|Sinudeity|

Dont let the international media hear about this one. Might just realise how savage these miners actually are.
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Chichi7

Close the damn mine and see what these hooligans will do for a living. Am just tired of this.
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Ompas

People are very quick to to talk about brutality of the police but no one will make a noise about this poor man.
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Papage

Is there any way to solve this madness? the fact that some want to work and others says no, people will continue killing each other
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MommaC

It is like a more vicious version of Lord of the Flies - only with grown men
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Eraser

@Chichi7
@Ompas

true this miners r cruel, they should close the mine, this killings wont stop.

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pierre2012

The miners have a right to ask for salary increase but THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO K.ILL others just for money!! They are idio.ts, blood,y murd.erers who should be handled with an iron-fist!!! If they are not happy with payment, they may resign and look for better jobs. Moving all over the place with mache.tes, gu.ns, sticks, etc is uncouth!!!!!!!!!!!
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pierre2012

@ Sinudeity|
Dont let the international media hear about this one. Might just realise how savage these miners actually are.
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I saw it on Aljzeera this morning!!!!!!!!!
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PapaTshego

I would really like to hear what Juju will say about this killing. There was too much noise about police killing the miners but nothing is being said about miners killing other miners!
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Kaylae

So they are k!lling dedicated people who have responsibilities towards their families.and when the police intervene Mthethwa and Zuma sent them to k!ll this is utter nonsense mxm(nigerian accent).Who gives them the right to panga people who doesn't want to engage in their strike retards
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|Sinudeity|

Hopefully, after D-day yesterday, the workers will start getting fired.
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pierre2012

@PapaTshego
I would really like to hear what Juju will say about this killing. There was too much noise about police killing the miners but nothing is being said about miners killing other miners!
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People like Juju are good at making empty populistic noise, criticizing others, but offer no logical alternatives/strategies to address issues. To be fair, even the current presid@nt, Mr Z, over-pushed his predecessor (sp) for allegedly under-performing and not 'helping the people', but i don't think now he still holds the same view - given the "hot" sit he is sitting on manje!!
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kage251084

@Pierre sometimes lets not hurry to jump the gun. Marikana deaths to this point are to be blamed on the government,unions and Lonmin...First of all the government is still permitting Lonmin to issue communications that says people should report to work while they are aware of the situation that is around their operation's..and why did CCMA sign a deal that says "go to work before negotiations"?why not the other way round first?@Eraser Lonmin if it wanted to close the mines it could have done so long time ago but based on platinum reserves contained in this mines they can't because they want to exploit this country before they part ways with it..the salary this people are asking for is not unrealistic as many people are saying...since 10 Aug. 2012 i conducted a research on the Rock Drillers around the world and found that there is a mining company in South Carolina that pays its workers $ 35'443.00 per annum (which translate to R2880506.02 per annum @R/$ 8.14 today which is R24 042.17 per month). I don't condone the killings but what I'm saying is the government and unions are selling our people out
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kage251084

@Sowetan why did you remove my command?

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THEmadame2B-BBEE

great now they r turning on each other, this will never stop, BLACK PPL MARA Y, MARA Y......these white ppl r rolling on their sofa's and laughing at us
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cornelius

Savages, who can have sympathy for them ? Why are we mourning the loss of their lives when they have no respect for a life themselves ? A big problem is that so many people in SA are still nothing more than uncivilised savages.
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Comeback

Exactly NOW WHAT?? Blaming poor SAPS for self defense, its clear what would have happened to the police if they didn't do what they did
everybody knows this R12500 is unsustainable, why do we go to school and spend sleepless nights studying if unskilled labourers demand R12,500
I'm not saying they should be exploited but R12,500 is just crazy
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candilious

So what with Malema say to them now
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Hosh6

These people don't listen...why go to work if you know you would be jeorpadizing your life?
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MorenaWaPolelo

Savages out of control if you ask me!!!
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RobinH

What a stark contrast to the virtual hysteria displayed at the funerals when the medai was present to garner sympathy. If these people cared sop much about their comrades, how can they just ignore this death. Our people have lost all decency.

What kind of "peaceful demonstration" takes place with hundreds waving sticks and carrying pangas?
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sabza007

@Hosh6
These people don't listen...why go to work if you know you would be jeorpadizing your life?
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Its their right to go to work. What do you do as a man when your family,your kids look you in the eyes and say ''Baba, we are hungry''. Have you seen the eyes of a hungry child?, Your baby has no nappies. You have to pay rent and so forth.

Majority of these striking miners don't pay rent.They stay in those shacks next to the mine, they have families back home. Majority of these miners are Xhosa people from Eastern Cape. How come Lonmin has a large population of its workforce being Xhosas from Eastern Cape whereas this Lonmin is located in Tswana /Sotho populated area. Just a question.
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cornelius

@ THEmadame 2 BEE - you are so wrong. It is not a quaetion of laughing, it is frustration and sadness.
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Hosh6

sabza007
How is he going to feed his family and pay for that rent now that he is dead?
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Kaylae

@Sabza007 maybe cause the Tshwanas in that area are educated or went to mine elsewhere(No offense to Xhosas)
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Lipgloss

Shame Rats
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swona

think the mine should suspend activity until futher notice, this hooligans will kill lots of people!
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Boogie1985

Reason number 6 why i think like any other ruthless criminals roaming the streets, these miners deserve to die! Say whatever you wanna say but does it make it right for them to kill innocent people who actually want to make a living whatever their problems might be? this is babaric
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Babedollz

Comeback
Exactly NOW WHAT?? Blaming poor SAPS for self defense, its clear what would have happened to the police if they didn't do what they did
everybody knows this R12500 is unsustainable, why do we go to school and spend sleepless nights studying if unskilled labourers demand R12,500
I'm not saying they should be exploited but R12,500 is just crazy
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U on point. Demanding such amount is just absurd. Yes they can ask for a raise bt not this amount.
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Babedollz

@sabza007
Rustenburg is dominated by Tswanas.

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RobinH

How many of these people actually work on the mines? I always find it interesting when newscasts mention things like "Miners were joined by several hundred supporters." That tells me that the majority of those marching with sticks and pangas are not even part of the issue.

An interesting remark from a reader in the US pegs wages at similar levels of miners in the US at pretty much the same level as what is being earned here, give or take a buck.
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Sjekula

Maybe the miners must kill 34 people, they're currently on 12 and still going, and only then the Lekotas of this world will be satisfied. We musn't forget that even though we may be members of the same union, but at the end of the day, we go to work for our individual needs. AMCU leaders allowed their members to go to the mine on Monday looking for the so-called rats(Men and Women also entitled to life, political opinion, and affiliation) so they can kill them as they do not tow the line, and later went to the hospital to threaten the hospital stuff.
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Right-Back-Khumalo

If people were given discent salaries, this could have been avoided.
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MsKinkyakaKamaSutra

When will this savagery end

Lonmin et al close the mines and let the fukcwits see who they will demand money from. This is no longer about salary increases but plain criminality.............
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Sjekula

@Right-Back-Khumalo
Who would have avoided it? What do you do when you're not happy at work?
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cornelius

@Right-Back- Khumaol - You see this is where people like you demonstrate that you do not have a sound grasp of a constitutional state. If people are not being paid enough, there are ways to address that, through well developed legal processes, and if necessary strike action. There is always a tension betrween the interests of an employer and an employee. It is about the respective bargainign powers. The workers can avail themselves of collecctive bargaining ( a powerful tool in their favour) or legal strike action, in which a stand off occurs, and the one who can hold out the longest, will win. THERE CAN NEVER EVER EVER BE JUSTIFICATION FOR THE MURDER OF ANOTHER PERSON IN THESE CIRCUMSTANCES. The callous way in which tthey simply went on as if nothing happened, shows that they are actually not decent human beings, but friggin savages.
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lindsay

the reason why the strike won't end is because hundreds of the strikers are unemployed so they have nothing to loose.
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Kgaitsedi-ya-Genaro

Hai this has to stop now really, kante is it that easy to murder someone just like a mosquito. No No No matswalo a bona a ile kae?
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Right-Back-Khumalo

@cornelius...Their representives are sharing bed with an employer.
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cornelius

@Right - Back Khumalo - then form another union that will represent you properly. This country is fast gettion ghte reputation of being one o fthe most violent countries in the world - come on, I don't want us to be regarded as a murderous, violent nation, where is the pride, why is it necessary, democracy has been attained, use the legal channels now.
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snazz

If the miners are responsible for this heinous perpetrators must be held accountable murder is not the way for one to raise their concents.......................
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cornelius

Just a question : why does one take such vicious weapons to a labour strike ?
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Moffdat

They should have shot more of them this way there will be less the next time round. Open fire POLICE
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