Sat May 25 19:53:57 SAST 2013

Government worried about escalating abortions

Aug 21, 2012 | Sapa | 91 comments

"It's clear that people are not using contraceptives like condoms, so they are also exposing themselves to serious illnesses like Aids"

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Sat May 25 19:53:57 SAST 2013 ::
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Aug 21, 2012

eKapa-

sum months ago there was an Article that confirmed how much condoms did we used and the stores r runing out of stock......

n nou wat se die storie?

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Aug 21, 2012

MommaC

Could someone put this into perspective?

What are the r@pe statistics and do they correlate with the abortion statistics?
Are the clinics in the area giving out birth control or are they treating young women like trash if they ask for birth control?
What is the ratio of married women to single women who are having abortions?
What is the economic demographic and social pressures of the women getting abortions?

Cheryllyn Dudley can look down her suprecillious nose all she likes. That isn't going to change the situation. Find out WHY.
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Aug 21, 2012

Hosh6

Some South African women are very brave...they fear pregnancy more than STIs.
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Aug 21, 2012

Hosh6

MommaC
Married women and teenage girls are the main culprits.
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Aug 21, 2012

sh!tFaceSamsung

most people engage in sexual-intercourse pretending as if they don't know te consequenses afte that
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Aug 21, 2012

Pontshopontsho

Schools pupils don't use toys to play they choose Penis , what else can be espected if thats the case. theres education about condoms every where even primary schools but they choose to ignore the fact that they might be sick beside being pregnant.
we will continue to have high rates of abortion as long as we have places like Marie Stops and most of Illegal places that perform Abortion at sunnyside
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Aug 21, 2012

maneater

let us call it by its name: its 77,771 killings? forget the week of mourning we should have a decade of mourning!!!
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Aug 21, 2012

MommaC

Hosh6

I don't know. That is the problem. We keep looking at the symptoms individually and not as part of the whole. That means that the disease is never cured and all we keep doing is giving a Panado for the headache instead of seeing the dirty great axe sticking out of the skull
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Aug 21, 2012

imd

Hosh6
Some South African women are very brave...they fear pregnancy more than STIs.
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this is an understatement........yho the guts woman have aowa!!!!
unbelivably stup!d
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Aug 21, 2012

Flemza

Thats why I went for vaspectomy , so you can`t point a finger at me , when it come to abotions I`m clean , how can I make a young beautifull lady pregnant , even though I would like to I can`t. On sundays after church when I take my boys to the Mall I `m suprised to see all these young woman pregnant walking on there own , looking disorrientent , no wonder the abotions
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Aug 21, 2012

Hosh6

MommaC
Hosh6

I don't know. That is the problem. We keep looking at the symptoms individually and not as part of the whole. That means that the disease is never cured and all we keep doing is giving a Panado for the headache instead of seeing the dirty great axe sticking out of the skull
********************************************************Fully agree with you MommaC you are on point...If they can tackle the issues you raised above they'll get somewhere and hopefully get to the root cause of the problem.
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Aug 21, 2012

Flemza

@maneater
let us call it by its name: its 77,771 killings? forget the week of mourning we should have a decade of mourning!!!
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Good said broer , we should be flying all flags for half mast for the whole decade , this is murder at its worst degree , we should be moruning for the even more than a decade 77 7771 deaths and no one is doing something about it I can`t believe this, I hope my boys are not part of the stats otherwise its all vaspectomy
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Aug 21, 2012

MinkelMoes

Aborting is better than raising a child in poverty. If I have five (5) children in a family, and my wife falls pregnant how would I raise "MY LAAT LAMMETJIE" when my employer refuses to increase my salary. The best remedy to release stress is nothing else but &ex. Forget about the number of children, but consider that as my talent!!!
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Aug 21, 2012

Sinudeity_

Rather abortions than grants.
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Aug 21, 2012

RobinH

With a president as such a wonderful role model for celibacy, are we actually surprised that people are careless sexually?
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Aug 21, 2012

RobinH

Sin. I am 100% with you on that.
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Aug 21, 2012

Galfrend

Some comments make me go tjo!!! hai true people have become col.d hearted! no respect for human life whatsoever. why condone abortion? awareness on use of contraceptives and the dangers of unprotected sex must be increased.Social development and relevant organisations must urgently look into the matter starting with teenagers! because this is getting out of hand!

to all who condone abortion,your parents should have aborted you! and you men,if you have kids and you are pro abortion,you should have aborted your own!! easier for some men to suggest abortion because they are not the ones to live with the guilt of killling an innocent soul for the rest of their lives! perves!
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Aug 21, 2012

Sinudeity_

Galfrend - My parents wanted to have me. I wasnt conceived because my mom and dad were 14 years old and wanted to have a good time without earning any income.

If people know about abortions, then SURELY they should know about condoms right?
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Aug 21, 2012

MommaC

Galfrend

That is because you are young and never saw what the world was like before abortion became legal.
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Aug 21, 2012

Sinudeity_

Galfrend - You shouldnt be shouting at us, you should be shouting at people who have s3x without protection and then have abortions.
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Aug 21, 2012

Galfrend

MommaC - what do you mean? are you going to tell me about back door abortions that used to happen and many gals died coz of them? well they are still happening. but lets not talk about abortion as if we are talking about eating. We are talking about loss of innocent lives!

Sin - I am against those who have unprotected sex in this day and age,hence my comment about awarenes on contraceptives being increased. Abortion is just a temporary solution Sin,looking at it from a women's perspective.

Im against abortion,only God has a right of taking the life of another "human being".The only time when abortion should be accepted is when a woman is rap.ed. but that too is debatable.
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Aug 21, 2012

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

This arbotion is evilness of women,hee basadi ke meleko bana le baradi ba bona hm!.
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Aug 21, 2012

MommaC

Galfrend

How against abortion are you?
If a father rapes his daughter and she fall pregnant with a child would you consider that the daughter should be forced to raise that child?
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Aug 21, 2012

RobinH

Galfrend: With respect, the right for women to choose to have abortions is an aspect of libertaed thinking I have advocated for years. This does NOT mean I advocate promiscuity in the least, but as we all know, we live in a harshly male dominated society in which a woman very often does not have a choice with regard to sexual activity. And I think it is also common enough to suggest that a VAST number of men are quite happy to have sexual relationships with girls (often insisting on "skin to skin") until they fall pregnant, whereupon they disappear into the mists. It is therefore not only reasonable, but I would suggest preferable) for women to be allowed to choose abortion if they wish. Fortunately not all our people live with their heads in buckets, and I hope the right to choice will remain entrenched.
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Aug 21, 2012

MSG_S

MommaC. Single young and uneducated are abboting more than married females. For a married woman to abbort is very remotely motivated.
Demographicaly look no where but townships. Mostly and very annoying is a matter of fact not those who are exposed to poverty.
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Aug 21, 2012

Galfrend

Mommac - read my comment above "The only time when abortion should be accepted is when a woman is rap.ed."


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Aug 21, 2012

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe

@Sinudeity_

Rather abortions than grants.
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That's evil talk seun u want DA to buy all your brothers farms/land with money that was supposed to feed our children.

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Aug 21, 2012

MommaC

MSG_S

There is a big correlation between education and pregnancy. The Indian model showed it brilliantly.

It would, however, be very interesting to see the facts on paper so we can see if it really is an education issue or if it is a social issue. Poverty cannot really be used as an excuse as we have free birth control clinics so the question would have to be why they are not being used.

As I say, we keep looking at only half the picture which is making it very difficult to come up with any ideas on how to fix the problem
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Aug 21, 2012

MommaC

Galfrend

So you agree with abortion.
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Aug 21, 2012

Sinudeity_

KatakataEmaotoAditshepe - "That's evil talk seun u want DA to buy all your brothers farms/land with money that was supposed to feed our children."


Yeah actually. I want the DA to stop spending money on the people that protest because they dont get enough free $h17. Anyways, its cool, because you can always take from the R500,000,000 that Zuma spends to feed your children.

Or, you can just tell your children to stop f***ing around, or use condoms. Easy enough.
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Aug 21, 2012

eKapa-

Galfrend- hello

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Aug 21, 2012

swona

we have enough AIDS orphans!
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Aug 21, 2012

Tasto

What a wast3e of editorial space, who does not know Nelson Mandela abolished death-penalty &legalised aborthion?

Chicken have come home to roost!!
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Aug 21, 2012

RobinH

Galfrend: "only God has a right of taking the life of another "human being". Hmm. That presupposes the existence and interest of this god-figure. Something not everyone agres with.
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Aug 21, 2012

tsholo-pro

This Justice system sucks period. One minute they legalise abortion, next minutes u become cry babies u dont want to face the music. This shortcoming is a result of braionless decisionby our justice system.
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Aug 21, 2012

tsholo-pro

MommaC
"Are the clinics in the area giving out birth control or are they treating young women like trash if they ask for birth control"
Stop thinking like a horse, we must not only focus on "pregnacny" BUT also sexual diseases like STI, STD & the monster HIV-AIDS. So u are advocating that they be given birth control pills so they have unprotected SEX.

Pontshopontsho
"Schools pupils don't use toys to play they choose Penis , what else can be espected if thats the case"
Every action has a consequences, which result in decisions that are bad or productive.
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Aug 21, 2012

RobinH

Tsholo: You seem to miss a key issue here. This has nothing to do with the justice system. What we have here is simply a bunch of politicians making hot air. People trying to score political points with ill-considered statitical samples coupled with their own particular skewed ideologies. Above are not even decisions, just people talking to pretend they earn their ridiculously high salaries.

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Aug 21, 2012

Galfrend

RobinH
Galfrend: "only God has a right of taking the life of another "human being". Hmm. That presupposes the existence and interest of this god-figure. Something not everyone agres with.
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Im commenting based on what I believe in. I believe in God,so I stand by it. If you dont believe in Him,thats okay. your choice.

Mommac - have u nt you been reading my comments? Im against abortion.

ekapa - elo my love..
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Aug 21, 2012

eKapa-

Galfrend

elo 2 u 2
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Aug 21, 2012

MommaC

Galfrend

No. You are pro abortion.
It is like being pregnant, you can't be just a little bit. You are either all in or not in at all.
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Aug 21, 2012

RobinH

Galfrend. I accept your belief and don't challenge it, BUT I bellieve it wrong to put that as a self-evident truth. Besides, I don't remember seeing a single reference to abortion in the scriptures I studied as a kid, and the assertion that it is "taking a life" is open to interpretation and dogma. At what point is the foetus a viable life? These are shifting sands, Madam, so it is not reasonable to make categorical statements.
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Aug 21, 2012

Lalaland

Why have an abortion, if our president can have 20 + kids and have them all supported on the state, why not you, go out and multiply I say, what's good for the goose is good for the gander, it's time to put his mouth where ""our"" money is .... for now till it has run out. Double Standards bar none.
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Aug 21, 2012

Hosh6

eKapa-
Didn't you hear...you been red-carded tata

RobinH
Easy on Galfrend take a chill pill dude
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Aug 21, 2012

Galfrend

MommaC - what do you mean? are you going to tell me about back door abortions that used to happen and many gals died coz of them? well they are still happening. but lets not talk about abortion as if we are talking about eating. We are talking about loss of innocent lives!

Sin - I am against those who have unprotected sex in this day and age,hence my comment about awarenes on contraceptives being increased. Abortion is just a temporary solution Sin,looking at it from a women's perspective.

Im against abortion,only God has a right of taking the life of another "human being".The only time when abortion should be accepted is when a woman is rap.ed. but that too is debatable.
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Aug 21, 2012

tumzangwana

"It looks like we’re moving in a direction where human life is being increasingly disregarded and treated with contempt. People are becoming so cold-hearted."
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people are not necoming cold hearted, they have s3x too much thats whats causing the high number of "unplanned" pregnancies. you dont want a baby then dont do anything that might increase the chance of you falling pregnant. its as simple as that.

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Aug 21, 2012

MommaC

Galfrend

Repeating yourself doesn't change the fact that you are PRO abortion.

If 'god' made the decision to put a life in your womb then it is not your right - under ANY circumstances, including r@pe - to remove it. If, however, the egg is fertilized in the less biblical method of coitus, then how do you decide what is and is not acceptable to termination?

It is all or nothing - there is no fence to sit on
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Aug 21, 2012

Galfrend

Robin - Sir,Justify it in whatever manner you want to,but I still stand by what I said earlier. Doesnt matter at what stage the foetus becomes a viable life. To me the fact that the foetus will develop into a human being someday is strong enough for me to come to a conclusion that abortion is killing..thats just me.

Mommac - That is why in my earlier post I mentioned that is it debatable in cases where someone is raped and abortion has to be considered. Im fully against abortion,and in rape cases there are some options the victim can consider like adoption, but thats debatable still...its better than killing.......
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Aug 21, 2012

RobinH

WASSUP MODERATOR. Even the most moderate comment disappears. Not a nasty word in sight, but no///// Pathetic!
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Aug 21, 2012

Galfrend

MommaC - NO no I posted that again by mistake.

The good thing MommaC is that as individuals we have the right to choose what works for us individually. If you are pro abortion,then good for you. Im not. accept it and life goes on...
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Aug 21, 2012

Galfrend

Hebana Sowetan what happened to my comment?
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Aug 21, 2012

RobinH

Galfrend - That is your opinion and you have every right to it. We will have to agree to differ, I'm afraid.
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Aug 21, 2012

MommaC

Galfrend

But you ARE pro abortion If you agree that ANY pregnancy can be terminated, then you are pro-abortion. The fact that you have ''terms and conditions' doesn't make any difference.

My problem is not with your belief or your choice. My problem is with your stance whereby your choice should over ride the choices of others. Saying that people should have been aborted because they hold different beliefs to yours was a bit OTT. Suggesting that anyone who differs from you should never have been born isn't terribly 'christian' of you either.
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Aug 21, 2012

Galfrend

RobinH - True.
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Aug 21, 2012

m'zaco'

Galfrend
RobinH - True.
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Dumerang....why ignore me?
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Aug 21, 2012

RobinH

MommaC; You put that well. Thanks.
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Aug 21, 2012

Galfrend

MommaC - That was an emotional comment from me and im not going to apologise for it as I saw it fit to say it at that particular time. Whoever has a problem with it must just be strong.Not that I need to explain myself to you or anyone else here but I was coming from a point where people justify abortion by saying " better abortion than grant"..like WTH? I fully agree with the article when it says people have become so co.ld hearted. To compare human life to grant money..thats very low and inhumane..!!!! huma.n life dont matter anymore...
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Aug 21, 2012

Galfrend

Mzaco - hello my dear. when did I ignore you?
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Aug 21, 2012

Galfrend

eKapa - where are you now?
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Aug 21, 2012

MommaC

Galfrend

No problem sweetie,
I will accept the fact that you think I should have had my life ended in a bucket and you can accept the fact that by wishing that, you are pro-abortion :)
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Aug 21, 2012

eKapa-

Galfrend

undilahlile wena klk
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Aug 21, 2012

Galfrend

ekapa - never ndikulahle wena sthandwa sam. Woz' uthath' ukiss....mwaaah :)
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Aug 21, 2012

eKapa-

Galfrend

sondeza lo mlomo ndiphuze
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Aug 21, 2012

SWEETYK

@ ALL LOVIES

GOOD DAY
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Aug 21, 2012

Bumboklaat

@SWEETYK
@ ALL LOVIES

GOOD DAY
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Hello Sweetcake
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Aug 21, 2012

Hosh6

Galfrend
ekapa - never ndikulahle wena sthandwa sam. Woz' uthath' ukiss....mwaaah :)
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Can I come get a kiss as well?
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Aug 21, 2012

eKapa-

ekapa can u plz ignore this.
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SWEETYK

Bumboklaat
@SWEETYK
@ ALL LOVIES

GOOD DAY
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Hello my love.
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Aug 21, 2012

eKapa-

Galfrend - baby im waitng nje
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Aug 21, 2012

Galfrend

eKapa - my love why abantu bethanda ukugxambukela endabeni zethu?

Sweety - hala dear how are you?

H6 - Yini vele ngawe?
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Aug 21, 2012

Hosh6

Galfrend
What do you mean yini ngame?

Bumboklaat
Ja wena san ho jwang moshanyana wa bopedi?
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Aug 21, 2012

Galfrend

H6 - a kere I told you im taken. You dont give up do you?
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Aug 21, 2012

eKapa-

Galfrend

abantu banomona,
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Aug 21, 2012

Hosh6

Galfrend
Marilyn vos Savant once said that being defeated is often a temporary condition...Giving up is what makes it permanent...so I subscribe to that notion if you know what I mean.

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Aug 21, 2012

Galfrend

H6 - LOL go date Marilyn vos Savant...kikiki whats your original username dude..

eKapa - bazoba strong . Wont be here for the rest of the week my dear,lets chat here galfrendoo@gmail.com
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Aug 21, 2012

SWEETYK

Galfrend
eKapa - my love why abantu bethanda ukugxambukela endabeni zethu?

Sweety - hala dear how are you?

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Hi lovies, I'm fine thanx for asking lala.
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Aug 21, 2012

Hosh6

Galfrend
Hosh6 is my username...I'm done for the day it's always a pleasure talking to you hey *blushes* enjoy rest of your week

eKapa
You got the mail address so stop w*hining and don't ever use this forum like it's mxit.
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Aug 21, 2012

Galfrend

H6 - LOL thanx but why blush

eKapa - uyabo? u take long to respond...
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Aug 21, 2012

eKapa-

Galfrend

yekela lomuntu, i want to see if he can crack ma password in yr heart..

*wink*

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Aug 21, 2012

Galfrend

eKapa - huh? password? put it in simpler terms dude....
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Aug 21, 2012

eKapa-

Galfrend- iv put ma password so that ubhekemina ngedwa..*warm hug*

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Aug 21, 2012

Galfrend

eKapa - Oh ...u are so sweet,im gonna miss you :)
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Aug 21, 2012

eKapa-

Galfrend- il miss u to babes ..bye-bye

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Aug 21, 2012

Galfrend

eKapa - byeee im here till 6 yaz
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Aug 21, 2012

eKapa-

eKapa, ok let chat till 5...

r u still here?
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Aug 21, 2012

eKapa-

Galfrend

r u still here?

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Aug 21, 2012

Galfrend

yah im here my dear
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Aug 21, 2012

Galfrend

eish change of plans,im leaving now. tac care byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee chat next week :)
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Aug 21, 2012

eKapa-

Galfrend

have you ever playd Golf?
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Aug 22, 2012

RobinH

Dear dept. I suggest we ask our great leader to keep it zipped before we say too much about people and unprotected sex.
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Aug 29, 2012

msDEEREE

1st people are bored, tere r no jobs and people spend lot of time doin nothin. 2nd, te level of education in high schools is becomin un reasonable, teachers enjoy teaching joung ppl abt sex dan wat ey ought to be teachin.3rd, rape cases r increasin and if noting can b done a lot more number wil add.4th,men become irrisponsible after getin married.
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Aug 30, 2012

Zikky

in all honesty theres nothing more Govt can do there are free condoms and clincs so that girls can prevent i dont know what they want there are three different types of injections to choose from so i dont know theres really no excuse !!!!
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