Barack Obama send us some drones to wipe out some asshole. Soon they will join al qaeda. They are already al qaeda they take away your american interests, lol Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
Stimela
good, i so wish it was frans Baleni himself. nxa Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
AMO
May his soul rest in peace and condolences to d family Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
lindsay
@sowetan and other newspapers
this story of marikana as s holes is boring please write about something else really its reading about Malema everyday B OOOO RRRR IIII NNN GGG Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
BlackSeed
So media is trying so hard to disgrace and trash these miners so the blame can be put on their heads?
Well guess what, you can do that with Political Parties like the ANC but forget those silly tactics on people because they can see.
this story of marikana as s holes is boring please write about something else really its like reading about Malema everyday B OOOO RRRR IIII NNN GGG Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
Siphe15
Seoka said Mthinti might have been killed elsewhere.
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This is insane when two unions are fighting each other, you must be out of your mind to tell the nation such lies. And the poor man has been hacked with a sharp object, rest in peace Dumi Mthinti mfowethu! Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
MarriedMan
Seoka said Mthinti might have been killed elsewhere.
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Its easy to say such things when its not your family, if it was yours you were gonna find it ridiculous when somebody else made it. Now we are suppose to take the death of this family man lighty because it's only one person and not 34 and also not shot by police. Its ok when miners kill but not ok when they are killed. So that is what they want to be exact. Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
topdog009
RIP Dumi Mthinti..............So up till this far, nobody sees deeper into this frenzie and exarggerated bull stunts, coverage? Iyooo hayi masibuyeleni eskolweni or anyone who can pls educate us....raise up your hand. Classroom time manje is needed. Deepest apologies and sincere sadness to the Mthinti fam. Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
bearpup
Nobody needs to die anymore. These sick politicians taking advantage of their plight are the anti christ! There is a war in this country and unfortunately war does not discriminate. We will all be victims if something is not done now! Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
BlackSeed
topdog009
And how do you suggest to classroom to solve this one? By teaching them mathematics?
This is wrong no wonder police s.hot those AMCO members , now we all know why , they are murders who must be charged , how can they k.ill a Cosatu shop steward Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
lidodaduvha11
why Zuma is not coming to help, he is afraid of the peopel who voted him? and when they canvasses they are not afraid. Viva Malema viva. Malema for President. Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
topdog009
@BlackSeed...Something has gone horribly wrong, we have lost something crucial somewhere somehow, and we can only find it if we can go back to eklasini, learn the ropes of ubuntu, 8 ways to govern, umrhabulo and take irubber and pencil with to do some few changes kwiConstitution. Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
topdog009
Radicals: This group opposes all sorts of social rank and authority. It is anti-corporation, anti-free market, anti-religion, and even slightly anti-government in etc...( The likes of you know ) Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
BlackSeed
topdog009
Yes, something horribly went wrong in the salary advice of those miners. Maybe irubber and pencil could be used to change R 4,000.00 to just R12, 500.00 per month without bloodshed don’t you think?
You learn Ubuntu not in class but at home from your parents; if they don’t have, you look around in the neighborhood for the right teachings.
@BlackSeed, fully agree with you when you say at home is where ubuntu should be initiated, but how can you say you learn ubuntu out there when you and I can see for ourselves how the ball has shifted emphakathini.....As for the R4000 vs R12 500 I think the gap should be closed asap and atleast to R8000 is sensible. What do you think? Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
ChampRef
where is my comment Sowetan?
I say tse ke mesebetsi ya malema. Look at how fat he is, the car he is driving. He is taking this poor miners for a ride. There is nothing that malema can do for these people. Please Pres Zuma do something before it is worse. Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
cornelius
Pack it in Bishop , you cannot be a ,man of the cloth and try to deny the obvious truth. Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
topdog009
@ ChampRef....you said it, so true! Shame our brothers, uncles and babas believe every word he passes out ngomlomo wakhe. Unesono esikhulu. Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
MommaC
Bishop Jo Seoka has either been partaking a bit too much of the confirmation wine or snorting the incense. Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
topdog009
"He had two open wounds at the back of his head that showed he was hacked with a sharp object.”
Lord have mercy, this is now enough PLEASE! Another widow and fam expose to further poverty. Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
topdog009
Dont tell me these stories will form part of the history, we dont need such nonsense to be written and read to our future generation, Pls. Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
Mokgaditse
According to Seoka, the guy infront is carring a stick not a panga.Look at the panga, it looks redish,he is the culprit the police must arrest him. Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
topdog009
This young man is wayyyyy of the mark and rolled off the wagon a longtime ago....why give him coverage? To embarras us even further out more? The world has its eyes on us, our men and children are dying out there and he is been given a platform like this? *WHISTLING* Im hurting on behalf of all those who cant read between the lines and comprehend, we come a long way lets not mess it up this way. Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
Mosquer
lindsay
this story of marikana as s holes is boring please write about something else really its like reading about Malema everyday B OOOO RRRR IIII NNN GGG
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We wanted to know who killed that man Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
topdog009
Someone must adrs those mamas and girlfriends to these miners, make them understand what realy is going on behind the political door. Maybe they ( miners fam ) could knock some sense into these poor souls brains, blood has been shed and thats enough. Malema hits home at anytime his blah blah moments even if its way after 12midnite, and will have a bite in his fridge with some wash down and the miners? Kose batsheleke qala... No work no pay no gain no fridge no wash down.... Get to bed with thunder noises in their stomachs. Report Abuse
oo Morena Boloka Sethjaba sa heso- Ofedise Dintwa le matshwenyeho.ooo seboloke oo seboloke Sethjaba sa South Africa Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
topdog009
I can imagine some politicians saying "Juju memeza kakhulu Mzansi cant hear you, pls ridicule the state more" and they draw their curtains waiting for his noise to make an impact, shame on you! Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
paracute
we seem not to know what democracy is, why are we still killing other people when they don't want to strike ? i think it's their political right no to.but anyhow re tloreng bathong re buswa ke bo Malema who fattened their pockets with money and then laugh at our back when we cry pretending to cry with us, re a ditseba sellout re ba ithutile ka nako tsa struggle we know the likes of Malema. I feel pity for those who are still being fooled by people of his kind. he can't take you anywhere. if you needed a shoulder to cry on why le sa zame Zille because nowadays ke yena a kgonang ho tlaetsa batho ba ba ntsi.Bo Holomisa.Lekota,Malema,Mphahlele,le bo Themba Godi, Bao ke frustrated, bitter and angry towards the ANC. guys I hate Politicians for they are liars all of them. Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
topdog009
Our fellow SAfricans are being used to settle political scores.....by the likes of we know who...Shame on you former politicians, you also have blood on your hands. Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
Bossokenna
@lindsay
Its boring because you have not lost someone frrom this trategy. While you are sitting comfortably in your office, sipping coffee and commenting on your ipad, someone has lost a dad, husband, brother, grandfather. Someone out there dont know where the next meal will be coming from because the breadwinner is no more.
malema must be a happy man, pity Zar is closed in Sandton, he was going to get a free beer tonight! Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
topdog009
Wait a minute maybe just maybe Malema can accomodate those widow women and children under his roof? Nx silly. Or is he going to do his usual apology after we loose more souls in this country. Pick another fight Julius, move over this one is surely to bite back at you. These are human beings for real boet. Lives you are toying with. Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
JohnStone
I wish the Bishop was a true Christian who told no lies. We have seen those miners at the koppie carrying weapons, they even forced a hospital to close when they marched there a day or so ago. Before the shooting that left 34 dead, they had set alight security guards (alive), or maybe the Bishop regards that as exorcism of demons? Two policemen were hacked to death and their faces were unrecognizable, six miners were also hacked, four were Num shopsterwards and the other two were ordinary Num members. There is no war between AMCU and NUM, but there is a war declared on NUM by AMCU. No member of Solidarity, Cepawu and Uasa have been attacked so far, they have just been threatened with death by the same illegal strikers that the Bishop alleges "are not violent".
I also disagree with those who think that Pres Zuma must intervene, why? The govt has put dispute resolution mechanisms in place at the work place inline with the labour laws of the country and such must be given a chance and space to assist in breaking the deadlock. The biggest stumbling block is that the strikers are not prepared to move an inch towards the negotiating table unless "their demands are met". What will be the point of negotiating after "their demands are met"?
AMCU must bear in mind that they do not hold the patent to killing, those who are victims today will not remain victims forever. Why kill other workers who have no powers to increase salaries or change working conditions? Why not direct your weapons at those who hold power? Is this a political ploy or a wage dispute? Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
Phathuza
That Guy was killed by Marikana protesters , Those guys wanted to kill the police also because the sangoma said dont turn back How you fight a gun with a spear isigela siyahlupha some times Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
topdog009
Are we really expecting the Presidency, President to respond on these Malemas personal aims at regaining what he once almost had, a chance to mobilize constructively? Where are the women and children who depend on these mine workers to set food on their table? Perhaps they should march to Malemas house and demand a share in his holdings he scraped whilst he was active in the Youth League, he very much knows what he scored and gained financialy. Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
Sjekula
The Bishop is a disgrace to the Anglican Church congregation, he has just degraded himself to a mere opportunist, we grew up ngomzabalazo, and we know what happens if workers start labeling others amagundwane(rats), what were they doing e-mine since they didn't sign the peace accord and said they were not going back to work, sibadala masingaka bishop. Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
Sjekula
Malema is very slow, it takes him 5 years to understand, he'll regret in 2017 ever supporting the Marikana miners on their killings as he did with pledging his life for Zuma. Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
topdog009
The problem with "some" ( you know who ) who were never technically involved ngomzabalazo tend to chase things around with no direction or end point, just like a dog chasing a post man. H Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
topdog009
Check this......
Mama "Malema come here, say voetsek to all in Mzansi I will give you your podium back"
Malema "Ok dankie my mama...Hey nina fools voetsek kini nonke"
Mama " Good boy my girl, now catch this grena##, pull out the pin and throw it up there to all"
Malema " Sure sure mama is gona organize moss ne for me to get my position back moss moss ne?
Mama closes her ears waiting for the gren## to go off just nods not even looking at him
Malema "Ok my mama...*pulls the pin in excitement and booooooooooo* "Eish Im sorry!
Malema is under severe pressure, his predecessors are now ministers, Gigaba and Mbalula, but his future is full of mist, "Ikusasa lakhe linenkungu". Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
topdog009
"While Malema was attending sushi parties and benefiting in tenders, the NUM structures and leadership were busy representing mineworkers and trying to improve their lives," the union said. Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
topdog009
It accused Malema of "irresponsible and reckless posturing" and blamed him for the death of an NUM shop steward, killed at Lonmin's Marikana mine this week.
"While Malema is using this issue to resuscitate his political career, the miners' future is being slowly destroyed and the seeds of anarchy are being planted in an already violent country." Report Abuse
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warry
Barack Obama send us some drones to wipe out some asshole. Soon they will join al qaeda. They are already al qaeda they take away your american interests, lolReport Abuse
Stimela
good, i so wish it was frans Baleni himself. nxaReport Abuse
AMO
May his soul rest in peace and condolences to d familyReport Abuse
lindsay
@sowetan and other newspapersthis story of marikana as s holes is boring please write about something else really its reading about Malema everyday B OOOO RRRR IIII NNN GGG
Report Abuse
BlackSeed
So media is trying so hard to disgrace and trash these miners so the blame can be put on their heads?Well guess what, you can do that with Political Parties like the ANC but forget those silly tactics on people because they can see.
You cannot fool the people all the time
Report Abuse
lindsay
this story of marikana as s holes is boring please write about something else really its like reading about Malema everyday B OOOO RRRR IIII NNN GGGReport Abuse
Siphe15
Seoka said Mthinti might have been killed elsewhere.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This is insane when two unions are fighting each other, you must be out of your mind to tell the nation such lies. And the poor man has been hacked with a sharp object, rest in peace Dumi Mthinti mfowethu!
Report Abuse
MarriedMan
Seoka said Mthinti might have been killed elsewhere..............................................................................
Its easy to say such things when its not your family, if it was yours you were gonna find it ridiculous when somebody else made it. Now we are suppose to take the death of this family man lighty because it's only one person and not 34 and also not shot by police. Its ok when miners kill but not ok when they are killed. So that is what they want to be exact.
Report Abuse
topdog009
RIP Dumi Mthinti..............So up till this far, nobody sees deeper into this frenzie and exarggerated bull stunts, coverage? Iyooo hayi masibuyeleni eskolweni or anyone who can pls educate us....raise up your hand. Classroom time manje is needed. Deepest apologies and sincere sadness to the Mthinti fam.Report Abuse
bearpup
Nobody needs to die anymore. These sick politicians taking advantage of their plight are the anti christ! There is a war in this country and unfortunately war does not discriminate. We will all be victims if something is not done now!Report Abuse
BlackSeed
topdog009And how do you suggest to classroom to solve this one? By teaching them mathematics?
Report Abuse
Flemza
This is wrong no wonder police s.hot those AMCO members , now we all know why , they are murders who must be charged , how can they k.ill a Cosatu shop stewardReport Abuse
lidodaduvha11
why Zuma is not coming to help, he is afraid of the peopel who voted him? and when they canvasses they are not afraid. Viva Malema viva. Malema for President.Report Abuse
topdog009
@BlackSeed...Something has gone horribly wrong, we have lost something crucial somewhere somehow, and we can only find it if we can go back to eklasini, learn the ropes of ubuntu, 8 ways to govern, umrhabulo and take irubber and pencil with to do some few changes kwiConstitution.Report Abuse
topdog009
Radicals: This group opposes all sorts of social rank and authority. It is anti-corporation, anti-free market, anti-religion, and even slightly anti-government in etc...( The likes of you know )Report Abuse
BlackSeed
topdog009Yes, something horribly went wrong in the salary advice of those miners. Maybe irubber and pencil could be used to change R 4,000.00 to just R12, 500.00 per month without bloodshed don’t you think?
You learn Ubuntu not in class but at home from your parents; if they don’t have, you look around in the neighborhood for the right teachings.
Report Abuse
topdog009
@BlackSeed, fully agree with you when you say at home is where ubuntu should be initiated, but how can you say you learn ubuntu out there when you and I can see for ourselves how the ball has shifted emphakathini.....As for the R4000 vs R12 500 I think the gap should be closed asap and atleast to R8000 is sensible. What do you think?Report Abuse
ChampRef
where is my comment Sowetan?I say tse ke mesebetsi ya malema. Look at how fat he is, the car he is driving. He is taking this poor miners for a ride. There is nothing that malema can do for these people. Please Pres Zuma do something before it is worse.
Report Abuse
cornelius
Pack it in Bishop , you cannot be a ,man of the cloth and try to deny the obvious truth.Report Abuse
topdog009
@ ChampRef....you said it, so true! Shame our brothers, uncles and babas believe every word he passes out ngomlomo wakhe. Unesono esikhulu.Report Abuse
MommaC
Bishop Jo Seoka has either been partaking a bit too much of the confirmation wine or snorting the incense.Report Abuse
topdog009
"He had two open wounds at the back of his head that showed he was hacked with a sharp object.”Lord have mercy, this is now enough PLEASE! Another widow and fam expose to further poverty.
Report Abuse
topdog009
Dont tell me these stories will form part of the history, we dont need such nonsense to be written and read to our future generation, Pls.Report Abuse
Mokgaditse
According to Seoka, the guy infront is carring a stick not a panga.Look at the panga, it looks redish,he is the culprit the police must arrest him.Report Abuse
topdog009
This young man is wayyyyy of the mark and rolled off the wagon a longtime ago....why give him coverage? To embarras us even further out more? The world has its eyes on us, our men and children are dying out there and he is been given a platform like this? *WHISTLING* Im hurting on behalf of all those who cant read between the lines and comprehend, we come a long way lets not mess it up this way.Report Abuse
Mosquer
lindsaythis story of marikana as s holes is boring please write about something else really its like reading about Malema everyday B OOOO RRRR IIII NNN GGG
************************************************************************
We wanted to know who killed that man
Report Abuse
topdog009
Someone must adrs those mamas and girlfriends to these miners, make them understand what realy is going on behind the political door. Maybe they ( miners fam ) could knock some sense into these poor souls brains, blood has been shed and thats enough. Malema hits home at anytime his blah blah moments even if its way after 12midnite, and will have a bite in his fridge with some wash down and the miners? Kose batsheleke qala... No work no pay no gain no fridge no wash down.... Get to bed with thunder noises in their stomachs.Report Abuse
masenya
@lindsay,eish ha ha ha ha sorryReport Abuse
Praise-
oo Morena Boloka Sethjaba sa heso- Ofedise Dintwa le matshwenyeho.ooo seboloke oo seboloke Sethjaba sa South AfricaReport Abuse
topdog009
I can imagine some politicians saying "Juju memeza kakhulu Mzansi cant hear you, pls ridicule the state more" and they draw their curtains waiting for his noise to make an impact, shame on you!Report Abuse
paracute
we seem not to know what democracy is, why are we still killing other people when they don't want to strike ? i think it's their political right no to.but anyhow re tloreng bathong re buswa ke bo Malema who fattened their pockets with money and then laugh at our back when we cry pretending to cry with us, re a ditseba sellout re ba ithutile ka nako tsa struggle we know the likes of Malema. I feel pity for those who are still being fooled by people of his kind. he can't take you anywhere. if you needed a shoulder to cry on why le sa zame Zille because nowadays ke yena a kgonang ho tlaetsa batho ba ba ntsi.Bo Holomisa.Lekota,Malema,Mphahlele,le bo Themba Godi, Bao ke frustrated, bitter and angry towards the ANC. guys I hate Politicians for they are liars all of them.Report Abuse
topdog009
Our fellow SAfricans are being used to settle political scores.....by the likes of we know who...Shame on you former politicians, you also have blood on your hands.Report Abuse
Bossokenna
@lindsayIts boring because you have not lost someone frrom this trategy. While you are sitting comfortably in your office, sipping coffee and commenting on your ipad, someone has lost a dad, husband, brother, grandfather. Someone out there dont know where the next meal will be coming from because the breadwinner is no more.
Report Abuse
swona
malema must be a happy man, pity Zar is closed in Sandton, he was going to get a free beer tonight!Report Abuse
topdog009
Wait a minute maybe just maybe Malema can accomodate those widow women and children under his roof? Nx silly. Or is he going to do his usual apology after we loose more souls in this country. Pick another fight Julius, move over this one is surely to bite back at you. These are human beings for real boet. Lives you are toying with.Report Abuse
JohnStone
I wish the Bishop was a true Christian who told no lies. We have seen those miners at the koppie carrying weapons, they even forced a hospital to close when they marched there a day or so ago. Before the shooting that left 34 dead, they had set alight security guards (alive), or maybe the Bishop regards that as exorcism of demons? Two policemen were hacked to death and their faces were unrecognizable, six miners were also hacked, four were Num shopsterwards and the other two were ordinary Num members. There is no war between AMCU and NUM, but there is a war declared on NUM by AMCU. No member of Solidarity, Cepawu and Uasa have been attacked so far, they have just been threatened with death by the same illegal strikers that the Bishop alleges "are not violent".I also disagree with those who think that Pres Zuma must intervene, why? The govt has put dispute resolution mechanisms in place at the work place inline with the labour laws of the country and such must be given a chance and space to assist in breaking the deadlock. The biggest stumbling block is that the strikers are not prepared to move an inch towards the negotiating table unless "their demands are met". What will be the point of negotiating after "their demands are met"?
AMCU must bear in mind that they do not hold the patent to killing, those who are victims today will not remain victims forever. Why kill other workers who have no powers to increase salaries or change working conditions? Why not direct your weapons at those who hold power? Is this a political ploy or a wage dispute?
Report Abuse
Phathuza
That Guy was killed by Marikana protesters , Those guys wanted to kill the police also because the sangoma said dont turn back How you fight a gun with a spear isigela siyahlupha some timesReport Abuse
topdog009
Are we really expecting the Presidency, President to respond on these Malemas personal aims at regaining what he once almost had, a chance to mobilize constructively? Where are the women and children who depend on these mine workers to set food on their table? Perhaps they should march to Malemas house and demand a share in his holdings he scraped whilst he was active in the Youth League, he very much knows what he scored and gained financialy.Report Abuse
Sjekula
The Bishop is a disgrace to the Anglican Church congregation, he has just degraded himself to a mere opportunist, we grew up ngomzabalazo, and we know what happens if workers start labeling others amagundwane(rats), what were they doing e-mine since they didn't sign the peace accord and said they were not going back to work, sibadala masingaka bishop.Report Abuse
Sjekula
Malema is very slow, it takes him 5 years to understand, he'll regret in 2017 ever supporting the Marikana miners on their killings as he did with pledging his life for Zuma.Report Abuse
topdog009
The problem with "some" ( you know who ) who were never technically involved ngomzabalazo tend to chase things around with no direction or end point, just like a dog chasing a post man. HReport Abuse
topdog009
Check this......Mama "Malema come here, say voetsek to all in Mzansi I will give you your podium back"
Malema "Ok dankie my mama...Hey nina fools voetsek kini nonke"
Mama " Good boy my girl, now catch this grena##, pull out the pin and throw it up there to all"
Malema " Sure sure mama is gona organize moss ne for me to get my position back moss moss ne?
Mama closes her ears waiting for the gren## to go off just nods not even looking at him
Malema "Ok my mama...*pulls the pin in excitement and booooooooooo* "Eish Im sorry!
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topdog009
HlanyaReport Abuse
Sjekula
Malema is under severe pressure, his predecessors are now ministers, Gigaba and Mbalula, but his future is full of mist, "Ikusasa lakhe linenkungu".Report Abuse
topdog009
"While Malema was attending sushi parties and benefiting in tenders, the NUM structures and leadership were busy representing mineworkers and trying to improve their lives," the union said.Report Abuse
topdog009
It accused Malema of "irresponsible and reckless posturing" and blamed him for the death of an NUM shop steward, killed at Lonmin's Marikana mine this week."While Malema is using this issue to resuscitate his political career, the miners' future is being slowly destroyed and the seeds of anarchy are being planted in an already violent country."
Report Abuse
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