Ah, if not blaming apartheid, it will be blaming the distribution of wealth. And then when someone praises Julius, who deprived hundreds of millions of rands from the poor, then you know the commentator doesnt know what she is talking about. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
truthhurt
I hope your statement is genuine and its not just a stunt to increase sales, coz i hear your album is not doing that well! Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Ndele01
This is what happens when you put your friends in charge rather than persons who have the experience - from the President right down to the lowest levels of Government. Dancing with a gun doesn't mean you can lead a country. The gravy train is over. We can only blame ourselves.
We chose through our freedom and democracy to put the ruling party in charge. We chose Presidents with no, or low levels of knowledge and experience to improve the peoples lives.
Live with it or change your vote - it might however, be too late. The people want freedom but take no responsibility. Some are even so cowardly that they don't even vote ! (We choose Violence before the Vote). Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Youthof76
Hayi bo! Steve Biko has nothing to do with the Freedom Charter. In fact, Steve Biko is the proponent of aBlack Consciousness Movement which is an ideology of its own which runs parallel to the Charterists ideology. The Chaterists ideology is founded on basis the Freedom Charter.
Poverty levels may be high, I do not deny that but we need to be properly informed on the ideologies of our politics Dana and all the young aspirant politicians. You do not pluck a name and associate with the political ideology as you wish.
Political education will help those who are ready to be educated. For instance, Malema was given numerous advices by the ANC to receive political education. He ignored all the good advices because he thinks he comes from heaven and wants to erase history so that he makes his own. Shame! Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
PhantomLimb
I think Simphiwe Dana should consider only singing from now on. Though I acknowledge the need for quality education I do not support the notion of a welfare country where everyone is too lazy to get off they backsides and do something with their lives because they are waiting on government grants. It will take generations upon generations of education and hard work to truly free us black people from the grip of poverty, not 18 years. The worst thing we can do for our nation is to panic and start supporting populist retards like Malema who have about as much interest in helping the poor as the do in washing their own laundry. Let's get the political situation right (stop voting for ANC) then address our challenges by priority and I tell you in 30 years we will all see a very significant improvement in the quality of life of regular South Africans. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Papage
I think there is a need to revive Black Conscious Movement, ANC has lost direction. We need a better party to lead SA. I wish Zuma and his Ministers can listen to Simphiwe Dana. ANC need to stop and re focus. We can't affort to have individuals tearing the Country apart. What Juju and his followers are doing is not right for the Country, I see people fighting for things that could be solved in a correct manner, right now I hear he will be addressing Soldiers, what is that? It shows the revolution is just around the corner, before we know it people will be killing each other. Please ANC show us the way. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Kwetja1206
lets commomorate and fight for economic freedom in our lifetime,and live the dream of Steve Biko...Viva Report Abuse
I have to wonder which Steve Biko Dana is talking about.
He would have been horrified by Malema and he couldn't stand the ANC. Not only that but (to my recollection) he didn't have anything to do with the Freedom Charter. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Lungu
@Dana is your music career fading or what? Please leave politics to ppl who knows about them and stick to your music creativity not public stunts. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Shredder
@Papage - I think there is a need to revive Black Conscious Movement, ANC has lost direction.
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Indeed there is a need to revive that movement, not only the ANC, but most of black people, especially the younger ones have lost the direction. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
candilious
Next thing you know Dana & Malema will be in front page supporting sharing wealth.Yet in another breathe she says he is no Biko some people neh Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Letanta
"It becomes more necessary to see the truth as it is if you realize that the only vehicle for change are these people who have lost their personality" Steve Biko. You spotted the truth and therefor Truth Hurts...... Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
ancnduntsu
How many Freedom Charters do we have? I thought it belonged to the multiple fractured(chaotic) anc. This nonsense of lamenting abt dead individuals is nauseating. May be the same Biko(she is lamenting abt) could have been corrupt today .Who knows. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Mmaditopo
If Steve Biko is the same guy I have read about over the years, he is turning in his grave! I do not think that the "revolution" he and his comrades were fighting for is the same as the one which is happening in this country of ours.. Report Abuse
Anyways, change starts with you Dana. Start sharing your wealth with the poor. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
ThegirlNzima
So now everyone is going to sound as if they care about poor people.!If you do share your salaries with the poor. siyekeni tu!. you know nothing just shut up Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
kolobe
there is no difference between biko, mandela and malema. even back then there were black cowards who didnt want to hear mandelas name like to we have some blacks hating malema. malema is powerful and not just sitting on his a$$, if you have an issue with him start your own organisation Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
madimetsha
Steve Biko believed in mental decolonisation of Blacks and thats what he stood for.....blacks had to believe in our own, had to respect each other, currently we only respect the white man hence he still controlling us...the chains and colonisation was abolished, the mental one remains and its the saddest one...Example ,Blacks go to indian/white Drs, but he other races will never go to a black Dr.....its disgusting for Dana to use his name for her brand value increase........,.please focus on music and dont talk about what you dont know........ Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
madimetsha
Malema wants mines to be owned by goverment, so he can have access to the cash.......... Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
MorenaWaPolelo
I see Dana is actualy applying to perfom at Majunju's mine visits, what does she know about Biko's legacy or ideology eish foools Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Chichi7
Wealth redistribution? To who? People that have working hard for it or the majority that lie on their backs and find nothing but blame to others and not themselves.
People need to stop this business of stretching a hand to receive and learn to toil for every penny they earn. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
LostGuy
Sinudeity|
Anyways, change starts with you Dana. Start sharing your wealth with the poor
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anything to protect the apartheid legacy DAna nevert accumulated unfairly dude, never k..ll blaks to get where she is now which we can say less about your race people. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
siya0505
Who does she think she is? go back and sleep with married men.... Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Ment'o
Simphiwe, true african princess, few individuals use their talent to promote whats good, even if you dont sell sweety history will tell of your true african mind, free from western thoughts. Biko's legacy is not the only on that is being failed but all those who died for liberation of africa, not only socially but economically. Nationalisation is what the haven did from creation. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
imbabazane
MommaC
I have to wonder which Steve Biko Dana is talking about.
He would have been horrified by Malema and he couldn't stand the ANC. Not only that but (to my recollection) he didn't have anything to do with the Freedom Charter.
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Spot on Momma
With all due respects to my favorite musician, but she is talking Bolockss...
Biko was about self determination and and self love....not Free this and free that. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Makhosini0408
Morning All
Ignorance is bliss, Ms Dana. Thank you for trying though.
The Apartheid regime robbed us great thinkers and philosophers. That is why we have clowns in our polotical arena as it is referred to, today.
Robert Sobukwe, Steve Biko and Chris Hani were great sons od the soil. Lest we forget. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
MorenaWaPolelo
mbondo
@Sinudeity
Whether you like it or not , apartheid will be blamed forever till kingdom comes. You booers will never get away with this . Even this day Jews are still blaming Germans for their suffering, why should n't we blacks? African Americans like Louis Farrakhan and others are still blaming slavery. Let me tell you booer boy , the Jews are still sending their kids to all former camps in Poland to learn their history of their fore-fathers of what happened to them during world war 2. You want us to forget and forgive damn you boy expect to be k illed.
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Sep 12, 2012
PAPARAZ
music or no music, you have an inherent right to say what you like Dana. Those who are against you are also allowed to say what they like. the Batho Pele principles applies in that regard. been a musician does not mean that you must be myopic. you have a freedom of expression as emphatically stated in the Act 108 of 1996 ( constitution).
I go with your word. Julias is one of the revolutionaries voicing the concerns of the poor. the million dollar question is where do politicians get the money to survive. it is not Julias Malema who benifited from the structure of the ANC only, think about the big headed so called president who want to turn Nkandla Village into a New York City while the masses are suffering. Aag man??? Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
JazzMandaba
I am glad Simphiwe that you admire and respect Steve Biko.Yes you are right Biko fought for what he believed on and did so with resect for others. But I think you seem to be loosing it when you start comparing him with Julius Malema. Number one Julius is just a loose canon who is being manipulated by certain individuals for their own benefits and Biko would not have been used.Please my sister dont make me to loose respect for you. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
jnrb
Dana, if government can't even put text books in schools in Limpopo how will it alleviate poverty? Your answer will be "take from the haves and give it to the have nots". Investors will not invest in an economy that doesn't safeguard ownership of assets. You will see companies like Coca Cola, MTN etc pull out of SA quickly and they will rather invest offshore where their investments are safe. That will destroy millions of jobs and then POVERTY will be on a scale like you have never seen. (By the way I think you are just trying to be controversial to draw attention.) Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Polelopoint taken,
but see what is happening with the Jews they are not reproducing themselves or rather the same generation that let Hitler mutate them, instead they educate themselves to consciountise the current generation that they must build a strong foundation in case the next Hitler comes they are ready to attack, instead with my Fellow black ppl, were we find someone who grew up in a shack will produce another offspring that will raise his/her kids again in a shack and the cycle continues................
From yours sincerely greatest scholar in the making
Zuma is even criticised by kids, thats how useless he is, hope he nominate someone to take over and go to Nkandla and enjoy his pension! Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
truthhurt
MommaC
I have to wonder which Steve Biko Dana is talking about.
He would have been horrified by Malema and he couldn't stand the ANC. Not only that but (to my recollection) he didn't have anything to do with the Freedom Charter.
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Girl, you sure know your story neh?
Maybe you should have your own political party, you can call it T.R.C (Truth and Reconciliation Congress) What do you think? Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
THEmadame2B-BBEE
and see the thing with poverty is difficult to define, what will relief people from poverty in Limpopo can be different from someone in GP, in depends on the necessity, let’s go to Limpopo, where there are few shacks people have land to build houses and have title deeds, but as for others who stay in shack is because they do not have the land as their so the level of poverty differs, Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Pitso.MCCMA.SAFA
When politic is entertained by musicians someone will be fired from president seat. Zahara we also need your imputs for address the apperent crisis of political leadership. If you are in DA side please come out clear. I cant wait to smash your album I bought. We need musicians who know when to say enough is enough Zuma Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@Dana, Biko and Malema in one sentence that is BAAADDDDDDDDDD
The teachings of Biko were for Blacks to be proud of who they are and he also was not anti white.
Zahara it is not enough to say Mthwalo wami uya ndisinda. We dont want codes here. Say it clear Zuma uya ndisinda. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Borokzin
"Malema is making the right noises that relate to one aspect of Biko's philosophy - wealth redistribution.
He accumulated a lot of money for himself and shares that with no one except with his Granny in Seshego. He is dead silent regarding the critical situation of Stationery and Textbooks in Limpopo yet he "passionately" talks about issues in the mines. He demolished his R3m house in Sandton nogal in order to built another one. He drives around in a Land Rover Sport worth R1,2m. Simphiwe give us proof where Malema shared or distributed wealth - The Right Noises bear no testimony to any Deed and will to address the poverty we all witness. Have You ever shared anything with those in need or are you just talking in order to get attention. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
mesip
Well said Ms Dana, well said. Biko was too ahead in his thinking. Our ordinary citizens & the leaders in government are still finding it hard to grasp what Biko was promoting. If they did, the government, instead of dishing out grants left, right & centre, would implement infrastructures that enable realization of talents that our citizens are so abundantly blessed with. I HATE THESE GRANTS WITH ALL MY HEART as they have reduced our people into IMBECILES. How is the future generation going to man the New Growth Path if quality education is not made a priority in this country??? Remember getting a 30% means you have passed the said subject!!!! WHAT UTTER RUBBISH Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
ThirdEye
It a pitty that she now understand Malema, why she was silent all along? Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
|Sinudeity|
Of course Julius is in favour of wealth distribution. He wants to take from the rich, and keep for himself. So far with the millions of rands that he's 'redistributed' from the province of Limpopo, he has built the poor folks a church... Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Moffdat
If Biko was alive now the press would be protraying him as another 'phat cat' and you people would be eating it up. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
LePaula
Well said sister, Biko will be disgusted if he could wake and see the kind of leaders we have.
As if Limpopo text book saga was enough, there come Marikana, blacks mowed down by their own, just because they want to earn a living, not to own mines. Unemployment is too high, education is in tarters, yet you have only a bunch of the haves at the expence of have nots
Its a tragedy, but Biko was not like Malema, though he echoes some Biko views.
Thanks Sister soldier on, what you said makes sense to a lot of us, especially conscious ones, pity we still have lots of white brainwashed blacks in RSA Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
MmaSeshego
Why is she still given the platform to speak about the political scene? Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
ntiki
Gwede is going to tell the nation not to buy your music whatch your tone girl. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Kgaitsedi-ya-Genaro
She is relating to Steve Biko no wonder she's campaigning so hard for her uncle. Sistas pls proceed with your singing career and leave politics to experts. For record do something about your looks coz you really look like my great grandma if not my granny. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Skopokopo
My mom loves her mina i dont. She loves a track callled Zandisile, i know why!! Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Moffdat
THEmadame2B-BBEE
ah Moffo point taken my genius, my all, my one and only, my skat, my only choclate d!ck, that’s the reason y I admire you your sense of thinking
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Making be blush is not a good look on this copper coloured brother. Now i look like turkish delight! Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
MissObsever
Oh my goodness; there goes this hyporcrite again. I know that none of us is perfect by this lady has a tendency of making noise about social ills that take place in our country but she leads an unethical and immoral life herself. What happened to the marriage that tried to wreck right after you had condemned Zille on Twitter. Remove the plank in your own eye mama. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Man-of-the-match-10111
word, Siphiwe Dana is not a wanna be, the truth hurts and more ppl will get hurt in the coming years. Economic freedom is the mandate, we're not going to sit back and let rich get richer and justify it by saying South Africa will go down like Zimbabwe, the majority need to take the bull by its horns - like we toppled apartheid we can do it with the mines. the thing is the rich are afraid that they will be losing their big fat salaries. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Siphe15
Ooh no I cannot believe you can compare Biko with Malema. Malema is nothing at all compared to comrade Biko please and please Dana get your facts straight. Malema is a liar he just know how to push the right buttons to be noticed(political gain) by those who know nothing what ANC has fought for. Phansi ngoMalema pathetic liar! Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Honeybadger
another cause of poverty is SA is irresponsible breeding which you seem to be practicing very well. I remain a fan of your music though just dont like how you carry your self Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Jozi40
State of emergency nyani i see another Tunisia revolt u Vavi is correct Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Honeybadger
Jozi40
State of emergency nyani i see another Tunisia revolt u Vavi is correct
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that is exactly what this country and some of its neighbours need Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
mhlupheki
Steve Biko and freedom charter. does it make sense sisi, please check your facts. anyone who wants to play goes to the poor, this shows they are more vulnerable Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
MGEEZ
According to Dana, expelled ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema was one of the few politicians who represented what Biko stood for.
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I respectfully disagree with Simphiwe Dana, Malema represents nothing but his belly!!! He needs the masses because they are the ticket to the power he so desires!!! This country is better off without Malema. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
9janavy
I was starting to agree with her until she mentioned "Welfare Grant" and "Malema". Sorry sisi if you are promoting a welfare state and insinuating that Malema means well then you better change the type of pot you are smoking because it is really fxcking up your brain.You should Google Idi Admin before you start praising Malema! Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
MGEEZ
@mhlupheki
Steve Biko and freedom charter. does it make sense sisi, please check your facts.
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Indeed Biko knows nothing about the Freedom Charter!!! So if Dana said this statement then effectively she does not know what she is talking about!!! Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Mkabayi-kaJama
mbondo
@Sinudeity
Whether you like it or not , apartheid will be blamed forever till kingdom comes. You booers will never get away with this . Even this day Jews are still blaming Germans for their suffering, why should n't we blacks? African Americans like Louis Farrakhan and others are still blaming slavery. Let me tell you booer boy , the Jews are still sending their kids to all former camps in Poland to learn their history of their fore-fathers of what happened to them during world war 2. You want us to forget and forgive damn you boy expect to be k illed.
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Well said @mbondo. White people are trying to cover up aparteid and its sins. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
paracute
Eish! yena o bolela theresho, e fela melomo ya gagwe eka fetsa Tosi ya zum buck Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
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Youthof76
Hayi bo! Steve Biko has nothing to do with the Freedom Charter. In fact, Steve Biko is the proponent of aBlack Consciousness Movement which is an ideology of its own which runs parallel to the Charterists ideology. The Chaterists ideology is founded on basis the Freedom Charter.
Poverty levels may be high, I do not deny that but we need to be properly informed on the ideologies of our politics Dana and all the young aspirant politicians. You do not pluck a name and associate with the political ideology as you wish.
Political education will help those who are ready to be educated. For instance, Malema was given numerous advices by the ANC to receive political education. He ignored all the good advices because he thinks he comes from heaven and wants to erase history so that he makes his own. Shame!
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Aha...Someone with some sense, experience and first hand knowledge of the past. What does Dana know of such things? Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
|Sinudeity|
mbondo - The difference is, the Jews remember the tragedies of the holocaust. They dont blame everything for it though. When was the last time you heard a Jewish dude blame the Germans for anything?
Here, dude fails his matric exam, he blames apartheid. And on and on the story goes. And nobody takes responsibility, because you can just blame apartheid.
The Afrik@ners were also put into concentration camps, did you know this? When was the last time you heard an Afrikaans dude blame the British? Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
|Sinudeity|
mbondo - 28,000 Afrikaans women and children DIED in British concentration camps. FOUR TIMES more people than what were killed in 40 years of apartheid. Spot the difference though, the whiners are struggling and poor, and those that just put their nose down and plough, control the country. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
M'Lungu
Eish! Lungu this is not nice! Most people in da Banana Republic knows f@kol about politics, least of all the Limpopo Woodworking Loafer - who is enjoying the political limelight and in the process creating even more chaos in the mining world - he is doing bugger-all for redutribution of wealth - just feeding his own funny fat body whilst others starve - Steve Biko is probably the second greatest man this counrty has seen after Madiba - guys let's not even try to discredit this great man! Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Mgaraji
@ Makhosini0408: Robert Sobukwe, Steve Biko and Chris Hani were great sons od the soil. Lest we forget.
I am noting that all the great leaders mentioned are Xhosa you & Dana are referring to in your article, tendency among Xhosa analysts & academia. You hardly hear Xhosa speaking person praising Moroka, Makgatho, Mahabane, Gumede as great leaders and yet Zuma is accused of tribalism. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Mndende
There is nothing like equal sharing of wealth! Go to Tanzania to see for yourselves how messed up it is there. 2 women are born on the same day one gives birth to 10 children and is unemployed and the other choosed education and gets a good job how do you force these people to be equal? Economics doesnot lie when it says the resources are limited and the wants are not! Simphiwe you are lost. The Freedom Charter is only good on paper but unrealistic!!!! Thanks Lungu she should stick to music!!! Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
lebseb
you can say whatever u like or google abt yr culture but the fact remains, APARTHEID will always be blamed Report Abuse
lebseb - Yeah, we know. Incompetent people will always try and blame someone else for their own incompetence. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
|Sinudeity|
LostGuy - What are you talking about? More white people have been killed by black people than apartheid could in 40 years. More wealth has been stolen by the ANC corrupt people than the apartheid government ever could. So why are you still poor? Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
16-12-1838
@ |Sinudeity|
Lol - He is still poor because it is his choice to remain so...vote anc, vote for poverty! Eish this democracy is a wonderful thing hey Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Makhosini0408
Mgaraji
@ Makhosini0408: Robert Sobukwe, Steve Biko and Chris Hani were great sons od the soil. Lest we forget.
I am noting that all the great leaders mentioned are Xhosa you & Dana are referring to in your article, tendency among Xhosa analysts & academia. You hardly hear Xhosa speaking person praising Moroka, Makgatho, Mahabane, Gumede as great leaders and yet Zuma is accused of tribalism.
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I am lost for words, for once. How did you arrive by the way to the conclusion that I am Xhosa and why is that an issue in the first place in 2012? I am a proud South African, period. Please do not play the tribalism card in my face. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
lebseb
Sin
apartheid mind as always, u think all yr comments are better than others, u can respond to all our comments but let me tell u something, ur are no better jy praat kak each and everytime Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
|Sinudeity|
lebseb - My "white superiority" again? The problem is, you just dont want to hear the truth. You want to hear how incompetence and corruption is not your fault. Its the white mans fault that textbooks never got delivered to Limpopo etc.
Truth is, with a mindset like that, you will always be inferior. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
paracute
will you guys ever remember Terror Lekota?
1. Premier of Free State = failed
2. Minister of Deffence = failed
3. ANC National Chairperson = failed
So many portfolios given to the guy and failed, why? because he can't COPE with anything but just making noise at the parliament. Lo mdal' u n' uMsindo man
Magents! Let us remember the likes of Comrade Alfred Nzo the first minister of International Relations the poor guy is never remembered at all. Why? Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Honeybadger
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Hey Sin whats with the kappies? Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
|Sinudeity|
Honeybadger - Its the high wall that I built to protect myself from the strikers :P Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Phuphethakatha
Simphiwe Dana forgets that Steve Biko was not the only leader in BCM. Dana must observe what the likes of Barney Pityana and Mamphele Ramphele are doing and she'll have a clue what Steve Biko would be doing. I respect Dana as a musician and not as anything else! Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Phuphethakatha
@ancnduntsu
How many Freedom Charters do we have? I thought it belonged to the multiple fractured(chaotic) anc. This nonsense of lamenting abt dead individuals is nauseating. May be the same Biko(she is lamenting abt) could have been corrupt today .Who knows.
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Thank you! You are spot on!!! Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
cornelius
Biko's dream of restoring the pride of bl.ack people should in my opinion be the dream that drives us all, even the wh.ites, but the question that is not often asked is, what is meant by " black pride" ? I believe that Biko meant personal pride, self esteem of black people in general, to get rid of feelings of inferiority .Surely no - one can be proud if you have corrupt and inefficient leaders. So the first step to black pride must surely to start electing people on the basis that they are honourable, intelligent and efficient.
It is obvious that the restoration of black pride requires alleviatioon of poverty. But how is this to be achieved ? Is there pride to be had in following a self absorbed, uncouth, dishonest, populist like Julius Malema who is misleading people with promises of a quick fix nationalisation solution, who runs around whipping up racial tension, or should the pride come from education, hard work, application, and the use of AA policies to expedite the process ? Wealth must be created, and it can only be done by growth friendly economic policies. Before the cake can be cut equitably, someone must be enable to bake the cake. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Dzel
"Malema is making the right noises that relate to one aspect of Biko's philosophy - wealth redistribution.
"But he is no Biko”
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As much as you are no politician Ms Dana.
Whilst I have no doubt her heart is in the right place Simphiwe tends to be a hard-line, extreme left pseudo politician; extreme left politics are littered with racial segregation and identify whites as the enemy of the people, the politics are borderline and based on division rather than unity. The philosophies are dangerous and out of place in a country with as much diversity as ours.
She too misunderstands what Biko stood for, what black consciousness is about. BCM is about black people being self-reliant and understanding that your blackness is not a handicap. Biko teaches that we as black people can be as successful and as prosperous as Indians are, as whites are. His politics need to be understood in the context he articulated his views. This was a time pre-1976 when apartheid was entrenched even in schools were white kids were taught blacks were inferior our hair and features used as evidence to support this. Biko’s message was we are as good and can be as successful given an opportunity.
Biko never taught hate or racial division, to say Malema is the best thing to Biko is indicative of someone who misses the point completely and projects their own thinking and using BCM tenants to support their views. We need to create a country where we live side-by-side in harmony but requires sacrifice from all of us.
@Mgaraji
@ Makhosini0408: Robert Sobukwe, Steve Biko and Chris Hani were great sons od the soil. Lest we forget.
I am noting that all the great leaders mentioned are Xhosa you & Dana are referring to in your article, tendency among Xhosa analysts & academia. You hardly hear Xhosa speaking person praising Moroka, Makgatho, Mahabane, Gumede as great leaders and yet Zuma is accused of tribalism.
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So who do non-Xhosa speaking analysts, academia etc mention? Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Dzel
Papage,
I think there is a need to revive Black Conscious Movement, ANC has lost direction
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BCM is a dangerous ideology in the hands of those who don’t understand it as it is easy to twist it around and use it as an instrument for perpetuating hate. BCM is about self-improvement, not oppression of others. It is doing and being the best you can be because you are not limited in any way. The opposite of BCM is the bell-curve theory that says blacks are inherently inferior and that is what BCM seeks to address.
Dana is coming with her Std 2 politics and misses the point completely, reading her political views it became obvious what her interpretation of BCM is though one could see what influenced her beliefs.
BTW BCM has never been an ANC ideology; AZAPO was and still is the proponent of BCM.
Simphiwe you are trying to make a point but you fail to admit that we cant keep on blaming apartheid. We all know that our black leaders are corrupt and they are crippling our economy by enriching themselves and their friends, so the minority is still ruling the majority but this time the rich minority are black people. Julius is also one of them, i will never support any leader that preaches violence because at the end of the day it is not him that goes to war but our own kids. so let us stop using other people for our own gains. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
MOKOPANEDUDE
Biko's political ideology could have being changed like all politician who saw money and forgot where they come from,money is money these why in America their governor most are rich,they avoid poor who gonna fill their pocket with money b4 developing their region,Simphiwe do what u do best,just sing my sister comparing Malema and Steve Biko insult Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Right-Back-Khumalo
Aparteid deserves all the blame it can get. It did enough demage to us... Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Risen4romthedead
"I'm sure there are many Bikos in South Africa today. They do things quietly, and some should really stand up and lead us."
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What has she done in her community?change begins with you!
Stop smoking too much zol.... Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Cheif
I gree with you Dana, witht he exception of the Malemas. To the so called idiologist, you all are talkin BS. A hungry mother and a child in a village, a menstanding on the streets begging for food, doesnt give s***t about the idiology. People need jobs and the likes of zuma and the zwelithini's do give a damn about evryone else.
Politica education is BS, we dont need polical education to realise that this peoor is geting poorer.
Zuma believes that service delivery is exception in SA. That tell you that there is something wrong. He is oblivious of reality Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
mqondiso
is she aware that the Biko did not support woman to wear make-up nad maskaras, like she did Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
|Sinudeity|
Cheif - Nor do you need an education to fix the poverty. Because you can simply blame it on the poor, continue business and usual, and continue not giving a damn about the poor. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
cornelius
@Dzel - I know.
The problem is that the populist version of BC is so much easier to sell. There is hard work for people like you and other bl.ack intellectuals. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Cl!ck-
Dana looks high on 95 Unleaded petrol.. She failed a drug test.. What does she know about politics??
This Dana woman must be planting her own weed that she's keeps smoking. Eastern Cape police must check her garden in the countryside. She once said "isiZulu must be the only language of communication throughout Southern Africa" and I was dumbfounded. She's always high, for free! Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
The_Only_1
It is very important that Simphiwe Dana must go back to school and understand the social behavior and life in general. I aknowledge her freedom of expression; however there are specific exclusions that form 'party' to those rights. Firstly, Steve Biko never had a Charter as he spent his entire life working for the ANC and fighting for freedom up until he was framed and killed by apartheid government; including those medical doctors who were used as Agents. Even the views that were expressed by utata Mandela are not his views; rather or perhaps were the views of the ANC.If the ANC as a 'Company' later decided to change the freedom charter as the Policy through Policy Positions, then that will mean the new charter superceides the old charter and the old one becomes null and void. According to my knowledge the charter has been practised as was mooted in 1942. Its Only former President of the youth league; Julius Malema " herein after referred to as My President"who has been proposing changes known as - " Econonomic Freedom in our lifetime'; My President is The_Only_1 who came up with proposals after the charter was mooted in 1942 and also challenged the issues of land restitution. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
Phathuza
Malema nad Mbalula are not like Biko they want to control the ANC
SIMPHIWE, u can not wait for another Steve Biko to lead you, take a stand and show them what leadership is. bring the style and stop hoping for someone to come and lead you
I can see you and Malema see eye to eye, is he your friend
Dana, FINALLY!! you took away your focus from the president's zoei and are now begining to talk about stuff that real speak to the core of our nation.
now that you have a bit of focus and some concentration, please know that, the ONLY way proven the world for citizens to uplift themselves from poverty is .....wait for it....EDUCATION without Biko's freedom charter as you now call it, will NEVER materialise, now can you please ask both blade and angie why is SA's education going to the dogs and what are they doing to remedy this horrid situation.
On a personal note, kindly refrain from using dark colours for your smokey eyes make-up, it doesn't suit you it makes you look like you have not had a sleep for months. Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
skwamasamabele
Well, Bantubonke Biko will still be struggling today, for Black Emancipation. Even the press were all for Black Conciousness Movement (and attended the Black People's Convention) and knew that Bantubonke had a realistic vision. I mean, you take Malcom X and mix him with Hussein Obama, you end up with Bantubonke. A true 'Motherland African' Son Report Abuse
Sep 12, 2012
seutullamakunutu
What ?!!!!!!
She smokes nyaope this one Report Abuse
Sep 13, 2012
MommaC
The_Only_1
LOL
She isn't the only one. Your grasp of history is just awful.
Steve Biko was NEVER a member of the ANC. In fact, it has always been believed that the government got hold of him because they were tipped off by the ANC as to his whereabouts. Why do you think we hear so little about the great Biko? It is because the ANC hated him. Report Abuse
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|Sinudeity|
Ah, if not blaming apartheid, it will be blaming the distribution of wealth. And then when someone praises Julius, who deprived hundreds of millions of rands from the poor, then you know the commentator doesnt know what she is talking about.Report Abuse
truthhurt
I hope your statement is genuine and its not just a stunt to increase sales, coz i hear your album is not doing that well!Report Abuse
Ndele01
This is what happens when you put your friends in charge rather than persons who have the experience - from the President right down to the lowest levels of Government. Dancing with a gun doesn't mean you can lead a country. The gravy train is over. We can only blame ourselves.We chose through our freedom and democracy to put the ruling party in charge. We chose Presidents with no, or low levels of knowledge and experience to improve the peoples lives.
Live with it or change your vote - it might however, be too late. The people want freedom but take no responsibility. Some are even so cowardly that they don't even vote ! (We choose Violence before the Vote).
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Youthof76
Hayi bo! Steve Biko has nothing to do with the Freedom Charter. In fact, Steve Biko is the proponent of aBlack Consciousness Movement which is an ideology of its own which runs parallel to the Charterists ideology. The Chaterists ideology is founded on basis the Freedom Charter.Poverty levels may be high, I do not deny that but we need to be properly informed on the ideologies of our politics Dana and all the young aspirant politicians. You do not pluck a name and associate with the political ideology as you wish.
Political education will help those who are ready to be educated. For instance, Malema was given numerous advices by the ANC to receive political education. He ignored all the good advices because he thinks he comes from heaven and wants to erase history so that he makes his own. Shame!
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PhantomLimb
I think Simphiwe Dana should consider only singing from now on. Though I acknowledge the need for quality education I do not support the notion of a welfare country where everyone is too lazy to get off they backsides and do something with their lives because they are waiting on government grants. It will take generations upon generations of education and hard work to truly free us black people from the grip of poverty, not 18 years. The worst thing we can do for our nation is to panic and start supporting populist retards like Malema who have about as much interest in helping the poor as the do in washing their own laundry. Let's get the political situation right (stop voting for ANC) then address our challenges by priority and I tell you in 30 years we will all see a very significant improvement in the quality of life of regular South Africans.Report Abuse
Papage
I think there is a need to revive Black Conscious Movement, ANC has lost direction. We need a better party to lead SA. I wish Zuma and his Ministers can listen to Simphiwe Dana. ANC need to stop and re focus. We can't affort to have individuals tearing the Country apart. What Juju and his followers are doing is not right for the Country, I see people fighting for things that could be solved in a correct manner, right now I hear he will be addressing Soldiers, what is that? It shows the revolution is just around the corner, before we know it people will be killing each other. Please ANC show us the way.Report Abuse
Kwetja1206
lets commomorate and fight for economic freedom in our lifetime,and live the dream of Steve Biko...VivaReport Abuse
Shredder
i love you SimphiweReport Abuse
MommaC
I have to wonder which Steve Biko Dana is talking about.He would have been horrified by Malema and he couldn't stand the ANC. Not only that but (to my recollection) he didn't have anything to do with the Freedom Charter.
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Lungu
@Dana is your music career fading or what? Please leave politics to ppl who knows about them and stick to your music creativity not public stunts.Report Abuse
Shredder
@Papage - I think there is a need to revive Black Conscious Movement, ANC has lost direction.========================================================================
Indeed there is a need to revive that movement, not only the ANC, but most of black people, especially the younger ones have lost the direction.
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candilious
Next thing you know Dana & Malema will be in front page supporting sharing wealth.Yet in another breathe she says he is no Biko some people nehReport Abuse
Letanta
"It becomes more necessary to see the truth as it is if you realize that the only vehicle for change are these people who have lost their personality" Steve Biko. You spotted the truth and therefor Truth Hurts......Report Abuse
ancnduntsu
How many Freedom Charters do we have? I thought it belonged to the multiple fractured(chaotic) anc. This nonsense of lamenting abt dead individuals is nauseating. May be the same Biko(she is lamenting abt) could have been corrupt today .Who knows.Report Abuse
Mmaditopo
If Steve Biko is the same guy I have read about over the years, he is turning in his grave! I do not think that the "revolution" he and his comrades were fighting for is the same as the one which is happening in this country of ours..Report Abuse
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|Sinudeity|
Anyways, change starts with you Dana. Start sharing your wealth with the poor.Report Abuse
ThegirlNzima
So now everyone is going to sound as if they care about poor people.!If you do share your salaries with the poor. siyekeni tu!. you know nothing just shut upReport Abuse
kolobe
there is no difference between biko, mandela and malema. even back then there were black cowards who didnt want to hear mandelas name like to we have some blacks hating malema. malema is powerful and not just sitting on his a$$, if you have an issue with him start your own organisationReport Abuse
madimetsha
Steve Biko believed in mental decolonisation of Blacks and thats what he stood for.....blacks had to believe in our own, had to respect each other, currently we only respect the white man hence he still controlling us...the chains and colonisation was abolished, the mental one remains and its the saddest one...Example ,Blacks go to indian/white Drs, but he other races will never go to a black Dr.....its disgusting for Dana to use his name for her brand value increase........,.please focus on music and dont talk about what you dont know........Report Abuse
madimetsha
Malema wants mines to be owned by goverment, so he can have access to the cash..........Report Abuse
MorenaWaPolelo
I see Dana is actualy applying to perfom at Majunju's mine visits, what does she know about Biko's legacy or ideology eish fooolsReport Abuse
Chichi7
Wealth redistribution? To who? People that have working hard for it or the majority that lie on their backs and find nothing but blame to others and not themselves.People need to stop this business of stretching a hand to receive and learn to toil for every penny they earn.
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LostGuy
Sinudeity|Anyways, change starts with you Dana. Start sharing your wealth with the poor
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anything to protect the apartheid legacy DAna nevert accumulated unfairly dude, never k..ll blaks to get where she is now which we can say less about your race people.
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siya0505
Who does she think she is? go back and sleep with married men....Report Abuse
Ment'o
Simphiwe, true african princess, few individuals use their talent to promote whats good, even if you dont sell sweety history will tell of your true african mind, free from western thoughts. Biko's legacy is not the only on that is being failed but all those who died for liberation of africa, not only socially but economically. Nationalisation is what the haven did from creation.Report Abuse
imbabazane
MommaCI have to wonder which Steve Biko Dana is talking about.
He would have been horrified by Malema and he couldn't stand the ANC. Not only that but (to my recollection) he didn't have anything to do with the Freedom Charter.
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Spot on Momma
With all due respects to my favorite musician, but she is talking Bolockss...
Biko was about self determination and and self love....not Free this and free that.
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Makhosini0408
Morning AllIgnorance is bliss, Ms Dana. Thank you for trying though.
The Apartheid regime robbed us great thinkers and philosophers. That is why we have clowns in our polotical arena as it is referred to, today.
Robert Sobukwe, Steve Biko and Chris Hani were great sons od the soil. Lest we forget.
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mbondo@Sinudeity
Whether you like it or not , apartheid will be blamed forever till kingdom comes. You booers will never get away with this . Even this day Jews are still blaming Germans for their suffering, why should n't we blacks? African Americans like Louis Farrakhan and others are still blaming slavery. Let me tell you booer boy , the Jews are still sending their kids to all former camps in Poland to learn their history of their fore-fathers of what happened to them during world war 2. You want us to forget and forgive damn you boy expect to be k illed.
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PAPARAZ
music or no music, you have an inherent right to say what you like Dana. Those who are against you are also allowed to say what they like. the Batho Pele principles applies in that regard. been a musician does not mean that you must be myopic. you have a freedom of expression as emphatically stated in the Act 108 of 1996 ( constitution).I go with your word. Julias is one of the revolutionaries voicing the concerns of the poor. the million dollar question is where do politicians get the money to survive. it is not Julias Malema who benifited from the structure of the ANC only, think about the big headed so called president who want to turn Nkandla Village into a New York City while the masses are suffering. Aag man???
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JazzMandaba
I am glad Simphiwe that you admire and respect Steve Biko.Yes you are right Biko fought for what he believed on and did so with resect for others. But I think you seem to be loosing it when you start comparing him with Julius Malema. Number one Julius is just a loose canon who is being manipulated by certain individuals for their own benefits and Biko would not have been used.Please my sister dont make me to loose respect for you.Report Abuse
jnrb
Dana, if government can't even put text books in schools in Limpopo how will it alleviate poverty? Your answer will be "take from the haves and give it to the have nots". Investors will not invest in an economy that doesn't safeguard ownership of assets. You will see companies like Coca Cola, MTN etc pull out of SA quickly and they will rather invest offshore where their investments are safe. That will destroy millions of jobs and then POVERTY will be on a scale like you have never seen. (By the way I think you are just trying to be controversial to draw attention.)Report Abuse
THEmadame2B-BBEE
@Polelopoint taken,but see what is happening with the Jews they are not reproducing themselves or rather the same generation that let Hitler mutate them, instead they educate themselves to consciountise the current generation that they must build a strong foundation in case the next Hitler comes they are ready to attack, instead with my Fellow black ppl, were we find someone who grew up in a shack will produce another offspring that will raise his/her kids again in a shack and the cycle continues................
From yours sincerely greatest scholar in the making
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swona
Zuma is even criticised by kids, thats how useless he is, hope he nominate someone to take over and go to Nkandla and enjoy his pension!Report Abuse
truthhurt
MommaCI have to wonder which Steve Biko Dana is talking about.
He would have been horrified by Malema and he couldn't stand the ANC. Not only that but (to my recollection) he didn't have anything to do with the Freedom Charter.
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Girl, you sure know your story neh?
Maybe you should have your own political party, you can call it T.R.C (Truth and Reconciliation Congress) What do you think?
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THEmadame2B-BBEE
and see the thing with poverty is difficult to define, what will relief people from poverty in Limpopo can be different from someone in GP, in depends on the necessity, let’s go to Limpopo, where there are few shacks people have land to build houses and have title deeds, but as for others who stay in shack is because they do not have the land as their so the level of poverty differs,Report Abuse
Pitso.MCCMA.SAFA
When politic is entertained by musicians someone will be fired from president seat. Zahara we also need your imputs for address the apperent crisis of political leadership. If you are in DA side please come out clear. I cant wait to smash your album I bought. We need musicians who know when to say enough is enough ZumaReport Abuse
MsKinkyakaKamaSutra
@Dana, Biko and Malema in one sentence that is BAAADDDDDDDDDDThe teachings of Biko were for Blacks to be proud of who they are and he also was not anti white.
BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL...........
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Pitso.MCCMA.SAFA
Zahara it is not enough to say Mthwalo wami uya ndisinda. We dont want codes here. Say it clear Zuma uya ndisinda.Report Abuse
Borokzin
"Malema is making the right noises that relate to one aspect of Biko's philosophy - wealth redistribution.He accumulated a lot of money for himself and shares that with no one except with his Granny in Seshego. He is dead silent regarding the critical situation of Stationery and Textbooks in Limpopo yet he "passionately" talks about issues in the mines. He demolished his R3m house in Sandton nogal in order to built another one. He drives around in a Land Rover Sport worth R1,2m. Simphiwe give us proof where Malema shared or distributed wealth - The Right Noises bear no testimony to any Deed and will to address the poverty we all witness. Have You ever shared anything with those in need or are you just talking in order to get attention.
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mesip
Well said Ms Dana, well said. Biko was too ahead in his thinking. Our ordinary citizens & the leaders in government are still finding it hard to grasp what Biko was promoting. If they did, the government, instead of dishing out grants left, right & centre, would implement infrastructures that enable realization of talents that our citizens are so abundantly blessed with. I HATE THESE GRANTS WITH ALL MY HEART as they have reduced our people into IMBECILES. How is the future generation going to man the New Growth Path if quality education is not made a priority in this country??? Remember getting a 30% means you have passed the said subject!!!! WHAT UTTER RUBBISHReport Abuse
ThirdEye
It a pitty that she now understand Malema, why she was silent all along?Report Abuse
|Sinudeity|
Of course Julius is in favour of wealth distribution. He wants to take from the rich, and keep for himself. So far with the millions of rands that he's 'redistributed' from the province of Limpopo, he has built the poor folks a church...Report Abuse
Moffdat
If Biko was alive now the press would be protraying him as another 'phat cat' and you people would be eating it up.Report Abuse
LePaula
Well said sister, Biko will be disgusted if he could wake and see the kind of leaders we have.As if Limpopo text book saga was enough, there come Marikana, blacks mowed down by their own, just because they want to earn a living, not to own mines. Unemployment is too high, education is in tarters, yet you have only a bunch of the haves at the expence of have nots
Its a tragedy, but Biko was not like Malema, though he echoes some Biko views.
Thanks Sister soldier on, what you said makes sense to a lot of us, especially conscious ones, pity we still have lots of white brainwashed blacks in RSA
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MmaSeshego
Why is she still given the platform to speak about the political scene?Report Abuse
ntiki
Gwede is going to tell the nation not to buy your music whatch your tone girl.Report Abuse
Kgaitsedi-ya-Genaro
She is relating to Steve Biko no wonder she's campaigning so hard for her uncle. Sistas pls proceed with your singing career and leave politics to experts. For record do something about your looks coz you really look like my great grandma if not my granny.Report Abuse
Skopokopo
My mom loves her mina i dont. She loves a track callled Zandisile, i know why!!Report Abuse
Moffdat
THEmadame2B-BBEEah Moffo point taken my genius, my all, my one and only, my skat, my only choclate d!ck, that’s the reason y I admire you your sense of thinking
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Making be blush is not a good look on this copper coloured brother. Now i look like turkish delight!
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MissObsever
Oh my goodness; there goes this hyporcrite again. I know that none of us is perfect by this lady has a tendency of making noise about social ills that take place in our country but she leads an unethical and immoral life herself. What happened to the marriage that tried to wreck right after you had condemned Zille on Twitter. Remove the plank in your own eye mama.Report Abuse
Man-of-the-match-10111
word, Siphiwe Dana is not a wanna be, the truth hurts and more ppl will get hurt in the coming years. Economic freedom is the mandate, we're not going to sit back and let rich get richer and justify it by saying South Africa will go down like Zimbabwe, the majority need to take the bull by its horns - like we toppled apartheid we can do it with the mines. the thing is the rich are afraid that they will be losing their big fat salaries.Report Abuse
Siphe15
Ooh no I cannot believe you can compare Biko with Malema. Malema is nothing at all compared to comrade Biko please and please Dana get your facts straight. Malema is a liar he just know how to push the right buttons to be noticed(political gain) by those who know nothing what ANC has fought for. Phansi ngoMalema pathetic liar!Report Abuse
Honeybadger
another cause of poverty is SA is irresponsible breeding which you seem to be practicing very well. I remain a fan of your music though just dont like how you carry your selfReport Abuse
Jozi40
State of emergency nyani i see another Tunisia revolt u Vavi is correctReport Abuse
Honeybadger
Jozi40State of emergency nyani i see another Tunisia revolt u Vavi is correct
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that is exactly what this country and some of its neighbours need
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mhlupheki
Steve Biko and freedom charter. does it make sense sisi, please check your facts. anyone who wants to play goes to the poor, this shows they are more vulnerableReport Abuse
MGEEZ
According to Dana, expelled ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema was one of the few politicians who represented what Biko stood for.================================================================================
I respectfully disagree with Simphiwe Dana, Malema represents nothing but his belly!!! He needs the masses because they are the ticket to the power he so desires!!! This country is better off without Malema.
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9janavy
I was starting to agree with her until she mentioned "Welfare Grant" and "Malema". Sorry sisi if you are promoting a welfare state and insinuating that Malema means well then you better change the type of pot you are smoking because it is really fxcking up your brain.You should Google Idi Admin before you start praising Malema!Report Abuse
MGEEZ
@mhluphekiSteve Biko and freedom charter. does it make sense sisi, please check your facts.
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Indeed Biko knows nothing about the Freedom Charter!!! So if Dana said this statement then effectively she does not know what she is talking about!!!
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mbondo@Sinudeity
Whether you like it or not , apartheid will be blamed forever till kingdom comes. You booers will never get away with this . Even this day Jews are still blaming Germans for their suffering, why should n't we blacks? African Americans like Louis Farrakhan and others are still blaming slavery. Let me tell you booer boy , the Jews are still sending their kids to all former camps in Poland to learn their history of their fore-fathers of what happened to them during world war 2. You want us to forget and forgive damn you boy expect to be k illed.
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Well said @mbondo. White people are trying to cover up aparteid and its sins.
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paracute
Eish! yena o bolela theresho, e fela melomo ya gagwe eka fetsa Tosi ya zum buckReport Abuse
16-12-1838
Youthof76Hayi bo! Steve Biko has nothing to do with the Freedom Charter. In fact, Steve Biko is the proponent of aBlack Consciousness Movement which is an ideology of its own which runs parallel to the Charterists ideology. The Chaterists ideology is founded on basis the Freedom Charter.
Poverty levels may be high, I do not deny that but we need to be properly informed on the ideologies of our politics Dana and all the young aspirant politicians. You do not pluck a name and associate with the political ideology as you wish.
Political education will help those who are ready to be educated. For instance, Malema was given numerous advices by the ANC to receive political education. He ignored all the good advices because he thinks he comes from heaven and wants to erase history so that he makes his own. Shame!
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Aha...Someone with some sense, experience and first hand knowledge of the past. What does Dana know of such things?
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|Sinudeity|
mbondo - The difference is, the Jews remember the tragedies of the holocaust. They dont blame everything for it though. When was the last time you heard a Jewish dude blame the Germans for anything?Here, dude fails his matric exam, he blames apartheid. And on and on the story goes. And nobody takes responsibility, because you can just blame apartheid.
The Afrik@ners were also put into concentration camps, did you know this? When was the last time you heard an Afrikaans dude blame the British?
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|Sinudeity|
mbondo - 28,000 Afrikaans women and children DIED in British concentration camps. FOUR TIMES more people than what were killed in 40 years of apartheid. Spot the difference though, the whiners are struggling and poor, and those that just put their nose down and plough, control the country.Report Abuse
M'Lungu
Eish! Lungu this is not nice! Most people in da Banana Republic knows f@kol about politics, least of all the Limpopo Woodworking Loafer - who is enjoying the political limelight and in the process creating even more chaos in the mining world - he is doing bugger-all for redutribution of wealth - just feeding his own funny fat body whilst others starve - Steve Biko is probably the second greatest man this counrty has seen after Madiba - guys let's not even try to discredit this great man!Report Abuse
Mgaraji
@ Makhosini0408: Robert Sobukwe, Steve Biko and Chris Hani were great sons od the soil. Lest we forget.
I am noting that all the great leaders mentioned are Xhosa you & Dana are referring to in your article, tendency among Xhosa analysts & academia. You hardly hear Xhosa speaking person praising Moroka, Makgatho, Mahabane, Gumede as great leaders and yet Zuma is accused of tribalism.
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Mndende
There is nothing like equal sharing of wealth! Go to Tanzania to see for yourselves how messed up it is there. 2 women are born on the same day one gives birth to 10 children and is unemployed and the other choosed education and gets a good job how do you force these people to be equal? Economics doesnot lie when it says the resources are limited and the wants are not! Simphiwe you are lost. The Freedom Charter is only good on paper but unrealistic!!!! Thanks Lungu she should stick to music!!!Report Abuse
lebseb
you can say whatever u like or google abt yr culture but the fact remains, APARTHEID will always be blamedReport Abuse
P4T
@ Sowetan why eat comments now? ungu John Voster turned JZ nawe?Report Abuse
|Sinudeity|
lebseb - Yeah, we know. Incompetent people will always try and blame someone else for their own incompetence.Report Abuse
|Sinudeity|
LostGuy - What are you talking about? More white people have been killed by black people than apartheid could in 40 years. More wealth has been stolen by the ANC corrupt people than the apartheid government ever could. So why are you still poor?Report Abuse
16-12-1838
@ |Sinudeity|Lol - He is still poor because it is his choice to remain so...vote anc, vote for poverty! Eish this democracy is a wonderful thing hey
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Makhosini0408
Mgaraji@ Makhosini0408: Robert Sobukwe, Steve Biko and Chris Hani were great sons od the soil. Lest we forget.
I am noting that all the great leaders mentioned are Xhosa you & Dana are referring to in your article, tendency among Xhosa analysts & academia. You hardly hear Xhosa speaking person praising Moroka, Makgatho, Mahabane, Gumede as great leaders and yet Zuma is accused of tribalism.
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I am lost for words, for once. How did you arrive by the way to the conclusion that I am Xhosa and why is that an issue in the first place in 2012? I am a proud South African, period. Please do not play the tribalism card in my face.
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lebseb
Sinapartheid mind as always, u think all yr comments are better than others, u can respond to all our comments but let me tell u something, ur are no better jy praat kak each and everytime
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|Sinudeity|
lebseb - My "white superiority" again? The problem is, you just dont want to hear the truth. You want to hear how incompetence and corruption is not your fault. Its the white mans fault that textbooks never got delivered to Limpopo etc.Truth is, with a mindset like that, you will always be inferior.
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paracute
will you guys ever remember Terror Lekota?1. Premier of Free State = failed
2. Minister of Deffence = failed
3. ANC National Chairperson = failed
So many portfolios given to the guy and failed, why? because he can't COPE with anything but just making noise at the parliament. Lo mdal' u n' uMsindo man
Magents! Let us remember the likes of Comrade Alfred Nzo the first minister of International Relations the poor guy is never remembered at all. Why?
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Honeybadger
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Hey Sin whats with the kappies?
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|Sinudeity|
Honeybadger - Its the high wall that I built to protect myself from the strikers :PReport Abuse
Phuphethakatha
Simphiwe Dana forgets that Steve Biko was not the only leader in BCM. Dana must observe what the likes of Barney Pityana and Mamphele Ramphele are doing and she'll have a clue what Steve Biko would be doing. I respect Dana as a musician and not as anything else!Report Abuse
Phuphethakatha
@ancnduntsuHow many Freedom Charters do we have? I thought it belonged to the multiple fractured(chaotic) anc. This nonsense of lamenting abt dead individuals is nauseating. May be the same Biko(she is lamenting abt) could have been corrupt today .Who knows.
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Thank you! You are spot on!!!
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cornelius
Biko's dream of restoring the pride of bl.ack people should in my opinion be the dream that drives us all, even the wh.ites, but the question that is not often asked is, what is meant by " black pride" ? I believe that Biko meant personal pride, self esteem of black people in general, to get rid of feelings of inferiority .Surely no - one can be proud if you have corrupt and inefficient leaders. So the first step to black pride must surely to start electing people on the basis that they are honourable, intelligent and efficient.It is obvious that the restoration of black pride requires alleviatioon of poverty. But how is this to be achieved ? Is there pride to be had in following a self absorbed, uncouth, dishonest, populist like Julius Malema who is misleading people with promises of a quick fix nationalisation solution, who runs around whipping up racial tension, or should the pride come from education, hard work, application, and the use of AA policies to expedite the process ? Wealth must be created, and it can only be done by growth friendly economic policies. Before the cake can be cut equitably, someone must be enable to bake the cake.
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Dzel
"Malema is making the right noises that relate to one aspect of Biko's philosophy - wealth redistribution."But he is no Biko”
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As much as you are no politician Ms Dana.
Whilst I have no doubt her heart is in the right place Simphiwe tends to be a hard-line, extreme left pseudo politician; extreme left politics are littered with racial segregation and identify whites as the enemy of the people, the politics are borderline and based on division rather than unity. The philosophies are dangerous and out of place in a country with as much diversity as ours.
She too misunderstands what Biko stood for, what black consciousness is about. BCM is about black people being self-reliant and understanding that your blackness is not a handicap. Biko teaches that we as black people can be as successful and as prosperous as Indians are, as whites are. His politics need to be understood in the context he articulated his views. This was a time pre-1976 when apartheid was entrenched even in schools were white kids were taught blacks were inferior our hair and features used as evidence to support this. Biko’s message was we are as good and can be as successful given an opportunity.
Biko never taught hate or racial division, to say Malema is the best thing to Biko is indicative of someone who misses the point completely and projects their own thinking and using BCM tenants to support their views. We need to create a country where we live side-by-side in harmony but requires sacrifice from all of us.
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Phuphethakatha
@Mgaraji@ Makhosini0408: Robert Sobukwe, Steve Biko and Chris Hani were great sons od the soil. Lest we forget.
I am noting that all the great leaders mentioned are Xhosa you & Dana are referring to in your article, tendency among Xhosa analysts & academia. You hardly hear Xhosa speaking person praising Moroka, Makgatho, Mahabane, Gumede as great leaders and yet Zuma is accused of tribalism.
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So who do non-Xhosa speaking analysts, academia etc mention?
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Dzel
Papage,I think there is a need to revive Black Conscious Movement, ANC has lost direction
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BCM is a dangerous ideology in the hands of those who don’t understand it as it is easy to twist it around and use it as an instrument for perpetuating hate. BCM is about self-improvement, not oppression of others. It is doing and being the best you can be because you are not limited in any way. The opposite of BCM is the bell-curve theory that says blacks are inherently inferior and that is what BCM seeks to address.
Dana is coming with her Std 2 politics and misses the point completely, reading her political views it became obvious what her interpretation of BCM is though one could see what influenced her beliefs.
BTW BCM has never been an ANC ideology; AZAPO was and still is the proponent of BCM.
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Dzel
Wow! I am impressed cornelius, your assessment is spot on.Report Abuse
dipi
Simphiwe you are trying to make a point but you fail to admit that we cant keep on blaming apartheid. We all know that our black leaders are corrupt and they are crippling our economy by enriching themselves and their friends, so the minority is still ruling the majority but this time the rich minority are black people. Julius is also one of them, i will never support any leader that preaches violence because at the end of the day it is not him that goes to war but our own kids. so let us stop using other people for our own gains.Report Abuse
MOKOPANEDUDE
Biko's political ideology could have being changed like all politician who saw money and forgot where they come from,money is money these why in America their governor most are rich,they avoid poor who gonna fill their pocket with money b4 developing their region,Simphiwe do what u do best,just sing my sister comparing Malema and Steve Biko insultReport Abuse
Right-Back-Khumalo
Aparteid deserves all the blame it can get. It did enough demage to us...Report Abuse
Risen4romthedead
"I'm sure there are many Bikos in South Africa today. They do things quietly, and some should really stand up and lead us."_______________________________________________________________________________
What has she done in her community?change begins with you!
Stop smoking too much zol....
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Cheif
I gree with you Dana, witht he exception of the Malemas. To the so called idiologist, you all are talkin BS. A hungry mother and a child in a village, a menstanding on the streets begging for food, doesnt give s***t about the idiology. People need jobs and the likes of zuma and the zwelithini's do give a damn about evryone else.Politica education is BS, we dont need polical education to realise that this peoor is geting poorer.
Zuma believes that service delivery is exception in SA. That tell you that there is something wrong. He is oblivious of reality
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mqondiso
is she aware that the Biko did not support woman to wear make-up nad maskaras, like she didReport Abuse
|Sinudeity|
Cheif - Nor do you need an education to fix the poverty. Because you can simply blame it on the poor, continue business and usual, and continue not giving a damn about the poor.Report Abuse
cornelius
@Dzel - I know.The problem is that the populist version of BC is so much easier to sell. There is hard work for people like you and other bl.ack intellectuals.
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Cl!ck-
Dana looks high on 95 Unleaded petrol.. She failed a drug test.. What does she know about politics??Report Abuse
Phuphethakatha
This Dana woman must be planting her own weed that she's keeps smoking. Eastern Cape police must check her garden in the countryside. She once said "isiZulu must be the only language of communication throughout Southern Africa" and I was dumbfounded. She's always high, for free!Report Abuse
The_Only_1
It is very important that Simphiwe Dana must go back to school and understand the social behavior and life in general. I aknowledge her freedom of expression; however there are specific exclusions that form 'party' to those rights. Firstly, Steve Biko never had a Charter as he spent his entire life working for the ANC and fighting for freedom up until he was framed and killed by apartheid government; including those medical doctors who were used as Agents. Even the views that were expressed by utata Mandela are not his views; rather or perhaps were the views of the ANC.If the ANC as a 'Company' later decided to change the freedom charter as the Policy through Policy Positions, then that will mean the new charter superceides the old charter and the old one becomes null and void. According to my knowledge the charter has been practised as was mooted in 1942. Its Only former President of the youth league; Julius Malema " herein after referred to as My President"who has been proposing changes known as - " Econonomic Freedom in our lifetime'; My President is The_Only_1 who came up with proposals after the charter was mooted in 1942 and also challenged the issues of land restitution.Report Abuse
Phathuza
Malema nad Mbalula are not like Biko they want to control the ANCBiko was not staying in Sandton
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californiaqueen
SIMPHIWE, u can not wait for another Steve Biko to lead you, take a stand and show them what leadership is. bring the style and stop hoping for someone to come and lead youI can see you and Malema see eye to eye, is he your friend
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somaartakeit
Dana, FINALLY!! you took away your focus from the president's zoei and are now begining to talk about stuff that real speak to the core of our nation.now that you have a bit of focus and some concentration, please know that, the ONLY way proven the world for citizens to uplift themselves from poverty is .....wait for it....EDUCATION without Biko's freedom charter as you now call it, will NEVER materialise, now can you please ask both blade and angie why is SA's education going to the dogs and what are they doing to remedy this horrid situation.
On a personal note, kindly refrain from using dark colours for your smokey eyes make-up, it doesn't suit you it makes you look like you have not had a sleep for months.
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skwamasamabele
Well, Bantubonke Biko will still be struggling today, for Black Emancipation. Even the press were all for Black Conciousness Movement (and attended the Black People's Convention) and knew that Bantubonke had a realistic vision. I mean, you take Malcom X and mix him with Hussein Obama, you end up with Bantubonke. A true 'Motherland African' SonReport Abuse
seutullamakunutu
What ?!!!!!!She smokes nyaope this one
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MommaC
The_Only_1LOL
She isn't the only one. Your grasp of history is just awful.
Steve Biko was NEVER a member of the ANC. In fact, it has always been believed that the government got hold of him because they were tipped off by the ANC as to his whereabouts. Why do you think we hear so little about the great Biko? It is because the ANC hated him.
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