The eThekwini municipality has set aside R1.5million to entice people to watch games at three of Durban's stadiums at ratepayers' expense, the Mercury reported.
So pay public funds to skew the figures just a little more. This is crazy!!! Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
MorenaWaPolelo
A crazy idea indeed!!!!! A lack of leadership is very dangereous, how can a person think of such an idea????? Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
inkwenkweemdaka
fa go raloka jomo le rose united fela Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
sowet123
We pay thousands every month, and with everything going up a re sale ka nix .
nou the want to spend all our hard worked cents to this, agg man if tax money is too much they must decrease it so that some of us could spoil ourselves
mxxx
How about simply improving the quality of our soccer, so people will be more inclined to go and watch? Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
Vhamsanda
Great idea. This publicity has made Durban a prefered tourist destination of what it is today. Big UP to the KZN Provincial government. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
Shaangrito
Hahaha this is a joke. I cant believe that a group of "profesional" can sit in a boardroom for an a hour and come up with such a stupid idea, to make matters worse the idea was approved by the executives. Looooooool. Report Abuse
Hahah thats my city! hahah Oh thats just great. They practically begging the sharks to move over, but the seating is totally different so it won't work. Its sad that such a beautiful stadium should go to waste. RHCP could of played there too. Best of luck it is really a tragedy
RobinH
Oh and according to Sin we are cowardice because we only here to make friends and not debate hard facts, just thought I'll give you a heads up. Daar is 'n slang in die gras. Report Abuse
Thats why i will never work for any government department, these idiots are just incompetent and i doubt if they could survive in the private sector. I am not surprised anyway they never worked for that money thats the reason why they using it like this. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
RobinH
Daniel: If only you knew what a social recluse I am, then you would see how absurd that is. I generally tend to shun social contact. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
BraSteve
They must give us free food as well. Then, i might just come. Hahaha! Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
Danielrjvvuren
RobinH
All that just because I challenged his views I was told i'm a child and dreaming and all manner of things. Just moved right along. Trying to be more impartial but seems its frowned upon by some. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
RobinH
Daniel: The problem witrh party-apparatchiks is that though often very intelligent, they are simply unable to see past party doctrine. I find such unconditional loyalty from clearly bright people extremely distressing. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
MommaC
If it is a short term marketing ploy then it is quite a good one. If it is a long term idea then it isn't really sustainable.
It started with the 6-0 AmaZulu game even when chimps were in town no-one wanted to watch soccer !! Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
RobinH
MommaC: I don't see it as a solution to anything. They are side-stepping a rather important issue. These stadia were built to hugely inflated expectations and with grossly inflated costs to local tenderpreneurs. These costs are now to be recovered, but they can't. so this is a desperate attempt to distract peole from the key issue, while claiming that they serve so many thousand people on a regular basis. It's pure sleight of hand. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
Danielrjvvuren
Listen this might sound a bit racist an ignorant, but get some of these white and indian people in there man! Make a combo ticket when the sharks play right after that you can go see AmaZulu play. I never hear about dam matches so I can never go. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
Lehido
So, this is where my hefty tax goes?....kak! Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
Tasto
Put up a tender to move the staduim to iNkanda kaJZ man !! Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
MommaC
RobinH
Have you ever heard of the 'puppydog sale'?
It was first used by a brilliant TV salesman. The idea was that you take the TV home for a week and then decide if you wanted to purchase it or not (yea, more innocent times with less people anxious to just run off with them). Well after the neighbours and friends had seen the prestigious new fangled TV in your lounge, there was no way you could take it back.
Maybe the idea is based on the same principle. If you make it a 'norm' for families to go out every Sat afternoon for (lets say) a month and you make it a special day then the desire to go out is created and they are prepared to pay (in ever increasing amounts) in order to have that fun. Also, by using it for different activities, you encourage marketing people to consider using the 'popular' facility for their activities.
Chancy, but it could work if done right Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
RobinH
MommaC: Sure, but meanwhile ONCE AGAIN tapping into the pocket of Mr Citizen. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
Sinudeity_
Danielrjvvuren - Are you whining here now? Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
Danielrjvvuren
Sinudeity
No man I'm making friends dude! So many to choose from. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
RobinH
Anhyone want to be my friend? Apparently I am searching. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
Danielrjvvuren
Sinudeity_
DA-DBN-GUY - I can spot the trend though...
MommaC/RobinH and Daniel would rather be politically correct, and make some friends on the forums instead of actually looking at things from face value.
Somehow attacking the DA makes them cool with the sowetan crowd :P
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Aug 31, 2012
MommaC
RobinH
Unfortunately, advertising costs money. If it can ensure that a year down the line, the Joe Citizen isn't still paying for the complete cost of maintaining the stadium, then I recon it could be worth it. We have to start making those structures pay for themselves at some stage. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
RobinH
MommaC: Call me slow, but I fail to see how subsidising tickets at rate-payers' expense is making them pay for themselves. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
Danielrjvvuren
MommaC RobinH
But what gets me is this, yes DBN is not the best place for some concerts like lil Wayne and such, but then they send Duran Duran and Vanilla Ice our way? Who on earth will go see them? Then they blame the crowed for not buying tickets, but clearly the bands that will work they don't even consider DBN? Kings of Leon, 30 Seconds to Marks, Linkin Park and RHCP will sell out faster then CPT , but they never send big bands this way because of the data collected from smaller less popular acts. Look at Top Gear and what a success that was! We need more of that to make the stadium profitable. Report Abuse
As I say, it is chancy but the creation of 'habit' could very well work. If they subsidise part of the ticket then at least the other part is paying for the upkeep of the stadium. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
Winilen
Black ppl like free things & that wht the municipality doing...given us things for free...im so happy:).
atleast i will get somethin for all the tax i am paying and get waisted by corrupt politician... Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
Sinudeity_
Danielrjvvuren - Durban sucks for concerts dude. In the past, whenever there was a concert in Durban, barely half of the tickets were sold. Joburg/CT in the meanwhile, sold out every time.
Why dont you just get the Durban government to buy out all the rest of the concert tickets. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
MommaC
Danielrjvvuren
Money.
We have few concerts so the hasbeens have a chance to make some moola but the isbeeings can get more money for less journey. We aren't exactly the world leaders in CD sales.
What I would love to see is some band playoffs. In the good old bad old days, we used to have 'garage' bands. Having some of them showcasing their stuff and getting some publicity would be great. Kind of an armature 'oppikoppi' Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
RobinH
Daniel, I totally agree. No-one did much market-research here. And the example of bands is a very good one. However, the snag with that one, is that those are not arranged by the municipalities but by Big Concerts who seem to have manipulated themselves into a monopoly, and having done that are passing off has beens at truly ridiculous prices. So for that excellent idea to work,some other local entrepeneurs need first to go into competition with Big COncerts, and then not to wait for municipalities to come to them, but to actively engage municipalities with decent planning, which could bring in a decent act once a month. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
Danielrjvvuren
Sinudeity
I'm going to play your game now. I hear your mother sucks at big concerts too! Ignoring you remember
MommaC
Thats what makes me sad when burn closed down. It was the last place you could go see a "garage band" do their thing and rock out. Everything has become way too commercial. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
Danielrjvvuren
RobinH
How has Big Concerts become so popular? and computicket? They made such a hash of the RHCP ticket sales. I have tickets so I can't complain, but in the end the research they have done was not done properly. They use figures from Duran Duran to justify not bringing 30 second to mars to Durban. Now if I want to do research on apples sales I'm not going to look how well oranges sell... Is that how it works? Must municipalities go to big concerts and ask for the acts? Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
RobinH
Daniel. I'm not saying they're popular. But they seem to have securd a virtual monoploy on imported acts, other than boring smooth jazz and half-dead crooners. Report Abuse
RobinH
I will admit the 80's festival was amazing here in DBN and Durban Day is also very nice, but you really need to get big names in to justify the cost of the stadium. Top Gear filled a quarter of the stadium for 2 shows over 3 days and made their cost back. Now fill half of the stadium for one night for a big name and we are in business. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
Danielrjvvuren
candilious
My skattebol! Dit gaan goed! Hoe gaan dinge daar? Where you been hiding? Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
candilious
@Daniel -Haai nee ek is net n bietjie besig en baie produktief moet sente maak vir ons goverment om my kaal te beroof.................. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
Danielrjvvuren
candilious
Hahah love it! Hahah. Blyk my hulle beroof almal en als deesdae, miskien moet ons ook staak? I always wanted to have a strike outside government for something but make it a bring and braai strike. Make such a jol that government is forced to act because of the music and festivities. hahah Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
candilious
@Daniel-daai is mos n plan laat weet my as die strike op hol is want ek sal pens en pooitjies daar gaan toy toy met my eie vleis.........hehehehheheheheh Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
Danielrjvvuren
candilious
Ons noem dit braai biltong bier en betoging! hahah Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
online~Evangelist
1 cor 6:9
Dont you know the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom, dont be deceived Neither the sexually immoral, fornicators, homosexuals, thieves, those that practice witchcraft, the list is endless
Jesus came so that sinners may come to REPENTance, so TAKE a decision while you still have time, FOR it is appointed for one to die then face judgement Heb 9:27. Today is the day for thy salvation GET saved my friend because your sin wont absolve thee in eternity
Jesus is the Way The truth and The life no one goeth to the Father except through Him
online~Evangelist
For the glory of Satan? Why do this here man? Do I spoil your lunch with thrusting my penis in your face? Why force your religion here? Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
Sinudeity_
Danielrjvvuren - "I'm going to play your game now. I hear your mother sucks at big concerts too! Ignoring you remember"
LOL danie, hierdie is jou speletjies jong. Especially going back to the other thread, and we can see how the insults flowed from your lips freely. I myself, Im guilty of sarcasm. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
Danielrjvvuren
Sinudeity
You want to be my friend? We insult the DA to be popular. Report Abuse
NO sexually impure soul will inherit Heaven, No HOMOSEXUAL shall inherit Heaven, Neither Thief shall, Even the religious will NOT, Nor Party animals.
UNLESS, We all REPENT and live according to what God calls righteous shall make it to the Father
Time is against us O'h lost sinner
time is against you o'h Wise-foolish man
time is againt you o'h My friend
where will you be in 100 years henceforth?? where will your soul be!!!
No really now dude. Stop trying to hijack every comments string. You are worse than a blerrie Nigerian drug lord in a Hillbrow apartment block. Report Abuse
We had a place down by Fairyglenn where they used to have a lot of young local bands. Some of those kids are really talented. Unfortunately, zoning laws got rid of it but it was always packed so it was not like it was a bad concept. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
online~Evangelist
fight not with me?
jeer not at me?
Are the words that i speak wrong?
Are they not jotted down in the books?
Sin. Pick me! Pick me!!! I need a friend. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
Danielrjvvuren
MommaC
This MK thing doesn't really help them hey? It seems that there are trends even within rock and the one band sounds as much alike as the next. There seems to be a new movement in DBN to bring back jazz lounges. A few has sprung up that sells some of the best food and plays amateur jazz. Not really a jazz fan, but it we need more places where artist can express themselves. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
online~Evangelist
A good friend is Jesus!
He is the True shepperd, He laid His life down for lost man's soul such as us
If you can choose to befriend Him i submit to you Life will flow down into your life sometimes devoid of pleasure and true joy
Out of all commentors, only you guys are are irritated by Mfundisi online~Evangelist statement:
It seems to me that you two knows something we don't & you want to be friends also...............
Immoral people are creating havoc in our society & that I agree with Mfundisi shouldn't be tolerated even in this platform. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
Danielrjvvuren
Bra_A
Evidently we tolerate the blind too? Its me and MommaC? But yeah what ever floats your boat dude...
What is new here? Complementary tickets have always been issued at Loftus and Lucas Moripe stadium during Sundowns and SSU matches. I've been given them since 2005... Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
RobinH
Daniel: The thing about "jazz lounges" is that they tend to lay on what I would like to refer to as "jazz muzak". That totally directionless wallpaper music the little reflects the notion of jazz as the music of freedom. Generally quite boring regurgitations of classics or else just meaningless decoration. Very little provision is made for the so-called avant-garde, and this is sad, as our country is rich in very sophisticated musicians and jazz-audiences who want more than KennyG or the like, or who want to think beyond African Jazz. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
candilious
Danielrjvvuren
candilious
Ons noem dit braai biltong bier en betoging! hahah
________________________________hahahahahhahahahahhah nice 1
What is Crazy about it? it is called marketing, companies do that, they buy rugby and chricket tickets and distribute them to Falimies and friends of the big bosses and the real workers dont get to visit their companies suite at the stadium, so what is wrong if the manucipality market their product? it is good that those tickets are given to locals and not to big bosses Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
Danielrjvvuren
RobinH
I never understood "educated jazz" and for a professional dancer not to understand music is scary. Its like an architect not comprehending a pencil, but I am with you there. There are many artist that I have heard that just do not see the light of day just because there is no market for them. My sisters friend is a violinist and my god can that man play but he gets nowhere because the style of music he makes is not termed popular. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
Sinudeity_
candilious - Howsit candi. Hope you enjoy the *** weather today :P Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
MommaC
Danielrjvvuren
I can remember many a great evening at Rumours in Pta with good jazz and good wine :)
Joburg seems to be moving in on the niche markets now. They have coffee shops doing poetry evenings and 'theme' clubs. It is a lot different in Joeys though. A lot more people, a lot more money and no beach to distract anyone from going out.
The important part is that the stadium managers should think out of the box about who to market to. At the moment they are outside the box but pressed firmly against its sides. It is understandable as a fail is a big risk but, without a bit of risk, we would never progress Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
candilious
@Sin -Yip every minute of it .......................
JESUS, The only fare you pay is simply REPENTANCE from sinfulness (thats all)
I tell you, No Liar will be there, No homo will be there, no wizards will be there WHY: They refused to Repent
The stadium has the potensial to become really great. We had the cricket agains India there and was that amazing the problem is no grass so the cricket is staying away. Again the seating isn't right for Rugby so in the end what is left to do but really up our soccer team and market them rather. Take all the money going to "subsidies" tickets and help the coaches and players get better known.
You will find more interior in Dbn becoming very almost Bohemian. Hillcrest kloof those places are making a k1lling by becoming very niche. Its nice that we are moving away from what is conventional Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
Danielrjvvuren
online~Evangelist
Free tickets to heaven?
If its given out by Computicket its the cheap seats dude don't take them! Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
RobinH
Evangelist: Quick, phone Durban municipality and tell them about the special offer. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
swona
ANC has brought us a unique dimension in leadership, are these people serious? Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
Danielrjvvuren
No Liar will be there, No homo will be there, no wizards will be there WHY
Wait wait wait... No wizard? No harry potter? Nope heaven is not for me then..... Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
MommaC
Danielrjvvuren
Must admit, I haven't been to Dubs in well over a decade. Durbs just doesn't like me. Either the car breaks down, the bags get stolen, my foot gets cut and goes septic or something equally irritating
What about weird stuff like cheer-leading competitions or drum majorette competitions or regional Karate finals .....?
I have no bloody clue if any of those would bring in money or crowds but it could be worth looking into Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
MommaC
online~Evangelist
Jesus dude. You are like a broken record. Get a life, or a clue, or some medication Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
online~Evangelist
its all fine to jest, HOWEVER the truth is Time is against you oh' poor soul
REPENT of your SINS and be counted worthy so that there can be an allocation for you in that Heavenly stadium
We did once have an entire dancing competition outside Durban City Hall. The big international dancing comps have floors the size of a soccer field so why not take advantage of the weather lay some hardwood on top of rigging and dance by stadium. There was a warm up match with Bafana that only cost R50 and that place was packed now tell me they didn't make at least a small profit out of that? Market events more. I don't know when any sports go's on there and it is sad. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
online~Evangelist
MommaC
online~Evangelist
Jesus dude. You are like a broken record. Get a life, or a clue, or some medication
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ha....ha.....ha....ha....ha
i guess The Words are making real sounds in Your head hence the response. That is a good sign.
soon you will be on your knees REPENTING,
Praise The Lord Amen
online~Evangelist
The no Homo thing bothers me too... How will I be denied entry just because I like dudes? No wizards no dudes nah I'm fine in purgatory if thats ok? Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
RobinH
Evangelist. With respect, this here "poor soul" is perfectly happy with his state of being. WHat kind of absurd logic is it that leads you to think that because we disagree with you your message is taking hold. Repenting for what? Living a decent life and treating all around me as decent humans? I am so glad you are impressed. It makes me feel all warm inside. Must be that smugness rubbing off. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
RobinH
Daniel: Are you even surprised that this man is homophobic? It's par for the course for people like that who are so very right about everything because God says they are, but not a grain of reasoning to back it up. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
RobinH
Evangelist, and quoting myths does not consitute either proof or reason. SO please, I don't want to know what TiTus 3 verse three says. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
MommaC
Danielrjvvuren
Yea, dancing is hugely popular in SA - strangely enough, we don't hear about it very often.
Even if the ticket prices do nothing other than cover basic costs, it is still a lot more than if the stadium just stands collecting cobwebs. Marketing is the key ingredient. Talking of which, do you still have that monthly magazine which tells you all the stuff happening around Durban? Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
candilious
@MommaC/ Robin /Daniel /Sin
You guys have a lekke weekend im heading for some serious cooling off "Its Hot .........
take time and understand that we are lost without God, we opened ourselve to all forms of spiritual abuses from the wicked fallen angel known as Devil. Be fooled not by his logic, for we shall stand before almighty and be accountable for our sins and that will be an automatic condemnation
Jesus is the only remedy to sinfulness.
Are the words that are written in Bible true or NOT?
RobinH
Me too... Hahah I don't like the conventional gays as it stands. Why change and do that flapper thing? You're just a dude who likes dudes. I still like braai-ing and beer and rugby. haha but yes I understand your point. Jesus says nothing about homosexuality. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
Danielrjvvuren
candilious
Be good hey! F8ck it be naughty! hahah just be safe please no drink and driving and if anyone wants to do unscrupulous things to you kick him in the face.
MommaC
The people who published that whats on diary got absorbed by Caxton and we all know how caxton likes to run its affairs. Ass front first Report Abuse
Not so lots hey. It is just the mosquito buzzing is getting in the way of a real debate about non mythical BS. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
RobinH
EVangelist: Stupid question. Obviously those to whom it is addressed will say they/we don't accept the Bible as a valid document in terms of "truth" - that tricky little word. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
MommaC
candilious
Its my kinda weather - I'm loving it :)
Have a wonderful weekend, lovely lady. Report Abuse
Father, In heaven. Here are your people whom you Love perfectly, I ask you would open their eyes that they may see things as they are. I pray your expose their hearts to thmselves so that they may REPENT and be heaven bound through the blood of Jesus.
I bind foolishness, sexual impure spirit, homosexuality,greed, Lie, and Violence. i ask you would permeate their hearts oh' My father that they see The Truth.
Let conviction of sin surround them till their departure on earth.
Let Jesus and REPENTANCE be forever with them as they continue to live on this doomed planet.
God, let your mercy and Grace surround them, just like you did to me and other BORN agains.
In The name of Jesus, i pray
AMEN_ Have a great weekend
online~Evangelist
Where will I be when I'm dead?
I'll be dead who gives a f*ck?
How old will I be in 100 years?
Too old to really care about age? Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
RobinH
Evangelist> So nice to know. I will be dead and ashes strewn over the peninsula. End of story. Sorry man, lost my Lithium. Want to share yours? My age is none of your business. Here's a clue: Heard of Lazarus? Report Abuse
Moses Mabhida is in my opinion the best stadium in the country, being from Durbs i am a bit biased, but the eThekwinin municipality never did their homework when the okayed the building of the stadium. They never thought of what to do with the stadium after the world cup and now the expect the Sharks to move across. Sharks were open to discusiions before the stadium was being built but were snubbed. The knew that the best supported soccer teams are in Jhb but still went ahead. The stadium is not suitable for watching rugby or cricket fixtures. As for bringing big name bands to Durbs, they dont get marketed as well in Durban as they do in JHB and CPT which is very sad indeed.
The city made the decision to build the stadium amongst opposition from various parties and now they must live with it. I dont see why my tax money should be used to pay for the best unused stadium in SA Report Abuse
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RobinH
So pay public funds to skew the figures just a little more. This is crazy!!!Report Abuse
MorenaWaPolelo
A crazy idea indeed!!!!! A lack of leadership is very dangereous, how can a person think of such an idea?????Report Abuse
inkwenkweemdaka
fa go raloka jomo le rose united felaReport Abuse
sowet123
We pay thousands every month, and with everything going up a re sale ka nix .nou the want to spend all our hard worked cents to this, agg man if tax money is too much they must decrease it so that some of us could spoil ourselves
mxxx
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RobinH
How about simply improving the quality of our soccer, so people will be more inclined to go and watch?Report Abuse
Vhamsanda
Great idea. This publicity has made Durban a prefered tourist destination of what it is today. Big UP to the KZN Provincial government.Report Abuse
Shaangrito
Hahaha this is a joke. I cant believe that a group of "profesional" can sit in a boardroom for an a hour and come up with such a stupid idea, to make matters worse the idea was approved by the executives. Looooooool.Report Abuse
7040360
#smh#Report Abuse
Danielrjvvuren
Hahah thats my city! hahah Oh thats just great. They practically begging the sharks to move over, but the seating is totally different so it won't work. Its sad that such a beautiful stadium should go to waste. RHCP could of played there too. Best of luck it is really a tragedyRobinH
Oh and according to Sin we are cowardice because we only here to make friends and not debate hard facts, just thought I'll give you a heads up. Daar is 'n slang in die gras.
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Kaylae
We are run by lazy thinkersReport Abuse
Mcwa
Thats why i will never work for any government department, these idiots are just incompetent and i doubt if they could survive in the private sector. I am not surprised anyway they never worked for that money thats the reason why they using it like this.Report Abuse
RobinH
Daniel: If only you knew what a social recluse I am, then you would see how absurd that is. I generally tend to shun social contact.Report Abuse
BraSteve
They must give us free food as well. Then, i might just come. Hahaha!Report Abuse
Danielrjvvuren
RobinHAll that just because I challenged his views I was told i'm a child and dreaming and all manner of things. Just moved right along. Trying to be more impartial but seems its frowned upon by some.
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RobinH
Daniel: The problem witrh party-apparatchiks is that though often very intelligent, they are simply unable to see past party doctrine. I find such unconditional loyalty from clearly bright people extremely distressing.Report Abuse
MommaC
If it is a short term marketing ploy then it is quite a good one. If it is a long term idea then it isn't really sustainable.Report Abuse
Tasto
It started with the 6-0 AmaZulu game even when chimps were in town no-one wanted to watch soccer !!Report Abuse
RobinH
MommaC: I don't see it as a solution to anything. They are side-stepping a rather important issue. These stadia were built to hugely inflated expectations and with grossly inflated costs to local tenderpreneurs. These costs are now to be recovered, but they can't. so this is a desperate attempt to distract peole from the key issue, while claiming that they serve so many thousand people on a regular basis. It's pure sleight of hand.Report Abuse
Danielrjvvuren
Listen this might sound a bit racist an ignorant, but get some of these white and indian people in there man! Make a combo ticket when the sharks play right after that you can go see AmaZulu play. I never hear about dam matches so I can never go.Report Abuse
Lehido
So, this is where my hefty tax goes?....kak!Report Abuse
Tasto
Put up a tender to move the staduim to iNkanda kaJZ man !!Report Abuse
MommaC
RobinHHave you ever heard of the 'puppydog sale'?
It was first used by a brilliant TV salesman. The idea was that you take the TV home for a week and then decide if you wanted to purchase it or not (yea, more innocent times with less people anxious to just run off with them). Well after the neighbours and friends had seen the prestigious new fangled TV in your lounge, there was no way you could take it back.
Maybe the idea is based on the same principle. If you make it a 'norm' for families to go out every Sat afternoon for (lets say) a month and you make it a special day then the desire to go out is created and they are prepared to pay (in ever increasing amounts) in order to have that fun. Also, by using it for different activities, you encourage marketing people to consider using the 'popular' facility for their activities.
Chancy, but it could work if done right
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RobinH
MommaC: Sure, but meanwhile ONCE AGAIN tapping into the pocket of Mr Citizen.Report Abuse
Sinudeity_
Danielrjvvuren - Are you whining here now?Report Abuse
Danielrjvvuren
SinudeityNo man I'm making friends dude! So many to choose from.
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RobinH
Anhyone want to be my friend? Apparently I am searching.Report Abuse
Danielrjvvuren
Sinudeity_DA-DBN-GUY - I can spot the trend though...
MommaC/RobinH and Daniel would rather be politically correct, and make some friends on the forums instead of actually looking at things from face value.
Somehow attacking the DA makes them cool with the sowetan crowd :P
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Just before he denies ever saying such things...
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MommaC
RobinHUnfortunately, advertising costs money. If it can ensure that a year down the line, the Joe Citizen isn't still paying for the complete cost of maintaining the stadium, then I recon it could be worth it. We have to start making those structures pay for themselves at some stage.
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RobinH
MommaC: Call me slow, but I fail to see how subsidising tickets at rate-payers' expense is making them pay for themselves.Report Abuse
Danielrjvvuren
MommaC RobinHBut what gets me is this, yes DBN is not the best place for some concerts like lil Wayne and such, but then they send Duran Duran and Vanilla Ice our way? Who on earth will go see them? Then they blame the crowed for not buying tickets, but clearly the bands that will work they don't even consider DBN? Kings of Leon, 30 Seconds to Marks, Linkin Park and RHCP will sell out faster then CPT , but they never send big bands this way because of the data collected from smaller less popular acts. Look at Top Gear and what a success that was! We need more of that to make the stadium profitable.
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MommaC
RobinHAs I say, it is chancy but the creation of 'habit' could very well work. If they subsidise part of the ticket then at least the other part is paying for the upkeep of the stadium.
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Winilen
Black ppl like free things & that wht the municipality doing...given us things for free...im so happy:).atleast i will get somethin for all the tax i am paying and get waisted by corrupt politician...
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Sinudeity_
Danielrjvvuren - Durban sucks for concerts dude. In the past, whenever there was a concert in Durban, barely half of the tickets were sold. Joburg/CT in the meanwhile, sold out every time.Why dont you just get the Durban government to buy out all the rest of the concert tickets.
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MommaC
DanielrjvvurenMoney.
We have few concerts so the hasbeens have a chance to make some moola but the isbeeings can get more money for less journey. We aren't exactly the world leaders in CD sales.
What I would love to see is some band playoffs. In the good old bad old days, we used to have 'garage' bands. Having some of them showcasing their stuff and getting some publicity would be great. Kind of an armature 'oppikoppi'
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RobinH
Daniel, I totally agree. No-one did much market-research here. And the example of bands is a very good one. However, the snag with that one, is that those are not arranged by the municipalities but by Big Concerts who seem to have manipulated themselves into a monopoly, and having done that are passing off has beens at truly ridiculous prices. So for that excellent idea to work,some other local entrepeneurs need first to go into competition with Big COncerts, and then not to wait for municipalities to come to them, but to actively engage municipalities with decent planning, which could bring in a decent act once a month.Report Abuse
Danielrjvvuren
SinudeityI'm going to play your game now. I hear your mother sucks at big concerts too! Ignoring you remember
MommaC
Thats what makes me sad when burn closed down. It was the last place you could go see a "garage band" do their thing and rock out. Everything has become way too commercial.
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Danielrjvvuren
RobinHHow has Big Concerts become so popular? and computicket? They made such a hash of the RHCP ticket sales. I have tickets so I can't complain, but in the end the research they have done was not done properly. They use figures from Duran Duran to justify not bringing 30 second to mars to Durban. Now if I want to do research on apples sales I'm not going to look how well oranges sell... Is that how it works? Must municipalities go to big concerts and ask for the acts?
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Daniel. I'm not saying they're popular. But they seem to have securd a virtual monoploy on imported acts, other than boring smooth jazz and half-dead crooners.Report Abuse
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Danielrjvvuren
RobinHI will admit the 80's festival was amazing here in DBN and Durban Day is also very nice, but you really need to get big names in to justify the cost of the stadium. Top Gear filled a quarter of the stadium for 2 shows over 3 days and made their cost back. Now fill half of the stadium for one night for a big name and we are in business.
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Danielrjvvuren
candiliousMy skattebol! Dit gaan goed! Hoe gaan dinge daar? Where you been hiding?
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candilious
@Daniel -Haai nee ek is net n bietjie besig en baie produktief moet sente maak vir ons goverment om my kaal te beroof..................Report Abuse
Danielrjvvuren
candiliousHahah love it! Hahah. Blyk my hulle beroof almal en als deesdae, miskien moet ons ook staak? I always wanted to have a strike outside government for something but make it a bring and braai strike. Make such a jol that government is forced to act because of the music and festivities. hahah
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@Daniel-daai is mos n plan laat weet my as die strike op hol is want ek sal pens en pooitjies daar gaan toy toy met my eie vleis.........hehehehhehehehehReport Abuse
Danielrjvvuren
candiliousOns noem dit braai biltong bier en betoging! hahah
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online~Evangelist
1 cor 6:9Dont you know the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom, dont be deceived Neither the sexually immoral, fornicators, homosexuals, thieves, those that practice witchcraft, the list is endless
Jesus came so that sinners may come to REPENTance, so TAKE a decision while you still have time, FOR it is appointed for one to die then face judgement Heb 9:27. Today is the day for thy salvation GET saved my friend because your sin wont absolve thee in eternity
Jesus is the Way The truth and The life no one goeth to the Father except through Him
The preacher has spoken
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Danielrjvvuren
online~EvangelistFor the glory of Satan? Why do this here man? Do I spoil your lunch with thrusting my penis in your face? Why force your religion here?
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Sinudeity_
Danielrjvvuren - "I'm going to play your game now. I hear your mother sucks at big concerts too! Ignoring you remember"LOL danie, hierdie is jou speletjies jong. Especially going back to the other thread, and we can see how the insults flowed from your lips freely. I myself, Im guilty of sarcasm.
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Danielrjvvuren
SinudeityYou want to be my friend? We insult the DA to be popular.
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ThirdEye
This is not sustainable.Report Abuse
online~Evangelist
Friends Dont be deceivedNO sexually impure soul will inherit Heaven, No HOMOSEXUAL shall inherit Heaven, Neither Thief shall, Even the religious will NOT, Nor Party animals.
UNLESS, We all REPENT and live according to what God calls righteous shall make it to the Father
Time is against us O'h lost sinner
time is against you o'h Wise-foolish man
time is againt you o'h My friend
where will you be in 100 years henceforth?? where will your soul be!!!
The preacher has spoken
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MommaC
online~EvangelistNo really now dude. Stop trying to hijack every comments string. You are worse than a blerrie Nigerian drug lord in a Hillbrow apartment block.
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Sinudeity_
Danielrjvvuren - "You want to be my friend?"Oh boy do I ever! *sarcasm*
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MommaC
DanielrjvvurenWe had a place down by Fairyglenn where they used to have a lot of young local bands. Some of those kids are really talented. Unfortunately, zoning laws got rid of it but it was always packed so it was not like it was a bad concept.
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online~Evangelist
fight not with me?jeer not at me?
Are the words that i speak wrong?
Are they not jotted down in the books?
The preacher asks...
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RobinH
Sin. Pick me! Pick me!!! I need a friend.Report Abuse
Danielrjvvuren
MommaCThis MK thing doesn't really help them hey? It seems that there are trends even within rock and the one band sounds as much alike as the next. There seems to be a new movement in DBN to bring back jazz lounges. A few has sprung up that sells some of the best food and plays amateur jazz. Not really a jazz fan, but it we need more places where artist can express themselves.
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A good friend is Jesus!He is the True shepperd, He laid His life down for lost man's soul such as us
If you can choose to befriend Him i submit to you Life will flow down into your life sometimes devoid of pleasure and true joy
Jesus said He is the resurrection and the Life
The preacher has spoken
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Out of all commentors, only you guys are are irritated by Mfundisi online~Evangelist statement:
It seems to me that you two knows something we don't & you want to be friends also...............
Immoral people are creating havoc in our society & that I agree with Mfundisi shouldn't be tolerated even in this platform.
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Danielrjvvuren
Bra_AEvidently we tolerate the blind too? Its me and MommaC? But yeah what ever floats your boat dude...
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DJ-Winner
What is new here? Complementary tickets have always been issued at Loftus and Lucas Moripe stadium during Sundowns and SSU matches. I've been given them since 2005...Report Abuse
RobinH
Daniel: The thing about "jazz lounges" is that they tend to lay on what I would like to refer to as "jazz muzak". That totally directionless wallpaper music the little reflects the notion of jazz as the music of freedom. Generally quite boring regurgitations of classics or else just meaningless decoration. Very little provision is made for the so-called avant-garde, and this is sad, as our country is rich in very sophisticated musicians and jazz-audiences who want more than KennyG or the like, or who want to think beyond African Jazz.Report Abuse
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Danielrjvvurencandilious
Ons noem dit braai biltong bier en betoging! hahah
________________________________hahahahahhahahahahhah nice 1
@Sin- howdy
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Papage
What is Crazy about it? it is called marketing, companies do that, they buy rugby and chricket tickets and distribute them to Falimies and friends of the big bosses and the real workers dont get to visit their companies suite at the stadium, so what is wrong if the manucipality market their product? it is good that those tickets are given to locals and not to big bossesReport Abuse
Danielrjvvuren
RobinHI never understood "educated jazz" and for a professional dancer not to understand music is scary. Its like an architect not comprehending a pencil, but I am with you there. There are many artist that I have heard that just do not see the light of day just because there is no market for them. My sisters friend is a violinist and my god can that man play but he gets nowhere because the style of music he makes is not termed popular.
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Sinudeity_
candilious - Howsit candi. Hope you enjoy the *** weather today :PReport Abuse
MommaC
DanielrjvvurenI can remember many a great evening at Rumours in Pta with good jazz and good wine :)
Joburg seems to be moving in on the niche markets now. They have coffee shops doing poetry evenings and 'theme' clubs. It is a lot different in Joeys though. A lot more people, a lot more money and no beach to distract anyone from going out.
The important part is that the stadium managers should think out of the box about who to market to. At the moment they are outside the box but pressed firmly against its sides. It is understandable as a fail is a big risk but, without a bit of risk, we would never progress
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candilious
@Sin -Yip every minute of it .......................@Robin -halooooooooo
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online~Evangelist
There is a freee Ticket to heavenJESUS, The only fare you pay is simply REPENTANCE from sinfulness (thats all)
I tell you, No Liar will be there, No homo will be there, no wizards will be there WHY: They refused to Repent
The preacher has commented_ Amen
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Danielrjvvuren
MommaCThe stadium has the potensial to become really great. We had the cricket agains India there and was that amazing the problem is no grass so the cricket is staying away. Again the seating isn't right for Rugby so in the end what is left to do but really up our soccer team and market them rather. Take all the money going to "subsidies" tickets and help the coaches and players get better known.
You will find more interior in Dbn becoming very almost Bohemian. Hillcrest kloof those places are making a k1lling by becoming very niche. Its nice that we are moving away from what is conventional
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Danielrjvvuren
online~EvangelistFree tickets to heaven?
If its given out by Computicket its the cheap seats dude don't take them!
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RobinH
Evangelist: Quick, phone Durban municipality and tell them about the special offer.Report Abuse
swona
ANC has brought us a unique dimension in leadership, are these people serious?Report Abuse
Danielrjvvuren
No Liar will be there, No homo will be there, no wizards will be there WHYWait wait wait... No wizard? No harry potter? Nope heaven is not for me then.....
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MommaC
DanielrjvvurenMust admit, I haven't been to Dubs in well over a decade. Durbs just doesn't like me. Either the car breaks down, the bags get stolen, my foot gets cut and goes septic or something equally irritating
What about weird stuff like cheer-leading competitions or drum majorette competitions or regional Karate finals .....?
I have no bloody clue if any of those would bring in money or crowds but it could be worth looking into
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MommaC
online~EvangelistJesus dude. You are like a broken record. Get a life, or a clue, or some medication
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online~Evangelist
its all fine to jest, HOWEVER the truth is Time is against you oh' poor soulREPENT of your SINS and be counted worthy so that there can be an allocation for you in that Heavenly stadium
ha ha ha
The preacher giggled
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Danielrjvvuren
MommaCWe did once have an entire dancing competition outside Durban City Hall. The big international dancing comps have floors the size of a soccer field so why not take advantage of the weather lay some hardwood on top of rigging and dance by stadium. There was a warm up match with Bafana that only cost R50 and that place was packed now tell me they didn't make at least a small profit out of that? Market events more. I don't know when any sports go's on there and it is sad.
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MommaConline~Evangelist
Jesus dude. You are like a broken record. Get a life, or a clue, or some medication
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ha....ha.....ha....ha....ha
i guess The Words are making real sounds in Your head hence the response. That is a good sign.
soon you will be on your knees REPENTING,
Praise The Lord Amen
The preacher is impressed
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Danielrjvvuren
online~EvangelistThe no Homo thing bothers me too... How will I be denied entry just because I like dudes? No wizards no dudes nah I'm fine in purgatory if thats ok?
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RobinH
Evangelist. With respect, this here "poor soul" is perfectly happy with his state of being. WHat kind of absurd logic is it that leads you to think that because we disagree with you your message is taking hold. Repenting for what? Living a decent life and treating all around me as decent humans? I am so glad you are impressed. It makes me feel all warm inside. Must be that smugness rubbing off.Report Abuse
RobinH
Daniel: Are you even surprised that this man is homophobic? It's par for the course for people like that who are so very right about everything because God says they are, but not a grain of reasoning to back it up.Report Abuse
RobinH
Evangelist, and quoting myths does not consitute either proof or reason. SO please, I don't want to know what TiTus 3 verse three says.Report Abuse
MommaC
DanielrjvvurenYea, dancing is hugely popular in SA - strangely enough, we don't hear about it very often.
Even if the ticket prices do nothing other than cover basic costs, it is still a lot more than if the stadium just stands collecting cobwebs. Marketing is the key ingredient. Talking of which, do you still have that monthly magazine which tells you all the stuff happening around Durban?
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candilious
@MommaC/ Robin /Daniel /SinYou guys have a lekke weekend im heading for some serious cooling off "Its Hot .........
Have a blessed weekend guys
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online~Evangelist
Fellow Humanstake time and understand that we are lost without God, we opened ourselve to all forms of spiritual abuses from the wicked fallen angel known as Devil. Be fooled not by his logic, for we shall stand before almighty and be accountable for our sins and that will be an automatic condemnation
Jesus is the only remedy to sinfulness.
Are the words that are written in Bible true or NOT?
The preacher asks....?
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Danielrjvvuren
RobinHMe too... Hahah I don't like the conventional gays as it stands. Why change and do that flapper thing? You're just a dude who likes dudes. I still like braai-ing and beer and rugby. haha but yes I understand your point. Jesus says nothing about homosexuality.
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Danielrjvvuren
candiliousBe good hey! F8ck it be naughty! hahah just be safe please no drink and driving and if anyone wants to do unscrupulous things to you kick him in the face.
MommaC
The people who published that whats on diary got absorbed by Caxton and we all know how caxton likes to run its affairs. Ass front first
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RobinH
ciao Candi. Thanks.Report Abuse
MommaC
online~EvangelistNot so lots hey. It is just the mosquito buzzing is getting in the way of a real debate about non mythical BS.
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RobinH
EVangelist: Stupid question. Obviously those to whom it is addressed will say they/we don't accept the Bible as a valid document in terms of "truth" - that tricky little word.Report Abuse
MommaC
candiliousIts my kinda weather - I'm loving it :)
Have a wonderful weekend, lovely lady.
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MommaC
DanielrjvvurenPity. It was a nice concept.
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online~Evangelist
Lets PrayFather, In heaven. Here are your people whom you Love perfectly, I ask you would open their eyes that they may see things as they are. I pray your expose their hearts to thmselves so that they may REPENT and be heaven bound through the blood of Jesus.
I bind foolishness, sexual impure spirit, homosexuality,greed, Lie, and Violence. i ask you would permeate their hearts oh' My father that they see The Truth.
Let conviction of sin surround them till their departure on earth.
Let Jesus and REPENTANCE be forever with them as they continue to live on this doomed planet.
God, let your mercy and Grace surround them, just like you did to me and other BORN agains.
In The name of Jesus, i pray
AMEN_ Have a great weekend
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RobinH
Evangelist. Take your homophobic obsession and go. Effing lunatic.Report Abuse
Ngwedane
At least they are giving back to the community.Report Abuse
Danielrjvvuren
online~EvangelistHave a great weekend too man! Don't sin now...
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online~Evangelist
Have a great time People of Great GodAmen! in Jesus Name: peace be with you
Father Robin: Dont forget to take your pills, God cares for you Just answer me, How old will you be in 100 years?
where will you be?
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Danielrjvvuren
online~EvangelistWhere will I be when I'm dead?
I'll be dead who gives a f*ck?
How old will I be in 100 years?
Too old to really care about age?
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RobinH
Evangelist> So nice to know. I will be dead and ashes strewn over the peninsula. End of story. Sorry man, lost my Lithium. Want to share yours? My age is none of your business. Here's a clue: Heard of Lazarus?Report Abuse
online~Evangelist
Thank you'si know the question made sense to thee....
off now! ( love you all)
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DA-DBN-GUY
Moses Mabhida is in my opinion the best stadium in the country, being from Durbs i am a bit biased, but the eThekwinin municipality never did their homework when the okayed the building of the stadium. They never thought of what to do with the stadium after the world cup and now the expect the Sharks to move across. Sharks were open to discusiions before the stadium was being built but were snubbed. The knew that the best supported soccer teams are in Jhb but still went ahead. The stadium is not suitable for watching rugby or cricket fixtures. As for bringing big name bands to Durbs, they dont get marketed as well in Durban as they do in JHB and CPT which is very sad indeed.The city made the decision to build the stadium amongst opposition from various parties and now they must live with it. I dont see why my tax money should be used to pay for the best unused stadium in SA
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Credo
All intellectuals, except the anc, knew that these stadiums would be white elephants after the soccer world cup.But what do the anc care about how they spend your taxes !!!!! As long as it is not for the poor !!!!!
Only idiots vote for the anc !!!!!!!
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