine, Look at Sandton City and Alexander
@ Alex almost all of them know how to start a car without keys
@ Sandton City is surrounded by civilized people
Now look at it like this, They will employ them during construction and after construction its just going to be Sandton and Alex over again
Ow one last thing,im definately sure that water and electricity to that place wont cost 2Billion. they can find something better to do with the change
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mashima?
"Developing that area does not trouble me, it makes me very proud"&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
Wa re very proud aowa monna. Ke youna mmetla shapo la tlala. Who's tax was spend here, why specifically Nkandla. how many areas in your country is underdeveloped or has needs than Nkandla. which criteria was used to select Nkandla. Why not the area of Mandela, Thabo Mbeki, Chris Hani, Steve Biko etc the list is endless.
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Moffdat - The ANC promises, the DA delivers. The odendaal dude I was referring to was fired and criminally charged.As for unemployment in CT, it dropped by 20% since the DA took over from the ANC. CT unemployment is 30% less than Joburg. WCape has the highest education statistics in South Africa, they overtook Gauteng once the DA took over. WCape also has the best healthcare statistics in all of South Africa.
In the DA's case, the promises are actually becoming reality.
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Moffdat - As for hellen's wealth, she declares her taxes. Income from being premier and for being head of the DA. Her husband is a professor. They dont own any businesses, or are shareholders in any business. As confirmed by the DTI.Few weeks ago, parlaiment tried to pass a bill blocking politicians from having ANY business interests involved with the government. ALL the opposition parties backed the bill. All ANC politicians opposed the bill.
And its not surprising, if we look at dudes like Tokyo, Cyril (At some stage, Tokyo and Cyril got 80% of all government tenders under Mbeki). Zuma's family and all its government tenders. Malema...
Follow the rot.
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somaartakeit
@Moffida it is actually a shame that you defend corruption (anc) even now Block is asked zuma to quash his corruption charges and he will deliver him NC in Manguang, do you see why many of us think zuma is the godfather of all corrupt who are now crawling into the anc?Report Abuse
Mashesha99
TrapStarTrapStar
@ManofTSEK
U r an F00L, whats best between installing electricity and providing water where therre is no water and building a 2 Billion worth of a Dungeon. Did we pay the eToll money back before we even go there???
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Do you seriously think that those unemployed people in the rural areas want water and electricity that they won't be able to afford?? This town being built will give them jobs and they will be able to live off their own pockets instead of asking for hand outs from the governmenet!!
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Dude its a CITY not a mine, Look at Sandton City and Alexander
@ Alex almost all of them know how to start a car without keys
@ Sandton City is surrounded by civilized people
Now look at it like this, They will employ them during construction and after construction its just going to be Sandton and Alex over again
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It's actually a Smart Growth Centre which will work on developing it's own people so everyone will gain something from this.
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Tango
Zuma responded by naming 23 poor districts nationwide which had been identified by government as recipients of upliftment programmes=====================================
So this means it is not Nkandla alone,why complain.
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mambaaai
this clown and these clowns blames everything on every one else and anything else..... but this is just an example of their priorities. 1st comes his d1ck and then other minor issues while the country is in chaos.... what else could we expect i supposeReport Abuse
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