Wed May 22 13:54:47 SAST 2013

Killings 'inside ANC'

Sep 13, 2012 | Sapa | 40 comments

ONE of the men accused of killing two KwaZulu-Natal ANC leaders is a local ANC Youth League branch leader, the party said.

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Sep 13, 2012

|Sinudeity|

ANC politicians killing ANC politicians... wow, I cant believe we still have folks defending the ANC on these forums.
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Sep 13, 2012

Papage

Chickens have come home to roast
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Sep 13, 2012

Sboro

Someone once predicted the organisation will eat itself - everyone wants to feed. (Pun intended.)
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Sep 13, 2012

Kgaoza606

ANC of today nneh, let's blame this one on apartheid, or rather Zilles. Is this what bo Mandela, Biko, Tambo,etc fought so hard for, only for the ANC and particularly us Blacks to eat and finish ourselves up for mere greed and fat bellies??? Shockin n disapponting...
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Sep 13, 2012

Voetzek

but Zulu people are not good in thinking all they know is fight, singing poem before beating someone eish
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Sep 13, 2012

lindsay

i blame apartheid for this
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Sep 13, 2012

Lehido

Mangaung is going to be more bloody than Polokwane, Figuretively or Practically
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Sep 13, 2012

LeparaThePresident

@Kgaoza606
ANC of today nneh, let's blame this one on apartheid, or rather Zilles. Is this what bo Mandela, Biko, Tambo,etc fought so hard for, only for the ANC and particularly us Blacks to eat and finish ourselves up for mere greed and fat bellies??? Shockin n disapponting...
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Cdr Kgaoza6o6, would you care to expand on apartheid and Zille is involvement on this issue? I guess Zille stays in Cape Town, did she hire hit sguard? Or is dir groot krokodile waker woord?
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Sep 13, 2012

Vhamsanda

Not different from Taxi killings .
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Sep 13, 2012

LeparaThePresident

@lindsay
i blame apartheid for this
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Based on which grounds lol?

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Sep 13, 2012

Kabelo10

This is really strange, killing somebody for positions. Hai SA ke mehlolo fela mn.
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Sep 13, 2012

lindsay

@lepara

the president said we must blame it here i am blaming it
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Sep 13, 2012

MommaC

Politics are a nervous business in KZN

By the way, what happened about that Frank character from Moz who was supposedly a hitman for the factions?
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Sep 13, 2012

ThirdEye

@Sinudeity
Some of us if we defend, we defend the ANC not criminals.It not the ANC who kill people but individuals who have membership of the ANC who committe crime.

As for the Article, this Khumalo guy was stupid. Killing someone for councillor position is ridiculous. And I'm not saying any other killing is justified but this one shows there is no capacity to think to this fellow.
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Sep 13, 2012

2shy2call

Khumalo is he the one I saw talking to Julius?
Jaa Maan Ke yena.
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Sep 13, 2012

2shy2call

@lindsay
i blame apartheid for this
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@LeaparaThe President
Based on which grounds lol?
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Me too. I can't satisfy my wife sexual, when she complains I blame Apartheid.

My brother is a womanizer, he always blame apartheid when he is busted.

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Sep 13, 2012

|Sinudeity|

ThirdEye - "we defend the ANC not criminals."

Yeah you do. The criminals are regularly defended. Standing outside courtrooms, threatening to "Kill for corrupt criminal". The criminals have overrun the party.
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Sep 13, 2012

ThirdEye

@Sinudeity
If your memory serves you well, you will recall that Vavi has spoken against that. He further said the ANC must push for a resolution that says if you are having a case that is pending that person must not stand for a position in the ANC.That is my stance as well, I don't support criminals. But I would support those that I think are victimised by accusing them that they are corrupt & Zuma is not one of them.

There are those who go to court to make noise in support of corrupt leaders like John Block in the Northern Cape. That is a rented crowd that doesn't suscribe to any principle of our Movement but to a individual. Then we can't be painted with one brush.
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Sep 13, 2012

swona

ANC is a scary movement, it's not only in KZN, Mpumalanga is worse, one murderer Milton Morema the former counselor, killed a lot of people, latest being provincial chief whip Johan Ndlovu, evidence in court points at him, yet he is still sleeping at his house with his wife and eat pap cooked by his wife everyday, police and the Hawks have the evidence that was given in courts bt the guy is enjoying chisa nyama around Acornhoek!
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Sep 13, 2012

|Sinudeity|

ThirdEye - Vavi is a useless tool. He speaks out against corruption, but then 5minutes later, he's back to his usual "50 shades of Vavi", l1cking the scrotum of Zuma.

Parliament had a bill pass through its desks the other day, which will DISALLOW all government officials from having ANY business-ties with the government. All the opposition parties voted in favour of the bill, all the ANC politicians voted against the bill.
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Sep 13, 2012

|Sinudeity|

ThirdEye - "That is a rented crowd that doesn't suscribe to any principle of our Movement but to a individual. Then we can't be painted with one brush."


Problem is, when its in the ANC's favour, then its all about the individual. But as soon as someone has to take responsibility, then the ANC is a 'collective'.
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Sep 13, 2012

Arewanga

This can only be done by Zulus, Morons.
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Sep 13, 2012

DA-DBN-GUY

|Sinudeity|

Problem is, when its in the ANC's favour, then its all about the individual. But as soon as someone has to take responsibility, then the ANC is a 'collective'.
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You hit the nail on the head there dude. No accountability within the anc and when the paw paw hits the fan its individuals within the anc to blame. But what does the "collective" do about it NIKS
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Sep 13, 2012

VENDALIOUS

Who gives a f*ck!...... let them zulus kill each other
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Sep 13, 2012

P4T

The ANC should have transformed its liberation movement status to a sophisticated modern day democratic political party. If it did so, then it would not attract members like these.

Kumanje iANC sekuyezigebengu, people who thrive on corruption and use it for employment / personal gain purposes.

The party is the opposite of how it was when led by OR. It is slowly but surely collapsing. Anybody who loves, cares and knows about the ANC can never deny this.
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Sep 13, 2012

LeparaThePresident

2shy2call
@lindsay
i blame apartheid for this
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@LeaparaThe President
Based on which grounds lol?
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Me too. I can't satisfy my wife sexual, when she complains I blame Apartheid.

My brother is a womanizer, he always blame apartheid when he is busted
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Verwoed will one day wakes up.
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Sep 13, 2012

LeparaThePresident

@lindsay
@lepara

the president said we must blame it here i am blaming it
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wish you saw that comedian guy on etv yesterday Late Nite with loyiso gala something like that. He show too much democray by zille, blame it onapartheid by zuma and frans baleni, and juju 's tirade with zuma
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Sep 13, 2012

webcaddler

yerrrr these zulus, even during the apartheid years they (IFP, mainly zulus) sided wit the apartheid government and fought against the massive ANC. zuluzz zuluz zuluz...ncncncncnci
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Sep 13, 2012

Popeye

KZN - Killing Zulu Nation...
Let us pray....................................................Amen.
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Sep 13, 2012

Honeybadger

webcaddler
yerrrr these zulus, even during the apartheid years they (IFP, mainly zulus) sided wit the apartheid government and fought against the massive ANC. zuluzz zuluz zuluz...ncncncncnci
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hahaha!!! let bygones be bygones.
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Sep 13, 2012

Stimela

you cant blame IFP for this one, yes
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Sep 13, 2012

Mangoz

go on kill each other, u became a mafia party anyway.
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Sep 13, 2012

itsinshecried

we, the black people especially us (the Zulu's) are hungry to kill one another. I hate to be a black person. I wish I was coloured or indian. Ngiyasinyanya isizwe sami. Amathongo akithi asilahlile.
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Sep 13, 2012

bearpup

All i read here are angry people venting out the anger and discord. Why are we as a nation (of all races) more comfortable sitting on our bottoms and fearlessly using our freedom of speech via forums such as these. Why can't we take it to the streets with as much vigor? Why don't we collectively demand change? Are we comfortable sitting back and saying "its a problem but i don't know how to solve it." It's disgusting that people are killing each other. You have one life, only one and after that there is nothing... I pity the poor families who have to deal with the pain of loosing a husband, a father, a nephew, an uncle, a grandfather. There is no greater truth saying that what divides us, brings us together. We must stop judging each other by the colour of our skins. We should start judging each other on how we treat our people with respect. When we do this, and leave the tribalism and greed behind a natural course of harmony will be for the better of all.
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Sep 13, 2012

ThirdEye

@Sinudeity

Ours is to point out the difference between the ANC & Individuals, then it up to you to confuse yourself.
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Sep 13, 2012

MommaC

What a bunch of tribalistic nonsense on this string.
No wonder SA is such a mess, there are no individuals, there are only stereotypes. It is a miracle we haven't had a Rwanda moment of our own yet.
Blerrie ignoramuses
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Sep 13, 2012

|Sinudeity|

ThirdEye - Just like I have to point out regularly the difference between party and state.
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Sep 13, 2012

Caramelcake

It shows that even the people whom we think represents the interests of the people are just power hungry. Lord pls forgive them for they know not what the're doing. We will forever pray for peace in South Africa.
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Sep 13, 2012

WarrenG

Time to disband this ANCYL -
like a snake shedding it's old decepit skin.
The old skin that if not shedded with hamper the growth,
And they'll always be under the gun from the YL, never agreeing on anything.
A fukken ball and chain, or an albatross, if you so like!!
Like grow up now ANC, break away and the cut the cord of the ANCYL
This baby has grown up and can now be it's very own beast.
Let it go...

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Sep 13, 2012

somaartakeit

let them (corrupt thieves) get on with it,
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