What happened to the this is not the time to point fingers? you failed the people working in the mines all over the country, you like doing damage control instead if prevent the tradegy if you had listen to the miners which is one of your weakest point listening to the poeple who put into power, this wouldn't had happened, the ANCLY under the leadership of Malema has been calling for better conditions of the miners but you ignore it cause it was coming from someone you dont like.. standing there and campaigning for the shower head in the expense of the poor miners that does not make you any better politician or better than Malema, it reveals how reactionary you are, all Zuma"s puppest are singing the same song re-election instead of solving the issues we are facing i guess October came ealier for all the Dictator's allies since you wont be charged for lobbying for him before nominations are opened... cry my beloved ANC Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Mgaraji
When Zuma addressed workers the day before, they also told him Malema was the first politician to come and address them.
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1st politician from which political party? Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
ntiki
Enouch you just showed the whole nation your stupidity. we thought you will come with solution instead your still talking kak while people are suffering. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Lungu
@Enoch Godongwana i don't know who sends you to try and expose your stupidity to the nation, clearly you have no idea what you said about Zuma not being affected as he is indeed in deep S*H*I*T, as for malema yes his political carear might be finished pending the outcomes of magaung but i bet you, you and zuma after mangaung you will be jailed. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
cornelius
One detects a hint of desperation here. To say Malema is finished is ( unfortunately )wishful thinking. He is admitting that there was a leadership vacuum and that Cosatu and NUM needed a wake up call - meaning he acknowledges that Malema ( albeit opportunistically) played a role in drawing attention to COSATU and NUM's failures. How can he then be finished ? The ANC and its allies must stop lyin.g to themselves. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
VENDALIOUS
@Mgaraji
When Zuma addressed workers the day before, they also told him Malema was the first politician to come and address them.
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1st politician from which political party?
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Mr. Godongwana made huge impact by saying 'Malema is finished', and this is true. Malema drunk his political career by his words, and now he is trying his luck to be a trade unionist, what a chance take he is? Most politicians started from the trade unionist and they become good politicians, not from politicians to trade unionist this show a downward graph for Malema. If i can code"Finish and klaar", they is no return from the dead. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
ThirdEye
I would never take serious a corrupt politician like Godongwana. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Moffdat
The balls on this guy(Malema) are made of steal i tell you.
@ VENDALIOUS & Mgaraji most miners are uneducated so they see malema as a politician or feel he is. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
fizo
Stupid NEC Member who thinks he knows something. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
cornelius
@Moffdat - Hitler also had balls of steel. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
sh!tFaceSamsung
we heard that long time ago from the heavy weight : the likes of zuma, mantashe, sdumo dlamini, manamela, mthembu, khoza anc spokes person, ramaphosa, Jeff radebe, anc womens league etc etc
mantashe even said malema without anc is nothing : but i were surprised last week sunday when he says malema hijacked marikana : how can u worry about someone who is finished including u Enoch Godongwana : why are u worried huh : what is itching u :
if malema is finished no need to worry : just keep ur filthy mouth shut Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
mbondo
These NUM people who're in the ANC are very confused. They always say Malema is finished and yet by naming his name they,re making him visible and strong. You cannot wish Malema away , he's there and a real threat to those who are in Zuma camp. This Godogwana is saying this while shaking in his boots because he knows the answer is in December. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
DJ-Winner
The only thing I like about Malema is that he opened a debate of nationalisation and land extrapropriation. I don't know about the other things he says... Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Nyongoyamavenda
Moffdat
The balls on this guy(Malema) are made of steal i tell you.
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sh!tFaceSamsung
"..............but i were surprised last week sunday when he says malema hijacked marikana ...................."
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Was there anything he made meaningful other than to bull Ministers around, all what we must do is to protect NUM members against these barbaric ppl, now they cant go back to work in fear of victimisation Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Moffdat
One mans freedom fighter is another mans... i'll let you finish it.
lungu, venda and Mga
Malema is still very much a politician if you ask me. Report Abuse
Nyongoyamavenda
Moffdat
The balls on this guy(Malema) are made of steal i tell you.
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but the brain is made of cement
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Your books can guide you but your heart defines you! Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
sh!tFaceSamsung
Enoch Godongwana
you are stupito man : intead of coming with altenative solution to marikana mines : come with senseless talk : let me ask u something have u been in hospital recently to see those people who some of them bones crashed by police vehicle Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Nyongoyamavenda
Moffdat
Nyongoyamavenda
Moffdat
The balls on this guy(Malema) are made of steal i tell you.
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but the brain is made of cement
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Your books can guide you but your heart defines you!
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can elaborate a little bit i am lost Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
MommaC
Enoch Godongwana, the man who stole from the pension fund of the textile industry? That Enoch Godongwana? Well I guess he knows all about public opinion and all that jazz. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Moffdat
Nyongoyamavenda
meant that you can be as educated as you want your heart(determination/hunger) defines you! Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Nwanawamukalaha
@Enoch Godongwana,
You ran out of the heating pot in Eastern Cape regarding the Canyon Springs company (owned by yout wife Thandiwe), which is accused of borrowing R93-million from Trilinear Capital, which manages provident funds for the SA Clothing and Textile Workers Union (Sactwu).
Godongwana's wife Thandiwe is a director of Canyon Springs, which was supposed to pay back the loan in three installments but failed to do so, leaving more than 15000 workers without pensions.
Who are you to protect JayZee at cde Malema's expense, can't Zooomer "Mr naked cartoon" defend himself? Mangaung is just around the corner and i know for a fact that, you are aware that the Marikana calamity has dampened "Double Diff's chances of being roped in for a second time.
How can you turn against the Eastern Cape memebers of the ANC by supporting the ever "coming in sheets" president whereas 30 of the 34 dead miners are from the EC, how can you? Thsi clearly confirms that you belong the faction which lost during the OR Tambo regional leadership voting.
BTW, you never made Malema and you'll never destroy or vapourise him.
Malema is no longer a politician....................... Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Tasto
@webteam,@ediotor nawe Mkabela - leave my posts alone let me say waht I want to say maar other bloggers have said it crystal-clear !!
P.S - Enoch where is the R100 million from the Clothing Union pension Fund?
Tell us abt the NUM leader who is currently earning R1.4 million per annum while the drillers are earning less than R60 000 per year !!
Leave JM alone, even when he is drunk “he does not dream to be president” !!
@DJ-Winner
Malema is also saying whites are thieves because they stole land from black people here in South Africa. Malema also say whites are rapists because they rape women who works for them in their kitchens. Malema also say whites are racist because they always all the time call black people filthy names. Malema also say whites in general are k illers because they shoot and k ill innocent black young children in farms across the country. Malema also say 99percent of black people's land is still in the hands of whites who happen to be a minority. Malema also say black farm workers are misused , abused, raped , humiliated , insulted and enslaved on a daily basis in farms across the country by whites. Mr Malema also says black people should unite, retaliate brutally, take back by force what belongs to them and restore their power and dignity. I Mbondo believe and agree with Mr Malema whole heartedly. That's what Mr Malema is saying. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Tsope'
Thanks Mr Godongwana for telling the truth the public has been yarning since this tragedy... Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
ModiseP
Zuma mission is to fight corruption and evaluate the prfomance of the lazy ministers.You fight corruption in this country,you won't agree terms with South African Hyenas.Lazy ministers and hyenas are the one who need Zuma out.I am praying Zuma Second term and economist Ramaphosa as Deputy.Zuma understand democracy for the people by the people and let down by lazy minister.Zuma suppose to account for the laziness of Ministers which is unfair.The very same lazy Ministers are the one who want Zuma out bacause they are not prepared to work. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Nyongoyamavenda
Moffdat
Nyongoyamavenda
meant that you can be as educated as you want your heart(determination/hunger) defines you!
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do you mean JUJU is hungry? Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
mbondo
@Tasto
Oh this wide mouth stole money from clothing union pension fund , well I did n't know that. Can you tell us more about this criminal Godogwana. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Mgaraji
Moffdat
One mans freedom fighter is another mans... i'll let you finish it.
lungu, venda and Mga
Malema is still very much a politician if you ask me.
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You are dodging my question: from which political party? Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Mogwapatholo
News papers Looove Malema, ANC leadership worries about him. Anyway Mr Enoch, Malema is weakening ANC by exposing ANC's faults and weaknesses that has been hidden to the public because you let a wild d*g loose.Tlogela go amusa batho ba bagolo tami. "The ANC towers over the individual" true, but maybe Malema towers over the entire ANC's current leadership. And if that is the case then ANC need new leadership, Malema excluded.
Secondly you are saying police killing ppl will not affect Zuma's re-election seriosly Mr Enoch. This reflect on the Minister which in turn report to The President oh or may be you did not look at it on that angle shame. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Another1
@Mgaraji, 1 doesn't need to be affiliated to a political party in order to be a politician, check your dictionery or you can even Google it, there's lots of explanations and none of them says you must be aligned with particular political party
pol·i·ti·cian/ˌpäləˈtiSHən/
Noun:
1.A person who is professionally involved in politics.
2.A person who acts in a manipulative and devious way, typically to gain advancement.
Malema did or still doing his degree in Political Science via Unisa, get it to your thick skull Mgaraji Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Tango
Papage
You should say ANC is finished, only monkeys will vote ANC come 2014 general elections, we are not stupid, if you dont change your Leadership and your corrupt officials, you may kiss Government good bye for ever. You guys wasted lot of time focusing on ANCYL and forgot to lead the country, so all of you can now fo"k' off.
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Aug 30, 2012
Nwanawamukalaha
Mgaraji
Moffdat
One mans freedom fighter is another mans... i'll let you finish it.
lungu, venda and Mga
Malema is still very much a politician if you ask me.
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You are dodging my question: from which political party?
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Are you implying that Malema is a political kwerekwere?
FYI, some people are born politicians and leaders............Desmond Tutu is one of them. He was never a member of a political party but is regarded as a politician of note. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
THEFFIE1
wena baby-brain ur the one whos finished coz u afraid of someone who isnt even a member of a single party. u right it wont affect Zuma but the whole lot opportunist u see on shower head's camp. since theres a rotten potato then it means u all rotten Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Nyongoyamavenda
ModiseP
Zuma mission is to fight corruption and evaluate the prfomance of the lazy ministers.You fight corruption in this country,you won't agree terms with South African Hyenas.Lazy ministers and hyenas are the one who need Zuma out.I am praying Zuma Second term and economist Ramaphosa as Deputy.Zuma understand democracy for the people by the people and let down by lazy minister.Zuma suppose to account for the laziness of Ministers which is unfair.The very same lazy Ministers are the one who want Zuma out bacause they are not prepared to work.
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you are so spot on ,i have never come near to such a truth on this blog Report Abuse
does being expelled by the ANC means you're not a politician ? so what is Malema ? a soccer player ? Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
MommaC
ModiseP
.... so why did Zuma appoint the "lazy Ministers' to start with? And does he intend to get rid of the 'lazy Ministers' who aren't trying to get rid of him? Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Nyongoyamavenda
MissBhakajuju
does being expelled by the ANC means you're not a politician ? so what is Malema ? a soccer player ?
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a political clone,albeit a fault one Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
MissBhakajuju
Infact, does being Bullyied by the Old dictactors mean that Malema is not a politician ? coz being expelled by the ANC is just temporaly, and he remains an ANC supporter..... otherwise he wouldn't be supporting Tokyo, Kgalema, Mbalula, etc...
these old good 4 nothing dictators, are playing Gay politics, they must go f. themselves..... oo Godongwana, Mantashe, Mthembu, must just leave politics....... Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Danielrjvvuren
Why is the ANC bothered by such trivial issues? Is there not bigger issues out there? So we can hold an entire seminar to expel someone but when it comes to the tough stuff no one really knows. You know ANC know one thing and that is how to waste time. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
DJ-Winner
@mbondo...One thing I like about Juju is that he is not afraid to talk about these things. People say no you must not talk about those things because you will make other races feel uncomfortable. Why were we abused even in the first place? Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Sinudeity_
DJ-Winner - Who's abusing who? Rhamaphosa on the board of the platinum mine where workers were shot. The unions leasing out buildings to the government. I see Rhamaphosa owns McDonalds South Africa too.
The blame white excuse is really wearing thin. Especially when its not even white people responsible for your mess. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
GrRRRpha
Nwanawamukalaha
@Enoch Godongwana,
You ran out of the heating pot in Eastern Cape regarding the Canyon Springs company (owned by yout wife Thandiwe), which is accused of borrowing R93-million from Trilinear Capital, which manages provident funds for the SA Clothing and Textile Workers Union (Sactwu).
Godongwana's wife Thandiwe is a director of Canyon Springs, which was supposed to pay back the loan in three installments but failed to do so, leaving more than 15000 workers without pensions.
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You on point. a corrupt person telling others are funished. He should be focusing on his pending case
Nwanawamukalaha
Mgaraji
Moffdat
One mans freedom fighter is another mans... i'll let you finish it.
lungu, venda and Mga
Malema is still very much a politician if you ask me.
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You are dodging my question: from which political party?
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Are you implying that Malema is a political kwerekwere?
FYI, some people are born politicians and leaders............Desmond Tutu is one of them. He was never a member of a political party but is regarded as a politician of note.
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Archbishop Desmond Tutu is a retired South African Anglican religious leader. Name the party of Sello Malema if he is a politition? If cant name the political party just shut up. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
cornelius
@mbondo - the accusations you make against whites is rubbish and dangerous lies. It is cleasr that you are a youngster who does not have his/her own knowledge, and believes the lies of Malema about these things. Yes, the whites took ( some ) land when they moved up from the Cape to the North, and yes, the apartheid erea was essentially racist.For that there is agreed redress. But you statements about rap.ing an kil.ling, is rubbish. A person who makes such wild and dangerous accusations must be able to back it up. So, please, give the details of the r.aping and ki.lling that you are talking about, or retraxct those accusations.
DJ Winner, you should be able to see that that is precisely why Malema is dangerous, because he leads youn guninformed and mostly uneducated bal.ck people to think like this.
I am waiting for the details mbondo - if none is forthcoming you will be regarded as a liar and coward, so please, let me have those details. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Sinudeity_
DJ-Winner = "So you say black people were never abused?"
Did I say black people were never abused? Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Sinudeity_
mbondo is merely a member of the "black panther communist youth league united front against sensibility". Just ignore his racial hatred, warmongering, propaganda and bull$h17. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
DJ-Winner
@cornelius...but some of the things he says are true, isn't? Regardless whether the reciever of the information is educated or not..... Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
BigPeezy
To be a politician you dnt have to belong to a political party...some people are naive period!!!! Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
californiaqueen
Juju will soon form his own Political Party and i suggest "Hullabaloo Barbaric Union" Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Nyongoyamavenda
MissBhakajuju
Infact, does being Bullyied by the Old dictactors mean that Malema is not a politician ? coz being expelled by the ANC is just temporaly, and he remains an ANC supporter..... otherwise he wouldn't be supporting Tokyo, Kgalema, Mbalula, etc...
these old good 4 nothing dictators, are playing Gay politics, they must go f. themselves..... oo Godongwana, Mantashe, Mthembu, must just leave politics.......
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who are the dictators ?its your juju,those guys were elected democratically,surport your factory fault but dont talk nonse** Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
californiaqueen
@MissBhakajuju
does being expelled by the ANC means you're not a politician ? so what is Malema ? a soccer player ?
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GOOD QUESTION!! Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Nyongoyamavenda
californiaqueen
@MissBhakajuju
does being expelled by the ANC means you're not a politician ? so what is Malema ? a soccer player ?
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GOOD QUESTION!!
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bad question,which party does he belong?he is a former politician Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Decibels
what a useless comrade.....are you telling me you went all the way to America to talk to investors about Malema?? We are sick of these old comrades in the ANC whose cheap souls belong to investors. Who are you to tell people they are finished.....if you want to talk about finished people why don't you talk about your wife?? Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Sinudeity_
Julius isnt a politician. He's a TENDERPRENEUR and a dirty thief. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
S'khaole
What a funny surname: Godongwana. This guy has no brains, he is campaining to save for his soul if Showerman man makes it in Mangaung. In fact it is the desperation tone of reactionary. Instead of addressing the problems and doing damage control, they have diverted their attention to a true leader in Malema. Malema refers to someone who plaughs or till the land- so if you plaugh the field or till the land, you meet weed of different kinds like Godong---- and Showerman which you should deal with roughly because they have thorns. Sa lona ke basadi mo, ge le eme le re balela dipitshi ka corruption mola le di dicorruption champions.
does being expelled by the ANC means you're not a politician ? so what is Malema ? a soccer player ?
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bad question,which party does he belong?he is a former politician
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I'VE had it ka Mavenda a brainless, what is former politician, what is he now, from which political party? its not the point i'm a politician from California alright I dont belong to any political Party in South Africa??? No! what does it make me? a Venda huh..... Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
BlackSeed
So those that do not have SA IDs are not SAcans?
I respect Julius Malema
Lofa thati’cover uMalema uyavela – eish, kaak spelling maar is oryt.
Julius isnt a politician. He's a TENDERPRENEUR and a dirty thief
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an angry brainwashed, AWB supporter !!! Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
manu.menne
Malema's strategies are recently alienating him and the trio and they strengthening JZ. ANCYL is headless. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Nyongoyamavenda
MissBhakajuju
Sinudeity_
Julius isnt a politician. He's a TENDERPRENEUR and a dirty thief
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an angry brainwashed, AWB supporter !!!
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at least one time i can agree with you 100% no amount of insult will undo the truth Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Nyongoyamavenda
californiaqueen
@Nyongoyamavenda
does being expelled by the ANC means you're not a politician ? so what is Malema ? a soccer player ?
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bad question,which party does he belong?he is a former politician
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I'VE had it ka Mavenda a brainless, what is former politician, what is he now, from which political party? its not the point i'm a politician from California alright I dont belong to any political Party in South Africa??? No! what does it make me? a Venda huh.....
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tjo you are such a fake no wonder you surpport juju Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Sinudeity_
MissBhakajuju - Better than being a fool that follows a false prophet around. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Nyongoyamavenda
MissBhakajuju
Sinudeity_
Julius isnt a politician. He's a TENDERPRENEUR and a dirty thief
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an angry brainwashed, AWB supporter !!!
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has he promised you some tenders of he is giving one one Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Letjatji
@all,u dont have to affiliate to any political party to be a politician and so is Mr Sello Malema.There are many people who are polotician but to subscribe to party polotics.example Dr Mamphela Ramphela,Desmond tutu and the famous Jesse Jackson also remember Martin Luther King jnr, was a religious political fellow.The problem here is the poor education that our government is dispensing and now people reason with no fact. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Decibels
californiaqueen
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LA all day everyday....California sunshine, California kush. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Sinudeity_
Nyongoyamavenda - So you admit julius is a tenderpreneur :P Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
cornelius
@ DJWinner and mbondo
OK, lets look at each allegation :
1. Stole black people's land.
a)That was 2 centuries ago, when colonization was the norm in the world - just like the Zulus also chased other tribes off their land in the Mfecane wars.
b)Does this apply in the Western Cape ?
c) Did the NP government not agree that their should be legal processes for land restitution ?
2. Rap.e women who work in the kitchen.
a) Give one single example if you can - there are none, it is a disgraceful lie.
b) Have no blac.k people been guilty of ra.pe, ever ?
3. Call filt.hy names
a) Some old die-hard AWB types maybe, but this is not a prevalent thing at all
b) The worst word is the " k - word" which means " hea.then". Do bl.ack people never call wh'ite people derogatory names ?
4. Kil.l innocent blac.k children on farm.s across the country.
a) I can think of one incidents, the " Skierlik" incident when a young whi.te boy lost his mind and went on a ramp.age. Please give details of any others, or apologise fo rthis horrend.ous li.e..
b ) Why do you not mention the many cases of white people helping bla.ck children, in NGO's, schools, welfasre projects, etc ?
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5. 99% of blac.k peoples land in the hands of whit.es
a) This is a li.e - ther most land is in the hands of the ( b.lack) government and even farm.s, I think something like 20 % has been transferred ito the land restitution legislation.
6. Farm workers ab.used... ra.ped... ensl.aved.
a) Even one example of this, especially the ra.pe please
MissBhakajuju - Better than being a fool that follows a false prophet around
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what is false about the following statements:
Mining Companies, exloit their workers.
SA needs a new Leadership.
We 'Blacks' need the economic freedom.
Point out just one, that is false, then we can decide who's the fool, that is brainwashed
Sinudeity_
Nyongoyamavenda - So you admit julius is a tenderpreneur :
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i have never seen a leader in julius even when he was srpporting Zuma the writing was on the wall Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Nyongoyamavenda
MissBhakajuju
Sinudeity_
MissBhakajuju - Better than being a fool that follows a false prophet around
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what is false about the following statements:
Mining Companies, exloit their workers.
SA needs a new Leadership.
We 'Blacks' need the economic freedom.
Point out just one, that is false, then we can decide who's the fool, that is brainwashed
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he says he is fighting for the poor when he is stealing from the poor,just one of many Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
mgambu
Yaane!! re buswa ke dicomedians hiso….”in fact one parliamentarian referred to them as “Empty Suites” and I think that’s the correct referencing she made.but heeyy!!we have got our self to blame. Look, from our president who has disgraced us from all sides, what do you expect from people who are surrounding him.. Damage is already done here from now on we just going down-hill here. Give him his 2nd term to just increase an angle to the current slope for a free-fall going down. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Sinudeity_
Nyongoyamavenda - And yet here you are defending the man. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Nyongoyamavenda
mgambu
Yaane!! re buswa ke dicomedians hiso….”in fact one parliamentarian referred to them as “Empty Suites” and I think that’s the correct referencing she made.but heeyy!!we have got our self to blame. Look, from our president who has disgraced us from all sides, what do you expect from people who are surrounding him.. Damage is already done here from now on we just going down-hill here. Give him his 2nd term to just increase an angle to the current slope for a free-fall going down
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dont be such an apologist man what damage? Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
MicaParis
Comrade Godongawana reasoned like a real comrade and nothing more I guess. As for Juju I agree with comrade Enoch, there is no resurrection back into the ANC, that is a honest reality. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Nyongoyamavenda
Sinudeity_
Nyongoyamavenda - And yet here you are defending the man
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wich man?i have never defended juju Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Sinudeity_
MissBhakajuju - ANC mining companies exploit their workers. Cyril sitting on the board of Lonmin. Zuma owning the Aurora mine.
"SA needs a new Leadership."
EVERYONE has been saying this. Even when Julius was running behind Zuma, threatening to k1ll for him. Already then, you were told that the ANC needs new leadership. Then you came up with the "Fight black" campaign, and look where we are now.
"We 'Blacks' need the economic freedom. "
Yeah, and you will NEVER get economic freedom unless you sort out education. 10,000 pupils cant go to school in NW province, because of protests. 3 schools buuurned down. An entire province not having textbooks for a year.
How do you wish to get economic freedom, if you cant read or write? You will forever be a blue collar worker, being exploited by anyone who is willing to pay you a salary for your 'skills'.
he says he is fighting for the poor when he is stealing from the poor,just one of many
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i think you also have a problem with a Black Diamond, wanting 2 shine.... so he's not suppose to drive a car ??
Just a Reminder!!!! Malema was persecuted by the ANC for realising that Zuma was the first class factory fault, together with crew of popeyes....
we all know that fighting 4 the poor is a cliche' in S.A, so rather not go there, as this will expose a number of Surnames.... Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
californiaqueen
@Nyongoyamavenda
Sinudeity_
Nyongoyamavenda - And yet here you are defending the man
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wich man?i have never defended juju
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you have verbal diarrhea, no wonder u contradict yourself Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Nyongoyamavenda
Sinudeity_
MissBhakajuju - ANC mining companies exploit their workers. Cyril sitting on the board of Lonmin. Zuma owning the Aurora mine.
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point of correction JZ doesnt own Aurora
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Then you came up with the "Fight black" campaign, and look where we are now.
why are you lying now its DA that came up with slogan
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How do you wish to get economic freedom, if you cant read or write? You will forever be a blue collar worker, being exploited by anyone who is willing to pay you a salary for your 'skills'.
Cos white capital is sitting on our land,mineral resources and money and are refusing to transform Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Nyongoyamavenda
californiaqueen
@Nyongoyamavenda
Sinudeity_
Nyongoyamavenda - And yet here you are defending the man
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wich man?i have never defended juju
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you have verbal diarrhea, no wonder u contradict yourself
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you have mental diarhea what contradiction you are jumping on the story you havnt dont understand Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
californiaqueen
@Nyongoyamavenda
you want lunch, you must be hungry come lets go Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Nyongoyamavenda
californiaqueen
Juju will soon form his own Political Party and i suggest "Hullabaloo Barbaric Union
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you started very nice what went wrong? Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
mgambu
@Nyongoyamavenda
I’m not apologetic at all...It just sad when you come to think of a type of a nation we are. Today I'm even scared to tell where I come from when I’m abroad to say I'm come from SA. It's really a shame of the types of things we tolerate here at home.
californiaqueen
@Nyongoyamavenda
you want lunch, you must be hungry come lets go
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tjo for free!!!,which lunch the food or...? Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
MissBhakajuju
Look @ everyone !!!!!
busy attacking & discussing Julius, what has Godongwana done for the people of S.A ????
will attacking Julius, employ people ???
where does the money, meant for business funds go to, coz we black enterpreneurs, never see it ???
All they do is running away from the main concerns, trying 2 get cheap publicity over nothing, shame on you ANC leadership, you should be proud of yourself, for making Julius Malema the main focus.
mgambu
@Nyongoyamavenda
I’m not apologetic at all...It just sad when you come to think of a type of a nation we are. Today I'm even scared to tell where I come from when I’m abroad to say I'm come from SA. It's really a shame of the types of things we tolerate here at home.
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what is it that makes you so shamefull my bra SA is doing very well
busy attacking & discussing Julius, what has Godongwana done for the people of S.A ????
will attacking Julius, employ people ???
where does the money, meant for business funds go to, coz we black enterpreneurs, never see it ???
All they do is running away from the main concerns, trying 2 get cheap publicity over nothing, shame on you ANC leadership, you should be proud of yourself, for making Julius Malema the main focus.
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tel me why do you surpport JUJU?
@Nyongoyamavenda
you want lunch, you must be hungry come lets go
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tjo for free!!!,which lunch the food or...?
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typical african man, you must be Venda to.....oops forgive me i mean a gettleman to decline an offer from a lady, so lunch can only be food you hear! Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Letjatji
Mr godongwana,zuma and others have a cloud of corruption over their head.The failing education system ,the massacre,unemployment,lack of services is just enough to take out zuma at mangaung.IF he wins at mangaung the citizens if this country should continue to have a denial to vote for DA.
Malema is an astute politician very ahead of zuma,He is currently at aurora mine and were is zuma in Botswana and not addressing problems we see at olifantfontein were children are not going to school for fourth month.Is this man clever or we r being ruled by an empty suit with shower on top. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
mgambu
@Nyongoyamavenda
Thanks where you wrong Bro!! All looks well because you looking from within.. look at the bigger picture and the read the signs Bro Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
GUERRILLA
ENOCH must be having HUNG OVER i bat my head on rail wae he wont sae that again (uphulukiwe) Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Nyongoyamavenda
MissBhakajuju
@Nyongoyamavenda
he says he is fighting for the poor when he is stealing from the poor,just one of many
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i think you also have a problem with a Black Diamond, wanting 2 shine.... so he's not suppose to drive a car ??
Just a Reminder!!!! Malema was persecuted by the ANC for realising that Zuma was the first class factory fault, together with crew of popeyes....
we all know that fighting 4 the poor is a cliche' in S.A, so rather not go there, as this will expose a number of Surnames
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Do you have to be corrupt in order to be a shining black diamond ,steal from the public serve,deprive the derseving cos you are political connected and yet claim you are fighting for them wht a foolishness**
Malema was not persucuted but was expelled for thinking that he is bigger than the anc Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Sinudeity_
Nyongoyamavenda - Meanwhile, those mining companies are paying half of their income towards taxes. That money then gets taken by government, and meant to be redistributed. But thats where the problem comes in. The money is going to corrupt politicians and greedy tenderpreneurs.
Anyways, its YOU that needs to transform. You need to realise that white businesses are creating employment. You need to realise that black businesses are exploiting their workers just as readily.
You need to realise that the money to be used for upliftment and distribution between the previously disenfranchised, were taken by the connected cadres, Cyril, Tokyo and Motstepes, who became instant billionares, but didnt want to share the money with you.
Blame lies squarly with you and your party my son.
Nyongoyamavenda
Sinudeity_
MissBhakajuju - ANC mining companies exploit their workers. Cyril sitting on the board of Lonmin. Zuma owning the Aurora mine.
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point of correction JZ doesnt own Aurora
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Then you came up with the "Fight black" campaign, and look where we are now.
why are you lying now its DA that came up with slogan
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How do you wish to get economic freedom, if you cant read or write? You will forever be a blue collar worker, being exploited by anyone who is willing to pay you a salary for your 'skills'.
Cos white capital is sitting on our land,mineral resources and money and are refusing to transform
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You mean white capital is the only thing actually making the money. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Nyongoyamavenda
mgambu
@Nyongoyamavenda
Thanks where you wrong Bro!! All looks well because you looking from within.. look at the bigger picture and the read the signs Bro
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Pen them down my bro cos foe me SA is doing even better than European countries so i am lost Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Sinudeity_
Nyongoyamavenda - No were not. In fact, per capita, our GDP is only the 3rd highest country in Africa. As for Europe, they are still doing better than us. 25% unemployment vs 8% unemployment. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Nyongoyamavenda
Sinudeity_
Anyways, its YOU that needs to transform. You need to realise that white businesses are creating employment. You need to realise that black businesses are exploiting their workers just as readily.
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thats where you are wrong whites capital has never come on board,no money made through exploiting blacks was ever taken from white capital,it is still in the whites hands as we speak
always running fro the truth Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Sinudeity_
Nyongoyamavenda - "thats where you are wrong whites capital has never come on board,"
Come on my son. You are merely spreading your anti-white k2K now. Rather put your money where your mouth is, and give us some examples of these 'companies'.
Meanwhile, I can give you an example of a BLACK CAPITAL company that exploits its workers. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Nyongoyamavenda
Sinudeity_
Nyongoyamavenda - No were not. In fact, per capita, our GDP is only the 3rd highest country in Africa. As for Europe, they are still doing better than us. 25% unemployment vs 8% unemployment
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no we are no1 in Africa, Europe is strugling (Spain and Greece) and they threatning to pull the worl back to reccessin,unemplyment is the product of Aprtheid ,that s why 90% of the unemployed are blacks Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
NDA
Whenever there is a problem they will focus on Malema not the problem, He is really shaking them hard. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Nyongoyamavenda
Sinudeity_
Nyongoyamavenda - "thats where you are wrong whites capital has never come on board,"
Come on my son. You are merely spreading your anti-white k2K now. Rather put your money where your mouth is, and give us some examples of these 'companies'.
Meanwhile, I can give you an example of a BLACK CAPITAL company that exploits its workers.
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90% of JSE listed companies is the hands of whites
i dont hate whites i am just telling the truth Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Commentor
Why do people still bring up Malema.I thought that he has gone back to school to get a proper education. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Nyongoyamavenda
The-Rothschilds
Nyongoyamavenda
You mean white capital is the only thing actually making the money
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white capital took everything from black man i mean every thing Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Nyongoyamavenda
californiaqueen
@Nyongoyamavenda
you want lunch, you must be hungry come lets go
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tjo for free!!!,which lunch the food or...?
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typical african man, you must be Venda to.....oops forgive me i mean a gettleman to decline an offer from a lady, so lunch can only be food you hear!
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one lady aproach me for a free lunch when i thought about food she taleked about blow job,so dont assume ask
Nyongoyamavenda - "90% of JSE listed companies is the hands of whites"
Eh, and where is your proof my son?
"no we are no1 in Africa, Europe is strugling (Spain and Greece) and they threatning to pull the worl back to reccessin,unemplyment is the product of Aprtheid"
No, we are not Nr 1 in Africa:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_per_capita
Spain and Greece are small economies. The EU will sooner kick spain/greece out of the EU, then allow them to drag the rest of the continent down with them. The rest of Europe is showing a HIGHER predicted GDP grwoth than South Africa. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
cornelius
@ Nyongoyamavenda
You must please report our newspapers to the ombudsman, because according to you all these business news stories we read about on a weekly basis about BEE deals must be lies. It must also be lie that Sexwale want to sell his ABSA stake, because according to you he never got one .
I think you must maybe refer us to a large corporation that has been started up by bl.ack people themselves, or is it the idea that b'ac.ks must only take, not do anything themselves. You have heard how the Afrik,aners started Sanlam, Volkskas, etc, to escape from the economic pressure they were under from the British ? Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Sinudeity_
Nyongoyamavenda - "white capital took everything from black man i mean every thing"
Eh, meanwhile, the only example we have of BLACK CAPITAL taking everything from the black man is Aurora. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Nyongoyamavenda
californiaqueen
@Nyongoyamavenda
why are you so tribalistic,you sad that apartheid is gone ne, Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
MicaParis
@MissBhakajuju
Look @ everyone !!!!!
busy attacking & discussing Julius, what has Godongwana done for the people of S.A ????
will attacking Julius, employ people ???
where does the money, meant for business funds go to, coz we black enterpreneurs, never see it ???
All they do is running away from the main concerns, trying 2 get cheap publicity over nothing, shame on you ANC leadership, you should be proud of yourself, for making Julius Malema the main focus.
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I respect your freedom of expression but honestly does Julius need any introduction on moral and human compass for any convenient and compassionate reasoning!?
If I may ask, for ''who and what for'' does really Juju doing that for!? Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Nyongoyamavenda
cornelius
@ Nyongoyamavenda
You must please report our newspapers to the ombudsman, because according to you all these business news stories we read about on a weekly basis about BEE deals must be lies. It must also be lie that Sexwale want to sell his ABSA stake, because according to you he never got one .
I think you must maybe refer us to a large corporation that has been started up by bl.ack people themselves, or is it the idea that b'ac.ks must only take, not do anything themselves. You have heard how the Afrik,aners started Sanlam, Volkskas, etc, to escape from the economic pressure they were under from the British
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Aug 30, 2012
Cabral67
All those who have doubts that Julius is a politician go and get some change from your high school history teachers. Politicians do not have to belong to a particular party . Have you ever heard of independent candidates - these people do not belong to a party but they are still politicians. My friends that is high school history not even political science 101. Your hate for the man must cloud you from stating the facts. You will know that the very ANC was not a political party until it registered as one according to the IEC act and voted into the National Assembly in 1994 but uTat' OR was politician as well was Cde Chris Hani Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Flemza
I truely agree with this Enoch Godongwana guy , Malema is finished its over Malema if I were you , you would take my advise , just join Cope
Yes, i agree with Enoch Godongwana 100%, Malema is finished and Klaar. His biggest mistake is to think that everyone who is against Zuma is therefore his friend. He fails to understand that there are those who want Motlanthe to replace Zuma but not for the same reasons as him. Mangaung is going to shock a lot of people. I know that most of Malema's supporters think Zuma's loss means Malema's automatic reinstatement, and i can promise you they will be shocked. Zuma can go on to lose but Malema must forget about coming back. My point is driven by the fact that Zuma has his own supporters in the ANC, the same supporters who don't want to see Malema comming back, again Motlanthe has his own supporters who are made up of those who want him to replace Zuma but do not want Malema to come back, together with those who want to see Malema comming back. Remember that Malema's reinstatement will be decided by deligates, not the new leadership that is going to be elected there. If you look, you will realise that the numbers that support Zuma together with the numbers that want Motlanthe but don't want Malema, will murge and that is going to pose a serious problem for Malema's attempts to come back. That is why i am so convinced that Malema's future in politics is finished because it is not going to be decided by Zuma's loss. It's a pity that those who love Malema so much ignore this reality and by the time it heats on them, they will be shocked. So far it's only some members of the ANCYL who are making noise about Malema's return to the ANC, supported by Winnie Mandela, and proberbly Fikile Mbalula who is believed to be his close friend, however, other leaders are non commital and that should serve as a warning to Malema that he is counting his chickens before the eggs are hatched. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
WarrenG
It's NOT Jacobs fault these guys got shot. Maybe Police commissioner??? But the miners arrived at the protest armed and ready to fight, so they must be prepared to die. They came with guns, machetes, spears and knobkerries. They didn't want to protest peacefully thats for sure!!!
As for Malema...he keeps rearing his ugly fat little jelly baby face. Time he gets taken care of..wink wink nudge nudge ;-) know what I mean...bullet for the jelly baby... Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
ManoftheSoil
Sinudeity_ You are the most stupid and brainless blogger, how can you compare RSA to Europe as a whole, did they have centuries of racist colonialist and apartheid regime, you are such a liar boikie, in general.
I agree, miners are not educated so they think Malema is God with Doctorate from University of Stellenbosch. It is a pity struu. If they won't be carefull they are going to loose their jobs and he wont do anything to confront Lonmin management. He is just lieing to them that there are lawyers who are intending to help them, he just want them to belive him. who can work for nothing . who is going to pay that lawyers. He was dead now the tragedy awoke him up. sies. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
ManoftheSoil
cornelius - I think the ANC and govt have been too nice on your likes, hence you talk like this with racist tendencies,its time to go hard so they they all go back home, whereever they came from...Europe or Pacific Ocean couldnt care...
ManoftheSoil - "how can you compare RSA to Europe as a whole"
Why dont you ask Nyongoyamavenda why he compared RSA to Europe? Was just putting his facts straight.
"did they have centuries of racist colonialist and apartheid regime, you are such a liar boikie, in general."
LOL, being called a liar by ignorant morons is not something new :P No, but they did have countless wars, including 2 world wars. The black plague, the industrial revolution etc. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Letjatji
@Manofthesoil
@sunideity
U r right is unfair to compare eroupe with the RSA bcos they bare many countries.The indications are that europe will be stagnant economically but Germany and France might still realize a high GDP.
Reality today in economic world is that Brics countries will grow at a high pace with china overtaking USA as an economic power.unfortunately south africa will grow less but it will benefit a lot as a gateway to africa with companies like massmart making RSA a head office of africa. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Sinudeity_
Letjatji - Thats not a reality dude. Ch1na's economic growth is busy slowing down. They will probably enter their own recession one of these days.
The US economy is still DOUBLE the size of the Ch1nese economy.
But one important thing to notice, is that the US and Ch1na are VERY reliant on one another. Without the US, Ch1na would be nothing economically. And without Ch1na, US would also be nowhere economically. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Letjatji
Manofthesoil sinudeity is right.There was divisions in europe until the romans took over.There was the spartans barbarians and many groupings that ruled europe over time.Some europeans were enslaved by their own.There was anarchy ,hunger and wars.Apartheid was not based on race but tribes were people will be of lower class if they belong to certain tribe and will only do jobs which are of low class.The same system occurs in india today but without violence.There is enough evidence that indicate that it also happened in africa amongst africans themselves and among arab africans and africans.There is a tribe called Nubians in the Africa mahgreb,last time i heard of them they were in mali few weeks ago destroying tmbactuh,their history well document slavery in africa but most popular is in the bible egyptians and israelites.
We can not cry forever bcos of apartheid we should go on as a country weather black or white.The europeans became powerful in the years called the Renaissance which simply mean the birth of science during the times of Galileo gallillei.Because people were killing each other the gallean people discovered gunpowder and make guns and other civilization.Africans and arabs never discovered powder and that is why we were defeated and taken forgranted by europeans.My point is all happened and cant be erased we should go on to improve our lives than crying apartheid like zuma blaming it for nondelevry of books. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Bebesocs
Godongwana sit down, you are a liar a corrupt confused desperate thief. Remember those mnies that went missing, we are not stupid to listen to you.
Go and do mouthcare. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Letjatji
@sinudeity
I dont agree,predict says 6 t0 10 years china will b a superpower.The american economy is currently 30 percent richer than china.The fact is since 1990 china economy was growing at 12%.Last year it grew by 9.5% and just this quarte it grew buy 7.9%.The american economy was growing at 7% since 1990 and 2010 recessed until now when u get quarters differing.it can actually grew by 3 % this year Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Sinudeity_
Letjatji - Perhaps, but China's GDP growth is slowing now. They could have overtaken the US if they proceeded along their initial strong GDP growth. US economy will recover. On top of that, China has been fixing its currency outside of external influence to favour its importing and exporting game. This is not sustainable. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Sinudeity_
The longer-term trend shows that the United States grew by the equivalent of the entire Ch1nese economy in the past decade. Ch1na's population has a per capita GDP—the average Ch1nese citizen's share of the country's overall economy—of about $4,300 (94th globally) compared to $47,100 for the average American. Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
somaartakeit
@Bebesocs
Godongwana sit down, you are a liar a corrupt confused desperate thief. Remember those mnies that went missing, we are not stupid to listen to you.
Go and do mouthcare.
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especially given that he arrogantly said he didn't struggle to be poor and helped himself out of the pensions of the workers this anc fat cat, so echo your calls for him to sit the EF down already! Report Abuse
Aug 30, 2012
Nyongoyamavenda
Somaartakeit
Yuo are such a liar, the words we didnt strugle to be poor came from Smuts Ngonyama
i can see the last kicks of a dying horse dying a painful death juju Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
hecticstuff
Oh Modimo wa kgotso!!! People like Gondongwana should be hauled before the disciplinary committee of the ANC for the pronouncements on succession matters long before October, just to show consistency and impartiality. What is good for the goose must be good for the others. I am totally worried about these "tendencies" as shown by the "leadership" of the ANC. Why are they quiet when such pronouncements are made in favour of the incumbent "leader", and make of noise when said about the others.
Goatee, suspend Gondongwana and his ilk!!!!!!!!!!! Report Abuse
I wonder if most people here are members of the ANC, and they are so convienced that Mangaung wil be the downfall of JZ. Only members of the ANC who are in good standing can only determine that. Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
Pitso.MCCMA.SAFA
Whoever convincing himself that Malema is finished,HE IS THE ONE FUNISHED.YOU CANNOT FINISH JUJU,BUT ANYWAY IS POSSIBLE TO FINISH ZUMA Report Abuse
Aug 31, 2012
Mfuraz
South Africans are ridiculous.Citizens are directionless.We always fail to see things as they are(blame game).How can Zuma be directly blamed for something that has to do with the SAPS.Malema is hypocrite and some people cannot see through him(the same guy who does whatever he wants(abusing his power),who backed Zuma not so long ago and was in the ANC).Bare in mind that he is also being investigated,but people will see him as a saint but not as the opportunist he really is(snake).
This "anyone but Zuma" thing is ridiculous and proves that there is no direction.How can you just choose "anyone"
That "anyone" could be
*exactly like Zuma.
*even worse than Zuma.
*a Malema Puppet,which Zuma didn't want to be.
*another raw deal.
I smell sabotage,even blind eyes can see it.why all this caos just before Mangaung. Report Abuse
Sep 1, 2012
skwamasamabele
Msholozi will rule, Malema, in the the dustbin of dinasaur history, like Sinudeity Report Abuse
Sep 3, 2012
tsustarpoor
Workers are in prison! others are dying of hanger. Families have sleepless nights as they love ones have been locked up. 44 poeple are dead. Worker are still going on strike! What is the gorvenment doing about all this contraventions. haa..haaa.haaa.....inadequate and improper leadership. Lack of skill. They Marikana maccar won`t affective election? They just fulling themself. And MALEMA IS NOT FINISH. JUST WAIT AND SEE!!!!!!!! Report Abuse
Sep 3, 2012
Motho-Makhetha
What is it with banks asking disgraced thieves of opinions. Enoch should be going to jail not commenting on issues! common thief!
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LostGuy
What happened to the this is not the time to point fingers? you failed the people working in the mines all over the country, you like doing damage control instead if prevent the tradegy if you had listen to the miners which is one of your weakest point listening to the poeple who put into power, this wouldn't had happened, the ANCLY under the leadership of Malema has been calling for better conditions of the miners but you ignore it cause it was coming from someone you dont like.. standing there and campaigning for the shower head in the expense of the poor miners that does not make you any better politician or better than Malema, it reveals how reactionary you are, all Zuma"s puppest are singing the same song re-election instead of solving the issues we are facing i guess October came ealier for all the Dictator's allies since you wont be charged for lobbying for him before nominations are opened... cry my beloved ANCReport Abuse
Mgaraji
When Zuma addressed workers the day before, they also told him Malema was the first politician to come and address them.____________________________________________
1st politician from which political party?
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ntiki
Enouch you just showed the whole nation your stupidity. we thought you will come with solution instead your still talking kak while people are suffering.Report Abuse
Lungu
@Enoch Godongwana i don't know who sends you to try and expose your stupidity to the nation, clearly you have no idea what you said about Zuma not being affected as he is indeed in deep S*H*I*T, as for malema yes his political carear might be finished pending the outcomes of magaung but i bet you, you and zuma after mangaung you will be jailed.Report Abuse
cornelius
One detects a hint of desperation here. To say Malema is finished is ( unfortunately )wishful thinking. He is admitting that there was a leadership vacuum and that Cosatu and NUM needed a wake up call - meaning he acknowledges that Malema ( albeit opportunistically) played a role in drawing attention to COSATU and NUM's failures. How can he then be finished ? The ANC and its allies must stop lyin.g to themselves.Report Abuse
VENDALIOUS
@MgarajiWhen Zuma addressed workers the day before, they also told him Malema was the first politician to come and address them.
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1st politician from which political party?
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Good question
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Papgat
Mr. Godongwana made huge impact by saying 'Malema is finished', and this is true. Malema drunk his political career by his words, and now he is trying his luck to be a trade unionist, what a chance take he is? Most politicians started from the trade unionist and they become good politicians, not from politicians to trade unionist this show a downward graph for Malema. If i can code"Finish and klaar", they is no return from the dead.Report Abuse
ThirdEye
I would never take serious a corrupt politician like Godongwana.Report Abuse
Moffdat
The balls on this guy(Malema) are made of steal i tell you.Report Abuse
Lungu
@ VENDALIOUS & Mgaraji most miners are uneducated so they see malema as a politician or feel he is.Report Abuse
fizo
Stupid NEC Member who thinks he knows something.Report Abuse
cornelius
@Moffdat - Hitler also had balls of steel.Report Abuse
sh!tFaceSamsung
we heard that long time ago from the heavy weight : the likes of zuma, mantashe, sdumo dlamini, manamela, mthembu, khoza anc spokes person, ramaphosa, Jeff radebe, anc womens league etc etcmantashe even said malema without anc is nothing : but i were surprised last week sunday when he says malema hijacked marikana : how can u worry about someone who is finished including u Enoch Godongwana : why are u worried huh : what is itching u :
if malema is finished no need to worry : just keep ur filthy mouth shut
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mbondo
These NUM people who're in the ANC are very confused. They always say Malema is finished and yet by naming his name they,re making him visible and strong. You cannot wish Malema away , he's there and a real threat to those who are in Zuma camp. This Godogwana is saying this while shaking in his boots because he knows the answer is in December.Report Abuse
DJ-Winner
The only thing I like about Malema is that he opened a debate of nationalisation and land extrapropriation. I don't know about the other things he says...Report Abuse
Nyongoyamavenda
MoffdatThe balls on this guy(Malema) are made of steal i tell you.
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but the brain is made of cement
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Dandan
sh!tFaceSamsung"..............but i were surprised last week sunday when he says malema hijacked marikana ...................."
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Was there anything he made meaningful other than to bull Ministers around, all what we must do is to protect NUM members against these barbaric ppl, now they cant go back to work in fear of victimisation
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Moffdat
One mans freedom fighter is another mans... i'll let you finish it.lungu, venda and Mga
Malema is still very much a politician if you ask me.
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lidodaduvha11
ur furnishedReport Abuse
Moffdat
NyongoyamavendaMoffdat
The balls on this guy(Malema) are made of steal i tell you.
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but the brain is made of cement
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Your books can guide you but your heart defines you!
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sh!tFaceSamsung
Enoch Godongwanayou are stupito man : intead of coming with altenative solution to marikana mines : come with senseless talk : let me ask u something have u been in hospital recently to see those people who some of them bones crashed by police vehicle
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MoffdatNyongoyamavenda
Moffdat
The balls on this guy(Malema) are made of steal i tell you.
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but the brain is made of cement
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Your books can guide you but your heart defines you!
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can elaborate a little bit i am lost
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MommaC
Enoch Godongwana, the man who stole from the pension fund of the textile industry? That Enoch Godongwana? Well I guess he knows all about public opinion and all that jazz.Report Abuse
Moffdat
Nyongoyamavendameant that you can be as educated as you want your heart(determination/hunger) defines you!
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Nwanawamukalaha
@Enoch Godongwana,You ran out of the heating pot in Eastern Cape regarding the Canyon Springs company (owned by yout wife Thandiwe), which is accused of borrowing R93-million from Trilinear Capital, which manages provident funds for the SA Clothing and Textile Workers Union (Sactwu).
Godongwana's wife Thandiwe is a director of Canyon Springs, which was supposed to pay back the loan in three installments but failed to do so, leaving more than 15000 workers without pensions.
Who are you to protect JayZee at cde Malema's expense, can't Zooomer "Mr naked cartoon" defend himself? Mangaung is just around the corner and i know for a fact that, you are aware that the Marikana calamity has dampened "Double Diff's chances of being roped in for a second time.
How can you turn against the Eastern Cape memebers of the ANC by supporting the ever "coming in sheets" president whereas 30 of the 34 dead miners are from the EC, how can you? Thsi clearly confirms that you belong the faction which lost during the OR Tambo regional leadership voting.
BTW, you never made Malema and you'll never destroy or vapourise him.
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Lehido
Malema is no longer a politician.......................Report Abuse
Tasto
@webteam,@ediotor nawe Mkabela - leave my posts alone let me say waht I want to say maar other bloggers have said it crystal-clear !!P.S - Enoch where is the R100 million from the Clothing Union pension Fund?
Tell us abt the NUM leader who is currently earning R1.4 million per annum while the drillers are earning less than R60 000 per year !!
Leave JM alone, even when he is drunk “he does not dream to be president” !!
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mbondo
@DJ-WinnerMalema is also saying whites are thieves because they stole land from black people here in South Africa. Malema also say whites are rapists because they rape women who works for them in their kitchens. Malema also say whites are racist because they always all the time call black people filthy names. Malema also say whites in general are k illers because they shoot and k ill innocent black young children in farms across the country. Malema also say 99percent of black people's land is still in the hands of whites who happen to be a minority. Malema also say black farm workers are misused , abused, raped , humiliated , insulted and enslaved on a daily basis in farms across the country by whites. Mr Malema also says black people should unite, retaliate brutally, take back by force what belongs to them and restore their power and dignity. I Mbondo believe and agree with Mr Malema whole heartedly. That's what Mr Malema is saying.
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Tsope'
Thanks Mr Godongwana for telling the truth the public has been yarning since this tragedy...Report Abuse
ModiseP
Zuma mission is to fight corruption and evaluate the prfomance of the lazy ministers.You fight corruption in this country,you won't agree terms with South African Hyenas.Lazy ministers and hyenas are the one who need Zuma out.I am praying Zuma Second term and economist Ramaphosa as Deputy.Zuma understand democracy for the people by the people and let down by lazy minister.Zuma suppose to account for the laziness of Ministers which is unfair.The very same lazy Ministers are the one who want Zuma out bacause they are not prepared to work.Report Abuse
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MoffdatNyongoyamavenda
meant that you can be as educated as you want your heart(determination/hunger) defines you!
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do you mean JUJU is hungry?
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mbondo
@TastoOh this wide mouth stole money from clothing union pension fund , well I did n't know that. Can you tell us more about this criminal Godogwana.
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Mgaraji
MoffdatOne mans freedom fighter is another mans... i'll let you finish it.
lungu, venda and Mga
Malema is still very much a politician if you ask me.
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You are dodging my question: from which political party?
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Mogwapatholo
News papers Looove Malema, ANC leadership worries about him. Anyway Mr Enoch, Malema is weakening ANC by exposing ANC's faults and weaknesses that has been hidden to the public because you let a wild d*g loose.Tlogela go amusa batho ba bagolo tami. "The ANC towers over the individual" true, but maybe Malema towers over the entire ANC's current leadership. And if that is the case then ANC need new leadership, Malema excluded.Secondly you are saying police killing ppl will not affect Zuma's re-election seriosly Mr Enoch. This reflect on the Minister which in turn report to The President oh or may be you did not look at it on that angle shame.
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Another1
@Mgaraji, 1 doesn't need to be affiliated to a political party in order to be a politician, check your dictionery or you can even Google it, there's lots of explanations and none of them says you must be aligned with particular political partypol·i·ti·cian/ˌpäləˈtiSHən/
Noun:
1.A person who is professionally involved in politics.
2.A person who acts in a manipulative and devious way, typically to gain advancement.
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Another1
Malema did or still doing his degree in Political Science via Unisa, get it to your thick skull MgarajiReport Abuse
Tango
PapageYou should say ANC is finished, only monkeys will vote ANC come 2014 general elections, we are not stupid, if you dont change your Leadership and your corrupt officials, you may kiss Government good bye for ever. You guys wasted lot of time focusing on ANCYL and forgot to lead the country, so all of you can now fo"k' off.
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MgarajiMoffdat
One mans freedom fighter is another mans... i'll let you finish it.
lungu, venda and Mga
Malema is still very much a politician if you ask me.
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You are dodging my question: from which political party?
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Are you implying that Malema is a political kwerekwere?
FYI, some people are born politicians and leaders............Desmond Tutu is one of them. He was never a member of a political party but is regarded as a politician of note.
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THEFFIE1
wena baby-brain ur the one whos finished coz u afraid of someone who isnt even a member of a single party. u right it wont affect Zuma but the whole lot opportunist u see on shower head's camp. since theres a rotten potato then it means u all rottenReport Abuse
Nyongoyamavenda
ModisePZuma mission is to fight corruption and evaluate the prfomance of the lazy ministers.You fight corruption in this country,you won't agree terms with South African Hyenas.Lazy ministers and hyenas are the one who need Zuma out.I am praying Zuma Second term and economist Ramaphosa as Deputy.Zuma understand democracy for the people by the people and let down by lazy minister.Zuma suppose to account for the laziness of Ministers which is unfair.The very same lazy Ministers are the one who want Zuma out bacause they are not prepared to work.
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you are so spot on ,i have never come near to such a truth on this blog
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100%Boer
Wa gafa GodongwanaReport Abuse
MissBhakajuju
does being expelled by the ANC means you're not a politician ? so what is Malema ? a soccer player ?Report Abuse
MommaC
ModiseP.... so why did Zuma appoint the "lazy Ministers' to start with? And does he intend to get rid of the 'lazy Ministers' who aren't trying to get rid of him?
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Nyongoyamavenda
MissBhakajujudoes being expelled by the ANC means you're not a politician ? so what is Malema ? a soccer player ?
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a political clone,albeit a fault one
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MissBhakajuju
Infact, does being Bullyied by the Old dictactors mean that Malema is not a politician ? coz being expelled by the ANC is just temporaly, and he remains an ANC supporter..... otherwise he wouldn't be supporting Tokyo, Kgalema, Mbalula, etc...these old good 4 nothing dictators, are playing Gay politics, they must go f. themselves..... oo Godongwana, Mantashe, Mthembu, must just leave politics.......
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Danielrjvvuren
Why is the ANC bothered by such trivial issues? Is there not bigger issues out there? So we can hold an entire seminar to expel someone but when it comes to the tough stuff no one really knows. You know ANC know one thing and that is how to waste time.Report Abuse
DJ-Winner
@mbondo...One thing I like about Juju is that he is not afraid to talk about these things. People say no you must not talk about those things because you will make other races feel uncomfortable. Why were we abused even in the first place?Report Abuse
Sinudeity_
DJ-Winner - Who's abusing who? Rhamaphosa on the board of the platinum mine where workers were shot. The unions leasing out buildings to the government. I see Rhamaphosa owns McDonalds South Africa too.The blame white excuse is really wearing thin. Especially when its not even white people responsible for your mess.
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GrRRRpha
Nwanawamukalaha@Enoch Godongwana,
You ran out of the heating pot in Eastern Cape regarding the Canyon Springs company (owned by yout wife Thandiwe), which is accused of borrowing R93-million from Trilinear Capital, which manages provident funds for the SA Clothing and Textile Workers Union (Sactwu).
Godongwana's wife Thandiwe is a director of Canyon Springs, which was supposed to pay back the loan in three installments but failed to do so, leaving more than 15000 workers without pensions.
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You on point. a corrupt person telling others are funished. He should be focusing on his pending case
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@Sinudeity_.....So you say black people were never abused?Report Abuse
Mgaraji
NwanawamukalahaMgaraji
Moffdat
One mans freedom fighter is another mans... i'll let you finish it.
lungu, venda and Mga
Malema is still very much a politician if you ask me.
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Are you implying that Malema is a political kwerekwere?
FYI, some people are born politicians and leaders............Desmond Tutu is one of them. He was never a member of a political party but is regarded as a politician of note.
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Archbishop Desmond Tutu is a retired South African Anglican religious leader. Name the party of Sello Malema if he is a politition? If cant name the political party just shut up.
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cornelius
@mbondo - the accusations you make against whites is rubbish and dangerous lies. It is cleasr that you are a youngster who does not have his/her own knowledge, and believes the lies of Malema about these things. Yes, the whites took ( some ) land when they moved up from the Cape to the North, and yes, the apartheid erea was essentially racist.For that there is agreed redress. But you statements about rap.ing an kil.ling, is rubbish. A person who makes such wild and dangerous accusations must be able to back it up. So, please, give the details of the r.aping and ki.lling that you are talking about, or retraxct those accusations.DJ Winner, you should be able to see that that is precisely why Malema is dangerous, because he leads youn guninformed and mostly uneducated bal.ck people to think like this.
I am waiting for the details mbondo - if none is forthcoming you will be regarded as a liar and coward, so please, let me have those details.
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Sinudeity_
DJ-Winner = "So you say black people were never abused?"Did I say black people were never abused?
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Sinudeity_
mbondo is merely a member of the "black panther communist youth league united front against sensibility". Just ignore his racial hatred, warmongering, propaganda and bull$h17.Report Abuse
DJ-Winner
@cornelius...but some of the things he says are true, isn't? Regardless whether the reciever of the information is educated or not.....Report Abuse
BigPeezy
To be a politician you dnt have to belong to a political party...some people are naive period!!!!Report Abuse
californiaqueen
Juju will soon form his own Political Party and i suggest "Hullabaloo Barbaric Union"Report Abuse
Nyongoyamavenda
MissBhakajujuInfact, does being Bullyied by the Old dictactors mean that Malema is not a politician ? coz being expelled by the ANC is just temporaly, and he remains an ANC supporter..... otherwise he wouldn't be supporting Tokyo, Kgalema, Mbalula, etc...
these old good 4 nothing dictators, are playing Gay politics, they must go f. themselves..... oo Godongwana, Mantashe, Mthembu, must just leave politics.......
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who are the dictators ?its your juju,those guys were elected democratically,surport your factory fault but dont talk nonse**
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@MissBhakajujudoes being expelled by the ANC means you're not a politician ? so what is Malema ? a soccer player ?
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GOOD QUESTION!!
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californiaqueen@MissBhakajuju
does being expelled by the ANC means you're not a politician ? so what is Malema ? a soccer player ?
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GOOD QUESTION!!
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bad question,which party does he belong?he is a former politician
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Decibels
what a useless comrade.....are you telling me you went all the way to America to talk to investors about Malema?? We are sick of these old comrades in the ANC whose cheap souls belong to investors. Who are you to tell people they are finished.....if you want to talk about finished people why don't you talk about your wife??Report Abuse
Sinudeity_
Julius isnt a politician. He's a TENDERPRENEUR and a dirty thief.Report Abuse
S'khaole
What a funny surname: Godongwana. This guy has no brains, he is campaining to save for his soul if Showerman man makes it in Mangaung. In fact it is the desperation tone of reactionary. Instead of addressing the problems and doing damage control, they have diverted their attention to a true leader in Malema. Malema refers to someone who plaughs or till the land- so if you plaugh the field or till the land, you meet weed of different kinds like Godong---- and Showerman which you should deal with roughly because they have thorns. Sa lona ke basadi mo, ge le eme le re balela dipitshi ka corruption mola le di dicorruption champions.Report Abuse
californiaqueen
@Nyongoyamavendadoes being expelled by the ANC means you're not a politician ? so what is Malema ? a soccer player ?
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bad question,which party does he belong?he is a former politician
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I'VE had it ka Mavenda a brainless, what is former politician, what is he now, from which political party? its not the point i'm a politician from California alright I dont belong to any political Party in South Africa??? No! what does it make me? a Venda huh.....
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BlackSeed
So those that do not have SA IDs are not SAcans?I respect Julius Malema
Lofa thati’cover uMalema uyavela – eish, kaak spelling maar is oryt.
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MissBhakajuju
Sinudeity_Julius isnt a politician. He's a TENDERPRENEUR and a dirty thief
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an angry brainwashed, AWB supporter !!!
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manu.menne
Malema's strategies are recently alienating him and the trio and they strengthening JZ. ANCYL is headless.Report Abuse
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MissBhakajujuSinudeity_
Julius isnt a politician. He's a TENDERPRENEUR and a dirty thief
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an angry brainwashed, AWB supporter !!!
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at least one time i can agree with you 100% no amount of insult will undo the truth
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californiaqueen
@Nyongoyamavenda
does being expelled by the ANC means you're not a politician ? so what is Malema ? a soccer player ?
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bad question,which party does he belong?he is a former politician
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I'VE had it ka Mavenda a brainless, what is former politician, what is he now, from which political party? its not the point i'm a politician from California alright I dont belong to any political Party in South Africa??? No! what does it make me? a Venda huh.....
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tjo you are such a fake no wonder you surpport juju
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MissBhakajuju - Better than being a fool that follows a false prophet around.Report Abuse
Nyongoyamavenda
MissBhakajujuSinudeity_
Julius isnt a politician. He's a TENDERPRENEUR and a dirty thief
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an angry brainwashed, AWB supporter !!!
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has he promised you some tenders of he is giving one one
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Letjatji
@all,u dont have to affiliate to any political party to be a politician and so is Mr Sello Malema.There are many people who are polotician but to subscribe to party polotics.example Dr Mamphela Ramphela,Desmond tutu and the famous Jesse Jackson also remember Martin Luther King jnr, was a religious political fellow.The problem here is the poor education that our government is dispensing and now people reason with no fact.Report Abuse
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LA all day everyday....California sunshine, California kush.
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Sinudeity_
Nyongoyamavenda - So you admit julius is a tenderpreneur :PReport Abuse
cornelius
@ DJWinner and mbondoOK, lets look at each allegation :
1. Stole black people's land.
a)That was 2 centuries ago, when colonization was the norm in the world - just like the Zulus also chased other tribes off their land in the Mfecane wars.
b)Does this apply in the Western Cape ?
c) Did the NP government not agree that their should be legal processes for land restitution ?
2. Rap.e women who work in the kitchen.
a) Give one single example if you can - there are none, it is a disgraceful lie.
b) Have no blac.k people been guilty of ra.pe, ever ?
3. Call filt.hy names
a) Some old die-hard AWB types maybe, but this is not a prevalent thing at all
b) The worst word is the " k - word" which means " hea.then". Do bl.ack people never call wh'ite people derogatory names ?
4. Kil.l innocent blac.k children on farm.s across the country.
a) I can think of one incidents, the " Skierlik" incident when a young whi.te boy lost his mind and went on a ramp.age. Please give details of any others, or apologise fo rthis horrend.ous li.e..
b ) Why do you not mention the many cases of white people helping bla.ck children, in NGO's, schools, welfasre projects, etc ?
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5. 99% of blac.k peoples land in the hands of whit.es
a) This is a li.e - ther most land is in the hands of the ( b.lack) government and even farm.s, I think something like 20 % has been transferred ito the land restitution legislation.
6. Farm workers ab.used... ra.ped... ensl.aved.
a) Even one example of this, especially the ra.pe please
I am waiting for a detailed response please.
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Sinudeity_MissBhakajuju - Better than being a fool that follows a false prophet around
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what is false about the following statements:
Mining Companies, exloit their workers.
SA needs a new Leadership.
We 'Blacks' need the economic freedom.
Point out just one, that is false, then we can decide who's the fool, that is brainwashed
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Nyongoyamavenda
Sinudeity_Nyongoyamavenda - So you admit julius is a tenderpreneur :
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i have never seen a leader in julius even when he was srpporting Zuma the writing was on the wall
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MissBhakajujuSinudeity_
MissBhakajuju - Better than being a fool that follows a false prophet around
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what is false about the following statements:
Mining Companies, exloit their workers.
SA needs a new Leadership.
We 'Blacks' need the economic freedom.
Point out just one, that is false, then we can decide who's the fool, that is brainwashed
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he says he is fighting for the poor when he is stealing from the poor,just one of many
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mgambu
Yaane!! re buswa ke dicomedians hiso….”in fact one parliamentarian referred to them as “Empty Suites” and I think that’s the correct referencing she made.but heeyy!!we have got our self to blame. Look, from our president who has disgraced us from all sides, what do you expect from people who are surrounding him.. Damage is already done here from now on we just going down-hill here. Give him his 2nd term to just increase an angle to the current slope for a free-fall going down.Report Abuse
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Nyongoyamavenda - And yet here you are defending the man.Report Abuse
Nyongoyamavenda
mgambuYaane!! re buswa ke dicomedians hiso….”in fact one parliamentarian referred to them as “Empty Suites” and I think that’s the correct referencing she made.but heeyy!!we have got our self to blame. Look, from our president who has disgraced us from all sides, what do you expect from people who are surrounding him.. Damage is already done here from now on we just going down-hill here. Give him his 2nd term to just increase an angle to the current slope for a free-fall going down
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dont be such an apologist man what damage?
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MicaParis
Comrade Godongawana reasoned like a real comrade and nothing more I guess. As for Juju I agree with comrade Enoch, there is no resurrection back into the ANC, that is a honest reality.Report Abuse
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Sinudeity_Nyongoyamavenda - And yet here you are defending the man
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wich man?i have never defended juju
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MissBhakajuju - ANC mining companies exploit their workers. Cyril sitting on the board of Lonmin. Zuma owning the Aurora mine."SA needs a new Leadership."
EVERYONE has been saying this. Even when Julius was running behind Zuma, threatening to k1ll for him. Already then, you were told that the ANC needs new leadership. Then you came up with the "Fight black" campaign, and look where we are now.
"We 'Blacks' need the economic freedom. "
Yeah, and you will NEVER get economic freedom unless you sort out education. 10,000 pupils cant go to school in NW province, because of protests. 3 schools buuurned down. An entire province not having textbooks for a year.
How do you wish to get economic freedom, if you cant read or write? You will forever be a blue collar worker, being exploited by anyone who is willing to pay you a salary for your 'skills'.
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@Nyongoyamavendahe says he is fighting for the poor when he is stealing from the poor,just one of many
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i think you also have a problem with a Black Diamond, wanting 2 shine.... so he's not suppose to drive a car ??
Just a Reminder!!!! Malema was persecuted by the ANC for realising that Zuma was the first class factory fault, together with crew of popeyes....
we all know that fighting 4 the poor is a cliche' in S.A, so rather not go there, as this will expose a number of Surnames....
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@NyongoyamavendaSinudeity_
Nyongoyamavenda - And yet here you are defending the man
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wich man?i have never defended juju
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Sinudeity_MissBhakajuju - ANC mining companies exploit their workers. Cyril sitting on the board of Lonmin. Zuma owning the Aurora mine.
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point of correction JZ doesnt own Aurora
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Then you came up with the "Fight black" campaign, and look where we are now.
why are you lying now its DA that came up with slogan
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How do you wish to get economic freedom, if you cant read or write? You will forever be a blue collar worker, being exploited by anyone who is willing to pay you a salary for your 'skills'.
Cos white capital is sitting on our land,mineral resources and money and are refusing to transform
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californiaqueen@Nyongoyamavenda
Sinudeity_
Nyongoyamavenda - And yet here you are defending the man
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wich man?i have never defended juju
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you have mental diarhea what contradiction you are jumping on the story you havnt dont understand
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californiaqueen
@Nyongoyamavendayou want lunch, you must be hungry come lets go
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Nyongoyamavenda
californiaqueenJuju will soon form his own Political Party and i suggest "Hullabaloo Barbaric Union
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you started very nice what went wrong?
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mgambu
@NyongoyamavendaI’m not apologetic at all...It just sad when you come to think of a type of a nation we are. Today I'm even scared to tell where I come from when I’m abroad to say I'm come from SA. It's really a shame of the types of things we tolerate here at home.
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californiaqueen@Nyongoyamavenda
you want lunch, you must be hungry come lets go
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tjo for free!!!,which lunch the food or...?
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MissBhakajuju
Look @ everyone !!!!!busy attacking & discussing Julius, what has Godongwana done for the people of S.A ????
will attacking Julius, employ people ???
where does the money, meant for business funds go to, coz we black enterpreneurs, never see it ???
All they do is running away from the main concerns, trying 2 get cheap publicity over nothing, shame on you ANC leadership, you should be proud of yourself, for making Julius Malema the main focus.
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mgambu@Nyongoyamavenda
I’m not apologetic at all...It just sad when you come to think of a type of a nation we are. Today I'm even scared to tell where I come from when I’m abroad to say I'm come from SA. It's really a shame of the types of things we tolerate here at home.
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what is it that makes you so shamefull my bra SA is doing very well
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Nyongoyamavenda
MissBhakajujuLook @ everyone !!!!!
busy attacking & discussing Julius, what has Godongwana done for the people of S.A ????
will attacking Julius, employ people ???
where does the money, meant for business funds go to, coz we black enterpreneurs, never see it ???
All they do is running away from the main concerns, trying 2 get cheap publicity over nothing, shame on you ANC leadership, you should be proud of yourself, for making Julius Malema the main focus.
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tel me why do you surpport JUJU?
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californiaqueen
@Nyongoyamavendayou want lunch, you must be hungry come lets go
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tjo for free!!!,which lunch the food or...?
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typical african man, you must be Venda to.....oops forgive me i mean a gettleman to decline an offer from a lady, so lunch can only be food you hear!
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Letjatji
Mr godongwana,zuma and others have a cloud of corruption over their head.The failing education system ,the massacre,unemployment,lack of services is just enough to take out zuma at mangaung.IF he wins at mangaung the citizens if this country should continue to have a denial to vote for DA.Malema is an astute politician very ahead of zuma,He is currently at aurora mine and were is zuma in Botswana and not addressing problems we see at olifantfontein were children are not going to school for fourth month.Is this man clever or we r being ruled by an empty suit with shower on top.
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mgambu
@NyongoyamavendaThanks where you wrong Bro!! All looks well because you looking from within.. look at the bigger picture and the read the signs Bro
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ENOCH must be having HUNG OVER i bat my head on rail wae he wont sae that again (uphulukiwe)Report Abuse
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MissBhakajuju@Nyongoyamavenda
he says he is fighting for the poor when he is stealing from the poor,just one of many
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i think you also have a problem with a Black Diamond, wanting 2 shine.... so he's not suppose to drive a car ??
Just a Reminder!!!! Malema was persecuted by the ANC for realising that Zuma was the first class factory fault, together with crew of popeyes....
we all know that fighting 4 the poor is a cliche' in S.A, so rather not go there, as this will expose a number of Surnames
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Do you have to be corrupt in order to be a shining black diamond ,steal from the public serve,deprive the derseving cos you are political connected and yet claim you are fighting for them wht a foolishness**
Malema was not persucuted but was expelled for thinking that he is bigger than the anc
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Sinudeity_
Nyongoyamavenda - Meanwhile, those mining companies are paying half of their income towards taxes. That money then gets taken by government, and meant to be redistributed. But thats where the problem comes in. The money is going to corrupt politicians and greedy tenderpreneurs.Anyways, its YOU that needs to transform. You need to realise that white businesses are creating employment. You need to realise that black businesses are exploiting their workers just as readily.
You need to realise that the money to be used for upliftment and distribution between the previously disenfranchised, were taken by the connected cadres, Cyril, Tokyo and Motstepes, who became instant billionares, but didnt want to share the money with you.
Blame lies squarly with you and your party my son.
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NyongoyamavendaSinudeity_
MissBhakajuju - ANC mining companies exploit their workers. Cyril sitting on the board of Lonmin. Zuma owning the Aurora mine.
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point of correction JZ doesnt own Aurora
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Then you came up with the "Fight black" campaign, and look where we are now.
why are you lying now its DA that came up with slogan
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How do you wish to get economic freedom, if you cant read or write? You will forever be a blue collar worker, being exploited by anyone who is willing to pay you a salary for your 'skills'.
Cos white capital is sitting on our land,mineral resources and money and are refusing to transform
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You mean white capital is the only thing actually making the money.
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mgambu@Nyongoyamavenda
Thanks where you wrong Bro!! All looks well because you looking from within.. look at the bigger picture and the read the signs Bro
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Pen them down my bro cos foe me SA is doing even better than European countries so i am lost
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Nyongoyamavenda - No were not. In fact, per capita, our GDP is only the 3rd highest country in Africa. As for Europe, they are still doing better than us. 25% unemployment vs 8% unemployment.Report Abuse
Nyongoyamavenda
Sinudeity_Anyways, its YOU that needs to transform. You need to realise that white businesses are creating employment. You need to realise that black businesses are exploiting their workers just as readily.
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thats where you are wrong whites capital has never come on board,no money made through exploiting blacks was ever taken from white capital,it is still in the whites hands as we speak
always running fro the truth
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Sinudeity_
Nyongoyamavenda - "thats where you are wrong whites capital has never come on board,"Come on my son. You are merely spreading your anti-white k2K now. Rather put your money where your mouth is, and give us some examples of these 'companies'.
Meanwhile, I can give you an example of a BLACK CAPITAL company that exploits its workers.
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Nyongoyamavenda
Sinudeity_Nyongoyamavenda - No were not. In fact, per capita, our GDP is only the 3rd highest country in Africa. As for Europe, they are still doing better than us. 25% unemployment vs 8% unemployment
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no we are no1 in Africa, Europe is strugling (Spain and Greece) and they threatning to pull the worl back to reccessin,unemplyment is the product of Aprtheid ,that s why 90% of the unemployed are blacks
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NDA
Whenever there is a problem they will focus on Malema not the problem, He is really shaking them hard.Report Abuse
Nyongoyamavenda
Sinudeity_Nyongoyamavenda - "thats where you are wrong whites capital has never come on board,"
Come on my son. You are merely spreading your anti-white k2K now. Rather put your money where your mouth is, and give us some examples of these 'companies'.
Meanwhile, I can give you an example of a BLACK CAPITAL company that exploits its workers.
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90% of JSE listed companies is the hands of whites
i dont hate whites i am just telling the truth
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Commentor
Why do people still bring up Malema.I thought that he has gone back to school to get a proper education.Report Abuse
Nyongoyamavenda
The-RothschildsNyongoyamavenda
You mean white capital is the only thing actually making the money
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white capital took everything from black man i mean every thing
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californiaqueen@Nyongoyamavenda
you want lunch, you must be hungry come lets go
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tjo for free!!!,which lunch the food or...?
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typical african man, you must be Venda to.....oops forgive me i mean a gettleman to decline an offer from a lady, so lunch can only be food you hear!
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one lady aproach me for a free lunch when i thought about food she taleked about blow job,so dont assume ask
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Sinudeity_
Nyongoyamavenda - "90% of JSE listed companies is the hands of whites"Eh, and where is your proof my son?
"no we are no1 in Africa, Europe is strugling (Spain and Greece) and they threatning to pull the worl back to reccessin,unemplyment is the product of Aprtheid"
No, we are not Nr 1 in Africa:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_per_capita
Spain and Greece are small economies. The EU will sooner kick spain/greece out of the EU, then allow them to drag the rest of the continent down with them. The rest of Europe is showing a HIGHER predicted GDP grwoth than South Africa.
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cornelius
@ NyongoyamavendaYou must please report our newspapers to the ombudsman, because according to you all these business news stories we read about on a weekly basis about BEE deals must be lies. It must also be lie that Sexwale want to sell his ABSA stake, because according to you he never got one .
I think you must maybe refer us to a large corporation that has been started up by bl.ack people themselves, or is it the idea that b'ac.ks must only take, not do anything themselves. You have heard how the Afrik,aners started Sanlam, Volkskas, etc, to escape from the economic pressure they were under from the British ?
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Sinudeity_
Nyongoyamavenda - "white capital took everything from black man i mean every thing"Eh, meanwhile, the only example we have of BLACK CAPITAL taking everything from the black man is Aurora.
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californiaqueen@Nyongoyamavenda
why are you so tribalistic,you sad that apartheid is gone ne,
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MicaParis
@MissBhakajujuLook @ everyone !!!!!
busy attacking & discussing Julius, what has Godongwana done for the people of S.A ????
will attacking Julius, employ people ???
where does the money, meant for business funds go to, coz we black enterpreneurs, never see it ???
All they do is running away from the main concerns, trying 2 get cheap publicity over nothing, shame on you ANC leadership, you should be proud of yourself, for making Julius Malema the main focus.
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I respect your freedom of expression but honestly does Julius need any introduction on moral and human compass for any convenient and compassionate reasoning!?
If I may ask, for ''who and what for'' does really Juju doing that for!?
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Nyongoyamavenda
cornelius@ Nyongoyamavenda
You must please report our newspapers to the ombudsman, because according to you all these business news stories we read about on a weekly basis about BEE deals must be lies. It must also be lie that Sexwale want to sell his ABSA stake, because according to you he never got one .
I think you must maybe refer us to a large corporation that has been started up by bl.ack people themselves, or is it the idea that b'ac.ks must only take, not do anything themselves. You have heard how the Afrik,aners started Sanlam, Volkskas, etc, to escape from the economic pressure they were under from the British
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sowetan has chowed up my response
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Cabral67
All those who have doubts that Julius is a politician go and get some change from your high school history teachers. Politicians do not have to belong to a particular party . Have you ever heard of independent candidates - these people do not belong to a party but they are still politicians. My friends that is high school history not even political science 101. Your hate for the man must cloud you from stating the facts. You will know that the very ANC was not a political party until it registered as one according to the IEC act and voted into the National Assembly in 1994 but uTat' OR was politician as well was Cde Chris HaniReport Abuse
Flemza
I truely agree with this Enoch Godongwana guy , Malema is finished its over Malema if I were you , you would take my advise , just join CopeReport Abuse
keuza24h
Enoch, go brush your teeth first. Your jelous because when you talk you don't even shake the oppositions like Malema do.Report Abuse
Sinudeity_
keuza24h - Yeah, when julius talks, the opposition shakes...With laughter.
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Patsekg
Yes, i agree with Enoch Godongwana 100%, Malema is finished and Klaar. His biggest mistake is to think that everyone who is against Zuma is therefore his friend. He fails to understand that there are those who want Motlanthe to replace Zuma but not for the same reasons as him. Mangaung is going to shock a lot of people. I know that most of Malema's supporters think Zuma's loss means Malema's automatic reinstatement, and i can promise you they will be shocked. Zuma can go on to lose but Malema must forget about coming back. My point is driven by the fact that Zuma has his own supporters in the ANC, the same supporters who don't want to see Malema comming back, again Motlanthe has his own supporters who are made up of those who want him to replace Zuma but do not want Malema to come back, together with those who want to see Malema comming back. Remember that Malema's reinstatement will be decided by deligates, not the new leadership that is going to be elected there. If you look, you will realise that the numbers that support Zuma together with the numbers that want Motlanthe but don't want Malema, will murge and that is going to pose a serious problem for Malema's attempts to come back. That is why i am so convinced that Malema's future in politics is finished because it is not going to be decided by Zuma's loss. It's a pity that those who love Malema so much ignore this reality and by the time it heats on them, they will be shocked. So far it's only some members of the ANCYL who are making noise about Malema's return to the ANC, supported by Winnie Mandela, and proberbly Fikile Mbalula who is believed to be his close friend, however, other leaders are non commital and that should serve as a warning to Malema that he is counting his chickens before the eggs are hatched.Report Abuse
WarrenG
It's NOT Jacobs fault these guys got shot. Maybe Police commissioner??? But the miners arrived at the protest armed and ready to fight, so they must be prepared to die. They came with guns, machetes, spears and knobkerries. They didn't want to protest peacefully thats for sure!!!As for Malema...he keeps rearing his ugly fat little jelly baby face. Time he gets taken care of..wink wink nudge nudge ;-) know what I mean...bullet for the jelly baby...
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ManoftheSoil
Sinudeity_ You are the most stupid and brainless blogger, how can you compare RSA to Europe as a whole, did they have centuries of racist colonialist and apartheid regime, you are such a liar boikie, in general.Report Abuse
SISJOY
@LUNGUI agree, miners are not educated so they think Malema is God with Doctorate from University of Stellenbosch. It is a pity struu. If they won't be carefull they are going to loose their jobs and he wont do anything to confront Lonmin management. He is just lieing to them that there are lawyers who are intending to help them, he just want them to belive him. who can work for nothing . who is going to pay that lawyers. He was dead now the tragedy awoke him up. sies.
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ManoftheSoil
cornelius - I think the ANC and govt have been too nice on your likes, hence you talk like this with racist tendencies,its time to go hard so they they all go back home, whereever they came from...Europe or Pacific Ocean couldnt care...Report Abuse
Sinudeity_
ManoftheSoil - "how can you compare RSA to Europe as a whole"Why dont you ask Nyongoyamavenda why he compared RSA to Europe? Was just putting his facts straight.
"did they have centuries of racist colonialist and apartheid regime, you are such a liar boikie, in general."
LOL, being called a liar by ignorant morons is not something new :P No, but they did have countless wars, including 2 world wars. The black plague, the industrial revolution etc.
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Letjatji
@Manofthesoil@sunideity
U r right is unfair to compare eroupe with the RSA bcos they bare many countries.The indications are that europe will be stagnant economically but Germany and France might still realize a high GDP.
Reality today in economic world is that Brics countries will grow at a high pace with china overtaking USA as an economic power.unfortunately south africa will grow less but it will benefit a lot as a gateway to africa with companies like massmart making RSA a head office of africa.
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Sinudeity_
Letjatji - Thats not a reality dude. Ch1na's economic growth is busy slowing down. They will probably enter their own recession one of these days.The US economy is still DOUBLE the size of the Ch1nese economy.
But one important thing to notice, is that the US and Ch1na are VERY reliant on one another. Without the US, Ch1na would be nothing economically. And without Ch1na, US would also be nowhere economically.
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Letjatji
Manofthesoil sinudeity is right.There was divisions in europe until the romans took over.There was the spartans barbarians and many groupings that ruled europe over time.Some europeans were enslaved by their own.There was anarchy ,hunger and wars.Apartheid was not based on race but tribes were people will be of lower class if they belong to certain tribe and will only do jobs which are of low class.The same system occurs in india today but without violence.There is enough evidence that indicate that it also happened in africa amongst africans themselves and among arab africans and africans.There is a tribe called Nubians in the Africa mahgreb,last time i heard of them they were in mali few weeks ago destroying tmbactuh,their history well document slavery in africa but most popular is in the bible egyptians and israelites.We can not cry forever bcos of apartheid we should go on as a country weather black or white.The europeans became powerful in the years called the Renaissance which simply mean the birth of science during the times of Galileo gallillei.Because people were killing each other the gallean people discovered gunpowder and make guns and other civilization.Africans and arabs never discovered powder and that is why we were defeated and taken forgranted by europeans.My point is all happened and cant be erased we should go on to improve our lives than crying apartheid like zuma blaming it for nondelevry of books.
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Bebesocs
Godongwana sit down, you are a liar a corrupt confused desperate thief. Remember those mnies that went missing, we are not stupid to listen to you.Go and do mouthcare.
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Letjatji
@sinudeityI dont agree,predict says 6 t0 10 years china will b a superpower.The american economy is currently 30 percent richer than china.The fact is since 1990 china economy was growing at 12%.Last year it grew by 9.5% and just this quarte it grew buy 7.9%.The american economy was growing at 7% since 1990 and 2010 recessed until now when u get quarters differing.it can actually grew by 3 % this year
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Sinudeity_
Letjatji - Perhaps, but China's GDP growth is slowing now. They could have overtaken the US if they proceeded along their initial strong GDP growth. US economy will recover. On top of that, China has been fixing its currency outside of external influence to favour its importing and exporting game. This is not sustainable.Report Abuse
Sinudeity_
The longer-term trend shows that the United States grew by the equivalent of the entire Ch1nese economy in the past decade. Ch1na's population has a per capita GDP—the average Ch1nese citizen's share of the country's overall economy—of about $4,300 (94th globally) compared to $47,100 for the average American.Report Abuse
somaartakeit
@BebesocsGodongwana sit down, you are a liar a corrupt confused desperate thief. Remember those mnies that went missing, we are not stupid to listen to you.
Go and do mouthcare.
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especially given that he arrogantly said he didn't struggle to be poor and helped himself out of the pensions of the workers this anc fat cat, so echo your calls for him to sit the EF down already!
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Nyongoyamavenda
SomaartakeitYuo are such a liar, the words we didnt strugle to be poor came from Smuts Ngonyama
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sphesihlemkhize
i can see the last kicks of a dying horse dying a painful death jujuReport Abuse
hecticstuff
Oh Modimo wa kgotso!!! People like Gondongwana should be hauled before the disciplinary committee of the ANC for the pronouncements on succession matters long before October, just to show consistency and impartiality. What is good for the goose must be good for the others. I am totally worried about these "tendencies" as shown by the "leadership" of the ANC. Why are they quiet when such pronouncements are made in favour of the incumbent "leader", and make of noise when said about the others.Goatee, suspend Gondongwana and his ilk!!!!!!!!!!!
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Luvtoy
@Moffdat...made of stainless steel
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Krokodile
I wonder if most people here are members of the ANC, and they are so convienced that Mangaung wil be the downfall of JZ. Only members of the ANC who are in good standing can only determine that.Report Abuse
Pitso.MCCMA.SAFA
Whoever convincing himself that Malema is finished,HE IS THE ONE FUNISHED.YOU CANNOT FINISH JUJU,BUT ANYWAY IS POSSIBLE TO FINISH ZUMAReport Abuse
Mfuraz
South Africans are ridiculous.Citizens are directionless.We always fail to see things as they are(blame game).How can Zuma be directly blamed for something that has to do with the SAPS.Malema is hypocrite and some people cannot see through him(the same guy who does whatever he wants(abusing his power),who backed Zuma not so long ago and was in the ANC).Bare in mind that he is also being investigated,but people will see him as a saint but not as the opportunist he really is(snake).This "anyone but Zuma" thing is ridiculous and proves that there is no direction.How can you just choose "anyone"
That "anyone" could be
*exactly like Zuma.
*even worse than Zuma.
*a Malema Puppet,which Zuma didn't want to be.
*another raw deal.
I smell sabotage,even blind eyes can see it.why all this caos just before Mangaung.
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skwamasamabele
Msholozi will rule, Malema, in the the dustbin of dinasaur history, like SinudeityReport Abuse
tsustarpoor
Workers are in prison! others are dying of hanger. Families have sleepless nights as they love ones have been locked up. 44 poeple are dead. Worker are still going on strike! What is the gorvenment doing about all this contraventions. haa..haaa.haaa.....inadequate and improper leadership. Lack of skill. They Marikana maccar won`t affective election? They just fulling themself. And MALEMA IS NOT FINISH. JUST WAIT AND SEE!!!!!!!!Report Abuse
Motho-Makhetha
What is it with banks asking disgraced thieves of opinions. Enoch should be going to jail not commenting on issues! common thief!Report Abuse
Mctoff
mg.co.za/tag/enoch-godongwana24 Aug 2012 08:09 - Glynnis Underhill: Enoch Godongwana and his wife Thandiwe are party to the loss of millions in workers' pension fund money.
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MagakalaaMmatlopo
Godongwana, did u and ur wife return the money u have taken from the workers? if no shut your mouty bloody moron.Report Abuse
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